Battlegroup 4/10 - Dwarf Fortress & Merchants: Comms

[silent glade]

just 1 extra, but the building just about pokes this way far enough maybe xD

[honest quail]

AMPE would be the one towing you to 2816 so make sure they bring you there in their own order. looks good otherwise. could say facing east instead of 3216 but I think it's fine

[astral nymph]

That is my plan, yeah. Spending my 3 movement to come in off the edge and dig that trench line

[vale geode]

As for everyone else, if you do join me, I believe there’s a road connecting the south to another area we control/will control.

If we control the south then we can easily garuntee safe travel southward for those who need it

[honest quail]

There is no road southward.

[valid pecan]

Sweet thank you. Ill get an Rp for it then post for real.

[silent glade]

depends, if we start on the map edge then nah its too far. if we appear on the map in our travel formation? that might bump me close enough

[honest quail]

Only ways to go are to Elim or to H-H

[vale geode]

Yeah I see that now…

[honest quail]

I initially thought the same thing when I drew up the operational zone map for the BG google sheet but quickly realized this was a one way street

[vale geode]

Well I’m still dropping there becuase the very least I can just dig in with an HMG and deny than entire mountain pass to the bots if needed

[queen tendon]

You start on the edge of the map and then get your movement

[honest quail]

this is good. you and anybody that comes with you are an important flank

[wintry swan]

Where are our HATs going?

[silent glade]

fair enough, hmm

[honest quail]

I think it would be hold as you arent moving @valid pecan

[queen tendon]

One is thinking about going south. But I’m not sure the others

[astral nymph]

There is a narrow pass in 2919 but thats the only pass on that line of that mountains

[steady island]

according to mid round events those are robo APCs

[rich olive]

It looks like a half-track of sorts to me.

[honest quail]

@astral nymph you'll run up from the west side of the map to the dig site right?

also would construct classify as a movement type

or just hold

[valid pecan]

First shots fired in anger by the dwarves.

[honest quail]

nice :D

[soft agate]

Where should i ask for IYKY to bring me? Wheres the arty dquads setting up

[sand whale]

Solid Gold Tank

[sand whale]

Iron hammer “each problem is a nail” 🤣

[honest quail]

yeah its a good one

[haughty mauve]

@chilly bridge to answer your question yes. I think we can do some good work since you have shields and me melee weapons. Plus our armor

[quaint ember]

I am dwarf merchant

I am happy to help tho

[honest quail]

dwarf merchant and dwarf fortress are effectively the same thing I believe

but glad to have you aboard :D

[astral nymph]

It does not specify. It just says I get a construction point to assist with

I'll be going 2217 to 2816 to 2917 and then I will SUMMON SHOVEL.

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[fervent sage]

So what’s the plan for this turn, VTOL pilot here

[dim vortex]

🫡

You're carrying my very chipper crew so lemme know

[fervent sage]

We are a great taxi, be sure to rate us 5 stars on the Armitage app ;3

[vale geode]

Drop me like around 2920, where the LZ is. I’ll double time it into the forest and hope nothing shoots me.

Once I get to 3219, I can set up an HMG or make a attack from there based on what I see

[soft bloom]

A DAREing maneuver? I could be persuaded perchance

[willow lantern]

are we only moving to hill mine this turn or are we already dropping?

[valid pecan]

We are placing on the west edge of the map.

[warm hazel]

Ah haven't heard from my hitched arty yet

Waiting to figure out where they wanna go

[rich olive]

We are deploying on the map this turn.

[honest quail]

@queen tendon My order's in.

had to resend forgot to put "Hold" as my order type :P

[wintry swan]

Any HATs please ping me when you put your order in

[royal minnow]

[night quarry]

I'm fine with that. I was going to ask about doing that. I have a high interest in the light blue.

[quaint ember]

Honestly like

I'm gonna put my order in after the other engi so we don't stack up on one side

[night quarry]

The only way through that mountain is the hex of 2919.

[rich olive]

I was thinking of paradropping in.

I did come up with a few other flight paths I feel are rather safe that should get us into good position for paradropping or let us paradrop here that I would like opinions on.

[night quarry]

If I remember correctly one small supply does two units wide of sand bags right?

[honest quail]

yes

[reef merlin]

I'll jump here to say that if we want to do red or purple (I very willing to do so and I believe is closest to what those of you I'd be paradropping want), I'm going to need a fighter or at least another not HAT air unit in front of me in case of AA. A simple reminder that if I take any damage the lot of you and I all go down.

[honest quail]

one small supply = 1 sandbag wall, 1 sandbag wall = enough for 2 units to fit behind

[rich olive]

I believe @wintry swan would be willing to escort.

[honest quail]

@night quarry We'll need to do sandbags, then do trenchline

Prioritize initial defenses so infantry have some cover

Then we can work on adding extra nice bits like razor wire or tank traps

[wintry swan]

I would be willing to provide escort against enemy aircraft but not against enemy flak
The solution to dealing with flak is to have ground units kill them, not to tank them with aircraft hp

[night quarry]

I can drop 2 small supply of sand bag before I head south or do you want me to directly follow group strait there and not spend any?

[night quarry]

10-4

Heads up. I work 7am to 5 pm EST, 4 days a week, so my reply on those days will be late.

[honest quail]

Yeah no worries, we've got time.

[honest quail]

Are you going with Templar and the Southern Vanguard group

[rich olive]

Remember you have to jump out of a HAT before you can do anything on the ground.

[night quarry]

Planed on going unless otherwise

[honest quail]

he could be in a ground vic

[night quarry]

I'm in a HAT

And I only have basics

[honest quail]

Well you'd have to go something like this (depending on where you build the sandbags)

It might be a bit out of your way

[night quarry]

That is fine.

[rich olive]

I am also worried about letting the HAT get that close to those signals because we don't know if the bots have any AA yet.

[honest quail]

Yeah, ideally they can come in after the ground vics push through in my mind.

[night quarry]

As I said I am willing to drop two small supplies of sand bags before heading of south ward.

[honest quail]

Well some sandbag walls would be greatly appreciated.

[honest quail]

Sure.

[hybrid hazel]

anyone know if vehicles like IFVs could pass through areas like I marked? I haven't seen anything that says they can't but want to check for my buddy

[honest quail]

It looks passable

Only a hill terrain in the way, I think thats the route the group led by Templar is taking

IFVs, to my understanding, arent restricted from crossing a hill

[sand whale]

Are we able to make actions in map?

[hybrid hazel]

if so, my buddy and Votann Inf, STARRMB Vtol, myself might all push through that area to clear it out

[honest quail]

Yes, we're deploying.

[sand whale]

Cool what are the MBT’s supposed to do?

[night quarry]

Need to keep at least two supplies in case need to breach or other wise.

[honest quail]

You might want to go with @vale geode and his group then, I think he's taking a group that way.

[honest quail]

yeh

[hybrid hazel]

if so we can probably roll up together well then

[reef merlin]

My main worry about the AA is what it's range would be, if it's a range of 2 or more it'll be difficult to get close to the light blue area, assuming the top left ? is AA.

[honest quail]

I mean, it's up to you. Most of us are going on the central West side and pushing East into the city.

[hybrid hazel]

I wonder how artillery interact with people in structures

[honest quail]

And a smaller group is going through the southwest corner

[honest quail]

It'd do the same defense stat decline I'd assume

[night quarry]

So where did @reef merlin land

[honest quail]

I don't know.

[reef merlin]

I haven't made a flight path yet.

[night quarry]

So that I may get out and proceed with building.

[night quarry]

Got ya.

[rich olive]

That's why I think the path in the first picture is the best for us but judging from what BluWolf wants to do and just the general unknowns you might want to do something more like the second picture.

[sand whale]

@vivid vessel @civic folio @rigid jacinth Hey other MBT’s. What are we thinking?

[reef merlin]

Currently we are trying to figure out where we would want to go, if you can tell me where you want to go that'll help me figure out a path.

[rich olive]

I also don't know how many people get to jump out over 1 hex because if it's 1 squad per hex then to get everyone out you will need to fly over a lot more area.

[honest quail]

@queen tendon best of luck to us both, hopefully we arent blown out of the sky :P

[night quarry]

If you drop me off in 2716 or 2717 that's fine.

[rigid jacinth]

Hmmm, I personally was going to stay near the artillery line and provide defensive support. Both attacking any encroaching enemy and providing a solid unit to take any offensive fire.

[reef merlin]

I'm unsure with how this current ruleset does the grouping, I just know you drop along my flightpath.

[night quarry]

I'll just have to rush to the front to lay bags then rush again to head sout.

[quaint ember]

I'll dig the trench

[honest quail]

reuploading defense plan here so people see it

[honest quail]

you'll have to put sandbag walls down first, then you put a trench down in another action(?)

[sand whale]

That sounds good. Maybe we deploy in cell 2713 and move to the north mountains?

[honest quail]

but thank you for helping out nonclue :D

[night quarry]

Yes that is correct

[vivid vessel]

I was thinking of going to 2818, and then either move up to 3018 to pressure the center, or swing down the 2919 pass if the Templar push down south is in desperate need of firepower

[night quarry]

It's another action to upgrade

[vivid vessel]

But seeing as it doesn't look like there is much in the south, I'll probably push northward from that position because it bypasses a lot of the bots cover

[night quarry]

Though I do believe it is free for digging trenches

[queen tendon]

I'm sure we'll be fine

[reef merlin]

I can likely do that, if I try to accommodate flying down to near the light blue zone I'll probably have to start from one of those points. I am trying to accommodate as many of my passengers as I can so you all can get to where you need.

