Battlegroup 12 - Iron Hammer: Comms

[hazy radish]

the 3rd ifv has no autocannon lol

but that works yeah

so this ?

[old lark]

I still think it would be better to have something with hits and armor surrounding the logi. Keep in mind what happened to Storm as they were dropping: the bots can manipulate positioning to focus fire any unit on the outside, so "at the rear" isn't the same as "safe"

[fluid viper]

I tried that got voted down.

The Gamer tactic is just Logi in the back

[left thistle]

Tho I agree w you Adam, I think the vtols would be tanky enough to survive an ambush.

[hazy radish]

Especially if we're at the edge of a map...

I mean, if we're at the edge of a map starting

could always aim for this

sorry, aim for this*

[left thistle]

If we position them on the wings of the rear

[iron arrow]

i'll worry about my order tomorrow but what are we doing

[hazy radish]

CROSSROADS BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

going to L-H

then crossroads

so right now we're figuring out how do we formation

so far: we've only agreed on logi in the back, light mechs in the front 🤣

[muted eagle]

Right, I'm off to play d&d

see you all later

[hazy radish]

cya!

[iron arrow]

bye vivian

but do we know like how we even leave besides declaring Hmm yes we leave now

i assumed we'd have to spend awhile moving to the edge of the map

[glad hedge]

I see the gambling machine is being used a lot
Excellent

[iron arrow]

but that would take so long

[hazy radish]

"yes we leave now"

[rough granite]

what happend

[hazy radish]

Shack said earlier we are considered on strategic map and we can just leave since no hostiles

[muted eagle]

Seeing if the mechs are willing to go ahead infront of the group

[iron arrow]

oh

[hazy radish]

We are wondering "what the hell are we doing formation wise", and are seeing if you'd be up with your light mech to go evasive in front ?

Alongside the other light mech ?

[hazy radish]

so, like this

or like this, even further beyond

[rough granite]

im up for it

gest tell me were and who to shoot

[hazy radish]

where: L-H
who to shoot: the meanie bots

got it ?

[rough granite]

what does {L-H} mean

[muted eagle]

Dunno what it means

But it's pretty much just the path between Elim and Crossroads

[left thistle]

The nav point between us and crossroads

[rough granite]

"As long as I get paid and rightfully praised as the hero I am, I'll do any, thing" he says in a haughty tone

[left thistle]

Hail the great hero Red Knight!
-# that good enough?

[fluid viper]

Do we know what the 3 regions are about (the colored backgrounds?)

Yellow, brown, green?

[left thistle]

Oh wow, didn’t notice that at all

[hazy radish]

think that's for speed needed to go through

maybe ?

or maybe not idk

[winter dragon]

It could be difficulty

[old lark]

They count for strategic speed: it takes speed 3 to get from one side of elim to the other on the stratmap (I guess technically 2. 3 speed to get out from the west side)

For some reason

[steady zephyr]

So seems like I have to read here since you are also going to Cross Roads.
How is the casino going?

[muted eagle]

Hmm... That gives me an idea... We should obviously build a casino in the middle of the crossroads

[hazy radish]

Good good.

We're trying to hammer down "how to formation"

...we've only agreed on 2 things so far...

so, yeah.

[south ether]

threed things

[hazy radish]

Honnestly think this might be our best bet for a formation, trying to get this together and take advantage of the map edge 🧠

in any case, i gotta go to the gym boys

[fluid viper]

Circles on a map is really theoretical

[hazy radish]

I'll get golden muscles by the time this campaign ends hopefully :P

[fluid viper]

Not really actionable

[hazy radish]

Yes, it's just for placing units in a circle-y manner

Not perfect, but y'know, minecraft-style.

[fluid viper]

I would prefer to make a concise map for moving so for possibly the next 2-3 turns until contact we have "move in formation" and Shack can just select drag the whole group

[hazy radish]

Yes, that's the idea

This is just rough drawing so we can then place units good

[fluid viper]

Not something relying on game mechanics like map edges

[hazy radish]

like imagine making the formation with units one by one then i come in or vivian or anyone else and say "no actually i no likey"

this is why rough drawing

[hazy radish]

OH

yeah that makes sense he might not put us exactly on the map edge

i'll be back in a few hours, hopefully we'll have everything mulled over by then

(even if we technically still have 24+ more hours, better now then later)

cya boys

[south ether]

i assume crossroads via L-H?

[muted eagle]

Yep

[thorn sand]

Why, hello there~

Also, for the purposes of the planning that was going on above I can only take one small supply.

[muted eagle]

There we go, we have 3 furries, Iron Hammers is officially a furry BG

[fluid viper]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-toy-story-buzz-lightyear-gif-14664723

[atomic basalt]

This is definitely my hubris speaking but the bots don't seem to have any fast flanking units besides orbital assets or possible hidden emplacements so I'm all for having armor in the front for a big spearhead

[muted eagle]

Barely an hour in and we've murdered a noble and a duodrone

[left thistle]

Uhhh killing a modron… that definitely won’t have consequences

[muted eagle]

In my defense, it attacked me first

And why not make more things angry at me while I'm at it?

[left thistle]

Fair enough 😂

[south ether]

so how are we going to build a cassino in crosroads?

[muted eagle]

I already have an ancient dragon that really doesn't like me after I tried to get my fellow kobolds to revolt against it in my backstory

[fluid viper]

Your GM is incredible. Modrons are such a rare opponent to face

[muted eagle]

It wasn't the GM, it was wild magic

[charred swift]

I like it, if that's what you want just send me a "write it like this" and you got it

[thorn sand]

Well, the boots are apparently building something big in crossroads already, so why don’t we just capture and convert that?

[south ether]

hmm could work, just need to do some remoldeling than saves money

[thorn sand]

Boots is intentional

Makes the casino more immediately profitable.

[south ether]

we just need some errm targets to clean out

[left thistle]

Even better

[solar bear]

@left thistle Are you infantry Brass??

[muted eagle]

Wild magic is great

It can cause so much bad stuff, but also so much good stuff

[left thistle]

Technically I’m Cr0wn, but yes the dug in “Brass” you see on the NE side of the hill is me

[solar bear]

Shack did a upsy?? kkk

[muted eagle]

He did A LOT of them

[solar bear]

kkkkkkkkk

[muted eagle]

Hopefully next round won't be so bad

In terms of mistakes, that is

[left thistle]

My next dnd character is going to be a wild magic sorcerer specifically bc of this
-# that and I feel like I need to make up for all the times I was a min-maxer in my earilier dnd days

[left thistle]

Hopefully, because the bgs are all spread out over different maps. It’ll be a little easier for him to keep track of who is who

[muted eagle]

Yeah

[narrow pine]

@rigid oar Looks like theres something to the west there.
I'd like some backup. Shouldn't be to hard to handle.

[muted eagle]

I think the only time I tried to min-max on the very first one-shot I played

[rough granite]

by the why i dont see my self on the map

[muted eagle]

I think he removed some of them because of how cramped it is

[left thistle]

That or he just forgot lol. There were some oopsies on the map this time

[rigid oar]

My troops are with you. We will watch your back if you take point!

[narrow pine]

I guess I'm in this battlegroup for a second.
Is it Task Force then Battlegroup?

[feral ivy]

Kilo on hand ready and willing to assist

[left thistle]

Um not to rain on the parade, but I think the new Iron Hammer plan is to immediately set off for Crossroads 😅

[narrow pine]

They cloned me lol. 😅

[solar bear]

Just remember that we are not staying...

[left thistle]

-# that one’s me lol

[rigid oar]

Oh I see. I won’t be able to support if iron hammer plans to move out.

[narrow pine]

I should have this covered. Go where you feel.

[solar bear]

Storm and Redwall are staying on Elim so you are good...

[rigid oar]

Sorry if I dashed your hopes I haven’t really been looking at chat today. Also yeah I will be sticking with my BG. They supported my crazy plan to airdrop on top of the enemy so we are bonded by blood… and gambling I guess.

[solar bear]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[narrow pine]

I'm with ya for paradropping.

