general

[normal kiln]

i even restarted the pc ..

JUST IN CASE

it fucks on EVERY .d.ts from dist

not the .js ... nah nah

something like that it fucks

[cunning void]

I'm thinking of the context where this error can originate? Perhaps it's treating files in dist as source? Are you sure you are not overriding the config in that project?

[normal kiln]

well at first i thought about dist as source

but my tsconfig i exclude dist

and i have no .ts or .mts file in dist

[cunning void]

On a second thought, why do you have declaration as true? It's not a library where consuming user would have a need for it and you will mostly interact with .ts file, so I'm not sure why that is even needed here?

[normal kiln]

this is a cli npm workspace package

i kinda need the types no ?

[cunning void]

Oh right, that's a monorepo, i overlooked that

[normal kiln]

hehe 😄

for once i dont say stupid thing

thats a first monorepo for me , im kinda ... happy that's the only thing ive bugged on it so far?... lmao

[cunning void]

Idk, maybe nuke all dist and see if that does something

[normal kiln]

oh thats the 6th time i destroy it

it does sweet nothing

well i mean ..

the error is gone if i remove whats inside the dist..

but it get replace by that

mostly because i think because of this in package.json

only logical reason of why it would error like so

[cunning void]

Well that is expected if there is no type declaration.

[normal kiln]

yeah lol

[cunning void]

And you need the types, i have no idea tho why you getting the first error lol

[normal kiln]

same

and its only THAT package

[cunning void]

Do you have the outDir set on the base config or in specific package root?

[normal kiln]

in that package my outdir is set to "outDir": "./dist",
rootbase has nothing except references

root base is this

ill give up for tonight i think lol

OH...

That stupid thing might be the problem...

ive just read that it remembers previous builds...

nevermind

[barren grove]

hehe

i go sleepies now gn

[normal kiln]

good night jo

[tawdry tulip]

tbh I don't used path aliases they tend to break when you do a minor package update with TS or the plugin is lagging behind in some update.

Saying that the Vite Template I used for my site repo has it and its worked since day 1 so I havn't touched it.

[normal kiln]

well for me its not the paths

or maybe it is i dont fucking know anymore

[tawdry tulip]

tbh I tried a while ago to get path aliases working with typescript and never could.

[normal kiln]

the # thing ?

[tawdry tulip]

yep

[normal kiln]

oh thats is stupidly easy

//package.json

 "imports": {
    "#folder/*": "./dist/folder/*",
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
  },
...

//tsconfig
"paths": {
      "#folder/*": ["./src/folder/*"],
    },

you need them at both place

once you know that , its easy
..but you need to know at first ..

[cunning void]

Maybe it's just me , but i hate nodes # as path alias, so i have custom loader that maps @/. Though i think latest node has supports for #/ too

[warm saffron]

I use ts-alias for it never seen it fail me

[wind wave]

h

[dawn terrace]

Can anyone help me pick a name for my bot?

[tawdry tulip]

https://randomwordgenerator.com/name.php

[upbeat gust]

What it do?

[elfin ore]

FaiyazBot, you're welcome

[worthy pulsar]

bot bot

[normal kiln]

...you kidding me

ah , ts woke up

[limpid osprey]

sure, if i can....... I can do

[marble galleon]

can someone help me

i need to make a new bot

[zinc hedge]

and what part of that do you need help with

[elfin ore]

"yes"

[split linden]

#how-to-get-help

[azure sail]

Bot Bot

[fallen adder]

@dawn terrace what do you need?

[azure sail]

They literally say it in the post you replied to?

[neat patrol]

@grok what did the post say

[elfin ore]

chatgpt, what should I think about that?

[normal kiln]

hey , i just realised something ...

is that a circular dependency?

structure > imports > structure

i import stuff via the package name...

inside that same package

[elfin ore]

I think it depends on what the alias resolves to but by default yes, you should probably import via paths if it's in the same package

[earnest flume]

Abdullah

[normal kiln]

yeah i did that and i found another circular

[normal kiln]

orange cat looks almost unreal

[jagged quarry]

circular dependencies are usually an indicator that you haven't structured your packages properly

[earnest flume]

car, he's real

[normal kiln]

yeah , but i also found that Structure depends on type and type depends on structure

it loops right there

[jagged quarry]

well yeah that's the problem

[normal kiln]

thats one of the problems yeah

[elfin ore]

I feel like the "types" packages should not depend on anything

[normal kiln]

TS tries to build types , that needs structure .. that needs types

[normal kiln]

yeah it shouldnt depend on something

so.... imma move my enums there i guess

cuz type needs enums , that is in structure

and structure needs types , that are obviously in types

[elfin ore]

Technically speaking, enums are types

[normal kiln]

................you right

i just didnt think that far

[elfin ore]

In other languages they're referred to as "enumeration types"

It's just that javascript doesn't have them so typescript has a lossy definition on them

[normal kiln]

now its just a thing of .. do i prefer having enums in their own folder inside of Type package ...
or just throw everything in index.d.ts and call it a day...