[rigid jacinth]

I think I'll Deploy in 2716 and move to 2917 to hold that location and give single target enemies a target to shoot at that isn't our logi trucks or artillery until we get a solid line set up.

[honest quail]

it is

thankfully lol

[rich olive]

I will say if you feel we'll get blown up doing something I am fine with you just saying we're not doing that.

[quaint ember]

Someone put the sandbag then I upgrade it to trench that's what I meant, mb

[honest quail]

oh yeah sure

could coordinate with ingenitum (or any of the other engis when they see the message)

[sand whale]

Maybe we can deploy at 2716. I think that’s the most versatile position.

[vivid vessel]

That'll be good, my movement is little bit reliant on someone else holding the center to protect (what I expect will be) the main body of the BG

[reef merlin]

I'm fine flying through 2820 and some of 2920, just the lack of knowledge on what the top-left of the light blue zone could come back to hurt us. My fear of dying is less about me not being able to play but rather having all you guys lose the ability to play before you even can start, though I am willing to fly down there if that's really where you want to go (if you're only partial then I can look into more northern drop points for you lot).

[sand whale]

Cool. Its agreed. We all deploy at 2716 and then move to wherever we want. One in north south and center.

Then we can have the last MBT backup wherever it is needed.

[rich olive]

Well right now I'm just trying to get everyone in the HAT's opinion. Personally I believe that every signal in the light blue building is most likely friendly from how disorganized they look but I have no proof of this.

[vivid vessel]

Well I would be more like 2718 to get into position faster buuuut sounds good to me

Though I do know Clutch was thinking about pushing all the way south around the mountains

[quaint ember]

Why don't I just up yours to trench

[sand whale]

I mean practically the same. If you are going further south that sounds good.

[vivid vessel]

Yee

[rich olive]

Looking at what BluWolf wants to do it might be better to just paradrop in our backlines like this.

[vale geode]

i would like to call the Southern push through the mountains...

Operation Christ and Combat

[sand whale]

@rigid jacinth? #1382040428945211462 message

[vale geode]

also... most of my stuff is named after songs so eventually ill get more creative

[sand whale]

Should we ping a TACCOM about our plans MBT’s?

[queen tendon]

im here

whats up

[willow lantern]

does it have to be a straight line? Because if not I'd request to be dropped on 2818 to follow Templar

[vivid vessel]

I guess we just put in our individual orders when each of us gets the chance

[warm hazel]

Holy shit how big is Vinny

[reef merlin]

It's possible they are friendly, but lack of intel is the major issue here. I also think it's a worthwhile investigation but I do want hear what the other people in my HAT want to do as well. Worse comes to absolute worst I drop off some people up North and then if we get better intel on the South I fly those who stay behind down there for their own drop.

[warm hazel]

Massive tank

[velvet scarab]

Big vinny

[vale geode]

has to be straight im afraid as well as dont risk terrain or you take 1d4 damage

[queen tendon]

"Paradrop Infantry and light vehicles, infantry / light vehicles can exit in flight with no speed cost, but must be in a straight line through the aircraft's flight path. Space must be clear, if not then take D4 damage on landing. Vehicles are destroyed on a 4."

[rich olive]

Sadly yes and I also want to support Templar.

[warm hazel]

Touching the middle building

[velvet scarab]

More like bigsigdon

[vivid vessel]

He is the TONK

[willow lantern]

damn

[warm hazel]

Is this the true power of the heavy refit?

Luckily we can arty civies by accident with no incident

[sand whale]

MBT’s are looking to deploy around 2917 or 2918 and then we will move respectively to the north/center/south to fire on “?” units and provide support to artillery to get in place.

[warm hazel]

As it can't do damage

[sand whale]

Map plan #1382040428945211462 message

[vale geode]

also if someone would like to everyone thats infantry real quick... make sure we spread us groundpounders out.

I think myself, maybe 1 other grunt, a medic, an engi, and a PAI at most should go south with everyone else going forward.

Unless the taccoms can assume a LM or a LV can queeze that mountain pass gap with no issue

[velvet scarab]

@soft agate anywhere specific you'd like to get set up this turn?

[rich olive]

The question I want to know the answer to is if you can drop 2 or more infantry per hex because I imagine there is a limit as the HAT is still flying but also I feel like 1 per hex is very slow.

[warm hazel]

Getting the infantry on the trenches for a holding line that the bots can crash and die on sounds good

[queen tendon]

You'll only have one speed coming out of the tactical move, but with a range of two if they try to get close to where we are setting up our defensive line you should be able to get shots off.

This works mechanically

[rich olive]

Yeah, from what I got most of us are ok with going south to support Templar but BluWolf needs to stay above the mountains for a bit to help with trench building.

[warm hazel]

I see where you dumped your Engi team

[sand whale]

We got a range of 3…? Speed 2 so only speed 1 when we get through.

[warm hazel]

Might be a good idea for me to drive up and drop off the arty there

[queen tendon]

range of two, but other than that yes.

Pretty much every other number on the thing is a three lmao. Crew, AP, Hits, Armor

[warm hazel]

Tanks only range two

[night quarry]

Silly question. I see infantry can paradrop, so could Engineers do it to or am I thinking into it to much?

[willow lantern]

they totally can

[rich olive]

Engineers and Medics count as Infantry I believe.

[queen tendon]

infantry units can, the all encompassing idea of people being units

[sand whale]

What range are we talking about? Movement or weapon? Because weapon is 3.

[night quarry]

Okay.

[queen tendon]

"Crew 3, 3 Hits, Armor 3, Subsystems, Speed 2, d6 Canon, Range 2, AP 3"

[warm hazel]

All human based units have the tag infantry

[reef merlin]

Yeah, I am likely going to have to start at 2717 so that BluWolf can drop there. My question on paradropping would then be if all groups then would have to go or could they hold to jump later along the flight path. (from my memory paradropping used to be the droppees (albeit free) action)

[misty storm]

Final Update: BG3 is going to Nery's Village this turn (18 Nerys : 17 Hill Mines, Poll Closed)

[queen tendon]

Good luck and godspeed

[night quarry]

If you are going to paradrop people then I'll still get out at 2716 or 2717 then just in case.

[warm hazel]

Ah too late to hop in

Best of luck

Missing out of Dwarven cooking

[sand whale]

Anyone else also looking to work with us MBTs as infantry support?

[queen tendon]

Alright, I'm off the computer for the night but ping me if you need me. It's awesome seeing everyone active and planning

[night quarry]

10-4

[reef merlin]

I plan to start at 2717 so you can drop then.

[queen tendon]

Make sure to add a little map on your orders, it helps the TCOs out a lot

[night quarry]

10-4 putting in order now then.

[warm hazel]

We lost the title of the most messages

Right up until we hit mapside

[queen tendon]

Not necessary, but definintely suggested

[rich olive]

I mean I feel they should be able to wait to drop later as it's not like the first person jumping is dragging the others out with them.

[night quarry]

Oh before you go paradroping is one action yes?

[queen tendon]

We'll definitely take it back

[queen tendon]

Paradropping takes no speed

[warm hazel]

We have it back

[queen tendon]

"Paradrop Infantry and light vehicles, infantry / light vehicles can exit in flight with no speed cost, but must be in a straight line through the aircraft's flight path. Space must be clear, if not then take D4 damage on landing. Vehicles are destroyed on a 4."

[reef merlin]

It's a no speed action. So you can still do other things after it.

[night quarry]

My bad squirrel moment.

[warm hazel]

Need thicker rubber tires

[queen tendon]

you do have to drop straight down, unless you have the wing suit upgrade

so keep that in mind

[sand whale]

@vivid vessel @rigid jacinth which cells are you deploying from and to exactly?

[vale geode]

btw can somneone ping me who is coming south so i have a rough headcount and also if needed can send people away back to the frontline?

[willow lantern]

I plan on going

[sand whale]

WIP @sand whale
#1382040428945211462 message

MBT Battle Plan + Roster:

Aurum:
From: 2717
To: 2816

Bukshot:
From: 2719
To: 2818

Drinker:
From: 2717
To: 2816

Hammer:
From: 2717
To:

[rich olive]

I also plan on going if we can figure out this flight path.

[sand whale]

Shotgoon. [MBT]

[vivid vessel]

Not set in stone

[sand whale]

soz

[vivid vessel]

I'm emergency kill everything that moves

[warm hazel]

Rushing as a Logi truck, oh god I'mma take double damage

[vivid vessel]

Break glass in case of robots

[warm hazel]

💔

[vale geode]

only if someone bothers to shoot at ya

[rich olive]

@minor solar also appears to be down for going south.

[vale geode]

alright so i ahve myself, a medic, one MBT... and what are you bastion?

[night quarry]

Once I am on the ground I plan to head to hex 3016

[warm hazel]

Downside is that it makes me more of a priority

[rich olive]

I am Infantry and so is Onyx.

[vivid vessel]

Arrival turn: 2719 to 2818.
Second turn: 2818 to 3018 or 2818 to 3019

[night quarry]

Or do you all think I should just move one hex and wait an see what the question marks are that you all find.

