#Battlegroup 2 - Venator: Comms
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I'm in the IFV do I put orders or naw
I think this turn we are still landing
I'm hoping for big pay to go straight to a gunship, if we get BP, I can get 1 more rec point.
Oh the pay is 5-4 rec points so you should be good
Evening pirate!
Even rubble
It’s 9am lol
welp its 5 PM here in australia XD
Damn auzies!
hehehe
Anyway
Memo that getting 6'd is a 16ish% chance. Definitely can (and has) happened, but not as likely as it feels ^^
(he says, having been 4'd as a Medic in one of the training exercises xD)
I had 3 player infantry insta die in my training campaign. One per turn. Not often but also often enough to warrant caution.
That is a good point
@sly crest as Dawn can travel at a 2 speed with the engine boost, would you like to be further back in the formation?
Also my logic for the orders this coming turn is that people will basically just need to say “in formation”
The transports would need to say what they are holding, and those in them the same
Any thoughts on that?
Other than bako, who is at the back, and mako who i'll probably shift furthur back, is there anyone who wants to be in a specific place? otherwise I will just randomly be assigning names
All good as long as we don't get one shoted 
I am just getting towed so it's up to logi not to plant me in a ditch 
Shift the bulldozers closer to the engineers
Relatable
Since there best uses there
there's no point
bulldozers add a build action not a REPAIR action
+they are literally next to them xD
New poll, operation mama
10
26
5
Backdoor
Freedom
@smoky junco you're Tac com secondary whatever
Please check over that everything is correct upgrade wise
Then I will post it in orders and do the big brain plan that means there's no confusion
Ugh he's not online
Anyone who is please
Looks all clear lad.
Ok just to run it by you Marl, my idea for simplifying orders and making sure everyone sees it, is for me to post the formation in our orders thread, explain what we are doing as a bg and ask people just 👍 the post if they are fine with their position, if not to ping me here to change it
Therefore we don't need to keep re posting it as people miss the post due to too much talking here
Does mean I'll need a logi truck to reload me pretty quickly if we go with that option
Seems alright
Mind you forgetting my small arms and repair parts
we don't have logos for that
xD
I though the blue text was equipment for a moment
Thought's on this
Nah, just what people are carrying
Don’t think this is allowed
I think we have to have people post individual moves
WAIT GOLEM HAS A BULLDOZER?!
Ask it in meta
If golem has a bulldozer, pull them back to the secondary line to aid with the engineers
Oh pirate is going crazy on the bulldozer again
I don't think Shack cares aslong as we have a formation
I'll ask but it seems super unnecessary to have every single person be pinged and repeatedly post the image to then post their own orders which all are "i'm in formation"
No I just feel like there better used in the rear
Since bull dozers are able to double a engineers actions
we all agreed we're going to ziyal, it's just the formation we are doing it in
No, they add a build action
which is not repairs
and having a few MBTs in reserve to plug any gaps in the line
Huh
Still bull dozers are better in the second line as a reserve force
Bulldozers add +1 build action to engis
Speed up the engis building?
For the build action*
I'll move them back if they ask for it]
I do have a feeling that bull dozers are going to be needed in the city assault to break baracades
And rubble
And such
I wonder if midrournds will be up later
Anyway I seriously doubt shack is going to say no you must have everyone post individual orders agreeing to be in formation
Having them on the second line which can then move forward if needed
i'll ask in TC chat
Yeah ask away
I’m on about myself here lol
it is not a battle plan
I’m a bull dozer lol
it is how we are entering the map
I know
Once we’re in after setting up
How do we aproach this
Do we engage as one or split up?
Depending on enemy force
Fuck it we ball?
Pov: Venator inf if encounter 3 titan class mechs setting ambush
You do realise we can deal with titans
Yes
Well
They don't. Feel fear and pain
On the other hand squishy humans do
Unlessssss
Indomitable human spirit kicks in
Ah
Nah^
We can make them feel pain
Gentlemen, COMENCE THE DDOS
i may not seem like it
But I have a (one mark of a) distinction in IT
THAT DAMN ONE MARK
I know how to break networks
Sam fry there circuits with 10 zerabytes of genshin impact fanfics
If you can get my mad pirates a access port to the network, i can cause MAYHEM
I can do worse
Ohk
With less
Nice
Trap em in a protocol feedback loop
Oof
Break connections between devices and hardware
Breaking the bots Network protocols
If you can kill the bots communication
You can slaughter them
Why not make them shoot each other and make them commit robocide when none is left
Because that would be almost imediately noticed
Ahhhh
And likely there IFF code is protected
But if you can infiltrate and piggy back off there wireless to the central command
And then use a Trojan virus to break the code for communication and backups
You can scrub the bots entire com system without so much as a sweat
you have been hacked by ARMCO
Just got to get a example of the bot code, modify it enough to do the Trojan but not enough that the system will notice it as foreign
No, by a mad pirate
Ahhh
Computer security is impressive but always has a back door
Just put a skull and crossbones ☠️ and have it scream YAARGGHHHHH
It’s all about protocol, code identifying foreign and correct code
That’s what a firewall is
It only allows code with the right “indentiry” to pass
You work with this or do you have a unhealthy obsession I'm genuinely curious
There’s usualy not much security base it
3-4th best in the IT class
Damn that's fucking rad
My range of knowledge is simply terrifying lol
I know nuclear and IT stuff to a terrifying degree lol
Also biology
And chemistry
AND TRAINS BABY!
