Zul'Gurub Ancient Crafting [SOLVED]

[north bay]

flavour text 😄

[tardy aurora]

Pic of your toon with them on please

[north bay]

I can only equip one at a time since I made em on my pally

[tardy aurora]

Sheeeeeesh

[north bay]

I can mog my rogue's swords to them if you like lol

[tardy aurora]

I would if I were you

I've been walking around with the venomreaver on my druids and people have been staring

[north bay]

here ya go 😄

[tardy aurora]

Shit I might have to craft them myself

My current BS is a druid unfort

[idle tusk]

sick

[wild dust]

Has it been reported yet that is Bijou's drop out of ZA? I ran ZA the day of launch and didn't get anything, but came back in today with the succumbed to madness buff ( I don't know if its needed) and one dropped off the first mob I killed

[idle tusk]

its dropping from trash mobs

not very often thou

[drifting crescent]

Maybe they have some extra hidden stuff in ZA??

[idle tusk]

4/6 per run usualy

[drifting crescent]

Also damnit now I need to lvl a DH to rock those swords

[wild dust]

@idle tusk yeah I got one the whole run nothing else yet

[idle tusk]

y rng

some runs 5/7 pcs

then next few runs noting

only bosses drops 100%

[wild dust]

did you use the madness potion on your runs?

Ive got none off the bosses yet in ZA

[idle tusk]

nope-bcs mobs are friendly then right

[idle tusk]

what u mean none?

its 100% drop rate

[wild dust]

Not in ZG in Zul'Aman

[idle tusk]

why would u go there?

[wild dust]

well the Bijou did drop off one of the mobs in here, But the reason I keep coming back is because ZA was Griftahs first quest back in the day. IN DF he sells the Powerful purple thing which matches the icon on the Bijou which it what I was hoping to get an interaction for

[fluid silo]

I can do a run through ZA soon? just to see if anything pops up

[idle tusk]

ah ok…doubt anything is there as we unlock all mysteries so far

but no harm try

[wild dust]

It dropped off the zandalari mobs. I'm using the potion of madness here as well but you can't drop the brazier inside of here. Idk if the potion is needed or not

[idle tusk]

most likely not nedded

its not nedded in zg aswell when farming trash for drops

just for offerings

[fluid silo]

Just looted one without the potion active, in Zul'Aman

[tardy aurora]

ZA or ZG?

[fluid silo]

ZA

[tardy aurora]

Interetsting

Any notable loot?

[fluid silo]

I'm also getting Powerful Mojo

just picking pockets to see if anything else from ZG's loot table is in there

So far looks like it only affects their actual loot and not pickpocketed loot

[wild dust]

@tardy aurora nothing yet, None of the bosses dropped anything for me so far. I am fishing in here at the moment. I will for an hour or soo to see anything special drops. I also did the timed run to see if anything special dropped from the timed chest but nothing other then the normal loot items

[tardy aurora]

Have you guys had luck selling your ZG loot?

[wild dust]

Not yet, but I am on tichondrius and transmogs don't do well in general on this server

[timid iris]

And the guy in ZG is wearing Griftahs clothes.

[tardy aurora]

Bijous drop from all the humonoids

[wild dust]

I have his shoes on always. I have not traded out necklaces yet or anything with him amulets

[timid iris]

I tried trading the Shadowscrawled coin, nothing special happened.

[wild dust]

I have it with me, but because its not reobtainable I am not expecting any interaction with it TBH

I am trying to get the powerful purple cloak from the armor to try as well at the vendor in ZG but it has not popped for me yet

[fluid silo]

Have the Forest Frog NPCs always dropped treasure boxes?

[timid iris]

yup

[fluid silo]

I used the Hex Stick on them and looted "Amani Charm of the Raging Defender" which is flagged in ATT as Unobtainable

just an addon oopsie or?

[timid iris]

ah yeah ATT is a bit behind on the new stuff

[fluid silo]

Ah, a nothingburger then

[wild dust]

@fluid silo those were the charms I was talking about that were able to be taken out of ZA. Originally, Prior to BFA if you left the dungeon those charms and the hex sticks would despawn out of your inventory. There Icons were changed at some point in BFA as well according to wowhead. They are now bears for some strange reason.

[fluid silo]

Ah, right, yeah just used them and noticed the buff icon was a little luckydo-looking bear thing haha

Didn't find any other Bijou or Powerful Mojo outside of that first set of elites between the two packs of Forest Frogs, nothing in pockets either

[north bay]

the charm items could be taken outside but couldn't be used outside ZA and if you used them inside ZA, the buff disappeared when you left the instance, iirc

I'm 100% sure we stashed them in the guild bank while they were relevant

[wild dust]

@fluid silo thats the same adds the one I looted dropped from. Maybe its just one bugged add in that group then?

@north bay I know in BC the charms would disappear out of your inventory if you died or if you left the instance. The information in regards to the charm acting the same way in the cata reboot was based off of comments for the items listed on wowhead, the fact they were useable in BFA outside of ZA.

[idle tusk]

3rd zulian tiger dropped-still no recipe for sword✌️

[tulip surge]

you mean panther?

