Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms

[queen tendon]

There would’ve been a mid round about it. I already let shack know you and everyone else in that hex are missing

[proper plank]

All the arty that put a fire command into their order fired. GB Deleter, Warrior, and Bigstik all have dotted orange lines on the map indicating they fired at a location. Besides for arty unhitching and deploying are counted as the same action. We can literally .5 speed unhitch and deploy, primary action fire, and .5 undeploy and rehitch to be relocated by our truck partners all in one round.

[night quarry]

So we got sucked into Astral Plane then?

[proper plank]

Sounds like Howitz shot wasn't put into the midround. I seem to recall reading spud's order and it had a shot too which isn't recorded.

[queen tendon]

Never to be seen again

[silver widget]

Which is why I should have fired, unless losing 2 FS in one go makes it where I can’t

[proper plank]

Now I need to decide where to shoot. I can target the same place as before and keep hitting that AA walker spg. But I think shifting to the other AA SPG and all the bots around it up in 3316 might be better. Spud and myself are the only ones that can hit that troop concentration and AA piece at the moment. And we got to push toward it this round.

[proper plank]

Not that I know of. Actions are supposed to be simultaneous. So your guys should of been harding at work send shots down range when they died.

[silver widget]

So I should be hitting 3316

But it’s not on the map right now

[queen tendon]

I also asked shack that

[proper plank]

Yep. Should check with the tac-com. It looks like the AA walker over there is damaged so it may be possible you did bombard it and caused a point of damage after armor and the lin ejust isn't on the map.

[steady island]

is fixed map posted yet?

[silver widget]

Not yet I don’t think

[night quarry]

We went to the Astral plane. Someone needs to wish us back

[queen tendon]

Scale of 1/10 how stupid is this?

[silver widget]

0 or 10, either the biggest brain move to save the civs or a guaranteed way to get yourself killed

[queen tendon]

I’m only traveling over all of the enemies lmao

[reef merlin]

If we are talking about mistakes a very minor one is that I have been mislabeled as F/P instead of P/F

[queen tendon]

Lmao. That’s kinda funny

I’ll let him know

[reef merlin]

It is, and I didn't even notice it at first, so it isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things.

[queen tendon]

Not at all (but it also gives me an excuse to bump my message to the bottom)

[reef merlin]

Fair enough.

[astral nymph]

I mean its less crazy then turtle.

Speaking of. I am 90% certain their should be 2 other mechs in those three. Turtle and someone else

Mentioned. I see a green tt line so he might have already fixed it

[queen tendon]

See a green line where?

Tabletop?

Also I did put that in my message of changes lmao. We’re missing 3 mechs, 2 engineers, and a sandbag line

[silent glade]

first map is always a big one,

looks like youve pretty much found and brought up all the issues so far, i was just about to check it out

[silent glade]

tbh, not that stupid, we can only see 1 AA gun so excluding random shenanigans like fighters from orbit or they build another one its a god move. you are already in range of that AA gun unfortunately, but so is triple s, they will probably shoot the orbital again if they can. but if not itl be you 😅, hopefully it dies before getting its shots off on you

[warm hazel]

Thank god for the triple 1

That Orbi should be DEAD

[astral nymph]

In the one where he showed the trench we build in between the woods and the building, I could ser a small green evasion sign with tt on jt

So I imagine that was turtle 🐢

[silent glade]

oh yah that thing should have been scrap for sure

[indigo willow]

I was thinking similar. Those arty have already killed one person and will probably kill the our arty up there and most of the map elsewhere has at least one AA gun covering it.

[warm hazel]

Closest brush with death yet

[astral nymph]

We do need to kill that arty on the mountain priority a bit

[silent glade]

this blob is basically missing

[astral nymph]

My net is disgusting I'll see if it will load lol

Yeah we're missing that whole blob

I think that was it though

[silent glade]

theres a vtol missing down south too but havent seen anything else missing yet

[queen tendon]

@wispy iron idk if that jump is doable. I sure hope it is but I’ll have to eee. But regardless could you resubmit because someone (me) forgot to send the orders open message

[queen tendon]

STARRMB?

[astral nymph]

First map always sucks

[queen tendon]

Yup

[astral nymph]

Sucksbinba good way

Not like ots bad

Just busy and lots tonadd

[silent glade]

ngl, my brain was dead after making all that and trying to fit all those arrows in xD

[astral nymph]

Sorry. I am a terrible texter

[queen tendon]

Apparently so lmao

They was worse than me

[warm hazel]

Am I missing something

[queen tendon]

About?

[silent glade]

i had so many plans to make it easier to read, and notes to add but man

[warm hazel]

Because it looks like Cute is shooting on the map

[queen tendon]

Already brought up

[warm hazel]

Ah sweet

[warm hazel]

Appreciate the work our Tac comms do

[astral nymph]

I brought it up. We can say turtle or draconian did whatever damage I sent out

[warm hazel]

Or you discovered that you have rocket fists

[astral nymph]

I wish I had jumo jets. I'd melee charge that hill arty

[queen tendon]

I hope that jump is doable

It’ll be so fucking cool

[silver widget]

The enemy arty is big enough for the anti-orbital right? So does that mean all friendly arty could direct fire them? If we evenly split between the two, I feel like we could guarantee a kill on at least one of them.

[astral nymph]

I'm not sure. That might just be the walkers...

[snow python]

problem. range

[silver widget]

Ah, I’m the only one in range…

[snow python]

yes, while we can direct fire them. we're still limited by our range of 4

[silver widget]

It’s the same token, so is it not the same unit?

[snow python]

our best option against those arty on the hillside is air

[silver widget]

Well, if I roll high enough, I might be able to disable if not destroy one

[sand whale]

:0 just had a look at the map. RIP.

[warm hazel]

There was a statement that we can fire at the AA and Arty due to size with direct arty damage

A long with the mech

But that's on a diff map

[sand whale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211453157419393094/1393324989402447882/Day_6_-_Hill_Mine.jpg?ex=6872c284&is=68717104&hm=8f45c515092ea7c7a3afd188651e04e5c2692c114fa810041d8413aaa3017258&

What are the units in cell 3213?

Is it artillery?

[warm hazel]

Spgs

Yep

Killed a Logi truck

We have a hurt arty team in range of them

[sand whale]

Ah. What is the damage of those spgs?

[warm hazel]

No clue yet

We would need a scan

I'd say either similar or greater damage than our spg refit

Oh shouldnt our tanks be in range of the infantry squad with only 1 unit left?

[sand whale]

Uh I think I am.

[warm hazel]

Did they make an attack?

[sand whale]

Nope.

[warm hazel]

Because I think all 3 used the advance order. Huh well then, might be a speed issue?

[silver widget]

“Spread to all units” so I’d assume it’s all enemy spgs.

[silver widget]

^

[warm hazel]

Hopefully some fighters or bombers can take out the ones up there

Speaking of. Would you like to be extracted?

That spot likely will see you killed this round

[silver widget]

Extracted or brought to the nearest medical unit

[sand whale]

Definitely speed.

[warm hazel]

Alright, either a closer Logi truck can grab you or I can do a rush order and we can see about panic hauling you out of there

[silver widget]

Closest would be AMPE, but any help would be nice

[warm hazel]

I am tempted to off load some cargo and see about trying to get the closest green smoke loaded up and to the maps edge. Though I am stuffed to the gills on supply

Seeing how they just gutted the last truck to do a rush order it is pretty spooky

You might be able to use your speed to move a tile away, get hitched by a trucks speed and yanked further down

No need to rush order for me if you get to 2916

[silver widget]

Potentially, but those cannons would just one shot you guys if you got close I feel like

[warm hazel]

Also if the tank line moves up they may be more juicy targets for them to hit instead

That's why I wanna avoid a rush order

Lowest target priority

Until you rush

[silver widget]

My idea so far is to fire back to hopefully knock out one of them, then abandon the gun to quickly run away

[warm hazel]

That is very fair, hopefully they don't fire at an unmanned gun and you can return to it after a medic visit

Pot shot and then tank line moving up would make for a much better target on their part

Do tanks/vehicles benefit from tree cover?

Danget they don't

[silver widget]

Oh, I was about to say I think so; but dang

[warm hazel]

Your infantry squad would

[silver widget]

I just realized as infantry I could also get inside the building behind me

And hide in there

[warm hazel]

For survival that isn't a bad plan

[sand whale]

Maybe we MBT’s can help?

[warm hazel]

You can't get into firing range but you would likely be the priority target

It would allow me to get up there and hitch the gun safely

[sand whale]

@vivid vessel do you think we can help the artillery on 2915? And see if we can attack 3213?

[warm hazel]

We have a mech who is saying fuck it and jump jetting up there

NOO phone why would you cause such a blunder

[sand whale]

@rigid jacinth?

Any thoughts?

@civic folio?

[silver widget]

@queen tendon I just realized, Spudgun also isn’t firing for some reason

[warm hazel]

A few things didn't happen

[silver widget]

Yeah, I just saw it wasn’t on the list of things needed to be added so I thought I’d point it out

[warm hazel]

There is a lot of our units missing

[steady island]

fixed map up yet? i don’t wanna do anything without it all being fixed and done

[silver widget]

Not yet

Soon I hope

[warm hazel]

It is a lil sad to see a chunk of units now shown

Scarab might wanna run up and attack the hill

[rigid jacinth]

I put in orders to fire upon bot units, but I don't see my MBT making a shot towards the bot infantry in the forest, the only unit in range.