Now I just have to figure out where I go after day 5.

[rigid oar]

Fair. Also @left thistle Is the orders just “move in formation” to show that im following the BG to the next map?

[narrow pine]

I think I'm moving on my own, but that should be okay.

[left thistle]

Yep! Something along the lines of “move in formation to nav point L-H”

[solar bear]

Yes, but I would recommend you to find a transport so we can move more quickly to the next point...

[rigid oar]

Is their a place that shows what transports are still available or do I just ask around?

[solar bear]

Ask around... I'm aready moving @left thistle but we have two others IFVs, one logi and 3 VTOLs...

[fluid viper]

We were doing infantry in IFVs first.

Y'all can jump out and dig in right away when an IFV pulls up to a spot for a lot of firepower in one spot.

I think we are stuck with 3 people hoofing it though with Logi pulling supplies and us waiting for @lost elk to be able to rejoin.

[solar bear]

@left thistle #1385617845831995402 message Order posted...

[left thistle]

Will get mine in soon!

[thorn sand]

Hey @odd lake since we’re moving out this turn, once you’re done resupplying the engineers would you be willing to hitch my artillery?

[odd lake]

yes let me redo the order, want to be hitched in before or after I resupply the engies?

[fluid viper]

Hey French were you wanting to do the map or should I try making it again?

[hazy radish]

UwU

[hazy radish]

Light mechs on board for being evasive spearhead, check

[hazy radish]

Sir we're leaving

[hazy radish]

Nonono, you keep in the taskforce. 🤣

[hazy radish]

Well, do we have any kind of agreement for the formation ? 😅

I'm just back now, I can only remember we agreed on light mech + consent
IFVs in the middle-ish
Hvtol/logi/arty in the back

vtol, infantry and mbts are in the air

[hazy radish]

Might be the case yeah.

Seeing the bots as they were described in midrounds by shack, they just go in a straight line to their objective like dumdums

But will it be the case of all bots ? No one knows.

And I'm all caught up !

[muted eagle]

UwU

[hazy radish]

Rawr, x3 nuzzles you so warm

🤣

[thorn sand]

Whichever works best for you. I’m just along for the ride.

[fluid viper]

You think any of us talked about formations when you left?

We are not that productive French

[hazy radish]

...oh

ah...

I believed okay guys ? 😅

We were very productive the 4 hours before the deadline of turn 4...

@tawny arch

Not for now Yakove, just, so anyone else then me can remember your name if I ever need help with vivian and adam and all you guys again 😅

I'm on board to get the most volunteers I can get.

Talking of which, fancy being a tac-com aswell @fluid viper ?

[fluid viper]

If you wanna give me the name go ahead

[hazy radish]

Bet, you're secondary tac-com with vivian now.

Gg wp.

poggies

RIGHT, so

@fluid viper whaddya think of that ?

[fluid viper]

It works pretty well. My only preference is the Logi is more central but we agreed that isn't happening.

[hazy radish]

(you can also add it in your name if you can fit it, somehow)

[hazy radish]

Yeah, a good compromise of both our ideas for MBTs

...hm

I can only feel like this the orange weak boys feel far away from this

lemme sketch something up...

[tawny arch]

👍

[hazy radish]

That also just made me think, is the hvtol transporting no one then ?

Is that a good idea ?

WAIT

CANT THE HVTOL TRANSPORT THE ARTY ???

big brain energy right here

[neat fossil]

yeah, but logi trucks can tow the arty too, doesn't take up a slot either.

[hazy radish]

oh

true.

[neat fossil]

imo, I think keeping the HVTOL to pull out immobilised units might be a good idea.

[hazy radish]

yeah but how would @simple elm feel about not transporting anyone while we're movin' ?

[hazy radish]

I like that idea too, but I like to hear what our resident HVTOL think.

While I'm at it

[fluid viper]

This is perfect

[hazy radish]

Hello Iron Hammer !

Quick pin to get everyone updates for now:
We have decided thanks to the previous poll to go to L-H and then crossroads !

Thus, we need a formation that we are discussing currently.
To note: For your order, you will be able to do healing, load, unload, whatever, and then we can strategically move to L-H.
Once the formation completed, it will be pinned, and you will be just able to say in your order "Following Iron Hammer formation" with a link to the pin, or a reference to the pin, to make it clear for me we're talking about the same stuff lol.

That's all for now boys !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

[hazy radish]

Oh right when I was putting in a message for pinning lol

Well, you're up for mapping it out ?

I also noticed a bunch of orders talking about the formation already very nice

[fluid viper]

Yeah I can get it out tonight. It is pretty late for you at this point right?

[hazy radish]

Meh, the usual

It's more that i'd like to use that time to be able to make some editing...

I have some video editing due in 5 days, and, uh, I'm like, 10% of the way done.

[fluid viper]

Yeah I will make a layout of the formation

[hazy radish]

It's just that between armco (turn 4 😭), the gym, events with friends, I haven't been able to get work done...

[hazy radish]

Thanks

I'll get myself a bite to eat and I'll be on editing, ping me when you've got it finished and i'll take a lookie

[simple elm]

Sorry for taking an hour, but I'm 50/50 on being held in reserve

[hazy radish]

Hm. 🤔

While it does give you a job if you transport an mbt or an ifv
It does make us less weak if we deploy and get nearly instantly attacked

especially since, no nestling, so ifv will be without any cargo

[simple elm]

tbh?

[hazy radish]

I highlighted you could take the arty, but the logi can just aswell.

[simple elm]

Actually, how much infantry do we have?

[hazy radish]

4 infantry, 1 ODT

[simple elm]

Just the one?

Ah

[hazy radish]

3 infantry, if you do not count the one that has been inactive turn 1

[simple elm]

Would you argue the ODT would benefit the most from the added mobility of being loaded on a VTOL?

Because I figure instead of one big column, we could pull a tank and a majority of infantry to act as a mobile reserve

[hazy radish]

ODT = Infantry

only difference is, ODT can drop from orbital pods, and has 5 FS

[fluid viper]

We have 9-10 people that need rides (not counting arty) We have 6 slots between VTOLs and IFVs for infantry.

We always have 1-3 units walking.

[hazy radish]

"IM WALKIN' HERE"

[odd lake]

I gave Adam 2 supply, so i have a spot for 1 INF

[fluid viper]

My sinister plans of having a cage fight to eliminate at least 1 infantry failed. Now we gotta walk

[odd lake]

assuming it isnt 6FS

[fluid viper]

We can chuck the non-combat engineers in there so we can unhitch and entrench the gun all at once.

Put combat engineer in a VTOL to help infantry faster.

[hazy radish]

Sadly, I think you need to get rid of 5 supply to be able to get an infantry with you

[thorn sand]

I count four support units and four main inf types that need transport, we have the HVTOL three VTOLS, 3 IFVs and a logi truck. If Ran can take an inf unit while towing me then we should be fully motorized (if that other INF unit stays inactive) no?

[hazy radish]

So, you don't have 8 supplies

In reality, technically, you have 2 cargo slots
1 with 5 supply
2nd with 3 supplies

[simple elm]

So yeah, probably safer to leave the ODT with the main force?

[hazy radish]

I'm not so sure, really being speed 2 hasn't been my priority tbh...

[hazy radish]

ye. :)

• that odt wants fight

immediate kind

sven likes fighty fighty.

[thorn sand]

I could take a small supply. Then we'd need to find another way to use the other two small supply.

[odd lake]

YES

all the yes

Turtle up and blast 'em to hell

[odd lake]

I can leave 3 supply with the VTOLs

[thorn sand]

Just a thought though, French is still Our Glorious Leader.

[odd lake]

He is Napoleon™

[hazy radish]

Heh, I'm as much of a leader as you folks are.

[left thistle]

Oh wait let’s see if storm needs any small supply, I’m sure we can find somewhere to offload the remaining too assuming inder takes one

[hazy radish]

I'm a tac-com, I'm just herding sheep really, if you all collective decide to go back home on a poll for some reason, even if i don't agree with it, majority prevails lol

• it is your unit after all, so, as long as you're within the unit coherency rule, we gucci

[hazy radish]

Yeah, better then throwing it away.

