#Battlegroup 2 - Venator: Comms

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sage crane
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@little egret Sir did you read the 6FS part xD

little egret
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Yes

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isnt engineers 6fs?

sage crane
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Engis aren't 6FS

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Engis and medics are 4

little egret
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LOL 4

sage crane
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Yuppers

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just ctrl z 😭

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XDDDDDD

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Not that much

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There ya go

hidden oyster
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Who is willing to carry a WW2 M4A3 Sherman medium tank?

little egret
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You dont need a carry

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Your a vic

sage crane
little egret
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You good

hidden oyster
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Oh. That works too.

little egret
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Only people who need rides are the infantry

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we have no scouting of crossroads yet right?

sage crane
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And arty

spice nymph
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Jumping my engi self on a Logi truck to avoid wasting space

upper harbor
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How many units has ARMCO lost already now that i think about it

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pretty sure pathfinder is almost wiped out

west aspen
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Don't worry, lore-wise, T13C (the VTOL) will be recovered, refitted for 1 rec, and put back into service.

The crew, on the other hand... KIA.

vagrant frigate
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So the question is where exactly are we going to deploy?

west aspen
vagrant frigate
hybrid imp
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So I am guessing us tanks will be using those HATs?

upper harbor
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2 squads were wiped and the rest are don to 30-50% strength

tranquil saddle
west aspen
real kite
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so

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do we need to input orders this week or next?

tranquil saddle
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good question

sage crane
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We shouldn't be landing this turn by any current logic

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After next turn people will likely need to be dropping orders

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So be ready

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EVERYONE WE WILL BE TOUCHING DOWN AT ELIM MORE THAN LIKELY IN 2 ISH TURNS. START PLANNING NOW WHICH TRANSPORTS WILL BE CARRYING WHO WHEN WE HAVE TOUCHED DOWN PLANETSIDE FOR STRAT MAPS, CHECK OUT THE DOCS "CARRY" TAB

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So correct me if i'm wrong
Speed 3 ships will arrive and be able to land Elim next turn
Speed 2 will arrive above Elim
Speed 1 will be in Nav 1
This is unironically important, someone please ask Shack if/when he's in chat
Can someone ask this if Shack is ever in chat please

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It's very important but i must eep

west aspen
smoky junco
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Order deadline is wensday

modest shale
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OI OI WHO "BORROWED" OUR OTHER ENGINE!

muted quail
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The PV needed it to get through Alt space faster

modest shale
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hahaha

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well thats a sacrficie personally id be willing to make, big ship go brrr

odd cape
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Is the armor loading in HATs as well?

modest shale
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im fairly certain your right XSword, looking at the others movements, and as the current map by the gate is being cleared,

I think were two rounds away from orders

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HATs currently carrying supply, more room left for infantry on vtols etc were all disembarking when we dock at the space port I would assume

wintry coral
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Hold up, do we need the HATs to get off the NPC ships or can we just get delivered onto the ground?

muted quail
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You can get dropped on the ground at the starport

modest shale
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im fairly certain yeah we just get dropped off at the space port when it lands

wintry coral
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Awesome

modest shale
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the deploy tabs for the strat map for now

wintry coral
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Yep, gotcha. But SHBT is getting carried by the HVTOL?

modest shale
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indeed because of the speed, if everyone gets on when they need too we can all move speed 2

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infantry shbt etc

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on the strat map after we land, at least I think thats how that works

sage shale
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Roleplay
Alright grunts! Any of y'all squads ready to dent some hostile frying pans? Well hop on in! We got plenty of room for yah!

modest shale
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YEAHHHHH

wintry coral
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So, when do we need to put in orders? Next week?

tranquil saddle
modest shale
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WHHAAAAAAA

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that heh paragon of morality

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ah that hurts to say

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im fairly certain were 2 turns away from actual orders, but yeah need to confirm that

wintry coral
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Btw, can taskforces perform salvaging operations on the enemy ships?

supple beacon
wintry coral
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Maybe start map making next turn?

supple beacon
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Yeah

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just need to know where people are going to land at elm

modest shale
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its possible depending on what happens to the ship orbiting Elim or what the bots do Elim will be secure and we can mount up right away and move out, but yeah well see

static galleon
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Presumably we're all landing at the spaceport

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We being all the cargo borne BG's

supple beacon
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Alright lads, we need to decided on where we will be landing, if we have not already, any suggestions?

wintry coral
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Do we have a choice? I don't think we have the capacity to land anywhere else besides the spaceport at ELM.

supple beacon
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Might be wrong tho.

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btw who took the 3rd engine?

compact minnow
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No comment

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But also:

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^

wintry coral
compact minnow
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On a totally unrelated note, I finally found some bearings that match the ones that got fucked up by the sand in my mech's last operation

wintry coral
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Btw, from the midround info, the bot infantry has at least 1 armour but it can be flanked?

supple beacon
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anyway

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when we land at elm which part of the map should we go to first?

static galleon
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East, I suppose?

supple beacon
static galleon
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Does it matter from whence we exit the map or as long as we leave it we can take any path on the stratmap?

supple beacon
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I was thinking of maybe north-east

compact minnow
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I assume we'll wanna get out of the city as fast as possible

supple beacon
compact minnow
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Tanks no likey the city from my understanding of urban warfare

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That is my only concern

static galleon
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I mean in my book the issue is clear
If there are bots attacking, we go towards the ones blocking the exit to the city and we scrap them
If not, then we'll deploy directly on the strategic map and waltz on to the crossroads

compact minnow
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Thunder run?

west aspen
static galleon
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Didn't cap say we cleared- oh he said the spaceport not Elm city as a whole

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Woow it's taken me way too long to realize this lol

compact minnow
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Sounds like this calls for a Thunder Run

compact minnow
static galleon
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I was wondering too "that was it? Elm city is secure just like that?"