[civic folio]

What'd i miss? Sorry was getting dolled up for an event tonight

Ah ok so, i did the math earlier, I dont have the range to actually engage next turn

Im 1 hex off from being able to move and shoot

[soft bloom]

ez pz

Looking at the tac maps... We're the ones with the least amount of fight

[wintry swan]

for now

still lots of bogeys in map center

[queen tendon]

Could be civvies that are being held prisoner

[silver widget]

Based on the bots at the door, I feel like that’s most likely the case

[astral nymph]

Means we can take stock and push on maybe. Let's make sure we clear this out and see what develops

[night quarry]

I take it map from mid rounds not fixed yet?

[steady island]

correct, not fixed yet

i want to wait for it to be fixed before doing anything

[night quarry]

Same

[vestal mountain]

Meanwhile, we got two builds near the arty line, any objections for Shirt (INF) to clear the north building?

[soft bloom]

My thoughts exactly

[sand whale]

I’m thinking of moving to 3016 and firing on 3216 or 3217.

What do you think is a higher priority for my MBT?

Btw I’ve updated the sheet to include everyone who has died.

[astral nymph]

Rip friends

[indigo willow]

@wintry swan I think we should risk the enemy fighters and destroy a SPG (not guarantees as they have armour 1. 56% success likelyhood) as they threaten anyone trying to push North and are an immediate threat to Howiter as their truck got killed. I think we are one of the few people with easy access to them an most probably want to get stuck into the centre.

[wintry swan]

Maybe something like this then

[warm hazel]

They could bombard them to lower the defense values by one

[sand whale]

Probably going to try something like this.

Fire on the infantry.

[astral nymph]

Yeah. Keeps you clear kf those aa guns. I know turtle is jumping up there

[indigo willow]

We have just barely enough movement to do that but it does let us well and truely skirt the AA in the middle

[sand whale]

Maybe I can have my MBT draw fire?

Bc they go against highest armour.

[indigo willow]

I don’t think they can so aircraft

Unless you mean for Howitzer

[wintry swan]

Barring enemies suddenly teleporting on us, I don't think Meteor and I will be in danger

I assume we have plans to kill that remaining enemy flak gun in 3217

[indigo willow]

Could be good to not injure Howiter but what they really need is a new truck to move them.

[silver widget]

or medic to get me back to full FS

[wispy iron]

What do you think the AA rolls with? 1d4?

[indigo willow]

Really rough for the trucker who insta died. Think they were a rookie too.

[indigo willow]

Think so

[sand whale]

Hm. That means they have to role a 4 to penetrate my armour.

[indigo willow]

Those SPGs up top aren’t AA they are a form of arty that does damage instead of suppression. Still 1D4 tho.

[shell bobcat]

the AA at the bottom roll a 2d4, tho this turn it will probably fire at us as the triple S retreats

[indigo willow]

I cannot tell if we are 1 movement short to take this wide arc or not.

[wintry swan]

it's 6 movement, we have 7

Actually this might be better, because it's further from enemy flak and we can hit them from behind

still 6 movement

[indigo willow]

Did they remove rotation costing speed? I might be thinking of outdated rules.

[wintry swan]

yes

[indigo willow]

K

[wintry swan]

we just need these 2 killed

[silver widget]

Wait, have they still not fixed the maps?

[indigo willow]

Already injured so likely to die next round

[wintry swan]

just making sure somebody submits orders to kill them

[indigo willow]

Can we resupply in the centre?

[wintry swan]

don't think so, we'd have to land on TripleS

[silver widget]

I should have fired so I potentially might kill the one in 3316

[indigo willow]

Ok. I was trying to figure out why we wanted to go over the centre with no ammo, forgetting Fluffle exists.

[wintry swan]

You mean during the turn that just ended?

[silver widget]

Yeah, but it's not on the map for some reason and was noted as a map mistake; so it's supposed to be fixed but that was 8 hours ago.

[warm hazel]

Not to my knowledge

[wintry swan]

are these things direct targetable by artillery for damage?

[silver widget]

yes, but I wasn't direct firing at them, only barrage at 3316

[wintry swan]

that would be awesome if it's already dead

ping me if the map gets updated plz

[indigo willow]

Arty can’t do damage unless they are an SPG, just debuff or am I misinterpreting what you are saying?

[silver widget]

there were a ton of map mistakes for DF (not sure why, probably a collection of reasons) that were reported and were going to be fixed, but like I said, that was 8 hours ago.

[warm hazel]

Yep

[wintry swan]

there are certain units that are large enough that arty can direct damage them

not sure if it was said that the walking flak are one of them

[warm hazel]

None of the tanks shot either and @rigid jacinth was asking about that but never got a reply

[shell bobcat]

they are, your arty damaged one of them, they big enough to count as orbitals so arty rolls d6 for them

[silver widget]

They do random chance damage plus debuff with barrage, random chance damage plus forcing enemies to move with funnel, and direct damage with anti-orbital (or anything large enough). At least that was my understanding.

[silver widget]

exactly, 8 hours and still no response on any of the map issues aside from "noted"

[indigo willow]

Rereading the rule as I still have the old one in my head. Most of that looks right but reduce defence isn’t damage plus it just makes it easier for other friendlies attacking to do damage, so if someone missed by 1 it might die though I don’t think -1 defence effects armour? and I wouldn’t think that AA has any defence to remove though I could be wrong.

[warm hazel]

If it doesn't effect armor then arty is overwhelmingly useless. Niche assistant only with dug in or evasive units

Or being able to shuffle someone around .5 speed

[indigo willow]

Also funnel looks like an action not a chance. Though there are some unit tags listed I can’t find the effects of atm.

[warm hazel]

I wouldn't wanna hitch them to my truck ever again, would just go for a trailer

[silver widget]

I mean like random damage chance, but moves enemy regardless

[indigo willow]

Infantry in a building (common) can be a massive pain to shift without arty

[indigo willow]

Is the random damage from hitting a bridge roll table?

[silver widget]

I'd assume so, or something similar. But if there are multiple enemies in a hex under barrage, I don't know if it's randomly decided or just whatever is the biggest target gets damaged.

[proper plank]

Just put in the order to AOS d6 the north one in 3316

[indigo willow]

I think that just means how damaged the bridge is and what units can use it in each level of destruction.

[silver widget]

I don't know how barrage works when applied to a hex, but if I had to guess it's a dice roll, 1-2 is a miss, 3-4 is a hit on a random unit, 5-6 is a kill on a random unit; but I could be completely wrong.

[indigo willow]

Yes but only for bridges.

[silver widget]

for bridges only 1 is a miss. 2-4 is a hit, 5-6 is destroyed. I was referring to when used on a whole hex

[indigo willow]

Barrage is one action to give an area debuff. Funnel is an action to target and move one unit. You can attack orbitals with a normal D6 attack or try to destroy bridges using the table provided. You can only do one of these actions as they are all primary actions.

[proper plank]

It currently does no damage. Just stacks a progressive and supportive -1 defense and -1 evasion to everything in range for each arty hitting the zone and for each consecutive round a target is impacted by the debuff.

I'd love to pitch a arty redesign to Shack that would allow arty to be better split up into types/upgrades and even allow them to represent the field gun that he wants to incorporate.

[silver widget]

oh, guess I was wrong.

so arty does no damage unless it's direct fire? really?

[proper plank]

We can't even really direct fire. except on orbitals

[indigo willow]

Is there even a direct-fire option?

[proper plank]

We technically damage bridges by bombarding them. just specify the bridge as teh target

[silver widget]

so unless there's enemy units dug in, arty is almost useless besides funnel?

[indigo willow]

Sorry arty isn’t as strong as you believed but at least you have a better idea of what you can do.

[silver widget]

yeah

[indigo willow]

Dug in enemies are common so are enemies in buildings and some enemies can have an evasive order making them almost impossible to shift without arty, while being common on most battles

[proper plank]

I personally find funnel to be almost entirely useless too. In practice it can't cause a noticable positive outcome to anything with a speed greater than 1. So like someone above said it is only really great for forcing inf to leave a building, but even then techincally funnel can't be used on a target that is dug in. A target for funnel must already be moving. -.-

[silver widget]

sounds like arty needs a rework then, to be honest

[indigo willow]

I mean it is an ability arty didn’t have last rule set. That and anti-orbital.

[indigo willow]

See what it can do first in practice. I’m telling ya arty reducing defence is critical.

[fading dune]

Funnel is great? Force an enemy tank into a terrible engagement...force that AA piece into our gun line, etc.

[proper plank]

Actually this rule set make us more tanky too. V5 allows arty to dig in like other infantry so we can have a +2 def. Engys can build us a arty pit which adds +2 to our def as well. So technically an arty with the gun shield upgrade can have a top defense of 5 now instead of 2...

[fading dune]

tonky

[silver widget]

got that thicc defence

[proper plank]

Yep

Makes it seem less like Engy's building an arty pit for us and more like they are making us a concrete pillbox

[warm hazel]

It feels actively useless, quite sad after all the effort to hitch and move our 6 artillery into combat for this war

Shifting is nice but that is about it

[steady island]

maybe give arty 1D6 damage?