Jesse we need to cook
WOOOOOOO
Hell on Mondays i am helping build a new steam loco
Lol
Time for venator national anthem
This one to be specific
One day I can be painting a steam locomotive, the next repairing 100 year old automotive components with my grandfather, and on the weekends doing 40K tournaments- wait I just described my current week
It’s my usual lol
FOR ROCK AND STONE
Should have seen the week where I did nearly 24 hours of solid warhammer over 4 days
Including a masive 33,000 point apocalypse game, 11vs11
Leagues of Votann player spotted
My brain cannot comprehend the amount of fuck yeah energy
There were five banebaldes, 3 primarchs, knights and more
Holy fucking shit
Two of the banebaldes were mine
Hid them in a corner and murdered stuff
Idd post photos but were getting off topic
Yeah, i locked down a main aproach with em
The enemy just kept funnelling in untill a great unclean one deep strikes in and got one, avenged by a leman russ tank shock
Kinda sad that they still only have 1 book about them selfs.
Wait, one of the tanks is also "scrap" 
I wont say no to beeing a tank aswell an artillery piece but I think someone else's callsign should be there xD
About that.
Since I'll be riding in a VTOL (thank you, Feather!), what do I need to say in my order form? 'Cause every time I ask I get a different answer
I may have duplicated you
You don’t
I have a plan
Im running it past shack rn but it hopefully means everyone needs to react to a message to agree with their place in formation and we don’t need any orders till we’re in ziyal
That would make things much simpler
But assuming you were, you just announce that you are onboard the VTOL unless you are dismounting that round, which you declare as your action I think
Exactly
Do the HATs and logo stuff start with full whatever we want to carry, or do we have to do some action first?
I can't decide if we're all gonna die pitiful or die gloriously with our charge xD
Nah, we will live
start full it would be a lot of work for splat for no real reason otherwise
for we have enough engineers to out heal the damahe
The clankers dont understand the concept of "fuck it, we ball."
Ok so basically I got Nuh uh’d by Dresden
So people do need to submit orders
We might aswell start now
oh shit we need to send orders for when?
Uhhh well today’s processing day, tomorrow would be orders day and then day after that we need to submit stuff
So basically by tomorrow
Okay, look alive everyone!
I'm guessing the orders expected from us are simply the stratmap movement?
Plus who's carrying who
Should be explained in the orders thread now
Regular order except your movement is “travelling in formation”
Gotcha
I’ll quickly do mine to demonstrate
oh boy
i will then copy paste that order and modify it for my own selfish use
its time for this
Not really
But sure xD
@smoky junco let me do my order furst
2SS in the VTOLs I assume aren't units I didn't know about but 2 Spare Slots, right? XD
2 small supply
Just did the math and we have 86 wow
were rich
Oh!
To access most of it we need a place for our HATs to land though which we currently don't have I believe?
I was about to post it myself xD
We do?
3x 25 + 5 + 3 x 2
🤝
I thought it was 6 per HAT slot
Ok people, i am trusting you with this
Maybe this is a typo
when you put your order in, fill this out aswell, DO NOT TOUCH THE PROCESSED BAR
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YcE4kzVd3jOjs7Mpu-NgFb-l_4XRrUBgEE11xFQzeV8/edit?usp=sharing
where is the document?
im not seeing it on the main google sheets
Alright someone pin this
Anyway i should be working right now so I'll fill in my order in a few hours when it's noon over here
this is how it SHOULD look once your done
Could we save this for when we’re actually on a tac map plesse
Please*
just getting it ready for when we are on the map
It’s already confusing enough as I’d imo
Yeah that’s fine
get the word out early
I just don’t want to have people go from no orders too orders and a new sheet etc
So for now, you don’t need to fill this in unless you want guys
Nah you dont need to
but when we go onto the map we will need it filled
will make our jobs so much easier
Yup
Rigjt start dropping orders people
Please follow the instructions at the top, I’ll be reminding people as they drop them
We have 30 hours to get everyones orders in
so just follow what you guys had put in the orders?