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Well then never mind what I said about deploying on the strategic level

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Northeast is as good a direction as any in my book

tranquil saddle
wintry coral
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Let's see next turn where everyone else goes. Then pick a direction from there.

compact minnow
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^

wintry coral
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I think we'll need another BG to follow us onto Crossroads. We're pretty anti-ground heavy.

tranquil saddle
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I say we bolt it to crossroads

wintry coral
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If we cannot get Air Superiority we will not be able to resupply.

hybrid imp
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Ah the Sherman F- wait no that is a 76W me thinks love both those tanks and the Pershing

west aspen
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@supple beacon @smoky junco ...

ORIGINATOR: SEAGULL AUTO REPORT, via T13C ACARS
DESTINATION: BG/TF TCOs, 2TCOs, Ambassadors, Adjutants. 

Seagull Actual is unavailable at this time. 
See attached file.```
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eZkZ6RMCbi97g9mk4H2sczWiPbWdDJ_fVm35iPV1PSU/edit?usp=sharing
wintry coral
hybrid imp
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Mhm, and if we are landing at the Starport hopefully our guys don't get pushed back.

strong shoal
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I see ty Chief
And for the name

upper harbor
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dont think we have AA mechs too

strong shoal
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Until what time we got to put our orders today?

west aspen
hidden oyster
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Just for an outside perspective, would any of you like to read my full unit roster and casualty list?

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Do be warned, it is the entire roster of the 7th Therine Militia. It’s… a lot.

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@west aspen Sorry, is that an ā€œI’m interestedā€ look or ā€œyou’re going insaneā€ look? Because honestly, I am losing my sanity whenever I update the list mid campaign to keep up with losses.

little egret
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Wait we have people who are doing the milita and special forces roles?

hidden oyster
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Wha?

hidden oyster
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I do apologize for the sheer number of names.

hidden oyster
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Sure!

little egret
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TCO/Tacom if the engineers try to repair the damage can we arrive faster?

compact minnow
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Making the RP segments on Order sheets is fun

median sail
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That would be me and I really hope I get to the ground, getting intercepted would be really anticlimactic

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Dawn needed a new after burner!! 🤣

tranquil saddle
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Hey guys

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Who's free to take me on the frontlines

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Pls

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I hate walking

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šŸ™

wintry coral
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Just put yourself into an IFV then ping that person so they know. Also hopefully they are still playing

sage crane
wary sundial
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@jade parcel Hey chap, I put myself down as your trailer

quasi scarab
sage crane
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We are landing with the ship first

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So you will 100% see some combat before any risk of being shot down

manic spade
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Are we thinking of standing and joining the fight until the situation at the landing site is resolved, or are we blitzing through to move towards another objective right away?

sage crane
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The fight might be over when we arrive

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It's all very up in the air

tranquil saddle
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@edgy pecan hey man sorry for ping but I putted myself on your IFV is that cool or nah?

supple beacon
sage crane
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Definitely not this coming turn

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Maybe 3 depending on how far away we drop in/ whether the orbital above is killed etc etc

smoky junco
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That, and storm

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No idea if they will survive in any major capacity

supple beacon
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Alright then, i should be all up to date then.

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I will get the tac map in place.

smoky junco
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Also, our patch is hilarious on the map

supple beacon
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I know right XD

sage crane
supple beacon
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eheheh

smoky junco
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Still though

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We should plan how we land our forces soon

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Mainly, how many tanks go where and in what formation

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And remember to keep out of urban areas, we do NOT do well there

sage crane
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I’d honestly argue we do better jusy because of how the bots operate

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They don’t really flank they just walk forward so having them corralled down streets is pretty helpful

supple beacon
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I think we could split up our tanks by 4 on each side of the space port unless we plan onto rushing to cross roads?

sage crane
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Plus again intel is everything

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If we find there’s a big bot push from the north it’d be smartest to go there

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Cautious planning is the smartest

smoky junco
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We are close to blind when dealing with the enemy currently

sage crane
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We’re a great matchup for the infantry though, they don’t have AP, and some 20% of their squads can’t even hit us at all

smoky junco
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Though, I’ve had a idea for what to do after the cities

sage crane
smoky junco
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A raid on Tora

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Once we retake ziyal

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Or whatever it’s falled

sage crane
smoky junco
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Idd Like to try and do a raid

sage crane
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The plan was always to take Ziyal and hold it

smoky junco
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I still would like to try and do a small scale raid

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If we can

sage crane
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We physically cannot

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We don’t have the required movement abilities to fly

smoky junco
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Well we can ask another BG if we were to do this

tranquil saddle
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Electro did steal an engine sooooo

smoky junco
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HEY!

tranquil saddle
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Strap it on dawn

sage crane
smoky junco
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SWORD BOUGHT THE WRONG TAPE TO SECURE IT

tranquil saddle
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He didn't bring flex tape

smoky junco
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this is why you DONT use masking tape to secure a engine

sage crane
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Anyways we’ll have to see how everything goes

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If we clear the bots off the planet and we need to raid a moon base or some shit? Sure

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But for now I’m guessing Tora is gonna be orbital stuff

muted quail
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But we can't transport

sage crane
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Yup

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Anyway we haven’t even touched down planetside yet let’s reign it back a bit

smoky junco
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Nothing a few nuclear bombs and a giant lead disk can’t solve

sage crane
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Ok wait the tanks absolutely slam their infantry I’ve just realised

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Range two means we can stay away from their massed numbers somewhat

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We don’t worry about their armour at all

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Oh my god if we even have 2 tanks their infantry CANNOT hit us because the damage is spread between them and won’t penetrate the armour

supple beacon
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We now just need to make sure we get most of the MBTS to put in their orders once we land.

sage crane
supple beacon
muted quail
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3 like a normal MBT

sage crane
muted quail
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Dawn has +2 hits and has an extra cannon

supple beacon
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Hm what does the SHBT have again that an MBT does not?