Go forth !

[hazy radish]

Sounds like a plan.

Find yourself a willing engineer and i'm happy with it.

[odd lake]

Alright any ENGI wants a ride on the Snacc Wagons of GP?

[left thistle]

I have sent out missives to both atlas and storm. Hopefully I can find somewhere takers!

[hazy radish]

@fluid viper @sleek cedar !

Don't hesitate to ping people if you need to coordinate with them :P

[fluid viper]

Yes. Me

[left thistle]

Atlas is a no go. Hopefully storm is hurting for supplies. It’d be great if we don’t have to dump them

[fluid viper]

Consul Manlius can fight so he is better in the VTOL which can put him near action.

[odd lake]

I cant tell who's who half the time

[left thistle]

Tho also, we probs just could dump the remaining two small supply, atlas has already committed to refilling us whenever we’re in the same nav point

[left thistle]

Real 😂

[hazy radish]

Adam normal engi
Consul combat engi

Me MBT

You logi truck

got it ?

[hazy radish]

They have ?

Hold on I got some atlas folks to kiss.

[odd lake]

for the next 5 days, yes

after that it gets complicated

[left thistle]

From Ixen

[fluid viper]

Ok we can fit everyone and go fast. We can be in Crossroads this turn.

If we put 3 4FS units in the Logi.

We can put infantry in the IFVs and VTOLs

[left thistle]

Assuming we dump all of Ran’s cargo right?

[fluid viper]

Yes

[left thistle]

That’s a little risky

[fluid viper]

Me and Manlius would have to be willing to spend some supply to keep party firing.

But Rabbit and Co. Would know what they are driving into and we could have a fire base built in Crossroads.

[south ether]

That is like most of our supply

[left thistle]

We’re going to be the only bg there next turn if we do this

[fluid viper]

Yeah but we know at least 2 groups join the turn after.

They can know what they will face.

And we just drive in and vomit out our units.

[iron arrow]

or we could just stay with atlas and ge there this turn with no supply lost

[left thistle]

So what’s the plan, bum it straight to cross roads and then immediately turtle?

[south ether]

The 3 vtol carry 2 each engis 4 each arty 2 logi 10

[fluid viper]

Atlas is staying in Elim

[left thistle]

Atlas is staying a turn in elim

[iron arrow]

..they still aim to go to crossroads right?

Oh

[fluid viper]

Yeah that is the idea

[south ether]

Yes, but dropping contested with no spaceport wil take like 4 turns

[hazy radish]

We'll get you

[fluid viper]

We can turtle pretty well

[left thistle]

Assuming everyone gets topped up before we leave that would mean we have:
6 small supply in our 3 vtols
4 small supply in our 2 engineers
2 small supply in our arty

[hazy radish]

that's not how it works

[fluid viper]

Infantry in trenches backed by tanks and medics

[left thistle]

And that’s it

[hazy radish]

logi truck's only got 2 cargo slots.

[fluid viper]

That is how Venator says they have been moving guys

[south ether]

Doesn't say can't carry 4 3fs pai

[hazy radish]

Yeah because 4fs infantry would count as 1 filled slot

[iron arrow]

it doed

[hazy radish]

If the slot has 1 small supply or 5 small supply it'll count as 1 filled slot, and logi trucks only have 2 slots

that's how I interpret it

[iron arrow]

3/4 fs isn't half a slot or something

[fluid viper]

Yeah I did too but I asked and others told me they I interpreted it different.

[hazy radish]

I'm reading it as it comes. We can take it up tac-com comms I guess.

But if it says 2 cargo slots, then it must be 2 cargo slots.

[fluid viper]

So long as it is one vehicle I don't see why not

[south ether]

What I understood is you can't split a unit but can fill up the max fs whichever way you like

A pai odt and engi would work the risk is you only have 1 hit

[fluid viper]

Would people want to be there this turn? Or do you guys think it is too risky?

Oh wait NVM. Still doesn't get us there this turn. We need 0.5 speed to load the IFVs.

We would have 1.5 speed

[south ether]

Speed 1 it is but maybe to rush back to elim if needed we can go speed 2

[fluid viper]

Yeah.

[left thistle]

Yeah I think we should take it slow for a turn, don’t want to get too far ahead

[fluid viper]

It is just everyone will arrive at Crossroads together.

[hazy radish]

what

[left thistle]

Should we put it to a vote?

[hazy radish]

oh because we need to keep the speed

oh riiiiight.

[iron arrow]

that way atlas will be eith us when we get there too right?

[hazy radish]

What's it about ?

also adam how's the formation map going ?

[fluid viper]

Working on it

Sorry got distracted trying not to map infantry and I could have just done it.

Give me an hour or two. If you need to get to bed know I will have a functional map first thing in the morning following the plan.

[left thistle]

Nah forget it. It was for the speed two thing

[hazy radish]

Ay if you can get a pin resuming what happend for today aswell that'd be nice

[simple elm]

So yeah, are we going with the airmobile reserve then?

[hazy radish]

basically this but like, up to date lmao

and then ping dresden (don't be scared) to ask your msg to get pinned

Or anyone else, really.

[muted eagle]

Whoops, I accidentally invented the molotov

[hazy radish]

classic d&d

[hazy radish]

that being ?

[muted eagle]

Well, goodnight iron hammers!

[simple elm]

Basically the idea we load up three infantry and an MBT in the VTOLs and have them linger near the back

[fluid viper]

Not of infantry. IFVs are sturdier and get infantry in the fight just as well. VTOLs have medics and combat engineers.

[hazy radish]

Oh boy, still not agreed on the formations 😅

Beats trying to figure out turn 4 i'll be honnest

I don't give much of a care if infantry should be in ifv or vtol, tho i do have a preference for medics & engis in the ifv so technically a preference for inf in vtols...

[simple elm]

Yeah I'm not really sure why you'd stuff all the support assets in the VTOLs

[hazy radish]

...it's either time to fire up multiple polls or to ask thoses concerned (aka infantry, medic & engis) their thoughts.

or both

[simple elm]

I'd say tag infantry is probably the better choice

[fluid viper]

Because if shit hits the fan the infantry would instantly be in the thick of it. We can move the squishies out or in easier with them in VTOLs.

We are assuming the tail end of the convoy won't get ambushed crossign the border.

I don't see what good infantry in VTOLs would do outside possibly getting themselves stranded alone by biting off more then they can chew by going alone.

Am I changing my entire thing again?

(as a note 1.5 speed reaches anywhere in the formation as currently made so infantry can help anywhere)

[simple elm]

Tbh that's extremely scrunched up

[fluid viper]

Yes but that was the directions I got for the formation

I prefered spread out so an ambushing enemy can't shoot inner troops as easy but it is what it is

[simple elm]

I love sleeping past bad decisions

Literally why even have lightmechs at the fore if infantry could run to the front?

[fluid viper]

Light mechs are faster, have evasion, and can scout well. That was a whole conversation too

[simple elm]

They can't scout if they're tethered to the front of a scrunched rectacle

[fluid viper]

Light mechs can get themselves out of trouble better then infantry as well if they push up.

[fluid viper]

The scrunched position is basically what we will be like as we cross the border

We will spread out likely after entering

I am assuming this is the first campaign with multiple maps like this

[simple elm]

It is

[fluid viper]

This is the map I am looking at too if Rabbit is right about routes we likely will soon fight into a town and IFVs dropping infantry at buildings is better then VTOLs

[steady zephyr]

Oh cool my map

[fluid viper]

oh lol

[hazy radish]

Aaaaahhhh

[fluid viper]

So not rabbit?

[hazy radish]

Oh cool his map

[fluid viper]

Am I making this formation or not?

Should I hold off?

[steady zephyr]

I made it while I was bored 😂

[hazy radish]

...maybe ???

[fluid viper]

I don't want to do the same work 3 times

[hazy radish]

I guess you should yeah.

