7 O'Clock / WATCHERS - THREAD FULL

[floral zinc]

theres a step on US that was bugged and somehow skipped them ahead. so the puzzle wont work even if they "solve" it as there a/some steps missing

[abstract axle]

yes

[pine heron]

Someone elses notes will likely not help youp

[abstract axle]

yes

ohhh

[limber ginkgo]

Yeah, I think the puzzles are different per person

[abstract axle]

so its different for whoever

damn

wasted effort v.v

[dusk cosmos]

Whos completed the owl statue puzzle?

[limber ginkgo]

I was putting mine together when you sent that and noticed it was different

[wanton relic]

NA has skipped hidden quests due the skip so soon or later they will stucked.

[wraith urchin]

i did but nothing past that it just starts glowing

[limber ginkgo]

My statue was glowing already when I started the puzzle

[floral zinc]

you're not even supposed to be up to the puzzle yet bro

[lyric hill]

sooo we need more color to loot

[wanton relic]

maybe, maybe not

[wraith urchin]

its more like a greenish fel kinda glow, not the light that was before

[limber ginkgo]

Oh okay

[haughty pond]

it's to de escalate the situation. that's a way to handle situations. 😄 you saw how it deescalate quickly

[vivid smelt]

those red ghosts are nothing right?

[limber ginkgo]

I tell you this puzzle is hard as shit though lol

[vivid smelt]

I found 7 ghosts

but thats it

[main plover]

well I guess I start the painstaking process of statue correlation

[dusk cosmos]

Anyone else see the moonblade inside the watchers?

[pine heron]

yes, with just the light no goggles. Likely spawned in the same time the mistaken owl went lootable.

[leaden crest]

i dont loot sentry :S eu server

[vast meteor]

There's another Moonblade behind a door immediately after Tirathon too. However, I'm not sure if it's always been there, I've never looked behind the door before :P.

[pine heron]

Good spot

[hollow forge]

should be new i think

[novel cargo]

I have a bit of advice. You've probably heard me talk about this before, but the first time I was ever able to solve the puzzle, I used the methodology that I was playing a game I played as a kid.
I never made correlations charts as a kid, but I beat that game many times and it had a challenge mode with a harder layout than this.
Try looking at it with a loose mind. It's like a rubix cube.
After about 20 minutes your mind will start to make the connections and it falls into place.
I want you to know one thing too. This is an algorithm ok. What we are doing here is the same exact principal as solving a Rubix cube. There is no point where this becomes unsolvable or "stuck" you will always be able to return to the state you started. That's just how math is.

[main plover]

I'm too autistic for that

[novel cargo]

Well shit 🤣

[hollow forge]

I also noticed if you click too quickly, you can double-activate the statue... immediately resetting what you just did

which seems like a bug to me

[fringe merlin]

wtf

[novel cargo]

The game was called "Lights-Out". It was a handheld game with lights that you turn off by tapping them and then several others turn on. The goal is to clear the lights out.
There was a game mode that was super hard that didn't really have a name, but I like to nickname things so little Tellz called it wildfire mode.
The "wildfire version" of lights-out operates almost exactly like how the difficult puzzle worked. That's how I was able to solve it. I'll link the game

[vast meteor]

Here's the Moonblade I mentioned. The difference with this one is it doesn't have a tooltip, making me question whether it's always been here. I know everythings bugged, but might be worth remembering (Assuming this isn't already known.)

[elder scroll]

i placed my owl statue infront of the 2nd replica on the octogon and got a magnifing glasss but the statue disapeared

[fringe merlin]

damn, an hour offline and what did i lost
ppl got the statue!!!!

[novel cargo]

This is the game 🤣 damn... my age is gonna show here hahaha

[novel cargo]

False alarm. We got our ankles broken by the most legendary juke of all wow history

[main plover]

this was a game of logic gates, and or xand xor nand nor c not c

[wanton relic]

how many owls do we have inside catacombs

[fringe merlin]

just read the staff post, omg 😂

[jagged ferry]

so I have to catch up here.

do we have pins for the new progress?

[wanton relic]

ok looks like we have 2 replica statues inside catacombs and we may missing 2 colors in the statue.

[sleek veldt]

i place the owl and orb, now what?

[hollow forge]

Looking at it now, I feel like I had this game? Like I seem to remember those buttons? They were like rubbery, yeah? lol

[novel cargo]

Yes and they felt amazing 😍 idk it was but I loved pressing em

[jagged ferry]

so is the statue from VoTW in fact something that we are needing, is it a bug that we should not have access too currently, or just ignoring for now?

[hollow forge]

Yes

[novel cargo]

Yo i dug something up that might help a bit for those who want to click while the puzzle is not there.
For our research @pulsar obsidian whipped up a program that lets you test clicks on the puzzle based on old correlations data.
I have no idea if this is still functional but I found the link 😁

https://jsfiddle.net/podhrLg3/13/

[hollow forge]

it's both. We shouldnt have access to the statue, so we are ignoring it

[unborn pollen]

Im tryin to keep up, how did he get thesentry statue?

wait not supposed to be out yet?

[hollow forge]

Seems to work for me.

[novel cargo]

I hope it helps. It was very useful for us over the years.

[hollow forge]

I was thinking it'd be an easy/fun coding project to make the game lol

[pulsar obsidian]

🧑‍💻

[stiff meadow]

Is this old? This cell door has a healthbar titled "Cell Door 3-5x1"

[hollow forge]

Yes, that's known

[sinful trail]

Is this the right secret room? /s

[fiery night]

is that new ?

[wanton relic]

I think we ony missin 2 between purple and blue, and we have 2 locked owls in catacombs

yeah but it can be 6 or 10, lets see I hope it is 6

[hollow forge]

I think the lighting is weird?

[sleek veldt]

im on NA, so im bugged?

[wanton relic]

na Is bugged who knows if what you are doing is correct or not

[final ingot]

if you looted the statue, and you did something with it, you're going the wrong path, since no one is supposed to be able to interact with the statue

[unborn pollen]

how do you unlock the puzzle?

[wanton relic]

yea I'm not saying that it can't be 10 but it can also be 6, there is no rule wrote where they can't be a different space

[unborn pollen]

the glazer puzzle, no statue there for me

[drowsy token]

so nothing happens if you finish the puzzle?

[wanton relic]

look no cause you have not did all the step and the next step could be locked with hidden quests not completed

[wide cobalt]

true true ☺️

[wraith urchin]

as of now, no

[queen ice]

Eu still normalize we can't took the owl statue?

[final ingot]

whatever happens if you finish the puzzle is not affiliated with the 7 O'Clock secret

because looting the statue is a bug, you shouldn't be able to do that

[wanton relic]

ue is not bugged, so no, need something else before interact with statue and flag the hidden quest

[queen ice]

mhm well ok we jsut keep a stage before found the statue so

[sly pollen]

Im guessing the special puzzle and the chest showing up was also bugged then, maybe?

[wanton relic]

dont think so

I think they are following step but after the puzzle you need the previus trigger to continue

[final ingot]

yes everything that has to do with triggering the puzzle is not intended, as you should not be able to loot the statue

[wanton relic]

also we have a hint

ignore the statue means there is 1 more thing, or more things to do before.

[pine heron]

if only EYE could see the future.

[final ingot]

you need the statue to start the puzzle..

[wanton relic]

so I guess there is no point to go on statue and use toys items to grab it

[warm spruce]

hoot?

[wanton relic]

since he said to ignore it.

[main token]

Its part of the secret yes, but a later step. Ignore it because it either wont work right now or wont be helpful anyway I guess (my opinion)

[sly pollen]

@wanton relic Im talking about earlier before we even upgraded our pet and found the small statue + colours, we found the elven chest in the glazer room. that probably shouldnt have showed up when it did, is what Im saying

[wanton relic]

yea another bug

looks like

[sterile creek]

EU - can't loot the statue

oh OK it's bugged?

[wanton relic]

its not bugged, we need to get more stuff to click it

[main plover]

trying to get all these statues down while keeping the center one up is so aggravating I want to punch myself, hard, in the junk. twice

[sterile creek]

yeah it's bugged US, just caught up

[dark sparrow]

/way #630 47.48 84.74 Owl of the Watchers H

[sly pollen]

imagine if it wasnt bugged but they decided to give US an easier version lel

[unborn pollen]

NA education needs abit of an assist

[shy stirrup]

Question, has anyone tried having a group of four with owls and orbs inside dungeon?

[cyan hatch]

the bug is it's not supposed to be looted at this time, so we may be missing something important needed to complete it

[stray tree]

You wanna come into my dungeon and touch my owl statue?

[shy stirrup]

I'll polish it sure

[stark lion]

You need "Fledgling Warden Owl" on the Watchers Isle/Azsune. There you get 4 Buffs (Red, Blue, Green, Purple) from the Owl-Statues.

[clever cedar]

Does one have to get all the buffs at once ?

[stray tree]

We know it’s in pins

[dreamy void]

She Fledgling my Warden till i Owl

[digital crane]

uh guys

i looted it

[vestal lodge]

on US or EU

[digital crane]

us

[floral zinc]

yesh thats the bug, you're not suppose to be able to loot it yet as there is a step in between that no one has figured out. its bugged for US

[dreamy void]

is anyone here talking on discord rn? im sure they would appreciate a little update that you are getting loot

i mean talking

[final ingot]

I don't think yet is the right way to phrase it, they didn't tell us that, just that we're not supposed to be able to interact with it

[floral zinc]

josh said ignore the statue

[final ingot]

yeah

[floral zinc]

that implys dont loot it

[dreamy void]

frick

[proper wagon]

I'm just asking to be sure. The puzzle in the boss room ( glazer ) is also a bug on the EU server? Or is it just me that doesn't work?

