Battlegroup 5 - Redwall: Comms

[subtle light]

still learning

[compact briar]

Still have coordinate mismatch

[tough condor]

There's no way to know when someone makes an edit, so edited orders can't be processed to avoid things like people changing orders after a round has been resolved

[compact briar]

I'm not trying to be a jerk here. If a player says they want to do one thing, but there's a discrepancy in their orders, it needs to be resolved before I process it.

[subtle light]

I didnt see it that way at all im new and learning and corrects are welcome

[glass walrus]

You have to resend that message can't leave edited

Im fucking with you

[vague drum]

i forgot to add the map for mine deleted then resubmitted the same now with the map

[compact briar]

For reference

Penance's stated position is 3416, marked in green.

Event Horizon, you are giving your coordinates as 3216 while stating you are taking position next to Penance.

[subtle light]

3316 dangit

[compact briar]

And this is why I ask people to include a map and markings with their orders.

[tough condor]

it took me a second to find your markings for your positioning, If you could make that a little bit more visible it'd be of great help

[vague drum]

please hold

[compact briar]

Trench, would you be able to pin the unmarked map of Elim?

I reposted it in this chat.

[tough condor]

I can do that, it's also pinned in the Tac-Com chat

[compact briar]

Much obliged.

[tough condor]

I was mid typing a message to say that it was pinned in the Tac-Com chat lol

[tough condor]

That is much better

[compact briar]

I think we're good to the SW, people.

[subtle light]

why are all of our ballistic shield PA's going the same direction lol

I feel like one of them should go north to support the new inf there

[tough condor]

There's only two of us, and going to where the enemy is thickest rn seemed a valid choice

[subtle light]

3 PAI's with PA ive seen so far all going south instead of north where we took alot of losses and north is only non-ball shield PAI's. Just seems like swapping one of the non shield pais north with a shield one would be slightly more efficient

[tulip zephyr]

I will fill with 12 supply and follow arty Hydra until we clear more space to move around. I will post a bit later when I get home.

[subtle light]

all I can hear when thinking about artillery is the bosnian artillery song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRGgl9KT9rE

[tough condor]

20/41 on orders

Alright, I gotta eat and get started on some other projects irl. I'll check back in later

[warped oriole]

Should I be carrying small supplies when first deploying ?

[spice marlin]

Any engi's going south with Trench?

[wary ermine]

I can redo my order to go south.

[compact briar]

Please don't use the 👍 emoji in orders chat.

I use 👍 to show that an order is valid.

[dense hedge]

whoops sorry

[keen saddle]

I’m planning on moving just to the NW side of hex 3417 is anyone already there?

[tawny cobalt]

I see one engi has taken each of the directions south and east. Are there any PAI going in the northern arc that still needs engi repair tagalong?

[limber minnow]

Redwall I will murder you if you guys don't make a coordination sheet

On second thought, I'm going to make one for you guys to fill out, since I don't have time to murder you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlipG7FZis_Y_igHiP6BRMkMDG7mIVoyPAWfzlBYvx8/edit?usp=sharing

fill out your unit positions, please-

[tawny cobalt]

Also bold idea but is there anywhere else we can discuss things as a BG? It's confusing to me with so many high levels strategic talks and low level tactics talks going on at the same time. If not a separate discord, maybe a discussion part of the roster sheet?

[keen saddle]

Yeah, they changed the movement system a bit, I just had logged the old start/end points for V2

It was all you needed then

[limber minnow]

Both are relevant to the current discussion, sadly-

[tawny cobalt]

Right both need to happen, but not necessarily in the same chat making it impossible to find any specific info or discussions... Like my questions about defences immediately got buried and no one responded

[keen saddle]

There’s not a lot of easy ways to make both happen in the set up they have currently it seems

[keen saddle]

The plan from yesterday was mostly focused on securing then working on a defensive work around the starport, but we need to plan what and where we’re digging

[tawny cobalt]

I made a proposal that was lost in the hundreds of messages

[keen saddle]

It was the one with the circles, right?

[tawny cobalt]

Would other engis be willing to discuss defences on the spreadsheet with screenshots there?

[limber minnow]

Solution: Have a BG coordination sheet.

... OZUL is suffering trying to coordinate that many things.

[tawny cobalt]

I'm literally proposing that right now amigo

[keen saddle]

Issue with the spreadsheet is it’s not an actual message system so our mileage will vary on how functional it will be for that

We can try

[tawny cobalt]

Agreed and honestly if I could just set things up myself I'd make a redwall discord with a chat for tactics, for strategy, for building, and maybe 4-8 fire team chats for us to organize ourselves in to. But that makes coordinating with the rest of ARMCO more difficult and spreads things out so the sheet was a compromise

[keen saddle]

I think if I can collate something with a map to make a functional way to track us

But it’s gonna be all on me and the players to fill out the movement for it

Basically graphical representation by making a map I can move representations of the units over as we move

Allows for me to sketch fortifications and buildings out

It will be scuffed but nothing is perfect

[tawny cobalt]

I think a maps section of the spreadsheet is a great idea. I think updating all our units on it may be more effort than it's worth. Just a few arrows with troop compositions would do fine e.g. "2 inf 2 PAI 1 engi 1 medic" arrow in direction of travel and that would be fairly easy to keep up with if we split in to groups like that that stick together
Edit: in my opinion disclaimer

[keen saddle]

It can’t be on the spreadsheet, mostly because it’s pictures over picture. But I can do that

[inland sedge]

I am

I’m covering gufiu tho but I can heal either I’m waiting for him to redo his orders so I can face the same way

[tawny cobalt]

I'll follow any PAI on the NW to NE arc, let me know and I'll follow

[limber minnow]

REDWALL,

Here. A tab on ELIM GROUND AO coordination document. What's your general plan?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qFkFUIQjjFQVOd7Au0cdv8I-KX31-_6jAF_U4JfvRUU/edit?tab=t.dbtqlfw2p5xc

And also a tab on ELIM GROUND AO coordination sheet. Where are your units dropping, where are they going?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlipG7FZis_Y_igHiP6BRMkMDG7mIVoyPAWfzlBYvx8/edit?usp=sharing

[inland sedge]

I put my info in I can start putting the other orders in if you want @limber minnow

[limber minnow]

That would be appreciated, thank you!

[sterile venture]

Heading to the north east face of the building and engaging that smaller group of bots, dont think many people have engaged them yet, hoping to reduce their strenght a bit

[tawny cobalt]

You're PAI right? I can support as engi

[sterile venture]

Aye

[tawny cobalt]

3416? To confirm

[prime vessel]

I'm going to have Stitchers head SE to heal Hounds, next turn i'll see about setting up a either Field Hospital or Civie Aid Station in the building East (Probably Field Hospital first.)

[sterile venture]

Yea, hoping to still be in the building

[keen saddle]

I've got something I can throw over for someone to get me some opinions for planning wise, just let me know if you're interested in helping

[tawny cobalt]

I'm interested and willing but really need to stop procrastinating at work for a bit 😅

[keen saddle]

do work

[limber minnow]

Yes, but not part of Redwall. Is that okay?

[keen saddle]

this is for later also probably not super good on phones

[sterile venture]

There had to do mine fast, Got an Arma Event. If need be I'll look at it again in a couple of hours

[keen saddle]

no problem

[hardy saffron]

already redid - facing S/SW

[limber minnow]

@vague drum A quick note that an entire orbital is on the SW (and NE) Landing pad. I don't think your unit will fit, but please check in with your TCO.

[inland sedge]

i saw thank you! i am right behind you all the way

[keen saddle]

anyone else interested in helping me?

[inland sedge]

what do you need?

[keen saddle]

someone to look over a planning thing I'm tinkering with

[inland sedge]

uhhhh sure i am working on a map diagram for red wall but i can look

[keen saddle]

thanks

[vague drum]

I’ll ask

@tough condor @compact briar can my unit fit in the position I want to travel to?

apparently an entire orbital is on the southwest landing pad

[limber minnow]

@prime vessel HOUNDs will be in the building on 3417 3517

[prime vessel]

Ah, I should have checked that. Thank you for letting me know

[tough condor]

Not in a position where I can check ATM unfortunately

[wooden rover]

Hello Redwall! Over here from spearhead, wondering if thought has been put into diverting to Cell’Dar mine with the new intel. Your BG is very defensive focused, would be a good fit. If you did decide to do that, Spearhead would likely be coming to support in the mining transports.

[keen saddle]

uh

we're already prepping for deploy on Elim

[inland sedge]

i would love to take the supplies but i think we need to support Stom this round asap otherwise they might be wiped

[keen saddle]

yeah

[stone igloo]

I thought Ultra was headed that way?

[wooden rover]

Is ultra planning that? Thanks for the heads up, I’ll check in.

[keen saddle]

Ultra is slow either way, with the one speed

[subtle light]

Isn’t there also a dedicated task force to securing the mines?

[limber minnow]

Northern mines, yes.

Southern mines, no. Deemed too risky for most BGs during planning.

[wooden rover]

Spearhead was planning to via Minibg transport, though hitting Elim first

But the new info has plans in the air

[inland sedge]

Orange line: Inf x2, PAI x2, logi truck x1, engi x2
Yellow line: Inf x3, PAI x2, engi x1
Purple line: Inf x1 Med x1, engi x1
Dark red: Art x1
Green: Inf x3, AA tank x1, PAI x1
Pink line: Inf x1, MBT x1
Blue line: Inf x1, Med x1
Starport: Med x1, Logi x1

a rough diagram on where everyone is going so far sorry im on a bad labtop till next week

[inland sedge]

@stone igloo do you still have full supply?

[bitter valley]

Clarification Request, So the green Shapes on the corners of the starport are High Ground yeah. Secondary Clarification request, the hexes account for distance as well as range?

[limber minnow]

Yes and Yes.

Starport Green are also landing pads specifically.

[bitter valley]

Copy, prepping an order to help contain the threat on the NW corner

[stone igloo]

For now. Until Tuano starts eating it.

[inland sedge]

So 6? Sorry just trying to update everything on the spreadsheet

[tribal goblet]

I could use the Elim tacmap if anyone has it

the one in briefing is coming up blurry for me

[tawny cobalt]

Great work thanks!