[idle tusk]

y lol

black panther yea

[tulip surge]

was gonna say woooooot

[idle tusk]

haha

will this be enough for warblades🤨

[north bay]

Oh, I meant during Cata, yeah. I think our guild did ZA twice during BC lol. 😅

[wild dust]

I didn't play during cata but wowhead comments from that time say they would disappear when you left the dungeon too. Idk when it was changed officially

[north bay]

(Also, completely unrelated, but I keep reading your name wrong bc I have a mage named Belzera)

oh there's still 3 in the old guild bank 😂 I think it might be time to do some cleaning lol

[tulip surge]

in 1 run woohoo

[pure bane]

big opening

[celest beacon]

glad ive been doing fishing thing too

[idle tusk]

any luck?

[polar ermine]

can the mats be farmed on normal mode?

[zinc panther]

theres no normal mode

[pure bane]

9 epics and one venomreaver
the other ones are pretty bad

[polar ermine]

oh right

[idle tusk]

some blue recipes are great tmog

sold already some

[steel stone]

which blue recipes did you sell? the ethereal looking 1H swords? for how much?

[tardy aurora]

I can't get any to sell on my server. I was the first to post many

[steel stone]

ye i only sold that fire sword ... to a flipper xD and i've cancel scanned a fair bit.i think prices atm still too high for the general public (30-80k+)

[tardy aurora]

I've made like two million off of black lotus though

[wild dust]

i believe it the madness potions are selling for 6k a piece right now

[tardy aurora]

2500 on my NA server

[steel stone]

on what region? NA?

ah EU still 950 atm, upfrom600

ye alchemy and some mats are selling, not the actual items for end users (xmoggers, collectors)

we're all jsut selling to speculators LOL

[tardy aurora]

I'm planning on cutting the prices of all the transmog things around prime gaming time tonight. I have a bunch of duplicate recipes

[steel stone]

some epic recipes are 10k on my realm LOL. even i wont sell at that price, but when ther's 16+ listed, it will realistically be 1 year or longer until the prices go back up

[tardy aurora]

Yeah it's definitely a long term play

I think a lot of people are going to forget about this farm

[wild dust]

Really its the cata requirement to make them, it what is slowing down people from buying them

[idle tusk]

so on realm with 70 k people…16 low listed recipe is problem

legit

[tardy aurora]

216 Bijous. Pray for my rng

[idle tusk]

anyhow..how u open locked zandalar box?

from fishing

got mining and herb

so cant use noting seems

can rog open?but i cant trade

[tardy aurora]

Yeah you can get a rogue or blacksmith to open

[idle tusk]

gl

ok ty

[tardy aurora]

I think a inscription alt can too

I've gotten two venomreaver recipes already

[steel stone]

😮

im at 100 caches and none so far

how many did you open?

[tardy aurora]

I

I'll let you know when I'm done

I have 216 today

Maybe 20 opened so far

I have 4 total

4 venomreaver recipes

[steel stone]

so you found 2 venomreavers iny our first 20 caches?

what the f

4???:D

man you've used up all your luck

[celest beacon]

Go Necro and use souldbind lockpick

[steel stone]

but that maybe means it's not weighted drop rate afterall

maybe all RNG

[tardy aurora]

Yeah I have bc I can't sell the item or the recipe for 50k

[steel stone]

what?

what realm are you on that the recipe wont sellf or 50k? 😮

low pop?

[tardy aurora]

Illidan high pop

[steel stone]

man, that's so surprising to me

how many are up on ur realm?on my EU fullpop weonly got 3 in total

[tardy aurora]

Yeah If I wasn't making money off alchemy I'd be pissed

4 auctions total, two are mine

[steel stone]

ye im not sure what to say

[tardy aurora]

I'm going to hold onto the recipe for like a year

Put in the guild bank and leave it

Post a bunch of the items for cheap

[steel stone]

ye thats the play for sure, this is THE hyped weapon i see everyone talking about. its possible your realm is too "casual"(tho its high pop, should be plenty of ppl) to know about this new item

[grave silo]

Regardless of the realm, I think you should try selling it for 200k, or even 400k, it's one of the most wanted designs right now

[steel stone]

in my realm we have ppl actually asking in trade chat for venomreaver crafters

for comparison

[tardy aurora]

I have every weapon learned except for the warglaives

Are you EU

[steel stone]

tbh if ur NA

[tardy aurora]

I am NA

[steel stone]

realm xfer is 200k

sell therecipe to a full pop RP realm

[tardy aurora]

Illidan is a raiding realm. Transmog is super cheap

[steel stone]

idk, moonguard (?) and make 1M there

im EU yeah

[tardy aurora]

I have 4 of the venomreaver recipes xd and I have it learned

I have every weapon listed for between 20-100k and I've only sold a crusher

I have all the vendor recipes too

I sold one of the black plate chests for 6k xd

[steel stone]

at least you sold a crusher, better than me LOL

[tardy aurora]

I bought 1k black lotus right before the patch. This is the only thing I'm making money on

[steel stone]

ye thats a very good flip. that and pristine black diamonds

[tardy aurora]

I really thought the weapons would sell

Got a 3rd venomreaver recipe today xd

[steel stone]

why are you farming so much on the same realm if you got 5x venomancer so far? just make an alt on a RP realm and send the stuff there since they're all boa

[tardy aurora]

All my toons are on one server

[steel stone]

you'd only need a new lvl 35+ to go inside HC ZG and use the skull piles with the mojomadness buff. could be done within 2hrs max

and you'd be able to maybe SELL those recipes somewhere else 😛

i dont think doubling down on the same farm,after you got the most prized item, is helpful imo:P

[tardy aurora]