[steady zephyr]

That’s the reason why the the AF is shown

[hazy radish]

if hunter doesn't agree

seems like getting a formation together is harder then anticipated

[fluid viper]

We probably should have had this planned before campaign start honestly

[simple elm]

tbh it's mainly just a question of how we're expecting to take contact and what our faster vehicles should be doing

[steady zephyr]

What is your deployed unit count?

[fluid viper]

23 in total right now I think

[steady zephyr]

Who is missing? (unit type)

[fluid viper]

25 at start, 3 MIA, 1 last minute recruitment

[hazy radish]

It's not that

It's more, getting the formation in a way we want to

Exept, well

everyone wants a different way.

[fluid viper]

Yeah

[hazy radish]

adam wants it one way
I want it one way
Hunter wants it another

[fluid viper]

That is the big thing

[hazy radish]

No one fucking agrees on anything

[fluid viper]

Dice wants it a 4th don't forget

[hazy radish]

oh that too

fuck me

[simple elm]

Okay, so what are our four ideas?

Or do we have a single thing to agree on?

[steady zephyr]

Yeah I get that. So I wanna have a look what you have deployed

[hazy radish]

...not anymore

Tbh, how about this

I make a horrendous formation.

If no one agrees on anything by like, idk, 15 hours from now ?

That horrendous formation's used.

[fluid viper]

Me and Dice agree Mechs up front.

French wants MBTs up there

I want Logi in the middle flanked French and Dice want it in the rear

etc etc

[hazy radish]

Whaddya guys think of pressure to get us to agree on shit ? 🤣

[fluid viper]

We have disagreed on everything basically

[simple elm]

how the fuck? xD

Okay so, first thing

Is it absolutely necessary that we must move within walking distance of eachother?

[steady zephyr]

So why are the mechs not paired in a vanguard positions so you get eyes on what lies ahead?

[fluid viper]

Here was my first formation I was going to put VTOLs in the rear and then figure out who was mounted where

[thorn sand]

Image borked.

[fluid viper]

borked?

[steady zephyr]

You are losing range with the tanks that way

[fluid viper]

Yeah then the next plan was move the logi to the far rear and move the tanks forward so the first two are between the front IFV and Mechs

[thorn sand]

It showed that it wasn’t loading but it shows fine when I click on it.

[fluid viper]

Idea was tanks could fire across the formation to support the other side with movement if need be but also the IFVs could get out to either side and Logi was unlikely to eat stray shots

We can't agree on shit though so none of this conversation matters

[simple elm]

Honestly? Fair

[thorn sand]

I vote that the four of you create maps for the vehicles and then we have a general poll of which one we (the battlegroup) want most.

[simple elm]

Any QRF we make, be it with light mechs or VTOLs, is based on us getting orders out to respond, so I can see the idea behind spreading out the tanks that way.

[steady zephyr]

is the idea to be fully mechanized? So speed 3

[fluid viper]

Speed 2 at most.

IFVs are speed 2

[steady zephyr]

oh right

but mechanized

[fluid viper]

Yeah. We would need the logi to drop all supplies. This formation would have had 2 walking infantry units

I was going to take 1 spot and then draw straw for the other

[steady zephyr]

tbf you are driving to potential AF strat point

[thorn sand]

If one of our inf is mia we’d only need to drop two supply from the logi truck though, right?

[fluid viper]

Nope all of it

We would have to pack 3-4FS units in the Logi

Really dangerous

But we can't anyways this turn because it would only give us 1.5 speed.

[thorn sand]

What’re our logistics on moving inf then?

[fluid viper]

IFVs need to load up

I was going to put 3 of them in IFVs

We can put one in a VTOL and make Hunter happy

[thorn sand]

Fair though on the speed 1.5 bit.

[fluid viper]

I actually think if we loaded everyone in the logi it would only be speed 0.5

0.5 speed each for loading each of 3 4FS infantry, hitching artillery, and 0.5 speed to drop supplies

But the idea was dead before that

I am going to have C.Wombat walk

I will also walk

Itthink

I don't know anymore

[simple elm]

You're standard engineers, right?

[fluid viper]

yeah

[steady zephyr]

Consul is the Combat engineer

[fluid viper]

Consul was in VTOL as QRF Engineer

[simple elm]

Got it

Actually Consul being heliborne is perfect

[fluid viper]

We can do

1 Medic, 1 Combat Engineer, 1 ODT as the VTOLs, 3 Infantry in IFVs, and then the other medic and me walking? Does that leave us short anything?

[steady zephyr]

Not my BG but what about this as a formation?

[simple elm]

That could work

[fluid viper]

This looks valid

[simple elm]

maybe adjust the tanks to make it a triangle?

[steady zephyr]

@hazy radish

[simple elm]

I was thinking of yoinking a tank to serve as part of the QRF

[fluid viper]

I think we are small enough we don't need a QRF to reach across the formation

[hazy radish]

Yuuuuuuuuuuuup.

[left thistle]

Actually that looks perfect to me, just need to fill in some of the infantry hoofing it on foot

[steady zephyr]

Problem with that they are not in formation then and just on their own
Well unless the mechs are in advance

[fluid viper]

Yeah we can put C. Wombat on one side of the Logi and me on the other?

[hazy radish]

I beg we have enough disagreements as it is please let's not add more 😭

[steady zephyr]

French I made peace with the formation! 🤝

[simple elm]

The frustrating thing is having our VTOLS just bug out or serve as recovery feels like a waste

[hazy radish]

HOW

[left thistle]

I think we are worrying too much about this QRF problem. With how this game plays, we wouldn’t be able to react to any ambush that happens until the round after. All we can do the round we are ambushed is take pot shots back and tank the damage

[hazy radish]

I'm crying this was literally the formation idea I put in

😭

[left thistle]

Yeah but this one was cooler

[steady zephyr]

-# copied your homework and just rephrased it

[hazy radish]

literally the thing we were working on with adam & vivian

i'm crying

[fluid viper]

yes but theirs is pretty

[simple elm]

man

[hazy radish]

i'm going back to my video editing, finishing my thing and i'm going to sleep

how did we manage to go from "no i hate this"

[left thistle]

Good luck

[hazy radish]

to "oh i love this" because assets have been used

like

man

tf

[left thistle]

Never underestimate the power of pretty privilege French

[simple elm]

The IFVs are to the sides of the truck instead of the VTOLs

[steady zephyr]

tbh it is probably just the effect of an outsider saying sth a little different.

[old lark]

TBF they do have IFVs out to the sides flanking the logi, rather than all in the middle

[hazy radish]

...true

[fluid viper]

Once we add the VTOLs in the rear the Logi is basically center mass of the formation where it is safest

[hazy radish]

Tbh, how about this
I make a horrendous formation.
If no one agrees on anything by like, idk, 15 hours from now ?
That horrendous formation's used.

No takers for this ? 🤣

[fluid viper]

Especially if I jam some infantry next to it to soak hits

[steady zephyr]

Shall I send you the file or a png? Or do you wanna copy it on your own?

[hazy radish]

Ask Adam

[fluid viper]

I was doing the mapping

You can send it to me

What software did you use?

[steady zephyr]

alright file or png?

[fluid viper]

both?

[hazy radish]

both is good

[fluid viper]

I will see if I can make it work

[steady zephyr]

Affinity photo. It is compatible with photoshop

[fluid viper]

I have been using Paint.NET

I will see if it workd

[steady zephyr]

No idea then but should be interesting

[simple elm]

Tbh I'm just stuck at this rate

[fluid viper]

You want an IFV spot or a VTOL?

[simple elm]

it feels like we have so few air assets that they go from useful to a hindrance

< Is the HVTOL pilot

[hazy radish]

no, they're usefull tbh

[fluid viper]

Oh

[hazy radish]

you'll need an addon to accept .psd files

[hazy radish]

Yeah, he's our hvtol guy 🤣

[steady zephyr]

Just to emphasize that was 5mins so the scaling is not reasonable

[hazy radish]

nevermind what i need to do is gonna take 30mins and i don't have that time rn lol

[simple elm]

Okay, what're you imagining we do then?