NVM lol

sage crane
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Oh lol

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Next campaign I refuse to touch organising anything
I will get my special forces and do sneaky things

muted quail
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See you say that

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I'll just recruit you to a BG of all taccoms

sage crane
supple beacon
sage crane
supple beacon
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***YEAH BUT THATS CAUSE I HAVE WORK PLUS MANY UNEXPECTED EVENTS THIS MONTH XD ***

sage crane
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Nah but I get it real life gets in the way

supple beacon
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Hey sorry lad XD but i will be getting back into this stuff.

sage crane
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I don’t mind too much, it’s been fun

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Just need a break to go back to SF stuff next campaign I think

smoky junco
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Don’t forget about me lol

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I’m the backup TAC-COM!

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Me being exhausted from working on steam locomotives is once per weak!

supple beacon
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Yeah you two lads have been a HUGE help, tbh i thought i would have run this BG into the ground long ago lol.

tender sierra
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Were can I find this šŸ¤”

smoky junco
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Looks like a modification of the frame I did

smoky junco
sage crane
sage crane
smoky junco
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HELL NAH

sage crane
smoky junco
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IM WORKIN ON A ACTUAL STEAM TRAIN

smoky junco
sage crane
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You’re fantastic thank you

sage crane
smoky junco
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I WOULDN’T BE EXHAUSTED IF IT WAS A MODEL TEAIN!

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But painting the top cab, chimney and inner cab plates in 30 degree heat is EXHASTING

sage crane
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Oh I forgot you’re British

smoky junco
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Also the left hand side tank was painted by me and two others

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It’s a 2-6-2T tank engine

sage crane
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Big words I’m gonna act like I know what they mean xD

smoky junco
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2 front and back wheels with 6 driving wheels

sage crane
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Oh nice

smoky junco
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It’s a big tank engine

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But it’s small for a locomotive

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As it isnt a tender Engine

ebon jacinth
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Ah, the Capitol Imperialis... good times

smoky junco
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The boiler went in last week

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So it’s getting there, should first steam late next year

sage crane
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@tender sierra have you found it?

tender sierra
smoky junco
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S P A H C E

sage crane
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There’s no requirement for coordinates

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You just need to fill in the table with who you want to go with

supple beacon
edgy pecan
supple beacon
edgy pecan
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Are we going to keep our infantry dug in with the tanks, or do we plan to split off the infantry together?

tranquil saddle
strong shoal
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Question has any of our plans changed because I see movement in our order channel I thought we dropped in on round 5

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And i haven't caught up with the last days got 12 hour shifts and I am fucked up so yeah

sage crane
strong shoal
hidden oyster
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Sorry, why do we have a HIVEMIND on our skip?

compact minnow
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A robotic hivemind, even. That's gonna be awkward

rancid orbit
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✨ because we can ✨

hidden oyster
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Yup. Yeah, that’ll do it.

compact minnow
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Wonder where they got the pulley parts...

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šŸ¤”

slate hemlock
rancid orbit
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hell yeahšŸ«‚

hidden oyster
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I was told to give the Hivemind percussive maintenance.

jade parcel
jade parcel
# hidden oyster I was told to give the Hivemind percussive maintenance.

Wow rude :<
and as for the earlier "why do we have a hivemind aboard", because human society at large is bafflingly disorganized for a baby hive mind and we wanted to practice social skills with a fleet of violent misfits before having to, say, negotiate for our lives against someone more dogmatic against synthetics

slate hemlock
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we can get lifta-droppa tech in the midround events!

sage crane
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@real kite @sage niche Please assign yourselves transport on the doc

azure coral
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What are orders and when are orders?

sage crane
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@hoary barn @unkempt matrix @graceful oak you too

azure coral
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I thought we were already loaded onto transports

sage crane
sage crane
azure coral
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Okay. I just saw someone say they were due soon and was curious as to what we needed to do

sage crane
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For when we are on the strat map

sage crane
unkempt matrix
unkempt matrix
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I might be dumb

sage crane
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the pins in this thread

unkempt matrix
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guessing one the of the 4 fp slots

sage crane
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Whichever one you want that doesn't say 6 FS

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Just make sure you ping the driver to let them know

unkempt matrix
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@jade parcel Drive safe plz🫔 I'll be with you (i think!)

sage crane
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Obviously I can't force you to change blah blah but it is something to think on

hidden oyster
unkempt matrix
sage crane
real kite
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When do I need to put my order in

sage crane
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Next turn

real kite
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So the current one or the one after

sage crane
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next

real kite
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Ok cool

sage crane
upper harbor
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I assume the LMs do not hafta position themselves

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since they are just running

hidden oyster
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… Why did I just notice your unit name is Punchy-1?

upper harbor
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It's been Punchy-1 since C4

hidden oyster
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Ah, I wasn’t there for C4.

upper harbor
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TBF, C4 was orbital only

hidden oyster
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Yeah. I was hoping to use my tanks in ANY of the other operations that happened.

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Buuut SAM hates me for threatening to drown them in spirit of coffee.

sage crane
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Oh you mean on the sheet

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No

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You don’t

upper harbor
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o7

sage niche
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Hey so I was told I need to get myself assigned to a transport who is available and where do I go to assign myself to a transport

upper harbor
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the battlegroup's gdocs

sage niche
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Ok thanks

upper harbor
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ya infantry?

sage niche
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Yes

upper harbor
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I think SuperTemplar's IFV still has a slot for infantry

sage niche
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Ok thanks

upper harbor
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it's the ONLY slot for infantry left

sage niche
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Ok can you send me a link to the google doc

upper harbor
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check pins

hoary barn
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here

sage niche
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Thank you guys and I think I assigned myself to super templar’s IFV now

mental comet
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Hello Venator! Spearhead here, wondering if you have interest in the Cell’Dar mines

dusty nimbus
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šŸ™‚

compact minnow
compact minnow
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I'm down to plunder defend the mines

sage niche
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Yes plunderi- I mean defending the mines sounds like an amazing idea

dusty nimbus
distant olive
compact minnow
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I wonder how much req/BP we could get for plunde- I mean protecting the mines