[elfin ore]

Depending on what you need, to speed up things it may be simpler to just put it all in a single file. If you want maintainability you may want to structure the source code in a cleaner manner

[normal kiln]

as of right now ... its all separated in a folder

so i could just ... slide the folder there

[jagged quarry]

generally i would say that it's unhelpful to separate types and structures

the types are typically going to be adjacent to something so they should belong to whatever they are adjacent to

[normal kiln]

the only thing that type is not a dependency is for locales ...

so i just ... referenced the path of types in tsconfig

[elfin ore]

I think the same, unless it's a very specific use-case... like multiple structures depend on it

[normal kiln]

for the other packages

[normal kiln]

yeah , in my case , on 4 package ... if we exclude types package , 3/4 depends on type package

[elfin ore]

Oh, wait... I think I misunderstood you. I thought you mean separating them in different files rather than packages

[normal kiln]

hold on imma do a tree

└── package/@lilly/
    ├── database/
    │   └── ...
    ├── locales/
    │   └── ...
    ├── services/
    │   └── ...
    ├── structure/
    │   ├── dist/
    │   │   ├── config/
    │   │   │   └── ...
    │   │   ├── enums/
    │   │   │   └── ...
    │   │   ├── index.d.ts
    │   │   └── index.js
    │   ├── src
    │   ├── package.json
    │   ├── tsconfig.json
    │   └── tsconfig.tsbuildinfo
    └── types/
        ├── dist
        ├── src
        ├── package.json
        ├── tsconfig.json
        └── tsconfig.tsbuildinfo```

that is right now

EZ solution -> Move enums into types

[elfin ore]

What is "structures" exactly?

[normal kiln]

this

[elfin ore]

Technically speaking structure (definitions) are types, that's why I'm confused

[normal kiln]

technically , i should rename it configurations instead of structure

[elfin ore]

Can you show me a snippet of a configuration so I know how they look?

[normal kiln]

export const ANIMAL_CONFIG: Record<availablePetsEnums, TAnimal> = {
  /** Domestic dog configuration */
  [availablePetsEnums.DOG]: {
    type: availablePetsEnums.DOG,
    category: AnimalCategoryEnums.DOMESTIC,
    defaultHunger: 100,
    defaultHappiness: 100,
    defaultHealth: 100,
  },
...

imagine this but that long

[elfin ore]

That is a type but I'm not sure if I would approach it like you did

[normal kiln]

usecase

it looks like a JSON thing actually because most of the data is hardcoded

but in a object , in a ts file

[elfin ore]

enum Pet {
  Dog,
  Cat,
  //...
}

enum PetCategory {
  Domestic
}

interface PetStats {
  hunger: number;
  health: number;
}

class PetUtils {
  static get_defaut_for_pet(pet: Pet) -> PetStats {
    switch(pet) {
      case Pet.Dog:
        return ({
          hunger: 100,
          health: 100
        });
      // should exhaust switch cases...
    }
  }

  static get_pet_category(pet: Pet) -> PetCategory {
    switch(pet) {
      case Pet.Dog:
        return PetCategory.Domestic;
      //...
    }
  }
}

if you want to avoid defining the data in the functions I guess you can use records to create relations, something like what you already have. But these records should probably be in a "data" package as they're not types but actual data structures

[normal kiln]

Classes , right..

i have none XD

[pulsar quarry]

💀 🙏

[normal kiln]

You see , i have a huge tendency of ... avoiding what im not used to do..
Classes .. maths... good code

yayyyy no more circular

now im at NORMAL problems

[long girder]

what's the point of the utils class instead of adding the method to Pet with switch (this)

[elfin ore]

Can enums have methods in typescript?