[floral zinc]

its not bugged for eu, we just don't know the next step. some how US servers skipped a step and are now bugged, EU is working as intended

[digital crane]

whelp i might be fucked

[floral zinc]

yes

[queen ice]

not seing puzzle room in glazer space

[digital crane]

i used the statue

and its not in my bag anymrore

[floral zinc]

it will probs be fixed, i would just stop until it is

[candid token]

might be intended? have to go get it everytime to start the game

Oh, didn't see above, josh said looting was a bug? ack

[heady bobcat]

any eu with glazer puzzle?

[safe kettle]

EU cannot access it, US is bugged thats why it can. neither should be able to at the moment

[vestal mist]

i looted the sentry and it allows me to * place it * with the 4 orbs around this known?

[vestal mist]

i havent gone to kara yet idk if it will depawn in bags

im still looking around the dungeon if theres another

[digital crane]

i placed mine in stormwind

it did nothing

and then i reran it an looted again

[undone coral]

i placed mine in the catacombs and got a maginfying glass over my head like something happened. but couldnt see any changes

[safe kettle]

FWIW if people were still trying to look into stuff

[novel cargo]

-IF YOU ARE LOOTING THE STATUE IT IS A KNOWN BUG-
We clarified that we jumped steps and that is not supposed to be happening

[languid saffron]

My solution if it helps someone. C represents the click location on that numbered step. For instance, I started by clicking square 1. The next part is the result of that and C represents next click. The second image shows the direction I was facing (owl statues facing SW).

[fair tide]

So US bug is not being fixed?

[upper fossil]

we arent NOT suppose to be on it yet so prop wont be

[warm spruce]

it will probably be locked until we should be there

[sleek sorrel]

so US is not getting this Mini game to show? Thats teh bug right now?

[safe kettle]

the bug is that US can loot the statue and start the puzzle

[sleek sorrel]

Okay got it. Don;t place statue and start the puzzle untill Josh lets us know got it

[upper fossil]

and complete it but thats all we can do cant loot anything else or do anything after solving it..which we have solved and done which is why we are told NOT to worry about it

[magic umbra]

when I put a statue in front of room 8 it changed color

[tardy cairn]

Dang, I just looted the statue before I read everyone saying not to do it and now what to do … oops 🙊

I’ll just head out and not continue I guess

[drowsy oak]

where did u loot it from btw? xD

the forbidden fruit

i know its in vault of the wardens but where tho xD

[tardy cairn]

In the dungeon secret room it was on the floor

[fossil ether]

tbh I solved the owl statue puzzle thing but when I zoned out it just reset

Could just be a waste of time until we're actually at this point

Also, upon reset the puzzle is different. Which statues activate which is completely mixed up it seems.

[hot shadow]

You can just click the statue also and reset the puzzle.

[limber ginkgo]

I'm in the US and I could do the mini game, I just didn't didn't get all the statues down

[upper fossil]

i was able to but couldnt do anything after soo just wait until we are suppose to be on it puzzle is actually easy

[onyx hinge]

Same. I put it on the ground in rats revenge and it vanished. I thought I needed it as one of the movable statues. ._.

[lavish briar]

RE: The Sentry Statue:
We've received an update, the item is now obtainable for EU as well. HOWEVER, the recommendation to continue with the steps in numerical order, as usual, remains. This was simply done to make play fair between both regions but it is NOT intended to be solvable in this state.

The chest will NOT spawn after the puzzle has been completed

[hot shadow]

This does make me feel as if it will not brick or bust anything then. It may just be a "Oh, you guy's...Missed how to figure it out, but. Go ahead."

[sly pollen]

its probably supposed to be put in the glazer room, we solve it, spawns the chest. placing it anywhere else will make it fade out because we dont have elune's light

[sinful trail]

anyone else only able to place the sentinel statue twice before it disappears and then have to go clear vault again to get another one?

[dreamy void]

Theres an update with owls

Trying to find the post, basically it was broken in eu, now its fixed we still arent supposed to be able to solve it atm

[fair tide]

thank you

[tight gust]

its like 4 messages above you

[dreamy void]

haha

[fair tide]

welcome to wow secret finding discord

[ocean ridge]

anyone with a startup sequence solved can please share bike room?

[tiny chasm]

People who have it solved say nothing changes

[lavish briar]

the recommendation to continue with the steps in numerical order, as usual remains

[hot shadow]

But you get a sense of accomplishment in your heart that you did it.

[tiny chasm]

Sadly I'm not one of them

Closest I got was 3 statues up

[hot shadow]

I got to like 4, and gave up lol

[ocean ridge]

I mean is not hard if you invest the time on mapping all tiles :S

[hot shadow]

I don't have the smarts, much less the patience for that. I can Excel a spreadsheet, but I refuse.

[ocean ridge]

and the issue is that looks like is personal puzzle

[hot shadow]

I will reset it until it looks identical to someone elses.

[ocean ridge]

I wonder how many combinations could be that xd

[topaz sigil]

what do

[safe kettle]

#1308884230985617418 message for now, nothing

[topaz sigil]

Oh, thanks didn't notice that was the referenced item.

[granite oasis]

guys stop getting the statue

was already said it can fuck up your secret progression and is not emant to be found

[fluid plinth]

How 😦

[hot shadow]

They allowed EU to pick it up now. So it likely won't screw anything up, but solving it at the moment will not do anything.

[fluid plinth]

Friend say me go to take it

[drowsy oak]

yeah i saw that aswell

[ocean ridge]

those are our 3 next steps

[rocky haven]

Do we have confirmation that picking up the statue now is no longer technically a bug, but working as intended/we're able to make progress? Or are people just pushing forward anyhow regardless

[upper fossil]

ya when we solved it we couldnt do anything

[tiny chasm]

Josh has said it won't softlock us, and people that did solve the puzzle has said nothing happens after.

So there isn't much point in doing it right now.

[rocky haven]

Oh, I just saw the message that it's not intended to be solvable yet

[gritty slate]

you can use your statue and go back and get another too

cause I used mine in the kara puzzle dung and went back and got a new one

[unreal aurora]

The other two images are normal but I've never seen a model like Morchok from Dragon Soul or Ozruk from Stonecore in those pools.

[ocean ridge]

posting here some photos before getting cordana light

[young ermine]

Theyve been there since legion

[tight gust]

keep an eye out for
https://www.wowhead.com/item=229054/wardens-mirror

[ocean ridge]

now some interesting stuff when I have the light

[ocean ridge]

huh I just hope we wont have to light the 3-5 ´prison with the 4 owls there

[stray tree]

Have we found out anything new since the buggy statue? Just returning from awhile

[unkempt vault]

is there a solution to glazer room puzzle

[fair tide]

Everyone gets their own puzzle

[limber ginkgo]

Lol I struggled with the puzzle

[pine heron]

The puzzles are different everytime yo ustart up a sequence and which 5 statues activate are different as well. So, in short, no.

[dense sphinx]

is this new?

[sly pollen]

@ocean ridge not saying it isnt part of the secret, but it was added in legion https://www.wowhead.com/npc=97681/demon-spider#comments

[cobalt mountain]

Part of an achievement

[dense sphinx]

thx

[sly pollen]

this was added in TWW though, but could be from azj-kahet maybe https://www.wowhead.com/npc=220329/demon-spider

[cobalt mountain]

I wonder if the "original" Glazer puzzle that was discovered years ago, the seemingly rare and random non-WQ, "wildfire" variant, was a test version of the now final puzzle that was accidentally stumbled across as a bug. Kind of like a precursor to this event, they'd just never fully fleshed it out

[sly pollen]

maybe. but its weird if muffinus would hint at the wardens secret if it wasnt fully completed - and I think that puzzle was part of it

[drowsy oak]

in the locked room there are 2 books about the watchers guess we need to open the room first in order to get the clues for the rest of the puzzle

[amber swan]

hmmm

[safe kettle]

the chest will probably spawn there when that effect happens once we're at this part of the secret

[amber swan]

yeah

[upper fossil]

yep until we are on this stage The chest prop wont spawn just focus on the golden muf for now 🙂

[cobalt mountain]

Just throwing this out there: in Kun-Lai Summit, Isle of Reckoning, there's 4 Zandalri Voodoo Cauldrons. Each has a pretty obvious color aura that is the same as our watcher statues: Red, Blue, Purple, Green. Interacting with them does yield a buff (or debuff) each. Haven't explored beyond that yet

[fast wren]

wait, so i was able to loot the statue in the VoW after doing the thing

[sly pollen]

yes, everyone can do that now because it was bugged, but we are not supposed to be on this step yet @fast wren

[fast wren]

oh. uh. hm

[sly pollen]

@fast wren in the pins

[wind totem]

got this message when walking up to this owl in Moonglade, not sure how those quest flags work/matter yet, could it be relevant to the empowl?

[royal portal]

Perhaps a coincidence? I'm at the same statue (62, 69) and my ATT didn't say anything. Glasses, torch, and empowered pet out.

[round rivet]

Anyone know if the Sentry Statue is new or old? It spawns Glazers mini game.. I got 2 statue and already used one but couldnt solve it.