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Dang

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Shame we're an armored battlegroup lol

sage niche
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Yeah I guess battle group 5 would be better for this since they are an infantry battle group last I checked

compact minnow
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I guess they can be the tunnel rats

mental comet
distant olive
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I am just imagining a tank trying to roll down a mining tunnel PepeLaugh

compact minnow
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Nothing would be getting past it lol

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Just leave the SHBT at the entrance. If it dies, the mines are safe for a while.

sage crane
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While I’d be down for a vote democratically it has always been our job to be on the frontline

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It is simply a massive tactical blunder to jump into the mines

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Though I’ve had a thought

wicked dune
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rock and stone

sage crane
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What if we went to the mines and then beelined for Ziyal

compact minnow
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The kleptomaniacs crave loot

sage crane
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We have the supplies to remain self sufficient for a decent amount of time

distant olive
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I am willing to direct fire my artillery down a mineshaft ASpeepoSalute

jade parcel
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I would assume the Dwarves have the nines covered tbh

sage crane
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Dwarves are for the northern mine

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Good news, strat map transport is now fully sorted out šŸŽ‰

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@green flume @tame bane You guys are also gonna be carrying full loads of small supply right?

green flume
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I can, I've just been waiting to see what the need is so if y'all need that I got you

jade parcel
dusty nimbus
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I agree. I have a feeling we are gonna be taking extremely heavy resistance at Ziyal. Probably best to have the main armored force head there ASAP, instead of taking a detour to a lightly contested secondary objective.

vagrant frigate
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So let me get the current plan right, we all get dropped in by our Ship in Elim Spaceport, kill any toaster with a gun and the move to Ziyal to do the same

dusty nimbus
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Yep. I'm assuming we'll have to fight our way through the crossroads as well, though.

sage crane
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We land there this turn and hit Ziyal next turn

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Instead of slogging through Elim then Crossroads

dusty nimbus
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oooh, i see. I didnt realize we would skip Elim altogether.

vagrant frigate
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Okay I ask because I am in the final stages of my final exams and Timezones are a fucky

sage crane
sage crane
vagrant frigate
sage crane
vagrant frigate
sage crane
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to clarify we would LAND at the mines THIS turn. and be able to push into Ziyal NEXT turn instead of taking ages everyone

dusty nimbus
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From the way Shack's message was worded, it seems like the mines would be a multi-turn operation, no?

"Collect the goods, setup defenses and meet up with an ARMCO Transport in a few days."

sage crane
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Nope

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We don't have to do anything technically

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we can use the lift to touch down and just immedietly fuck off to Ziyal

muted quail
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XSword is assuming that the point between you and Ziyal is unoccupied

dusty nimbus
muted quail
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If C-Z is unoccupied you can get to Ziyal next turn.
If not, you'll need to fight in C-Z first.

sage crane
muted quail
sage crane
muted quail
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The objective is okay as long as enemies don't show up while you leave

sage crane
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There's no limit to the time we have, and we can block off the only ground access by going ziyal

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It gives storm time to recover and something to do aswell

dusty nimbus
muted quail
sage crane
tame bane
sage crane
sage crane
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If anyone can be a massive thorn in the bots side and not get shredded it's us though

muted quail
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Your job in Ziyal would be to clear the spot others enter the area from

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Also to be eyes to no one else needs to enter blind

sage crane
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We'd effectively draw in a massive amount of the bots forces away from crossroads and other areas

dusty nimbus
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I just hope the other BGs can punch through crossroads without our armored support.

sage crane
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They should have a decent chance, there are way more than 15 MBTs xD

tame bane
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Than Yes, send me in captain ARMCOSalute1

sage crane
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Btw guys please vote, very important

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@smoky junco you might like this

muted quail
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Xsword you need someone to help the poll? šŸ˜‰
-# I won't vote but I'd encourage Venator to do it

sage crane
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I hate that i can't edit the message above the poll

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to expand, we would IMMEDIATLY go to the ziyal next turn without having to push through Elim and Crossroads by doing this, is what I want to add above it because it's unclear

muted quail
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You could delete the poll and remake it

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Deleting votes is democracy at it's finest

dusty nimbus
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managed democracy

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the peak of liberty

sage crane
muted quail
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Nah

sage crane
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I actually might, don't want people to get the wrong message from it

muted quail
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-# Yes, listen to the guy from Victorum to control the masses

sage crane
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It isn't undemocratic actually, people can vote what they want to again

odd cape
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Is the poll up?

sage crane
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I'm about to redo it but with better explaination

little egret
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It just got deleted

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getting redone

sage crane
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It sounded like we'd go to the mine and then do it and then go to ziyal

little egret
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Right now the HATs dont have any Large supplies right?

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I think we should raid the mines load up the HATs with as much Large supplies as they can fit/we can load in one turn and then head out for Ziyal

sage crane
odd cape
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If we go to the mines arent we gonna be swinging in the wind like storm?

little egret
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Really?

dusty nimbus
muted quail
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The mines had no enemies as of 12 hours ago in game. So no enemies there T3

little egret
#

How would the HATS launch then?

odd cape
#

Unarmed and unarmored if I remember correctly

little egret
#

If we dont have any Airports then how do the hats get launched?

sage crane
#

Magic

odd cape
#

Not a 100% on if they can be shot down. I'm assuming fair game in space.

sage crane
#

Shack hasn't specified but i'm guessing they just start in the air

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If not well... that is the most stupid thing yet and won't happen xD

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Maybe there's hangers on the frieghter who knows

little egret
#

Im just wondering if the lifter has to go up and down several times could we load it up with easy to get L supplies?

sage crane
#

The entire reason we're going is because shack has said there's no enemies

little egret
#

I.e. we wont get all the L supplies but we could get some?