If I really wanted to I could realm transfer with my bnet balance from gold

[steel stone]

well i suggested the lvling method since its free and you can try out a new realm without investing 200k and lets say it's the same thing nothing sells, so you need to xfer again xD

[tardy aurora]

Yeah I don't have faith in these selling atm

I've made 2.5 million from alchemy so far

I'm not really hurting on the transmog selling

[steel stone]

ye i get that

i hate xmog too in general,but then again i didnt start with patch with stack of 1000 black lotus 😛

[tardy aurora]

Yeah transmog is stupid cheap on my realm

Most of my gold has come from battle pets

[idle tusk]

190 box opened since patch come

[tardy aurora]

I'm gonna spam trade in a bit I think. I have every weapon recipe learned and duplicates

[idle tusk]

no warblades

that recipe who ever sell under few million is idiot

pardon my lantguage

[tardy aurora]

I probably opened ~440 boxes and no glaives

[idle tusk]

jesus

[tardy aurora]

Yeah I have a lot of toons with speed sets

The glaive recipe isn't even on my AH

[steel stone]

warblades is the only "super" recipe i got, 1 in 90 boxes

[tardy aurora]

The pitchfork recipe is rare too

I've only gotten 1

[steel stone]

1 in 400?

[tardy aurora]

Yup

[steel stone]

i got one already, 1 in 90

[tardy aurora]

I have duplicates of all the other weapons

I had 110k on monday xd

[idle tusk]

how u mean super rare when u get one in 90….while most of us didnt see it drop in 300-400 boxes

[steel stone]

i mean its super rare in general, just not for me:P

[tardy aurora]

What's even more rare is people making a profit off these recipes this week xd

[steel stone]

LOL so true

[tardy aurora]

Eventually people will forget how to farm these and they will be more valuable

[cinder panther]

[amber onyx]

thats actually wild lol

[amber onyx]

wow I opened that many yesterday and got 2 epics no reaver or blades, my luck is ass....

[amber onyx]

bruh....

[idle tusk]

same for me

opened today 63pcs again

[solemn tartan]

eh sold 3 for 150k people out there just really over valuing them

[idle tusk]

7 epics but no reaver nor warblade

also just realis that i didnt get hexer stick

insc recipe

in 200 boxes so far

seems also rare

[solemn tartan]

I got one i feel like tis rare ive only seen mine and one other on the AH for two days now

[idle tusk]

naah its fine…u just not patient

[amber onyx]

I just dont understand how you get 4 reavers lol I been sweating this since day 1 haha

[idle tusk]

for few months when all this become”last year snow”…check price on ah

[solemn tartan]

I mean sure? but the market on my server currently has well over 100 recipes across all of them and that's after three days since release so no i dont think im inpatient i think people think its a secret gold making thing thats not gonna pan out for most people.

The item for transmog will undoubtly sell well but the recipes just do not have the same value to the average buyer.

[amber onyx]

I sold my first thing overnight lol yeah I def personally overhyped this with my expectations haha

[idle tusk]

its bcs its recipes-not flask…2nd its still fresh patch-most ppl explore patch and things and not hanging on ah scrolling for missing apereances and recipes

[south kraken]

so like.. ive been following this for a little bit. theres.. conceivably a non-zero chance for the waterlogged caches (and maybe the bosses once you trigger the new drops) to drop the old mounts, right?

[idle tusk]

cant say

its 1 box per day

[south kraken]

right

[idle tusk]

and most ppl dont fish

[solemn tartan]

Yea which is why i said the tmogs will sell but the recipes not as much. its literally "hurdle to action"

[south kraken]

and, if they were in there, theyd prolly be stupid rare

[idle tusk]

i personaly gor 35 alts and mybe i fished 25 min overall

[south kraken]

the hope keeps me alive

[amber onyx]

I been doing fish each day and no mount or pet, so couldnt confirm or deny sorry

[south kraken]

i just mean there isnt a way to categorically deny their existance in the boxes

[idle tusk]

t mog will sell more frequently but those few better recipes will sell for way more

i mean son…400 boxes…thats 1200 bijous

[amber onyx]

yeah, cant really rule it out, but if someone does get one id say those odds are ALOT smaller than getting a reaver hahaha

[idle tusk]

nonwarblade no venom reaper

[solemn tartan]

Well as of this moment the person buying the rare reipes is spending half a mil on one then having to climb out of that whole with tmog sell

[idle tusk]

u think casuals gna farm 1.2k bijous

they cant get that in a year

[solemn tartan]

I think betting on a quick sale now vs waiting for a whale in the future puts gold in my pocket today

[amber onyx]

yeah im upto about 300 boxes thus far with today to go still and no reaver or blades so i feel you fam

[idle tusk]

thats legit and thats why i said u got no patience

100 ppl= 100 tastes

cant argue bout that

[solemn tartan]

I got patience boss, i just don't feel your betting strat is gonna work out for you here.