Because I wanted to take advantage of the speed VTOLs have but that doesn't seem to be an option

[fluid viper]

Oh. HVTOL may be at its best puttign the arty up on a clifftop where Bots can't touch it as a note

We may be bouncing from spot to spot soonish in Crossroads

I am really hoping it turns to a 5 turn fight there

[steady zephyr]

@fluid viper how are paint.net files called?

[fluid viper]

They just save as .png

[simple elm]

In that case, you want to load up in a VTOL and I take the arty?

[hazy radish]

.pdn if you save with layers

[hazy radish]

As in ? Because in a formation, it's not a big hassle where the vtols or hvtols are, with their speed in the back they can easily get over and put units where they need to be

[steady zephyr]

ah okay just realised I can export affinity files as photoshop files (but to big...)

Maybe that makes the import easier

[hazy radish]

like, this formation thing is just for cap to say "okay so they're arriving like this, putting 'em here, and good luck starting from there next rounds"

vtols/hvtols can basically be our mini-QRF

at a very smoll scale

and for a very smoll amount of time

[simple elm]

Okay, that was what I had in mind, I was probably just overexaggerating the scale we operate on.

[hazy radish]

yes

we are but a 24 man team

[fluid viper]

We may be the smallest BG

23 if you don't count Wombat who may or may not appear

[steady zephyr]

nope that is 212 with just 16

[hazy radish]

I believe in him.

[left thistle]

Yeah honestly Hunter. Until our vehicles start eating shit, transporting the arty would be super useful, esp bc the logi truck won’t be able to get everywhere as safely

[hazy radish]

...so does the logi + engi + arty idea fall through then ?

[steady zephyr]

And with that same size as Shovels

[fluid viper]

Yeah I think so. Let the logi carry logi

[hazy radish]

i mean i'm happy with the hvtol taking the arty, the logi truck might be less happy lol

Boy oh boy.

[simple elm]

Yeah, also hit me the Arty is fare more in line with how I'm hoping we can take advantage of the VTOLs

[left thistle]

Yeah I also couldn’t get any takers for offloading Ran further so we might as well just take 8 small supplies with us

[hazy radish]

Right, uhm, you guys get a résumé up as I said earlier to get pinned, there still seems to be a lot to discuss

[simple elm]

Basically hoping our VTOLs can head out someplace and just immediately get a position set up

[hazy radish]

...hopefully we get our shit together for tomorrow/10 hours from now

[left thistle]

It’ll keep us well supplied as an independent force for a long time

[hazy radish]

cya guys

[steady zephyr]

well I wish you a good night it is already way to late for me
Happy that I could help out a bit

[left thistle]

Good luck with the editing!

[hazy radish]

-# I'm going to sleep

[fluid viper]

Alright. @odd lake I am really sorry to do this but we are having the HVTOL take the arty so we are not doing the logi/eng/arty combo like we talked about.

Are you ok with that?

[simple elm]

Hey, do we know if the trenchline helps the arty at all?

[fluid viper]

No there is a specific arty thing we can build though

[odd lake]

ya, its fine

[fluid viper]

Then if something approaches the arty crew fights as a 3FS infantry

[simple elm]

Okay, was trying to figure out what the other two VTOLs should be doing

Do the VTOLs have enough supply capacity to make room for infantry on the Logi or do we just end up with more footmobiles?

[odd lake]

One more thing: why was my order vandalized? who do i need to issue a batchall to?

[simple elm]

???

Oh shit people already put out orders

[simple elm]

✋ I needed a job

tbh do we have the speed for the VTOLs to load up supplies?

Because we could just full send the airmobile artillery idea and have arty, an engi, and two supply ready to go

[left thistle]

I think the vtols still have all the supply they spawned with

Which is all the can carry

[feral ivy]

so we are advancing? any recommendations for me?

[simple elm]

Ah perfect then, so we don’t need to sort out the VTOLs

[simple elm]

What’s your unit?

[feral ivy]

I'm an infantry squad, callsign Kilo

[left thistle]

Hmm ask around the ifvs for a ride. I’m with Darkhen, it I think the others are open. We’re going to be advancing in formation to L-H and then Crossroads

[eager carbon]

Ok
So whats the plan and am i healing anyone while moving?

[sleek cedar]

I just read the 350+ messages I missed from like this morning and can confidently say @eager carbon we are doing something lol In all seriousness I believe we will be moving to crossroads and are sorting out what our org for this will be. I do not think you need to heal anyone, but I think anyone that has expended a small supply should include in their order that they are sourcing one from Ran of Kiith the Logi Truck

[eager carbon]

makes sense

[sleek cedar]

I think we can have an airmobile battery deployable using the VTOLs and your HVTOL. Have you sling the arty, myself and an inf in two VTOLs, and a VTOL for whoever. This way in a turn we can assess and pick a location to set up the gun, have a trench that can fit two inf squads, and man the trench with 10fs of firing capability in a turn. The third VTOL can either carry a unit for the quick deploy fob, like a medic or another inf for security, or be a part of the main column.

I think this works slightly better than having a tank be carried and deployed as that just feels like having the tank drive somewhere with extra steps.

[simple elm]

Yeah, tbh I just wanted to go with an engineer in one of the VTOLs and the other two simply carrying supplies. With only 5 infantry units total (including the ODT and one guy missing), we don’t have the manpower to have a full trench line

[sleek cedar]

I think I had the discussion earlier (couple days ago) and it was stated that the VTOLs carry 6FS and 2 supply and can't switch out the 6FS for more supply. If this is the case, we can deploy an inf with the battery to at least give it some screen. Engi can build a trench line for two squads, and since I am a fighting capable engi I would occupy one of those spaces. I think this just allows us to be more aggressive on the placement of the arty so it can have more of a battlespace control and not be worried as much about retalliation. But you have a good point.

Maybe something like this

[simple elm]

Fair. I guess the standard engi could position themselves behind the tanks if someone goes wrong, so it’d let you build up defenses and then hold the line.

[fluid viper]

I am trying to figure out how to add the text to it but this is what it looks like so far to keep the formation intact. The infantry where bulkier when out of vehicles then I thought using the scale models

[fluid viper]

OH GOD MORE DISCUSSION. Alright I kinda like your plan

I wanted the infantry and Engis next to the logi to help soak anything that can target it

Reduce risk of it getting popped

[steady zephyr]

Shouldn’t one vtol be a HVTOL?

[fluid viper]

I don't see a seperate unit for that

in the units

so I just used a standard and labeled it HVTOL

Oh no I forgot a medic

I need to put another unit of infantry on the ground

Also how do I fit text in here?

Do I do just #s and then a legend?

It is looking like this with text

Valkor has the other Engineer I was trying to figure out how to fit the text in

[eager carbon]

was gonna say
I am not on there with my med corp

[fluid viper]

yeah

You wanna walk next to GP on the other side from me?

Then we have logi if we need it?

and we help block for it?

Or do you really feel a need to be in a VTOL because if you do then DICE is coming down with me

[round stag]

A idea since your moving one hex should maybe your infantry deploy behind the ifv instead of inside would add more firepower if you encounter any hostiles

[fluid viper]

In the IFV they can go 1.5 deploy and instantly dig in and shoot iirc.

Much more mobile for our needs.

[round stag]

It 0.5 for infantry to leave unless the ifv have the ramp upgrade

[fluid viper]

Yes then 0.5 for them to dig in

right?

[round stag]

It take infantry full movement to dig in

To dig in you can’t spend any movement

[fluid viper]

Oh. Also as noted this is the map we are assuming is correct. If it is the IFVs are a real good way to get the infantry into the buildings quickly. Which is a big need for that tactical situation. This map is also the big reason I liked Arty with HVTOL because it can drop him on a mountain top for some protection purposes.

[left thistle]

Oh wow we could set up a real nice beach head in the building cluster to the NE of the proposed airfield

[fluid viper]

You mean NW?