[maiden delta]

has anyone looked into what looks like morse code from the idol of ohn'ara in the catacombs

[nimble roost]

it was gibberish

[maiden delta]

figured since the idol only points to the owl statues it would say something

[sly pollen]

@wind totem I got those when afk in catacombs. was in vault of the wardens earlier that same day. its probably related to the secret in there, but I guess it takes some time for the gam to register or it could be related to the bug and blizzard fixing with it

[sharp light]

after killing all bosses in the vault i came back to the room with my pet still out and elune's light still on my head and i could loot the sentry statue

[verbal oar]

maybe a clue but did anyone notice first boss room that theres only three green orbs lite and one that isnt?

[round rivet]

yes I looted that statue. It can be used to spawn the mini game at Glazer

The mini game is rough

[upper fossil]

and when u complete it you cant do anything else bc we are NOT suppose to be here yet so it wont spawn the chest...which means youll need to do puzzle again

[sharp light]

ok ty

[wide cobalt]

is it supposed to do this? it disappears

[pine heron]

indeed. if you sit awhile and listen it will loop

that imp really ahtes the statue

[wide cobalt]

i see, thank you ^^

[pine heron]

Might be something though, who knows! lol

[verbal oar]

anyone else see the fish in the instance in a certin pattern (before first boss orange and green).

[pine heron]

iirc they slowly swim around the outisde in pairs?

is that different?

[sharp light]

i did theres 2 pools of them

you cant fish in them i tied

[verbal oar]

yeah i did too only off things i saw besides some of the orbs around the instance arent lite like a pattern but other then that im lost.

[old gust]

tthis is bug..? nothing

[sly pollen]

@old gust

[winter jungle]

So what now? I solved the Glazer puzzle.

[winter jungle]

So we skipped something?

[wide cobalt]

before i looted the sentry there was a moonglaive/blade behind a door to the imp-room, after i looted it its no longer there

[hollow forge]

Still seems buggy imo

[pine heron]

my thought is that when the 9th coin was picked up by the first person it pushed the update that unlocked new parts of the felcycle inadvertently, and mistakenly, allowing the owl statue to be looted.

[ionic quarry]

thats very likely, honestly

it's how most unlocks work--it breaks the encryption for everyone

[pine heron]

The timing is just too close.

[winter jungle]

Josh has mentioned several times that everything is doable and working, so I'm not sure. Are we or are we not screwed? When I solved the Glazer puzzle, it lit up green. But I'm not sure if I'm stuck now or if there's something I have to do.

[pine heron]

he said that if you knew the steps you could go do them.

not taht you could just go loot the bike directly.

[winter jungle]

I wonder if the escape room has updated for me

[pine heron]

Im viewing this as an escape room. we are solving puzzles that unlock more of the escape room.

[winter jungle]

I almost feel like I shouldn't leave the dungeon.

[pine heron]

im also even more convinced that the watcher secret and obtaining the gold muffin are linked since the watcher thing inadvertently unlocked.

[sly pollen]

I wouldnt bother right now. better to wait until the previous pylon is finished. unless you reeeeally want to figure this one out now 😛

[pine heron]

if the muffin isnt in the mystery chest I'd be surprised.

[winter jungle]

You think I'll have to redo the glazer puzzle? I really hope not. It was hard.

[sly pollen]

@pine heron that doesnt make sense as this is pylon 7 and muffin is part of pylon 4?

[pine heron]

Probably. it resets each time. we were told to drop it until the puzzles led us there

[winter jungle]

That seems silly

[pine heron]

its only the third pylon and still having the little orbs with the main big one likely means they are connected to something else.

[sly pollen]

not sure what you mean. when we finish pylon 6, we will most likely be led to vault of the wardens and this part of the puzzle, so having the muffin come from the chest in vault makes no sense. unless you mean another chest when you say "mystery chest"

[pine heron]

Also Josh said something about the puzzle steps possibly running concurrently .

[sly pollen]

yes, he did, but the last part of each also sends us to the next

[pine heron]

weve had 4 on the watcher pylon since day 1. literally the very first orbs we had

So that line of thought is a bit flawed.

[sly pollen]

no, because 1 clock and 2 clock have led us to the next clock

[pine heron]

While not incorrect, cause of course I don't know and could easily be totally mistaken.

[winter jungle]

I didn't even see a chest

[hollow forge]

I think it's pretty likely that the small orbs around the pedestals do not go away and that they are part of a puzzle where you interact with the pedestals to open the vault door connected to the cycle room

Once all the orbs are in place

[pine heron]

Well, they have though. on the previous two

[hollow forge]

Did they have individual lights that disappeared? I don't remember that

[pine heron]

And they are staying telling us we arent done with the hate coins. I imagine the moment we buy the item they vanish

[hollow forge]

Maybe I am confusing things in my head lol

[pine heron]

I speedran through the completions not checking them. I assume they did

[sly pollen]

@winter jungle youre not supposed to, but we have seen it before we even figured out this thing with the battle pet and the small sentry

@hollow forge you are not confused, raggu is

[hollow forge]

I honestly don't remember when doing the decryption machines

I plan to go through things again with another character soon to catch up, so I'll have to check it out then

[sly pollen]

unless he has proof the orc and clock 2 had small orbs but no one checked because they were fast to finish and no one went back to check inbetween

[winter jungle]

It doesn't look like anything has changed for me. No extra orbs, can't interact with the warden statues - nothin.

[pine heron]

taht was the ahte coins haha. um there might not have been. that was just an assumption

[hollow forge]

The other thing that would settle it would be completing the next step

[pine heron]

yea

[hollow forge]

Duh, my b lol

[sly pollen]

@winter jungle because you have skipped steps. thats what the sticky is about. youre not supposed to be able to pick up the sentry and do the glazer puzzle yet

[winter jungle]

Ahh.

[pine heron]

Easy to forget, we were stuck there for so long.

[winter jungle]

What the hell did I miss? Seems to have had okay flow and made sense.

Unless it has to deal with the moonblades

[sly pollen]

the steps that let you pick up the sentry lol

[hollow forge]

Yeah I don't think anyone checked the olgra buff with fewer than 3 stacks because it was all done without in the world

[pine heron]

Just some inadvertent coding causing a hiccup.

[sly pollen]

it is BUGGED but blizzard let is stay bugged and we will figure it out eventually when we get to this secret

[pine heron]

yea, it looks like there's a stopgap to prevent wrong progress so thats good. hopefully all will make sense when we get led here. if not by the muffin then surely by the watcher books in the room the muffin allows access to.

[winter jungle]

There doesn't really seem to be any clues about the muffin afaik

[pine heron]

(and hopefully the puzzle comes with a solution guide to the Glazer puzzle) lol

maybe the randomness of the glazer puzzle is the bruteforce protection. perhaps when we get here naturally it will spawn a static puzzle.

[winter jungle]

When I solved it, I just tried my best to tread it like a Rubik's cube. 1 then 2 then 3 then 1 then 2 then 1 kinda deal.

[pine heron]

The closest I got clicking randomly was 3 up.

[winter jungle]

If more lenses went down then up I was on the right track.

[pine heron]

But I only spent like 20 minutes.

[winter jungle]

It took me like 2 hours or so.

[pine heron]

Everytime only the single statue went down was like a punch to the chest haha

[sly pollen]

@winter jungle this is what the chest looks like

[winter jungle]

That's when you take the adjacent one that comes up and activate that, it'll most likely pop up the previous one so you can send it back down and undo your previous action. It's about probing them for which ones are the most cost effective to go with.

[sly pollen]

the moon on the chest has that same orb our battle pet gets

[pine heron]

True, sus

Also, what else can we draw from it. its ghostly.

We havent interacted with anythign else ghostly for this secret have we?

Theres the ghosts at the academy

Similar themed look

Well within flying distance with any of the statue buffs.

Perhaps we can ask to fight against warden enemies similar to the quest that took place there?

Where those buffs either are references to the enemies or would be uniquely good against them

I believe we looted scrolls and books to fight enemies there for the quest. Could there be warden enemy scrolls somewhere available to be looted to trigger fights

Or maybe now we can just ask to fight some? With the 9th coin trigger having happened

Could be a case of using the arch key item as well, which can be shared in use by a party similar to the nzoth pillar.

[proud pagoda]

hello, great to hear this part moves forward, just to understand what is the goal of the puzzle exactly ? (not the loot, i mean the game itself)

[upper fossil]

Make them all lower but even jf you do can't do anything won't be able to do anything until we are on this step

[proud pagoda]

if i'm correct, when all lower we can loot the secret item right ? or it's a bug, i'm not sure about the info i read from this night
Also does it require to do the whole dungeon ?

[sly pollen]

yes, you need to pick up elune's light from the last part of the dungeon. no, the chest does not spawn currently. we have skipped parts of it.

[proud pagoda]

ok it means it's not the official way bug a buggy one ?

[upper fossil]

Won't work correctly until we are on this

[sly pollen]

we have not found out all the steps no. probably need to wait until we have solved pylon 6, and we are currently on 3/4 so gonna take a while most likely

[upper fossil]

Pretty much ignore this place until we are actually on it

[next sedge]

yesterday i did the owls and got 3 out of 4 orbs near the mount , any command /run to check which one i missing ?

