Battlegroup 2 - Venator: Comms

[ebon jacinth]

Born to compete, never retreat?

[smoky junco]

We can do better

https://youtu.be/i8ju_10NkGY

[quasi scarab]

This we shall play when we arrive to battle!

[ebon jacinth]

I will accept this xD

[smoky junco]

Indeed

[tranquil saddle]

Our war song

[twilit sand]

i see nothing wrong with this

[quasi scarab]

If the clankers can feel fear, this will surely make them flee in terror.

[tranquil saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-burger-beard-sponge-out-of-water-driving-gif-18237088074697935251

Electro I found your mbt

[twilit sand]

welp he is doing broadsides now

[ebon jacinth]

I see you are an internetnaut of culture, Silver

[smoky junco]

Yes, yes you did

[signal coyote]

How do we have free slots for Logi?

[sage crane]

We never got the 2nd one

And one of our fighters switched BGs

[signal coyote]

Aight

[sage crane]

So we’re still looking out for Logi trucks lads

Fark

Forgot to do the verification check across everyone in the BG

Tomorrows jobs now

Or today’s job looking at the clock

Why

Why is it so big????

[strong shoal]

Because reasons than can't be discussed

[supple beacon]

Morning lads.

[dusty nimbus]

morning... commander? i guess thats your title now

[golden thistle]

Morning! What’s new? Do we know what we’re doing yet or are we still in the planning phase

[tame mango]

Still just planning and waiting for now.

[golden thistle]

Do we have any info on where the Star Ports are?

[dusty nimbus]

just guesses until we start getting recon forces into the area

[golden thistle]

Wait, one of our HATs is a Gunship?!?

[errant pine]

STAN is sporting a gun. Only one in the campaign I believe.

[golden thistle]

Well color me surprised, that’s awesome! Can’t wait to see what they can do

[dusty nimbus]

this will be the first time one is used in combat, right? im interested in how effective they are

its only got 1 armor so i have a feeling its going to get obliterated by enemy AA, but i hope im wrong

[golden thistle]

It can take some extra hits, but yeah, AA might be able to shut it down if we’re not careful. Though I suppose that AA can shut down ANY air vehicle pretty easy XD

Hey Dave, are you still on the fence about bringing the portable bunker or not? Or are you just holding off on deciding till we get more info?

[supple beacon]

Yeah it will be the first, am very interested in how well the gunship will fair.

[errant pine]

Holding off to decide for now. Still watching Flying Shovel talk about their plans.

I’m also going to bring up creating a logi focused BG here in a few hours when I can slap a sheet together on my computer. Idea being it’d work with the push East, but it’d be its own BG. Would allow this new BG to move independently, meaning the logi and potentially fighters of this new BG could support a Ziyal push and return to Crossroads to rearm and resupply without the main combat BGs having to pull back as well.

Captain has brought up the potential for logi BGs to function, and with BGs able to support each other there’s not really a downside other than requiring more TCOs and a little more organizing and communication. CrazyAxx has brought it up in DF for their BG to split into 2 for the logi flexibility. My idea would be a BG that would support the push and the BGs involved, so similar to his…but I’m more planning to open the idea in open comms and see if I get interest rather than trying to specifically split this BG.

This will be my pitch in metacomms and the BattleGroup Organization channel…just waiting for the comp time to have a sheet to start collecting names if I get them.

Is anyone interested in joining a Logistics BG? We’d largely be running supplies to/from the hopefully upcoming airfield in Crossroads but would also be in a position to assist with troop movement. This group would ideally be largely vehicles given its nature, but include both ground and aerospace logistical vehicles as well as some escorting units. Let me know if you’re interested! [insert sheet link here]

[tranquil saddle]

YEEAHHHHHHH BABYYYYY AC130 FUCL YEAAHHH

[golden thistle]

Does that mean you will be leaving us unfortunately?

[errant pine]

if enough interest, then I'd be leaving on paper...but supporting y'all's push. This BG would just not be locked to the rest of y'all's forces. Means I could help y'all get there and get supplies...but I could also resupply/rearm and/or support others without pulling y'all off of the line.

[static galleon]

Sounds like a great idea ngl

We'll see how things develop

[errant pine]

I posted in both #meta-comm and #1382045293591134218 . If it doesn't get at least 14 others who are interested, then all I lost was the time it took to make the email address and the sheet. The benefits I see are too great and the costs too small for me to just sit on it and not at least see if there are others who agree.

[median sail]

Have we managed to get a logi truck yet?

[supple beacon]

Am organizing it, theres only so many logi trucks units out there.

(Sorry if this came out a bit rude lad)

[jade parcel]

I think it's still just me

[manic spade]

And we're very appreciative to have you. Prepare to be the most popular person in the BG, lol.

Hope you've got big shoulders to carry us with.

[median sail]

So we have 1 at least?

[distant olive]

Maybe the cult needs to idols 🤣

[sage crane]

Yep

We’re also working with 2 from Redwall and one from spearhead

[ebon jacinth]

Yoof xD

Welp, I know what I'm buying with the Req... xD

[smoky junco]

Anything I should know about that happened when I was sleeping

[smoky junco]

https://tenor.com/view/legendary-battle-worthy-opponent-finally-a-worthy-opponent-our-battle-will-be-legendary-gif-14616660

[ebon jacinth]

First orders due on the 23rd, right?

[rancid orbit]

It's start

[marble echo]

Yes but no xD, here is the original message with the adaptive time codes

[sage crane]

Yesnt

That’s when the game starts

But I’m assuming that’s for the earliest TFs

So for instance atlas and the recon rounds

[upper harbor]

How many LMs do we have?

Enough to make a skirmisher force?

[sage crane]

7

[sage crane]

Yes

[lyric cobalt]

God I am eager to see this tank line in action

[sage crane]

Aren’t we all

I’ve come to terms with the horrible supply situation

[lyric cobalt]

Also didn't expect y'all to be toting so much arty with only one truck

At least you got your hats to air drop supply into it if you ever need to

[sage crane]

At the end of the day if we shoot them first they can’t damage us

[sage crane]

We need Logi trucks to work in tandem for it

So we have to cooperate across 3 BG/

[sage crane]

1 spg, one gettin towed by is, one pulled by a guy in spear wall and the other is potentially sitting in a HAT

[lyric cobalt]

Bahaha God at least one can drive themselves but the cost of constantly firing them and repairing the tanks is going to be quite the sight to see. Hopefully we cross paths to maybe restock y'all

[upper harbor]

One hellava skirmishing force. We can counter fast movers or infantry

[lyric cobalt]

Spg my beloved

[upper harbor]

We really need heavier laser weapons

Saves alot on the supply side for mechs

[lyric cobalt]