[proper plank]

It's why I really feel arty needs a damage option. The player coordinates with the team to lay down what is best. Fire for effect for damage, fire for suppression to tear up defenses and buildings (current bombard), or a rolling barrage to funnel. Having a damage option give an arty player a tool for every situation they may be needed for. Heck even if bombardment could just do 1d2 damage to eneimes in the open without cover would be a nice improvement.

[steady island]

rolling barrage sorta does both damage and suppression the intent is to give a near constant covering fire for other elements

so maybe a minus to enemy’s hit chance for rolling barrage

an have arty do damage but reduced damage

[snow python]

I am actually really sad defensive fire was removed. that was used to great effect in C3.

and i would have used it on Howitz next turn

[steady island]

fixed map will be up tomorrow i am assuming?

[warm hazel]

Sounds like a good skill. And it really should do something

[royal minnow]

I’m not sure where I’m needed right now as a Logi VTOL with my supplies still on hand

If anyone has a suggestion or needs my backup, ping me

[minor solar]

Still can't believe this 🤣

[minor solar]

Did prep the next Order, need a check on it.

Callsign: Onyx
Unit: Infantry
Carrying: N/A
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Advance
Movement: advance towards enemy Group at hex 3319

Starting Coords: 3018
Ending Coords: 3218
Facing: 3319

RP: *As the enemy Walker tips over cheering can be heard from both HELLDRVR and Onyx.

"That's how you do it." Onyx-1 exclaimed, reloading his weapon. "Let's get a move on people," he continued "there are still more of them."*

[dreamy glade]

Did we have a vote on wether to turtle or to rush the mine already?

[haughty mauve]

@chilly bridge what are you thinking we push with help from the battle group. Or take a more cautious approach as you are down a man already even with the extra AP 😅

[chilly bridge]

I'd push another tile before getting myself healed or if we have a medic close, ask them to heal before pushing^^

[haughty mauve]

Maybe push for the building use it as cover? Also to heal I think we need an engineer

[chilly bridge]

Hm... I can't remember rn^^

But, yeah cover works and there are engineers close by

[silver widget]

This is what I thought it did

[astral nymph]

The problem is. Arty ine had a damage option, and it was the only thing on the mapnthat got kills pretty much, since it was range 4.

[silver widget]

Well they don’t call arty the king of the battlefield for nothing; in all seriousness though, maybe at least low damage like Cursed is saying, a d2 for any enemies not in cover. Because currently arty can’t damage anything smaller than an orbital

[queen tendon]

Morning dwarves. I’m not gonna be around much today but here’s my plans. Mad dash to pick up the civvies in the furthest building

[astral nymph]

So brave

[proper plank]

He dares to be bold. Fortune favors the bold. Supposedly...

[silver widget]

Like I said originally, this is either a big brain move to save civs, or a guaranteed way to get yourself killed. All depends on how it plays out.

[queen tendon]

All I’m saying is I haven’t died yet

I’ve done something like this every campaign I’ve been in

On Lussan it was flying directly past the giant explosion that ended up being their SHBT. On Titan it was operation saving private Warli

[silver widget]

Hey @fallen yarrow, you are the closest medic to me, mind running to me to heal me? I’ll meet you in the northern west building in hex 2815. We should be out of range from any enemies there

[queen tendon]

@lean notch is near you if you wanted to ask them for a medevac

Safer in the air

[lean notch]

Demozay is flying rn but is ready to respond where needed

[queen tendon]

Howitz is badly injured and you’re the closest VTOL to them. Was just throwing the idea out

*if they want to abandon their gun

[silver widget]

I am, I’m going to fire then abandon the gun and run to the building behind me

My order is primed and ready but I’m waiting for the fixed map before committing in case I need to change something

My hope is that with no one manning the gun, it won’t be under attack since it’s not a threat. So after the spgs are dealt with and I’m healed up, I could recover the gun later.

[night quarry]

Any word on missing units?

And good morning to everyone.

[silver widget]

Not yet

Also morning to you too

[night quarry]

Hopefully soon so I may be able to put my order in.

[astral nymph]

If you'd happy with the risk ty, otherwise duck into that building and meet up with the medic.

[silver widget]

Since the building is in the same hex as me, I can kinda have my cake and eat it too. I can use half my movement to take a pop shot at an spg then use the other half to run to the building.

But I have to abandon the arty is the only downside to this plan

[silent glade]

its possible you can go back and pick it up again later

[silver widget]

That’s the hope, unless it gets fired at.

[astral nymph]

I'm sure they will fire at the other advancing units. An unmanned arty gun is not a current threat. Unlike the tanks, mech, and infantry

[silver widget]

Yeah, but I’m pretty sure I’m the only one in their range at the moment

[queen tendon]

If you are waiting to plan until you’re on the map, I wouldn’t. He doesn’t typically post a new map

I’d assume you’re where you’re supposed to be

[silver widget]

Oh

He’ll just fix the issues on next round’s map?

[queen tendon]

Yep

[silver widget]

Ah, I see. Then I’ll just post my orders then

[night quarry]

Alright then.

[astral nymph]

I know he double checked our map and fixed some stuff since he pasted a screenshotnof it with gears and my trenchline...

[night quarry]

Question, would a Ground unit be able to shoot through the building and/or non passable terrain like a high wall like in hex 3116 an 3117?

[silver widget]

3116 is a building with civs inside, not sure if you want to fire through that…

[night quarry]

If so, I could go an upgrade the sand bags there and I could skip building sand bags on the north east part of the hex of 3016 and then head south unless yall want me going elsewhere than south?

[night quarry]

Just wondering if it prevents enemy from shooting through it unless they take over the building and get inside. Also if there is a way to get into said building from the hex we are currently in.

[soft bloom]

Unless I'm neaded elsewhere, I'm gonna try and grab the furballs to the north

[queen tendon]

I haven’t checked any orders but I’m just reminding people to update their supply count if they shot their arty or put down sandbags last turn

If you upgraded sandbags to a trench that does not use supply

[valid pecan]

Has anyone decided to go after the SPGS on the mountain yeat?

[chilly bridge]

Can I have one Engineer volunteer to heal my loss? It'd be a repair action and costs 1 Small Supply

[silver widget]

Oh, yeah they can still fire at units inside a building from outside but units inside the building have a defense bonus

[silent glade]

i believe bluwolf might be within 1 tile of you and currently not doing anything far as i know

[chilly bridge]

Who's the player?

[silent glade]

#1385623502157250560 message

[night quarry]

It be me

[chilly bridge]

Ah nice, could you repair me? 😄

[night quarry]

I can.

[chilly bridge]

"Repair" that is

[night quarry]

Is the group fine if I do that?

[chilly bridge]

I do hope so xD
I can only take two more hits

[night quarry]

As for your soldiers that man it would he not need a medic?

[chilly bridge]

Nope, PAI needs specifically an engineer

[queen tendon]

Yes, check above

[silver widget]

I am

[night quarry]

I'm a hex and a half away I would not be able to fix you this turn. It will have to be during turn 7 @chilly bridge

[valid pecan]

@modest pagoda If you could, I would like to be moved east one hex, 2916

[chilly bridge]

Aren't you in 3016?

[night quarry]

Yes and repairs cost me one Movement and if I rush, i use one and a half to get to you. I'm basically in the center of hex 3016

[chilly bridge]

How much speed costs you? 0.5? I can move towards you and then use the rest to advance

[night quarry]

Speed costs me one 1. I am an off branch of infantry. Infantry has speed 1

Give me 5 to 10 min. I'm getting on my comp to properly measure distance to you

[valid pecan]

Do I need to specify which spg im shooting at?

[chilly bridge]

Correct me if I'm wring, but while, yes, Inf has 1 Speed, an action like repair costs them 0.5 Speed, which leaves 0.5 speed for moving. That should be enough to bring you towards the border of the tile. I'm already at the border and should be in your range

[queen tendon]

Default arty can’t do direct damage

[valid pecan]

these are the ones that anti orbital works on right?

[silver widget]

The spgs are big enough for direct fire

[queen tendon]

Are they?

I’m not aware of that

I totally could’ve missed it though

[silver widget]

It was a small, but important footnote made during midround events

[night quarry]

@queen tendon is it one speed to do repairs or is it .5 to do repairs? The rule does not specify.

[queen tendon]

If it’s a standard action it takes .5 speed

That parts defined in the speed rules near the top

[soft agate]

BTW Axx, in the uh final map posted, my artillery doesent have the minefield marker around it. Could you check on that? just in case

[night quarry]

Okay thank you

[valid pecan]

Idk if it would be better to focus one cannon down or try and take a shot at each one.

[soft agate]

or take note of it

[night quarry]

You are correct I can do it this turn.

[soft agate]

Other than that, where should i fire

[night quarry]

I always thought it was one movement to do repairs

[queen tendon]

Okay sweet, thanks. In this case, specify which one you’re shooting at @valid pecan

[chilly bridge]

I was loosing faith im my memory already xD

But, wonderful. Thank you very much!

[queen tendon]

Roger that

[night quarry]

They need to specify that with the unit info....