[rich olive]

I haven't heard from our second medic yet.

[vale geode]

so we have 3 infantry... that should be plenty.

no seriously we can have all of us go south someone needs to sit in the middle and do stuff in trenches

[rigid jacinth]

From 2717 to 2816 since I only have one movement point left after entering the tac map.

[warm hazel]

We definitely want to make attacks on this turn, and yeah you should be able to cover the engineers

[rigid jacinth]

My facing will be directly west, and I'll be able to fire upon the first enemy to enter within range 2.

[warm hazel]

We may want to use artillery to drive the longer range vehicles (my assumption on the larger question marks) into MBT range

[sand whale]

Nice. Thanks.

[rigid jacinth]

I could rush action to keep up with the artillery, but then I'd be severely vulnerable and might end up being destroyed by the first enemy barrage.

[sand whale]

Remember moving a cell costs 0.5 speed. Plus. Firing is a primary action and costs no speed.

[rigid jacinth]

Did I miss something? Reading the speed rules the movement is = to the number of cells that can be moved through, was there information that changed that for our tactical maps?

[sand whale]

Ah. Must be my bad. I’ll see if I can find the rules for movement :)

My bad. I was reading actions instead of speed :P

[rigid jacinth]

It's cool. Just wanted to clarify.

[night quarry]

Moving one hex is one speed.

[vivid vessel]

smh my head

[honest quail]

oh nalla is already going to help me with that

you gotta find another engi's sandbags to dig

[night quarry]

@honest quail Should I rush to hex 3016 or should I move just one hex till everyone sees what those question marks are?

[warm hazel]

Wew thought I was way faster for a moment

[honest quail]

you can say in your order you go AFTER combat folks roll through I think

then you can start putting down walls

[warm hazel]

We should likely bait the question marks into coming at us due to not being able to move deep into the territory

[honest quail]

I don't want you to walk into gunfire afterall

[warm hazel]

And so we get attacks off first round

[sand whale]

Cool. I’ve edited my planned order to fix my speed.

[prisma nacelle]

Still waiting to hear back from my LV transport @polar comet , but I'm keen to get in there. If any infantry can get up there with us to dig or start shooting that'd be cool.

[warm hazel]

I'll be ready and nearby to restock you in your defense building efforts

[honest quail]

Copy that, thank you :D

Also, nice pfp.

[honest quail]

This reminds me I totally forgot to add the image I was supposed to for my order

im gonna go do that real quick

[warm hazel]

I'm thinking of heading to 2917 to unhitch arty but that could put them at great risk though would be better placement for next rounds actions

Tried to contact my arty hitched but havent gotten a ping back

[rich olive]

Ok, @reef merlin it looks like quite a few Infantry can paradrop per hex (or I just had a big misunderstanding) so I think the flight path can be shorter.

So something like this where BluWolf paradrops on 2717 and whoever wants to paradrops on either 2818 or 2920 although 2920 might not be completely safe.

[polar comet]

Oi! I pinged you first! (Though at this point it might as well be ancient history)

As far as the plans go, that looks great. That is basically a path I was going to use anyway

[night quarry]

Do not forget that the only passage we can go through is in hex 2919

[civic forge]

@snow python Hey man me and a few other units are planning on doing a push on the southern flank since you hitched to me that good to you?

[warm hazel]

Getting a pincer on the south side seems like it will be quite effective with the other bg

[prisma nacelle]

Shit, sorry. It didn't do the thing.

[night quarry]

Do you mind doing g a order check?

Callsign: BluWolf
Unit: Engineers
Carrying: 4/4 Small Supplies
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Paradop, Hold till battle force moves and rolls first, then Order Rush
Movement: Paradrop into 2717, hold till combat units get ahead of my unit, then proceed to Hex 3016

Start Coords: P/F'S Cargo hold
Ending Coords: Hex 3016
Facing: Middle of trees facing towards 3117

RP:

[vale geode]

Current thought for Christ and Combats plan in the South.

We set up at the Blue line then have a chance to assault along the red arrow.

Thoughts for first impressions?

[minor solar]

Where are we dropping. The coords are needed for the order.

[hybrid hazel]

yo templar, I'll be dropping in with you and I have an IFV with another infantry following up

[glass wolf]

Hey Dwarves
LM Draken and I were thinking of either pushing past those vehicles and scout the northern side of the mines, or harass them while they're in range
Do you guys have a preference for what you'd have us do?

[vale geode]

I’m in a VTOL who’s gonna drop me off.

Recommend you appear on the long line somewhere whether paradrop or just dropped off then move south.

You should be okay to double time in theory

[vale geode]

You probably should scout and harass whatever goes north. If we don’t have anyone go that way, you’re the only thing slowing the bots down up there

[hybrid hazel]

I also have a Vtol, I can drop in at 2920 also

[vale geode]

If you’re VTOL then drop on my position at 2920.

Otherwise hoof it the other way and act as a reserve unit in case something sudden happens

[hybrid hazel]

alright I'll drop in at 2920 with you

[minor solar]

I'ld drop at 2718 and move along the mountains to the blue line in the south.

[glass wolf]

Roger, we'll do a drive by on those transports and likely end our movement in 3415/3416.
Godspeed

[willow lantern]

I'll be dropping on 2718 or 2818 depending on P/F's trajectory and meeting with you guys on the way

[minor solar]

Like this

[vale geode]

That might be a good idea as well.

Just realize if anything happens we have a whole impassible mountain between us

[honest quail]

This looks good.

Sorry, was doing other stuff.

Can't you still do your action though?

For sandbags

oh wait hold on @night quarry we're speed 1

I don't think you can go that far

[minor solar]

We could do it so that those in VTOLs go were you drop and the rest move along the mountain towards the blue line. Picking off any hostiles on the way.

[vale geode]

Well rn the only confirmed ones are ahead of 2920…. So when we move into the trees for cover, we’re gonna run into them in the light blue and on the way to the green

[night quarry]

Rush doubles it.

Unless I'm mistaken

[minor solar]

Ending Coords for me, if i go along with my plan, would be 3319. Meeting hostiles there.

[night quarry]

So I would have a speed of 2.

[sand whale]

Is there anyone that wishes to work with us MBT’s?

We could welcome infantry support.

[vale geode]

if theres 3 going south and 12 in total of normal infantry, should be able to find the other 9 going eastward

[sand whale]

Any going north? I’m thinking of looking toward the “?” On 3213.

[polar comet]

That’s all good

[vale geode]

An LV is headed that way but as for infantry you may need to ask around

[honest quail]

oh okay

yeah it does

[indigo willow]

@wintry swan Do you have any ideas for our deployment and where on Hill Mine we should try to cover? I want to stay together for survivability.

[sand whale]

What is our overall plan for defense of hill mine? How many trenches do you think we can get away with?

[minor solar]

As many as we can build

So my idea would be this.

Drop in yellow - move along the first Red line - find out what that large signature is (Orange btw, fight it if possible or needed) - move along Red line - same as first orange - meet up with the rest for further Mission targets.

As outlined several posts above

Thoughts

[prisma nacelle]

Sandbags planned to go up in your path on 3018 atm, so you can pause there for cover

[minor solar]

Would be a two turn move though

Turn 6 Order

Callsign: Onyx
Unit: Infantry
Carrying: N/A
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Paradrop
Movement: loaded inside HAT P/F, drop and advance

Starting Coords: 2718
Ending Coords: 3018
Facing: 3118

RP: follows

Can someone proof read this. Thanks.

[sand whale]

Aren’t there hostiles in 3117?

[minor solar]

That is why i am stopping at 3018

In the hope i am not alone

[sand whale]

Uhh 😬

I haven’t heard anyone…

[honest quail]

our current defense plan but we hopefully can defend the entire city once we gain control:

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[sand whale]

But don’t worry! You’ll have tank support! (In a turn)

[minor solar]

Oh trenches nice

[sand whale]

Cool. You have 2 MBT’s in 2816 and 1 in 2818.

[wintry swan]

I agree. Since we have no idea what the enemy units are, I want to ensure we avoid walking into a flak ambush. So let's fly conservative this turn and loiter around 2816

thoughts?

[minor solar]

So first movement is T6 for this turn and T7 maybe for Turn 7 or 8, depending on enemy movement.

For me

Feel free to join in though

[sand whale]

By the way. What do the map colors mean?

[minor solar]

For me:

Yellow is drop/start zone
Red movement
Orange hostile contact

Those are just my map colours. Doing this via phone sucks.

[sand whale]

Ah. I mean the colours on the tactical map.

The blue/green/light blue and so forth.

[minor solar]

Ah, idk

Hazards maybe

[hybrid hazel]

random question, when I dismount from a vehicle for 0.5 speed, can I still advance into another hex with my remaining 0.5 speed and be on the edge of it?

[reef merlin]

Assuming you get dropped off in the middle of a hex yes.

[minor solar]

What do you think of the plan above?

[reef merlin]

This one?

[minor solar]

Yes

Possible or do you move differently?

[reef merlin]

I'll need to start at 2717, but I move at speed 7, meaning I could move down to 2715 to fly straight along to 3018 or maybe 3118.

[minor solar]

3018 would be good, avading some hostiles in 3118 and 3117.

[reef merlin]

That plan works for me, I'm hoping if you guys paradrop along that line you can land North of the mountain to avoid any paradrop damage.