Evasion mechs soaking rounds for the tanks should hopefully keep repairs cheap

[sage crane]

Wonderful point

[sage crane]

We should be fine

In fact I’m pretty sure our HATs will be supplying your logi trucks 😉

Wait are you a part of Redwall/spearhead

[lyric cobalt]

Dwarf Fortress! The dorks with a bit too much in the supply department

[sage crane]

Ahh I see

[jade parcel]

I drew a little maid to paint on the side of my logitruck
I take the honeypot ant theming very seriously

[lyric cobalt]

Huge fan of that defense bonus

[lyric cobalt]

Oh that is amazing

[wary sundial]

I look away from the screen for a second suddenly maidant

[jade parcel]

You're welcome :3

[upper harbor]

Punch-1 doesnt have fists yet

[lyric cobalt]

At least we know what their favorite drink is

[upper harbor]

When i upgrade him to a heavy(maybe), i'll slap hands on him, and maybe grab autocannons or suply crates

[upper harbor]

You got it. It's a gin puff cocktail.

[lyric cobalt]

Giant mech very carefully picking up a tiny sand bag

[upper harbor]

I mean, our heavy mechs are refurbished industrial mechs

[marble echo]

Ah a connoisseur of the DPS strats xD

[lyric cobalt]

Ah mech warrior, God I need to build another lrm boat

[ebon jacinth]

What's that? The graphic syle looks MechWarrior, but I cannot tell h Mech

[strong shoal]

Yeah your right that's a mech that looks like from mech warrior

[strong shoal]

Maybe panther I think I can't really remember the name but it is familiar to me somehow

[upper harbor]

Mechwarrior 5: mercs. That's the Loader King. The militarised version is the Roughneck

@ebon jacinth

It's a 65 tonne heavy

LRM boat... a heavy mech with 3x LRM supply contracts, you have missiles to fire for 9 turns

[wary sundial]

Mech pilot, hell yeah

[slate hemlock]

the only proper 'mech is either the crab or king crab in my book

https://tenor.com/view/king-crab-battletech-king-crab-battletech-mechwarrior-mechwarrior-king-crab-gif-9061798129423776655

[mellow briar]

Morning lads, how's it going?

[errant pine]

Doin aight. You?

[mellow briar]

Working the weekend shift, otherwise alright

[willow osprey]

I’m interested too as I’m saving up to upgrade my HAT into one

[sage crane]

Ok so who is Dare davil 876

😭

@sage niche Please could you activate your unit

[sage niche]

Oh sorry did not know it was inactive

[sage crane]

@green lintel could you please activate your unit

[sage niche]

It says my callsign is already in use

[sage crane]

use another then

[sage niche]

This was the only unit I have but I will try

[sage crane]

The callsign is the name you give the unit on the map

not the units actual name

when you input the callsign a drop down comes up and you need to select the unit you want to use

[modest shale]

Afternoon all how go

[sage niche]

Ok

[sage crane]

going through the list rn to see whose active

[modest shale]

love ya

anything I can help with start at the other side meet in the middle?

[sage crane]

If you could start from the bottom of the vehicles section that'd be fantastic

just ping anyone who hasn't activated basically

[modest shale]

you got it

[sage crane]

Righto that's all infantry and air accounted for

@azure coral could you activate your unit please

[sage niche]

Yeah my thing says that my callsign is already in use

[sage crane]

Use a different one then

[distant olive]

the callsign is not your unit name, just what is displayed on the maps later

[sage crane]

@modest shale where are you at?

i'm down to pete now

[modest shale]

just hit JMFragger

oh perfect

haha

[sage crane]

sweet 🤣

[modest shale]

yep all active

cept war of course

[sage crane]

Alrighty, so just potato and desryu

@sage niche how goes it?

[sage crane]

@supple beacon everyone's been checked over, all active cept these 2 now, already pinged em

[sage niche]

Ok I think I just figured out to finally activate my infantry unit

Hopefully

[modest shale]

there's no rush mate, no worries easy to check

Viking farmer active yeah your good

[sage niche]

Thank you glad I got that sorted out and will be able to join you all on the battle field

[modest shale]

also oozing puss wound

low-born orc

[sage niche]

By the way do you know what the role of the infantry is going to be in this unit since this mostly a heavy armor unit

[sage crane]

we can't tell you what to do but the idea was to have infantry protect engis who will be repairing the tanks

[sage niche]

Ok sounds like a plan

Just wanted to make sure I knew my part of the plan to follow at least when we are starting off

I will do my best to defend our engineers

[modest shale]

glad to have ya mate, well be going after the cities alongside other battlegroups were coordinating with, needless to say there should be plenty to do once were in the thick of things, but well see its all theory at this point

[green lintel]

Wait I'm in?!

[green lintel]

My bad
Done

[sage crane]

Thanks!

[smoky junco]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[signal coyote]

VENATOR WILL BE UNBROKEN

LET THE BOTS BEND BENEATH OUR STEEL

[modest shale]

THE EVIL BOTS

[smoky junco]

NO, WE WILL PLUNDER THEM

[modest shale]

SAMS COOL

[smoky junco]

FOR WE ARE PIRATES!

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-piracy-you-are-a-pirate-lazytown-robbie-rotten-gif-15160380677926524721

[sage niche]

YOHO PIRATES ARE WE

[wary sundial]

others fight the bots
we package them and leave with them

[smoky junco]

Nah we can repurpose them

Reuse them

FIGHT ROBOTS WITH PIRATE ROBOTS

[wary sundial]

Bots as Arty ammunition? sick idea

[smoky junco]

No

Stick a pirate hat on them

And have them fight the enemy

THE PIRATE BATTLE DROIDS!

[real kite]

Both what XSword said and we’ll also be tasked with doing breaches if we have to, alongside general house clearing and whatnot so the tanks don’t get ambushed by enemy AT weapons

[sage niche]

Ok

[real kite]

But we’ve got medics and whatnot who can heal us so it’s not all bad

[covert compass]

Pirating? me? Never!

[versed olive]

Flight Deck adjustment just dropped, that’s a conundrum

[modest shale]

the 2x vtol or was there another?

oh wait

yeah differnet things right

[versed olive]

Both got doubled

Vtol Bay & Flight Deck

[modest shale]

WELL

it does mean that vic atlas and others can use half the decks and replace them with other things

thats nice

wait

[sage crane]

Fighters are still welcome to go if you were wondering haha

[versed olive]

Refunds aren’t allowed though

[modest shale]

aviary the carrier

is going to have so many slots now

they are not yeah, personally im less bothered by this because its still good to have lots of extra slots, but perhaps not quite ideal*

aviary has 10 slots for craft I think now, insane, sadly I doudt they'll fill it at this stage unless some shuffling happens, which of course is also fine

[strong shoal]

Question so the new changes mean what In short?

