Guild .memberCount vs .approximateMemberCount?

[shut talon]

What is the difference between a guild's memberCount and approx MC? I don't see a memberCount in the actual API-provided Guild, and additionally the approximate count is for some reason null? I have the Guilds & GuildMembers intents enabled which I presume are the needed ones.

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[shut talon]

└─ mw-analytics@workspace:.
   └─ discord.js@npm:14.14.1 (via npm:^14.14.1)

Node 18.17.0

            this.container.metricsManager.writePoint(
                new Point("member-count").intField("members", client.guilds.cache.get(env.MAIN_GUILD_ID)!.approximateMemberCount)
            );

The error is the Influx client showing me that the guild's .approximateMemberCount is null

(ping for replies please)

[graceful tendon]

In your cache you‘ll have the Guilds sent on login. Those have the memberCount property. If you fetch a guild your bot is not a member of withCounts you‘d get the approximate fields

https://discord.js.org/docs/packages/discord.js/main/FetchGuildOptions:Interface

[shut talon]

Should I be using .membercount or .approximatemembercount?

[shut talon]

I'm still getting nulls, I enabled GuildPresences as well

            const guild = await client.guilds.fetch({ guild: env.MAIN_GUILD_ID, withCounts: true });

            this.container.metricsManager.writePoint(
                new Point("member-count")
                    .intField("members", guild.approximateMemberCount)
                    .intField("onlineMembers", guild.approximatePresenceCount)
            );

.memberCount exists though

[graceful tendon]

As I said, the guilds your bot is in are cached with exact memberCount on login. Fetching a guild you got in cache will get you the cached one unless you force the fetch (which you never should do with Guilds intent). So use the exact property, no need for approximate one in those cases

[shut talon]

ah, I misunderstood what you said. What about for getting members per presence? Do I fetch the full member list??

[graceful tendon]

With GuildPresences intent you‘ll receive all members with presences that aren’t offline on login. So you can filter your member cache by presence.status and the rest that’s unaccounted for will be offline members

[shut talon]

Technically in some guilds don't you only get members in VCs if they're over the large guild threshold?

[graceful tendon]

No, with presences intent you get all members if below large threshold and all non-offline members if above

Presences of the members in the guild, will only include non-offline members if the size is greater than large threshold

Ah, nvm, you‘re right for 75k and more members

If your bot does not have the GUILD_PRESENCES Gateway Intent, or if the guild has over 75k members, members and presences returned in this event will only contain your bot and users in voice channels.