[queen tendon]

Anything with action takes .5 speed

[wintry swan]

Was there an update on whether these mobile AA were destroyed? I know Triple S and some arty units were wondering if their shots had been processed

[soft agate]

Also i listed in my order that i did fire but i dont have the orange line in the map. Want to know if i was prevented because of the trees in front of me and if to tick down my supply

[silver widget]

Hey @valid pecan, you won’t be able to fire. Hitching is 0.5, and unhitching is 0.5

[queen tendon]

No update on this, but I did figure out the mine thing. It wasn’t on our tac map

[queen tendon]

Firing takes no speed, it’s a primary action

[silver widget]

Oh

[silver widget]

Well in that case, let me change my order

[lean notch]

I can give a lift if need be

[vale geode]

Good morning my fellow gremlin crusaders.

Please let anyone going south know that they may want to kill the bots before the otters do.

I’m going to start my swing northward around the mountains and maybe set up a line, maybe punch through we’ll see

[soft bloom]

One was destroyed the other two have hits

[wintry swan]

That's what the map shows, but some arty players and Triple S said that their orders to shoot them didn't go through

[soft bloom]

Huh. Then that's a TCO thing

Maybe @queen tendon can shed some light on that?

Since he's also doing a stupid maneuver that would benifit from them being dead 😛

[queen tendon]

I haven’t seen anything saying they’ve been additionally damaged

Nor the result of if the HMG fired or not

[royal minnow]

Hey y'all, I'm not quite sure what to do with my VTOL right now, is there anyone that needs my help or supplies, or should I hold for now?

[night quarry]

@chilly bridge in your order state that once you are repaired by me you will fire your round at the enemy.

[silver widget]

If you’d like, I need to be picked up at 2815 then brought to the nearest medic, but that would be next round (round 8)

[chilly bridge]

Once I'm repaired, I'm advancing, so yeah that was the idea^^

[night quarry]

Heads up to any of the medics near the area, be prepared to provide medical assistance. I may need it real soon. And it looks like I will not be going to the south part of the map. Will a free engi be willing to go?

[astral nymph]

I do not know what bluwolfs username is on my ohone here.

But general logistics request.

Could 1 engineer upgrade the sandbag line he made last round to a trench. If that is done. We will have a line from building to building along the woods. Very very defensible.

If there is another engineer that I'd in the area. Oilsans could use a repair. Then we'll be at full ish strength and easily able to advance from cover.

[chilly bridge]

Bluwolf is Ingeitum_Stenr and they are already repairing me. But thanks for the concern 😄

[night quarry]

I did not lay any sandbags. That was PUPIL. But I am in the process of putting in a order to move to Chester's unit to fix. Again have medi ready

[silent glade]

my first thoughts on this is that they were bombarding the hex rather than targeting the AA (which no one knew could be done) so probably no damage caused by it

[night quarry]

Battle order placed.

[chilly bridge]

You went to repair the Arty, not me xD

I don't know if you are aware, but my Unit is the Power Armour Unit "Oilsins" on 3117. The one with the shields

[silver widget]

While I appreciate the sentiment, you can’t help me @night quarry, I need medic not engi. Go help Oilsins, they could use your help.

[night quarry]

Oh. My bad.

[willow lantern]

So does anyone know if we can enter the light blue building from 3120?

[night quarry]

Is anyone free to check my order please?

Callsign: BluWolf
Unit: Engineers
Carrying: 4/4 Small Supplies
Equipment: N/A

Round 7

Order Type: Rush, Repair, then Build Sand Bags
Movement: 3016 to 3117 to the rear of Unit OILSINs, then using one small supply to repair Unit OILSINS, and lastly use one small supply to build sandbags in North East hex side

Start Coords: Hex 3016
Ending Coords: Hex 3117
Facing: Behind OILSINS facing North East

[polar comet]

Does anybody have the full map including the most recent turn?

[night quarry]

That is as close to what all of our current positions are.

This is what current position of enemy units.

[vestal mountain]

Unit Callsign: Shirt
Unit Type: Infantry
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Advance
Movement/Action Tracker:
1 speed: Move from cover of IFV to inside of building

Starting Coords: 2816 (Snow)
Ending Coords: 2815 (Building)
Facing: 2915 (NE)

Will provide cover fire for both medic and Howitz, feedback?

[silver widget]

Looks good

[rigid jacinth]

These are the movements I have planned to fire upon the southern artillery unit. Any suggestions/objections.

Order type: Advance
Starting coords: 2816
Ending coords: 3017

Action tracker: Primary fire upon artillery unit in coordinate 3217

[willow lantern]

I think that's an AA but aside from that it looks good

[silver widget]

Was going to say the same thing

[prisma nacelle]

@minor solar Exactly where are you planning to end up in the hex?

[minor solar]

At the edge, yeah

[rigid jacinth]

Alright, good to remove the AA from the field anyway. Thank guys.

[night quarry]

Order resubmitted

[polar comet]

So my plan is to evade from my current position to 3320 and fire upon the enemy from the high ground. Is that a valid move?

[rigid jacinth]

I will be putting my orders in later, when I have the time to sit down and think about what my dwarves themselves are doing.

[prisma nacelle]

So like south east? I could rush up and put up more sandbags for you on the mountaintops between 3118 & 3218

[snow python]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-sprinter-gimli-lord-of-the-rings-sprinters-gif-16266442

how I feel right now

[minor solar]

Sounds good

[snow python]

with my .5 movement after undeploying

[royal minnow]

Aight, I can start moving your direction

[vestal mountain]

Also, do we have a medic to help Howtiz?

[silver widget]

Alternatively, you could bring a medic to me. That would be even more helpful.

[royal minnow]

Yeah, maybe I can grab a medic on the way

Any medics here willing to get picked up?

We gotta save Howitz 6

[willow lantern]

I think I'm too far away

There must be someone closer than 2919

[silver widget]

@wise oasis is in 2818, both @fallen yarrow and @odd valley are both in 2917, and @willow lantern is in 2919. You @royal minnow are also in 2919, so you could pick up any of them if they are willing to go.

[vestal mountain]

In fact, @frank grotto , would you be willing to risk driving up to Howtiz to drop me off inside the building?

[frank grotto]

I am so down

You hop in, ill drive

[frank grotto]

Shoot for 2915?

[queen tendon]

Checking up here. How’s it going?

[frank grotto]

I think i just signed up to drive into enemy fire

[silver widget]

Well the only thing that could hit you is the spgs

Actually, I take that back, 2815 is out of their range, so you’d be fine

[wintry swan]

Has anyone entered orders to kill AA this turn?

[silver widget]

I’d recommend entering the building from 2815 since that would be out of the spgs range, but still get you to me

[queen tendon]

Sorry that’s the SPG

[queen tendon]

Not that I’m aware of but I haven’t been able to pay attention to this turn yet

[silver widget]

There’s an mbt attacking it I believe, or at least planning on it

[silver widget]

^

[queen tendon]

I’m gonna run to microcenter and pick up a modem after I make my desk again. If I’m able to get spectrum to set it up on their end, I should be able to look over orders

[willow lantern]

If no other medic is willing to go to Howitz I can do it, but I was planning to help the civs in the building near me

[wintry swan]

@indigo willow I'm taking a path to 3212 instead of 3113, because it's further from enemy flak and we can hit the enemy from the rear

[silver widget]

Please don’t feel like you have to, after all you still decide what you want to do; or even if you just want to wait until we hear what the plans the other medics have, that’s fine. I’m pretty sure none of the other medics haven’t said anything yet this round.

[silver widget]

Hey like I said, I recommend going to 2815 rather than 2915. That way you stay out of range of the spgs.

[willow lantern]

My priority is keeping you guys in the game, so I have no issues with a little detour. But yeah, I'm waiting for the other medics' intentions

[silver widget]

Now thinking about it though, you and HMRHEAD are in the same hex, it might be easier to pick you up

[willow lantern]

Yeah, it's looking quite convenient

[silver widget]

But even so, we should probably wait to see what the other medics say

[lean notch]

My VTOL is still free this turn for tasking

[warm hazel]

We could see about trucker picking the gun up

[warm hazel]

I would need to unload to hold civvies. Loot box might be a good choice for picking up and moving them to the map edge as they were running troop transport

Also morning dwarfs

[silver widget]

Maybe, but we need to wait until both spgs are dealt with before anyone tries. Otherwise we could lose another logitruck.

[warm hazel]

Just don't use the rush order and they won't shoot us

As long as anything else is in range

[silver widget]

That’s the thing, at the moment nothing else is in range so anyone entering their range will get fired at.

[warm hazel]

We have a lot going up there. A mech is running up and jump jetting from what I know

[silver widget]

But that’s one unit, and I guess both could try and take them out, but I don’t think we should risk it this round. I’m pretty sure they will be taken out by the end of this round, so as long as I’m healed up, I could grab it within the next two rounds.

[warm hazel]

In my opinion we need a few targets to saturate the north side and have loot box pick up civvies and trucker hitch you up. If I was closer I'd do it as I would have the speed to move away

[silver widget]

I’m retreating to the building plus moving out of their range, so I should be fine; thanks though

[wintry swan]

our 2 fighters are going for a strafing run on those SPGs, and we have a mech jumping up there
we could really use some help finishing off the enemy flak in the center of the map though

[silver widget]

Exactly, and I’m also firing at the spgs. They will most likely be destroyed by the end of this round, so everyone else should focus on the AA.