[warm hazel]

We can get MBTs in range to fire at 014 through 018

Also been cooking tonight just got a moment of break

[rich olive]

So do we got a flight path?

[indigo willow]

Good Idea. Means we can launch forward next turn one what assets the bots have are identified.

[wintry swan]

Exactly, we'll be in range to engage any of them

[warm hazel]

Super greasy double American cheese bagel burgers with seasoned home fries

[indigo willow]

I’ll go 2816 facing 2917 so if we have to avoid the central bot build up we don’t have to fly over the fortress to the north that likely has AA.

[reef merlin]

If you guys are fine with it I can do this route where I drop Blu off at 2717 (and anyone else who wants to drop around the North. and then you guys can paradrop along the diagonal route (I presume, as I think we can space drops like that).

[minor solar]

Looks good

So we drop at 3018 directly

[reef merlin]

I may actually want to cut it at 2919, just so we are 2 hexes away from the nearest ?.

[minor solar]

Turn 6 Order

Callsign: Onyx
Unit: Infantry
Carrying: N/A
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Paradrop
Movement: loaded inside HAT P/F, drop and advance

Starting Coords: 2717 drop at 2919
Ending Coords: 3018
Facing: 3118

RP: follows

My Order would then be this, that ok?

[reef merlin]

Looks good to me.

[minor solar]

Good then imma Post it in the orders channel

[rich olive]

@dry wraith @willow lantern @odd valley @night quarry Just want to make sure you guys see this flight plan.

[reef merlin]

I'm cutting it at 2919, so some may be a little behind, sorry but I am a bit fearful of getting blown out of the air.

[willow lantern]

Can we drop directly on 2919 or do we take damage?

[vale geode]

youll take damage

anything in a hex for paradrop makes you take 1d4 damage

[reef merlin]

There isn't much safe terrain for me to fly over.

[willow lantern]

Wait, so 2818 is also risky?

[vale geode]

you need just a hex to paradrop so as long as theres 1 open you should be fine if i remeber right but ask a taccom if you need to to be sure

[minor solar]

@queen tendon we need some info here if you have time

So dropping in 2818 seems better

[willow lantern]

It's because I was planning to drop on 2818 or 2719 and go through 2919 to join with you guys. But, if I take d4 damage landing on those, then I'll have to land on 2718

[vale geode]

as ive learned... better safe than sorry

because if you take 4 on that drop youre dead and we cant afford that to happen

[reef merlin]

That being the case the flightpath could look more like this.

[queen tendon]

I’ve been summoned?

[willow lantern]

Yeah

[minor solar]

We need some info about Paradrop damage and limits

[willow lantern]

We're wondering if paradropping on 2818 would deal damage

[astral nymph]

Infantry can dig in the trench I believe, with their primary action (I can to cause catch these hands

[night quarry]

Don't forget we need a unit or two for the northern path.

[queen tendon]

No, the blue and orange will deal damage if you land there

[willow lantern]

So green is safe?

[astral nymph]

🧸 in mind, there will be 4 light mechs at least there as well

[queen tendon]

Green is safe

[willow lantern]

Perfect, thx for the help Axx

[reef merlin]

So 2919 is a safe land?

[astral nymph]

Yep yep just an action. I AM ANSWERING OLD QUESTIONS ARNT I. SORRY

[minor solar]

So 3018 is good to drop?

[vale geode]

my bad thought anything in a hex was bad mb

[queen tendon]

Also look at the unit size in the hex, you don’t take up the full thing. You can be precise with where you want to be

[astral nymph]

IF YOU HAVE BAD JUJU VIBES. Just say no. Trust your gut instinct on this

[reef merlin]

That's what I had assumed it was (I remember seeing that hexes were more like guidelines than the whole thing, but I could be misremembering that).

[minor solar]

Oh, that is nice

[queen tendon]

2919 is mostly safe. I believe the mountain part that’s not green is treated as out of bounds. Like you just can’t be there. So I image shack would have you take damage as you tumble down the mountain. But that’s just my conjecture

[reef merlin]

Yeah, I've drafted a path that doesn't put me at risk (or so I'm praying), I am never doubting the ability of the enemy to have AA ever again.

[minor solar]

So we land at 2919 and advance to 3018

[astral nymph]

I already am with my construction point, so your free for sandbags at another location, or something else you wanna do.

I can hear this and I love it

[queen tendon]

If you remember C3 where we had the big grid squares and those were just coordinates, you could have as many units in there as you could fit. Same deal but hexes this time

[astral nymph]

Friendlies put up green smoke, it was asekd of them. I wont ASSUME everything else is unfriendly, but more likely then not

[sand whale]

Hello everyone here are the plans for the MBTs.

WIP @sand whale
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MBT Battle Plan + Roster:

Aurum:
From: 2717
To: 2816

Bukshot:
From: 2719
To: 2818

Drinker:
From: 2717
To: 2816

Hammer:
From: 2717
To:

[minor solar]

I am treating this still as a recon phase tbh

[sand whale]

Thanks everyone and good luck 🍀

[rich olive]

I'm willing to risk it on 2919 as I can't die if we do take damage and roll a 4 I don't know if Prayers would want to do that.

[reef merlin]

Yeah, though those grids were a bit larger. My flight path intends to be a bit more north of the mountains (as drawn), so hopefully that will be recognized.

[vale geode]

Hey Nalla…

My newly made Operation Christ and Combat is on the move :3

hopefully we don’t die instantly

[sand whale]

I’m going to submit orders soon. 🔜

[reef merlin]

I trust nothing that isn't directly shown are friendly.

[willow lantern]

I prefer to play it safe and drop on 2818, personally

But for you it's not that big of a problem

[warm hazel]

Due to lack of speed 2816 may be a good space to safely unhitch my arty and give them good cover

[rich olive]

Yeah, I'll have a medic to heal me if my guys all tumble down the hill to your feet.

So maybe a flight plan close to this?

[minor solar]

Turn 6 Order

Callsign: Onyx
Unit: Infantry
Carrying: N/A
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Paradrop
Movement: loaded inside HAT P/F, drop and advance

Starting Coords: 2717 drop at 2919
Ending Coords: 3018
Facing: 3118

RP: follows

So this can be done?

[willow lantern]

Seems good

[reef merlin]

It's good, I'm drafting my order as well and that should be legitimate.

[queen tendon]

If you land in the blue you’re fine, if you land in the red I’m guessing you’ll take damage (or be routed to the blue where it’s safe). Reason being you can’t normally traverse in the red area so I would imagine it’s treated as rough terrain

The blue pencil drawing, not the building (I should’ve used a different color)

[minor solar]

You're good, it was understandable

[astral nymph]

Removes your cover and makes you a priority target for Some enemies. Would not recomend rushing anywhere close to shooting distance of an enemy.

[reef merlin]

If they are jumping out along the diagonal line you think it'd stand to reason they'd hit the blue zone then?

[queen tendon]

Yup, looks good to me

[queen tendon]

Adding onto this, deployment right now is probably the perfect time to use rush to get closer inside the map while we aren’t in immediate damage

Apologies if I’m retreading ground you’ve already talked about, trying to catch up on everything and also it’s late

[warm hazel]

Rest well when you do

[chilly bridge]

Very nice! Seems like you will be dropping of @haughty mauve and me

[astral nymph]

Okay caught back up. I'll check orders in a moment and draft mine up since I'll be driving more tomorrow

[rich olive]

Side note, we took back first place in messages.

[minor solar]

Alright, final order check please.

Callsign: Onyx
Unit: Infantry
Carrying: N/A
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Paradrop
Movement: loaded inside HAT P/F, drop and advance

Starting Coords: 2717 drop at 2919
Ending Coords: 3018
Facing: 3118

RP: *The HAT P/F shook during the flight from Elim City to the Hill Mines as Onyx-1 looked at the Tac-Screens he saw the dropzone inching closer and closer.

"This is it people", he said, "time to drop."

They got up and prepped to drop, Feet first into Hell.*

This good for our Tac-Coms?

I am so nervous

[queen tendon]

Order type would be advance

[minor solar]

Everything else is good then?

[queen tendon]

Looks good. Yup

[minor solar]

Alright then. Here goes nothing

[queen tendon]

Tac coms will always reach out if there’s an issue with your orders. We won’t just go “well this is wrong you get to do NOTHING”

[minor solar]

It was meant as the Impression

I know you're all nice

[queen tendon]

To an extent

Lmao

Okay you guys got anything else for me? It’s closing in on one and I gotta get to trying to sleep here soon

[minor solar]

First actual order. Phew, i am so nervous.

[reef merlin]

We should be good, thanks for the help mate.

[queen tendon]

No problem

[minor solar]

Nah get some sleep man

[queen tendon]

Feel free to ping me and I can check in the morning.

I know it’s a lot of rules, so working through them as a group always helps

[sand whale]

Callsign: Aurum
Unit: MBT
Carrying: N/A
Equipment: N/A

Order Type: Advance
Movement: Advance into the tactical map of Hill Mine from 2717 and advance to 2816. Making sure to aim cannon at 3117 in case of potential enemy movement. Fire if they approach forest.

Starting Coords: 2717
Ending Coords: 2816
Facing: 3117

RP: The tank crew of Aurum approach the hill mines as the green lights of the flares flicker through the sky. Sights ready and engines spewing smoke they advance with MBT Drinker ever vigilant for possible attacks.