[versed olive]

So the before Flight Deck, an orbital upgrade to carry, rearm & repair aerospace units (Not Vtols), only had space enough for 1 unit, but with the new adjustment in midround, we can have 2 units in 1 flight deck albeit with less repair kits.

[azure coral]

I think I got it activated

Yes I did

[ebon jacinth]

Do we have any estimate on what "1 repair kits" means in actual, operational terms?

[sage crane]

Nice!

Thats everyone then

[azure coral]

I assumed repairing 1 or 2 damage or fixing a subsystem

But no

[versed olive]

It’s used to repair orbital by 1 hit

[ebon jacinth]

Ok

Man, I could use some logi in the real world, too xD
Italian railways are somehow worse than our current predicament

At least Venator's got tanks and tanks are cool

[azure coral]

https://tenor.com/view/tank-drift-snow-gif-5245266

[ebon jacinth]

Wiiiiiiiiiiii! (If I was in that specific tank, I'd be terrified xD)

I think I have found a way to flavour every single unit in the game for the very specific flavour of corporate techno feudalism that my company deals with.
Yes, even logi trucks.

[median sail]

There were challenges making them different from other weapons last I saw

[mellow briar]

I feel lasers should have an ablative effect on armor (picture melting/burning chunks away, lowering the target's armor value), but then again that would probably feature creep an already work intensive game for Shacks and co.

[median sail]

Yea that would be annoying to track and just adding up to them makes them better AC's

[modest shale]

they would be cool but yeah agreed the simpler the better, an easy way would be just have them do the same as an AC, d4, range 2, ap1, but remove the rapid fire as a pay off for not needing ammo*.

"Rapid Fire: This is a weapon system that fires quickly. It's very good at spreading damage, usually to large groups of targets. Double Damage against “horde” tagged enemies. "

for ease of reference

personally if I was building a bigger mech id have at least one AC for rapid fire alone

[median sail]

MG has Rapid Fire wich is its thing, AC has ap

[mellow briar]

Or maybe damage drop at range? Makes it a weapon you wanna take in close and personnal.

[modest shale]

they both have rapid yeah, the HMG has more ammo no ap

oh like a melta that would be cool, much easier to manage as well

[median sail]

Must have changed from last I looked

[modest shale]

completely fair its getting changed alot

[ebon jacinth]

Ah, melta. Good times

[modest shale]

it is a very sexy thing

[versed olive]

It’s been a very short time since I joined this battlegroup but with the new adjustment to flight deck I believe I will be able to support armco as a whole better in a TF, so good luck out there in Ziyal and hopefully I can run interception missions to protect the skies of your operations in the future.

[ebon jacinth]

Can't wait to see you in action, chief ^^

[tender sierra]

Yeh what up

[sage crane]

Your name is incorrect on the sheet 🤣

[tender sierra]

Is it my callsign or player name

[sage crane]

player name on the left

[tender sierra]

Thanks

[median sail]

a deployed logi truck can refuel my fuel tanks so i'm back to being less slow

[modest shale]

just saw that, nice one

regardless wed all hug you anyway, our battlegroups holy relic

as long as you want to be that of course!

[supple beacon]

Alright thanks lad

Also morning lads

[errant pine]

Off to a good start I hope

[sage crane]

Morning marl

Midnight for me xD

[ebon jacinth]

Hey, marl!

[supple beacon]

Yep, I been working on the method for making the maps for shack I probably end up using TTS

Hey tal and xsword!

Hope all is well lads

[sage crane]

Is good

Final exam… today I suppose now xD

[supple beacon]

Ah well best of luck to you lad!

[ebon jacinth]

It always amuses me how you punch in when I'm punching out because timezones xD
Reminds me of the comic book about two shepherd dogs alternating between shifts

[sage crane]

I also had an idea for a joint logi document between the Ziyal BGs, managed by yours truly

It’d track the amount of small supply each unit is handling and their location

So you can quickly figure out who needs more supplies where

[ebon jacinth]

Ooooooooooooooh

[supple beacon]

Hmm, alright go ahead lad.

[sage crane]

Will start on it tomorrow

Also just to keep you in the loop a spec ops vtol and a spec ops team have been recruited to scout ahead from storm blessed

[supple beacon]

Ah alright well at least they will have a bit more information before their attack.

btw did we get any more logi trucks?

[sage crane]

Nay

One joined at 2 AM for me so I couldn’t convince them as they’d already joined dwarf

I even attempted to get my mate to join the game but “I ain’t got time to keep up with it” sadly

[supple beacon]

Same here, tried contacting other logi players that did not join the campaign yet and no success yet.

[sage crane]

Darn

It’s not the end of the world it just needs inter BG coordination

[supple beacon]

Yeah its going to be one of our major downsides.

[sage crane]

Downside but also a strength

It means we have the pure numbers and power even if it’s a pain in the arse

[supple beacon]

indeed.

[sage crane]

Right signing off now

Gn all

[supple beacon]

Night lad

[errant pine]

Has he mentioned anything about how the tools TCOs will have?

[supple beacon]

Not sure, but am going to use this.

[errant pine]

Nice!

[supple beacon]

yeah once the map for elim is out i will replace the map above with it.

[errant pine]

I’ll start messing with something tomorrow in case the [212th](#1382045293591134218 message) becomes a thing.

[supple beacon]

alright nice.

[oblique glen]

212th? Why that number

[errant pine]

Inspired by the 212th Battalion from Star Wars.

By name at least.

It’s also one of my favorites due to LAAT usage.

[oblique glen]

I see

[oblique glen]

So how is everything going

[supple beacon]

Well i finally got all the units and icons that i need as tac-com, what i need is elims map.

[oblique glen]

I see very cool

Is that TTS

[supple beacon]

Yeah am going to be using TTS for map making.

[oblique glen]

I should get so I can do some thing tinkering with weapon ideas

Anyway so any suggestions or recommendations on how the plan is going

[supple beacon]

Well i think we got all the basics covered, we just need to have more intel.

[oblique glen]

I wish bonus points could be used to give us that or ideas of what is happening

[errant pine]

BP has gotten us intel in the past.

We do have spec ops going in ahead of us…as in ahead of all of us.

[oblique glen]

I just hope they arrive before the TF do

Do they I thought the TF where going first before everyone

[errant pine]

Special assignment

@oblique glen ^

[oblique glen]

Dang that’s crazy

Talk about no pressure at all just everybody is counting on them

[errant pine]

🤣 right!

That’s what this was about.