[wintry swan]

do we have anyone who can hit the AA? If not I'm wondering if it might make sense for you to shoot the AA

[warm hazel]

I can ram the front of my truck into a leg foooor.... 0 damage if that helps

[silver widget]

I don’t think 2 strafing runs will knock them out completely, so I’ll keep attacking the spgs; but the other artys should definitely attack the AA.

[wintry swan]

we're hitting from the rear so they have no armor

[silver widget]

4 strafing runs hit the one in the middle and they were only able to damage it, plus I don’t have direct line of sight on any of the AA anyway; there’s buildings in the way.

[vestal mountain]

@frank grotto @silver widget
I'm listening to TyGammer's advice and approaching his position through the building, maybe draw aggro from the spgs with defense buff. I did unload from the vehicle the previous turn, so feel free to adjust orders to either support the MBT's or take defensive terrain.
Speaking of, What are the general plans for the MBT's?

[warm hazel]

Two runs on a single one will likely kill one and the mech jumping up there should occupy the other

[silver widget]

One is planning on attacking the AA, but other then that I have no idea

[silver widget]

Their range is 3, so actually you’ll be out of their range. @frank grotto however, your current orders have you directly going into their range so be aware of that if that’s where you want to go

[frank grotto]

I will slide back a tile to pick you up next turn if needed

[silver widget]

Ok, just letting you know

[proper plank]

Updated/corrected map up yet?

[silver widget]

It’s probably not going to be released, just positions corrected on round 7 maps.

[silver widget]

Bumping this down if anyone needs a reference where they are in case they aren’t on the map

[wintry swan]

@queen tendon if we have any arty that haven't given orders, can you suggest them to fire at the AA?

[silver widget]

I mean, they still have 24 hours give orders but I second this

[royal minnow]

Ok, so if there’s another medic or not who’s willing to take a joy ride, just ping me

[warm hazel]

Oh yeah spg's have slightly less range right?

Much safer to grab ya

@terse merlin did you wanna see about driving into the tree line and trying to pick up the nearest civvies

[willow lantern]

For now consider me as your passenger I guess

[royal minnow]

Alright

Should I write my Order now, or wait for anyone else?

[willow lantern]

If you want to, you can wait to see if another medic volunteers to go in my place, but it's looking like that won't be changing

[silent glade]

so im thinking i just move up this turn, but perhaps next turn, either Onyx or Guard. I could pick up and Ram and Rapid ramp deploy them into the building full of unknown signals

[queen tendon]

I'll convey your request

also we got internet now

[chilly bridge]

@haughty mauve I'm advancing forward to 3216.... Don't know if that's where you want to go as well, but as far as you walk into the same direction, you'll be covered ^^

[haughty mauve]

I am cool with it. The mental image I have for our units is cool. I am gonna melee charge and hope I survive with how many bots are there

[chilly bridge]

You'll have my firing support at least, so I hope you'll survive even if it's just one soldier!

[haughty mauve]

Me too 😂

[warm hazel]

I am up for any plan that doesn't get me killed

[soft agate]

Im here

perfect

i needed an idea on what to do anyways

[soft agate]

also got an update on if my shot went through?

[wintry swan]

Can I interest you in shooting this?

[soft agate]

Is that the AA we need dead?

[silver widget]

It did, just it wasn’t on the map by accident. It will be fixed on the next round of maps.

[wintry swan]

yes

[soft agate]

Okay good, had to double check

[soft agate]

Will do

Imma give em a good ol spuddin

[wintry swan]

thank you

[soft agate]

what hex is that?

what number

[sand whale]

I think I’m going to move my MBT to 3016 to fire on 3216

[wintry swan]

3316, plenty of infantry there so lots of opportunities for secondaries

[sand whale]

Does anyone need a MBT somewhere in particular?

[soft agate]

And what exactly would be the attack order i give?

just Bombard?

[silver widget]

That AA is in 3316, and give direct fire order

[wintry swan]

i think so

[quaint ember]

Of I'm like doing mostly nothing for the turn I'mma just stay in the trench lol

Or expand it

[silver widget]

Direct fire, otherwise you won’t damage it

[soft agate]

Ah yep

just like for orbitals?

[silver widget]

Indeed, apparently the enemy spgs and AA are large enough to use the anti-orbital targeting; meaning all arty and spgs can directly fire at them

[soft agate]

Unit Callsign: Spudgun
Unit Type: Artillery
Carrying: 1/2 small supply
Equipment: Anti-infantry minefield

Order Type: Hold
Movement/Action Tracker: Stay in 2917, minefield facing 3017
Primary Action: Direct fire on the AA gun in 3316

Starting Coords: 2917
Ending Coords: 2917
Facing: NE
RP: "Got a scarecrow over there. Gotta deal with em so our crows can fly by. Load up a good'un."

so like this?

[vestal mountain]

@frank grotto small correction to make on your orders. Shirt is unload and no longer in the vehicle

[silver widget]

Plus like I said Cbear:

https://tenor.com/view/enemy-artillery-helldivers-2-helldivers-missiles-gif-16244640406742692138

-# if you go to 2915 that is

[tired cairn]

I have 25 small supply that is burning a hole in my hull, is there anyone who needs supply (also I can airdrop supply from a standard HAT right? I saw nothing in the rules about it, but I assume that is the point of the HAT?)

[silver widget]

I know our engineers could use some resupply and some artys’ ammo supply could be topped off, but other then that I don’t know

[sand whale]

Unit Callsign: Aurum
Unit Type: MBT

Order Type: Advance
Movement/Action Tracker: Move to 3016 from 2816
Primary Action: Direct fire on the infantry in 3216. If unable fire on the mech in 3217. If that stinky infantry in 3016 is still there run it over.

Starting Coords: 2816
Ending Coords: 3016
Facing: 3216
RP: "Are you sure that firing on infantry with our main cannon is really that efficient?"

This good?

[soft agate]

Idk how HATs work but if you can topping up us artys would be good

since im firin my last shot, same with the rest i assume

[tired cairn]

Lovely I'll drop drop all my supply onto you lovely people and then head back to try and pick up some more supply

[silver widget]

If I’m understanding correctly, arty has three shots before they are out. 1 that’s preloaded, then they carry two more.

[proper plank]

I'd like to get a stockpile of supply going. Arty stockpiles can work as a logistics hub for everyone, but also keep us firing much longer.

[soft agate]

Oh rlly?

-# damn thats unsafe

[soft agate]

do we have one with the stockpile upgrade?

[silver widget]

I think so, but not sure. And like Cursed pointed out, our supplies could technically be used by anyone for anything if we allow it

[proper plank]

This is good. With both of us hitting it with the anti-orbital fire we should be guaranteed a kill even if it has some tanky armor levels.

[silver widget]

I’m sure there’s one in Armco, but there isn’t in DF

[proper plank]

Stockpile isn't an upgrade. At least in V4 it wasn't it was just somethign we can do

[silver widget]

It is, gives us a total of 4 small supply storage

[soft agate]

yeah i was considering it but i wanted my mines

[proper plank]

Yeah. "Once deployed can stockpile Supplies delivered by Logi Units and share those supplies with other units. By default, the total amount of supply an artillery can hold and starts with is 2 Small Supply Crates."

[soft agate]

dont think so from my own reading. Since its 1 supply per round of fire.

but unsure

[proper plank]

That upgrade lets us start and carry 6. Stockpile is us custodian a logistics hub

[soft agate]

Not start or carry, just hold

[silver widget]

Store 4, I was wrong. Let’s us store up to 4, not adds 4.

[soft agate]

Means you need someone to bring it to ya, but then you become a hub

[soft agate]

lets you start and carry 2, hold 6 when deployed

[silver widget]

Oh

[proper plank]

What I said. So the logi trucks can unload all their carried supply onto a deployed arty and it goes into a stockpile.

Though I think we have to stay put if we have a stockpile if it is too large for us to carry on our own. (Nothing in teh rules says what happens to the supply if the stock pile is like 5 supply and the arty undeploys.)

[queen tendon]

nope, no updates yet

[silver widget]

Wait, I thought they were fixed they just weren’t going to make a map about it?

[soft agate]

I think what it means is that artilleries share supplies in a chain. I dont think without upgrades we can have more than 2*arty amount of supplies in our stockpile

[soft agate]

nah my own thing

in my order i fired, but its not on the map

[silver widget]

Same here

[soft agate]

asked Axx, no response yet

[silver widget]

I fired but it’s not on the map

[silver widget]

Have we gotten any word on any of the issues yet?

[proper plank]

I'm pretty sure that what we carry via the default supply or the upgrade is seperate from the stockpile. The default is like built on crates and storage space on the gun which is why it is limited. While the stock pile is literally just a pile of supplies stacked up on the ground nearby.

Thats how it was settled on when we discussed it when I asked about it during the training mission.