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Its worth asking about tbh

sage crane
muted quail
#

Remember when Democracy doesn't go your way. Call for another vote

sage crane
#

I genuinely think it was unclear what the intention was the first time

muted quail
#

No it's something I've seen other people do a bunch

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They just called for a revote when the vote didn't go their way and they were the more vocal people

sage crane
#

Well i'm not doing that

little egret
#

Naw if the vote doesnt go your way just use MANAGED DEMOCRACY

sage crane
#

The first vote was relatively close. This one is final however

sage crane
odd cape
#

Single BG deployment. We'd have to hold to acquire the supply and maintain the objective till someone relieves us.

sage crane
#

There's nothing saying the transport can't wait a few days

odd cape
#

Just wondering if we land and leave thst the clankers dont swing back from another section and seize the mines behind us cutting off our supply route.
But I voted to hit the deck at the mines. So either way

sage crane
#

There's one ground route in

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Which we're pushing through

smoky junco
dusty nimbus
#

How sure are we that the bots don't have air transport? I don't think it really matters, but we should still consider the possibility that we get encircled.

smoky junco
#

NGL i say caution here

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We need Intel

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We COULD leroy the mine

sage crane
#

Here me out

smoky junco
#

But I don’t think we should

odd cape
sage crane
#

We get the intel ourselves

smoky junco
#

But it’s the will of the BG

sage crane
#

Someones gonna have to have that first encounter with things

sage crane
#

We have the best chance of surviving it

smoky junco
#

True

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And a surprise flanking SHBT

sage crane
#

+it means we get to Ziyal wayy quicker and can start doing damage there

sage crane
smoky junco
#

To hell with it

dusty nimbus
smoky junco
#

LEEROY JENKINS LADS

sage crane
#

So that a vote for the correct opinion xD

magic hazel
#

Not to interrupt, but Pathfinders and Ultra are grabbing that scanning station: as soon as we do we'll be able to get you info. I'll push for any scan support you need

sage crane
sage crane
smoky junco
#

Apparently our nearest backup would be 7 strategic points away

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I don’t want to leeroy without backup being a option

odd cape
#

1 AA tank and no fighters mean any fighters/bombers or transports we encounter could decimate us in the field.

dusty nimbus
#

If things go wrong, I guess the plan B is to either fall back to the mines or just head to crossroads and set up a huge flank there.

sage crane
smoky junco
sage crane
#

Worst case we have 2 of the largest BGs holed up defending the mines

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It is a very very safe maneuver

odd cape
#

From crossroads or the mines space elevator?

sage crane
#

mines

dusty nimbus
#

I thought mine elevator will only be able to take 1 BG?

sage crane
#

it's in the grey

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If it can they can go get the lumar transports and then land

odd cape
#

Depending on the intel from the scanner it could be a quick way to ziyal but if we're solo with a 1 BG transport to the surface it could turn into a point rain holdout location at c-z if they come in force towards us

tame bane
#

Hear me out

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We just take an Airport

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and move it to the mines

smoky junco
#

Hmmm

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We’d need shovel or large supply

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Just relaised

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We’re doing a creed

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By stealth flanking a baneblade

sage crane
# sage crane

to help make coherent plans the vote with shut in 1 and a half hours, please vote

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I feel i should ping everyone in the BG who is online right now to make it fair

tame bane
#

Is there a way to @ everyone in specifically our battlegroup so they're aware?

sage crane
#

no, i'll just do it manually

tame bane
#

I feel sorry for you having to do that

sage crane
#

@covert compass @quasi scarab @compact minnow

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@real kite @graceful oak @green flume

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@spice nymph @random saddle @static galleon

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I think that's everyone actually in the BG who's online

wintry sapphire
#

Been a bit busy to check chat, what’s going on?

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Ah, I see, did the vote

sage crane
#

šŸ‘

#

To summarise for everyone else:

Opportunity to safely hit Ziyal from the bottom mines very quickly, the vote is whether we do that or slog through Elim

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We will be backed up by spearwall after a few turns

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@strong shoal you're gonna have to be on the back of a logi truck for transport if we switch to the mines btw, do you mind?

smoky junco
#

Regarldess

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Since we have alot of supply

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We should be able to hit hard and fast

sage crane
#

yuppers

strong shoal
sage crane
sage crane
smoky junco
#

Welp its 4:1

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We’re going in

sage crane
#

another hour and 20 mins

hidden oyster
#

Do we even know what’s up in Ziyal?

sage crane
#

don't count ppl out yet

smoky junco
#

We’re the insane BG

smoky junco
hidden oyster
#

… Great. Tanks going in without intel. This feels like a death trap.

smoky junco
#

We have recon elements

smoky junco
#

Our 8 light mechs can be a good scout force

sage crane
#

oh it's 8

mellow briar
#

I have no objection

smoky junco
#

Also our mechanised infantry

smoky junco
#

We have enough recon

sage crane
smoky junco
#

And enough tanks to BRUTE FORCE anything with zero losses

#

We are at CRITICAL TANK MASS

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Not to mention we can repair like 4-6 tanks a turn

#

4 from engineers and 2 from bulldozers aiding

#

We can sustain a war of attrition without losses

#

And we can call in a TF for air support

sage crane
smoky junco
#

They can add one action to engineers

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And clear rubble

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And we have armcos entire supply of them

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(Me and someone else)

sage crane
#

fun

smoky junco
#

We have some nasty combos for the supporting element

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Whcih is where I’ll be

sage crane
smoky junco
#

VOTE FOR THE GRAV LIFT

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WE MUST FLANK A BANEBLADE

sage crane
#

de baneblaade

mellow briar
static galleon
#

Idk i dont think that should be our job

sage crane
tranquil saddle
#

WE SHALL MINE AND CRAFT OUR WAY IN

sage crane
#

This is literally fast tracking it

static galleon
#

We're the spearhead, we should be joining up with the bulk of our forces and making sure the crossroads is secure instead of rushing to ziyal

sage crane
#

The logic is that the bots infrastructure is in Ziyal

static galleon
#

Right now the 212th won't be able to join us which means no logi support

#

No air support either because the crossroads airport won't be available for a while

sage crane
sage crane
static galleon
#

Yes and assaulting an enemy fortified position without support

static galleon
sage crane
sage crane
static galleon
#

Idk it sounds to me like something a more balanced BG should do

sage crane
#

Nothing is set in stone because we got given this info about 6 hours ago

static galleon
#

Rushing it sounds like it could come back to bite us hard

sage crane
#

It's not like we even go in fully blind, we have 8 LM scout mechs

static galleon
#

Not rushing to ziyal

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Rushing to ziyal sounds like something no one should do

sage crane
static galleon
sage crane
#

Worst case scenario we can just back off and go to the mine and hunker down with Spearhead

sage crane
# static galleon

We're using the grav lift to touch down and "defend" the mines by clearing the ground path