But we only have 1. Haha

[oblique glen]

Dang we only have one special player

[errant pine]

I think they said 2 SpecOps VTOLs, but only 1 is active

[oblique glen]

Dang

Well let’s hope our spec ops don’t need to travel a ton

[errant pine]

Finley being the SpecOps VTOL and Mathezgreg being a SpecOps unit (who also has silenced weapons upgrade)

[oblique glen]

Aurora right

They were in the Braven campaign

[errant pine]

Yup yup

[oblique glen]

Still bummed that God left us

So what’s special for arty to go to SPG

[errant pine]

😒 yeah…but they would’ve likely had issues with changes too

[errant pine]

Refit

They move faster and do damage. But they lose the bombard. There may be other differences, but those are what I remember.

[median sail]

Less range

4-3

[oblique glen]

Hmm 🤔 high explosive ammo tho

[median sail]

Direct fire if I remember right as well

[oblique glen]

Yup

Heavy gunship don’t get anything sadly

And HVOTLs they…they’re just good as is

[oblique glen]

So we’re down to 3 fighters

Such sadness 😞

[tranquil saddle]

Noooo 😦

[oblique glen]

Yeah It’s true

It’s okay Hobo we can at least take our sadness and kill the enemy

[dusty nimbus]

I wonder how much air support we’ll be getting and how much will be tied up in orbital combat

[oblique glen]

I’m guessing a lot of combat will happen in orbit

Because you have to think like this there’s a possibility that we’ll never see the orbitals again

[tranquil saddle]

No big space since boat

[median sail]

that's the same for any meta unit, the halls of the fallen grow ever more

[oblique glen]

It’s big pal you at least have a good chance of getting the spotlight again

But you’re right that’s what happens if things go wrong for a unit

[tranquil saddle]

My monkey brain likes seeing orbital on the map

[median sail]

i think there will be a lot less individual mid-round events

[oblique glen]

Yeah

Poor captain

[median sail]

or each gm will have there own thread

[oblique glen]

That just be insane

Multiple GMs watching a specific area

[tranquil saddle]

Welllllll that would make shacks life easier

[distant olive]

Yeah at 465 active units it doesnt sound like a one man job

[ebon jacinth]

Yeah, as complex as it's going to be as a multiple GM thing, doing it solo is definitely going to be worse xD

[smoky junco]

I’ll be inactive for today as I be building a steam locomotive

more accurately I’ll be helping building a steam locomotive lol

[supple beacon]

alright lad, btw do you have TTS? (table top simulator?)

[smoky junco]

Nein

But I do have Krita

also enough warhammer to represent the entire BG

[supple beacon]

Ah thats fine then, i think i could do remote play with TTS.

[smoky junco]

Krita is a Excelent 2d Software

With its layers you can move objects over a map with ease

Also lines and stuff

[smoky junco]

even you dawn

[median sail]

shack doesn't want to use stuff from other ip's. i had offered to send him photos of dawns model to use on the tac map

[smoky junco]

I was joking lol

[median sail]

i've got a lot of warhammer myself lol

[smoky junco]

I’m not getting a scale map of the campaign printed off lol

[distant olive]

Would be fire tho 🤣

[smoky junco]

Just because I collect 5 different miniature ranges doesn’t mean I’m insane

• Warhammer
• Battletech
• Gunpla
• Hornby OO/OH
• Brickskrieg

I like trains

[oblique glen]

Mad respect for you pirate

[wintry coral]

Are we actually getting more logi or are they going to another BG? Maybe we should get some more VTOLs and the like to shuttle supplies around? Can we get any of our other vehicles to carry supplies or is it only FS?

[tranquil saddle]

TTTRRRRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNN. HEEEEEELLLLLLL YEEEEAAHHHHHH

[ebon jacinth]

I believe only Light Vehicles, Logi Trucks, VTOLs and HATs can carry Supply of any kind (outside of orbitals, ofc)

[upper harbor]

Mechs.

Mechs can theoretically carry 2 supply

[sage crane]

Hopefully more Logi trucks

We should be fine for supply each HAT is gonna work as a mobile supply base effectively

[ebon jacinth]

Really?! Nois!

[upper harbor]

Like it isnt alot of supply, but it's something. Also it's an upgrade at the store

[ebon jacinth]

Ah, ok

[oblique glen]

I like the idea of a jump pack

[upper harbor]

Jump packs on mechs allow them to be tactically dropped

[median sail]

So they can reload themselves?

[tranquil saddle]

Loophole discovered

[slate hemlock]

we had that issue in Southpaws game

and I don;t know if It was a small patch for our game only or was that added to the core rules

can always ask in the ask the cap exel sheet

Questions for Shack: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyHLFdwwWsqUwSUh0g_sQvBIUu-JjPyXSP8ZKogBgLA/edit?usp=sharing

[upper harbor]

Oh yeah, reloading is a different pack.

@slate hemlock

[smoky junco]

YEEEES

TRAAAAINS

[ebon jacinth]

Is it possible to upgrade a Light Mech to a Heavy one without having to buy Medium?

[charred terrace]

I don't think heavy is available to be bought

[real kite]

It is

It just costs 4 entire req

[ebon jacinth]

Isn't it? It's not marked as "UNAVAILABLE" in red on the gear sheet

[charred terrace]

I thought it was

[smoky junco]

my feet hurt lol

[charred terrace]

I think it needs updating then

[upper harbor]

?

@charred terrace Are you looking at V4 and not V5?

@ebon jacinth

[charred terrace]

No, im on V5

Cause I see the blue in the other part

[ebon jacinth]

Ah! That's why. I'm referring to the gear doc in #campaign-information ^^

Cause I'm assuming it's the most recent one

[errant pine]

We do still have the quad AA MBT

[oblique glen]

Okay I’m going to bed good luck you day walkers

[mellow briar]

Morning lads, missed anything?

[errant pine]

Howdy Esper, still catching up myself

[upper harbor]

Wait... you can fire all of a heavy mech's weapons at the same time?

1x light lasers, 2x HMG. evaporate any infantry that gets close

[mellow briar]

When you're bored at work so you create a unit patch for your company

[errant pine]

lol, that used to be 5e characters for me. Now I get lost in thought imagining both how BGs would look like if I could see them in 3D as well different use cases for different BG ideas

[ebon jacinth]

I believe so, yeah

[upper harbor]

So theoretically, the cheapest you can go is 5 RP.

6 if you want one of the guns being different

[mellow briar]

I'm way too invested in my company, got a whole background lore 😅 They are very invested in the upcoming campaign since it is about defending a world from invasion (how they lost theirs). On top of being fellow ice-worlders hahaha

[errant pine]

😅 I have a multi-page website coded and hosted with a custom domain for mine. Still need to add more content and make it mobile friendly...but I got super into it when I was having to remake the company using SAM

[ebon jacinth]

Me too xD

I've gone on (yet another) world building spree months ago

[errant pine]

Awesome!