It should be noted that if these buildings are the same size as those in Elim this is a much bigger map

This may be the central battle ground of this campaign

[left thistle]

Yeah lol

[fluid viper]

Getting a firebase set up for artillery and intel may be key to winnning this fight.

[left thistle]

I hope so, doing these smaller tac-maps is cool, but it doesn’t allow logistics players to ever get set up and running if we aren’t staying in an area for a while

[left thistle]

Agreed

Especially since we will likely be the first one’s in. It’s good to not push too far with our small numbers

[fluid viper]

A line like this would give a real strong defensive position to weather a dumb bot approach. If they fight like in Elim city we could clear a lot of them out

Some screening on the hills tanks in the gap firing over the city

[left thistle]

Exactly

Let’s hope those mountains are traversable

[fluid viper]

If they are not traversable that is honestly better for us

It would let us build a chokepoint and kill box

Like this where they have to walk through prepared defenses to get to our trenches and we can have like a 5v3 advantage and they get backed up behind it

We could detonate a few buildings to open zones of fire

Not as good for attacking them though. We do have to break out at some point if we hope to advance

[left thistle]

Oh for sure, but presumably by the time we have to break out, we’ll have another bg or two with us

For just establishing a beach head that looks great!

[fluid viper]

Oh yeah with the current plan we arrive with Rabbit already

They are mostly light vehicles and mechs though. They would want us to draw the enemy in and then they could go for flanking attacks with their speed

To take advantage of ignoring that 1 armor

[left thistle]

Wait honestly that’s probs the best force for this stage of the op. We can establish a beach head while they scout ahead/flank

B/c with the bots building something there I’m assuming that we’re going to want as much info as possible before committing in force

[eager carbon]

happy too

[rigid oar]

Sorry i had to had an prior engagment. What did i miss and where do I walk? If i want to get healed do i specify that in my order? When are orders due? Are their any transports left or do i gotta walk? If so that is fine.

[sleek cedar]

Really just a variation on what has been discussed but I understand the pain lol

[eager lichen]

You need to coordinate with ATLAS for drops and resupply.

[eager lichen]

Look, are you more concerned about anti-air or you more concerned about enemy armor?

[eager lichen]

... if you can coordinate your drops and not spread everyone too thin like STORM was forced to, it is possible.

[eager lichen]

Welcome to the military ARMCO, where no plans survive's contact with the enemy.

[eager lichen]

Better late than never!

[eager lichen]

eyes STORM VTOL reserves saving INF

[eager lichen]

I would assume that the buildings in elim city are much larger because they look to be industrial.

[charred swift]

psssst, hi, it's me, ya boi the question guy. I see alot of people putting that they're just getting into formation and moving at speed. Do we light mechs need to specify we're marching in evasive?

[left thistle]

I would think so yes

[solar bear]

I think so...

[left thistle]

I think you have to put it as your order type tho. Not just in the description

[charred swift]

.> idk what you're talking about it's always been like that

<.<

[muted eagle]

Nah, I want logi in the middle too

[muted eagle]

Well, I wouldn't exactly call it the same because yours doesn't have any ifvs to the sides of the logi, only Infront of it

[south ether]

Looks like we are starting to agree on a formation an first battle plan

[muted eagle]

Isn't ade carrying me? 😅

[south ether]

Yes i am carrying dice

[hazy radish]

Just had a thought

I got this gambling plushie I never showed here :)

[simple elm]

yooooooooooooooooo

[hazy radish]

I'll get on my Pc and read up.

I've had 6 pings in armco lol

[simple elm]

RIP

I think it's mainly just more fleshing out the helo guys and who we're loading up. We realized a combat engineer+infantry squad could work to support the artillery I'm carrying without eating too heavily into our dismounts.

Outside of that I've just been silently imploding because I'm having horrid writer's block for my RP segment xD

[hazy radish]

Only 115 new messages, i'm less scared now.

[hazy radish]

VTOLs can have supplies AND infantry

The magic of VTOL.

[simple elm]

wild

[hazy radish]

That sounds fun.

[hazy radish]

We're making formations.
Walk towards L-H.
Ask your medic buddies for healing.
Orders due in 13h30 from now
No idea for transports, ask away

Any more questions ? :D

[hazy radish]

Yes, do specify evasive.

[hazy radish]

Yes !

[hazy radish]

I like this. I'm right beside Triarii, me likey.

Text seems a bit confusing for who is who, and you've used a vtol icon for hvtol and a normal ifv icon for our auto cannon ifv, but since you threw the .pdn, as long as you used layers, I can fix that :P

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND caught up.

[winter dragon]

Is this formation final?

[hazy radish]

...unless you wanna change something, I think yes

OH NO

@fluid viper YOU PUT THE TEXT ON THE SAME LAYER

NOOOO

https://tenor.com/view/gif-emoji-dying-gif-12781121009589146106

welp, nearly redoing it from scratch then, lemme grab some assets 😅

I just wanna make it pretty and accurate, formation will stay the same :P

I think I'll just put you in front in terms of ifvs @winter dragon since you don't have the auto-canon upgrades like your IFV counterparts, you have less range so more need to be ahead :P

unless you dont wanna

👀

[winter dragon]

I am okay with that

[hazy radish]

good !

[winter dragon]

Just to be sure i am carrying Bulwark?

[hazy radish]

Also why don't we put the combat engi vtol with the hvtol arty ? 👀

[hazy radish]

According to the formation, yuhuh

[south ether]

the formation is not accurate i am carrying dice

[hazy radish]

gotcha

[hazy radish]

How's this looking like ?

I put yellow shadows because... Neither black nor white works so, I'm trying out yellow now lol

I'll throw this in tac-com comms aswell, actually

[simple elm]

👍

[hazy radish]

Just seen the df logo get brightened, should I brighten ours too ? 🤔

in terms of text or just general brightness, it feels pretty damp on the map rn

[iron arrow]

so should i talk to big ear?

where are they on the map

and i'm guessing from other people's orders we just have to declare we're entering the formation from wherever and boom

[hazy radish]

pretty much

declare you're climbin' onto big ear
big ear declares you're climbin' in

big badaboom then say you're going to l-h in formation and that works

[fierce dirge]

So I am kinda lost on what is happening with the orders.
Is entering formation effectively us leaving the map?

[iron arrow]

cool cool i'll go do the order later

[iron arrow]

@jolly cloud Hi so i guess we're together this round

[hazy radish]

We are leaving the map, for L-H, yes

Formation is needed so cap' can place us when we get to another tactical map/battle map
So your order can just be "Moving in formation to L-H" in terms of movement

I'll make a few pings and a pin in a few mins/hours..

[eager carbon]

Order is in

[hazy radish]

Hello Iron Hammer !

Quick pin to get everyone updates for now:
We have decided thanks to the previous poll to go to L-H and then crossroads !

And thus, we have debated and made a formation that, hopefully, you agree with, that's also pinned !

To note: For your order, you will be able to do healing, load, unload, whatever, and then we can strategically move to L-H.
Once the formation completed, it will be pinned, and you will be just able to say in your order "Following Iron Hammer formation" with a link to the pin, or a reference to the pin, to make it clear for me we're talking about the same stuff lol.

That's all for now boys !

Don't forget to often check the pins !

@fluid viper @sleek cedar @lost elk @iron arrow @rough granite @sour flame @dim plaza @winter dragon @ivory goblet @south ether

Orders are due in around 10 hours from now !

#1383066706724913293 message The formation map in question, right here, on this link, or scroll up like ~20 messages

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I am also very happy to see orders being handed in early. :D

#1385617845831995402 message @muted eagle shouldn't ending coords be either "none" or "in formation with iron hammer" ? :P

@thorn sand @odd lake @simple elm

While your orders are all valid...
I have Inderwrote the arty saying he's hitching up on the logi truck
Ran the logi truck saying he's hitching the arty
And Hunter the HVTOL saying he's loading up the arty

So, I'm gonna need some reposts to clear this up gents 😅

(love the top gear parody ran btw)

new reaction on the orders leaked

#1385617845831995402 message @fierce dirge I'm assuming your ending coords is not "IFV" but is indeed the IH formation 🤣

@rigid oar @feral ivy

Gonna need both of you to name the callsign of the IFV you wanna embark on please 👀
Cagereal you already have Turtle (callsign Tiams) who put in his orders to take you
Krieg according to the formation thingy up here it should be Diggerwasp (callsign Turtle) to take you in. You are free to choose something/someone else if you can negotiate with people who still haven't posted their order, i'll modify the formations to match if need be.