My bad, I didn't know that. It may be more clean that way

[jagged quarry]

cursed

[elfin ore]

I was thinking of something like Pet.DOG.get_default_stats(), API looks nice but it may be painful to maintain

[normal kiln]

it can , not directly

it technically can

thats kinda what i do ..
FOOD_CONFIG[type].price

i attach a data to a enum value

but this : FoodTypeEnums.BEEF.getPrice() nope

it would be nice if it could

but new Food(FoodTypeEnums.BEEF).price that you can , with a class

export const Food = {
  BEEF: {
    type: "beef",
    price: 22,
    getPrice() {
      return this.price;
    }
  }
} as const;```
this ...works... but cursed .. you kinda lose the benefits of a enum that way

[jagged quarry]

i've slowly become an enum hater over the years

[normal kiln]

i just like them because if you need to change the name of a enum you do it once , not everywhere it needs to be changed

sure a search find and replace works... but effort

[jagged quarry]

i've found the number of times i've needed to change the name of an enum to be negligible if ever

[normal kiln]

well , it also removes the human error of typos ..

[maiden raft]

But rust does this

[jagged quarry]

rust enums are not cursed

[maiden raft]

Tru

[earnest flume]

why does sending a message in ddevs gave me muted role

possibly bad automod config or im trippin

[hasty venture]

There’s a muted role? Thought you just get timed out

[hasty venture]

Oh damn

[earnest flume]

and now i have no idea how long it is

[hasty venture]

Maybe souji will spawn and say lol

[earnest flume]

cheen tapak dam dam

[vestal perch]

What did you say tho?

[amber spindle]

imagine being muted

how does one achieve that tho

[earnest flume]

it was about what ui should i use in slots container:

🍋 💎 🍒
🍒 🍒 🍒 - pay line
🍋 🍋 💎

or this:

[ ? ] [ ? ] [ ? ]

edits to:

[ 🍒 ] [ 🍒 ] [ 💎 ]

[jagged quarry]

gamba bad

[vestal perch]

Oh yeah that's a lot of emotes quite likely you tripped the "spam content" automod or whatever lol

[earnest flume]

"bad automod" eww

[amber spindle]

imagine emoji spamming

[earnest flume]

imagine being upside down

[jagged quarry]

you can probably just open a mod mail thread and they will unmute you

[amber spindle]

any server with mee6 gets mad at me for more than a few

[amber spindle]

if only discord staff could just wave their magic wand :)

[jagged quarry]

it's never about "can"

[normal kiln]

its about want

[earnest flume]

i'm not dming that BOT first at all, i'm afraid of discord's dumb "spam flag" thing

[jagged quarry]

bruh?

what in the misinformation

[amber spindle]

out of all things you do, thats the part that scares you?

[normal kiln]

😂

[earnest flume]

WHAT I DO

[amber spindle]

-# spam emojis smh

[normal kiln]

got muted in ddev thats what you did

[earnest flume]

and ye, getting spam flag is worst than anything

[earnest flume]

automod's fault

[normal kiln]

you fault

[earnest flume]

your cat's fault

[normal kiln]

your dad fault

[jagged quarry]

i mean ig you can just stay muted lol

i was just trying to give advice but you definitely don't have to take it

[earnest flume]

soujiii, im getting offended

[amber spindle]

what is it with ddevs not using modern discordness? like still !report and muted roles

[normal kiln]

souji doesnt give a damn trust me XD

[earnest flume]

souji's fault then actually

[jagged quarry]

if it isn't broken

[earnest flume]

👍

[amber spindle]

..fix it

[jagged quarry]

sure

[amber spindle]

:)

[normal kiln]

how much you pay appel for that

[amber spindle]

i mean if its not broken, rewrite it in rust

[amber spindle]

-# its not about the money

[normal kiln]

i mean .... appel doesnt work for free so .. kinda ??

[jagged quarry]

what are you talking about

[normal kiln]

nothing we can move on

[jagged quarry]

ok lol

[amber spindle]

1+1=11, next topic

[vestal perch]

2+2=🐟

[normal kiln]

its clearly a window

[mental stirrup]

no it's 6 coz the government-

[amber spindle]

so 1+1 = half fishy?

[normal kiln]

black the number
red the +
orange the =

1+1= window

[amber spindle]

so 1+1 is macrohard?