[tawny cobalt]

Martel pinned it in here I believe

[tough condor]

30/41

@balmy zenith @last narwhal @hallow nimbus @strong kettle @ashen wing

@tribal goblet @jade birch @novel dawn @topaz fable @iron swan @raven flicker

Orders for the round are due in two hours commanders

[novel dawn]

Oh boy

[inland sedge]

you can check above on nap to see where units are going to my understanding we need more help on the NW of the map

[balmy zenith]

yep just got off my flight lol

[novel dawn]

i havent been paying attention. are we already on the ground or do i need to coordinate with a transport

[tribal goblet]

Northwest was my thoughts

[subtle light]

On the ground apparently

Or very soon

[topaz fable]

We deploy this turn

[tribal goblet]

shield wounded and give the bots some hell while I'm at it.

[topaz fable]

don't need transport cause our Civilian ship is docking at the planets starport

[novel dawn]

ok

[tough condor]

Dependent on Atlas killing a bot orbital, but we need them in to be ready if it does happen

[novel dawn]

ill help northwest

[topaz fable]

ah ok

[tawny cobalt]

I believe it was mentioned that half of your movement is used getting down in to the starport, so ya know

[novel dawn]

ok so to avance we stay int he same tile?

[limber minnow]

@tawny cobalt I know I'm not your TCO or even in your BG, but would you be willing to throw up sandbags on the NW Landing Pad around ANGEL (Storm) and your own PAI?

[hallow nimbus]

Ay, we doing stuff!

[tawny cobalt]

I can shift if need be but I believe 3 2 engineers haven't put in orders yet. We have 2 confirmed southbound, 1 confirmed eastbound, and I currently have an order to go northeast

[keen saddle]

I've been working on setting up this unit map we can use to move around units roughly in real time, along with having a copy of the map just to use for drawing up our building plans. please tell me if there's something to improve or correct. Also I've updated it with all orders that have been submitted so far so just make sure I put you in correctly on the map. as we expand out I'll add map sections in at roughly the same size as we go outwards.

One note I have is tags might be tricky to grab so zooming in will help you with moving.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18s8vAj1MnYBhRSPDOXWPgGB3She7pXNhoI_496vgWkg/edit?usp=sharing

should be helpful in visualizing where people are at

[tawny cobalt]

Great Intel, I didn't realize jackdaw was already heading northeast. I can go northwest then perhaps, do we have any PAI going northwest?

[keen saddle]

Pyre and vigil as they are noted on the map

assuming up is north

[tawny cobalt]

May be nice to color code PAI differently from infantry in the future

[limber minnow]

NE? I read that as NW, sorry-

[keen saddle]

I'll update those just a moment

[topaz fable]

@novel dawn we go together my friend

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-mvm-mann-vs-machine-heavy-gif-744033731589083556

[limber minnow]

ohshit

@sterile venture @tawny cobalt You can't stand on the NE Landing Pad, BATTLECRUISER "PICKET LINE" will be docked on it.

ALL UNITS, Keep the starport NE and SW Landing Pads CLEAR. ORBITALS LANDING.

Other pads are still available for units to move on.

[novel dawn]

Together my partially mechanized companion!

[keen saddle]

PAl color fixed

[sterile venture]

Rodger, Can we get to the bottom then or are we stuck on the padws this round?

[tawny cobalt]

I will adjust myself to land and head northwest, especially since it's the only direction without a redwall engi ATM. I don't think I need to make a sandbag round 1 though right? It gives the same benefit as the building or no?

[limber minnow]

The pads themselves aren't in the building.

There's no defense bonus up there, unless you are in the central dome with NOXIMA and Zenok.

[limber minnow]

You can try NW Pad or SE Pad.

You could also try running down the stairs, but it cost our medic unit FATE 0.5 just to get down the stairs, so...

[tawny cobalt]

Ohhhhhhhh that's great intel

[tough condor]

You'll need to resubmit your orders, not edit them

There's no timestamp on edits, so we can't process edited orders

[tawny cobalt]

Yessir sorry just edited to make clear I need to remake it, I'm still trying to figure it out. One other question, if I can make it to the pad and build a wall round 1, how long is a wall? Do I choose one facing on a hex, or could I choose 2?

[tough condor]

Long enough for two infantry squads is the answer from the rules doc

[sterile venture]

I think I will ge to the bottom of the tower, and engage the 3216 as its the only target in range

[tawny cobalt]

Sorry one last question then I'll put it in. Do I have sufficient movement to make it to the edge of the northwest pad and build a sandbag wall there?

[tough condor]

You've got to use .5 to disembark, but that looks fine

[bitter valley]

Fwi, I have order in to set up in that area also, so you should have some cover fire

[sterile venture]

Updated orders done,

[keen saddle]

I'll post the map again later, but there's plenty of PA to cover that corner for the wall building

[compact briar]

Something just came up at work and I will probably not have time to look everyone's orders over before the deadline.

@tough condor Would you be okay with verifying the orders are valid?

[tough condor]

lol, was litterally about to start looking at them

[compact briar]

k. If they have 👍 already, they're good.

They say there's no rest for the wicked, but to be deprived of rest and wickedness alike is dreadfully unfair.

[novel dawn]

Spectres first real battle. Lets hope we dont die immedielty like the training exercise

[topaz fable]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-good-news-good-professor-gif-13624955

@compact briar @tough condor I have added all our missing units to the updated unit roster, so now you can use the new roster for tracking orders, supplies, locations instead of the old one on the landing page. Someone has also added an enemy intelligence page, so I put a table in there with some basic information.

[obtuse charm]

THE GREEN IS HIGH GROUND

Ahhhhhh

[iron swan]

Crap are orders closed ?

[tough condor]

1 hour till they close

[iron swan]

Oh good just in time then

Anywhere we need more PAI?

[hardy saffron]

wouldn’t mind one in the south, currently it’s just me and trench tanking 4 bot units

[tough condor]

either of these spots would be my suggestion

[topaz fable]

go to the battlegroup sheet, then under the document index on the landing page you can find an interactive map of every units order

[iron swan]

Alright I’ll head south west then

[ashen wing]

Orders submitted

Had a busy day today

[keen saddle]

Plugging it again, I did my best to follow all orders, but do revise if I misplaced you

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18s8vAj1MnYBhRSPDOXWPgGB3She7pXNhoI_496vgWkg/edit?usp=sharing

[obtuse charm]

maybe we could get that one pinned too, its handy

[tough condor]

37/41

[keen saddle]

Not bad

[obtuse charm]

thankyou trench

[balmy zenith]

we get some plans in, as a treat

[keen saddle]

Thanks for the pin!

[keen saddle]

I have placed you on the map

[tough condor]

Need you to make an adjustment, starting location at the starport is 3317, you've got it as 3318

[ashen wing]

Ngl I almost napped through order submission 😅

[tough condor]

You'll need to resubmit them real quick

[balmy zenith]

woops! sorry. all the air travel has had me a bit frazzled

[tough condor]

no worries

[balmy zenith]

all done.

[tawny cobalt]

Medic down, medic down!! No wait, they're just sleeping... How do you sleep through this much gunfire?

[meager comet]

Was at work should be fixed now made it at 4 am surprised I didn’t mess more up

[tough condor]

Sorry, forgot something. Deploying is not an order type, it's an action. Advance, Hold and Rush are the order types. Change that real quick and remove the posts that had issues please

@meager comet There's a discrepancy with your orders. You say you're ending at 3216, but your map has you moving to 3316

[balmy zenith]

double checking for my own sanity, but if Im deploying from being towed, would that be under as having advanced, or would it be hold :) that way you don't have to have me correct anything further

(specifically from 3317 to 3318)

[ashen wing]

Did I miss something?

[ashen wing]

Third deployment, you get used to it 😂

[tough condor]

wasn't inteded to be for you

[ashen wing]

Oh okay, just thought it was ‘cause it was below my message 😅

Ngl wouldn’t have been surprised if I missed something. Kinda scrambled to get them up

[meager comet]

i have re submitted

[spice marlin]

It do be a little messy here some times

[ashen wing]

Were you on C2? If not that was pretty messy

[spice marlin]

Unfortunately I was not

[ashen wing]

Yeah that one was fairly messy

Barely qualifies as an organized chaos

[tough condor]

My understanding is that being towed doesn't use your speed, but unhitching and deploying does, so Hold seems to be more appropriate than Advance.

[balmy zenith]

gotcha ok

🫡

[strong kettle]

Hey guys, I'm back. Been out of state for the past week. I miss anything?

[tough condor]

Everything

Need to get your orders in for the round ASAP, Technically the cuttoff was a minute ago

Basically, there's a chance we're deploying this round, and we need the orders in in case we do

[strong kettle]

Crap. I'm sorry.

[tough condor]

No worries, life happens

[strong kettle]

Do you need a base medic unit anywhere in particular?

[topaz fable]

just deploy isnide the starport structure with a hold order

or heal any nearby injured allies

[strong kettle]

Gotcha, I'm so sorry

[topaz fable]

dont worry boss

life happens

[tough condor]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18s8vAj1MnYBhRSPDOXWPgGB3She7pXNhoI_496vgWkg/edit?slide=id.g36c611aec45_0_50#slide=id.g36c611aec45_0_50

This is the current layout of all the orders, so you can see where everyone is placed

[strong kettle]

Thanks. Does that suffice?

[keen saddle]

also place yourself in the map when you up your order in if you like or I'll do it

[strong kettle]

Sorted that.

[tough condor]

Need a location, 3317 is the starport, so if that's where you want to be your orders need to specify

[topaz fable]

@strong kettle
Callsign: Shamen
Unit Type: Medic
Upgrades: N/A

Order Type: Holding
Embarked: Redwall transport, disembarking at Elim starport, 33:17
Activity: Holding, healing any nearby injured infantry

copy paste this

[junior remnant]

You can't edit the order btw, you have to delete it then post it again

[strong kettle]

Thank you. This won't happen again. I'm so so so sorry.