#

Spearhead is coming in on the lumar transports behind us to complete the actual objective

static galleon
#

That's not a single transport though

#

The job is clearly for a battlegroup to set up shop at the mines and wait there, not use it to attack ziyal directly

sage crane
#

The lumar transports can land with landing gear anywhere

static galleon
#

What if the mines get attacked? We'd be completely cut off

static galleon
#

Cap recommends a single transport to minimize power signature

sage crane
#

Victorum is accompanying us across nav L one

odd cape
#

we could land and move to c-z and await reinforcement holding the ground lanes to the mines, but without dedicated support we are in the wind. theres no guarentee of TF fighter or fire support.

sage crane
#

So we have orbital support

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Ground support- we do not need it

odd cape
#

if they get engaged we lose our support very quickly

sage crane
#

Air support we could ask atlas or fluffle to move in

dusty nimbus
sage crane
sage crane
#

The objective is get the ore on the ship

static galleon
#

And how much you wanna bet cap planned for the mines to get attacked in the meantime?

#

He wouldn't suggest this and then just have nothing happen

#

That would be ridiculous gameplay wise

mellow briar
sage crane
#

Yes which is afucking gain why we are landing there and then spearhead is coming in behind us

#

It's not like we're abandoning it to the wind

#

we have a whole other BG coming in to actually complete the objective

dusty nimbus
mellow briar
#

Sounds like a very interesting obje tove to secure, strategically speaking

sage crane
#

we are just using the grav lift as a way to divert bot attention and hit the bots hard early in Ziyal

static galleon
odd cape
#

another BG is going to try and use the scanners to give us more up to date intel of the AO.

sage crane
static galleon
dusty nimbus
static galleon
#

It's about avoiding being cutoff and attacking a fortified enemy position without backup

sage crane
#

We have back up for the 8th bloody time

static galleon
static galleon
#

we'll be alone on the map of ziyal city

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is my point

#

just having someone over there at the back doesn't make them backup

sage crane
#

It's not like we're gonna drive in and go haha boom boom

#

Tanks have range two

static galleon
#

then what's it about?

sage crane
#

We have 8 LM scouts

static galleon
#

we just stand there and watch the fortifications?

dusty nimbus
#

Can someone explain to me what being "cutoff" really does? It's not like we'll run out of food. The only problem is arty ammo, or am I missing something?

sage crane
#

Just because we rush to get there doesn't mean we're rushing into the defences head on

static galleon
#

we dead

static galleon
#

luring the enemy away sure

odd cape
tranquil saddle
static galleon
#

but like, they will be lured somewhere
and that would be where we are

#

sounds risky without, you know
backup

dusty nimbus
sage crane
#

Exactly that for one

static galleon
sage crane
#

The bots aren't going to come all running out of Ziyal to follow us

odd cape
#

if we are minimizing engine signatrue at the mines and use of only one transport a TF can't accompany us or our insert will be compromised.

static galleon
#

If the mines are attacked then we have to stay there

sage crane
#

No we don't

static galleon
#

And the entire point of rushing to Ziyal is moot

sage crane
#

Spearhead is arriving 1-2 rounds after us

odd cape
#

we'd have to punch out to c-z for us to have options to move or we will be stuck at the mines.

static galleon
static galleon
#

Imo we lose the reason to go there in the first place

sage crane
#

God i'm not going to argue every fucking point of the plan

#

The vote is 11-4

#

it's closing in 40 minutes

#

Hate it so much? Get people to vote against it and then we won't do it

static galleon
#

That's what I'm trying to do lol

#

That's all I can do and if we go down that route then trust I'll be there all the way and you won't hear me complaining

sage crane
#

Sorry for snapping btw
It's a bit late on my end and plans have been flip flopping all day

#

No excuse but

static galleon
#

I just personally don't think it's a better option than the original plan and am voicing it

#

It's fine

sage crane
#

Yeah that'c completely valid tbf

static galleon
#

I am pretty relentless

compact minnow
#

It's not a better plan than the original plan, but I crave the plunder

hidden oyster
#

I’m just making plans for when my tank blows up.

odd cape
#

we are voicing concerns over an overt over extension without our rear secured. i voted to go but i just wanted to voice that we will be alone for a turn or two without support

dusty nimbus
#

I honestly don't think there's much difference in going to crossroads or mines. Either way it will probably take us around the same amount of time to get to Ziyal. I do think there's more potential in the mines, though.

sage crane
#

I still think it may not be better for us as a BG but overall it will help the entire force

#

We weaken Ziyal early and pull away resistance from the Crossroads

compact minnow
#

Won't there be supplies at the mines?

static galleon
odd cape
#

yes but itd have to be located and secured from within the mines

hidden oyster
#

The stuff at the mines are useful because they’re valuable, not because they have any strategic use.