[idle tusk]

i dont invest no gold

just time

[amber onyx]

I mean when its all rng based, you just roll the dice, some ppl win big, some ppl loose big

[idle tusk]

cant go wrong

when recipe dips at low margins-u think people gna farm boxes

for 8 k worth recipe

[solemn tartan]

And moving off two gloves and boots becuase the market was bottoming out isnt exactly inpatient still sitting on the inscrip off hand and two other epic swords /shrug

[idle tusk]

eventually those 80 copies u have on your realm with 80k people will goe off shelf

thats 0.0000001%

compared to population

[solemn tartan]

But that doesnt factor the very small % who will want that. so 80 copies for a much smaller percent starts skewing that figure

[idle tusk]

but yeah all depends on demand that is true

but from what i see

game is going in that direction

hamster syndrom

to collect all

whether is mount toys,tmog etc

and recipe offers unique and pretty good looking tmog

so dunno…i reallt cant see going it wrong

but ofc-time will tell

[amber onyx]

just got this out of the fishing cache lol https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=19944/nat-pagles-fish-terminator

[idle tusk]

haha nice

[amber onyx]

flavor text: "The inscription reads: Fishin's fer sissies - Nat Pagle" hahahaha

is anyone else getting an insane amount of gurubashi punishers? I think thats my 15th one? I have like 10 on the ah but im just vendoring them at this point lol

[hasty seal]

I couldn't find the fishing hole near the temple, I must be blind

[amber onyx]

south-east of temple of bethekk

there are mobs down the hill that are actually fishing

just look out for the ones at the water with fishing poles

[hasty seal]

On that little hill that goes down to the water? I didn't see anything there but that was probably just me being dumb lmao

[steel stone]

tbh im not sure how amazing these xmogs are. they are low res. they resemble 99% of the same skin as the items currently dropped in cata ZG for last 10 years. so only collectors will care for them. but collectors either do it themselves, or wait until its super cheap to buy. atm only ppl buying recipes or 100-500k are ppl hoping to flip. to me this all seems like a bubble about to burst. let's be real, the recipes are overall too easy to farm. its day 3 and many ppl got every single recipes, and hell even double of every recipe.all full pops have 20+ of each recipe on them. and this are 0.010 sellrateitems. imagine if your sever had 20 felstell longblade patterns... imagine how dificult it would be to sell that. and if the price goes up in 1 year, ppl can refarm everything in 2-3days again. i just dont see this ever being some magic 100k+ gph farm sustainable

#rantover

but alchemy and materials are selling so that's nice :p

[amber onyx]

yep down the hill going towards the water, thats the one 🙂

[amber onyx]

for the most part I would agree, expect on venomreaver that thing is dope and I think the recipe and item itself will sell, not sure about the other stuff though

[steel stone]

ye i agree on venomancer as a sole exception since it's the only actully unique skin with no equivalent in cata ZG afaik

[amber onyx]

but yeah alot of them are underwhelming

[steel stone]

and it still looks nice and unique in 2023,unlike the pixelated mess of the other recipes

[amber onyx]

the ethereal swords are something that will go under the radar I think, they not guna sell for tons but I think it will be a tmog staple overtime

[steel stone]

ye i agree on etherealtoo

i think those 3 can sell, but it wont be a 50k+ xmog

prolly 5-10 k at most - just like current ethereal. maybe 25k tops if the recipe acts as a big barrier to entry

[amber onyx]

yeah I dont reckon, itll just be a solid 5-10k item

[steel stone]

we'll see !remindme 6months lol

[amber onyx]

but with the cost of them being realtively low its good

I think it was like 7k worth of mats and i made 5 of each hahaha

ive got the two ethereal swords, just want the reaver now

[steel stone]

ye only reason im still doing this farm is to get that reaver plan to drop xD

otherwise i wouldve stiopped like 30 hrs ago =/

[amber onyx]

hahaha true

oh tip for those sweating trying to juice, bear tartare, its like 11-12% movespeed after every kill

[idle tusk]

90% recipe are unique appereance and unique ID…so no clue what u talking bout

[steel stone]

they're unique but they look almost exactly like the ones currently dropping in zg

inspect the loot that's dropping from all these bosses you kill, the blue gear

it looks virtually identical to the new recipes

that's what im on about

[idle tusk]

it differs on slots

warblades are sword

[steel stone]

and uniqueID is something to excite collectors

not joe casuals

[idle tusk]

daggers drop from boss

[steel stone]

that's my point

[idle tusk]

etc etc

so DH csnt mog it

get my point?

[steel stone]

ye, i still think its extremely minor aspects ... compare this to SOD leggo xmog.. that are universally beloved and look amazing

why do you think one has 0.100 sell rate and most classic mog has 0.03?

xD

BUT BUIT UNIQUE ID!

no xD

let's just agree to disagree IMO

[idle tusk]

wont drag into it…would take wall of text

last month mainly tmog and some current content craft sales

its just 1 realm thou..playing on 3

[amber onyx]

man tmog built diff in EU lol idk maybe my server just ass hahaha

[idle tusk]

check googles sales..one u can learn now from vendor

this was 13 days ago

[amber onyx]

wait the goggles are on ZG vendor now?

or you talking diff goggles?

[idle tusk]

bloodvine lens y

187 k sales

say bye bye to that price now ofc

just saying t mog sells and am into that bussines since 2010

[steel stone]

bro did i say all xmog is bad?

i dont get why you're trying to flex on me now to prove some poin t

[idle tusk]

proving noting really

what works for me might not for you

and vice versa

[amber onyx]

I did go pretty hard on xmog at one point in time, I def didnt get volume of sales like you are that is for sure haha. It would really just be trickle income

[idle tusk]

but yeah u got point…lot epics is easy to get

recipes

thats why i farm em on 24 realms

pointless on 1-2

just sending bijous

for example i sold on korgal recipe for poker

250k

on my realm is 60k

so if u look at pov from one realm-yeah u right

[steel stone]

you actually sold a recipe O_o

RP realm i guess?