I’m sending this in now.

[minor solar]

👍

[sand whale]

@rigid jacinth when are you thinking of putting in your orders?

[warm hazel]

Awh hecky I should put my order in bow

Now. Got an interview tomorrow

[sand whale]

Good luck!

[reef merlin]

Now here's hoping there isn't any AA.

[minor solar]

Good luck Lads

[astral nymph]

Alright post in. Off to bed.

[snow python]

would you be able to drop me off at 2818?

also. I might not be able to post till after deadline tomorrow

wont be getting off work till an our after cutoff.

[vestal mountain]

@frank grotto , any updates to where the IFV's are heading to?

[warm hazel]

Unit Call sign: Driver
Unit Type: Logi truck
Carrying: 10/10 Small Supply.
Tow: Deleter
Equipment: A dashboard full of food

Order Type: Advance
Starting Cords :2717
Ending Cords :2816
Action: Unhitch Deleter from logitruck facing 3137

Still waiting to hear back from deleter

[honest quail]

Thanks for the help.

[warm hazel]

But figured this would be a good place to drop them

Gonna be hella busy tomorrow so typed it up now

[honest quail]

remember guys dont jinx it

and everything will be fine

[warm hazel]

I mean honestly

what could possibly go wrong :)

[velvet scarab]

itll be fiiiiine

[lyric forge]

Hey guys 🙂 Sorry for the intrusion, I come from Fluffles. Since you guys are coming to Hill Mine this, turn we should probably coordinate our attack. Are you in range to attack anything this turn?

Of note, if your fighters want to reload after attacking this turn, they could land on the Triple this turn, I will be in atmo with two hangar slots free for one turn

[honest quail]

Well we'll be landing in the west side and we'll have forces going into the southwest corner.

We plan on pushing directly into the city

This is just a defense build plan but it gives a general idea

Is Fluffles going to be playing defense @lyric forge ?

Our goal is to sweep the city, save the otters, and hopefully take it within a few turns.

From there we can push on / fortify Hill Mine.

[snow python]

can the arty players make the assumption that all unknown targets without the green flares are to be treated hostile?

[silent glade]

Nope, but you can put in an order to bombard an area, if it isnt identified by the time your turn comes up for shack he wont let you fire

[honest quail]

I think most of the targets up for artying will be ID'd due to our frontliners going up to see / shoot at them

Should be okay

[snow python]

copy, im going to drop my post to bombard 3137. im also assuming that IRON can drop me off at grid 2818 since he said that he was heading south.

[lyric forge]

I'll send you the plan once I'm back to computer. In a couple hours. But in summary we plan to attack the bots as much as possible. We'll scan the bots and send our fighters and bombers focusing on the ones attacking the buildings. And our ships are also joining in

The mechs and light vehicles are scouting

[honest quail]

Do you have enough troops on the ground to do that

oh okay

I don't know your composition that well

so im assuming mostly aerospace stuff

[lyric forge]

Here's very preliminary one. Circles are scan, red line is aerospace path, red cross is Triple S dropping to low orbit

We're mostly air yeah. Just a few light vehicles and mechs for scouting

[honest quail]

Okay.

[lyric forge]

So we need y'all to actually do the extraction, but we can provide good firepower this turn already

[silent glade]

3137 is off map do you mean 3117?

[honest quail]

extraction of the otters you mean?

[lyric forge]

Yup

[honest quail]

yeah we'll try and push that westernmost building with green smoke on the first turn of deployment

[snow python]

yes. im tired

[honest quail]

hopefully by next turn we arent bogged down in too many firefights (I dont think we will be) but we should be able to get to the other green smokes

[snow python]

i dont know why i thought that was a 3

where are we start btw?

[silent glade]

We are starting on the lower left side, we havent been given a specific set of entry tiles

[honest quail]

central west, southwest

that area is where you can deploy

[silent glade]

Id say map edge from 2720 to 2717

[snow python]

alright. i'll get my post in now. if I need to change anything for any reason. it'll have to happen after deadline though.

[warm hazel]

So far it seems like we have plans to drop units south and likely pincer with y'all the units down there. Aside from that we are digging in the west and raining hell on them

[warm hazel]

Unlikely going to be able to set arty down in 2917 unless I or other Logi trucks rush order. Might not be worth it as it will expose them to quite a bit of fire depending on the range of their units. Best I can do on normal speed is 2816

[snow python]

@civic forge if anything needs changing. tell me. Hopefully I can get to my phone at lunch tomorrow

[chilly bridge]

Wondeful. Now we need to get Foxbat into it and we should be able to deploy. Since Foxbat has the rappeling gear, he doesn't need to land. And I can just jump out

[snow python]

before I go to bed. I want to ask something so I can understand a few thing. since ELIM is cleared of hostiles. we get to go straight to the Strategic map to move to the hill mine and since we're speed 2. and hill mine is one one Strat movement away. we are still able to transition into the TacMap and do our movements and orders? am I understanding how this is working correctly?

[honest quail]

wherever your arty wants to be set down / wherever you are okay eith going is fine

[silent glade]

So we get to use 1 movement to move from Elim to Hill Mine,
If you have movement of 2
That leaves you with 1 more tile to move on the Hill Mine map

[warm hazel]

Yee haven't heard back so gonna submit now and change it later if they hit me up tomorrow

[proper plank]

12 hour shifts and it isn't easy to examine maps and follow the planning on my phone.

But I was thinking that spot between the two rocks and the building at the top of 2918 looks like a nice arty hole. Plus 2918 allows the big structure to the south to be in targeting range. It's out of range of 2917.

[odd valley]

How does turn order happen?

Like, I'm a medic, so I can only heal somebody who's injured. Can I put in an order like, "Heal nearest unit if they get damaged this round"?

Or could I only heal them from the start of the next round?

Actually, on that same line, can an engineer build a sandbag wall and have an infantry unit upgrade it that same round?

[silent glade]

Turn orders are simultaneous, so your healing happens around the same time as all the damage every round. I did get confirmation a while back (so could be outdated) that if a unit your healing gets brought to 0, your healing applies still and keeps them up.
which would imply that your healing happens just after damage, which makes sense.
It does say 'Target' wounded unit, so you might have to pick one to focus on rather than 'do the closest one'

[warm hazel]

Totally understandable! Nothin' against ya. I can get you to that tile but won't have the speed to unhitch you myself without a rush order

[odd valley]

Also, last question, do I need to be in the same hex as a unit to heal them?

Or an adjacent hex?

I'm guessing the former since medics have no Range attribute

[silent glade]

You would have to be very close to them, within about .5 hex distance around you,
You arent locked to the grid

[odd valley]

Ooh, does that mean I could use 0.5 movement to just move half a grid tile?

[silent glade]

Indeed you can

[warm hazel]

Edited my order for ya deleter. I should now place ya at the top of 2198

You will need to spend speed to unhitch yourself

I believe that shouldn't effect your ability to shoot

[lyric forge]

Do you already know what your fighters are doing?

[chilly bridge]

I don't think we have talked about them yet

[queen tendon]

This is the map attached to their orders

[lyric forge]

Ha

Hmm, could you convince them to coordinate a strike on the hostiles in 3216 with Fluffles fighters

Here's the plan from our side for now. That doesn't include ground Troup movements

[queen tendon]

@wintry swan @indigo willow what are your thoughts?

[vale geode]

Btw if anyone asks why I’m double timing into forest I’m hinging my bets that the ruins are either filled with melee units… or they won’t roll high.

[civic folio]

@queen tendon so orders are due today, but what do we put since we dont even know what he we have landed in?

[queen tendon]

What do you mean by “don’t know what we have landed in”?

[queen tendon]

Oh, with your order. I just noticed some errors. Technically your order type is “rush” but that’s not as big a deal. Your starting cords look good but your ending cords and facing cords aren’t correct. I’m assuming it’s supposed to be 3119 & 3219 respectively. But you have it as 1319 and 1329

[soft bloom]

@chilly bridge 3117 is a little close for me without any other support. I'd be willing to take you to within a grid of it perhaps, and you'd have to walk. Unless we're going with a whole party. I don't want to get knocked out on planetfall 😛

[wintry swan]

We don't know what those are. We don't want to fly into potential flak coverage or waste precious ammo on ground targets

[soft bloom]

What grid are we coming in on btw?

[civic folio]

Oh, yesterday/ laat night it was said that we know vaguely we are coming in in the southwest of the map, has that been updated?

[chilly bridge]

That works for me. We do have 1 Speed each and since you will have to hover to let Angi disembark, it's probably better that way. @haughty mauve

[queen tendon]

@lyric forge

[lyric forge]

Noted

[soft bloom]

Do we have any other Inf dropping from VTOLs?

[lyric forge]

Thank you

[soft bloom]

I'm a bit OOTL

[lyric forge]

Although, how would you guys reload your fighters either way

[queen tendon]

Southwest side. It’s not a precise location of “you have to enter exactly here”. Shack told us to go off of where it looks like the strategic map line comes in. So I’m just saying the range of 2717-2719.

[lyric forge]

Also, if there's any flak in The area, our guys will already have tanked it, so you shouldn't worry about that

[soft bloom]

I just read the midrounds. Friendlies are green smoke on buildings. Got it

[queen tendon]

We split into two BGs so that we can resupply ourselves + our fighters by having the smaller logi group leave the hill mine and go to the airfield

[soft bloom]

Do you get any advantage for being on buildings?