[keen saddle]

stuff happens don't worry about it

[tough condor]

I know you're trying to help, but this is not a valid order. Healing is targeted now

[topaz fable]

oh fr

mb then

dont use that order

[junior remnant]

Just use a hold order I guess

[strong kettle]

Done

[tough condor]

Unit Callsign:
Unit Type:
Upgrades:
Supply:

Order Type:
Movement/Action Tracker:

Starting Location:
Ending Location:
Facing:

RP:

[tough condor]

You're fine, Tac-Coms are able to exorcise their discretion at accepting orders rafter the deadline, and you came in right at it, so getting you sorted out is no problem

[keen saddle]

As we push out from the star port Ill add new slides for sections of the map as we go

[inland sedge]

Huh I didn’t realize healing was targeted now my bad

[tawny cobalt]

Are we going to be able to resupply ourselves from the starport?

[inland sedge]

I think not. Shark said they have large supply in that mine so I’m under the impression they have no supplies here for us so it’s what we carry only

[wary ermine]

Hang on, doesn't building sandbags cost half a speed?

[tough condor]

Crap, you're right. Sandbags are a standard action, and thus require .5 speed

[compact briar]

If you move at all the turn you disembark, you will not be able to take any other actions.

In unrelated news, I'm back. what did I miss?

[tough condor]

We got orders from everyone but two people

[compact briar]

Skimming through, they all look valid

[tough condor]

I didn't any orders, and the ones I checked I spaced on speed consumption, so actions from engineers and medics will need to be verified

[raven flicker]

i have been doing other things could you help me with making an order?

@tough condor

[tough condor]

1 sec

[tough condor]

Unit Callsign:
Unit Type:
Upgrades:
Supply:

Order Type:
Movement/Action Tracker:

Starting Location:
Ending Location:
Facing:

RP:

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/18s8vAj1MnYBhRSPDOXWPgGB3She7pXNhoI_496vgWkg/edit?slide=id.g36c611aec45_0_50#slide=id.g36c611aec45_0_50

That's a diagram of where everyone is, my take would be to move to the NE to join with the other two PA on that side

Caught me while I've got my hands full

[raven flicker]

your good thanks

[compact briar]

Do you want to split the map for this one, Trench?

[tough condor]

Works for me

[compact briar]

I'll take starport and the northern arc, you take southern?

@raven flicker You have given 2 different end locations.

[raven flicker]

i think i fixed it

[tawny cobalt]

my bad, learning. need me to do anything?

[tough condor]

👍

[tough condor]

Will let you know

[tough condor]

@stone igloo You put Hold as your order type, but indicated your position as being in 3318, the starport is in 3317. You need to either not move, or resubmit your orders with the Advance order type to get to where you have indicated.

@finite verge ODT is an Infantry refit, not an upgrade. Please remember to list ODT as your unit type as you have different stats from an Infantry unit

[limber minnow]

Stand Firm

REDWALL, see Attached.

[tough condor]

@compact briar Waiting on a correction, but Southern half is otherwise finished

[finite verge]

Just as a reminder for whoever is doing the google doc, but ODT's are force strength 5. though I see that's not in the FS list for some reason.

[topaz fable]

will ammend

[stone igloo]

Should be fixed

[jade birch]

Goddamit, I missed the deadline

I'm on holidays and the internet is unuseable most of the time

[obtuse charm]

maybe ask trench/martel if you can still do it

it did go from 0 to 100 really fast 😋

[compact briar]

I will process it this time.

[tough condor]

Sent you the southern half @compact briar

[compact briar]

Processing the orders now.

Good Lord but we are about to come down on this starport like the hammer of God.

[bitter valley]

Was that not the plan?

I was under the impression that was the plan given our desire to secure the LZ

How bad was processing the tac map Trench. I know Martel is finalizing the full thing. Just curious how it felt

[tough condor]

Not very.

[bitter valley]

Im glad. I gathered the newer system was not that bad during the last one of these. I just know this stuff is chaotic

[compact briar]

Welp, here's the deployment plan.

[bitter valley]

Hey Martel, I had intended to end up more where this Map from Trench puts me but given how crowded it is up there is am cool with where you put me.

We have plenty of overwatch on the high ground for me to be down there clearing stragglers

And you are correct... we are coming in like a freight train

[topaz fable]

Didn't know I had that much movement...

[bitter valley]

It will be fine

I think

[tough condor]

Framer is missing an Infantry token, ODTs are FS 5

[compact briar]

That's new. My bad.

[limber minnow]

Your Orbital Troop Transport should be docked on the SW Pad, so INF "Raven" can't actually stand there.

well, they could volunteer to be crushed by an orbital, but that sounds like a lot of paperwork for not a lot of benefit

[jade birch]

Is me being in another place intententional?

[compact briar]

There are only so many places we can cram units.

[limber minnow]

Actually, yeah... You should probably add your Orbital Troop Transport being docked on the SW Pad as well.

[jade birch]

Ok

[tough condor]

That's so Raven

[bitter valley]

Looks like the bots are sending fighters down to Elim

[remote lotus]

Yep, the AA on the ground's been hearing radar beep since it's landed.

I fear Storm's going to add a few VTOL shaped grave to the space port

[limber minnow]

Hey, I'll have company in the afterlife!

... We repaired most of our VTOLs, we should be fine. Hopefully.

[remote lotus]

They're pretty well grouped too except East. They're the only ones really in danger. Fingers crossed.

[bitter valley]

Can fighters do strafeing runs on ground targets? I do not remember

[compact briar]

They can

[tough condor]

VTOLs can, but Fighters are purely AA if I haven't brain dumped this morning

[compact briar]

The rule is that they can't spot ground units.

But I distinctly remember our fighter strafing a couple of logi trucks at New Braven.

[remote lotus]

Full intercept, no enemy fighter can fire, damn good job.

[spice marlin]

looks like it'll be a non-issue; the bot fighters got intercepted

[bitter valley]

Nice

[inland sedge]

I’m excited to be on the ground securing the city

Is there a plan for us to hold here and just build up the defenses or go into a section of the city? Also I love the two MBT next to each other that’s scary

[remote lotus]

Plan at first was to continue to Crossroad. We also have most of the other battlegroups landing here so this will quickly become very crowded.

We probably can't stay around the starport whitout creating a trafic jam.

[limber minnow]

Crossroads via?

[remote lotus]

Staight East though LH but with the situation in Elim we're taking it one step at the time

[novel dawn]

So we meed to push out

[compact briar]

The plan is Crossroads/Ziyal. We just so happen to be one of the first BGs on the ground.

[bitter valley]

First we get down, then ensure the other groups will have a star port to land at. The we get moving as fast as possible. Being the first down, we will likely have to help hold it through at least this turn and probably the next

My assessment anyway

[remote lotus]

I guess the question is do we clear the city before moving on or do we just give Storm time to breath before pushing out East ?

iirc we have the only medic with the civilian building so we want to reach Ziyal fast but leaving bots at the back isn't great either.

Do we know when the other BG will land ?

[halcyon peak]

i think we should try and wait until the starport is fully secure, which probably means at least next turn

[tawny cobalt]

Personally I'd like to see 3 objectives completed before we move out

1. clear the area
2. Build defences at the starport, at the civvie aid station, and an outlying strongpoint near the eastern edge of the city
3. Civvie aid station if this is where the wolves want to put it

The outlying checkpoint I think will be useful short-term tactically, and also long-term RP wise as civvies are shuttled back to Elim. A checkpoint on the way in is good for security

[remote lotus]

Depend on how many BG still want to land here but I don't think we should stay until the map is cleared. We're very slow and the longer we take the more the bots gets to grow.

Building some defenses seems like a good idea tho, I don't trust this place not to get attacked.

[inland sedge]

Ok so we build up defenses and move on that’s good for me. What side or map edge are we going to make our way to? I figure we should start grouping up in the next few turns so I know where to start heading after putting up these sandbags on this hill

[remote lotus]

I'd say east. It's a very locked down part of the city with small Line of Sight and lot's of cover so good for inf bad for vics.

Since we're the inf BG we'll be useful and going the right way.

Probably gonna meet heavy resistance tho, it's a lot of Question mark and we're going toward the bots territory.

[halcyon peak]

wouldn't we need to head east to go to crossroads assuming the tac map still has bots on it? or do we just need to head to an edge?

[remote lotus]

I didn't see how to go from tac map to start map in the rules. I'm not sure how we're suposed to do it.

[topaz fable]

Our transport shuttle is speed 3, we are one of the fastest battlegroups.

[tawny cobalt]

Is that continuing beyond our landing at the starport? I assumed we were hoofing it from here

And yeah y'all make good points, full clearing Elim would probably take too long. I stand by my other two thoughts though

I think there would need to be a spaceport in Elim Crossroads for us to take the transport there (maybe?)

[topaz fable]

True, Crossroad's might not have a space port. Now that I think about it we only have 3 logi trucks, not enough to support our 13 infantry or 9 PA.

We definetly are slow

[stone igloo]

We were always going to have to hoof it. We logi were going to have to carry supply.

[stone igloo]

Well...our armored Spearhead went to the mine lol

[tender violet]

Lol so many people went up north I got pushed out. Oh well, still gets the job done

[slow belfry]

holy crap so many people went north lol.

[slow belfry]

Guh. And here i thought i had an easy callsign that wouldnt get shortened lol

[tough condor]

That's just a planning document, full callsign was used for BG map

[tender violet]

I guess I ended up taking your spot and covering your flank instead 😂

[junior remnant]

Yeah lol

Guess I'll be counting on you to cover my flank now

[keen saddle]

name is no longer shortened

[heavy urchin]

Holding the spaceport seems like a vital objective imo even of we can't clear the city by ourselves, so moving towards crossroads before the city is completely safe seems dangerous to our mission.

[subtle light]

We secure the spaceport then push to crossroads

[keen saddle]

space port securing will likely hinge on clearing Elim or waiting for the force that will clear the city

[subtle light]

Yeah

[errant moth]

I really hope all those ? directly west are otters and not bots or my squad will be

[meager comet]

soooooo uhhhhh what the plan since venator left us?

[spice marlin]

We Hold. The. Line.