Yup
Make sure you are happy with where you are in the formation first
@smoky junco can you repost yours wiyh advance please
I forgot aswelll
Ah fuck
I forgot I need to edit the formation
Dreads and lamentations!
Rigjt no one post anymore orders
@smoky junco can you edit the image for me please
I’m busy rn
Anyone with a photo editing program really
Say yes and then I’ll say what I need please
im on MAH WAY
Ok can you get rid of the tank scrap
And whatever tank is the furthest down on the bottom Rigjt move it into their place
i kept it as a template untill i can figure out who it is
I meant on the map
We aint on a tac map yet right? So might as well just advance
You know what it’s fine just no more orders for now
Also you have 2 orders electro xD
i genuonely dont know how to edit it
It’s fine
thats the tanks... now the rest
I feel like this should be pinned or smth
3/3 for hits makes more sense
We’re not touching it yet dw
alr
Ok I’m tuning out for the next 2 hours
When I’m back I’ll fix the formation and we can start collecting orders
quick question, do I even take an action when being towed?
I don't think so, from your point of view it's the same thing as infantry being on a vehicle
just say your being towed
Your order will be vibing and enjoying the scenery of a bot ridden frozen hellscape 
ASKING FOR THIS TO BE PINGED
Once we enter a tac-map, when you fill out your order, please fill out this document for the relevant round, saves us TAC-COMs scrolling throug orders non stop lol
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YcE4kzVd3jOjs7Mpu-NgFb-l_4XRrUBgEE11xFQzeV8/edit?usp=sharing
cheers
did we ever decide on the operation name? maybe i missed it through all of the responses
Question for y'all's formation:
It says your HATs are carrying 5 x 6 SS. Shouldn't it be 5 x 5 SS?
5 Cargo Slots per HAT. 5 SS per Cargo Slot
Yeah it was a mistake
We haven't had the time to fix it on the image I think but we're aware
You need to have orders entered in the https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1385616956022849678
Having a TACCOM read that is your job.
Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure you're aware. I thought it was probably a typo
We’re doing BOTH
Once they do it in the order thread
They then put it in the doc
And then we TAC-COMs put the info from the doc and put it on a map
And then post it for our player intentions
And you’re going to confirm that they have their orders in the #1327290771048628278 channel?
Yeeeeep
Or are you just using the doc?
That’s what the order processed tab is for
We confirm it as processed after checking the thread DW
They've got it covered, Cobalt. Just redundancy and TAC-COM readability
The doc is a tool to speed up and make map making easier by having all the needed information more easily accessible instead of scrolling through a tonne of messages constantly, double checking specific ones, tripple checking, making sure you didn’t make mistakes and such
Also whilst RP posts are cool
They take up so much space
This doc compresses it all down to a single space
And makes it so much easier to access the needed information and makes it easier to archive if
Orders are still gonna be useful to log complex movement
that’s why notes are on the doc
Yeah I'm not arguing against the doc-
But like that’s the whole point of the orders channel.
RP posts are allowed in the orders channel as long as it’s part of an order.
Yeah fair
Oh I’m not agaisnt RP orders
The doc is just to make our lives easier
By streamlining the whole process
It also makes tracking supply and hits a lot more readable for units
Victorum is using an order sheet.
One TACCOM converts the orders in the channels (Which are needed) and the other takes the sheet and converts it to a TACCOM map
Yeah we’re doing that, but also having this for people to put the information they did in the channel into the doc for us to read it easily
If a player doesn’t submit an order in the https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1385616956022849678 They are considered MIA for the round. And their unit can’t do anything.
Yeah, this makes it easier to spot a MIA aswell
Because if all goes well
They wouldn’t have put a order in the doc if they didn’t do it in the channel first
And can be easily identified by this
Already got the MIA stuff ready to go for the selection boxes for orders and actions
Along with KIA
If they did put a order in a doc and not the channel, they would be MIA
Okay. Are you going to go through all of the orders in the Orders channel and check that they are correct.
Yes, yes we are
And thanks to the doc we only need to do it once
Instead of multiple times
Okay. Then only you (The TCOs) should be editing the sheet
Because it’s your record of who did what
If there are inconsistencies then we will solve them when they arise
If someone changes it. You are responsible
So to summarize, everything's working as normal but with the singular difference of asking individual players log their orders on the working document instead of asking the TCOs to do it?