[sly pollen]

nope. just go again and write down what colours you collect this time

[next sedge]

okay thank u

😛

[dusk meteor]

We've been on this since Legion. This was a secret way back then and it's been gonig on for a long time. Noone ever found it. I 'd be willing to bet they added it to this just because noone was looknig for it anymore. The books that were added in the new zone are probably going to give hints to whatever we've been missing all this time.

[icy horizon]

wait a minute?!!!! have we found something else out now? what did i miss???

[dusk meteor]

Empower owl pet at the owl statues. After killing cordana in vault of the wardens you can take the light orb up the lift if you have the empowered owl pet and hte orb and take it into he room that opens after killing the first boss an owl "switch" appears. It has a gold interaction icon on it when moused over but noone can click it yet.

If you knew all that, then you're caught up.

[zinc hollow]

why i cant see The Sentry Statue

[icy horizon]

thank u no i didnt know any of that

❤️

[zinc hollow]

i killed all boss

[dusk meteor]

when you have the owl empowered with the 4 buffs, the same colored orbs float around where the new "switch" appears. There are odd gaps in the ring they form though. My guess is that there is a way to empower the owl further to get like 8 or 9 orbs there then the switch will work.

been looking all over for any owl/warden statues in other locations and haven't found anything

[icy horizon]

where is JOSH when we need him?! i need to know if Blizzardd has put everything out or if this is a day by day thing......

lol

[old gust]

If you want to see the statue.
First, kill all bosses.
Second, return to the starting point with the light of Elune as is (you must not die or leave the instant)
Third, a statue appears in the room before the first boss.

[dusk meteor]

this secret was added in legion. Noone ever made any progress on it until recently. They probably added hitns in the new instance to get us moving on it again.

The first 6 pillars in ratts revenge zone have all been stuff added in war within. This one's been around since legion, jsut noone ever solved it

[old gust]

There is a bug now.
if you die or leave the instance after defeating all bosses, you will no longer be able to take the Light of Elune to the first point.

[icy horizon]

how do i empower my pet? im about to go into the dungeon

[dusk meteor]

don't go to dungeon until after empowering the pet

it will be a waste of time

[icy horizon]

how do i empower him

[dusk meteor]

there are 9 statues on the island, 3 of them, are active at a time. summon the fledgling warden owl pet, drag it into the glowing statues

get the owl to fly in a circle and get the 4 buffs and it will be empowered and have a white orb over it's head

4 buffs are red, green ,blue and purple

[icy horizon]

oh man, i had those yesterday

[warm spruce]

then you still have them

[old gust]

To be sure, use the skill and move around after summoning the pet.
There are a total of 4 skills for each activated statue, and if a magnifying glass appears on each skill statue, it is complete

[icy horizon]

my owel has an orb over his head already

owl*

[dusk meteor]

ok then it's empowered

[icy horizon]

okay kool

[dusk meteor]

at least as much as any of us know

My bet is there is a way to empwoere it more that we have yet to find

[icy horizon]

u think so?

how many colors are in the puzzle?

thats how m any their will be

[old gust]

I'm not sure about that

[dusk meteor]

just my speculation. When you find the hidden "switch" orbs of those 4 colors float around it. 3 of them are kind of together then there's a gap between them and the 4th. And there is a bigger gap on the opposite side that looks like there would be room for 3 or 4 more if they were spaced evenly

if there were only suppsoed to be 4 total it seems like they would float around like 4 corners

[icy horizon]

hmmmm so maybe a different buff

[dusk meteor]

not unevenly spaced all on one half

[icy horizon]

right i agree

[warm spruce]

the room has space for 6 colors only

[dusk meteor]

I could for sure be wrong, it jsut looks odd the way they are spaced

[warm spruce]

what ever that might be

[rain quartz]

where is that dungeon?

[warm spruce]

Vault of warden

[dusk meteor]

I think it's more like 7 or 8, but either way it looks like there are more colors suppsoed to be there.

and likely if that's the case the switch will work when all of them are there

[warm spruce]

if you look from above, the spacing left can only be fitted by two colors

[icy horizon]

ill take a picture and post it here if i do this right

so i need to kill all the bosses and then do what

go back to t he front with the light and go into a room

[dusk meteor]

so when you go in that room and hte orbs appear it looks to me like the blue, red and green are together, there's a gap between green and purple, and then space for 3 more opposite of red, green and the blank space between green and purple

[warm spruce]

the spacing shouldnt matter as much cus when u do a /reload it gets fucked

[dusk meteor]

blue and purple are directly opposite of each other, it would make sense there would be orbs opposite of red and green at hte very least

[icy horizon]

Is there anything i need to do before killing ALL bosses ? or just go in and kill and dont die or leave

[dusk meteor]

just kill them all, when you kill Cordana, you can then bring one of hte light orbs up the lifts

if Cordana is alive, the light orb you are holding disapepars if you try to take it up a lift

[icy horizon]

hey i have a good question. do we know if we go in on heroic or mythic if anythng changes?

[dusk meteor]

it doesn't appear to

I tried normal heoird and mythic yesterday

[old gust]

Difficulty doesn't matter

[dusk meteor]

mythic is weekly lockout, other than that no difference

[old gust]

all same thing

[icy horizon]

there are only 4 colors outside of the dungeon, Blue,Red,Purple,Green...

[quiet jay]

I've seen someone post these ATT messages before, I think we can ignore them for now as I got them on logging in outside of Kara just now.

[sly pollen]

I've had those too. got them while afk for a long time inside the combs

[dusk meteor]

holy hell the switch jsut worked for me

[icy horizon]

im on my way up

[dusk meteor]

I got a sentry statue "use:place the sentry"

[old gust]

So when will we get the Warden's mirror hahaha?

I think I can solve this riddle if I get the Warden's Mirror.

[dusk meteor]

sentry statrue from clicking the "switch" with orbs around it

[sly pollen]

@dusk meteor you are not up to date. there was a bug letting NA players pick it up while EU players couldnt, so blizzard changed it and bugged it for EU players aswell so now we can pick it up aswell even though we are not supposed to yet because we have skipped steps. you can place it in the glazer room to start the game, but no chest will spawn. that is what the pin is about

[dusk meteor]

switch and orbs disapepared after I got the statue

[old gust]

The statue must be installed in the Hall of Mirrors.

[dusk meteor]

well F me I was excited there for a minute

[sly pollen]

[old gust]

[icy horizon]

okay so do i click the statue now

[sly pollen]

imagine the people finding this in the first place yesterday to then get told it was just a bug

[sly pollen]

do as you want. personally Im waiting until we get to this step in the secret sequence just to make sure I dont fuck my character over and have to start over or wait for a fix from blizzard. so for now I just stay away from that dungeon

[icy horizon]

Well, I just took the statue and put it in my bag anyway

😂

So now I have a statue of an owl in my bag

[sly pollen]

new title unlocked: Avandia, the Statue Keeper

[dusk meteor]

just hold onto it

[icy horizon]

Hey one of my lights is white. It’s not green.

I have red white blue and purple

Maybe I’m missing yellow and green now?🤷‍♀️😂

[old gust]

nope. dont worry

[icy horizon]

Ok

[gilded isle]

Not sure if anyone has already mentioned it but I have looted the owl statue in the middle and received an item "Sentry Statue" in my bags.

[warm spruce]

it was a bug

we shouldnt have got it

but the puzzle is not solvable afaik

[gilded isle]

Oh okay

[sly pollen]

@gilded isle please, just look at a few messages above yours

[gilded isle]

Sorry I was scroll reading and missed it, I will look again, thanks

Oh just recently lol I was reading so much above lol

[warm spruce]

updated

[blissful basin]

ok so..

the statue is not to be used within VOTW?

[empty canyon]

not yet

[blissful basin]

ok nice

thanks

[white hazel]

has there always been walking around a invis watcher between golem and glazer?

[sly pollen]

yes, part of an achievement

[languid minnow]

I have seen no owl statues on the isle

[little creek]

Okay, please catch me up here.

What I know (to get everyone on the same page):
The puzzle is bugged on US servers, and the EU version was adjusted to ensure fairness.

• Clear Vault of the Wardens (in my case, Mythic difficulty), then enter the newly opened room with Elune's Light (and the Fledgling Warden Owl pet?).
• Loot the Sentry Statue.
• Place the Sentry Statue near Glazer to make the Warden Owl appear.
• With this owl, you can start and reset the puzzle.

What I don't know:
How do I solve the puzzle? Apparently, some people have already done it, but the hints here aren't helping me...

[old gust]

Click on the puzzle one by one and record it

[blissful basin]

what means the yellow and blue markers?

[white hazel]

where is this warden owl?

[queen ice]

yellow probably the owl you click and blue what move with it

[white hazel]

where owl 😦

[old gust]

Pressing yellow turns blue in or out. But this is different for each user, so you have to record it yourself.

[little creek]

It appears when you place the Sentry Statue here.

[white hazel]

me placing it where your big one is or in the boss room itself

oh

for people who dont know either, place it in the square

[little creek]

Here from the other side. The Warden Owl was, of course, not there before.

[white hazel]

i geuss we wanted to clear all of them

i tried clearin the middle and then just run and spam the rest and pray

no chest tho

[celest sapphire]

did any1 heard "clang" noise, like doors opening during this puzzle?

[pulsar patrol]

yes

[white hazel]

only difference i noticed was the main statue glowing after all the statues were gone

[celest sapphire]

if i leave dungeon, puzzle will despawn? each time im leaving it does reset fully

[sleek sorrel]

Thought this was bugged still and hold on in US?