WEW. Whole bunch of messages, sorry, just going through the orders, getting a pin up, pinging people who haven't posted their orders yet, making sure everything's good and tidy.

[fluid viper]

I am so sorry man. I tried

[hazy radish]

It's okay 🤣

Next time you'll know to separate the callsigns into a new layer, makes moving stuff easier :P

(or editing them, if need be)

I can throw you the .pdn if you want. You still did a good job

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/808118896812621844.webp?size=96

[fluid viper]

outside every bit of work I did needing to be tossed and redone

lol

I should remove the t at the end of asst in my name

[hazy radish]

Naaah, I just replaced the good assets and callsigns and separated stuff into layers so easier to edit, the formation layout is still yours :P

[fluid viper]

more accurate that way

[hazy radish]

yeah, crowded name eh ?

[fluid viper]

nah I was making a joke about how I am bad at the job

lol

[fluid viper]

Thanks Dresden!

[hazy radish]

Thanks Dresden !

#1385617845831995402 message @fluid viper Fun fact: Ran the logi truck gave you 2 supplies.

So you're at 4 supplies

[feral ivy]

I'll fix it.

[fluid viper]

after this turn I am

I am 2/4 at turn start

[hazy radish]

Okay, as long as you keep track of it properly

[feral ivy]

Better?

[fluid viper]

Looks right to me.

At least enough that Shack can grok it

[hazy radish]

I likey. :)

[jolly cloud]

Bet! Is my order pretty much just, I pick you up and then we move in formation?

[iron arrow]

I think so

[odd lake]

hunter must be carrying somebody else, cuz me and Inter have already agreed that im hitching him

right @thorn sand ?

[hazy radish]

Didn't you guys after agreed Hunter would get to carry the arty otherwise he's out of a job ? D:

[odd lake]

I dont remember agreeing to this

[jolly cloud]

Sounds good, I’ll get my order in after church!

[hazy radish]

#1383066706724913293 message right here D:

[odd lake]

oh. thanks for reminding me ❤️ 👍

[hazy radish]

yeah 😅

[odd lake]

aight, changed my order, im no longer picking up any artillery

[rigid oar]

Sorry about that. I looked at the formation and thought I put in that transport specifically but guess I forgot. Also good morning iron hammer!

Wait French I edited the post but you did you need me to delete and repost it?

[left thistle]

Yeah you gotta delete and repost

Not saying you’d do this, but the no editing rule is to keep people from changing their orders after midrounds start since they don’t give a time stamp for when things were edited

Also good morning hammer! Thank you for the hard work French and Adam!

[rigid oar]

I didn’t even think about people changing orders mid round. I’ve reposted it.

[left thistle]

Me neither but from what I head, that’s the reason the “no editing orders” rule was put in place

[round stag]

It was first added partly when it was two unit a hex so you could put in valid orders but someone above in orders could change and now we have 3 or more people going into one hex and making a big mess things like that was one of the reason

And other reasons

[left thistle]

Ooooh, makes sense! Learning new meta campaign lore every day!

[dim plaza]

@feral ivy Hey you are embarking on the wrong IFV or did we change something in the planing ?

[feral ivy]

I have no idea. I was told to use turtle

[dim plaza]

hmm Well as far as i knwo we have IFV Norwind, Tiams and Numbat. who is turtel ? 😛

[solar bear]

I was thinking the same thing kkkk

[median epoch]

Oh yea, pro tip:
With both Cargo bays free, a Logi-Truck can carry 12FS.
That's 2 INF units OR 3x Medic/Engineers

[feral ivy]

French said your callsign was turtle, so I'm thinking there was some confusion

[sleek cedar]

@jolly cloud @ivory goblet @south ether If you aren't carrying anyone I would appreciate a ride so we can have the quick deploy battery set up

[hazy radish]

o, did i fuck up ?

[hazy radish]

OH I DID 🤣
diggerwasp's callsign is numbat

I must have read that wrong somewhere hahaha sorry

you gonna need to delete & repost i think x)

[feral ivy]

On it

[hazy radish]

ay you have a ride, check the pins 👀

literally been arbitrarely made tho so

don't blame you for pingin' 👀

[fluid viper]

They are in the formation map.

[left thistle]

Gotta love how much this round of orders is way less hectic

-# tho that might be bc we kinda started shoving ppl where ever 👀

[hazy radish]

GOD YES

so much calm.

It's lovely.

[left thistle]

Honestly, let’s never do a joint deployment situation again lmao

The rules haggling was more than enough on the player side, can’t imagine what it was like for the tac-coms

[hazy radish]

uhm

#1383066706724913293 message peak of the pain ngl

[rough granite]

so queston how do i join the formashon

[fluid viper]

Which unit are you?

Are you one of the Mechs?

If so just make your order Advance and the location "in formation with Iron Hammer"

[hazy radish]

evade* 🤣

evade would be best

[fluid viper]

Oh yeah Evasion

[hazy radish]

but if you wanna advance and not do evasion order, your unit, not mine !

[fluid viper]

You are in front

Please don't die

[hazy radish]

death will be punishable by death

beware!

[hazy radish]

Movement/Action Tracker: Reform squad. Rendezvous with other Infantry squads. Embark on IFV Numbat.

Starting Coords: 3316
Ending Coords: IFV Numbat.
@rough granite Wait, so now you're an infantry squad that's embarking on an IFV ?

Could have sworn you were a light mech just a few minutes ago ! 🤣

[rough granite]

sorry i was using a coppy and past imand i did not see that (im very easly overwelmd)

[hazy radish]

That's okay dude, no problems

Just delete and repost, and make sure you're not an infantry going into an ifv ! :D

If you ever feel confused or need help just ping me vivian or anyone else that's currently active here

We have no issue explaining what's happening, I try to keep track of stuff in the pinned messages, and we're all always happy to help !

Perfect @rough granite !

Nitpicking, but you are a "light mech", not a "lihie meck", but I understand what you mean perfectly don't worry about deleting and reposting :D

[simple elm]

Do I need to resubmit or are we good?

[rough granite]

https://tenor.com/view/raimbow-dislexia-bob-esponja-gif-20702360

[hazy radish]

...I think it's good

[hazy radish]

Damn, that sucks

Thankfully, you don't need to know how to write or how to read to be able to shoot a gun !

[hazy radish]

yup, you're transporting arty
arty has agreed
logi is on it's own

[simple elm]

👍 Also curious, is the question mark mainly at the fact both me and the logi tried to grab the artillery, or did I fumble the little RP segment? xD

[hazy radish]

...new reaction

It was on you, ran & inderwrote to say "okay something's fishy now here" x)

[rigid oar]

WEll we are also not dealing with "Will we even be able to delploy? IDK?" cus of having to rely on others.

[hazy radish]

true

[muted eagle]

Yeah, and having a whole 24 more hours to do this

[hazy radish]

Ay even without we'd have it figured it out ngl

Right now since this mornin' we've been posting orders really, formation's pretty hammered on

[muted eagle]

Last night when the orders would be due in if we had 24 hours, we were still arguing over formations

[hazy radish]

Meh, if we had a looming date we'd have made it one way or another

think we got the 2 biggest things down

1. deploying

2. formation

now we gucci

[hazy radish]

stretches hands

Now, let's see who hasn't gotten their order posted yet 👀

YAAAAAAAAAY

okay back to the order tracker

ahem

[rapid pond]

Seriously this gambler mechanic is a bane to you

[hazy radish]

Shush.

[thorn sand]

It’s a feature not a bug! Er… a bot? … a glitch.