-# ie microslop the makers of copilot

[barren grove]

hallo

[amber spindle]

[limpid osprey]

Pallo

[elfin ore]

The only thing I may criticize is that they can't be used as bitflags without writing a bunch of boilerplate

[lilac cloak]

my complaint is just that it's annoying when i want something with many variants but also properties common among all of those variants

like i've been tinkering with a programming language interpreter, and the Tokens that my lexer spews out both need to have variants but also common properties like the index in the source code that a token is from for error reporting

in addition to a few variant-specific properties like a parsed number value for number tokens

and i have to add extra nesting to make it work unless i want to add those properties to every single enum variant

maybe a small complaint but there's just quite a bit of repetition i have to do

i do still love rust and its enums for the most part, it's just a bit tedious sometimes

it could also just be that i'm structuring my code badly or expecting too much

idk man coding is hard

[normal kiln]

only 1 error before seeing my terminal empty

[elfin ore]

"If you close the terminal the error will be gone" - Syn

[normal kiln]

true

its just something that returns null in the Db , probably nothing serious

something something type null

[long girder]

oh i forgot ts doesn't let you

[elfin ore]

Oh, I see

[normal kiln]

cursed way

yes , ive been playing for fun just to see if i could

FoodTypeEnums gets typed as

enum FoodTypeEnums
namespace FoodTypeEnums

[long girder]

but that's not a method

[normal kiln]

getprice() isnt ?

[long girder]

no that's a function

[normal kiln]

a method is a type of a function , shush

[long girder]

🥀

[normal kiln]

getprice(foodtypeenumshereblablabla) i would say thats a function , because it got called on nothing ..

what i mean

[long girder]

but you're using a namespace not a class

[normal kiln]

so... you want a example with a class ?

ill found a way

[long girder]

no i'm saying if you used a class it would be a method but right now it's a function

i hate the new discord minigame

i'm 25/26 achievements and the last one is just rng

[normal kiln]

i mean , now you would call it directly on the class , which was not the point right ?

eitherway , calling a function on a enum is cursed.. 😂

[long girder]

yeah that wouldn't really make it better

but all other languages allow it so i forgot that ts doesn't

[neat patrol]

which one

[long girder]

gigabrain

oop nvm i got it just now

holy lucky

[normal kiln]

...rah

[neat patrol]

i don't even see that achievement

[long girder]

yeah it's one of the secret achievements

you need to finish the match 3 minigame without any errors

[oblique heart]

who needs a website for their bot 🥹🤞

[barren grove]

for free??

[oblique heart]

it would violate the rules if I were to disclose i think

dm me

[barren grove]

then no, go away

[oblique heart]

poor ahh 😭✌️

[barren grove]

even if i was, i would still say no

[oblique heart]

your choice

[barren grove]

you bet it is

[long girder]

i think before i need a website i need a bot first

[oblique heart]

🤔

i didnt think of that

[barren grove]

vc session again!!

[normal kiln]

Tell me how to host a website for you and I can do something xD I need a reason of turning on my computer / nas / server

[barren grove]

i can help with that lol

[normal kiln]

You have the knowledge , I have the hardware … something can be done xD

[barren grove]

i have both!

[normal kiln]

Lucky you

[barren grove]

apple juic

[dry compass]

Happy birthday @tulip crag !!

All the Germans born around the same time smh

[normal kiln]

they got bored in the summer

[indigo verge]

embeds not working
they say in an embed
I'm genuinely confused, is that just some embeds?

oh is it like open graph embeds?

[normal kiln]

in 2 hours its emi , so ... not all germans XD

well... 2 hours for me in EST timezone

[dry compass]

Ooh happy birthday @lusty trellis 💖💖💖💖💖

What happens 9 months ago on this day. Damn

[normal kiln]

August was pretty boring

[dry compass]

International have sex day

Long man

[normal kiln]

long poof of fur

or long foof of purr.. ?

Long living Anti anxiety medication that goes purr purr XD

[dry compass]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[zinc hedge]

longboi

[normal kiln]

man im searching for something that ... its almost impossible to find now a days and i used to find it easily back then like... decade ago

well decades ago actually , 21 years old

....the price...

[zinc hedge]

🏴‍☠️

[normal kiln]

theres a reason of why i said its almost impossible to find now a days XD

i cant even find a torrent for it

or if i find , theres 0 / 0

[torn stone]

6/0 4/0

[normal kiln]

where ?

[torn stone]

usual place

[normal kiln]

great.

[torn stone]

the sounds a cat makes

[normal kiln]

the one that shutted down like 8 years ago ?

ohhh its still alive

well now i need to find the subtitles

[normal kiln]

thanks btw !

i tend to forget how big these can be ..

[torn stone]

what are you on lol

[normal kiln]

oh i just search naruto

[torn stone]

also theyre subbed

cus it says sub on them

[normal kiln]

6% remaining , we will see , the movie is subbed at least

ah , the one i found arent XD

doesnt really matter i know the story by heart at that point

[normal kiln]

i need to stop imma bust my storage of stuff that i havent watched in decades lol

[raven sentinel]

if they start making anime in 4K i'm gonna go bankrupt from storage costs

[copper jacinth]

wtf youre in this server?