[remote lotus]

In the old tradition of the infantry, we complain, we grumble, we joke, and we wait for high com to get it's shït together.

[halcyon peak]

originally our plan was to land at ziyal and hold, now we're landing at elim and holding, so not all that different

[last narwhal]

same job, just a new coat of paint

[keen saddle]

we were just moved a little to the left right?

[errant moth]

just slightly 😂

[bitter valley]

It does appear that those ? icons are closer to what Trench said they might be so hopefully no all of them are more bots

[compact briar]

The plan has never changed. We arrive, we dig in, we fight. We continue until there's no bots left on the planet.

That said, it might actually be faster to fully clear Elim City and fast-travel out than walk to the edge of the map as a battlegroup.

[noble vigil]

So I hear y'all are considering fortifying Elim

[compact briar]

Only while we're here.

The plan has always been to push to Ziyal.

We're just fighting and fortifying along the way.

Like the March to the Sea, but in the opposite direction. And with combat engineers.

[slow belfry]

We are Patton's army, cutting our way through the enemy positions

but with less armor

[strong kettle]

Wait, what happened to Venator?

[stone igloo]

They decided to go for the side objective.

[tough condor]

They're using the grav lift at the mine to deploy and rush Ziyal

[bitter valley]

I wish them luck

[subtle light]

Nobody:
The singular SPAA we have:

Clear the skies

https://tenor.com/view/world-in-conflict-shilka-anti-air-gif-1206892096967880376

[sterile venture]

WiC, ah I need to play that game again at some point

[subtle light]

https://tenor.com/view/world-in-conflict-war-military-gif-2375647107291300530

[sterile venture]

That game had some really good cutscenes tbh, some of them do not look like they are from a 07 game

[meager comet]

time for the drop

[compact briar]

See you on the other side, lads and lasses

Eulalia!

[limber minnow]

Let's hope this is enough to turn the tides...

[vague drum]

red wall is coming

[tender violet]

https://tenor.com/view/rohirrim-gif-19370656

[subtle light]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-episode2-attack-of-the-clones-arena-clones-gif-22152243

[limber minnow]

The signals are lit. ELIM calls for aid.

[obtuse charm]

https://tenor.com/bLmDN.gif

[topaz fable]

thats us boys

[obtuse charm]

Time to start blasting

[tough condor]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-guns-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-17984271

[topaz fable]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers2-democracy-slowmo-playstation-arrowhead-gif-15041105772636478144

[bitter valley]

Armor locked, Weapons loaded, Here we go

[last narwhal]

Helmets on, Armor affixed, Weapons loaded, SPG fueled, Buckets stowed, Targeting systems calibrated, Sandwiches made, Orders written on back of hand, Butt clenched. Here we go

[agile moon]

Yo. We're debating options. Are you guys good to hold the port solo? We're considering loading back up and heading elsewhere

[compact briar]

Probably

[remote lotus]

The discussion seemed to be going toward clearing the city before moving on so probably.

[bitter valley]

Lets see how this round pans out before anyone does anything drastic

[compact briar]

If you can use your mobility to help clear Elim so we don't have to physically march to the map border, it would really help

[remote lotus]

Yeah we can clear the East and West of the city in good time but going to the outskirt is going to be time consuming.

[limber minnow]

eyes the other BGs that will be jumping into the AO

Dear Zeus Hades, this will be a coordination nightmare.
||Hades instead of Zeus since T13C is dead||

[prime vessel]

Ah... did me trying to heal Hounds go through?

[topaz fable]

Potentally

[tough condor]

Still being resolved

[prime vessel]

Gotcha, just didn't see that Hounds had regained any FS while the Redwall and Storm Midrounds went through.

[tribal goblet]

"This is Cirrus, Thanks for having our back boys! Gunner, load canister, show these bots what tank sized buckshot can do!"

[compact briar]

Good work with the Skyboxer.

[inland sedge]

Having 3 fighters crash down next to me is crazy scary. But maybe I can grab their parts……

[vernal pilot]

This could be a good opportunity to see what the fighters specs are. Is it a regular fighter or is there something different about it? Also, are they having it be a full AI of his own or is a ground unit commanding it

[bitter valley]

So... NW is secure. Looks like we need a medic Stryker and an Engi for me

[compact briar]

I think Redwall's next step should be securing the area around the starport while the others clear Elim.

At the least, we should build fortifications, and get the CCP and MASH set up.

Rescue civilians, etc.

I can have a map of fortification sites up later.

[fringe anchor]

If needed storm could help you move units around since were probably stay a round to heal the ground part

[bitter valley]

Oh no... The Bots are building things

Sounds like whatever it is is at the crossroads

[ashen wing]

Wow things are popping off today holy crap

I'm holding at the spaceport right now, does anyone need aid?

[obtuse charm]

I think we're off to a good start

[subtle light]

guess where we plan to be heading to

[wooden vault]

How long are we thinking of sticking around for in elim?

[meager comet]

well it depends on how many bgs stick with landing in elim

venator already re routed

storm is already talking about leaving

[wooden vault]

Yea we might have to clear it then

[meager comet]

fs is at the lp

same with ultra

[stone igloo]

As the biggest infantry unit we should be pushing into the Crossroads.

[meager comet]

we should but its looking so far were the only ones that are landing here now

[wooden vault]

Would It be faster to walk all the way over than to clear elim and move on the strategic map?

[compact briar]

We should, but it will take less time to wait until Elim City is cleared so we can direcly move on the strategic map than walking to the edge of the map.

[wooden vault]

I think its worth it to search for civvies and kill the rest of the bots

[compact briar]

Plus, we have lots of engineers, the Medical Corps with a field hospital, and a CCP upgrade on one of our medics.

So we can do some civilian engagement.

[meager comet]

phalanx is debating landing here

thats all ive seen besides us

[compact briar]

Hypothetically, if the Shovels and 212th get to crossroads before us, they can build an airfield and then airlift us over via sortie.

[fringe anchor]

Please don’t try to marry the locals wait til after the war

[meager comet]

atlas is heading to crossroads

its looking like it will be us and phalanx staying here for the moment

[wooden vault]

Bots are at crossroads according to midrounds

[prime vessel]

Damn didn't get the heal on Hounds :/
Wait, is setting up a Field Hospital or Civie Aid Station a primary action or no? Because if its not I might be able to set one up next turn?

[tulip zephyr]

The last mid-round post says the Spaceport is secured but they want 3 BGs to hold the city and finish sweeping. We're already on the ground and here. I think we should honour the request. Hold the city, rescue citizens, build fortifications, and finish sweeping the city.

[limber minnow]

INF kinda suck at pushing in game - I would honestly prefer RABBIT or VENATOR instead.

RABBIT has already declared intent, and ATLAS will follow later.

[hardy saffron]

good work redwall we won!!!

first battle down

are we staying in elim or heading out to crossroads

[tulip zephyr]

Plenty of ? Marks on the Elim map to clear.

[keen saddle]

Sounds like the former over the latter

[meager comet]

it looks like staying at elim for 2 turns before we can move

[vernal pilot]

We need to stay.

[stone igloo]

I think the biggest question we need to ask ourselves is: Is there anything that the whole operation gains by remaining?

Remaining here seems pointless. The adjacent tiles are being taken or investigated, we are about to to have orbital supremacy in this region, and units pushing towards bot held regions.

We should clear the city, then begin moving toward map edge to cross into Crossroads. By that point we should have a better idea of the Strategic picture.

[limber minnow]

Please do help clear the city, yes.

Be advised HAMMER will also be doing so. They will be focusing mostly on S/SW, pending an update.

[meager comet]

from a moral stance a whole lot which might impact end of campaign rewards if we do a bang up job

from a tactical stance staying a turn minimum wont impact the war effort in any way that we know of right now and we can heal storm up in the mean time increasing the firepower armco can bring to the field not to mention whatever we can find in the city wich might give us an edge in the fight at cross roads

plus we kind of need at least a turn to reorganize before we move out anyways we might aswell help the civilians out while doing that

[stone igloo]

Yeah, that I agree to for sure

[limber minnow]

Yeah, STORM will be doing R&R

[meager comet]

we should probably coordinate with storm on whose staying in place on the north west so that we can swing the majority of the forces over to the east and clear the majority of the marks

[limber minnow]

I am currently putting together a spreadsheet that will be distributed to all the battle groups and task forces that will be operating in the AO in this turn.

[meager comet]

i plan on getting into the building at 3315 and covering that road idk how many units can garrison a building but we should probably set a perimeter up

[ashen wing]

Righto, I’ll follow a square behind so I’m close by but no on the front directly yet

I can fight for the additional Damage if necessary buut I is squishy

[compact briar]

Alright, poll time.

[limber minnow]

BATTLEGROUPS OPERATING IN ELIM GROUND AO

A new tab, "CONTACTS" has been added to the Elim Ground Coordination Sheet.

If you can make it to an unknown contact, please investigate it. Make sure to mark yourself down as investigating that contact.

NOTE: Multiple people can investigate an unknown contact - however, please try to take an unclaimed contact first.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TlipG7FZis_Y_igHiP6BRMkMDG7mIVoyPAWfzlBYvx8/edit?usp=sharing

[vague drum]

our mission was to march on ziyal I say we keep to that objective

[inland sedge]

That was our main focus before we hit the enemy. We need to adapt I say we fortify the city and be one of the 3 who stays for right now. We can always advance if we need to but having a main base of operations so we can actually leave the planet is important. Is anyone in need of an engineer? If not I’ll ask storm if they need help

[spice marlin]

Unless other groups are also moving out, I don't think it would be worthwhile for us to stick around in Elim.
We detoured to aid Storm, and now we're not needed here

[halcyon peak]

afaik we detoured to land at a spaceport, and i think staying and helping civvies is gonna be good for us

[limber minnow]

VTOLs should be okay. We wouldn't say no to help, but I'm pretty sure you guys also have things to do.