compact minnow
#

We could probably actually reduce the logistical strain by securing those supplies

static galleon
#

At least right away

sage crane
compact minnow
#

If we meet resistance at the mines, we'd be able to use em while we're there

#

Saving the supplies we're already carrying

static galleon
#

Honestly the biggest criticism I have is that people expect our support for the main assault since that's, you know, what we said we'd be doing all along

sage crane
#

it's definitely faster

compact minnow
#

Biggest thing I can think of is that we'd be avoiding fighting in the streets of Elim

sage crane
compact minnow
#

Avoiding urban combat where possible may be a good choice for tanks

sage crane
#

Spearwall decided to switch to the mines even before the midround

#

And Ultra and path are going to the relay to get more info

static galleon
#

Both? Oof

#

Sounds excessive

sage crane
#

We're overall opting for a slower, more cautious and drawn out battle

static galleon
#

Except us

sage crane
#

Also I think the lack of us being there is if anything a blessing

odd cape
#

i'm not sure who is going to be reinforcing storm but they do need to be reinforced or their entire BG will be massacared

sage crane
#

Trying to cram that many playing in that small a space isn't a good idea

static galleon
#

Redwall, dwarf fortress, etc

sage crane
dusty nimbus
sage crane
#

Anyway I saw someone mention supply earlier, we have like 90 in our HATs that's under control

sage crane
#

šŸ‘†

compact minnow
static galleon
#

Worth keeping in mind if push comes to shove but

sage crane
#

We could find ourselves being very very flanked atp

odd cape
#

we'd risk our rear elements exposed as we pass by.

#

or slammed between what could be at crossroads and what follows us from ziyal

dusty nimbus
compact minnow
#

We don't know the full strength of the bot forces in system, except that they're strong enough to have driven the local PDFs to the brink

sage crane
#

Us assualting Ziyal could also draw in those forces from Crossroads

#

We'll just have to see and wait

compact minnow
#

It is said we have one of the strongest BGs in theater

dusty nimbus
#

Yeah, all depends on what we see in Ziyal.

compact minnow
#

Wherever we go may well become the bot's main focus

sage crane
#

Also I just want to calrify

#

Clarify

compact minnow
#

calrify

static galleon
sage crane
#

The poll is not closing in 30 minutes because the option I prefer is in the lead

#

It was going to shut then whoever was in the lead

#

It's very short but mainly because we need to have a concrete plan

static galleon
#

It's fine no one's thinking that of you

compact minnow
#

If we could draw the bots away from the population centers, that'd be for the best

sage crane
dusty nimbus
#

I guess XSword has become the de facto tac-com at this point.

sage crane
#

@sage niche is your callsign Viking or Farmer?

sage crane
#

Marl's the TAC-COM

compact minnow
#

De jure

sage crane
#

He's been very busy so i've psuedo taken the role TCs take of "pushing" the ideas forward
But he is the map man

sage crane
sage niche
#

I thought it was Viking but now that I think about it I might have named my infantry unit Viking and made my call sign farmer

compact minnow
static galleon
sage niche
#

If you want I can change my callsign on the sheets to farmer

sage crane
sage crane
compact minnow
#

It's one of the romance languages

sage crane
sage niche
#

Ok I guess I will go change it on the sheet to avoid confusion

compact minnow
#

Vici, vidi, veni

sage crane
sage crane
compact minnow
#

It is

sage crane
#

oh i get it xD

sage crane
#

5 mins

hidden oyster
#

I’d almost surround the city instead, guns pointed outward, in case the bots start retreating from Elm City to Ziyal City.

sage crane
#

they don't retreat

#

that's their entire thing

#

Anyway poll closed

hidden oyster
#

Ah.

sage crane
# sage crane
poll_question_text

REDO
The mine option means we would land the mine this coming turn, then immeditely go to Ziyal the following turn, not actually doing the whole LS thing with the mine as that'd take ages and someone else could fly over to do that.

victor_answer_votes

15

total_votes

21

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

We land at the mine this turn and then head Ziyal next.

#

VENATOR WE WILL OFFICIALLY BE LANDING AT THE MINE NEXT TURN. AND AFTER THAT WE WILL HIT ZIYAL HARD AND FAST

#

I say we call this operation Slingshot

#

As we're using the grav lift to slingshot into Ziyal

hidden oyster
#

If we do meet extremely heavy resistance right out the gate, I’m willing to volunteer my tank as the proverbial first man over the wall.

smoky junco
smoky junco
#

Better idea, OPERATION: DAWN-BRINGER

#

That or operstion: Seto Kaiba because that would just be funny

signal coyote
#

Operation Blue Eyes?

median sail
#

Operation gate crasher is my vote

smoky junco
#

Operation blue eyes white dragon

hidden oyster
#

Operation: Sword’s Crossing

smoky junco
#

If we have the dumbest name

#

The bots won’t expect it

#

Afterall

#

THEY DONT PLAY CARD GAMES

quasi scarab
smoky junco
#

Hear me out

signal coyote
smoky junco
#

Card Games on Main Battle Tanks

smoky junco
signal coyote
signal coyote
#

Actually they would use apple

#

It's lame

smoky junco
#

OPERATION HUGH

#

Or operation Blue Eyes white dragon

median sail
signal coyote
#

Long name

smoky junco
#

That’s what makes it funny

signal coyote
#

Fair

smoky junco
#

OPERATION BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON, IN ATTACK MODE!

hidden oyster
#

Also, if we are planning on using the elevator to get to Ziyal City, we have to consider the chance that there might be enemies on the other side, really to blow us to bits.

odd cape
#

so next turn ordrrs are for dropping at the mines?

smoky junco
#

I think so, with player orders afterwards

median sail
smoky junco
quasi scarab
hidden oyster
hidden oyster
#

Why does that matter again?

smoky junco
hidden oyster
#

Oh.

median sail
#

Cause I'm tanky

hidden oyster
#

That makes much more sense now.

smoky junco
#

And enough engineers to repair it faster than it’s damaged

median sail
sage crane
#

However we needed a plan to just actually have

hidden oyster
#

(*to)?

smoky junco
#

Anyway

#

OPERATION: BLUE EYES WHITE DRAGON IS A GO!

sage crane
#

We couldn’t be going ā€œyeah we might be doing thisā€ wheb we’re going into tac com day

hidden oyster
sage crane
#

😭

smoky junco
#

Erm

#

Operstion: XSwords tears?

sage crane
#

Nah

smoky junco
#

Erm

hidden oyster
#

I hesitantly volunteer my tank to take a beating when we first cross.

sage crane
#

Operation Ziyal Blitz?

median sail
smoky junco
#

Operarion: Goldship

#

To defeat the robots

hidden oyster
#

Operation: Sword’s Crossing?

smoky junco
#

we must use anime

#

and horse racing

#

…or both

#

we need some thing stupid yet cool

median sail
smoky junco
#

Seems a little to long and not suited for a first strike?