[little creek]

Should be obtainable in all regions

[gilded isle]

I haven't left either and scared too lol but I have reset it a couple of times, you have to click the main statue and say reset, then click it again to start it, and it will reset the stage.

[wide cobalt]

got my bf to write a program/code to solve watcher puzzle combination. it worked! and got solved right away XD i have been in there all night, and could not for the life of me solve it. phew

[gilded isle]

Same I've been in here for a few hours and feel like I am going crazy lol How cool, might have to get mah hubby onto it lol

Do you have a picture of the completed stage?

[celest sapphire]

ye bs dung resets fully, now i have to run again to last boss, get orb etc

[wide cobalt]

he can help you too if you want! DM me a list of which pins activate which pins, and current active pins

[gilded isle]

Oh awesome okay thanks

[wide cobalt]

this is what it looks like solved, the hand/mouse is no longer a repair-tool

[gilded isle]

Oh it vanishes when you are done, okay sometimes I thought I got it until I turned to look at the main owl, now I know I didnt get it lol

[vernal swallow]

damn I need to get a husband now to solve puzzles for me

[gilded isle]

It says to add you before you can respond to my dm

[wide cobalt]

thats ok, you can add me ^^

[worn swan]

Maybe you can find a common denominator in the puzzle sovles

[little creek]

Okay, I don't get it. What is the mechanic behind the game, what is the goal? Clicking each statue once didn't work...

[vague nexus]

If you kill last boss and get the statue and leave, then reset, come back and kill again, can you have multiple statues?

[onyx wave]

you have to eliminate every statue

[onyx wave]

it is "unique" item so I think you can have only one in bag

[little creek]

I've tried that, but what do I do if there is no statue to eliminate, but I haven't eliminated all of them yet?

[onyx wave]

if you eliminate all the statues the one with which you started the game will glow

[worn swan]

What did you get from solving it?

[quaint harbor]

whats meant for "magnifying glass cue" ?? i fould all the 4 statues but only get 3 orbs near bike some ppl have 4 😦

[white hazel]

i got nothing from solving it

the statue just started glowing

[worn swan]

how did you solve it?

[white hazel]

i tried my best to clear the 3x3 in the middle and then just spam and run and pray

[onyx wave]

Now it is pointless to solve it.. because we shouldnt have access for puzzle, it was just bugged for NA to be solvable, so they allow EU to loot it too, but it wasnt intended to be solvable now... we need more steps for it

[celest sapphire]

maybe thats why also it does full reset on every entrance / relog etc. for now. It dosent feel like it should do that especially there are kinda many steps to it

[warm spruce]

by that logic the 10 o clock people should also stop worrying about solving it

[upper fossil]

Been told many times to ignore it and worry about it later but refuse to listen

[safe kettle]

To be fair we don't know how much of 10 can be solved prior to the other steps, while we know for sure this one is bugged

[warm spruce]

fair point

[upper fossil]

To ve fair Josh said they have to be solved in order as well

[safe kettle]

correct but he said some portions can be solved beforehand (like the 1k clicks) just not the whole step before the other steps

[grand kettle]

About that, someone said the click counting keeps a score, so if I click it 100 times, leave the lair and return later, the Scrying Orb will tell me I have 100 clicks. But this isn't the case for me. Every time I leave the lair, the Scrying Orb resets the count. Is that normal?

[sullen sparrow]

Why if u use the idol inside te catacumbs it point to the warden statues?

[safe kettle]

because it's part of the secret hunt, we're just not at that part yet

[terse gust]

Which one do i miss?

[upper fossil]

having owl impowered

[terse gust]

how do i empower it?

[warm spruce]

well

the same as u have done before

just with the 4th buff

[terse gust]

green was bugging

[warm spruce]

try green then again :)

but yeah

each statue buff

is its own thing

[verbal osprey]

Is everyone's puzzle different (from setup to relationships)? Also we have solved the puzzle but it didn't do anything?

[safe kettle]

it isnt meant to be doable yet, as per the pinned comment

[scarlet flare]

what this means is things are buggy and by the time we solve 4 5 and 6 o clock orbs, it will be fixed

[visual nebula]

I dont know if someone else has done it but I took the owl-statue I looted from Vault of the Wardens to the catacombs and placed it at the small hexagonshaped thing on the floor infront of the second owlstatue.
I got a magnifying glass popup and the small statue dissapeared.
Now the potion on top of the shelf where the tourch react to the orb with holes and fire says Potion of Weakness instead of Potion of Emotions like it did before. Dont know if it has anything to do with anything but thought I'd share it.

GL in the hunt fellow detectives! 🙂

[lyric hill]

Hi Guy Any progress ? same problem ? we can loot item ? or bug fixed ?

[blissful basin]

hmmm so, what about going back to the dung and try get a new statue? does it work?

[drowsy oak]

the potions are not related to the statues, as they change if u go in and out of the catacombs

[marsh pasture]

i just looted the sentry statue in the dung

[zinc hollow]

When I go out and come in again, this will disappear?

[visual nebula]

OMW to try it

[fluid plinth]

It's seriously interesting and you've probably found part of the secret, but I don't think anyone has seen your message

[night mountain]

has the owl unlocked by any chance?

[visual nebula]

Might be so but I'll keep looking in to it! 🙂

[steep kite]

I’m a programmer and I’d really like to see the source code of how he solved this one. Any chance you could dm it to me? My dms are open

[vague nexus]

There are 6 plates on the floor and 5 statues in the catacombs (rage, watcher, guardian, nature, greed). With the owl from the dungeon it makes 6 statues. There could be something there perhaps? Also those statues turn purple when placed in front of the room with bejeweled puzzle.

[upper fossil]

Yep which is why people are told NOT to do it bc chest WILL not spawn until we are on this step

[visual nebula]

I think you're on to something! I'm in the vault atm to see if the owl statue is lootable again.

[upper fossil]

once we complete this step well be able to most likely MOVE the statue at entrance to the platform thats right next to it

[zinc hollow]

sht Maybe Blizzard will fix it

[past adder]

this statur never appears by me

[past adder]

i was able to pick it up to

i think u need to stay with the orb from boss to be able to pick it up?

cs last time i lost the boss orb and take a otherone and wasnt able to pick it up

[warm spruce]

It is "solvable" but you will get stuck on the end

for now, it is a deadend

[rapid cave]

ive got a save from the other day on nm - can I go back in and pick the light back up and go loot the statue now or will I need to do a fresh mythic run?

[warm spruce]

difficulty does not matter

[visual nebula]

I've been back to the vault and was able to loot the statue again. This time I tried putting it down on the hexagon where the way is blocked by rubble. Opposite side of where the felcycle is. Same thing. Sentry dissapears and I get a magnifying glass. Also I heard a low rumbleing sound in my headphones...

[warm spruce]

Its not solvable right now :DDDD

[visual nebula]

Ofc not but that dont mean we cant explore. 😄

[safe kettle]

How many times do we gotta post the damn pinned update

[upper fossil]

i think this post should just be locked for now personally

[warm spruce]

probs, probs not

we cannot solve it after

but what about the previous step

[wide cobalt]

hes working on making it an addon atm

[royal grail]

he's a hero

[blissful basin]

so.. we're getting somewhere?

[grizzled trout]

got stuck in vault of Betrayer :/

[upper fossil]

....addon for what?

[wide cobalt]

i was in there for about 6+ hours trying to solve it myself, he spends 5 minutes on code and voila 🙃

[royal grail]

Tbh i tried setting everything up for chatgpt to solve it for me 🥲 and got an "overloaded, bye !" 🤣

[visual nebula]

Kinda stuck atm... Leaning towards that there are stpes needed to be done before putting the statue down.
Maybe the fact that the statues turn purple outside the "bejeweld" room is a clue aswell...

Will get back if I find anything useful!

[fluid plinth]

Statue in water send me a Magnifying glass

[wide cobalt]

see i did same, but you still need to map it out like that to get it completed by the thing

just dont reset it, then it will reset the keys and combinations

[upper fossil]

Dropping it in the cata combes atthe TOP door where you are being watched does too

[visual nebula]

Then maybe it is as I feared. You get a magnifying glass as soon as you put it down. No matter where.

[fluid plinth]

How ok 😦

[visual nebula]

Well! At least we can take that theory out of the question for now! On to the next one I guess! 😄

[royal grail]

wait, the pattern isnt the same everytime?

[vague nexus]

When you put on the idol of ohnara in the catacombs. It blinks in an order. I dont think it’s morse code but it could be a sequence of numbers. I wonder if that’s important

[wide cobalt]

yes, its different for "everyone". and when you reset it and start over, you also get a new combination. atleast i did

[royal grail]

i'll stay in this instance forever until an addon is ready 🤣

[steep kite]

I’m impatient and a nerd for source code 😭😭 hahaha

[wide cobalt]

he can solve yours if your photo is still current and you didnt reset?

[vague nexus]

The idol also makes the two owl statues in catacombs light up

[royal grail]

its still current, this is how my board is atm. blue being activated ones

[warm spruce]

legend

[wide cobalt]

leave it like that

[warm spruce]

huh

HUH?

wtf

how

what pool is that

1st boss?