Which takes some redundant work off the TCOs' shoulders
Yeah pretty much, makes mine, marls and XSwords job easier
Personally I don't really have a problem with that
We’ve got ANOTHER doc for the private log of tac com stuff DW
Stuff that can’t be tampered with by players
The orders channel remains useful as it's easier to write your order there first and then port it to the doc
Yep that’s the plan
And saves us having to log it all ourselves
Overall, makes BG2 a lot more efficient and should reduce errors
Also allows for a communal look at the overall strategic picture of a BG, something I wish I had in last campaign
Is an Artillery piece also "Advancing" when it is getting towed?
i think the action is being towed if remember correctly
If you’re not moving (you’re considered transported)
Then it’s hold.
Just specify who’s towing you
Cobalt it’s under control
We don’t need to be lectured on who can do what
I misunderstood what was happening
👍
It should be
The larger headache is the fact we need people to submit orders to confirm they are happy with their placement in the formation
Ghost1 actual confirming placement in formation will also confirm in order set
Do we have to wait to put orders or are we ok to just say "yeah formation is good"
It’s fine DW about it
You need to do orders
I’m sorting out the actual thing
So actual orders now for us to put in?
Yes just give me a moment
number crunching sounds intensify
Ok done
Ok that's good
Right @smoky junco copy and paste your order below the "turn 5" bit
Big rig is carrying both an arty and a medic?
Isn’t that 3 cargo slots?
how
I've just realised that
This is why I told people not to touch the carry capacity sheet
Enjoy the aneurysm you’re about to have
Unit Callsign: KETTLES
Unit Type: ENGINEER
Equipment: standard
Order Type: hold
Movement/Action Tracker: riding in DRAGON```
Like that?
Ffs
Yes sure
I'm going to kick off ffsssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Right @quasi star do you mind carrying a medic in your back slot instead and air dropping them>
Also doesn’t Dawn need to be carried for speed purposes?
Dawn is using engine boost magic shit I didn't ask
No wait it was my fault
I made it have 3 slots because all of them were 4 FS units aka 12 FS which it can carry
Ugh
@graceful oak are you ok with being paradropped in because otherwise we are stuck at 1 speed to get to ziyal
Yeah that should be fine 
thank you so much
Don't forget the parachute
I just need Stan to reply and we are finnnnee
Sounds good
should be good now
Aye aye 
put it in an order please 
no no it's full go ahead
There's no impact unless someone is unhappy with their spot basically
Also something to say, everyone needs to be on advance unless you are in storage
Aye
Can do
Thank you so much ❤️
Could you put it in your order when you get around to it
Hey sword what program did you use to put together that chart?
Yeah just dealing with life a bit here, should be able to post it in like 30 minutes to an hour
chart?
are we doing our orders now?
this one
no rush we're just getting them done a little early
yeppers
uh krita
In tc chat theres an asset pack
I just dragged and dropped them basically
ah cool
Please check you are happy with your spot in formation before submitting an order!!
@static galleon XDDD
I love how your RP reflects your actual opinions on operation BELD 🤣
Lol I didn't even do it on purpose
But thanks
@supple beacon so I’ve had a plan for the mapping
If we use canva, we can work collaboratively on it AND it is easy to use for mapping
It’s also FREE BABY!
Order submitted and also put into the doc 👍
We don’t need the doc just yet!
That’s for NEXT turn
but good on ye
Whoops ok
carrying WRDN though, That can stay
There's something that I don't understand, what are the HATs gonna do while we assault Ziyal?
Can they paradrop their supply or something or are they just gonna hang out with the VTOLs?
Logistics, supply and force movement
But can they land for that?
Basically they can drop their supplies to logi trucks
Alright cool I wasn't sure
So after initially dropping everyone off the HATs can give the logi trucks supplies to give out
So they're our precious airborne supply cargo
and that repeats
Basically yeah
Man, if we pull this off it's gonna be glorious
I hope they've redirected any ground based fighters towards the frontlines
I mean do we even know if the enemies can do that
Why not, they'll never be expecting us to show up at their front door
Assuming their airfield is at ziyal, they won't be worried about extending their fighters out to elm or to patrol the crossroads
I moreso meant do we know if the enemies actually abide by the strat map system?
If point C is their homebase and point A was assualted, do the enemies actually reinforce point A?