#

OPERATION: CREED

#

ya know for general creed

#

Sneaking baneblades

quasi scarab
smoky junco
#

Or baneswords

median sail
#

Operation gate ringer?

smoky junco
#

That’s more a orbtial

#

I Think creed is best for this since we’re sneaking in a baneblade-

smoky junco
#

IVE GOT IT

#

OPERATION: INQUISITION

hidden oyster
#

But seriously, we have to consider just having a few tanks front and center to tank rounds as soon as we get out.

smoky junco
#

NOBODY EXPECTS US

sage crane
#

Maybe we don’t need an operation name xD

smoky junco
#

Yes

#

We simply are THE SPANISH INQUISITION

#

Wait I’ve got it

#

operation DETROIT

wicked dune
odd cape
hidden oyster
median sail
#

Given how deadly bot infanty is against our infanty I'm concerned about how there vehicles will be

odd cape
#

id say infantry only advance behind the armor during assaults so the clankers prioritize firing at the armor.

hidden oyster
#

We’re the sacrifices, eh? The iron wall.

sage crane
#

....

odd cape
#

i'd say diversions but i think we can hold them for a turn unless they somehow roll their own armor up then we might be in trouble.

sage crane
#

We have 8 evasive Light Mechs for a reason guys

median sail
sage crane
#

The logic is the inf will be out of range

#

tanks have range 2

#

we stay as far away from the bots as possible so the inf don't get hit and can protect the engis who repair any damage

odd cape
#

they cant take the hits we can so if we drop 2 to 4 mbts out of the gate we can take the hits so the LM and the other MBT's behind us can flank

sage crane
#

The LMs can take the hits though

#

They have evasive

smoky junco
#

I’ll be getting out last due to being a engineering support unit lol

#

Bulldozer and all that jaz

muted quail
#

XSword is Gold ("Aether") [MBT] on your sheet?

sage crane
#

should be

smoky junco
#

I’ll be in the back of the formation, able to plug gaps if needed in the line but mainly there to help engineers

odd cape
#

lm hit 2 armor 1, mbt hits 3 armor 3

muted quail
sage crane
#

no clue

#

i remember them signing up tho

#

@wintry sapphire ?

sage crane
#

so they TECHNICALLY have -4 damage

#

They're what we send to deal with AT stuff

smoky junco
#

anyway I sleep

wintry sapphire
#

whats up?

sage crane
#

And to scout a little bit ahead

#

Apparently you aren't on the sheet

#

And i've double checked, you aren't

#

No clue why

muted quail
sage crane
#

Can I add you back on quickly?

wintry sapphire
#

Please do

#

I did the start up sheet when we first started getting this together

sage crane
#

Done

wintry sapphire
#

good

wintry sapphire
#

so, anything you need from me while im on

sage crane
#

We had so many we lost track xDD

hidden oyster
#

lol

sage crane
#

We've repeatedly thrown shit at the wall and nothing stuck so far

hidden oyster
#

I mean, OPERATION: SWORD’S CROSSING had support from our Super Heavy.

#

You’re our de facto TACCOM.

sage crane
wintry sapphire
#

Bot Smasher?

sage crane
#

Also we really aren't "crossing" much xD

wintry sapphire
#

Rumble mania?

#

Song of treads?

hidden oyster
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We’re crossing the whole planet!

sage crane
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I still like slingshot

hidden oyster
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Oh, wait. Nvm, I’m dumb.

sage crane
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We're using the Grav lift as a slingshot to Ziyal

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Though that's far too logical for a military operation name

hidden oyster
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We could do the Eastings Invasion. The Battle of 73 Easting was the last major tank battle of the 20th century.

sage crane
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I was thinking "Operation: 600" but that's incredibly pessimistic on the outcome

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"And so into the valley of death
Rode the 600"

hidden oyster
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Ah, Charge of the Light Brigade.

sage crane
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Anyways i'll let you all figure out the operation name(I do quite like Swords Crossing but again, narcissism)
I need to sleep now

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Today has been, excuse my french, a clusterfuck of everything and anything

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Good Timezone lads!

hidden oyster
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Also, don’t worry, you can always say it was my idea.

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What? It is!

median sail
wintry coral
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What in the flying fuck is going on?

hidden oyster
covert compass
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Ah dang I missed the vote

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But the outcome is the one I'd have voted for anyways

hidden oyster
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Should we put it to vote?

sage crane
wintry coral
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I don't think Venator can land all in one go at the Mine. We don't have the capacity. It would take atleast 3 turns. 1 to do the initial landing. 1 to go back to orbit and 1 to come back down. The HATs require an airfield at a minimum.

median sail
wintry coral
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Ohhh

covert compass
sage crane
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Right now I will sleep goodnight

wintry coral
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How will we lift the goods if the grav lift craps out too early?

little egret
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Spearhead is coming behind us with the capcity to do that

dusty nimbus
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What will our HATs be doing? They won’t have an airfield to operate out of, right?

wintry coral
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That is correct.

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I hope Spearhead can build one.

hidden oyster
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Our BG seems mainly focused around our armor, considering the 16 MBTs.

wintry coral
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Well... the grav lift can probably only drop down 1 BG. Can Spearhead get themselves down or will our VTOLs/HVTOLs assist?

covert compass
wintry coral
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I think we should make sure Spearhead gets down in one piece before we move on to Ziyal.

dusty nimbus
covert compass
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Unless you think it'd be of more help to support the armor directly

wintry coral
little egret
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#midround-events message

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thats what spearhead has

wintry coral
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I just had a look, they have no lift.

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Like 3 aerospace assets, that's it.

dusty nimbus
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They’ll be using Lumarian transports