[visual nebula]

He went back after killing Cordana

[warm spruce]

@fluid plinth explain your flow, what you did

how is there now a magnifying glass in the pools

[steep kite]

pretty sure placing the statue anywhere gives the magnifying glass, but I havent' tested it. Only confirmed spot to put it is in Glazer's room tho

[vague nexus]

You get magnifying glass wherever you put the sentry

[fluid plinth]

If u use the statue you have magnifying glasse everywere

[warm spruce]

...that explains then

fuck i misread the message

i've read it as "standing"

not "statue"

ffs

[barren hound]

Does it have to be mythic difficulty?

[onyx wave]

no

[barren hound]

ty

[granite oasis]

why are people still on this, its not meant to be solved yet and cant be solved yet

[steep kite]

prob because the main chain is at a standstill, so people branch out

[sly pollen]

because people refuse to listen and dont read pins

[granite oasis]

kinda feels the other way around, people got stuck at 3 and went on to do this

[barren hound]

To be fair, it says it's not solvable because we missed steps. Not that it's unsolvable period.

[old gust]

The solution to this quiz is
You have to press them one by one.
The number of cases is different for each user.

[royal grail]

thanks but i resetted

[sly pollen]

@barren hound but people are not looking into those missed steps; they are doing the ones we werent supposed to have unlocked yet

[upper fossil]

Let them waste there time and solve it chest will not spawn so they will have to do it again and the pattern is different each time

[sly pollen]

Im not stopping anyone; I just answered kalecgos question 🙂

@orchid gazelle whats the connection to the watcher owls? or you mean to the muffin?

[orchid gazelle]

I apologise this is not the right thread

[spare maple]

For the owls, if my owl is unsummoned, does it reset?

[royal grail]

tbh this puzzle is kinda impossible alone except if u have a giga big brain or have coding skills 🤣

dunno if its a good design to put alot of inputs into a machine and let it solving it for you

[analog badge]

Each watcher buff stacks to a different number. Is that important?

[blissful basin]

I know, it is not resolvable yet /so they say...) but still not getting what is the objective of the owl puzzle... We are supposed to click on the unique statues until no owls are on the board?

[steep kite]

It's also possible that later steps make this puzzle significantly easier, or the easier form of the puzzle, reducing its complexity, and us getting it this early by being bugged is why it's so computationally challenging.

We just don't know

[royal grail]

let's hope so

[outer whale]

Thx got the sentry statue , did on HC

[tender flare]

yeah this watcher game to fix the figure is weird how are you supposed to send all statues down when you click one an 3-4 pop up in random

[onyx wave]

its not random.. you can try which statue trigger which statue and then solve it.. is it hard? yes, but is it worth it? also yes :))

[royal grail]

Its like the Lights Out game with two exceptions:

• each pilar triggers 4 differents pilars.
• you cant click on a desactivated pilar.
  Lights out game can be hard, this, is the next level 🤣 lets pray this hasnt been intended to be solved this way

[steep kite]

Can confirm, mapping it out takes the longest time IMO lol

(and lua is hella slow at solving it, from a programming POV)

[tranquil cloud]

can eu collect the owl yet

[ruby scaffold]

Any chance you wanna share that python code? 😄

[outer whale]

from vault ?

[tranquil cloud]

yes

[outer whale]

did it 5 min ago got the sentry statue

[tranquil cloud]

us and au were able to but not eu yesetday

just got back from work

[safe kettle]

Both can get it but we were told we arent supposed to be able to yet

[next ridge]

I need one that's a programmer and not an accountant it seems...

[daring trail]

is the aim to get all the owls up or all the owls gone?

[tender flare]

all owl statues have to be down which is freakin impossible due to clicking one will randomly spawn 32-4 statues in response

[dull ivy]

where is the glazers puzzel ?

[unkempt vault]

can vault of varden instance not be reset ? i went to sleep and now stuck at last boss room

[queen ice]

depends on difficulty

[unkempt vault]

go on im on mythic

[sly pollen]

do it on normal and you can reset it

[queen ice]

mythic is weekly reset / heroic daily and normal is 10 by hour

[unkempt vault]

thank u

[tranquil ore]

i can't grab the Elune's Light to the uppers rooms... a shadow trap don't let me and lost the buff

[static hill]

Do the owl statues have time limit they need to be activated?

[outer whale]

u need to kill last boss and take the last light orb with you

[tranquil ore]

i know, but i move out of the last boss zone and Elune's Light insta gone

[outer whale]

strange, after killing the boss the purple shit is gone

[tranquil ore]

maybe i killed she so fast

[outer whale]

i also one shot it

did on hc?

[tepid hawk]

just got owl statue on EU, normal difficulty 👍

[outer whale]

maybe try to reset dungeon try again

[night mountain]

happened to me yesterday, just went on another difficulty

[tranquil ore]

i was on Myth, now trying on normal

[tranquil ore]

got my sentry! question, should i use it on Glazer's room? or just wait

[onyx wave]

wait, now it does nothing :))

you can use it in glazer room now and solve puzzle, but it is useless, it will reset each time you go out and now we cant progress here

[cyan hatch]

wait#1308884230985617418 message

[cyan hatch]

yes, but it's a glitch, wait for pillar 7 puzzle#1308884230985617418 message

[onyx wave]

I know, I only answered him :))

[calm mountain]

Think we have to wait for world quest to be active

[cyan hatch]

we wait for pillar 7 puzzle

[calm mountain]

Yea cuss i have statue and places it all over. Killed eyeball boss. Took it back to the catacombs. Nothing happened.

[warm spruce]

afaik, that quest got removed and it does not spawn

[ornate moss]

So what is the wait for? The sentry does make the puzzle appear

[calm mountain]

Ok

When ever we go the statue yesterday there was 2 of us but only one could pick it up. Took it to the eyeball room shined Elunes light on it and it created another statue that was able to be picked up

So now we both have statues in our bag

[ornate moss]

Josh said some parts of Ratts Revenge can help solve their parallel so I've been poking around with three stacks of The Light of Their Love but I can't solve the statue puzzle and they are random each time

[calm mountain]

Maybe the quest is on a spawn timer. We have to kill eyeball boss when at certain times for statue to appear?

[torpid rock]

I saw this too, was wondering wth if it's an old legion bug or something significant, couldn't get anything out of it

[ornate moss]

I've only seen one sentry statue which is the one you get at the start and put in Glazer's Room Entrance to start the puzzle

[torpid rock]

man how did you guys solve this, I'ms till banging my head against it

[calm mountain]

So you guys actually were able to get the puzzle to spawn in?

[ornate moss]

This puzzle has changed at some point because old videos always had the same pattern but now it is random each time you restart it

[ornate moss]

Yes you just put the sentry statue where this statue is I am standing next to

[calm mountain]

OW your so smart !

[ornate moss]

I saw it on an old video lol

[calm mountain]

Ok so as far a solving it have we made any Progress?

[ornate moss]

The pattern is random every time you restart it

[torpid rock]

please share? eyes bleeding 😄

[ornate moss]

Are these all the possibilities?

[calm mountain]

I believe so

Worth a shot

[white pebble]

That chart is not accurate anymore, its random now each time you start the sequence

[ornate moss]

Yeah I tried following the chart but it didn't line up

[calm mountain]

Ok so you guys tried all these?

[white pebble]

that chart is for a single sequence

[torpid rock]

guys, the puzzle relationships are different every time you start the puzzle

I had just noted down all the relations and reset it and it was different x''''D

so nobody elese's solution would work for you

Also I don't get why we're not supposed to be here yet, the clues are enough to just be at this step already, bird buffs done, owl statues, clues to the vault dungeon, owl puzzle up

[ornate moss]

Plus Josh said that some parts of Ratt's Revenge can help solve their parallel

This part is the only one with a solved parallel right now

So I thought it is worth a try

[onyx wave]

dont use it.. its not for this puzzle, because pattern changes every time you start the puzzle game

but it is USELESS to solve this puzzle now, because it is only for bug we can colect sentry owl and do this,... so we are stuck here until we collect next things to do this... so it is pointless right now to solve it

[ornate moss]

Perhaps something is required that will reveal the pattern

I only went over to this part because of what Josh said

[onyx wave]

it should be chest under statue when you solve the puzzle, but right now we cant have it because we skipped steps thanks to bug

[calm mountain]

Did anyone check out the imps on the island that have the same colors and the murlocs?

[onyx wave]

yes

[calm mountain]

Aww so we should be working on 4 then ?

[onyx wave]

yep

[calm mountain]

Blizzard gat keeping

gate

[onyx wave]

nope, just like every secret we had in the past... hivemind or lucid, you needed to do step by step

[amber wasp]

i have a problem , have active all statue in island , i enter in a dungeon and dnont see the little statue ... have any rotation?

[torpid rock]

might need to pick up an orb but dunno, i had an orb when i went for the little statue. For that you need to kill last boss, to be able to walk with the orb through the dungeon. Otherwise it disappears when you try to bring it up with the elevator

[onyx wave]

guys, every information needed is pinned here :))

[amber wasp]

ok ty

[real kelp]

I decided to take my trip to WARDEN dungeon. Did anyone noticed that the 4 statues at entrance got the 4 colours ?

[polar nest]

scroll last messages and you'll see

so best thing to do atm is just keep the statue and wait for the next part to be released?

