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hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:17 PM

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Hi! I've been fighting with my VPS for the better half of a week trying to update my installation of nodejs to a higher version, I'm currently on 16.18.1. The issue I'm having is that when I try various commands to update it, it throws a permission error saying that it doesn't have access to update some of the files in the /usr/ location. So I decide to use sudo to try and do it, in which my server has a crisis and somehow the superusers don't have any idea node is installed.

I've tried reinstalling node completely to no avail, in the end had to restore a backup of the server because I'd managed to totally uproot it. I've tried any and all commands, tutorials on the internet, even turned to chatgpt also to no avail. If anyone has any idea how I can get unstuck, please let me know 😭

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honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:17 PM

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Ok

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Are you running Linux?

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:18 PM

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centos7, which is recently deprecated, but some of the modules I have don't work with centos8 yet 😢

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:18 PM

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That could be it but let’s try get around it

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Run

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curl -o- https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nvm-sh/nvm/v0.39.7/install.sh | bash

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It’s nvm node version nanager

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Works like a dream most of the time for me

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:19 PM

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that was mentioned a few times, lemme try it again

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alrighty, that's downloaded

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:19 PM

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I managed to get node on a really old pi 💀

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what’s nvm -v

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:20 PM

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my vps appears to be a glorified block of cheese 💀

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:21 PM

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Try closing the terminal and opening a new one

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:22 PM

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oh yeah, it says that doesn't it, i'm fuckin stupid

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0.39.7

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:22 PM

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Awesome

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nvm install v20

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:23 PM

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please tell me it wasn't that easy

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please

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im begging

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:23 PM

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node -c

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v*

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😂😂

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:23 PM

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it was not 🥲

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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Wtf is that

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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I think thats one of the walls I hit previously

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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And what cmd did you run?

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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node -v and node --version

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both show the same thing

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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Wot… that’s so… what

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Do you pay for this vps

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:24 PM

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yeah

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im telling you, my server is powered on hopes and dreams (+ £18 per month)

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:25 PM

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Wtf 💀

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Idrk in all honesty, have you tried copying the error and pasting it to ur good old friend chatgpt to see what nonsense it spills out?

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:25 PM

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theoretically if we can figure out hte packages they come from and individually yum them or something, maybe that would work

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chatgpt told me to "install ubuntu if all else fails"

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:26 PM

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Nonsense it is then

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It’s confusing I’ve never seen that before but I’m not overly familiar with a lot@of that shit

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Maybe jsut get a server with has unbuntu? Lmao

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:27 PM

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wait

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no I think I know what that is

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https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

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those packages are new to centos8

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i hate everything

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maybe I just upgrade to centos8 and see what still works after

vapid karma May 5, 2024, 3:28 PM

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18 euros is a lot for a server that doesn't work, honestly

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:28 PM

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Idk why ur paying that much, the company I use for like 4 gigs of ram 2 CPU’s is like 10$

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If you’re not using a gui which you don’t really need for hosting then that’s plenty

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:29 PM

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😭

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I don't really know how much I should be paying in all honesty

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lemme find what I'm actually paying for

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:29 PM

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The better question is: What do you need hosting for

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How big is the bot, are you running anything else? How power hungry is the bot etc etc

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:30 PM

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well, it's quite beefy, I've got multiple projects running at once

2 webservers
2 discord bots
2 redis instances
big database

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:31 PM

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Is there not an option on that host to just use Ubuntu?

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:33 PM

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there is but I'm a lot more experienced with centos and am a bit worried about transferring everything

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:33 PM

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Depending on the company, most of them will give you a helping hand. The one I use helps a lot when it comes to transferring

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But sorry man, that’s basically the only thing I can think of atm

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that’s what came to mind to myself too, that the c++ and gcc stuff is out of date or missing. Maybe they don’t come native to centos?

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:35 PM

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yeah, I'm about to take a fresh image of my server and upgrade to centos8, im just gonna fuckin risk it

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I use ovh which is apparently "the best one in the uk", so if anything goes wrong, their support will get back to me in 8 years

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:35 PM

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Make sure to backup everything first

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:35 PM

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if centos still craps itself, ill find a new dist, like ubuntu maybe

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or debian, but debian sounds like a japanese car brand

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:36 PM

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hidden mural I use ovh which is apparently "the best one in the uk", so if anything goes wron...

I use a company called Novonode, maybe on the smaller side but the support imo tend to be faster and nicer and not “we’re money hungry a-holes who wanna charge for everything”

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:36 PM

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hidden mural or debian, but debian sounds like a japanese car brand

LMFAO ikr, Ubuntu seems to be the go-to though

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:36 PM

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honest lintel I use a company called Novonode, maybe on the smaller side but the support imo t...

fair, ill look them up

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ovh is expensive but so far ive had no issues

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apart from this

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:37 PM

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What do you have atm?

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2 cpus 8gigs of ram?

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:38 PM

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4 cpus, 8 gigs afaik

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no

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maybe

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:38 PM

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I dmed you the support server, can probs open a ticket and ask them how much n stuff

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:39 PM

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either 4 vcores or 4 cpus ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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alright thanks, ill check it out in a lil bit

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my server is taking ages to back up

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:39 PM

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But that’s all I can suggest 🥲😭, other then just contacting ovh and being like “yo I’m stuck pls help”

hidden mural May 5, 2024, 3:40 PM

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"yo i suck at servers, fix it"

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alright thanks, ill see how far I get 😄

honest lintel May 5, 2024, 3:45 PM

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No probs bro good luck

mortal ravine May 7, 2024, 2:07 PM

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Didnt read the whole thread but to avoid issues like this in the future, never install node through packet manager, install nvm, this will help you tremendously https://github.com/nvm-sh/nvm

honest lintel May 7, 2024, 6:43 PM

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You should’ve read because that’s what we used

mortal ravine May 8, 2024, 11:27 AM

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Oh yeah, you need to uninstall node beforehand otherwise it doesn't work correctly though

honest lintel May 8, 2024, 11:50 AM

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nvm is to install node

timber tendon May 8, 2024, 4:32 PM

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hidden mural it was not 🥲

Usually that happens when glibc gets something modified,

An approach to update Node, if anything, is to build from source

mortal ravine May 9, 2024, 11:16 AM

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honest lintel nvm is to install node

Yes but it conflicts with most packet managers, and will fail to install correctly using brew on macos

lusty sentinel May 13, 2024, 10:02 AM

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i use https://github.com/Schniz/fnm on macos

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and my linux host nowadays as well

grand kite May 13, 2024, 12:48 PM

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any benefits over nvm

lusty sentinel May 13, 2024, 10:30 PM

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mainly that unlike nvm it works for me on macos and seems to in general just be a more flawless experience when instally new versions and such

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cant really say i extensively tested and compared both though

mortal ravine May 14, 2024, 10:48 PM

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I never had a single problem using nvm on macos, I first used it on macos 10.13 until now (runnin macos 14 currently)

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You simply need to not have node install in any other way, uninstall it beforehand if so and you'll never run into issues

lusty sentinel May 15, 2024, 7:17 AM

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i cant install nvm itself is the issue

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and i gave up trying to figure out why when i found fnm as it worked first try

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