[haughty mauve]

@chilly bridge @soft bloom I am ok with that. Don't want you to swatted of the sky. So to clarify we are getting dropped off at 3117 this turn

[lyric forge]

Ho I see. So it's one fighting group and one logi group?

[soft bloom]

I'm trying to figure out where I'll drop you

[lyric forge]

Smart

[queen tendon]

I’m going to 2917 and dropping my engineer off there

[soft bloom]

But I'm aiming in that direction

[lyric forge]

Well in any case, your fighters have a landing spot this turn on the triple

If they want to actually expend their ammo

We can reload them

[soft bloom]

Do we know the range of AA?

[queen tendon]

We don’t know if they have any tbh

Not saying they don’t, just saying we haven’t encountered it to really say

[lyric forge]

Yup

But our fighters/bombers are already taking the risk

We ain't taking the risk of more civies dying for a hypothetical

Although I understand the want for precautions

[queen tendon]

How long are you staying? Because they can’t land and take off in the same turn. So it would have to be fire this turn, land next turn, take off the turn after

[lyric forge]

They can fire and land in the same turn

[queen tendon]

They can’t make it to you this turn

[lyric forge]

We're leaving as soon as the situation is in your hands proper. Hopefully next turn

[lyric forge]

I'm not on the map yet, so I can drop in a place where they would be in range

[soft bloom]

My concern is this

[lyric forge]

It's also our concern x)

Seems like a perfect spot for aa

[queen tendon]

Well it’ll be up to the fighters themselves, but knowing they can rearm would help I assume. What do you think @wintry swan?

They’re offering you a resupply (also we can specify I want to fire on only air targets I’m pretty sure)

[queen tendon]

Very fair, I pointed that out as well yesterday. But we’ve got hits now, I’m sure we’ll be fine

[lyric forge]

I really don't think there's any air targets on this map. They seem mostly ship bound

[queen tendon]

That’s probably true. He was just worried about wasting ammo on ground targets before you offered a resupply

[soft bloom]

We can infer these are either vehicles, emplacements, are large groups of infantry based on previous midrounds and sensor pings.

[lyric forge]

Perfectly understandable

[soft bloom]

I'm leaning towards enemy, as the friendlies have already marked their own locations

[wintry swan]

It's still too risky to walk in blind imo

[soft bloom]

My thought process is this: If I can squeeeeeze into 3116 on the roof, I can drop both my PAI, and potentially rescue the civs on my next round outta there. I can take fire from one squad ez. But if we're looking at 2 AA Just outside of 2 distance I'm kinda cooked

Don't want another airfield incident

nahmean

[queen tendon]

I’d be in range to help assist as well

Idk how many civvies there are

[soft bloom]

We've got 3 green smokes

[chilly bridge]

My goal is to create a connection to the civs in the green smoke close by 3117 and potentially divert the enemies attention

[soft bloom]

They're on a rooftop

[queen tendon]

We could possibly clear the enemies at 3117 (or at least distract them) while the civvies get to our defensive line at 2917

Then have VTOLs go for the ones further in

[soft bloom]

I am of agreeance

[queen tendon]

I might be dumb a little bit

[proper plank]

I think unhitching is something we do anyway. Hitch and unhitch is counted as part of our deploy action.

[chilly bridge]

Same xD

[queen tendon]

I might move up to 3017, so I can jet over to 3417 next turn, land to pick up those civvies, then take off

[soft bloom]

Oh my

[chilly bridge]

But yeah, that's the plan then. Take the heat of the civvies so that you guys can pick them up

[soft bloom]

Would you guys accept a 3017 drop?

[queen tendon]

I could move even closer, go to 3116

[soft bloom]

There's strength in numbers, and that makes me more comfy

[chilly bridge]

I don't have a map rn, how far away is it?

[soft bloom]

3116 >_>

[soft bloom]

one tile over 😛

[chilly bridge]

That works for me then

[soft bloom]

Beat me to it

[chilly bridge]

Wait, there's trees... xD

Can I jump into the trees?

[soft bloom]

You be aight

[lyric forge]

Don't forget that our fighters will take an AA fire that might come, so you guys should be safe

[wintry swan]

How do you figure that?

[queen tendon]

I’m not saying that it’s the same, but our AA all has a range of two. So 3117 should be safe

If the stuff on the mountains is AA

[soft bloom]

That's a lot of ❓ within 1 distance of 3117 though

[lyric forge]

We'll be there before you, and all four our fighters and two bombers are flying into this question mark potential range

[queen tendon]

Yeah, there’s also two mechs there already

[queen tendon]

I refer you to my previous statement

I might be dumb a little bit

[soft agate]

Hmmm

Is 3520 a good spot for me to arty up and deploy?

[soft bloom]

I did Saving PVT Warli with you, but I had a few rounds to gain some unearned confidence. Not turn 1

[soft agate]

It seems decent...

[lyric forge]

Actually turn order seems done based on which taccoms sent maps first, so you might play first

[queen tendon]

It’s turn 6, I’ve got that confidence already

[soft bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-and-here-we-go-here-it-goes-gif-15244908

[queen tendon]

We’re coming in from the west side 2717-2719

[soft bloom]

Damnit

I'll go 3117 if you do

But I'd feel more safer with 3017

And then I'll pick up the friendlies at 3116

Final offer

[soft agate]

Oh

Mb

Hmm..

[lyric forge]

Also, we're sending our fighters in pairs to increase the amount of hits they can take if that helps

[soft agate]

What are the black zones on the map? Non-passable terrain?

[queen tendon]

3017 vs 3116/3117/3118 is the difference between getting a tile away from the pickup spot and hovering in place

[queen tendon]

Correct

[soft agate]

Hmmm

[soft bloom]

You right

[soft agate]

2919 coild be a good arty spot

[soft bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-im-in-yes-sure-okay-gif-6062774407970869564

My actual reaction

Is this ish on TTS? I wanna make a neat map

[queen tendon]

Here’s one of the arty orders that’s in

We have a trench line being made in 2817

[soft agate]

Ah i see

Hmmm

Okay hoq best could i use my spider mines

(The anty infantry minefield upgrade)

We have 2918, 2816 as arty spots currently

I saw those

Mby 2917

Set up at those rocks

Minefield in front of me

[civic folio]

Ok, so landing at 2717, and then moving straight to center, and tanks only get speed 1, meaning that I can only move 1 hex atm, right?

[queen tendon]

2917 is about to be a fortress, a trench there and mines? Hell yes

[queen tendon]

Correct

[soft agate]

Okay perfect

[civic folio]

Do we have any forces moving around 2818 atm?

[soft agate]

@velvet scarab we headin to 2917, drop me off at those top rocks

[chilly bridge]

Yeah, but what I mean is if I' able to do that without hurting my unit by using the Jump Pack. I can't remember the rule on damage for paradroping in an urbanized area or forest.

[queen tendon]

Keeping in mind I don’t know everything. What I do know is that we have a group of people heading south through the mountain pass. We also have a HAT deploying infantry along the 2719-2918 line

[queen tendon]

1d4 damage normally let me check if the jump pack affects it

I don’t think the jump pack would negate the jumping into a forest damage

But that’s a weird use case that hasn’t been explored yet so I can’t be 100% confident

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/spirited-away-no-face-too-much-for-me-wave-sea-gif-14483122

Me right now

[queen tendon]

So much information?

[civic folio]

Yessss

[chilly bridge]

So it wouldn't be clever to jump into the forrest, but to use the rapelling rope

[queen tendon]

I mean we only have checks the roster 59 people

[soft bloom]

Can he jump from my VTOL at any point? Similar to airdrop

[queen tendon]

You could get out the hex before and walk into the forest lmao

[civic folio]

Its also like... im an MBT and apparently a very important asset and I dont want to do the wrong thing and go where I'm not needed lol

[soft bloom]

Or only when stationary

[queen tendon]

You’d have to say “I stop here to let them out, then continue moving”

[soft bloom]

But that's allowed?

Oh shit duh it's speed

I only stop for contact in an advance

[queen tendon]

Unless something has massively changed from the last campaign yeah it’s fine

[soft bloom]

i member i member

[chilly bridge]

Yes

I can leave any flying vehicle like a paradrop

[chilly bridge]

But, I don't want to be inside the forest in the first place. xD

[queen tendon]

@soft bloom I think I’m going to end my turn at 3118 and hope that big question mark isn’t AA

[soft bloom]

3017?

[wintry swan]

Does not seem worth the risk. There's no reason to rush in immediately

[soft bloom]

And I'll assist you guys goin north to the green smoke?>

[soft bloom]

Can we fly togedur to 3017

[civic folio]

Ok, I need someone to help give me direction, where will I be needed in terms of the front

[soft bloom]

What's your route of flight

[lyric forge]

It's your choice!

[queen tendon]

That way I can land, pick em up, take off, and get a tile away

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-just-woke-up-anime-just-got-up-tired-gif-1482161997647152750

[spice sparrow]

I just woke up, whats the plan so I can put in my order?

[sharp canopy]

I'll talk with @brazen helm, have any of the other engies said that they're going to place sandbags on 3017 facing 3117?

[astral nymph]

There is also a southern push which Templar is leading through the small gap at 2919 and jnto that forest.