[limber minnow]

what detour, you literally couldn't land without the spaceport-

[errant moth]

Yeah, we had to land here. Let's clear the map and see what has happened by then.
After that, we can march or be airlifted wherever we need (crossroads most likely)

[novel dawn]

hMM

so what we doing now

[inland sedge]

The only thing I can think of doing is putting some sandbags down at the edge of 3318 but repairing anyone is more important so come join me on the hex and I’ll fix someone up

[noble vigil]

Is Droes T1 in the Northwest of Elim City y'all's LM?

[inland sedge]

We don’t have a light mech in our group

[keen saddle]

We can prep the defenses with the map section for building but we’ll see how the advance is rolling

[ornate crow]

'Sup fellas? Ya plannin' to secure Elim, or move out?

[meager comet]

i think were at a minimum forced to spend a turn securing after that i have no idea

up to everyone else i suppose

[ornate crow]

given the positioning, I felt like offering a short-ranged deployment turn for Prodigy, perhaps towards the civilian convoy/bots killing civvies SE

[hardy saffron]

i’ll input that as my order that’s a good idea

[tawny cobalt]

I believe I'm just close enough to make it to you with half my movement and use the other half to repair

may need martel or trench to confirm if you'd need to move back for me to make it to you

[ornate crow]

What I want to confirm with Redwall's plan is whether or not that would leave you out of position for the BG's movment in the following turns.

[hardy saffron]

i don’t think so, we will be clearing the remainder of elim city for the rest of the round

[rose ocean]

Anyone know what Stich the medics plans are for next turn?

Phalanx is landing on the east side and we can supply some heals as well

[open spruce]

Hi red wall, I am Talon 1 apart of Storm. I am here asking if anyone needs a supply drop off.

[meager comet]

I don’t think we used any supply although I’m not 100 on that

[ornate crow]

didn't the arty use some supply

[inland sedge]

@prime vessel are you putting up the FH in the city or holding it for later?

[limber minnow]

Yes, but they have a LOGITRUCK right next to them, I'm not that concerned about that.

[ashen wing]

Right now I’m gonna wait and see what the other medics are doing

If can be freed up to move with the infantry then that’ll be ideal for me since I can do frontline support and combat for the extra damage

I have a CCP that can Evac civies as well so maybe deploy it then move on since I was able to confirm I can move while my CCP is deployed

[limber minnow]

Units on the Starport Landing Pads

Clear off, we don't need you guys being crushed by orbitals.

[rose ocean]

Phalanx incoming😝

[ornate crow]

@hardy saffron I'm still willing to give you a ride somewhere this turn, but it seems Iron Hammer has those SE bots in hand.

[bitter valley]

At a bare minimum you will want to clear off that landing pad. We can work out a meeting point in the morning

[limber minnow]

MEDIC @prime vessel ,

Are you planning on setting up a field hospital? Id so, where?

[hardy saffron]

how do you feel about taking me to hex 3617? some good buildings to explore there, especially if you could fit the pai titan in your bays too

[ornate crow]

Yes, I can fit you both. My 5 movement would be 0.5 to load each of you, 0.5 to take off, 3 to move and 0.5 to land. So you'll each have the 0.5 to disembark and 0.5 to advance or dig in or whatever you're doing.

Something like this? I think that's a wall on the south of that building, so maybe you could take the high ground south of where I land, or alternatively I could land in 3517 and you could enter the building from the west?

I don't know whether I can land on any of that high ground or not.

[rose ocean]

You can have fun with us in Phalanx then😝

[hardy saffron]

@tough condor how do you feel about this plan? sound good to you?

[hardy saffron]

sounds like it’s a go for me and titan

[hardy saffron]

@inland sedge i’ll meet back up with you after the breach and clear - wouldn’t want you to die to stray shots

[ashen wing]

Think I’m gonna head East where that cluster of Infantry is

Seeing a few mid HP units so if any needs a heal just let me know since I’ll be headed that way with the group

[subtle light]

Are we doing our next set of orders now?

[heavy urchin]

I don't think any of our arty, myself included, used up any supply?
Edit: ok reading back it seems like in all the chaos around the starport some artillery fire happened so I guess atleast some supply was used 😅

[slow belfry]

I can barely tell what happened lol

I think.... I think my unit got a little hurt lol

I think Vikingr face tanked 4 dudes xD

Okay looks like i did and then lost 4 FS

A hell of an opening move for Vikingr

[tough condor]

You were the only infantry unit in range, so the enemy infantry prioritized you is what it looks like. Something to watch for in the future, staying grouped with other infantry squads let you split that damage so it isn't so devastating to a single squad

[slow belfry]

Yeah, i thought people would prioritise south since it had the most enemies lol

I just didnt think i would be the only one trying to reinforce the unit to the southwest

But hey, i saved those three dudes so its a win. Took the fire they probably would have taken otherwise.

[remote lotus]

Hey @spice marlin, you wanna come with me toward the building south east of our position ? It'll put us in the way of our scout that are coming back.

Because of the .25 to enter we can't go in this turn but we can reach those two building in 4 turn and be in cover for turn 3.

If we RP that we're knocking and asking we might get shot at or get to know if the interrogation point are civies.

[sterile venture]

Morning everyone, so what side of the city are we focusing on?

[wooden vault]

So far people are going east and south east not sure if we're focusing there specifically

[obtuse charm]

I was thinking of checking out 3018 question marks and maybe getting eyes on 2917

[sterile venture]

Might push into 3117 and support ODDS in checking that area. unless we are planning on sticking to a direction as a BG.

[wooden vault]

was thinking the same although I might sit tight and wait for a medic

[rose ocean]

Everyone on the map is going to get healing of some sort next round

[rose ocean]

Our medics in Phalanx are going to get you healed up next turn. Stay in 3417 so we are able to reach you though. We are losing most our movement loading off the transport

[cinder flare]

Hello hello, first message ever here, hi redwall ! 🟥

I will share this question here aswell 👀

[obtuse charm]

i don't see why not

[obtuse charm]

hello

[cinder flare]

Helloooooo

Redwall added in, you guessed it, red color !

Also jealous of your PAI boys 👀

Vikingr in south-east seems to have taken a slight beating.

[obtuse charm]

they did too, i didn't notice that

its good we have lots of medics handy

[spice marlin]

Sure, we'll wander with you

[stone igloo]

@balmy zenith content where you are? Or would you like me to reposition you?

[junior remnant]

@tender violet wanna push up with me and check out the big question mark?

we can maybe clear some houses on the way

[last narwhal]

Ill be honest, at this point im struggling to identify enemy targets underneath the mass of armco that has arrived. Lol

[subtle light]

So are we doing the next turns orders now or what

[obtuse charm]

I put mine in just in case

[inland sedge]

Sounds good to me I’ll sit tight and camp

[subtle light]

I love how my unit shows up and the battle is almost immediately over… as if missing like 10 separate operations beforehand wasn’t enough

[compact briar]

Redwall engineers: see below diagram for end-goal fortifications. Blue is trench lines, Yellow is razor wire, Red is tank traps.

If you're good with this plan, respond with a 🔨

[subtle light]

Seems reasonable

Just out of curiosity as an infantry unit what can we actually make in terms of defenses or is that a purely engineer thing

[rose ocean]

It’s probably worth talking with pathfinder to some degree. Yesterday they said their plan was to make fortifications in like 3717 as a fallback point

[compact briar]

Pathfinder is at the Listening Post, though

[rose ocean]

Are they? Well then idk what that was about yesterday then

My bad

[wary ermine]

Alright, where do you guys want sandbags at? Just around the starport or elsewhere?

[compact briar]

See diagram

[tender violet]

Sounds good to me, that’s the direction I was thinking of heading anyways

[strong kettle]

Ok, two questions:

1: When is the next set of orders due?
2: Do we have any wounded within movement distance of Shamen? I haven't quite worked out how to tell who's wounded and who isn't yet. I'm sorry, this is my first game, I'm learning and it's been a hot minute since I read the rulebook.

[jade birch]

People with black models are wounded

[inland sedge]

I’ll start with putting up the sandbags on 3318 and see if I can check out any of the bot fighter remains

[sterile venture]

Yea I probs will assist ODDS with the investigation in 3117, they moved towards us so chances are they are hostile.

From there I can move to support on 3018 or 3016

[strong kettle]

Thanks 🙂

I'm thinking Shamen might push out towards Hounds and see if we can't help them out. I have a movement speed of one, which I'm translating to one hex in my head so I THINK I have the speed to get to them and heal them some. They're pretty banged up. Unless I'm wrong?

My other option is to setup over near Dawn and Jackdaw since they don't have a medic unit at all there yet.

[slow belfry]

Roger that Phalanx, appreciate it.

[rose ocean]

Yep np

[finite verge]

So are there any bots left in the city and do we have an updated map of the city for contacts?

[balmy zenith]

happy where I am

[hardy saffron]

there might be bots in the buildings with questions marks - we are going to explore them and after staying for 3 turns we will head out to crossroads

[balmy zenith]

well, excluding when we move in about 3ish turns but otherwise I'll be happy for where I am right now

[noble vigil]

Were any of your ground units planning on scouting the huge "?" in the northwest?

[cinder flare]

Hey, that's our emote !

[vernal pilot]

Should I go East? (I am Samuel.)

[errant moth]

That's the plan for me. Do we clear one square at a time (unless more units link up with us)?

[sterile venture]

I think we can only move one hex unless we rush anyway.

Hopefully we get eyes on the other hex anyway when we move up

[errant moth]

Oh, for sure.
Who does PAI Ignite belongs to?

[vernal pilot]

Remind me, how much movement is two speed?

[compact briar]

@wary ermine mind including a diagram of the trench line?

[stone igloo]

I saw a ping, but I don't actually see it 🤔

[vernal pilot]

Would this the maximum movement of the tank?

Or can I move more?

[finite verge]

any issues with me (Framer) moving to 3118? and is anyone else moving west?

[wary ermine]

I would love to, but I'm stuck on mobile.

[errant moth]

ODDS (inf) and Arvin (PAI) are moving west to 3117 to investigate that contact and the triple-A tank is going 3017 so if it spots any enemy in 3018 chances are their going to advance towards him and you get a visual too.

[compact briar]

OK. Is this the trenchline you had in mind?