[raven sentinel]

of course

[copper jacinth]

i mean... fair...

[raven sentinel]

i could say the same about you

[copper jacinth]

i do the bot coding sometimes... i was a JS kiddie before i was a go enjoyer

[raven sentinel]

why not typescript

[zinc hedge]

TypeScript is just painful JavaScript

[vestal perch]

Oh henlo~

[raven sentinel]

hey naomi, didnt realize you were here

[vestal perch]

I am! Though I'm sure people wish I wasn't~

[copper jacinth]

we love that youre here

[raven sentinel]

i'm sure that's not true!!

[raven sentinel]

typescript is javascript's redemption arc

[zinc hedge]

JavaScript can't be redeemed

TypeScript is C#'s decent into madness

[vestal perch]

Can confirm

[raven sentinel]

[vestal perch]

I tried to redeem one JavaScript to get my sanity back and they said no~

[raven sentinel]

tell me i didnt just hear typescript compared to c#

[cold jasper]

i didnt just hear typescript compared to c#

[raven sentinel]

thank you

[cold jasper]

No problem

[zinc hedge]

you did

TypeScript is Microsoft's sorely misguided attempt to apply C# type system to the chaotic anarchy of JS

[raven sentinel]

i would say that the type system in typescript is much more C++ inspired

[lilac cloak]

MADELINEEEEE

hi

i haven't used c#, i could prob write a hello world or work through a unity tutorial but that's about it, i do quite like typescript's type system tho

i think it is often used in ways it shouldn't be used, its capabilities should not always be seen as an invitation to write manmade horrors beyond any developer's comprehension

i really like tagged unions tho

[lusty trellis]

Daaaanke

[elfin ore]

Happy birthday!

[rocky furnace]

hey madeline! nice seeing you here as well!

and happy birthday emi! hope you enjoy your day!

[echo tapir]

what? based on what lmao

[raven sentinel]

hi!!

[raven sentinel]

you too!

[raven sentinel]

extremely flexible generics, type metaprogramming, emphasis on types being contracts at compile time, not rigid class definitions

[echo tapir]

all of which exists in C# as well

minus that there's some runtime type enforcement there

the generic stuff doesn't even make sense. C++ generics aren't really generics

[raven sentinel]

i disagree there

[echo tapir]

C# isn't missing anything you can do with typescript ones

well you can disagree but like

its true

any instantiation of a C++ generic is just copy pasting the input type into the class on every occurrence

its completely different from what TS and C# do

in fact, C# has type erasure for its generics

[elfin ore]

CPP approach to generics is cursed, templates along a few other bullshit they did to the spec was what encouraged me to move into Rust

[strong valve]

dw ai is probably going to slaughter the pipeline for new c++ developers

and then c++ will die a slow death

[echo tapir]

rust generics work the same way though just that the syntax semantics weren't designed by someone insane

it still even introduces the same problem of absurd amounts of needed monomorphization

[elfin ore]

Oh, I meant the cpp templates semantics/syntax

[echo tapir]

then yea sure

they did great

[elfin ore]

Rust approaches it more efficiently than templates too, lemme look up the forums discussion

Oh, CPP added the templates constraints in cpp20

The resolution is still expensive tho as they're not predictable

[vale merlin]

bzzbzz

[atomic monolith]

@echo tapir The resolvers package is a blessing, I love it

[echo tapir]

im glad

[royal meteor]

Does anyone here know how to receive the voice-status on discord? I see some servers have it, others dont

[barren grove]

morning

[limpid osprey]

morning-morning

[ripe pumice]

you mean the text under the VC name?

[royal meteor]

^

[limpid osprey]

mafia bro, do you code for arduino stuffs too?

[ripe pumice]

discord has not documented the API for status and is not supported by djs at this time

[ripe pumice]

I could if I wanted. Why do you ask

[royal meteor]

So its solely a beta feature or something? Considered i see some servers have it, others dont

[ripe pumice]

IDK best to ask on DDevs

[limpid osprey]

I start to watch some tutorial for making code for line follower car, i did not find any efficient video......
Just asked did you learned self or ... smth else

[ripe pumice]

https://projecthub.arduino.cc/lightthedreams/line-following-robot-34b1d3

[limpid osprey]

ok thanks

[split linden]

and once that works, participate in micromouse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQbHMgK2rw

[ripe pumice]

very good video.

[limpid osprey]

[limpid osprey]

amazing

i am at my very low level, i dont think...... i can reach that level...

[upbeat gust]

who wants cookie?

[barren grove]

meeee

[amber spindle]

[barren grove]

[tawdry talon]

[earnest flume]

.