Ignoring the bots for a minute
Strictly meta speaking
Hmm
We do know the bot orbitals at least follow the stratmap system, and have been dropping ground troops from orbit
We've never actually asked that, it was just kinda assumed
So I'd assume they do also move ground troops through the strategic layer
I guess this just comes from an interal worry that at least so far Meta has been disgustingly easy
I don't think cap would settle for less when introducing this new layer of strategic play
Yeah I hear ya
Not that I want people to die
Even C3 where we had a terrible start in the north it went surprisingly smooth
I just enjoy a bit of challenge, a bit of intelligence from the enemy
I think a broader scale both in time and space is what this game was lacking
I said it a few months ago, i'd fucking love if the bots had a spec ops force that snuck around in orbit and killed my HAT backline
Says the HAT lol
I get you 100% though, I've been wishing for something like that too
Not a disaster but a challenge
Not just "well the bots were attacking the city and then you scared them off and kept pushing them back until we kicked them off the planet while our orbitals killed theirs easily"
Oh my brains just done the thing where I realise what i was thinking
It doesn't feel like a strategy game, at least not yet
I think since Cap is making this a "hold the line and don't die" mission, he's having the exact same purpose in mind lol
I really hope this is difficult basically
fingers crossed
I mean we can both agree that no matter what we sure as hell aren't making it easy on ourselves this time around lol
More like a co-op roleplay game with a dm who doesn't want to kill their players
xDDDDD
Yeah
Which sure, i kinda get. But I think if death were less punishing (cough cough not missing out on pay for some random reason, you already lose a unit??) difficult scenarios would be easier to come by
I think this time everyone gets paid 5 rec no matter what so long as we win, or did I misunderstand?
Nope
5 req, 4 if die
It’s a big nerf especially as you have to buy units back now
In all honestly I give half a shit about my guys on the plane in lore and irl
Sure it’s one extra req I can save up with for sniper squad. In game they’re some pirates who my spec ops squad were like “hey work for us or we take the HAT and give it to someone else” after Lussan
Yeah, that makes you lose 2 rec + all previous upgrades
Yep
Maybe cap doesn't want people with a vanilla unit to feel like there's no punishment for dying and do stupid stuff that jeopardizes the campaign for other players
I guess one would have to ask him
That’s still a poor reason for punishment
Plus it’s a GM’d game
I know I'm just wondering what his reasons are
It’s not like people can do stuff wjthout shack saying no
Fair
I'm with you that it would be worth seriously discussing removing the pay malus
I mean, if they want to do a haha funny and send their unit directly into the enemy formation I don't think Cap can do anything about that outside of think they're really stupid
Yeah true
completely unrelated note, i'm not a big military person so i was always wondering how a tank could one shot an inf squad in the open
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEAYNX_UCjw the airburst mode opened my mind
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just use the mini-Nuke from helldivers
Now you got me thinking, it's a bit sad that tanks can't switch ammo types but that would be a balancing nightmare
Nothing stopping from just having it be one's head canon that they do switch ammo types and all of them are equally efficient against the proper enemy types which is why they do a flat damage roll against every enemy type
FINAL operation name decision
8
13
1
BELD(blue eyes leeroy drop)
Exactly my thought
Fucks sake @smoky junco
Will issue my own order when I'm done with the current session
we only have 4 inf
that is about the only force we have for actually going into buildings
Aaah I see that is true
so if an ATGM unit or something was in a building that the tanks couldn't fight
Medics and engis can uh
watch and clap
too
the infantry would have to clear it
ATGM?
Anti Tank Guided Missile
Could we theoretically just blow up the building and be done with it
Ah
Well do we think AP counts against walls is the question there
+we have a SPG for those situations
I mean realistically no building should withstand the combined firepower of what, 17 tanks?
^ this
Well we can’t attack things anymore so that won’t happen
True
I mean I suppose we could ask for it in the Tac com notes
Like “xyz advances forward but fires their shots into the building”
That could 100% work
Couldn't hurt to try if we find ourselves in that situation
Yep
The good news is we reasonably shouldn’t have to worry what’s in buildings
I doubt any civvies are still alive sadly
We'll see
Maybe they're rounding them up in the outer buildings while they await transfer to the orbitals and/or processing
Gang where we at
He wants there to be risk to death.
The cost of dying is -1 req from payout and your unit and its upgrades are gone.
No need to rebuy that unit if you don’t want
But I figure most people will
Yep!
Though all everyone has to do is say they're moving in formation from celldar mines to ziyal city
Alright
@sage crane Is it too late to slot in behind the Super Heavy in the formation? If so ill do it next turn
Didn't pay attention today so that's on me.
Ah, poo
The hell is this font? XD
It is hard to read
..I know
It is a price we must pay for piracy
Also the font is called lobster
I find this Funny
You let me design the TAC-COM stuff you get pirate antics
That was Marl’s decision
Yes but it feels so overly punishing that shack doesn’t like upping the difficulty so people die
100% I’ll amend it momentarily
WE NEED STAKES LADS
I kinda want to fail a contract and see the chaos of a retreat
Not happening with a group on insane individuals with no money
Place bot parts here we'll melt them later
No
We will rebuild them into a pirate army
ENGINEERS OF VENATOR
I HAVE A MISSION FOR YOU
Shack is upping the difficulty here.