[meager comet]

Orders are due every Wednesday and Sunday

[errant moth]

Actually,you might be able to use some movement to gain the sliver of high ground in 3118 and set up for a later move in 3017. Height adv is always good

[wary ermine]

If that's the length then I'm gonna have to rewrite my turn. I thought trenches went from one end of the hex to another.

[compact briar]

Half a range.

[meager comet]

Also is there any inf on the north side of the star port that isn’t going to check out a marker available?

[wary ermine]

Hm... damn, wish Engineers could use their primary to build another set of sandbags.

[finite verge]

I'm guessing you mean to move like this and face towards 3018?

[errant moth]

If height change takes half movement, I think you can get to the other, closer corner

[vernal pilot]

@errant moth ?

(tanks have two speed

[obtuse charm]

I think with 2 speed you can move 2 hexs

Your movement looks good

[errant moth]

Apologies, missed that

[tawny cobalt]

Will follow the plan, only question is those double lines aren't double walls are they? Cant we just upgrade to trench and not need to double?

[bitter valley]

Would an Engi be able (Rules wise) to meet me here for repairs. If so, could I get one to do so please

[strong kettle]

I just submitted my orders. I don't know who owns the Hounds, but I'm gonna try to heal them

[keen saddle]

Pretty sure they’re a Storm bg unit

[remote lotus]

Rule says Infantry can dig trenches where Engi have put sandbags

You can't shoot if you do it tho

[wary ermine]

Okay, new plan is to build two sandbags and upgrade one to a trench, may change it to building three sandbags if I get an answer to my question in meta comm.

[keen saddle]

what are we feeling on this plan?

[tawny cobalt]

each one of those uses half your movement I think

[keen saddle]

also I'll get on updating the map with fresh orders

[tawny cobalt]

yeah I'm pretty sure that's within half a movement of me, meaning I'll have the other half to repair. Only part that may muck that up if going down from the high ground takes extra movement

[wary ermine]

According to the sandbag rules all infantry can upgrade one to a trench as their primary action.

[tawny cobalt]

right, thought you were saying you would build multiple bags and upgrade one in one turn but I may have misunderstood

[wary ermine]

No, that's what I was saying.

Rules say that the primary action doesn't use speed.

[tawny cobalt]

for sure thanks for the clarification, does that mean you can't advance? which would kind of work out the same if that's the case

[wary ermine]

And Engineers count in "all infantry" to mu knowledge, so two builds and one upgrade.

[wary ermine]

Yes, all speed would be used making sandbags.

[tawny cobalt]

gotcha yeah that's where the disconnect was. 👍

[compact briar]

The double lines are back-to-back trenches: trenches only gain cover from one direction.

[wary ermine]

Okay, back at my PC now. New action incoming.

[tender violet]

what do you think of this idea: we fill that gap on this turn since its as much movement as we will probably be able to use safely, then the next turn we try to look into those houses above the road. I feel like the question marks on the road is another civ convoy like in the south but just in case we will hold the road like a checkpoint and not push too far up to limit exposure to the buildings (at least the farther one) and the potential of getting shot at from them.

if those question marks are enemies we would need to probably fall back tho

[topaz fable]

I can clear the building above those two next turn, I am also making my way towards the large question mark.

Question marks are anything, enemies, civilians, nothing. Thats why someones gotta clear em

[tender violet]

ok good that will help

[tender violet]

also which one? the one at 3715 or the whole northern complex one?

[topaz fable]

Ah the building above those two at 35:15 doesn't have a question mark

[warped oriole]

Does anyone at present have any need of supplies ?

[topaz fable]

In that case I'll prolly just head straight towards 37:15, moving like this.

that way if there are any enemies we can quickly collapse on them

[subtle light]

Ahhh

How do we know how much supply we have

[topaz fable]

check the BG doc

if people have been updating their unit on their
||which they should be >:(((||

then we should be able to keep an accurate count

[vague drum]

I want to check these markers out anyone want to join?

[stone igloo]

We Logi shouldn't have used any yet, but that'll change when arty starts firing

[ashen wing]

We submitting orders today?

I’ve been run off my feet already

[remote lotus]

Just me doing a bad crop, the supply is for the sandbag. Inf don't have supply but we don't need any to just dig.

[subtle light]

Oh

[compact briar]

Order's aren't due till Sunday

And as Zaratous has pointed out, if Engineers use both construct actions to build sandbags, 2 other Infantry can upgrade to a trench the same turn.

[ashen wing]

Thanks bud! I’m struggling to keep up

[glass walrus]

are we in a new turn or is it still the same turn we made touchdown?

[compact briar]

New turn

[glass walrus]

awww shiii

[obtuse charm]

I'll be in 3017 next turn so I'll be nearby

[glass walrus]

ill advance to 3516 to visually confirm unknown contacts

[compact briar]

If you don't mind some advice, you might want to set up the CCP and start treating ARMCO and civilians.

[subtle light]

not sure where to go from pushing NE

[tender violet]

going along with this: since we have Vigil and Penance moving in the area as well, it should be relatively safer to move here so ill submit my order to do so and will change it later if things need changing

[subtle light]

feel like if I try and help civvies its going to end up with them shooting at my units

being synthetics and all

[ashen wing]

I was saying yesterday that I was gonna do that then move east with the cluster of infantry

If someone doesn’t mind posting a current map of our AO I can see better where I can set it up and where I’ll be going

[errant moth]

Me and Arvin are going to 3117 this turn if you want to help/cover us

[vague drum]

yep sure

[compact briar]

I'm planning on building sandbags here this turn. Any infantry want to help turn them into trenches?

[subtle light]

I could help maybe but it might be funnier to try and look for civvies

https://tenor.com/view/robot-congratulations-you-are-rescued-please-gif-17932648

[obtuse charm]

Im playing as battle droids so I'm all for you joining in

[wooden vault]

Could I get a medic to heal me if possible?

[inland sedge]

Question how large are the sandbags because when looking at the ones concrete Pete put up they look like .5 space so 2 would fill up one hex edge. Or is it one sandbag wall per edge so two (1 supply worth) would be 2 edges like in frosts order

[compact briar]

I've been going with .5 per wall segment

The rule is just "large enough for 2 infantry squads"

[fringe anchor]

two infantry squads long

So about half a hex length

Which I think is a decent way of viewing the rules

[tulip zephyr]

I have seen no requests for supplies from the Logitrucks. I also have not seen much in supplies being expended by Medics or Engineers. I'm just trying to figure out a good hex to base myself to hand out supplies. If there is not a good spot for that then I would suggest basing my truck by the artillery units in case they want a tow in the next couple of turns.

[ashen wing]

Think I’ll be setting up a CCP just outside the port

3318

[subtle light]

Still unsure as to what I should do

[compact briar]

I could always use someone to help expand trenchlines

[wary ermine]

I could use the help.

Also, just to be sure, which trench pattern do we want around the starport?

[remote lotus]

This is the fortification goal we have.

I'm unsure how it translate to "reality"

[wary ermine]

Okay but that frankly isn't going to happen. We have six engineers and three logi trucks, giving us a best case total of 48 buildables.

Less if anyone else needs to resupply.

[halcyon peak]

i mean, we're gonna be here for at least a few turns

[last narwhal]

can our vehicles cross the trenches? i dont recall if we need to build a tank bridge in this version or not. i think it would be silly if we trapped all of our armor inside the port

[wary ermine]

I'm not seeing anything about it in the rules.

Given Power Armor Infantry are too big to hide in trenches I don't think they're wide enough to hinder vehicles.

[keen saddle]

hey guys can you update the map with where you are moving I'll get another section of map ready by tomorrow

[keen saddle]

I can get started on either one, though if anyone needs repairs and can get to patcher I can do that

[wary ermine]

Trenchlines/sandbags are red lines. Plan 1 needs 22 sandbags and trench segments, plan 2 needs 32 of them.

Slight edit to the two plans so they don't show trenches going through buildings. The edits don't change the cost any.

[halcyon peak]

it's important to note that infantry can use their primary action to upgrade a sandbag to a trench for (as i read the rule) 0 supply

[remote lotus]

Still cost at least 22 supplies

[wary ermine]

I know, I'm only counting the sandbag cost.

I'll do a barbed wire and tank trap plan when we get the trench layout hammered out.

[remote lotus]

Are we sure we want to conect the entire network ? That means that if a single trench gets takane we lose dug in bonus against all the bots that gets in.

[wary ermine]

I thought that was per segment, not for the whole network.

[remote lotus]

You might be right but I'm unsure. It would be logical to void the dug in bonus of neighboring trenches too but it doesn't specify network or trenches...

If it's about line of sight like it sound like, no need for cuts

[wary ermine]

Okay, it's per straight line of trenches.

[keen saddle]

guys, uh you need to make a break in the wire and tank traps for friendlies

[remote lotus]

Infantry can get in though the buildings, but a tank trap gate does seem necessary.

Find a place where we can put tank traps like that in range of cover so they have to take a flank shot to go through.

[wary ermine]

Slight modification to break up straight lines. Point totals are unchanged unless I miscounted, so the outer line is still 22 supply, adding support and fallback segments makes it 32.

[keen saddle]

How long do we intend to stay here for?

[wary ermine]

We'll need 2-3 turns just to build the outer line of trenches, and we've got basically no reason to stick around once forces land at Crossroads and Nery's Village unless there's an army hiding out at L-H.

I say we bring in the other battlegroups here on the fortification plan, get the trenches and some tank traps laid while the buildinds are searched, then haul ass to Crossroads or Nerys.

[keen saddle]

also how much of our supply do we want to spend here and now?

[wary ermine]

Oh shit, that reminds me, we need to spend speed to pull supplies off of trucks.

It's gonna take 5 turns at minimum to build the outer trenches on our own.

[remote lotus]

Get infantry to pull for you ?

[wary ermine]

Can they do that?

[slow belfry]

Im planting my butt right where i am and digging in, waiting for heals. 2FS isnt going to be helpful at the moment.

[remote lotus]

Sorry for the delay, forgot I posted. Looking at the rules it's the Logi trucks that have to pay the speed to give the supplies not the Engies to pull them so it shouldn't slow the construction if both coordinate.