[idle tusk]

y 48 min ago

no clue

never played there

just made lvl 35

to use bijous for offerings

[steel stone]

i mean i play on a fullpop,its not good for xmog, but stuff should sell, albeit more slowly.for this stuff it's nothing

[idle tusk]

i avoid full pops as plaque

[amber onyx]

yeah for me currently the price isnt the issue, its actually moving them hahaha I have relatively low prices for all mine. They just arent shifting lol

[idle tusk]

lowering prices usualy dont haste sales

unless u selling it dirty cheap

[steel stone]

i would go to a RP realm to sell, if i get venomreaver to finally drop, but to do this grind all over again ;x

[idle tusk]

exactly…now u getting to my point

u cant stomach it anymore

just idea

to go again

and again

and again

[steel stone]

i mean yeah cuz its bad gph xD

[amber onyx]

if i cant sell em at 50-100k I cant sell em at 500k lol

[idle tusk]

eventually all people will feel like you

and price will rebound

[steel stone]

like i dont think farming for 0.03 recipes to sellin 6 months is great. if i did i could have been farming manatboms for tbc world drop recipes

[idle tusk]

and them am gna get out my recipes from gbank

[idle tusk]

mate recipe is old 3 days

[steel stone]

well sure.then i will go farm them all again in 2days and cycle repeats

[idle tusk]

u realise that sale rate means noting

literally

[steel stone]

i mean we can imagine what the expected sale rate will be ye

and its relevant

to how long we need to sit on this to see a price rebound

idk, i think we're turnign this acheivement discord into a wow econ subreddit, i'll stop for now

[idle tusk]

prices where i sell are fine mostly

like i said i avoid full pops

lowest recipe is like 80 k

anywhere i play

junglefury is 78k

y thats lowest

[steel stone]

you're EU or NA?

[idle tusk]

eu

silvermoon,tarren mill,dreanor and twisting nether i wouldnt play there if someone begs me

its bots + clown nests

[steel stone]

xD

those are all my realms LUL

but i mainly do current content craftign normally:P

[idle tusk]

😂

[steel stone]

ye ye im not setup for xmog, just doing this to try out :p

[idle tusk]

yeah like—tip as u like or set your own fee

love trade chat on those realms

like jesus 2nd coming

all doing all for free

[steel stone]

ye cba with that either

[idle tusk]

y i see now from where i getting

lot quick sales and low margin

but bigger volume

walmart thingie

but its aids

i sell 7 top hat on dreanor 13 k each

and meantime i sell 3 pcs on outland 65k each

[steel stone]

oh lol

[idle tusk]

whats better?

u do math

[steel stone]

you sell tophats on dreanor

[idle tusk]

used to

[steel stone]

we've met then at some point 😛

[idle tusk]

not anymore

just saying volume diff

dont work on tmog

recipe

similiar

it work for flask consumables etc

better have fewer sales with big margins

than many with low

but ofc if u never experienced both

u dont know that better exist

[amber onyx]

I looked into the consumeable market, the margins are so so so low, like even with full spec+multi I would need to make like 1000 flasks to make money on the vers one

like thats just insane to me

I thin the real issue is bones has clearly stolen all the venomreaver patterns and there simply arent any left to drop 😛

[amber onyx]

Another day, no reaver 😦

actually thats a lie, I got bloodlords reaver haha just not the reaver I wanted XD

[winter mulch]

just got Warblades

do we know what to do with the grey items it produces when you craft?

[tulip surge]

you need to craft at the cache

[acoustic phoenix]

Hey all, beside vendor recipes, can you get Gurubashi Mojo from the toy behind the boss or it's drop from bosses? And beside those, is there more Alchemy recipes? Also, can you fish or get polymorph tome turtle from the fishing boss?

[polar ermine]

isnt the dungeon only farmable once per day? how did you get so many? o:

[tulip surge]

any 1 else had either of these 2 they both look like nice transmogs

[amber onyx]

Mojo madness recipes is obtained from the tablet right near where you got the toy, it can only be obtained on a toon that has alchemy

[acoustic phoenix]

Awesome! And beside that and vendor ones, there's no more recipes?
Anyone looted polymorph turtle tome yet?

[amber onyx]

there are heaps of recipes, from bosses and offerings, check pinned comments for how to obtain

[polar ermine]

how can anyone farm so many mats? isnt this dungeon daily?

[whole solstice]

alts

many, many alts

[amber onyx]

i do 13 everyday and thats not even the most, some ppl are at like 20+ in here lol

[idle tusk]

33 here

some recipes are more common

some drops once in blue@moon

[whole solstice]

have you gotten the square holders on a non JC? i think i remember you mentioning you were 59 attempts in with no sign of it

there's still zero on my realm. its never gone up on the AH on my realm

[idle tusk]

i got 3 by now

all were on JC

two drops were on classic JC lvl 1 skill

it didnt dropped yet for non JC for me

on average took me 80-100 runs to get dropped

i must add i do it 5 box thou

so in realitu u might need more runs

but can drop in less ofc

friend got in 9 runs

[pure bane]

Regarding the square holders Recipe
You dont need the ancient ZG unlock
Since I have no Dragonflight I was not able to do the Quest but I still dropped the Square Holders Recipe with JC level1

[pastel copper]

I got mine on a non JC, attempts around 28.

[drifting crescent]

How long does 33 alts take?

[idle tusk]

2h roughly

just boss kils

no trash kills-no fishing

4min per run

give or take

[drifting crescent]

Oh nice

[mellow fossil]

Is there anything still unknown about this secret, or can it be changed to “solved”?