No that's for the one we shoot dead
RECOVER BROKEN BOT PARTS, FIX EM, GIVE EM PIRATE HATS AND GIVE ME CONTROL
THE GRAND PIRATE DROID ARMY
Can't forget cutlass and a flintlock pistol
I thought that was assumed
But yeah memes asside
We should have a crack at repairing and repurposing droids into my personal pirate army
I hope we actually can cap a factory
If the great all might shack allows it
Adeptus mechanicus mindset
I do collect them
Nice
I Have Like 8 armies
Nah, just a lot of disposable
Like my entire income is disposable
Since I do live with my mother, the housing market rn is BONKERS
there’s a housing shortage because so many entry homes are SO EXPENSIVE
And only those already in the market can afford them and they sell there old home for more than the new one!
Holy shit
It’s madness
No issue, busy myself, will post my order asap


Along with aid the engineers with stuff if needed
speaking off
I’ve had a idea
Should we establish a FOB?
We can't
I mean there’s a large supply back at the mine
We don't have an engi with the upgrade
Shovel could pick it up for us when they arrive
shovel can only build airfields
Ah
Anything else we could build?
Outside of fortifications
Not really
That's the mine
if we're taking significant losses to the point we need to back off we are just fucking off to the mine
Because tanks get 0 benefits from fortifying
True true
- that takes engis time up which could be used for repairs
Just trying to think of ways to improve our capabilities
Far too valuable
Indeed
Real
...
Hello so quick check up the mine by initial scans is empty and void of any activity right?
And what is our strategy going forward?
We're going to Ziyal!
Make sure to check you are happy with your place in the formation and drop an order!
Are we gonna form a fob at the mine because I would suppose a mine can be a good bunker or something
May I ask where I can see that
So spearhead coming up with us? (Gonna need my transport if we move to ziyal)
It’s like a blind date
WERE GOIN IN BLIND LADS
AND THE BOTS WANT THE DIVORCE
MONEY, BUT WERE NOT GONNA LET EM HAVE IT!
Hell yeah
I TAKE CUSTODY OF ZIYAL
Anyway mixa, you good with your spot?
The drop order is for ziyal right?
Yes
i already called dibs
My organs are mine you can't have them
@jade parcel how goddamn long is your rp 🤣
I was literally five seconds away from hitting enter, chill :V
and I did get up to do something else for a bit during that
I had a 13 hour shift earlier today just ate dinner and I think I am a bit tired because I can't really see my unit checking again real quick
Idk I’ve seen longer
Sorry, i just remembered seeing you typing 30 minutes ago is all
Was just poking fun xD
Beneath cc-03
you're on the bed of BigRig
just gotta ask
I transport nobody right now, yes?
Correct
Oh yeah goddamn that's some hawk eyes didn't even notice my unit there
And yeah I am fine with my placement
Ty for asking xsword

An rp one or just an order ?
actual order
check out other peoples for the movement stuff
basically just need to say in formation
Ok got one more day before the fifth turn orders close right?
@mellow briar not trying to pester, but i just need confirmation that this is fine
uh
one sec
Nah
48 hours actually
Don't stress I can wait
48 hours, 18 mins
Oh great that's lots of time to cover everything in the chat tho I gotta pull up a sheet of paper and start writing down what the others will do so I can see what to I need to do
Tho I won't drop an order today because it's kinda late for me and I am tired after that shift previously mentioned
You just need to say who you are and that you are in formation
no fancy stuff xD
Oh and that you're being carried by Big Rig
True we just getting dropped in
Didn't we have another two art units ? I thought we were 4 last time I checked our battlegrounps sheet
I was wondering why we logis weren't both towing+hauling an arty each
Regardless of force comp
We need a actual plan
How on earth are we going to take the city
and hold it
I assume factories will be the priority target
Electro
true
since we're a hammer, we're starting to see our problems as nails, which isnt ideal
Planning is everything
Plus the guys in the scanner station are getting us intel
Current objective is showing up and assessing the situation
Ah fair
yes but there's no point showing up expecting to drive down the middle if the factories are on our right
Just wait
I Think we should have the following
- get frontline Intel
- establish foothold
- do what damage we can to factories
- when allies show up, BREAK the enemy
Our plan to take the city iirc is "frick up their reinforcement lines so badly that other BGs are freed up to come and help"
patience is more important than planning on nothings
YEP
Pretty much yeah
I do Have a worry, that we manage to break the enemy lines before the others show up, meaning we would have a breakthrough but no way to exploit it
If theres something more valuable than bots
we shoot that
that is our plan
the specifics can wait
Something that happened during WW1
Then we hold and take the L