[wary ermine]

Oh.

[dense hedge]

same, out of the entire group of units going NE my unit gets almost killed

[warped oriole]

How much speed does it cost for logi trucks to give supplies ?

[stone igloo]

We have three Logi. And imo this is a waste of supplies

[remote lotus]

0.5 to fully supply a unit.

[remote lotus]

It depend if we have a source of supply available or not. If not it may be a bit premature but if we do small supply are free.

[stone igloo]

Each Logi should be carrying 10 a piece, so thirty total.

Excluding other BG Logi present

[remote lotus]

If anyone intend to put an HQ or current supply doesn't matter, it can be refilled for free. If no one does we might want to stretch it out until we have a source.

[stone igloo]

I believe most of the Construction Engis are headed to Crossroads to build an airfield. But in the past Starports had unlimited supplies.

[warped oriole]

So what should logitrucks be doing this turn ? Hitching artillery this turn and heading in the same direction as the engineers ?

[stone igloo]

For the moment, either positioning them to the northeast as cover or the same for the east. The three southern artys should be able to attack any enemies that appear. However, since none have fired, none need supplies.

Our other option is to travel with the Engineers to provide supplies for their building and repair efforts. Same deal for the Medics.

I wouldn't stray to far from the starport though until more of the city is revealed/cleared

[compact briar]

I would like to get that high ground in the bottom right and top left covered by trenches.

Also, according to taccom chat

[vernal pilot]

( do I need to change my order to just say hunt down bots?)

[compact briar]

I think it's more that you aren't as limited by normal movement speed

[mortal chasm]

Y'all got this one? None of Atlas is nearby

[tulip zephyr]

I will write orders to follow medic and engineers handling out supplies.

Trench, I will be away on an island next week and will not be able to put in the Wednesday order (at least I don't think I will have Internet). I don't know what to do in that case. Sorry, family vacation.

[subtle light]

Callsign: 01
Unit Type: Infantry
Upgrades: None
Embarked: N/A

Order Type: Advance
Activity: Engage hostiles if present, Hold fire otherwise

Start: 3316
End: 3415
Facing: E towards the unknowns

Checking if this is a good order

[stone igloo]

Yeah!

[heavy urchin]

So is there any specific group that needs some arty support around the starport or should we hold and see what elde might come our way?

[novel dawn]

Wait... why is vigil and i so fara way from eachother when i was following him?

hes north when i swear i put in the same movement directions he did

@topaz fable did ya change your orders?

[subtle light]

agreed, other groups are pushing towards both mines so pushing to crossroads to secure that would be good once we sweep the city clear

[tribal goblet]

hmm.

orders for 11pm.

someone ping me at like 10 to remind me

or something

[slow belfry]

Active fighting has died down, but we have some bogies in a building to the south south-east, Hex 3520, threatening a native convoy.

and a whole lot of unknown

Holy crap. Hex 3520, 4 toasters and three locals in a building

i didnt even see the locals

[topaz fable]

Too many people in one area last round so I was moved North-East by our TACCOM

https://tenor.com/view/with-without-you-sponge-bob-greasyspoon-gif-24705196

[drowsy thicket]

anyone know when round 4 closes? it feels like it's ended but it hasnt

[tough condor]

Round 5 closes in 2 hours

[rose ocean]

We are on turn 5 player order submissions close in 2 hours ish

[tough condor]

@compact briar I didn't misread/misremember, Shack just wants what everyone is doing, he doesn't need/want a map this time correct?

[jade birch]

Reminder ping

[compact briar]

I think so?

[spice marlin]

@prime vessel #1385617231622176928 message are you rushing? I don't think you can rush and do an action if you rush, and you also have plenty of movement, you could reach that spot just with advance order

[tribal goblet]

thank youkindly

[inland sedge]

@compact briar isn’t it only one supply is used per 2 sandbag segments ?

[prime vessel]

Only says that you can't attack when you rush in the rules, just mainly worried about not having enough to set up the Field Hospital, and it doesn't seem that theres much danger in doing so.

[spice marlin]

Rushing doesn't give you extra actions

[inland sedge]

It doesn’t give you more primary actions but it does say actions are dictated as your speed and it does double your speed so it might?

[spice marlin]

Rushing doesn't increase speed, only movement from speed

[prime vessel]

Yeah, so if I move 0.5, it only cost me 0.25 instead.

[spice marlin]

Ok

[prime vessel]

Of movement. As far as I'm aware, setting up a Field Hospital or Civie aid station costs 0.5 movement like engineer buildings since they are not Primary Actions. So that's why im rushing

[inland sedge]

I actually thought rushing would give you 2 movement instead of making everything cost less

Like base speed is 1 now you can more 2. And if base speed was 2 you can move 4

[prime vessel]

Yeah... That would be a little broken for Engineers and the like, since they could just build twice as much stuff a turn if that was the case

wait i just realised I say dash instead of rush, gonna fix that in my orders

[spice marlin]

It doesn't necessarily give you 2 movement. It can, but Shack has said that you don't have to use your full movement in rush, only that you have to move at all. So, you can use 0.5 speed rushing to move 1 hex, and still have speed left over to do an action (like what Wolfe is doing)

[prime vessel]

bruh im braindead rn, reposted order the literal exact same

I am suffering right now, my brain is just going through like every itteration of the ruleset except this current one :/

[spice marlin]

#meta-comm message

That's kinda the start of his clarification on what rushing does

[prime vessel]

Damn, you've got the reciepts

[spice marlin]

It was something I had to keep in mind when I was running a mission

[keen saddle]

I’ll work on updating the interactive map later, I got started with adding the new sections in for the north last night and I’ll get the rest later

[compact briar]

1 supply per segment, each segment is long enough for 2 infantry squads

[inland sedge]

Ohhhhh ok thank you

[compact briar]

@wary ermine you can only take 2 construct actions per turn, right now you have 3 listed.

[wary ermine]

All infantry can use their primary action to upgrade a sandbag section to a trench. Primary actions don't cost speed.

[balmy zenith]

When are orders due again?

ah

[rose ocean]

40 minutes

[wooden vault]

So we're not limited by movement right now?

[stone igloo]

Yes, but no. Cap said we just need to spend the turn intentionally clearing the area for it to be cleared of hostiles.

[wooden vault]

Ah so my order will not be right then

Ill redo it in a minute

[topaz fable]

didn't see this

lil too late to resubmit

[stone igloo]

Looks like no one is going to the Side objective? Lol. Venator and Spearhead are still pushing to Ziyal via a southern route

[subtle light]

once the spaceports secure next turn I assume we push to crossroads?

[topaz fable]

No we stay and build for a turn or two

also gotta clean up any hiding bots

oh wait

I misunderstood

Not 100% sure, depends on how well the crossroads team is doing

if they need reinforcements or not

[mortal chasm]

We'll have Rabbit in high orbit this turn,
Atlas, 212, Shovels, and Iron Hammer will all be following next.

which is a lot of logi, and not a lot of power, so we may call on you. how's your speed?

[topaz fable]

Slow

We have 3 logi trucks and no IFV, and like 22 infantry total

[mortal chasm]

copy that

[vernal pilot]

The Pathfinders have found something incredibly interesting and potentially important

[ashen wing]

Been eventful it seems eh

[stone igloo]

This is Sandrat all over again. Bot Battleship will probably be enroute. Or some other super heavy

[keen saddle]

we're not boarding this one right?

[bitter valley]

This is ARMCO, never rule anything out

Also, looks like Dawn Bringer (And good to see a unit from the old days still kicking) has spotted a mass of bots contacts best defined as Yes. See Midrounds

[last narwhal]

for my next action id like my spg to board the enemy flagship. no one expect close quarters artillery

[stone igloo]

Preferably not LOL

Dang and that isn't even our main objective!

[inland sedge]

I’m glad we got so many civs rescued I’m worried how hard the bots are going to push back tho

[ashen wing]

Sounds fun

[bitter valley]

I suspect their response is at the crossroads. We shall know soon

[subtle light]

We shall fight the bots with everything we have

[compact briar]

Well, the good news is we might not even have to march to fight the bots.

Their counterattack could very well be on its way as we speak

[tulip zephyr]

I've watched Robotech. Mass artillery fire from artillery units punched into an enemy ship is a thing. Soooo, no totally unexpected. 😂

[subtle light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/982555296880787500/1389785092938924082/ATTE-InSpace.gif

[last narwhal]

This is my spg, for meta, so its quite fitting actually

[stone igloo]

I actually agree we might need to dig in. That force Venator ran across his huge.

[remote lotus]

We have intel that the bots are building something "BADtm" at Crossroad but we don't know what's a L- H. It's quite possible that there's the same kind of enemy battlegroup there going for Elim again but they may hold position at Crossroad until the building's done.

Intel would be very nice

[meager comet]

Looks like 1 column of bots maybe with mech or mbt support and fortifications either built or being built either way might be better to attack now if we want to get to zivyal

We have atleast 1 wall of fortifications to get through and we don’t know what they’re building or how close it is to being done time is not on our side

[bitter valley]

Let's not panic until we get full intel

[tulip zephyr]

From what I can see, 5 BG are planning on going to the Crossroads for turn 6.
Depending on the level of the resistance they find, they should either flatten it or get stuck in.
If they flatten it then a 6th BG will not change things.
If they get stuck in then we will either need to hold this port or advance by land which will take us through two zones. I don't know if the 6 Heavy VTOL that they have organized would be enough to lift our force if it became available.

[subtle light]

wasnt the whole point of our battlegroup to push and dig into to ziyal and later crossroads once that became not an option?

[remote lotus]

The point of the Battlegroup was to push until we meet resistance and then dig in. We thought it would be possible to reach Zyal and hold it against the landing bots and if not go to Crossroad and do the same.

Sadly for us the bots are already pretty much everywhere so our plan is up in the air.

[subtle light]

I just dont want to have us be the BG that sits in the back while everyone else fights when the whole point of our group is to make the bots have the Verdun experience with trench warfare

still think that after the cities secure we push as far towards crossroads as reasonably possible before we are stopped then dig in and let the bots bash against us like waves against the cliffs of dover

if the bots are building something at crossroads putting pressure on them is a good idea to prevent them from just building strength enough to overwhelm us

[stone igloo]

Or we work our way around to Ziyal

[keen saddle]

If they’re coming to Elim it gives us time to prepare trenches and defend our held positions.