[idle tusk]

we still waiting more ppl do fishing

mybe more gear or even mount drops from cache

[acoustic phoenix]

Where is the vendor for coins?

[idle tusk]

at entrance

right wall hugging

[acoustic phoenix]

I fished a bit and got cache only coins in there

[idle tusk]

i got fishing pole

and 1 wep

1 recipe

[acoustic phoenix]

And from boss I got inscription recipe for stave

[loud dagger]

I'm guessing you need to be lv70 to loot the patterns? Or does level not matter?

[wooden belfry]

how does one make warlblades of hakkari reborn ( and not the unborn ones ) ?

[pure bane]

Yes you need to be level 70 to loot the first two bijou parts to unlock the 'Ancient Secrets in ZG' for your whole account

After that your level dont matter anymore

[loud dagger]

Ok nice, already done the quest, but wasn't sure if level mattered for the plans

[pure bane]

No you can farm the plans, bijous and coins on any of your alts now

[celest beacon]

The toy has to be done on a 70 too

[meager relic]

have you all been doing the tributes that ask for 3 bijou?

i was considering skipping them to maximize what i can get

or are they more likely to be better?

oh i assumed the amount it asked for was variable

nevermind

[ember pike]

Da pool

[tulip surge]

when you say maybe mount drops what mount/mounts are we talking aboout the old one's tiger and raptor?

[cunning solstice]

wow!

love the scenery here

[idle tusk]

off topic

can evokers be ported outside thier zone

when u make one

to go zul gurub

with lock or dung stone portal

[celest beacon]

🙂 @steel stone

[grave silo]

I just got it from the fishing chest, sorry it's not in english, the name is ''Nat Pagle's Fish Terminator''

[acoustic phoenix]

How do you open that chest? It requires lockpicking 15 and it's soulbound item

[shy jackal]

trade a rogue or go necrolord and use the plague deviser's soulbind

[tulip surge]

little tip for rogues if you go to the top of the house where the cook is there is 3 mobs and 1 thats spawn you can pickpocket kill and they instantly spawn if you wanna farm some flame scarred lockboxes

[shy jackal]

can bosses also drop warblades plans?

[idle tusk]

nope

[unkempt scroll]

where is that again ?

[tulip surge]

so you no where you fish well come up the ramp there a building

go to top floor and there is 4 mobs pickpocket them and kill and they instantly repawn

rinse and repeat until your arms are aching like mine was 😛

[dire egret]

Send to a rogue, mechagnome or use shadowlands maldraxxus necrolord covenant keyring

[grave silo]

The item cannot be traded, so you can only use maldraxxus's ability or be a blacksmith yourself

[turbid grove]

Can still have a rogue do it

[unkempt scroll]

blacksmiths can make keys for it aswell, I believe both inscription and engineer also has ways to craft "keys"

[amber onyx]

Can they unlock it in the trade window or something?

[celest beacon]

you can't 🙂 i tried it

[cinder panther]

ofc they can

[amber onyx]

You can do your own on a rogue I think they meant like can a rogue open OTHER people's boxes for them

[tulip surge]

rogue can open for others after you leave instance then you can just send an alt

also jc can pick up a jeweled lockpick from the AH as long as you have lvl1 legion jc

[stark shoal]

you can use any seaforium charge as engi as well

[fierce granite]

Dropped from a neutral common troll, not fished up

btw you can steal the coins from them
sorry if already mentioned

[tulip surge]

have the nerfed the droprate of the plans i just opened 23 tributes and only got 2 plans from it ,also they defo patched it because you can no longer pickpocket the roof of the cook more than once

[naive hemlock]

Engineering, Inscription and Blacksmithing also have items that will unlock stuff but you need to be the profession in question

Also I managed to get up into the section in the circle, there's nothing there at least to the naked eye. 😦

....I wonder if it's a coincidece I got this out of a lockbox?

[cunning solstice]

This is still marked as unsolved in the Discord - what are we still trying to solve related to this?

[vital wagon]

well, I haven't been in there yet other than to get the brazier toy but our mysterious battle pet Trub'l that showed up and then disappeared with the note (for future content) could possibly be lurking in there.

[idle tusk]

we solved all pretty much-mybe only see what drops more from fishing caches

got so far 3 “unobtainable items”and turtle mage glyph

[cunning solstice]

Gotcha gotcha. We will be back in 10.1 for the naxxramas stuff.

[idle tusk]

its daily locked thou

so cant spam farm

[cunning solstice]

Ahh

I’m looking forward to the Naxx stuff for sure. Wonder what removed appearances will be back.

[idle tusk]

is that confirmed ?

[cunning solstice]

It was datamined along with the ZG stuff

Not confirmed but I’d say 99% coming

[idle tusk]

y was suppose come with zull gurub

for some reason isnt

so….

[cunning solstice]

Has anyone looked ? Lol

[idle tusk]

i saw achivment datamined

but its blizzard

u can never say

when or will it come

lets hope

if u recall

rhinosh trader npc from zandalar tribe

was added in bfa

and then all people said-all recipe amd tmog is coming back

and yet we waited untill now

to return

[queen raven]

I think there was an interview where Blizz said they wanted to bring more removed transmogs back.