Where tanks broke through the German front but nobody followed up
Discipline is key
We don't have a follow up really xD
Our objective right now is not fully clearing ziyal yet
it's not a spearhead
Works for me 👍
we aren't going to go zooming in to ziyalk
yet you let me be TAC-COM
one of the most chaotic players in this campaign
our job is to kill shit as much as possible and be a pain in the ass to the bots
It's to assess and disrupt and then when the rest of our forces show up we can talk about a proper assault
CHAOS REIGNS
It's not rush in and get killed
Unless ziyal is comically undefended in which case
Lol
Lmao, even
Or we caught them off guard
Exactly that
Yep
Again for all we know there's fuck all there and they have their factories on the moon
Since I doubt the bots would expect us to flank 66% of armcos entire tank force to the city
So no planning till we get more intel
Catching a fortress off guard doesn't make it less of a fortress
then we piss on the moon
We can use our light makes as some kind of improper scours units their kinda fast and have some armour so they won't get butchered like the inf units of the storm when fighting against the toasters
It does when you bring a sledge hammer
We have enough firepower to break anything
Yep that's why they are up front lol
"Hey shitass"
"Huh"
Only issue we have is fitting enough tanks in a hex to fire all at once thinf
that's where range two comes in
I say again, we can’t fit enough in
We have that many tanks
Not all can focus fire on a single spot
it's basically a semi circle 2 hexes long from dawns face forward that we can have everyone shoot something
They very much can
What kind of scenario could possibly warrant firing all 17 tanks on ONE SPOT??
18 shells though
It’s about sending a message
And breaking something
We'll know soon enough if bots can fear won't we
The problem is that they ai is advanced and it didn't use in the capital heavy units just infantry because it knowed it could had overwhelmed the locals but that's bad for as because we don't got any other info for their capabilities which means it's kinda risky for the light mechs but idk I am not a strategist
Kinda
the light mechs are actually the most survivable unit in the game along with LVs
LMs can go evasive next turn but likely we won't be facing heavy resistance before we know what we're up against
They could start making tanks is what your saying
That's true
The benefit of surprise
Unfortunately for the bots we can fire faster than they can build em
alternatively: botCommand used infantry in Elim because there's doorknobs
I hate that this is going in the histoy books as Operation: BELD
We don't know that Maybe it's a fob maybe not we have to think of a lot of different possibilities
That's why we're waiting on intel
I've taken a good, comprehensive look at the formation.
Bloody. Christ. 🤣
It probably is, they may have turrets but what I meant was that most units won't be in range of us due to not expecting us to show up there
They'll spot us and move towards us but not before we've spotted them too
@sage crane what changed in formation
Cali moved back
Idd Like to propose a idea for the operation
don’t stop advacing
Hit them hard and don’t stop, don’t hold ground just continue to murder until we reach the factories and then punch a way out
Probably a good idea yeah
We don't know if they even have factories there
That may be the case or it may not because we engaged in ground combat it may very likely everything being on red alert or something but I hope we got the elemt of surprise
It can’t hurt to have ideas which can then be applied if applicable
for the 3rd time
If not, oh well
Just be patient
Save the idea for later
too many ideas and people get confused
Yeah we're just brainstorming xsword
I know i'm just saying things like this if i were trying to catch up makes it seem like we know there's factories
I thought those guys were at Elim. Shouldn't we be brainvenatoring?
Yeah if we can't penetrate the enemy defense's that are possible there with such an amount of armour and tanks theirs a slim chance of the other battlegroups to be able too
A little combined arms goes a long way if we cant break it on our own
Even if we can't breach their defenses, we can spawncamp them when they try to reinforce somewhere else
Yeah you got a point there
That's somewhat questionable depending where we gonna drop in ofcourse
Once we get a TF in orbit we should be good with a BG reinforcing us from behind or to our flank.
Spearhead are bringing up our rear alreadu
A TF in orbit does bring in air forces tho which is good
I was more speaking if we couldn't break it we hold for those reinforcements and TF
Yep
I'm wondering if we're gonna be seeing those AT-AT like walkers from helldivers are their main armor
Factory Striders?
I play quite a bit and still forget the names of those
Took a bit due to holiday but I posted my orders @sage crane
Also Happy 4th everyone!
RAHHHH
Tomato, toemato
Heavy resistance at Crossroads then
Sucks to be them
half orders are now in 
Oh that could work.
Morning lads, also thats great news!