[hazy radish]

I shall not hear from heretics.

[hazy radish]

A feature in the Iron Hammer sheet for sure 👀

God this made me remind me luna da tuna is not back in this game.

[rapid pond]

The chromes are in your bloody heads…

[thorn sand]

At least it’s not pirated.

[left thistle]

This needs to be in the next one French

[hazy radish]

Really saddened. I pinged 'em plenty before the campaign started and even dmed them. :(

Man now i'm getting saddened

[hazy radish]

If @glad hedge makes it :P

Alright, sadness aside

[rapid pond]

I mean you have Warmonger for a reason

[hazy radish]

Warmongerer*

yes yes true, didnt even rp him today

[muted eagle]

@ivory goblet @sour flame @sleek cedar @lost elk We still need orders from all you, there's about 3 hours until the orders close

[hazy radish]

Oh

Was about to do it, thanks Vivian !

[glad hedge]

I have another gift in the making. But it requires more effort

[muted eagle]

Ah, so are we declaring c.wombat as MIA for now?

[hazy radish]

It's been declared as such in the order tracker, I've put it in the sign-up sheet aswell

I will still, out of kindness, consider him in the formation and with us for unit coherency and so he can come back if he wishes

But if after a week or so he has not come back with a single sign of life, I will consider him officially MIA-ed and will strike him off future plans & pings

[hazy radish]

Ooooo 👀

Also, uh, can you, idk if it was you but, the health, thingies, like, they're, kinda broken, and uh.. I.. can you please fix them ? 🥺👉 👈

[glad hedge]

Looks down from high upon his throne Well ... since you insist

[hazy radish]

@tired jewel, quickly, I need a cute heart emote !

OOOOOOOOOOOOOKAY

WOW.

Cap's way more strict then me for MIA holy cow 😅

Frenchboi [Iron Hammer TAC-COM] — 20:51
MIA Permanently means "you're not getting back, you're out of this, cya next campaign" ?

CaptainShack — 20:51
Yep

Ooh boy.

[hazy radish]

Well, uhm, I guess no more of that ? Jesus.

[sleek cedar]

The issue is I can't declare that I am being carried by someone that may not have orders in yet. I think they prefer the vehicle to declare their actions and then the passengers after. Hence the pings for a ride. The one I am currently indicated for hasn't posted anything yet since last round. If that doesn't matter for this formation strategic layer stuff then no worries. I just worry that if we handwave me onto a VTOL it will be harder to handwave me off of it if we get into combat.

[hazy radish]

I'm following cap's directives for MIA, so, hopefully, C.Wombat gets back...

[rapid pond]

Well French, if you decide to desert your party on a random world/part of space, you aren’t really expected to return

[muted eagle]

Let's wait to see if he posts an order first

[glad hedge]

What exactly is broken about them?

[hazy radish]

I understand

[hazy radish]

There used to be colors and the health is not accurate for mbts or light mechs or odt etc etc ?

I think ?

I'll be very honnest, I could have fixed this, but I am just very lazy to do so

You can fuck off and let me work it out with my lazyness lol

[hazy radish]

Yes, yes ! I believe in C.Wombat !

[glad hedge]

Owwww I see now

No worries

[hazy radish]

For sure he'll get an order in.

[glad hedge]

Should be a quick fix

Will do so after I am done writing RP for my order lmao

[left thistle]

Should we spam ping c.wombat?

[hazy radish]

no

Not to that extent.

Like c'mon.

Decency.

We ping him just like everyone else for their orders, and we'll see what happens.

[left thistle]

Ik ik, twas jokes

For all we know irl stuff has hit them hard

[hazy radish]

Happily waves the formation in pins

[hazy radish]

Thanks !

@glad hedge 'tis heart emote's for you

[sleek cedar]

@hazy radish Should my VTOL ride not delcare you want me to say I am walking out? Just to clarify.'

[hazy radish]

Yes.

I'll modify the formations in pins to make you walk alongside the formation wherever you wish to

As Shack said earlier, if there's no response while we move out to another node, the unit will be considered MIA
If another round goes by with no response nor orders, they will be marked Permanently MIA (or, P-MIA in the sheet), meaning they are permanently lost and cannot rejoin the campaign anymore.

Making sure this is clear so I'm repeating it a bit 😅

[ivory goblet]

Sorry I'm late you still need a ride

[sleek cedar]

Not late, right on time. Yes please

[hazy radish]

Ay, there we go !

[ivory goblet]

Right where to

[hazy radish]

Look up the pins for updates right now.

[ivory goblet]

Also sorry for being Mia work was mental

[hazy radish]

In a nutshell: We going to L-H to go to crossroads
Formation has been made in pins
You're transporting consul :D

[hazy radish]

Ay, you're not MIA in my book 'till you don't put orders. Can't be active 24/7.

[ivory goblet]

Sounds good to me

[sleek cedar]

No worries. Didn't want to put you in a tight spot if you couldn't declare for the turn

[hazy radish]

Altho, do keep that in mind 😅

Not my directive but, I'll have to apply it if it does happen.

[ivory goblet]

No worries

[hazy radish]

You'll get plenty of pings by then anyways

[sleek cedar]

For simplicity sake you can prob just copy/paste Big Ear's order and replace the relevant info

[ivory goblet]

Sounds good to me

[ivory goblet]

orders are in

[glad hedge]

There we are, should be all good now. I took the HPs from the units google sheet, so they might be inaccurate because of upgrades or damage taken. Just pop me a ping if anything doesnt seem rught

[hazy radish]

glorious

ALSO @glad hedge DID YOU CHANGE THE ORDER OF THEM ALL ????

I manually changed the order of everyone so it matched the unit type stat sheet on the right 😭

[glad hedge]

Woops

[hazy radish]

Now ODT is next to vtol, medics nowhere near next to infantry, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[glad hedge]

There we go

Bless the Omnissiah for inventing Undo 🙏

[hazy radish]

:D

Thanks !

[glad hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[hazy radish]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

HAD A HEART ATTACK SEEING THE DOC UNITS GET SCRAMBLED

for like a splitsecond

@glad hedge my heart 😭

[glad hedge]

I saw that back up @hazy radish 👀

[hazy radish]

IM SCARED OKAY

🤣

[muted eagle]

Also, I'm curious, what's this?

[glad hedge]

Dont worry about it 👀

[muted eagle]

My guess is that it's that uno thing

WC - Wild Card

W4 - Wild Card, +4

B, G, Y and R 2s - +2s

Definitely uno

[hazy radish]

Naaah, he would never.

God bless @solar bear for making his order tracker in C3

[glad hedge]

I will give you a sneak peak for what I am working on

[hazy radish]

TALKING OF WHICH!

looks at order tracker

Hello hello @sour flame and @lost elk !

Only 1h30 left before orders are closed, please get your orders in !

If you have any questions on what's happening, feel free to ask us and/or look at the pins for info !

[hazy radish]

as long as it's armco themed...

[glad hedge]

Give me some ideas how to make an armco themed uno deck and I will make it so

[muted eagle]

0-4 are Infantry, mechs, engineer and medics, 5-7 are HATs, Logi and VTOLs, 8 and 9 are Captains and ODT

[hazy radish]

okay that is way more brilliant then my idea

My idea was that we put battlegroups instead of numbers

but since we have 14 of 'em, well...

[muted eagle]

Reverse is SPG

[glad hedge]

Excellent idea

[muted eagle]

Stop is PAI

+2 special forces I guess?

[hazy radish]

Vivian's brilliant

[muted eagle]

Then +4 wild card is ABSOLUTELY the super heavy battle tank

Then regular wildcard mbt

[glad hedge]

I could mess around with the colors as well

[hazy radish]

Do you have a significant other Vivian ?

[glad hedge]

Make one of orange

[hazy radish]

if so, ask them to kiss you 🤣

If not, uhm, well

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-hugs-virtual-hug-gif-27180713

that'll suffice.

[rapid pond]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-silliness-cute-cyn-cynessa-gif-15583131861628345638

[muted eagle]

Maybe soon :3