[upper harbor]

y'know, we really do need our own supply ships

[ebon jacinth]

Eventually, I'll get the Green Knight on the field xD

[upper harbor]

I'll need like 2 campaigns to get Punchy-2 up

and that's just a basic loadout

just there to soak hits

[ebon jacinth]

Yup

The Green Knight is the Duke's master-at-arms and the ship's Warden, so his mech is built to fight at all ranges (i.e. I'll probably try to give him LRM, AC and melee)

[upper harbor]

sadly melee isnt actualy good.

[ebon jacinth]

I don't care xD

[upper harbor]

I mean, i'm getting hands too for obvious reasons

getting the melee weapon upgrade too. What is the upgrade you ask? Bigger fists.

[ebon jacinth]

Ah, papa bear

Although the Green Knight is a very long term project, there's plenty of other stuff I'll get before that

[upper harbor]

i'm beelining for heavy mech.

cause heavy mech

originally planned for orbitals, but orbitals get less play than ground forces

[errant pine]

I mean, if I get the 212th started than it wouldn't be Venator having it's own supply ship, but I could be running supply runs to Ziyal from Crossroads. So not a stockpile, but a flow. The Crossroads airfield has been given priority for Atlas supply shipments last I knew due to it's central nature.

[ebon jacinth]

Most fair xD

[upper harbor]

the cheapest would be like a freighter with 2 cargo bay. Which is 5 RP from scratch.

Crew: 1 Rp
Captain refit: 1 RP
2x Cargo Bay: 2 RP

the freighter can also haul our entire battlegroup as storage too afaik

another thing you can do is run a destroyer, since it comes with 1 cargo bay and opens it up for future upgrades.

it costs 1 Req anyway

or if you say balls to the wall, 5 cost gets you an empty battlecruiser

[errant pine]

You either get LS or you get BG. Once declared the a Cargo Bay is for BG, you can't have LS in that Cargo Bay.

[upper harbor]

3 cargo bay XD

[ebon jacinth]

Ah, yes, someone else's ablative armour xD

[errant pine]

But yeah, I've seen a ton of builds with different costs suggested. There are a ton of different routes that people could go and I think future campaigns will see more orbitals and more variation of those orbitals as well

[upper harbor]

a battlecruiser with no guns. Just load it up with cargo bays, drop pods, VTOL bays, and flight decks

2 heavy drop pods, 2 VTOL bays, 2 flightdecks, 2 extra cargo bays(for a total of 5, one of which is for our battlegroup), 2 Atmo-fuel tanks

Total cost: 15 split across 6 people

Entire crew is just captain and his logistics minions

If someone has 2 RP currently, and we get 3 from this, you could literally just build this entire thing before next campaign if you find 5 more people

[ebon jacinth]

That's essentially what my Gryphon ship boils down to

[upper harbor]

So you need 5 more people

[ebon jacinth]

I'm not too enthused by the orbital gameplay, I want to see it in action first before committing

[upper harbor]

also the only reason why i said heavy drop pods is cause we dont have enough infantry to dedicate to ODTs

Fair fair

[errant pine]

for BG storage, 1 cargo bay = 5 players, so Venator would need like 12 bays

[upper harbor]

Oh.

We need alot more then

we need like 8 bays?

or 10?

ah

we'll need multiple ships

[ebon jacinth]

I'd much rather get a logi truck before I commit to the orbital gameplay xD

[upper harbor]

fair

[errant pine]

60 players in a BG comes at a cost. Multiple smaller BGs can still work together while having the flexibility of being treated separately for the BG Coherency factor.

[upper harbor]

But we are the armoured fist

they are the scalpels

[ebon jacinth]

The Iron Second?

[errant pine]

Just saying, there's both pros and cons to having a large BG. Venator will be a beast for hostiles to have to deal with (PRO)...but it's also a beast to deploy without using the automated solution (CON).

In my opinion, most of the BGs were also built with the old mindset of integrated logistical abilities and being as self sufficient as possible. I believe the new ruleset actually favors BGs working with each other more than ever before.

That said, Armco is known for making due with whatever we're given.

[sharp whale]

Are we short on transports?

[errant pine]

To self deploy, yes. To move at speed 2 once we're down, no.

To be fair tho, I don't think Armco itself actually has the (non-NPC) orbitals or transports to actually deploy all the ground forces.

[ebon jacinth]

@supple beacon, inspiration hit for an alternate crest for Venator, I'll send it asap

[real kite]

We may need to organize into the actual vanguard force and then reserves

[errant pine]

As we get closer, we might be able to learn the number and capacity of the Automated Freighters.

With me starting to advertise the 212th so late, it gaining members will likely reduce the size of other BGs/TFs. But I also think that using the Automated Freighters is a requirement for most BGs regardless of splitting into smaller counts per BG

[ebon jacinth]

Very rough sketch for an alternate (not replacement, I love the Raptor Imperialis too much) Venator crest. Actual crest to the right and tagmark to the left
Granted that my graphics-fu is awful, any impressions?

[ebon jacinth]

(Damn, I should list "one-shotter of conversations" as my superpower xD)

[errant pine]

😆 I was at a natural stopping point for mine. Will do some more active recruitment for fighters (including those in BGs pushing past Crossroads) and logi units like trucks and HATs later on.

[sage crane]

Logi doc for ziyal union coming soon TM

Massive migrane

Luckily after I finished exams

[smoky junco]

oof

good luck with them

[errant pine]

If I can get 212th up, that'd be a massive help to the logi and fighter support situation in Ziyal. Allow supply flow, fighters to rearm, ect.

[median sail]

I thought the idea was you went light medium then heavy

[median sail]

Could probably still reload itself with cheese

[modest shale]

I dont believe there's anything currently that stops you from going from light to heavy, the only problem (besides a huge cost, looking at 9+ rec for a kitted heavy mech) is heavy mech availability, you've got to special order it and thats only while supplies last, (hence the X in availability) that might change tho.

I'm very excited to either go heavy myself if we win cough with ACs and missiles (eventually) or an orbital dropping light mech with melee, got some mates that want to do it tandem but well see, such a cool mental image.

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-wing-heavyarms-gif-5781797

[real kite]

Frankly

I’d just like to be able to have 2 machine gun teams

All dug in, set up with trenches

In a bunker, even

[modest shale]

That would also be wicked

[real kite]

Either that, or something to make panzergrenadier larp better

[sage shale]

I'm still sour that IFVs can't carry even just 1 unit of small supply, like bruh LVs can. And if its true that some mechs can too, like at least give us a 1 req upgrade "Cargo Rack" that allows us to carry 1 small supply on the outside... so salty we are the only transporting vehicle without supply carry...