And our fluffier friends jn the other side of the map are going to continue harassing north

[soft bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-sol-rambo-gif-17820721411169849702

[astral nymph]

HEY IMOORTANT. NOTE

[soft bloom]

@haughty mauve @chilly bridge How do you feel about dropping in 3017?

[astral nymph]

IS anyone actually bothering to check those two buildings

Someone should be...

[civic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/bitsy-legends-of-avantris-uprooted-gif-15010485401798597443

[civic folio]

I can.... with my barrel....

Kool-aid man style

[astral nymph]

[spice sparrow]

Also where on the map do we enter?

[astral nymph]

We are entering from the left edge so 2715 south to 2718 ish or so

[spice sparrow]

Aight, im gona ask my inf if he wants to breach a building

[astral nymph]

#1385617719466135714 message

IF another engineer was bored this turn. Please build a connecting like of sandbags from the blue building diagonally through 2918 to connect with that trench line.

This js a defense request not an order or anything

[chilly bridge]

That'd be amazing^^

[queen tendon]

I’ve been saying 2717-2719 because the strategic map shows the line on the bottom half of the west side

[spice sparrow]

Sooo... Do we actually know or are we just quessing?

[queen tendon]

Shack said to just go off where the map looks like it would spit us out

[vale geode]

Ah… it appears I do….

[queen tendon]

Just delete and resubmit. It’s no biggie

[vale geode]

Should be fixed now

[spice sparrow]

Ok, im dropping of EBBG so that he can clear the building in 2817

[soft bloom]

As soon as Teddy okays it, I'll submit my order

@queen tendon You've got your fancy paint.net. Do I have enough speed to go drop them in 3017 and take the long way round to 3116 and land?

We have 4 total right?

[soft agate]

Unit Callsign: Spudgun
Unit Type: Artillery
Carrying: 2 small supply
Equipment: Anti-infantry minefield

Order Type: Hold
Movement/Action Tracker: unhitch from Logi Truck Trucker @placeholder at grid 2917
Deploy
Primary Action: Bombardment grid 3117, Place down minefield facing 3017.

Starting Coords: 2718
Ending Coords: 2917
Facing: NE
RP: "Its time to get the spuddin goin. We gettin hitched to them rocks and gettin a bombardment goin."

This a good order?

just wanna double check it

[chilly bridge]

Works for me^^

[honest quail]

I don’t know, I’ll check in a bit and go through discord messages

[haughty mauve]

I am ok with it. Ready to cause some mayhem. I am hoping I can get a charge in and tie up a bot unit

[honest quail]

this is the hex me and nalla will have our trench in right? do you need us to move

[soft agate]

im unsure how trenches interact with artillery

im fine with being behind it, and the minefield makes it even more dangerous

[honest quail]

I think vics are fine with them dunno

[honest quail]

wait we’re getting a minefield?

I am so happy

[soft agate]

i have anti-inf minefield upgrade ye

[queen tendon]

“When deployed the crew sets up a small minefield 180 degrees around their position. Can damage 1 Infantry unit for D4 Damage when stepped on before depleting the field. Has Stealth Tag. Area must be clear of structures for field to be deployed. When moving the minefield is taken with the unit to be used again.”

[honest quail]

awesome

[queen tendon]

I think the trench might interfere with the minefield(?)

[honest quail]

oh

D:

[queen tendon]

Depends on the orientation

[soft agate]

oh...

dam...

(shit thats another structure)

[queen tendon]

I’ll look into it more. I just noticed that

[honest quail]

when it said structures I suppose it could mean player built stuff too

could ask shack whenever he’s online

or staff

[queen tendon]

I wonder how large the minefield is, surely it’s not the entire hex

So like if you were in the back of the hex and put it forward?

Or you could set it behind you

[civic forge]

works for me

[valid pecan]

Btw we are currently winning the meta game of most posts again. Atlas is the nearest competitor.

[civic folio]

@queen tendon do we have the map yet of orders in progress? I feel like that might help me better gage what im doing

[queen tendon]

Nope. I wanted to but my free time is very limited rn and most of it is helping people on here lmao

@snow python the coordinates on your order don’t make sense. Unhitching at 2821, but ending at 2818

[silent glade]

There was mention of long range rockets in the earliest midrounds so im expecting some LRM AA around somwhere

[silent glade]

Im working on the combat one rn so ill post it here when ive gotten going properly

[civic folio]

Im panicking lol. What is the strategy right now? I see some people cutting straight east going north of the structure, and then some people going south into the mountain range

[queen tendon]

We’ve got nearly 60 people so we have to spread out to some regard

[astral nymph]

There's two groups. Templar is leading a group south through the pass to the forest.

There's another group. Dunno how big.. thinking of going north over that top building. Qnd then a bu xh of us just gunning straight

[queen tendon]

I think the majority of us are going to head straight east, developing trenches and defenses as we move

[fervent sage]

Mind being dropped off with Grnoble squad? Looks like they are flanking around the mountains and the back up seems like it could be good

[civic folio]

I might run south then into the mountains and run escort on with that group down there, I see an IFV going that way. Is there an Engie going that way too?

[queen tendon]

Not that I’m aware of

[civic folio]

Hmmm. Might be unsafe for me down there then

Fuck it, we ball. I'll run east with the main force, I at least know there is an Engie going that way

[fervent sage]

I don’t believe VTOLs have the ability to pick up LVs right? I think I remember that being discussed but don’t think it was picked up

[queen tendon]

No, that was a Lussan thing. The Multipurpose VTOLs could

Instead LVs get to paradrop from HATs now

[fervent sage]

Yep that’s what I figured

Well let’s hope they don’t have AA

[warm hazel]

@restive root reminder buddy to look in here when ya get a chance

[vivid vessel]

So just checking to be sure, we can use rush coming onto the map in order to get a little bit of extra distance right?

[civic folio]

Are we officially starting in 2717 or 2718?

[queen tendon]

The range is 2717-2719

Most are 2717 though

Current 9/18 on DM and 17/41 on DF

Little under halfway there

Feel free to ping your battle buddies (within reason)

[modern fulcrum]

Alcon,

I am from TF Fluffle. Will be moving evasively in dangerously close on a hill at grid point 3420 to unknowns on the high ground to attempt to get better visual for you all.

Please dont rain hell on my hill.
🤣

#1385616771968536736 message

[silent glade]

so, fairly sure VTOLS cant use evasive?

[queen tendon]

Correct, but he’s an LV

[modern fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/white-scars-warhammer-40k-motorcycle-gif-14995751801483951271

Either A Swen is confused who I am or B talking about other things.

[silent glade]

oh im talking about a different order xD

[queen tendon]

You’re correct. VTOL don’t have evasive

[frank grotto]

Im sorry guys i had to move across thew country for work yesterday, where do you want us to go

[queen tendon]

Most of us are headed east, if you wanted to join in. Starting 2717 and ending 2816

[frank grotto]

that sounds great. So we spawn on the left side of the hill mine map?

[queen tendon]

Correct

[frank grotto]

Sorry! Moving quickly and im trying to catch back up

[honest quail]

I think some infantry will try to rush 3017 while an MBT may fire upon it if the infantry IDs the bots. You can try to move in after they do. I haven't seen any orders mentioning sandbags on 3017. Sorry it took me a bit, I was on a walk.

[queen tendon]

Since you’re here Gears, I figure I’ll let you know. I’m thinking I’ll probably delete and resubmit my order, no change to anything related to you. Just going to move a little bit further in

So if you see an extra ping, that’s why

[honest quail]

Copy that, you sure you want to move further in?

We don't know about AA capabilities, but ofc its up to you.

[cosmic canyon]

Good Afternoon. What did I miss?

[honest quail]

Not much, just planning n stuff

orders getting turned in

trenches being dug

[vestal mountain]

Will support you with extra firepower. Let me know where you want to go. (Preferably the trench line or near the north.)

[queen tendon]

That looks like 5 total hexes to me

[queen tendon]

I want to get closer so I can potentially jet across and pick up the civvies next turn.

AA is scary, but they either have it or they don’t

[frank grotto]

there is a trenchline?

is 2816 close enough?

[queen tendon]

@jovial crypt where you the one wanting to check out the building at 2817?

[silent glade]

I am noticing some orders that aren't giving a facing btw people plz remember that

[civic folio]

Does cardnal count or does it have to be grid?

[queen tendon]

Grid is preferred

That said we have over half our orders

[silent glade]

as axx says grid preffered, but cardinal is fine, or say, 'facing green smoke building' for example. Some instruction that is easy to understand

[civic folio]

I mainly ask because MBTs have range 2, so I have a bit of a wider field of fire than looking into 1 grid

[silent glade]

your facing doesnt have to match where you shoot, its about where you can be flanked from

[civic folio]

Ah ok

Updated mine, does that work?

[snow python]

…. How did I manage that?

[soft bloom]

Oh we're back to doing hexes and not straight lines?

[snow python]

Fixed

[silent glade]

you can fly wherever but the total length of that line is the hex distance

[queen tendon]

That’s what shack is pushing us towards I believe

Hexes instead of straight lines

[soft bloom]

Hmm

[silent glade]

i feel we need to check whether vehicles can actually fit through this mountain pass in the south xD
its getting very squishy down there

[vale geode]

So… how many people are moving south now? I’m a little concerned thing was meant to be small lol

@royal minnow btw since my order is posted you can do yours have fun

[sharp canopy]

I might go for a trench at 3018 facing 3118 because I don't see any orders of people going to 3017

[warm hazel]

My buddy @restive root is playing an Engi and will likely need help figuring out what to do and how to do it

[royal minnow]

[frank grotto]

can we get the order template message pinned in the orders channel?