[idle tusk]

yes i saw

but u can never say ETA bcs devs focus more on current content

remeber when they accidently removed wod crafted gear appereance from garisson

they said it will be shortly fixed and returned

and took em 2yrs and 3 months to return it

so most likely nax gear will eventually brought back

but will it be for few months or few years-no one know

including blizz😂

[kindred yacht]

Zul'Gurub Ancient Crafting [SOLVED]

[tulip surge]

did any 1 else have really low droprate on plans today ?

[amber onyx]

havent done it today but the other day i only got 2 plans out of 43 opens so that was rough

[tulip surge]

yes i got 2 out of 23 this morning

[amber onyx]

I still havent gotten reaver or warblades and I been doing it since it dropped on 13 toons lol

[tulip surge]

jeez i had venomreaver 3 times but no warblades yet

and only sold 1 and not 1 other plans lol

[idle tusk]

i dunno why plans are so cheap

like venomreaver 90k

warblade 100k

and i opened like 400 boxes so far-its really low drop rate

[loud dagger]

Pretty lucky, just opened 30 tributes, Warblade plans, 2 Venomstrikers and 2 other plans

Just need to get to 300 blacksmithing now

[amber onyx]

pretty sure nearly everyone in herre has reaver bar me 😦

[frozen turtle]

Not me, first day did it in all my chars and then thought meh, something to save for when I get bored

[celest beacon]

i have four 😉

[amber onyx]

#FairAndBalanced lol

[celest beacon]

#freegold 🪙

[amber onyx]

I do ever so enjoy making less gold cause of rng 🙂

[celest beacon]

i opened 173 tributes tho

[amber onyx]

im literally over 300......

[celest beacon]

rip 😮

[amber onyx]

ive run 13 toons from day 1 lol

[celest beacon]

are you jeriko?

or just someone else that's be super unlucky

i think he was at 300+ too 🤣

[amber onyx]

yes, my rng is insane, just on the wrong end

[celest beacon]

have you gotten the reborn?

i saw 0 of those

[amber onyx]

nope, no warblades either

[celest beacon]

brutal 😮

[amber onyx]

ive gotten more venomfangs than I can count, gotten so many shit ones taking up the good drops

[celest beacon]

that's what i've got on this realm/acct 🙂 i kept one of each to learn

gonna save up for a few days and buy on a diff realm

[empty sparrow]

Do I need to do all the stuff to just get the toy, if I'm not interested in the patterns?

[acoustic phoenix]

Do we have a list of patterns that are obtainable in ZG now? Mostly interested in Alchemy patterns beside those 4 from vendor and gurubashi mojo one... (pls don't link Wowhead, since its restricted in my country, cant use it)

[lucid gorge]

there is nothing new for alchemy

only old stuff

[acoustic phoenix]

So only 4 vendor recipes and gurubashi mojo? No hidden/ancient recipes from bone piles or bosses?

[lucid gorge]

yes, u can find all the new recipeson AH by searching for "ancient"

[drifting crescent]

Why do you think it’ll be 10.1? I hope it will be but

[light ember]

feel like naxx stuff will be 10.1.5

[drifting crescent]

Yeah didn’t they say in the roadmap prof stuff is in the .5s

[amber onyx]

cant even make this shit up, RNG is a troll lol. I been doing 13 toons since day 1. No venomreaver or warblades, I literally just got 2 venomreavers haha

its finally over!

[tulip surge]

did any 1 make a list of the recipes i just picked up 2 and i havent had them yet

inscription staff and leatherwork legs

[drifting crescent]

Is that staff a unique model? Isn’t that available from the updated ZG

[tulip surge]

yes from zg

[fading tide]

What unobtainable items have you guys found, trying to figure out if I should daily do this if its not just those 2 items from fishing.

[celest beacon]

wowhead has one

[celest beacon]

💰it's pretty good

[obsidian wraith]

it seems on my server its only worth it if you get lucky enough tbh

a lot of people are spamming it

[tulip surge]

i dunno what server your on but i sold 2 things 1 venomreaver last week 500k and then 1 other 5 k lol nothing else will sell even for low gold

[acoustic phoenix]

So far, patterns doesn't sell at all on my realm 😦 too bad I am Alch/herb and can't use them

Anyone got something good from fishing, yet?

[fading tide]

Are those drops form the fishing caches or no? cause thats what I am specifically talking about.

[celest beacon]

I've gotten one recipe from fishing/ the box, but I stopped doing that since it's better gph for me to do just bosses on my alts.

[celest beacon]

few more sales

[muted dagger]

big.

[celest beacon]

getting more realms 🙂

[celest beacon]

definitely not as good as last time, but got 1 venom on realm #2 and 1 reborn on realm #3 🙂

prices there are a bit inflated 🤔 guess i should set it to dbmin

[idle tusk]

that must some low pop realm…on most high realm i play weps are like 20-30k top

[celest beacon]

crafting on 3 highs and 1 full

missing venomreaver on two tho

[simple hound]

just checking to see if anyone in here has gotten Ancient Design: Square Holders from Gahz'rilla in Zul Furak yet? I read on wowhead that someone had recieved it, but then another person commented they're 50 kills in and nothing. I'm only at 20 kills so far. Just hoping for some reassurance lol

[drifting crescent]

How much time went into farming all that?

[celest beacon]

last week? i did a few hours each day (missed two days)

mailbox looking juicy though 🙂

[vital wagon]

I have it, got it round 30-40 kills, someone else got theirs at 90 kills.