[lilac cloak]

ok so when im importing leveling data from a user-provided csv file, is there any decent way to check that all the user ids are real uesrs (even if that user has left and not yet rejoined the server), or do i just have to either impose the limit of only importing present members or just hope that no one tries to abuse it by importing a bunch of fake members

[neat patrol]

the only way to know if the set of 17 to 19 digits is a real snowflake is to try and use it as such

[junior idol]

just hope that no one tries to abuse it
I would say always assume everyone will try to abuse everything. You can never trust users.

[lilac cloak]

yea hence why i'm leaning towards just not allowing servers to import data for users who aren't in the server

[junior idol]

I guess the question is what is the worst that could happen? What happens if someone imports users that don't exist?

[lilac cloak]

waste of database space

[junior idol]

So it's not detremental then, just a few kilobytes/megabytes of extra data

or if you don't want people to edit the exports at all, encrypt them with a private key and then decrypt on import. That way any edits would (likely) break the import

[lilac cloak]

i don't wanna do that

[junior idol]

well, you reap what you sow

[lilac cloak]

i import and export as csv files in order to make it as easy as possible to bulk edit xp data with something like excel and to make it as easy as possible to switch to or even from my bot without some proprietary format that isn't compatible with anything

i'm tempted to limit imports to only members present in the server for non premium guilds tho, so abusing it requires paying me a little bit first

[tropic cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-want-me-to-say-hello-for-you-hello-hi-greetings-whats-up-gif-15122405

[barren grove]

and that was 5 days ago

[normal kiln]

and pinged ... 🤦‍♂️

[sinful swan]

Where's my cookie

[normal kiln]

Bro that was like almost 24 hours ago...

[sinful swan]

That was 9 hours ago

I still want my cookie 😹

[normal kiln]

oh , right ive read AM for some reasons...

Still... XD 9 hours ago

[sinful swan]

Where the cookie, is he left us like my dad

[long hawk]

Browser cookies?

[sinful swan]

Real cookies

[long hawk]

Anything can be real if you use your imagination

[sinful swan]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-spongebob-spongebob-imagination-imagine-spongebob-meme-gif-5431877888904974806

[warm saffron]

This is how I got a gf

[upbeat gust]

I’ve sent it via mail to you

[merry abyss]

how can i get sponsor role

[copper jacinth]

https://opencollective.com/discordjs

[midnight bay]

Hello,
I would like to report an unwanted DM from @desert forge
Thank you

[zinc hedge]

Cool, use /report

[upbeat gust]

hello

[south hawk]

space

[ruby holly]

i have a question about discordjs/discord-api-types where do i put it

[zinc hedge]

#986520997006032896 is fine

[zinc hedge]

Wasn't planning to, no

[zinc hedge]

@candid tide @hallow grotto I feel like we need our Marvel thread back because holy shit that Daredevil episode

[candid tide]

Don't we have create thread perms

[split linden]

(if you don't, lmk, but you should - literally everyone even, irrc)

[zinc hedge]

Probably do yeah

[candid tide]

Marvel is BACK

[split linden]

i assume that's spoilers? if so we should prob. delete the message with the preview of the latest message in the thread

[candid tide]

we use spoiler tags for recent stuff

nothing in there yet though

[sinful swan]

[raven sentinel]

it's trivially easy, no need to even encrypt/decrypt, just do a checksum on the file and verify it when they send it back

[lilac cloak]

you miss part of the point

i don't want the file to be encrypted because i want it to be easy for users to put it into a spreadsheet or their own program or whatever and bulk modify the leveling data

and i don't want to be that kind of dev that uses encrypted/proprietary stuff to lock users into my product by making it hard to switch away

[wind wedge]

hey, i have a question

im making an open source bot, currently it stores channel ids and role ids the old fashioned way, in a a file in a config folder, would it not be a good idea to store the values in a database? instead of a file?

[atomic monolith]

Always use a proper ACID compliant DB. If you want something file based go with sqlite, or PostgreSQL otherwise

[wind wedge]

im currently using mysql

i have a case id system for moderational commands, giveaways etc so it wouldnt be too hard to implement

[atomic monolith]

I'd still recommend you switch to postgres. Postgres is by far the most performant and mature db in my opinion

[wind wedge]

does it make a major difference? when i have some spare time i might go research it some more

[atomic monolith]

It depends on the type of data you store. Mysql struggles with complex joins/queries, full text search, etc. Postgres has the added benefits of JSON data, which you might find useful down the road as your project grows

Postgres also has better data integrity constraints which you may or may not find useful

[lilac cloak]

what's the difference between storing json directly vs just stringified json?

currently im using sqlite because it was the easiest to set up but it doesn't exactly have a lot of data types for me to mess with

[teal pendant]

You can directly query json(b) and do all sort of stuff with it instead of just text operations.