Punchy-1 be like:
Only had to do a single formation correction so far
Hey Venator were you going for mines or second city?
Ziyal
We are bringing the Hammer of ARMCO down onto the city
Is victorum thinking of giving us orbital cover?
Would be greatly appreciated
Maybe. Not really.
No confirmation either way rn
Unsure as of right now. That new fleet has us questioning.
Just remember you are a threat to orbitals in low orbit
If they’re in high orbit they can’t do much
we might need a sortie of fighters if there's a lot of enemy air
Besides keep dropping boys
Oh i completely forgot about that
18 tank shells vs a battleship
WHO WINS?
Air can’t really hurt your tanks.
1d4 vs 3 armor is only a 25% chance to hit
But your gunship might go down.
And your HATs
The HATs are carrying like 86 supply, we'll like them not to die
Not much we can do to help you. We’re kinda wanted everywhere.
We’ll see what we run into
That's why i asked about the possibility of a sortie
Tbf, victorum is the only fleet we have that can withstand the strongest of the bot counterparts
Those are very expensive.
even if it's just 1 round to give us security to get SOME supplies on the ground next turn
And therefore why i asked about the amount of LS you lot have
13 left.
What's your guys engine speed?
we move at 2 on the strat map
A sortie is minimum 2.
1 to sortie 1 to reload.
26 Turns of reloadingh
We’re budgeting some for 2 speed.
Ah i see
Since that makes us a lot faster
Btw do we know how long until we can get reinforcements for ziyal?
it's not the end of the world, we can beg Atlas or Fluff
Spearhead is dropping in the mines behind us either this next turn or the one after
Most likely we have to hold out for a turn or two
They're sticking with the objective there so depends on how long that takes
then they are backing us up
From anywhere else? A while
What's spearhead's composition?
gotta get through a proper battle at crossroads, sounds like it's gonna have something big going on
Crossroads seem to be the frontlines
Alright then, we should have plenty of mechs and MBTs to retake ziyal then.
I think we've already got that covered xD
Yep!
Depends on what they have.
My guess is we're either gonna be able to do a lot of the heavy lifting ourselves or it becomes an attrition war till the main forces arrive
Good luck engis, we'll need it
I think spearhead will help but if memory serves they're majority infantry
Infantry can hold ground
either way it allows us to stop or delay enemy reinforcements hopefully.
What if we send the mine's LS up to Victorum (if they have any)
We can't
Damn
we need to stick around and do the objective at that point
- we're meant to be shipping it off or something
True, it can be Spearshaft's problem
100% will turn attritiony if we can't blitz them then
Our hats cant land, which is the issue
Worst case scenario we get absolutely cooked and we fuck off back to the mines
It really isn't that bad
They can still get supplies down
Elastic warfare: Tanks punch, if the punch doesn't break through, reel back behind the infantry line and let the enemy wear themselves out. Repeat until one side dies.
The mechs are probably running evasive the entire time
LMs:
We also have the magical ability to simply waltz through enemy lines unopposed
If needed, the full force of LMs can cripple targets before pulling out
Or do rear guard actions
Hold back the enemy long enough for the allies to retreat and then run like hell
And lest we forget aggressive reconnaissance
I just realized
Nothing landborne can actually reach us from Nerys Village
Nope
Morning
So if I understand correctly
There is a bot orbital force on the way towards the point where we'll cross towards ziyal
Maybe not but maybe it's just a coincidence
They could well know we're here, the question remains if they can reshuffle their forces in time to counter us
They are as we speak though that much we know of
We're either gonna face their forces at HH or worse, actually get attacked from both sides
We stay the course
Well submitted an order think I did it right
I accidentally cut out the Facing part of my order. It cannot be helped
orbitals do not wanna mess with us xD
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Why the fuck couldn't I find a gif of this scene
Can you even shoot at orbitals with MBTs
Only one way to find out
If they get close enough
Either that or we strap our tanks to transports and pull a ATTE Eva drop and fight on top of one
At least I can
Perfect
oh those things are gonna kick a wasp's nest if they enter atmo
but the wasps carry explosives instead of just stinging
Gonna run a Soviet Style Assault with our Bg's composition
hopefully we do it in a more competent way
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So for the order sheet if we are in formation just type in formation to make it easier for our TACCOMs?
Yeah
Rog i'll add that to the location tabs and done
FLEA
That assault (as in the entire theater) was way too easy. We about to see some shit 😅🫠
-Overwhelm them with tanks
-retreat if your gay
-fuck it we ball
Yep. The civvies said the bots were building something big in the Crossroads. There is probably some big and scary tanks and mechs there.
Ziyal has more and we're plundering ziyal