[royal minnow]

Also, what's the list of "Order Types" we write down?

[royal minnow]

Danke

Can I do an Advance/Evasive?

[queen tendon]

You can only advance

Evasive is limited to LVs and Light mechs iirc. Maybe some upgrades as well(?)

[royal minnow]

Oh, ok

[lavish ledge]

@silent glade does the emoji on my order mean something is wrong with it?

[queen tendon]

Fighters also have it

[queen tendon]

Correct, you have your order type as evasive

[silent glade]

indeed, as axx said, vtols cannot go evasive

[lavish ledge]

Gotcha

Will repost, my b

[queen tendon]

Just to recap what is happening. We are moving to an active combat zone this turn.

So, if your unit has more than 1 speed or is being carried by another unit, you may put an actual order in. If you are being carried in, you can assume you have your full speed. If you are moving yourself, you have your max speed minus one.

We will be appearing on the hexes 2717-2719 (west side) of the hill mine map: #1382040428945211462 message

Orders are due at 6pm EST tonight aka <t:1752098427:f>

[silent glade]

im begining to think i should have used a different text colour xD white does not show up so well

[queen tendon]

Check the replied message

@dim vortex @restive root @velvet scarab @cosmic canyon @lean notch

[brazen helm]

would this allow me to engage some of the hostiles in 3117? im looking to assist oilsins after my move order

[queen tendon]

You’d be in range to attack them yes

[queen tendon]

Check the replied message

@tired cairn @dreamy glade @royal minnow @haughty mauve @dry wraith

[lean notch]

Where are we on the map? I saw Shack posted the BG had landed

[queen tendon]

We are going to be strategically moving to the hill mine map. We’ll be appearing on the west side

I’ll edit my message

[queen tendon]

Check the replied message

@vestal mountain @candid nest @cedar coral @fallen yarrow @wise oasis

[lean notch]

VTOLs can land on roofs right?

[queen tendon]

Check the replied message

@sharp canopy @fading dune @silent glade @soft agate @dusk prairie

[lean notch]

@fallen yarrow do you want to try and get help to the civvies?

[queen tendon]

They need rappelling ropes to allow infantry to go on roofs

[queen tendon]

I believe that we are trying to get the civvies in 3116 to our defensive line at 2917 this turn. If that helps you plan at all

[queen tendon]

Check the replied message

@silver widget @proper plank @terse merlin @polar comet

Ope. Sorry for the ping Tigris. I didn’t check the orders that had come in while I was going down the list

11/18 and 26/41 with 5 more hours to go. Better than last time

[honest quail]

only 26 have put orders in?

out of 41 BG4 I assume

[queen tendon]

Correct

[honest quail]

thats not good

I mean

its not bad

but for our first combat turn I'd hoped for more

maybe next time there should be a mass ping at the start of the turn

[queen tendon]

Still got 5 hours. Plus I just sent the pings out

I trust

[honest quail]

I trust too.

[warm hazel]

Bahah I saw you pinged him. Texted his ass myself. Then right under saw that he put in an order

The legendary double fumble

[queen tendon]

That’s awesome

[honest quail]

@sharp canopy you said in the order text you place sandbags on 3017 but in the image your sandbags are on the line at 3016/3117

was this a mistake

[queen tendon]

Like I’m sorry to do the extra pinging. But it is funny

[warm hazel]

Ahah yep, alright I gotta pester my other online buddies into looking

Tho time zones and all that

(mainly trying to stay distracted from a big interview in a few hours)

[terse merlin]

@opaque aspen I built my orders to give movement priority to where you want to end up. So feel free to be specific. 😉

[sharp canopy]

thank you for catching that, I believe I have fixed it now

[warm hazel]

Bahah that is a good way to put it @terse merlin good work

[royal minnow]

It takes a Speed movement to unload and take off again, doesn't it?

[vestal mountain]

That will do if our goal is to clear the forest tile at 3016, then advance to hold that forest next turn.

[soft agate]

Yeah im being hauled, can a logi make it to 2917?

[fallen yarrow]

sure, where exactly would that be, so I can write a disembark order?

[tired cairn]

Do these civvies or anyone else need supplies, and can a HAT airdrop supplies

I have managed to be away from my PC which has my planning (and the rules) on it for the second time, hopefully should be back before orders are due

[lean notch]

Depends if you feel gutsy? We can try the ones at 3116 but you'd have to walk to them. Might be better to land the medics somewhere safe behind 2917 instead.

[queen tendon]

Yeah they can, you’ll need to coordinate orders with them though. There order is in, they ended at 2917

[soft agate]

just psoted

think its correct?

if not do say

[queen tendon]

Congrats and good luck man

[warm hazel]

Appreciate it, if I land it tho I am gone for 3 months

[soft agate]

Unless the minefield interferes with the trench being made.

[warm hazel]

Will need to do my best for orders if that is the case

[queen tendon]

@sharp canopy have to ask you to resubmit your orders. We aren’t allowed to accept edited ordered. Also your order type should be advance

[silent glade]

so where exactly are you putting the minefield? and how big is it? xD

[soft agate]

180 degrees

other than that... no clue

tryna figure out dimensions rn

When deployed the crew sets up a small minefield 180 degrees around their position. Can damage 1 Infantry unit for D4 Damage when stepped on before depleting the field. Has Stealth Tag. Area must be clear of structures for field to be deployed. When moving the minefield is taken with the unit to be used again.

[queen tendon]

I believe you can dictate the 180 degrees

[soft agate]

Idk how close to me it is, how far, how large

yeah i sent the direction they are facing

[queen tendon]

You did, I’m just not reading well rn lmao

[soft agate]

And specified in front of trench if that matters since i heard theres one being made there

In case i cant do that, cause structure, ignore the mines then

[silent glade]

180 degrees, is not a 2d size XD

[soft agate]

yeah

no clue how far it extends

[silent glade]

i might have to ask the shack

[soft agate]

yeah probs

smart

[silent glade]

i do suspect it wouldn't work with the trench line, especially as it is 'on their position' i dont think you can choose to put it infront of something else, but it will be good to know just how it works for the future

[soft agate]

Yeah

for now ill keep it there, i just want for future reference.

ill edit orders once i know whats goin on

[chilly bridge]

PAIs on the move. Lets give them hell @haughty mauve

[warm hazel]

Show these bots what a real set of power armor can do

[queen tendon]

@cosmic canyon only infantry can rush. You have 2 speed to play with this turn. You can start at 2717 if you’d like to get closer

[warm hazel]

Oh? I thought all ground units could rush

[cosmic canyon]

OK. On it.

[queen tendon]

Wait wait

I’m wrong

[queen tendon]

“Ground units move at two times the distance per speed point but take twice as much damage (Hits or FS) if attacked and can’t attack for the round. Depending on enemy type, units under rush might become the primary target. The Bugs do like fast food after all.“

Apologies for that

[warm hazel]

Yep, for Logi trucks the danger is more so that you become more of a target

[astral nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-speed-gif-20195114

[queen tendon]

You did it correctly but just for everyone else reading. You get 2 hexes of movement per speed you’re using to move.

For instance. Logi trucks have 3 speed, one of that is being used to strategic move. So it’s not (3x2) - 1 = 5, it is (3-1) x 2 = 4

Same goes for if you do any actions that require speed

[warm hazel]

Some rules can be a bit strange, still quite sad myself that arty can't do any damage

Ah. Will need to keep that in mind

[queen tendon]

Yup, it was a whole conversation in C3

Again apologies for the mixup, your order is good alias

And thank you for catching me on that

[warm hazel]

Also for hex movement the speed in the rules states it is 1 to 1

Actions cost .5 not movement

[queen tendon]

Actions cost .5 speed, which is used to move

[cosmic canyon]

It's all right, no harm done.

[queen tendon]

I’m confused on what you’re saying here

[warm hazel]

From what I am reading it covers a lot of actions in the action description but nothing about movement. Movement is only talked about in speed and it reads as 1 to 1

If we can move twice as fast on the map I will be happy to hear

Dammit wrong one

Do apologize for the screen caps but it does help me talk about stuff on phone without constantly swapping

[queen tendon]

You’re totally fine

Helps me not do the same constant swapping

I’m still confused though. If you have 3 speed and spend .5 on a standard action, you have 2.5 left you can use to move

[warm hazel]

Ah based on your message here you were saying per speed we can move two hexes. But under speed it says 'speed represents how far a unit can move where the distance could be.. number of hex grids out'

I don't see that as .5 per hex I see that as 1 per hex

[soft agate]

lmao i just realsied i sent the order with the placeholder ping

funny

im not editing it

or resending it

[queen tendon]

That’s correct but you can place yourself anywhere within a hex. So you can get halfway through a hex with the .5

So you could go through two whole hexes and halfway through the third

[warm hazel]

Ah you do you mean for the rush order? If so I get where the confusion started on my part.

For the x2

[queen tendon]

Correct

[warm hazel]

Was going off of the math here, didn't realize we were still talking about rush. Alright sweet then all good

[queen tendon]

This was strictly talking about how to do the movement math with the rush order type