So salty... 🧂🧂

[median sail]

You make up for it in other ways

[errant pine]

Okay after Shack's conversation about smaller bgs vs larger ones and his support for a logi BG, I'll post this invite.

212th Logistical Branch
Do you like to MOVE IT? Join the 212th today!

Benefits to joining/switching to us.

• Allows for fighters to rearm more rapidly. They are most of the AA coverage, but are limited by having to rearm after each shot. This means they are either remaining unarmed after the first shot, or their current BG is having to pull back and leave the front line in order for the fighter to rearm.
• It allows the 212th to leave the other BGs and make a supply runs
• It allows logistical help to be spread around more easily with the other BGs around Crossroads without major impact to the coverage of their original BG.

I expect the 212th to stay together for most of the campaign with the other BGs pushing toward Ziyal City. The reason I bring this up is to give us more options so we are not locked into having dud fighters.

Here's a link to the roster, please sign up if you're interested even if you remain in your current BG until we hit the 15 minimum.

[median sail]

Are you still able to give me a lift around @errant pine ? Or should I look at asking the other HVTOL

[errant pine]

I'll still be available for lifts...at least some of the time. I'm watching the Flying Shovels. If they plan to build defenses for the airfield at Crossroads than I'll leave my bunker at home.

Even if I get the 212th up and running, transportation is part of it and we'd be with the push to Crossroads and then be going back and forth between the front and Crossroads.

[median sail]

I'm thinking of putting jump jets on my light mech and using it as a option to play in smaller games. Making it a medium mech is also pretty tempting depending on how refits work

[modest shale]

Nailed it thinking in a similar vein

Can make a nice one with the req we get if we win cough

[errant pine]

With the new system, BGs can support each other so much. Even in the 212th I could carry Dawn while you were here. Only difference is I might not always be in the same system, but you have my comms signal to call if I'm not. Speed 2 minimum on the 212th means I shouldn't be far behind the call.

[median sail]

If you buy external jump jets on a light mech can you then move them onto a medium mech?

[modest shale]

THAT is a good question

I've thought that myself, personally it reads like you can use either but it does seem odd that the light mechs have a separate one

Another question for sure

[ebon jacinth]

I believe there's two separate Jump Jets items in the shop, gated by weight

[median sail]

I thought they were different because light mechs can have internal jump jets

[sage crane]

Ahem, just a point because it happened last campaign in Titanfall, as intels coming in now, let’s wait on plan making till we get it all yeah folks?

[median sail]

Whereas the other one is a pack upgrade

[median sail]

We need to see the ground maps first to have anything to plan around

[modest shale]

Yeah for sure, very exciting

[ebon jacinth]

Ah, good point

[errant pine]

Gained another member for the 212th! A "logi" LM.

[ebon jacinth]

Holy symbol of the Apostles of the Bringer of Dawn when? XD
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/9/99/Serrated_Suns_Icon.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150913195024

[modest shale]

hahaha

[ebon jacinth]

(No, it wasn't chosen just because it looks cool XD)

[dusty nimbus]

if you need some extra firepower, i'm down to join. i'll wait for it to get a little more fleshed out first, though. no need for an mbt until theres actually logis to defend

[errant pine]

I appreciate your willingness. I'll post my recruitment again in #meta-comm in like 4hrs and then start being a bit more agressive with it tomorrow. I know Armco can make due without the 212th, but I also know it'd make life a lot easier and help fighters have a bit more fun if I can get 212th up.

[wanton tundra]

If one of you could go to #1382781756989767692 and relay your current plans that would be nice

[errant pine]

I'm not allowed in there yet, but yes. Last I heard Venator is going to Crossroads and then on to Ziyal City from there.

[modest shale]

things may change with the new information but well to chat about it a bit, wait for our Taccoms to come online maybe do a poll etc

[ebon jacinth]

I second the poll

[wary sundial]

wow the loredrops are cool

F for Aurora ig

[ebon jacinth]

🫡

[dusty nimbus]

have some faith! they are a veteran SF group, having survived New Braven. im sure they can manage until we get there.

i hope, at least

[supple beacon]

Morning lads!

[supple beacon]

It's a bit rough but I do like where you were going with it lad!

[modest shale]

Morning mate, weve got some juicy new intel in midround events

[supple beacon]

Ooo am checking it now lad

[ebon jacinth]

I might try to replicate it in matte black tomorrow

But, again, that's the extent of my graphical capabilities xD

[supple beacon]

Dam okay so my prediction was right, both city's are under attack, ziyal has the worst of it and the bots has advanced even faster then we thought they would.

At least their planetary defence force is still fighting.

[modest shale]

yeah its pretty much a desperate scramble planetside wise, we've got some transports in the form of ore shuttles that can help land 72 units I think if the math was right (might want to double check that), were going to have to fight for every inch when we get down there

[tranquil saddle]

HOLY SHIT WE GOT A SPEC OPS OPERATION

[tranquil saddle]

HELL YEAHHH TRRAAAAINNSSS

Also morning guys

[smoky junco]

We do??

[smoky junco]

Yeah that train got in the way for the one I’m helping with

Blocked a shunt that was meant to happen which was delayed to tomorrow

[modest shale]

midround events, we got a ton more intel!

and the residents of this planet are killer adorable

[tranquil saddle]

Yup

Midrournds

[supple beacon]

Yes we got a bunch of Intel and the bots has predictably hit ziyal much harder then Elim.

[smoky junco]

I See

Elim is the primary landing zone then

But we can’t allow the bots to fortify

[tranquil saddle]

As our motto say Expeditio neminem exspectat

Put the fear if god in those bots

[smoky junco]

Nah, our motto is LOOT, PLUNDER, PIRATE!

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-piracy-you-are-a-pirate-lazytown-robbie-rotten-gif-15160380677926524721

[tranquil saddle]

Ziyal is probably looking like a fortress right now

[tranquil saddle]

YAAARRR

[smoky junco]

A fortress? Then it’s a good thing I know how to break one

[tranquil saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-weston-gif-24957771

[ebon jacinth]

You mean a perfectly viable target xD

[smoky junco]

My suggestion, probing attacks with artilery to weaken the defenses before a multi prong attack to overwhelm the bots beofre sending in another attack force into a weakened area

Getting behind there lines and boxing them in

Basically

• Break the fortifications
• Breach the formations
• Exploit weakness
• Form anvil with forces exploring weakness
• Hammer them with the initial assault force

[tranquil saddle]

Perfect undefended target I say before becoming red mist

[smoky junco]

Hammer and anvil em

[upper harbor]

We have a skirmishing force of 7 light mechs. We should be able to focus fire down any target we see

We can probably kill tanks if we flank them

[ebon jacinth]

The existence of those 2 lances never fails to crack me up every time

[tranquil saddle]

What does the great DOME provides

[upper harbor]

Get light meched.