[sly pollen]

@real kelp everything's in the pins in here or in #1305679978792222830

[vivid quail]

bad thing about the puzzle is it seems random how many it tosses back up for each one you take down

and where it comes up at

[torpid rock]

it's not random, each pillar has a relationship with 4 others creating something like this (reds are presses, blues are relationship)
And it will push them into their opposite state, so it will go down if it's up and vice versa

[vivid quail]

I will try again, but nothing has been consistant on any of these so far

[torpid rock]

gotta start writing them down 😆

[vivid quail]

lol half medicated today that may be interesting

[safe kettle]

Its also not meant to be active so solving it wont cause anything to appear, as we have seen

[torpid rock]

hope someone with some coding skills can create a solver program like that boyfriend xD

[vivid quail]

someone had a video up of a chest appearing so that may not be entirely true

[safe kettle]

It stopped appearing a week or so ago

[vivid quail]

ok so can I restart this if I leave the instance and leave it up or will the whole thing vanish?

or bug out

[safe kettle]

It all resets. No point solving until we are meant to

[vivid quail]

at least I can reset and restart, as long as that is true I will not worry about it yet

may take a couple of days to get off this med

[torpid rock]

each time you reset the pattern will be new so don't do it xD

[night void]

for real tho, this thing is gonna literally drive me insane

[vivid quail]

not worried about the pattern part, just that I can start over when we have some better answers

[torpid rock]

tell me about it, 2 of us have been doing it for the past no joke 5 hours xDD

[vivid quail]

I lost track sometime this morning, I need a break badly

I am probably well out of normal patterns by now anyway lol

[safe kettle]

Why it's not even active yet

[night void]

I've been at it for about 1.5hrs and i already went from "try to write the patterns" to "just run around and click things randomly who gives a f*ck, end me now"

[torpid rock]

ahah same went through those stages

[vivid quail]

lol, I thinK I am rapidly hitting that point myself, focus went away over an hour ago

[torpid rock]

but are we sure tho? 😄

[safe kettle]

Yes read the pin

[vivid quail]

as I said as long as I can start it up again definitely going to just come back later

can someone definitely confirm it will be still usable if I go out?

or redoable?

[pine heron]

Can confirm. I did it on two difficulties and left and came back hours later and did it again

[torpid rock]

Will tell you when I tableflip and leave the dungeon in a bit 🤣

[vivid quail]

Thank you, that is all I needed to know....

May go back and see if I can hit that crystal with anything again, seems like it changes when you bypass the alarm with a toy...

[maiden idol]

Hello people, ive know you guys have heard of my script solving this thing. I tried to make it into an addon but couldnt make it work(Not a lua or wow addon guy).

This is the script and a small walkthrough Ive made on how to do it.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2308410651?t=0h4m11s

[vivid quail]

Thank you, I will look when I come back on, I am barely keeping eyes open

Good luck everyone

[maiden idol]

If you want to try my script thing you can. All you need is the mapping

[undone dagger]

/way #630 40.52 75.19 Owl of the Watchers C

[stark quail]

Fyi. That puzzle was solved but no chest spawns

[torpid rock]

Thank you so much I'm trying it out!!

[hot frost]

Wait.... looks like braille

[night void]

noob question: how do I place world markers when I'm not in a group?

[nimble roost]

for the life of me i cant get the puzzle to appear for me .. did on heroic and mythic...

[pine heron]

There are keybindings for it in the options you can also look up a macro.

[safe kettle]

Puzzle is not fully active, you will have to do it over later if you solve now since we arent at the proper step

[pine heron]

A macro would just let you drop them in an order with a single keybind.

[nimble roost]

yea its weird its been said the statue appears after you beat the boss but it never did for me .. i did the statue thing and my pet has the moon on his head so i dono ... guess ial wait lol

[pine heron]

Really all you have to do once you have the owl in your inventory is drop it on the little diamond shape just above glazers platform right at the entrance.

[nimble roost]

thats what i was misisng so i have to wait for it to reset then i can get access to it

[pine heron]

You can do it on any difficulty. normal is easy just reset it from the right click menu. if you want to reset mythic a trick someone else taught me in this discord is to make a group in the group finder and just zone in to a fresh vault instance.

[steel flare]

Guess as soon as i place the owl statue in catacombs and get a magnfycing glass - statue dissapears from my invetnory. right?

[pine heron]

No clue. ive only ever placed it in Glazers room.

To spawn the puzzle

[nimble roost]

im still wondering the room with the lights seems like their are more colors that should show

[hot frost]

I spot another 2 rigth after enter the dungeon, but thier are blackened

[glass mantle]

how do you get the gazer puzzle to activate

[torpid rock]

This is BiS, someone pin it for later when it works. Worked for me thank you so much 🤩 👏 👏 👏 Tagging any staff for vis @lavish briar @rocky stream @solid warren

[blissful basin]

clear the dung, get the last light orb, kill the last boss and quickly leave the room back to the upper floor

(with the light)

then, go get the statue, and return to the Glazer room

at the entreance place the statue at the squared platform before the stairs

[glass mantle]

do i need to put the statue down, cos i just did and lost the statue but puzzle didn't activate

ahhhh

i placed the statue in the puzzle part

[blissful basin]

yeah

[glass mantle]

tyvm 🙂

[blissful basin]

yw!

[glass mantle]

is that furthest we have atm solving that puzzle?

[upper fossil]

after tou all solved did the chest actually spawn?

[torpid rock]

no, no chest

but like how many steps does this shit need maaayn, isn't this hard enough

[upper fossil]

ya didnt think it spawn...done it 3 times now after 3rd time and reading the pin to ignore it i stopped

[torpid rock]

I got the idea for this puzzle from browsing through the item IDs list. Most new items for this secret have an ID of 2289xx, and I saw an Owl Statue item with no description. So I came to scour the dungeon. Earlier today I already though that this puzzle had to be related to our secret, but was so discouraged when the previous research was saying that the owl was randomly up... And then I found the owl statue 🤣 and the rest is 5 hours of drawing squares

Thought I was real smart, but people had found it already haha

[untold current]

my best guess as to why this is not intended to be doable yet and we have to get it done in sequence is that our owl needs to be empowered by the 2 statues inside the catacombs, which will make a full circle of glowing orbs in the VoTW room where we pick up the statue

[torpid rock]

I thought it was missing the Elune orb empowerment but it didn't do anything 😦 I tried to take the orb out of the dungeon xD There's some Warden Mirror item as well that people have mentioned and is in the item list. I was hoping I'd get it from this puzzle

[vague nexus]

Wasnt there a similar room in the isle of thunder raid? With squares on the floor?

[glossy moon]

After having successfully completed the statues in the dungeon, what should we do?

[barren hound]

Read the pins.

[icy horizon]

I looted it early this morning at 3 am

[nocturne lion]

I placed my owl statue down in the catacombs, got a magnifying glass and now I can't find it in my bags, have I got to get it again now?

[vague nexus]

Yes. Wherever you put it you get a magnifying glass.

[calm mountain]

I was told we couldnt go past the puzzle.

That we had to wait or something

Is this true?

[safe kettle]

Correct, check the pin in this thread

[upper fossil]

No you can not get past it thus why the pin says not to bother doing this

[icy horizon]

NO josh said EVERYTHING we need to solve this is ALREADY out in the content , we just have to put it togeather

[upper fossil]

and should be done in order

[icy horizon]

yep

[tired adder]

how do i know when i got all 4 colours?

[icy horizon]

he wrote us all a message from blizzard in the secret finding chat

he said he loved us and we r doing GREAT lol,,, dont go crazy figuring this out and to get rest ! Everything we need to do this is already in the game so dont rush , take ur time and CONGRATS on what we have done so far 🙂

so im sure that set a fire under alot of ppl asses now that they know everything they need is right in there face ❤️

[calm mountain]

ok cool

Has anyone been able to solve the puzzle yet ?

[icy horizon]

some one said they did but nothing happened

[onyx wave]

yes it was solved but as pin says it is impossible to progress here more.. because we are missing steps :)) so thats why it is pointless to solve it now.. you can make it, but you lost your time (minutes/hours) and when you leave it resets.. so just wait until we have more clues/items which we can use there and then you can torment yourself here :)) (every time you start the puzzle the pattern is different, thats why it is worthless now)

[violet veldt]

anyone has the solution for the statues' puzzle?

[maiden idol]

ive written a script that solves the puzzle. Its a couple of lines above

[maiden idol]

what I just said

[violet veldt]

sorry! XD

[tired adder]

i lost my statue

can i get a new one? xD

[maiden idol]

Here is the script and a video on how to do it

[tropic moss]

u are complete cleaning we need 13 as rest

[nocturne lion]

Why is there conflicting statements about this being solveable and then not solveable?

[onyx wave]

its not conficting... they said it is not solvable right now and it is true

[nocturne lion]

A blue post?

Or just some random on the discord?

[upper fossil]

Josh who made the puzzle

[tropic moss]

i think it is solveable ...

[upper fossil]

you can solve it but chest WILL NOT SPAWN so its pointless lots of people solved it but until the steps before this are done chest WILL NEVER SPAWN

Josh has said the steps have to be done in order and we are not near this step yet

[onyx wave]

Oh lord.. sorry but it is the same story again and again here.. it is not solvable right now because it bugged for some reason for US, it is CONFIRMED by devs... but you can go and do it your way, but right now you will lose your time here, but you can go and try to solve it without items we need for it

[stray tree]

What are people in here still chatting about? Wasn’t this deemed unsolvable at the moment ?

[nocturne lion]

Lol so it's bugged or needs to be done in order?

[tropic moss]

for US .. and EU ?