[silver widget]

I see

[soft agate]

Huh

aight

but i would like official ruling... just cause i like rules

(cough cough pathfinder cough cough)

[proper plank]

lol

[queen tendon]

negative

[warm hazel]

Have yet to unload any of mine onto anyone else so I am quite full. Will need to off load onto engineers

[warm hazel]

Unless we pull the same move shack did an roll multiple ones

[proper plank]

I forget who I asked about it before. I know it wasn't Shack. It was someone with a yellow name that is in Meta a lot. It might of been Cheese but I get the feeling it was Dresden.

[wise oasis]

So should I assume that my order last did happen, or that I'm still in the truck I was in?

[indigo willow]

I messed up my end coordinates. I was planning to do the same

[indigo willow]

Is that another change? I thought aircraft don’t ignore armour by attacking from behind.

[wintry swan]

i'm not sure tbh but if it does we'd be in the best position there

logically it would make sense to me though, if it's weak to the rear it shouldn't matter whether it's a fighter shooting it from behind or a tank shooting it from behind

[indigo willow]

I think it is because we are attacking from above and might be for balance as fighters can get behind enemies much more easily than any other unit.

[indigo willow]

Just double checked the updated rules. Aerospace assets cannot use the Flanking rule to ignore armour and defence by getting behind an enemy.

[wintry swan]

i see

[indigo willow]

So no guaranteed kill.

[silver widget]

I mean, Fluffle had 4 fighters strafe one and they didn’t kill it, but they did do serious damage to it, so I’d still attack them if I were you guys. Especially since you also have me, QB, and TT II firing at them, so us combined should disable if not destroy at least one of them.

[indigo willow]

It is still a 50% kill rate I think so still worth it as it will save you at least one hit if it works.

[silver widget]

Exactly

[astral nymph]

Can someone give me a tldr. I'm at my grand uncles 80th and surprise wedding. Which was wild as I'd expect. Lmfao

@night quarry I hate to be the bearer of bad news. But speed does not necessarily mean movement distance. As an infantry type, the rush is not giving you 2 speed, it's giving you a x2 multiplier on your movement.

You are currently moving .5 hexes distance, leaving you with. 5 speed left to spend. While rushing would mean you can move a full hex speed. It's not going to let you both repair oilsins and build the sandbag. That would be using a base of 1.5 speed.

I would recommend not rushing ad that gives you a priority targeting... and it's not actually helping you. You'd just be moving .5 and then choosing one of those two actions

[silver widget]

Meteor and Shrike are going to strafe enemy artys while me and QB direct fire on both of them and TT II is using their jetpack to get within melee range of the artys; rest of artys and tanks will fire at AA, ground troops will continue to push forward and fire at bots, vtols debating supply air drops, engineers fortifying positions, and HMRHEAD, Prayers, Shirt, and Firestr are coming to my position to protect me/heal me. As far as I am aware, this is all that has been discussed/planned/ordered so far.

[night quarry]

So would you be willing to check over my order before I submit it a third time please?

[queen tendon]

I cna take a look

[astral nymph]

Have axx take a look. My net is about to go and no service

[queen tendon]

@rich olive you can't move two hexes unless you rush. But be aware the risks if you do so

@prisma nacelle just want you to be aware of the risks above as well. also your image is corrupted, figured I'd let you know

[indigo willow]

@modest pagoda If you edit your order you need to delete it and repost it.

[rich olive]

Sorry, can't tell how far 1 hex is would this be fine?

[honest quail]

Do we know when to expect the fixed map?

[queen tendon]

It would be the edge of 3119

[queen tendon]

We likely won't get one

[lime hamlet]

hey lads, just want to confirm to move one tile is one speed right?

[queen tendon]

correct

[lime hamlet]

so id be able to move from 2818 to 3019 with advance? or would that rquire rush as an ifv?

just wanna make sure i put the right distance in this time haha

[night quarry]

Doing so right now.

[queen tendon]

you'd be fine for that movement with an advance

[lime hamlet]

awsome! thanks man

[honest quail]

aw

[wintry swan]

Who all has submitted orders to attack AA? i'm concerned we'll over kill the mountain SPGs while the AA stays alive

[soft agate]

Im going for the AA

[vivid vessel]

Southern one is almost guaranteed to be toast, don't know if anyone will be able to get in range of the one up north

[night quarry]

@chilly bridge will need to redo your order. Had to change mine. It would not have worked. #1385623502157250560 message

[soft bloom]

F it. We ball

Well

I’ll be in range of both AA

I’d hate to die and DARE live doing something equally as heroic

Can’t let him have all the glory…

What to do..

Is anyone targeting the AA?

[silver widget]

A few tanks and the other artys are

[proper plank]

The south AA is already in striking range of multiple ground units as well as Bigstik and Warrior. The north AA is being targeted by Spud and my arty which should be enough to kill it so long as we don't both roll low while it has a lot of armor. So our tanks, planes, and other units in 2816 should be fine to focus the arty SPGs.

[chilly bridge]

But you can still move, can't you? Just not with rush. Advance would be the order for normal movement. Half the speed will bring you to the same place where you were planning to go if I remember correctly.

[quaint ember]

It takes a supply to make a sandbag into trench right?

[silk kettle]

Nope, creating the sandbag line does but the upgrade to a trench is free, just needs a primary action from infantry or regular action from an engi.

[quaint ember]

Thanks

[willow lantern]

@royal minnow how close can you get me to Howitz?

[night quarry]

If any of the GM's are free, can one of you see and show me what the distance would be at .5 speed in direct line and a line to be behind Chester Oilsins unit please? And tell me weather I would be able to repair him in at either end ponts please?

[silent glade]

ill have a look

[night quarry]

Thank you. ^^

[silent glade]

if oilsins uses like 0.2 movement to step closer it should be good

[night quarry]

Thank you.

[silent glade]

@jovial crypt just so ya know, infantry cannot use the evasive order type. #1385623502157250560 message
if you don't repost ill assume a standard advance

[night quarry]

I can try I may be able to repair you.

[silent glade]

its real close, so just to be sure shack doesn't say its too far id nudge closer

[night quarry]

Orders placed.

[night quarry]

Check it please?

[night quarry]

So don't change anything at the moment.

[warm hazel]

Thinking I might just wait back

No one really needs a restock yet

And I can't take on the civvies with my supply

[queen tendon]

@quaint ember to move and upgrade the sandbag you will need to rush, refer to this image

[warm hazel]

Any engineers in 3016?

It looks like gears

[astral nymph]

Gears and a backhoe mech. I think bluwolf is still on the borser

[queen tendon]

pupil is as well

Reminder that turn 7 orders are due <t:1752444036:F>

[quaint ember]

Fixed

[warm hazel]

Are they both going down to 2 supply?

And should I update how much supply I am carrying after the turn I am giving it to someone or during the turn I am giving it to someone?

[sharp canopy]

I'll still be at 3 out of 4 supply at the end of this turn

[stiff hearth]

Hey guys, we've got some information from Shack
one enemy AA is down due to TripleS HMG fire

Probably one in 3217 as it's closest

So if someone focused fire on it, make corrections to your orders :)

[warm hazel]

Thanks for the heads up, oh anyone planning on killing 3016 or should I assume the 3 tanks, IFV, SHIRT got it

Sent the order out

Ah frick messed it up, very sorry for the double ping.

Just giving a heads up about the reload

[chilly bridge]

Alright. No even walking towards you before heading out?

[brazen helm]

should i (LV) go north to the green smoke to clear it out and transit civies? if so where do i bring the civs when im done

i dont really see anything else to do other than sit still

[lyric forge]

Also other information, the triple is probably not moving this turn, since well, we can't move faster than bullets, so your air assets shouldn't be worried against enemy aa

we'll keep tanking for the team I guess x)

[shell bobcat]

is a single vtol doing that run? if so then if both the SPGs fire at you both you and civs would be dead (also im jealous you guys can land and take off in same turn)

[chilly bridge]

I think we have things firing upon the SPGs

[night quarry]

No I'm in 3016 as well.

Spent yesterday and this morning trying to get my order right for the fourth time.

[night quarry]

If you want to to make sure an be safe you may.

[chilly bridge]

Alright, thanks! We'll try it this way and if it doesn't work... thanks for your effort 😄

[night quarry]

And ya, I'm on the list of units that never got properly put on the map.

[warm hazel]

I believe our arty has another round of shooting before needing a reload

[queen tendon]

we've got one VTOL going for those ones and another going for the ones in 3417

[wintry swan]

@queen tendon @silent glade if you guys see anyone with orders targeting the AA in 3217 if you would please let them know that it's dead already and to target the other one instead if possible

[royal minnow]

I have 5 Speed

What hex was he in again?

[queen tendon]

2915

[royal minnow]

Gotcha

Also, do we have an updated map of the AO with all our new positions?

[queen tendon]

nope

[royal minnow]

💀

[willow lantern]

I think he was moving inside the building on 2815 this turn

[royal minnow]

Ok, so I need to aim for that

Does loading up a unit count for a Speed?

[willow lantern]

From what I understood, I use 0.5 speed for getting in and out, but I think you only use speed for landing and taking off. I would imagine the loading thing isn't for infantry

[royal minnow]

Ok

Hopefully not

[civic folio]

@crazy, can i get the png for the MBT?
also, just to confirm, i can move and shoot, right?