[tranquil saddle]

Someone make make this an emote NOW

[smoky junco]

I’m not refering to just us with this plan

[upper harbor]

I wonder if any other battlegroups have as many LMs as we do. Or if they jave even more

[smoky junco]

I’m referring to a multiple BG assault

Have BG2 and 6 hit the initial fortifications and have another slip in behind for the anvil

Maybe BG5

[sage crane]

maybe we wait for more intel...

[smoky junco]

Just remember, there will be NO casualties in this campaign

If you take a hit you will withdraw for repair (unless your mad then go buck wild!)

[sage crane]

*We would prefer if you withdrew for repairs

[smoky junco]

if you don’t withdraw I will plunder your wrecked vehicles

[tranquil saddle]

NO ONE IS TAKING MY COFFEE

[smoky junco]

Then you better withdraw for repairs if damaged OR IM TAKIN IT!

[ebon jacinth]

Wait, aren't we BG2? XD

[green flume]

When do we arrive?

[modest shale]

after the first few rounds of play most likely

starting on the 22nd rounds will play out and well flow in when we can land, we might be able to land with the ore shuttles but thats very much up in the air, were the largest BG so its likely best we go in with the NPC transports into the city space port

[median sail]

Wich is most of dawlf fort, the rest of us will be a challenge

[errant pine]

Venator will almost certainly land in Automated Freighters which have speed 1. Which means 2 rounds before the freighters are over Elim City

Assuming there’s nothing to slow them down

[median sail]

Oh so we have more transports then just the locals?

[errant pine]

We need BG Storm and TF Fluffy (which still needed members) to clear the way so we don’t have combat to slow us down getting to the port

[errant pine]

Yes. Confirmed in TCO comms that their haulers and our automated freighters are different entities.

Though if this bit is true, you could add 5 rounds to that number…I thought we were exiting together and after exited speed came into play.

[sage crane]

oh
So we have to wait 7 rounds before touch down ;-;

See you all in a month LMAO

[errant pine]

I haven’t been able to fact check the image. It was posted in TCO chat tho, so Captain should see it.

[sage crane]

Ah I thought it was from Shack

[errant pine]

Naw, not the image.

[modest shale]

That would suck not gonna sugar coat it

[sage crane]

yeah...

Man

I just wanted to play the game soon

[errant pine]

I kinda feel like void space isn’t a “apply your speed” thing. Only reason I brought it up was cause if we are delayed, then we should start thinking about that.

I’m on mobile so fact checking is hard

[sage crane]

I also hope it's not because if so that's 5 free rounds for the Bots

[errant pine]

Oh @sage crane, Dres made a channel for the 212th! I started talking to Flying Shovels, Atlas, and Spearhead about working with them and about the benefits of logi units and fighters joining the 212th.

[sage crane]

Nice!

[tranquil saddle]

Same brother

Electro is this a hell yeah picture

[supple beacon]

F U C K 🤣

[errant pine]

Again, I haven’t confirmed…but the only correction I saw the person get was that the TF couldn’t boost to deploy early

[wintry coral]

Anyone got a TLDR on what's changed in our plans or are we still going Elim?

[supple beacon]

That's still the plan from what I get, however the transport situation might be worse than expected.

[wintry coral]

Ahhhh shit. How long until we get deployed?

Honestly, I would of thought we would be one of the first deployed because we have lots of hits and armour to hold the landing zone.

[errant pine]

Could be awhile, minimum of 2 rounds (1 week) but I saw a graphic from a TCO that suggests it could be much longer. I didn’t see the TCO’s source tho

[wintry coral]

1 week isn't too bad. If it's multiple weeks... that would suck.

[errant pine]

The TCO’s graphic suggested the Automated Freighters and TF 1 would be exiting the gate in 5 rounds (2.5 weeks) and then we’d have 2 more rounds to get from the gate to Elim City at Speed 1.

(Victorum can’t be boosted, so they’re with the NPC fleet)

But on mobile I can’t find the source that says the timing through the gate still uses your speed.

[oblique glen]

I have returned

So what’s going on

[tranquil saddle]

We discovered that will land in a month (unofficial info) and a spec ops operation is happening

[errant pine]

Unconfirmed landing schedule

[errant pine]

You see the mid rounds?

[oblique glen]

Yup and it’s looking like a Lussan incident

[dusty nimbus]

wait WHAT

where did they get that info from

[errant pine]

I don’t know. I saw it on mobile so I haven’t been able to find Captain talking about it…but no one in TCO comms has corrected them other than the “no boosting” of TF 1.

[dusty nimbus]

💀

[errant pine]

I’d be more than happy if someone could confirm or deny. lol, but I’m not able to get anywhere on my phone.

[dusty nimbus]

if thats true Shack needs to buff the LS so TFs can carry more units

theres no way hes gonna make the bulk of ARMCO get there 5 rounds later, right?

[oblique glen]

I think he would do that

[errant pine]

I keep thinking of this tho.

If we all exited the gate together, that’d still put us a week late due to freighter speed…so it’d line up with what he said initially.

[dusty nimbus]

if it takes everyone 5 turns to get there Storm would be massacred anyway. they only have a few infantry squads and a couple MBTs

[errant pine]

…now if Storm’s speed threw everything off…

But still. I shared the image so people could start preparing themselves for a delay, but I don’t accept it as fact until I see Captain saying it.

[dusty nimbus]

well, lets hope i guess

[errant pine]

I can dig <t:1750165200:R>

That’s when I’ll be on my computer next. Lol

[dusty nimbus]

how is storm so fast anyway?

how are they getting there before any of our orbitals?

[oblique glen]

Skill

There carrying everything that’s slow

So the max speed goes up to the next high speed

[dusty nimbus]

oh i get it

they have all their ground units packed into VTOLs

which move at 5 speed

[oblique glen]

Yup

The orbitals we have our speed 1-2

[dusty nimbus]

i don't think Shack's gonna let that happen. the reason they think they can get there sooner is because of this message:

he VERY clearly says TASKFORCE speed

i dont think BGs count

looks like we'll be fine

[errant pine]

Perfect!! Then yeah, only about a week delay getting to the city from the gate

[errant pine]

Thank you for finding that!

[dusty nimbus]

i was worried for a little there 😅

[errant pine]

I would’ve blown it off if it wasn’t in TCO comms and not getting corrected.

[oblique glen]

But we should be able to get there faster due to the hats

Right

[dusty nimbus]

looks like only taskforces can get there quicker (realizing now that you meant getting from the gate to the planet, not deploying. disregard)

not BGs

(unless they are being carried by a TF, of course)

[errant pine]

No, we can’t fit everything into our own transports.