[celest beacon]

I'm at 30 😢 no recipe

[simple hound]

ok thank you so much for getting back with me! I'm in between the 30-40 right now so that makes me feel hopeful 🙂

[acoustic phoenix]

How do you summon that boss? I know in Classic you had to have 300 fishing and some lure

[naive hemlock]

In Zul Farak? You just click the gong right?

the fishing boss is in ZG and doesn't exisit, but fishing there is where you get the boxes now

and if stuff is dropping in ZF are we sure this is fully solved?

[rain linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6VtYPMlWMs&ab_channel=StudenAlbatroz zul'farrak recipe drops from gahz'ranka but it is a very very super low drop chance

most people are farming zul'gurub and are not looking at other zul dungeons simply cause they don't drop any bijous but surprise surprise

the goggles drop from there

u don't have to do anything to summon boss click gong

it drops from that boss the drop rate is just painfully low

this will be a huge gold maker because simply almost nobody is gonna farm kill boss in zul'farrak and u must have relics of the ancient empire done on 1 toon for it to drop so GL

https://www.wowhead.com/item=203838/ancient-formula-mindslaves-reach is the pattern i am looking for

should still be couple unfound recipes

[mellow fossil]

Same as the other epic recipes- from the tribute piles. There’s a mindslave pattern on my realm AH that’s been 15k for days.

[rain linden]

heh il be darn it tells you where to farm it from

still i didn't know about it til someone on youtube told me about it the gold maker

should of known

https://www.wowhead.com/item=204406/ancient-design-square-holders but while it does tell u where to farm it from it don't tell u that u need to has relics feat although it should be obvious

its notable cause its only zul'gurub ancient pattern that i know of that drops outside of zul'gurub

i was wondering about zul'drak or throne of thunder specifically the first 3 bosses but then i realized that those came out in MOP and wrath and wouldn't make sense for anything being hidden there

[vital wagon]

blizzard has enabled the too many instances on Zul'Farrak. When I got my square holders pattern this did not happen.

[rain linden]

still expect this recipe to sell more well then the other ZG patterns that are all found

in ZG

or the cosmetic helm

until wowhead or someone else shares it then everyone and their mother will farm it and price will drop like stones

[vital wagon]

well word needs to get out cause I've only sold 1 pair of glasses

[rain linden]

ya as people don't know it exists if u look on wowhead article it will say origional source quest from ZG but its just the item not the

cosmetic helm

i typed 10.0.7 secret and then i saw this video on ZG thought it was clickbait and then he did say hey recipe drops from here for those who have the relics of fallen empire and i'm like dam i didn't know that

i thought this secret was DONE ZO and while it still is

i sure as heck didn't know that bliz hid a recipe outside the instance

[vital wagon]

they have a tiger strip pattern on them, hmmm maybe Trub'l

[rain linden]

i was looking on youtube because i found another secret on youtube

that i also didn't know about

but not relating to this pattern

[vital wagon]

I didn't know you had to get the toy from ZG first, glad I did that first

[rain linden]

or the relics of the fallen empire feat

not toy

[vital wagon]

I don't have the achievement

only the toy

so you do not have to have the achievement to get the pattern to drop

[rain linden]

really?

ik its account bound

so an alt can just jump in

and farm recipe

[vital wagon]

I do not have the achievement Relics of a Fallen Empire
I have the JC recipe for Square Holders

on the same toon

[rain linden]

i do know drop rate is INSANELY LOW

[vital wagon]

the 1st one reported here was 90 runs, I was somewhere between 30-40 runs

[rain linden]

kinda should be known though by wowhead though to be honest

that will help with

selling of these

goggles

[celest beacon]

i got tired of farming for square holders at around run #50 so i ended up just buying seven copies of it off the ah

[deep stump]

It's dropped for me on 77th kill and then once again on 177th kill.

[tulip surge]

Well i guess im one of the lucky 1's just got it 11th attempt

[rain linden]

👍

[celest beacon]

best performing realm so far 🙂

[tulip surge]

Good going that I am selling patterns but only 5 to 10 k max

And only 1 to 5 a week

Did sell a venomreaver first week for 500k though so I guess I can't complain

[celest beacon]

still pretty good if they're the blue ones 🙂 this is my 2nd best performing realm

also listing recipes on a different alt on the main realm

[tulip surge]

Doing a great job there mate 👍

[acoustic phoenix]

Can this recipe drop if you're not a jewelcrafter?

[tulip surge]

I'm not 100 % tbh mate I've seen people saying they got it without but I got it on a jc

[simple hound]

yes it can. I posted a comment under wowhead on the ancient designs: square holders with screenshots

[cunning solstice]

Is there a thread for Naxxramas Ancient Crafting?

[winged swan]

Not yet, most of it isn't on the PTR

[cunning solstice]

There’s a hidden criteria trigger for people with the T3 achievement related in some capacity.

[winged swan]

I've compiled a doc with everything datamined so far
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17uI9V_IkBt_zUSqGxtWMnIECxA4DAS6FhaF0BUGjpl4/edit?usp=sharing

[cunning solstice]

Thanks!

I have the achievement so maybe I’ll hop on the PTR and mess around.

[lucid gorge]

are we going to have a thread for naxx stuff?

coming up in 4 days

[cunning solstice]

Yes

[wet dove]

Hello, ppl, mornin'!

[frail finch]

Yes.

[woeful shuttle]

How to I goto the top of the post without scrolling?

[rain linden]

secret was solved i would just use pins or use wowhead guide but if u wanna know use the mouse to click the tab and scroll up on right side of screen