[compact briar]

I'll take another vote after the midrounds.

I don't see us staying in Elim more than another turn unless we have a bot force on the way already.

[iron swan]

Yeah any decision making will need to wait till we see all the relevent data roll in

[tawny cobalt]

When are next orders due? Martel what's the priority on defences on NW side, since I don't think we're taking the time to fully complete them?

[tough condor]

Tomorrow

Wednesdays and Sundays, 6PM EST. Post in briefing room with hammer time timestamps adjusted to user's time zone

[compact briar]

As Trench said.

Alright, poll time.

Courses of action:
Elim City: Stay and fortify Elim City for at least 1 more turn. Depending on other battlegroup actions, we may be able to airlift the group to Crossroads in 2 turns.

Crossroads: Start the march towards Crossroads via L-H.

Hill Mine: Go and help TF Fluffle at the Hill Mine, try to keep pushing through to Haydar Village and eventually Ziyal.

[stone igloo]

Which BGs are heading to Crossroads?

[bitter valley]

Looks like possible bot fabricators at the crossroads.
Given the fact that we have positive ID on biological material in the bots themselves... I think we have to assume these "bots" are much closer to a cyborg force. Or something like advanced combat servitors

I would also like to know which BG's are planning on heading where from Elim. If one of them was thinking about taking on the city fortification I would definitely be in favor of moving now. If no one is planning on staying I would hesitate to leave Elim totally unguarded

[remote lotus]

I know Iron hammer wanted a piece of Crossroad.

[bitter valley]

Looks like final is out for the round. I'll do an analysis when I get home

[remote lotus]

I don't know if Iron Hammer is already in L-H and it's clear or if they'll reach it next tuen

[bitter valley]

Is anyone planning on clearing the village south of Elim?

Could be a threat south if we are not careful

[remote lotus]

I don't know if Crossroad is our kind of dancing floor... It's a lot of empty space until we reach the houses. If the bots have arty or range 2 weapon it's going to be a bloody march.

Haven't heard anything about it. It's air only road so I'm not sure what we can do about it except stay in Elim.

[bitter valley]

Hill mine is gonna be close quarters. Better terrain for the PA but our heavier assets will be neutralized

[last narwhal]

i can try to fit my spg into the mines

it can squat if i let out some hydraulic fluid

[remote lotus]

Looking at the maps, it looks like Crossroad is a lot of high point with little cover until the village itself, Venator would have a lot of fun there...

I do like what the Hill mine map look like. There's also quite a few target outside and High ground for our vics to use that longer reach.

[last narwhal]

for this order set, is there anything i can do with my spg? or shall I just rp looking for survivors?

[remote lotus]

Start looking agressive at the cloud. We need good weather on this snowball.

[warped oriole]

I will say, it would be a risk to leave Elim unguarded whilst we don't know what enemy forces are present at Nelys

Without knowing what enemy air assets are present an enemy force could airlift into Elim when it is unguarded.

And even if we aren't active initially, that means our force is likely to remain at a higher combat strength whilst other suffer from attrition. A reserve force so to say, to assist where things are looking most dire or where more pressure is needed.

[topaz fable]

No map for updated map for Elim City? I thought we still had some unidentified persons or question marks that hadn't been uncovered yet.

[topaz fable]

Hill mine seems like it has the most Civilian's, I think we should prioritise rescuing them over going to fight at Crossroads.

[halcyon peak]

i defenitely think heading to hill mine would play to our strengths as a BG. we're so infantry heavy that heading into the open is a recipe for disaster imo

[compact briar]

Fair warning on going to Hill Mine: we will be very out of position to help with anything else.

[rose ocean]

Seems they weren’t relevant enough

[stone igloo]

This turn was spent "clearing the map". We're free to go elsewhere

[topaz fable]

I think I understand.

[halcyon peak]

arent most of the BG's at elim heading to crossroads though?

[stone igloo]

They'd have to pass through one of the TFs to do so

[topaz fable]

We do have an anti-air MBT

Here is a rough sketch on what I'm thinking, if possible we could get a trench/sandbag line like this.

Might have to push it too the left one hex though, those enemy forces seem too close.

[halcyon peak]

isnt that cell dar though? i don't think we can reach cell dar unless we have some sort of plan for transport from a TF

[stone igloo]

Ultra: Listening Post
Pathfinders: Listening Post

Fluffle : Hill Mines

TF Atlas: Orbital over Crossroads
Iron Hammer: Crossroads
Rabbit: Crossroads
212th: Crossroads
Phalanx: Voting to stay a turn then go to Crossroads

Storm Blessed: Haven't decided. They're going to either Nerys Village or Hill Mine

Venator: C-Z

Spearhead: Celdar Mines

TF Victorum: L-W2

Note: Two BGs are apparently running under the impression we're staying in Elim

[compact briar]

If we are staying in Elim, and that's looking likely, here's what I need as the TACCOM

Everyone needs to post an order just to verify that everyone's still here.

If we have a turn, the engineers should either repair something or pair up with infantry to get some more trenches up.

Medics, call out healing targets

[stone igloo]

Do we have a choice? I personally do not want to stay

[compact briar]

And if we're all here, feel free to put some RP in. We might be able to use that to our advantage with civilian engagement.

Battlegroup has to maintain coherency.

[rose ocean]

Nope it’s all or nothing

[stone igloo]

Can we leave the BG and join another headed in that direction?

[rose ocean]

Nope

[compact briar]

Nope

[rose ocean]

Shack has been very clear about not allowing anyone for any reason to switch battle groups

[stone igloo]

This battlegroup was created for an explicit purpose. One we aren't doing

[halcyon peak]

I do think we should head to Hill Mine if Phalanx is staying a turn. I think putting pressure on the Bots and creating space early is important, and fortifying Elim is less important than creating space to operate.

[compact briar]

And I voted to go straight for Crossroads.

Were it up to me, we'd march straight on Ziyal and not stop till we reach the city.

[rose ocean]

Vote is currently very split with like 15 hours to go still. 5 to stay another turn and 7 to move out next turn

[mortal chasm]

uhhh weird pitch
we could load you all up and take you to reinforce Venator

[compact briar]

Do you have the space for that?

[mortal chasm]

it'd take a little phenagaling, we'd have to give Storm an LS to look after, but we'd have room for 40 units

The extra could ride in a hat

or even just load the hell out of all the HATs, and save the LS

[stone igloo]

Would we be able to land?

[mortal chasm]

Turn 7, we'd arrive at C-Z, and paradrop your infantry, drop your odts,

the trucks and tanks might need to drive on the ground

[compact briar]

We'd need a way to bring the vehicles.

Coherency rules.

[mortal chasm]

ahhh shit, yea

even with Venator's HVTOL, there's only so much we could do to get the tanks/logis down 😦

though we could drop you off at Crossroads, you could just drive there ;/

[compact briar]

That works, actually...

One sec.

[mortal chasm]

oh, yea that'd save you a turn

[compact briar]

Could you hot-drop us here?

[mortal chasm]

most of you, yea, the tanks would be at the Airfield

[compact briar]

That way the vehicles could join us turn 1.

Alternatively, if you drop us to the SE, the infantry could probably hold out for 2 or 3 turns before the vics show.

[mortal chasm]

3819 is the airfield location

[compact briar]

oh

[mortal chasm]

it'll be going up practically immediately

[dusk adder]

I’d have thought you’d want to drop around 3419 and cut the bits off from reinforcements

[mortal chasm]

we can be flexible with the paradroppers, just the vehicles gotta deploy at the airfield

[compact briar]

Alright, new poll. Short fuse because we need to make plans.

Take Atlas' offer, drop on Crossroads, and play the big damn heroes again?

[mortal chasm]

You could say you're leaving the transports for the refugees

[ashen wing]

Nothing like sleeping through the war

I’m all for headed to the cross roads. Elim seems safe enough so having that buffer zone would be useful

[halcyon peak]

I think that sounds like the best option tbh. and then we either land near airbase or serve as the anvil for the hammer of the 6 other bg's to push the bots against

[ashen wing]

Agreed

I’d say presently we have a significant advantage taking secured the city so quickly and with little tactical damage

[sterile venture]

Where is the airfield on the map? I might be blind lol

[last narwhal]

are any BG staying in the city? or would us leaving leave the place undefended?

[halcyon peak]

it's getting set up next turn at 3819

[keen saddle]

I’ve not heard anyone mention staying

[mortal chasm]

is your signup sheet accurate or do you have any MIAs?

[halcyon peak]

this is what im going off of for BG/TF intentions

[stone igloo]

Yeah, two of the BGs (I dont remember which) expected us to stay

[balmy zenith]

It won't hurt to stay an extra turn, there's more than enough bots to go around for everyone to get their fair share of steel scrapped.

[balmy zenith]

ah, didnt read all the way to this point yet, this sounds significantly more fun

[compact briar]

Accurate so far.

I'll put in an RP post bringing what's left of the otter forces up to speed and asking them to pick up where they left off.

[mortal chasm]

trying to get you some extra transport from 212, but our max deployment capacity is:

• 6 PAI (3 HDPs)
• 102 FS of INF (3HATs, 2VTOLs)
• 1 ODT (2 Drop Pods)

[compact briar]

Right now, the infantry is the main sticking point.

The vehicles have the speed to go overland.

[mortal chasm]

but it's through Ziyal city, right? Elim -> L-H -> Crossroads

OH, nevermind

yes, that's perfect

[compact briar]

And since I'm insane, here's a concept for Operation Taggerung.

Vehicles come in from the West, drop goes off North of the town.

In the clear areas.

[sterile venture]

We will still be down 3 units of PAI on that drop.

I guess they could support the Vehicles for the link up.

[mortal chasm]

we can put them on the VTOLs

[sterile venture]

If there is any hidden AA it might turn uggly realy quick like

[compact briar]

Let me go talk to the Stormblessed.