[queen tendon]

shooting is an automatic thing if you get in range, usually you don't get to pick targets

it also uses no speed to do so

[civic folio]

thanks ❤️

[royal minnow]

Good news! I can get to Howitz's position in 4 Speed!

[civic folio]

so the main thing we do is "hey i want to move here" and thats kinda it as far as player choice?

[royal minnow]

Can we edit an Order to add our RP segment to it?

And only our RP?

[queen tendon]

no editing at all unfortunately

[queen tendon]

certain abilities let you target as well. Shack's reasoning is that processing 500+ orders of specific targets would be too time consuming.

[civic folio]

ok, that makes my life easy then, ill DM you what i have in mind before posting though just to make sure it's good to go

[queen tendon]

Ping me in here when you do because sometimes I don’t get notifications for new dm requests

[willow lantern]

Hey Axx, getting in and out of a VTOL uses 0.5 speed, right?

[queen tendon]

Correct

Getting in costs .5 to the unit getting in and the VTOL itself. Getting out only costs .5 to the unit

[willow lantern]

Oh damn

@royal minnow you might have to redo the calculations

[civic folio]

sent

the goal is to try and use that building as cover and consealment from those arties on the mountain

[astral nymph]

Morning all

[willow lantern]

Also, would I be able to heal Howitz if I was in the same hex even though he would be inside the building while I'm outside?

[warm hazel]

o7

[astral nymph]

Yeah. So long as your closish.

[willow lantern]

Great

[royal minnow]

Nah, we good, we fine

I only need 4 Speed to land right on the hex

[royal minnow]

Guten tag

[willow lantern]

Then I guess Howitz will be getting medics with same day shipping

[honest quail]

@warm hazel thanks for the supplies :D

[warm hazel]

Anytime fellow dwarf

I am trying to make room for civvies. 2 more supplies and I got a cargo slot free for them

[lyric forge]

Are you guys taking out the artillery this turn by the way?

[queen tendon]

our fighters are

[lyric forge]

Nothing else?

[rare wagon]

arty is just like aa mechs probably 2 hits each

[wintry swan]

also artillery and a mech going at them

[queen tendon]

4 hour warning for turn 7 orders
@dim vortex @restive root @modest pagoda (you just have to resubmit I can't take editted orders) @velvet scarab@lean notch

@reef merlin @tired cairn @dreamy glade @royal minnow

I haven’t been able to keep up with DF orders this turn, sorry

[reef merlin]

I'll get mine in, though it probably won't be much.

[tired cairn]

@queen tendon I have submitted my orders, if i need to explain them better then let me know

[royal minnow]

Got my Order in

[willow lantern]

I'll be posting mine in a momment

[royal minnow]

[lean notch]

Thanks

[queen tendon]

what logi trucks are you coordinating with to airdrop?

@royal minnow you don't have enough speed for your order.
.5 to land
.5 to load prayers
.5 to take off
leaves you with 3.5 to use, 3 if you want to land again. The closest you can get is 2916

[royal minnow]

Do you mean from landing to load the Prayers up, and taking off again?

[wintry swan]

how come VTOLs can land and take off in the same turn but fixed wing aircraft can't 🤔

[silver widget]

Because they’re vtols?

They’re designed for quick landings and take-offs?

[spice sparrow]

okay my order is in

[royal minnow]

Ok, so, should I get to the point without being able to land, or land one hex away?

[royal minnow]

Yeah, their design is to be able to land anywhere and take off anywhere, like a helicopter

A helicopter is a type of VTOL

Fixed-wings need an airstrip to take off and land

[silver widget]

Just an fyi for you and Prayers, it’s ok if I have to wait until next round to be healed, pretty sure a unit can be healed at any point by a medic.

I know I made is sound desperate but in reality, as long as I’m alive, I’ve got time. So don’t feel like you have to rush it.

[willow lantern]

Stay in the air and we land next turn in 2815

That way I can maybe get out, heal and then get back in

[silver widget]

Actually, @queen tendon would HMRHEAD be in range of enemy AA at any point? Because if not, they could rush and get to me in one round and still land

[willow lantern]

I know you're not really in a rush, but when Hmrhead said they could make it this turn I thought it would be really funny to cross half a map and heal you in one turn

[silver widget]

I also think so, which why I wonder if HMRHEAD will be range of AA. If not, they could use the rush order which doubles their movement distance; but if they are in range, they shouldn’t rush otherwise they’d be a priority target.

[royal minnow]

You know, I think I’m in a safe spot

I might be able to hit the afterburners

[willow lantern]

Well if you rush can't you move closer to the edge of the map and still make it?

[silver widget]

Afterburner would be the same as rush but without the priority issue… so that’s not a bad idea if you want to make it to me in the same turn

[velvet scarab]

Ngl I have no idea what the shmoove is this round

[royal minnow]

Oog

I looked at the rules, it says Rush is only for ground units

[silver widget]

Oh, I also looked at the rules and afterburner is +1 speed, so it can be used for distance or actions, or even both

[willow lantern]

Guh, just noticed that rush is not the same mechanic as maneuver from last campaign

[silver widget]

Yeah, rush makes all enemy units in range attack you

[queen tendon]

correct, you also need to spend .5 speed to actually load them too

[queen tendon]

unkown, we don't ahve their stats. But they should be targetting TripleS this round which is staying in the AO

[wintry swan]

i coulda sworn that afterburner used to be +2, was it nerfed?

[queen tendon]

Because we’re better

[silver widget]

Hang on, I just realized. Do you have afterburners? I don’t see it noted anywhere.

[royal minnow]

Where would I need to have noted it?

[silver widget]

The spreadsheet, where it says “notes,” and also orders; unless “reckless driving” = afterburner

[royal minnow]

Oh

Sure, we go with that

Reckless driving, sponsored by afterburner

Are afterburners a requisition upgrade though?

[willow lantern]

Yep

[silver widget]

Yes, that’s why I was asking if you had it

[willow lantern]

To get them you buy it on the shop on S.A.M.

[royal minnow]

Heck

I’m new here, I don’t have money

So no afterburners

[restive root]

Hello friends. I've been reading the rules twice already but there are things that I yet don't understand. 🥺

[royal minnow]

You read the rules?

[restive root]

I'd like to verify these two statements:

• 1 Speed means I can either move 1 Hex or perform 2 Actions.
• As an Engi my order types available are Hold, Advance and Rush.

[restive root]

Yeah, like... two and a half times already

[royal minnow]

Dang

[restive root]

And yet I have these questions:

[royal minnow]

Good job

[restive root]

• How many Construct Supplies do I have? 4?
• How to get more Supplies?
• What is the blue on the maps?

[royal minnow]

That sounds right from what I can gather

[restive root]

Also last time it seemed that I sent my order to the wrong BG. Should I be sending it to BG4, or BG10?

[willow lantern]

Pretty sure engies start with 4 supplies, which you can get more from logi trucks, VTOLs, HATs, supply depots, etc...

[silver widget]

• Yes, but that’s tied to your supply. If you repair something that also uses supply.
• You can get more from any unit with supplies, just make sure to coordinate with that unit
• blue on maps are buildings

[restive root]

What happens if you go inside a building, besides the Defense boost? Is there like smaller maps for the inside of the buildings?

Or the purpose of the buildings is specifically the Defense boost?

[silver widget]

Defense boost, yes. Smaller maps, no.

[willow lantern]

I think some buildings can have smaller maps, but they are the exception

Buildings also block field of vision

[royal minnow]

So just so you know, Axx, I won’t be able to readjust my tac-map picture in my repost for my Order

[silver widget]

Looks like you are in Dwarf Merchants so BG 10

[silver widget]

Line of fire, but I believe so

[queen tendon]

That’s fine, thanks for letting me know

[restive root]

When a Engi builds a Sandbag Line, the line is built in between the hex the Engi is in and another hex? Like, in the fringes/crevices of the hex tiles? In the sense that we'd want to plan properly in which position the line is looking at? Or is like, an abstraction of "now in this hex there is a sandbag line and units in this hex tile are protected"?

[queen tendon]

Your hex, you choose what side it’s facing but it’s perpendicular to a hex wall

[restive root]

Also, where could've found that out previously? Or was it mentioned here in Mission-Comms?

[queen tendon]

It’s wherever your unit is

[restive root]

But the side of the hex it's facing does matter then, right?

[silver widget]

#1382040428945211462 message

[restive root]

I was under the impression that there were already some trench lines built in the map, but in the pictures I've seen they are not visible, or at least I cannot identify them. How do trench lines look like in the maps?

Or are they not drawn?

[willow lantern]

I think Shack didn't put them in the map but there are some near the two buildings to the west

[silver widget]

It will look like this, if they aren’t on the map; they aren’t there

[queen tendon]

You orient your unit facing a certain hex, then the sandbag is placed where you’re facing

Ie “I move to this hex and face the hex to the right” your sandbag would pop out to the right of your unit

[restive root]

Oh thank you, Im guessing this document is getting updated as the game progresses, right?

[restive root]

Yeah cause I remember I said I wanted to follow somebody's plan about building some trenches and went I said I was going to build it in certain hex they told me there was something there already.

[silver widget]

That was the idea. Hasn’t been updated much I’m afraid though 😅

[restive root]

Ooh you mean the dark pit?