[stray tree]

Both

They need to be solved in order

[hot shadow]

Needs to be done in order, it isn't bricked.

[tropic moss]

when i leave the instance can i restart the puzzle ? or must i farm a new Totem ?

[hot shadow]

Doing it the bugged way just won't drop anything in the chest when you "solve it", but you aren't stuck.

[stray tree]

So can we get some help with the current mystery instead of wasting resources in here?

[onyx wave]

yesterday it bugged for US - they could loot sentry owl... they "fixed" it so EU can loot it too but it is pointless because we cant do nothing right now here because we missed clues/items/leads what to do next

[nocturne lion]

thank you!

[queen ice]

So moonblade would be no more lootable too?

[icy horizon]

I couldnt get the puzzle to come up for me when i ran the vault this morning,, idk why?!

[polar nest]

if you place the statue, will it disappear with instance reset?

[torpid rock]

check the pins often for progress and what has been found, and use the search bar with the key word to see what people are posting about it
#felcycle message
Once you get 9 pieces of hate coins you can use them at a vendor in Booty Bay inside the goblin jesus statue. The NPC (skeleton behind the treasure chest) sells only 1 item -Relic of Crystal Connections. It costs 9 pieces of hate and 1 golden muffin
We're looking for that muffin

[icy horizon]

Thanks ❤️

[icy horizon]

not sure

[warm spruce]

99% it will

you can reacquire it by repeating it

but obligatory reminder: there is no need to do all of this

[unkempt vault]

wait do we want 0 up or just 13 how do we make the script say we want pylon 13 up

[past adder]

as you can see i get the detektiv glas over the head when place the owl at the other boss room

[night charm]

i got thing over my pet when in dung not a thing happed am missins something

[torpid rock]

I think this happens wherever you place the owl, just placing it gives you the magnifying glass, other people reported the same

[past adder]

ah ok... i see, its just when u in the dungeon, if not it despawn

but u guys think there is a way to open this door ?

[gritty slate]

alch quest boss

[icy horizon]

Look what I just noticed …. So we have the duck bobber down stairs , I got mine from conjurer Margoss on that lil island in dalaran …and I’ve noticed that the puzzle upstairs has the same picture as the Arcane Lure ! Not sure if any of this is relevant or not😂🤷‍♀️ BUT HEY it might be !!!

[royal grail]

Basic arcane spell icon, its also the main arcane mage spell icon, dunno if its really a hint

[icy horizon]

Maybe so

How does horde get the lucky rat tooth

[queen ice]

New capital near BMAH

Griftah is here and sold it

[rain quartz]

ok, i've done puzzle, now? there is any interact to do with Owl pet?

[stiff knoll]

this aswell inside

[unkempt vault]

for the warden puzzle i dont think u want them all down u want 13 up which is the middle one only and a chest should appear does anyone know how to change the script to have just the middle one up

[mortal bane]

so is the Glazer puzzle unsolvable now then?

[unkempt vault]

well we can solve it and there is a script for it just need how to change it from 0 pylons to just middle up

[maiden idol]

im the guy that wrote the script, what is this change so that its only middle up? where is the info from this?

[unkempt vault]

someone has done it b4 and there is a chest that appears instead of just a glow when just the middle one is up

and werent able to open it back then maybe we can now with items we have

[next holly]

https://youtu.be/ewksg-klUIM?t=126
I think he's referring to this

[unkempt vault]

yea all them down i guess but y didnt we get chest?

[maiden idol]

nope, im on my way to get there now

[unkempt vault]

k keep updated

[next holly]

Might be what we'll need to do to solve smth when we're at this point of the secret

[mortal bane]

im confused. i did the puzzle but i dont see a chest(?)

[sly pollen]

-.-

[violet vortex]

Sorry mate, but I've check 3 times with 3 verifications of each statue, and your script does not work
It gives "success" but no solution

[maiden idol]

I went here again with a modified version of my script. And I very much doubt that having the 13th piece up is the solution. Here is just me recording my "findings" https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2308700515

[upper fossil]

thats bc it wont spawn your not suppose to do this yet like the pin says

[maiden idol]

ive just done it one more time, i would be very surprised that you found 3 verisons that didnt work

[violet vortex]

Coutl you check mine if it give you solution ?

[maiden idol]

Ive got nothing better to do right now, so if you would like to screenshare and show me verification of that setup then im more than happy to improve my possible mistake

[granite oasis]

cant mods just lock this for the time being? its unprogressable right now josh said we need the previous torches

[simple elbow]

has anyone tried interacting with the 2 statues in the boss fights while the fledgling is out?

[upper fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/qa-developer-software-development-test-gif-27432169

[calm mountain]

We solved the puzzle the owl is lite up. What now ?

[safe kettle]

Check the pin, puzzle isnt solvable right now

[calm mountain]

We just solved it

2 minutes agao

ago

[barren hound]

Wait, where did we solve this?

[calm mountain]

in the dungeon

[safe kettle]

Check the pin please

[calm mountain]

we are there right now

[safe kettle]

We were told to ignore this portion. It is bugged we arent meant to access the puzzle yet

[barren hound]

Not what it's stated fam

It's said that we didn't do ALL THE PARTS bruh

YOU should re-check the pins.

[calm mountain]

Ok well we got the sentry Owl last night

I took it in the eyeball room

[safe kettle]

We werent supposed to be able to get the statue yet

[calm mountain]

and placed were the owl would spawn if the world quest were ther

[barren hound]

The statues BEEN able to be gotten.

[calm mountain]

when i placed the puzzle game up

[barren hound]

Addi you better not be lyin

[calm mountain]

we just 2 hours mapping the puzzle with the script and solved it

[barren hound]

I'm finna do this rn

[calm mountain]

Owl lite up we are standing in front of it right now

[barren hound]

Did you @ the staff?

[pulsar flicker]

hook us up with a screenie

[safe kettle]

There is supposed to be a chest and it doesnt spawn yet because we skipped stuff we arent meant to. Staff talked to Josh and they said it is safe to ignore this portion

[calm mountain]

Bro i am not lying join my group

and see for your self

[barren hound]

Travysty-sargeras

inv me

[safe kettle]

I believe u im saying the chest doesnt pop up like it should because it is bugged

[calm mountain]

sending invite now

[barren hound]

It's not bugged... We MISSED steps.

[ivory matrix]

Im waiting on some news from any of you !

[violet vortex]

OK I confirm the code from Shejkin works, I'm just thad bad in python copy/paste :p

[safe kettle]

#1308884230985617418 message

"Not intended to be solvable in this state"

[barren hound]

22th November Edit: You are able to LOOT the Statue now and use it to activate Glazer's puzzle, however it is HINTED that it is currently NOT SOLVABLE due to missing steps

Since you can read pins, but only the top one.

Again, we missed steps.

But good on ya for tryna continue to be right.

[safe kettle]

Just tryin to save people time

[ivory matrix]

Its aight, i love you both equally

[calm mountain]

we all standing her staring at statue

[safe kettle]

Yes nobody is saying it isnt doing the animation. Im saying the chest wont spawn because we need to do steps for earlier pillars.

[ivory matrix]

Aint it a book that talk about hint and unsolvable puzzle ? Sus

[calm mountain]

Is anyone in catacombs that could reference notes or clues

[violet vortex]

All is referenced in pinned posts

[brisk mica]

Probably need to find a way to unlock the owl statues in the catacombs to finish empowering the bird before solving the Glazer puzzle, then the chest will spawn as it's supposed to

[final drum]

damn i did the puzzle for nada. oh well the owl has a pretty glowing neck now.

[violet vortex]

Blizz stated we're not ready for the moment, we need to solve other things before

[brisk mica]

Anything before like solving puzzle or chest spawning was an old win condition before that likely repurposed an old unsolved puzzle for the Felcycle secret

[fallow needle]

When you place the statue does it leave your inventory?

[violet vortex]

yes

[brisk mica]

Yes. You can pick it back up if you put it down in Glazer's room outside of the square to trigger the puzzle.

Dropping light on it causes it to vanish, but picking the light up brings it back, and you can still pick it up again

[gritty slate]

what we are saying is a chest is meant to spawn once you complete it, but because we are not meant to be on that step yet the chest isn't spawning yet so you just wasted your time

[vernal spindle]

Does this mean the owl puzzle is complete? heard its bugged, so should i move on and look else where?

[gritty slate]

jesus do people not read the pins

[vernal spindle]

jesus is not hostile towards people.

[safe kettle]

Just that 1 fig tree

[final drum]

it's not junk........it's a treasure

[upper fossil]

youll have to COMPLETE it again too when its time to do this step...thus why the pin said not to waste your time

[vernal spindle]

ok thank you. just a random question on this, hasnt this puzzle been around since legion or around?

[safe kettle]

Touchy question tbh

[barren hound]

The pin says that we missed a step, which is what we're working on solving.

But way to be toxic kiddo.

[gritty slate]

yeh missed a step as in 4, 5 and 6'o'clock

the way this puzzle is playing out it seems you get moved to the next point by the last puzzle

[barren hound]

Josh answered an each are solvable on thier own.

We missed a step in THIS one.

[gritty slate]

and skipping ahead just leaves things unsolvable after a point

[vernal spindle]

havent been part of the solving part of things, so was asking if it has been around since legion or around legion, to me, i wouldnt think solving it would have to do with the other kara pillars solves.

[gritty slate]

it's why most of us grabbed our owl statue and are working on the muffin