[lilac cloak]

like could i search for records whose json has a specific value in a key?

[atomic monolith]

JSON as a data type is queryable, structured, indexable, and validated by the db

Stringified JSON is just text, no indexing, no validation, not really queryable

[lilac cloak]

hm

tempting

[wind wedge]

i mean you can more or less do that anywhere, i currently have the specific userid as the key to 60% of the related stuff to the user

but i hate databases with a passion

[atomic monolith]

Databases are a very interesting topic. I like talking about them

[lilac cloak]

i simply do not understand the process of setting up a postgres server

why do i even need a password

i'll forget it

[atomic monolith]

Then again I primarily work on databases so its not really a surprise

[atomic monolith]

So people don't have unauthorized access to your DB?

[lilac cloak]

it's on my password locked computer

[wind wedge]

why do you need a password to your computer

password to your phone

its in your pocket or house 🤷‍♀️

[worthy pulsar]

for some people their computer is accessible via the internet and is located in a big datacenter

[atomic monolith]

(Aka a server)

[worthy pulsar]

also you dont need a pg server password

[lilac cloak]

if someone can access my computer in such a way that they have direct access to the files that my database is made up of then that's not ideal

[worthy pulsar]

i dont

its terrible practice tho dont do what i do im just a lazy bastard

[lilac cloak]

i'm also lazy i want to be lazy

[worthy pulsar]

then just dont set one its probably Fine™

[lilac cloak]

ok

[wind wedge]

still bad pratice

[worthy pulsar]

#general message

[wind wedge]

theres a difference between being a "lazy bastard" and giving out bad advice

[worthy pulsar]

i think that the chance that this person later exposes their database to the internet or some kind of other vector is vanishingly small

[warm orbit]

prisma.io creates free postgres databases on their servers if you run a simple command in terminal

| npx create-db
| pnpm dlx create-db
| yarn dlx create-db
| bun --bun create-db

[worthy pulsar]

altho yes this is bad advice and you really should Just Set A Password

its like not that much effort and you can still be lazy by having one pg user for all ur shit (altho this too is bad advice, just marginally less so)

[wind wedge]

but over time, if they follow the mindset that you "dont need to set a password" it will still end up causing more bad habbits in the future

[worthy pulsar]

yeah but i think its fine to tell someone they can do something in a dogshit way if you make it clear that that way is dogshit

[wind wedge]

do you usually give out bad advice and say "the chances are small so its good"

[worthy pulsar]

although they do say theres nothing more permanent than a temporary fix

[worthy pulsar]

no i say the chances are small so its passable

[candid tide]

do you also leave your bank account unlocked

[lilac cloak]

listen man i just want a working db

[candid tide]

i just want easy access to cash

[lilac cloak]

my database and surrounding code has yet to show any correlation to real world monetary value

[elfin ore]

Time is money

Trust me, you can't ever be so sure you didn't do an oopsie and left a vulnerable surface available for attacks. In case you particularly retain user-data in the database consider following security recommendations/guidelines

[south hawk]

[barren grove]

[earnest flume]

meow

[nimble gyro]

Hi guys, Could you send me the documentation on how to add a button or dropdown menu to an embedded menu?

[tribal glen]

Display Components
While you might be familiar with embeds in Discord, there are more ways to style and format your apps messages using display components, a comprehensive set of layout and content elements. To use the display components, you need to pass the IsComponentsV2 message flag (in docs: MessageFlags) when sending a message. You only need to use this flag when sending a message using the display components system, not when deferring interaction responses.

[nimble gyro]

thanks dude @copper jacinth

[lilac cloak]

embedded menu? do you mean modals (popup menus that cover the screen)? or message components (buttons and menus and stuff embedded into actual messages)?

modals can have select (dropdown) menus, text inputs, file uploads, and checkboxes / radio buttons, but they cant have normal action-y buttons

message components (aka "display components" can have select menus and buttons, as linked above

[lilac cloak]

that would be message components, so the guide linked above is what you want

[sinful lichen]

dyu have docker installed? Run postgres in a docker container

Or you can use something like DBngin to set up a local db for you

Datagrip is great if you want to view your database in a nice GUI and write queries

[lilac cloak]

i tried to figure out postgres with docker

i got too confused

[sinful lichen]

download a postgres image and click the play button. The images tab should he on the left in the app