[silver widget]

Yeah

The dark line between 71med and Balius

[restive root]

I see, so it is very important to clarify where I'm looking at even if I'm not going to be shooting

[queen tendon]

Correct

[restive root]

Alright thank you tho, thanks everyone for the clarifications

[silver widget]

No problem

[restive root]

I've had these questions for a while now but I've been very busy and also wasn't like... Able to formulate them properly

That's why I wanted to read everything again to make sure

Are the red guys the evil robots?

[silver widget]

Yup

[restive root]

What about these guys over here? What's the difference between the black ones and the red ones?

Are they dead? Cause I'm guessing this one is dead:

That, or going Super Saiyan

I'm mostly asking to understand what I'm looking at to see how can I be most helpful

Cause I also remember there was somebody... Warrior? Who had somewhat of a plan but I don't know how far-into-the-future that plan was nor I know how to find that again. 😵‍💫

[royal minnow]

Reposted

[restive root]

Or for example, let's say I move to 3017 and try to build a sandbag line there

[silver widget]

Black = dead, yellow flames means direct hit

[restive root]

Would that be counterintuitive or problematic for other players?

Like, for example, if I build a sandbag line would that prevent the movement of my comrades?

[silent glade]

Nope. We can move right oversandbags and trenches

[silver widget]

I don’t believe so, and it would benefit players as it provides cover

[restive root]

Marvelous, what about the green spots in the map? Blue are buildings, yellow is like... Fog, iirc, and green is... wall?

[silver widget]

Blue is buildings [gives defense bonus], green is high ground [gives attack bonus], yellow is areas with natural cover like forests [gives defense bonus]

[restive root]

I do say I don't know if maybe that was in the sections I skipped over (Like the orbital battle stuff) but there was no mention of high ground in the ruels I was reading. 😟

[tired cairn]

any logi trucks near 2017 that want some light supply?

[tired cairn]

2917*

[royal minnow]

Dang it, @willow lantern, how do I get to RP a response to your Order?

😆

[restive root]

Oooh I thought that it meant you were above the target in the sense of like... A plane.

Like literally above.

And that made sense to me hashdahdas

[silver widget]

You guys could always coordinate rp and resubmit orders if you guys wanted to do that

[restive root]

And alright now in a more meta spirit

Should I like... Be asking if people need an engi for some reason around here?

Or

Like, how can I take into consideration what you guys need for me to be helpful

Cause for example that idea of putting the sandbags in 3017 makes sense to me

[silver widget]

That or whatever you feel would be the best action

[tired cairn]

@queen tendon AFAIK all the logi trucks have put their orders in, and are still kinda fine for supplies according to the spreadsheet, ill try to coordinate with them for next time

[restive root]

So in that case should I ask first? Or should I do whatever I feel like? 🤔

[silver widget]

Up to you

[restive root]

🤔 I see...

[willow lantern]

Always good to check what the others are doing but the final call is yours

[tired cairn]

I have resubmitted my orders

[royal minnow]

Trueee

[willow lantern]

Yeah, we could always resubmit the order I guess

[silver widget]

You guys also don’t have to, I just know it’s a lot of fun to build off of others’ rp. For example, in the last two orders I’ve given, I incorporated stuff from others to build consistency and an overall narrative.

[queen tendon]

@tired cairn could you delete your original order please

[silent glade]

with something like an engineer, repairing does require coordination, but you canmove wherever and build stuff wherever you feel like

@polar comet plz try to keep rp and orders together in one post

[restive root]

I would like to try to go and do that then

I see that Lootbox is down here

[queen tendon]

One hour left for turn 7 orders

@dim vortex
@modest pagoda
@lean notch
@dreamy glade

[restive root]

Right

[queen tendon]

you too Choc, but since you're right here I won't ping you

[restive root]

I am inside of Lootbox

Which is in that corner of 2919? And I want to reach 3017

But unembarking Lootbox consumes Speed, right?

So, basically my question in this case would be... if I disembark

And move to 3017

Or at least try to

How much do I actually get to move knowing that I have 1 Speed

Do I at least manage to reach where the F/P plain is at?

[queen tendon]

You would dismount and have .5 speed left

Meaning you could make it to the middle of 2818. If you rushed you could make it to the edge of 2818, but that makes you a big target

[lean notch]

Does anyone need VTOL support?

[silent glade]

aah

[snow python]

well shit

[queen tendon]

welp

[tired cairn]

uhhhhhhh

[queen tendon]

its been real

[silent glade]

i was just about to ping people about some orders

[chilly bridge]

Awww

[civic folio]

aw :<

my first campaign

[hybrid hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[civic folio]

didnt even get to shoot anything

[fervent sage]

Robots shut down on us

[hybrid hazel]

it was an honour for the two rounds we got to play bois

[fervent sage]

Don’t worry, always next time

[spice sparrow]

Well, that was unexpected

[hybrid hazel]

life happens. hope all is good

[spice sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-dies-thanks-avengers-bye-gif-13915365

[snow python]

and now I scheme.

[willow lantern]

Oh damn

Wel it was good while it lasted

[frank grotto]

Thanks everyone

i get my spec ops troops at least

[silent glade]

indeed, i was about to try some ram a building and deploy inf shenanigans next turn 😅

[willow lantern]

This turn was going to be the funny one

[silent glade]

we can always get the ol Dwarf Fortress back together with a better deployment system next campaign XD

[willow lantern]

You already know

Next time they'll see the power of the dwarves

[reef merlin]

Well it's been an honor everyone, even if it was abrupt.

[snow python]

im hoping arty will get some love next campaign. really hope this Super heavy ARTY thing become reality. if it doesn't I'll probably still work towards my Heavy Hauler.

[silver widget]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[fervent sage]

I do hope Shack is doing okay

[silent glade]

indeed, that is the important thing

[vivid vessel]

Yeah hope everything's all alright

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, I hope so as well.

[vale geode]

Oh shoot crap that’s so sudden… hope he does better

[civic folio]

yeah, now im real worried

[restive root]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-13733520837138668720

[honest quail]

hope shack's alright, this was sudden

[restive root]

Just when I was finally understanding what was going on 😵‍💫

But yeah I doubt they would've like... Take that decision as a whim.

[honest quail]

we had a good run, hopefully see you guys next campaign

[silver widget]

Well, at least you know for next time

[willow lantern]

Well at least you can already buy upgrades for next campaign

[restive root]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-baby-cute-gif-15911111

Precisely

[silver widget]

Now the real question is do I upgrade Howitz or make/upgrade a new unit? 🤔

[willow lantern]

Next campaign we'll be packing a punch

[honest quail]

I need advice guys

do I
A) invest in my engineers
B) use 4/5 of my points to get a heavy mech leaving me with 1 point left

[willow lantern]

The heavy mech is tempting

What would you have on it?

[honest quail]

I could get a light laser or a heavy drop pod system

cuz 1 point

I'd basically be a big mf with fists and a light armament

[civic folio]

i kinda wanna see what the next fight is before investing into anything personally

[honest quail]

wait wait so @willow lantern possible idea

CQC heavy mech

with drop pod system

[willow lantern]

BRUH

[honest quail]

its like if you could drop muhammad ali in his prime from the international space station

but then again

heavy mech could get obliterated

[willow lantern]

Guy's going to drop on top of someone and start beating the crap out of them

[honest quail]

yes

[vale geode]

do i need to deactivate my unit or will it be done by someone, does anyone know?

[dusk prairie]

If you had not gotten the ping campaign is over

[honest quail]

actually let me check the sheet for any other possible upgrades

[indigo willow]

Could become a SPG if you want to do damage as arty

[willow lantern]

The idea is really fricking funny but if don't have any other mech weapons it's not really worth it

[honest quail]

yeah I know

[vale geode]

so we have to manually deactivate a unit from campaign then?

[honest quail]

might have to wait uit until my engis do another campaign

until*

so I can build a proper heavy mech

wait

@willow lantern I could get a melee weapon

[dusk prairie]

No at this stage just wait

[honest quail]

oh wait no

I'd need fists upgrades

[honest quail]

if your talking to me, thats what im doing

[indigo willow]

@wintry swan Hopefully I’ll get to be your wingman in a future campaign o7

[willow lantern]

Yup

[indigo willow]

Responding to kommando I think.

[honest quail]

oh

[willow lantern]

Heavy mech is more viable if you already have a mech with stuff

[honest quail]

deactivation should be automatic

[honest quail]

upgrades transfer right? also can upgrades be switched out

or rather, attachments

[willow lantern]

For mechs yes

[honest quail]

mk sick

[willow lantern]

I dunno if you can switch tho

[honest quail]

yeah I'll just wait

[willow lantern]

Ask one of the mech guys

[honest quail]

I'll look into engi upgrades for now ig

[honest quail]

@astral nymph :P

[silver widget]

Don’t need to switch cause you can just have all of them i’m pretty sure, unless it’s a refit

[willow lantern]

Well, now I can finally become a medical corp

[dreamy glade]

ill turn in my order now

ill just stay where i am

[honest quail]

uh the campaign ended

[dreamy glade]

oh shit yeah didnt find the oreders lol

[vale geode]

yeah imma wait for my unit to get deactivated before i ask to do it...

[dreamy glade]

what happened?

[honest quail]

shack said personal reasongs