[warm orbit]

services:
  postgres:
    image: postgres:16-alpine
    restart: always
    environment:
      POSTGRES_USER: -changeme-
      POSTGRES_PASSWORD: ${POSTGRES_PASSWORD}
      POSTGRES_DB: -changeme-
    ports:
      - "5432:5432"
    volumes:
      - ./pg_data:/var/lib/postgresql/data
    healthcheck:
      test: ["CMD-SHELL", "pg_isready -U -changeme-"]
      interval: 10s
      timeout: 5s
      retries: 5

[sinful lichen]

or use a compose file. Yea

[lilac cloak]

the volumes thing kinda just bamboozled me

for that and also how to store log files

[warm orbit]

volumes:

• outside-container:inside-container

[amber spindle]

if you are using docker for same app, then use unix socket edition instead of tcp frfr

[bold patrol]

hm

[twilit jackal]

Um minino sonhador

[sinful swan]

[glad eagle]

Hmm

[normal kiln]

heyo

[normal kiln]

...Why apple doesnt let me share a folder of music through Apple Music T_T ...

we can through playlist but not through folders full of playlist >_>

[sinful swan]

use android

[normal kiln]

nah

and that doesnt solves the thing anyway

[brave zephyr]

i use apple music on android now what

[normal kiln]

Suffer through bugs because Apple music doesnt support android ? and if it does its not maintained ? XD

[brave zephyr]

the apple music experience on android is better than apple music on ios, or spotify on both platforms lol

its honestly an incredibly good android app given it's made by apple

[normal kiln]

Ah

TIL

on Windows it BEGINS to be good

never had problems on iOS tho

but yeah the fact that we cant share or add someone to a folder sucks

its so neatly organized that i dont want to touch it XD

1 playlist per genre

[lofty cairn]

Do you sleep lilly

[normal kiln]

i dont

[lofty cairn]

Makes sense why I see u in chat always

[normal kiln]

xD

[copper jacinth]

sleep is for the weak

-# and i am weak

[normal kiln]

im about to soon honestly

[lofty cairn]

[normal kiln]

im clearly a weak with my sleeps of 12 hours on the weekends lol

can go up to 16 sometimes depending on how much sleep deprived i am XD

not long ago i did a 48 hours straight , husband was looking on me to see if i was still alive

i go work with 2-4 hours of sleep , get my day through cafeine , and im awake from like 7AM to something about 2-4 AM ...

past a certain hour of the day im just... not sleepy anymore

Sleepy window past im awake and good luck sleeping lol

i still surprise me to sleep through my alarm which is ... surprising when you know on what i wake up to

[cold jasper]

Nuclear alarm

[normal kiln]

Endzeit - Heaven shall burn

https://music.apple.com/ca/album/endzeit/1045636365?i=1045636447 This

[cold jasper]

That title enough seems like enough of a descriptor to what your ears endure

[normal kiln]

i sleep through that and the phone is right on my ears when i sleep

[cold jasper]

Should try the Apple Radar sound, I've used it enough to where I slightly scare myself whenever I hear it unexpectedly, thinking I need to wake up

[normal kiln]

funny thing is , i wake up if my son decides to go downstairs , but i still sleep through SCREAMINGS on my phone

fucking mom brain or what ever

movement - baby - wake up ...
screaming to death in my ears .... sleep through

maybe my brain is expecting that screaming and i actually need to change my alarm

[cold jasper]

Make a contraption that shakes your bed violently as an alarm

[normal kiln]

oh boi

i will prefer to wake up to songs that kills my braincell , like Barney the dinosaure

or AI generated song

[cold jasper]

Moderator Magic

[normal kiln]

https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/theres-only-one-braincell-functionning/pl.u-oZylD0YCGgermXx i have a whole playlist of music that can kill your braincell XD

[normal kiln]

i dont have it on Apple music but it would be GREAT to have it

[cold jasper]

You should be able to import it I think as an alarm with Garage Band

At least that's what I did for a custom ringtone

[normal kiln]

yeah ... that implies to connect my phone on pc...... lolll

its not that i dont want to ... its just... far

[cold jasper]

I didn't have to do it

[normal kiln]

the music is on my pc only

[cold jasper]

Oh

[normal kiln]

if you want the music tho i can re-share here

i have 2 actually

Moderator magic being the best of the 2 lol

Ohhhhhhhhh XD

roooohhhhhhhhhh cant share

hahaha it imported the lyrics XD

at least now i have them to play in the car 👀

[hallow grotto]

whats the tea with integration tests for djs these days