[oblique glen]

Okay

[dusty nimbus]

is it worth moving some of our infantry to another BG so we can all fit in our transports?

we would need a couple more VTOLs or HATs anyway ig

[oblique glen]

No I don’t think it’ll matter

[tame mango]

Been gone for a day, I miss anything? I saw we're down to three fighters and I like trains

[dusty nimbus]

we have our first recon intel in #midround-events

other than that, plans are still being worked on, so no news there

[supple beacon]

Okay that's good, so that would put us on round number what?

[dusty nimbus]

let me check how fast the TFs are

[errant pine]

Naw. Only 2 vehicles per HAT means it isn’t really worth shuffling things around that way.

[median sail]

speed 2 is't bad

[dusty nimbus]

TF speeds:

Fluffle: 3
Atlas: 2
Victorum: 1

Arrivals:

Fluffle arrives R1,
Atlas R2,
BGs and Victorum R3

(should be right)

[errant pine]

So using that, we’d be getting to the Elim City Strategic Point R5ish

[median sail]

rounds are still 1 per week right?

[wanton tundra]

2

[dusty nimbus]

twice. tacmaps will be released Tuesday and Friday

#campaign-information

no clue how shack is gonna manage that, but good luck to him lol

[median sail]

so we have to wait 3+ weeks to do anything

[wanton tundra]

It’s alright with the new system of tac coms and such

[dusty nimbus]

?

[wanton tundra]

The first few rounds of space only stuff I think is going to work a bit differently? I could be wrong about that

[median sail]

we turn up 2.5 weeks in and then have to move

[dusty nimbus]

oh, yeah it will be about three weeks

kick back and grab some popcorn while we watch the TFs ahead of us jump into the fray

[tranquil saddle]

I fear for what ziyal has in store for us

It will rival titan

[errant pine]

We’ll have to see. Something good to remember is that our job isn’t to clear the Strat map of bots…

• Help the locals best we can
• Protect the natives
• Hold a line long enough for Feds to get there and be the heroes.

[wintry coral]

So long as I get paid the full amount and I get to shoot 1 bot, I'm happy to wait a bit.

[median sail]

it will be harder

[upper harbor]

I just realised two things:

1. what taskforce ARE we under?
2. we'll lose all investments if our unit goes boom?

[oblique glen]

I think we’re just getting some NPC convoy lift

[median sail]

yes if our unit dies upgrades and refits are lost

[upper harbor]

That's ALOT to lose.

[tranquil saddle]

Top tier advertising

[tame mango]

You know it's funny, my units lore was anti piracy operations before Armco 🤣

"Now I'm sitting here thinking what my bird would look like with crossbones painted on the side, crazy galaxy ain't it"

[obtuse fossil]

"I know, my last mission was hunting pirates in the desert and now I'm fighting bots with a pirate leader. Oh well I've put the kettle on anyone want a drink?"

[smoky junco]

Yes

[tame mango]

"Ah tea, I'll never turn that down. Cheers."

[smoky junco]

One of our fighters left

That’s annoying

[tame mango]

Don't worry, no matter what you'll have at least one : ) I'm not going anywhere.

[smoky junco]

excelent

[manic spade]

My company are chivalric knights formerly from a feudal world. Their code of honor wouldn't allow them to resort to piracy, and they would normally staunchly fight in opposition to it.

But fighting alongside pirates to save civvies from robots? Yeah, they'll turn the other cheek for it.

[median sail]

My company are mostly a rag tag bunch of young adults with way to much experience then they should have. Used to be a armored vehicle squadron of 40 od vehicles until they meet dawn and her smaller siblings in a big battle, not much survived. Then inherited dawn from her previous commander and set off for haven.

That sums up both the lore for day braker company and dawn's lore

[jade parcel]

Sentient hive of robotic repair-mantids here, with aims of building a carrier as a more stable living-hive than just stashing the primary network node in a cave somewhere. ARMCO has been designated as an allied/superior Greater War-Hive until we figure out how the squishies actually self-organize, since the usual organic aversion to robotic hives is less pronounced in a place as results-oriented as a carrier's repair hangars.

Been catching a lot of stray insults given the robotic nature of our enemies this campaign :V

[slate hemlock]

anythin interesting in the last 24H?

[ebon jacinth]

My people are actual pirates and raiders xD with the trappings of nobility, but still pirates

[smoky junco]

My guys are straight up pirates from the golden age of sail

Complete with giant hats, gunpowder weapons, sabers and a love of plunder

[slate hemlock]

any peg legs?

[tranquil saddle]

THE ONE PIECE CREWW!!!?!?!?!??!!!!!!

[oblique glen]

Good night peeps I’ll see ya later tonight

[smoky junco]

Maybe

[smoky junco]

Everyone gangster till pirate pulls out Luffy

[slate hemlock]

damm wasn't fast enough before Luft edit

[real kite]

If we’re still going over company lore, I’m just a bunch of…

germans

More specifically germans that go spot things

[ebon jacinth]

I figured, given the name xD

[real kite]

Unfortunately the only thing they’ve spotted hasn’t been enemy contacts but was that strike teleporter

If only we could use it

[errant pine]

212th Logistical Branch
Do you like to MOVE IT? Join the 212th today!

Benefits to joining/switching to us.

• Allows for fighters to rearm more rapidly. They are most of the AA coverage, but are limited by having to rearm after each shot. This means they are either unarmed after the first shot, or their current BG has to pull back and leave the front line in order for the fighter to rearm.
• It allows the 212th to leave the other BGs and make supply runs
• It allows logistical help to be spread around more easily with the other BGs around Crossroads without major impact to the coverage of their original BG.

I expect the 212th to stay together for most of the campaign with the other BGs pushing toward Ziyal City. The reason I bring this up is to give us more options so we are not locked into having dud fighters.

We currently have speed 4, are self deployable, and have a logi LM on our roster. Let me be direct...Fighters, this BG would allow you to support the frontline and cover a supply line efficiently since we'd be regularly returning to an airfield for resupply and rearm. HATs, we'd be moving in and out of active combat zones. You'd be able to assist the front, but wouldn't have to stay on the front.

Here's a link to the roster, please sign up if you're interested even if you remain in your current BG until we hit the 15 minimum.

[static galleon]

Waiit that's right we haven't heard about that thing since have we?

[errant pine]

The teleporter? Vigil has been working on integrating but don't have it operational

[static galleon]

Right

[real kite]

There was also the relic tech but

The guy who played that company has been inactive

So

Shrug

[errant pine]

Yeah, I'm curious about that bit too

[sage crane]

Ah

See you all in a month then lmao

[errant pine]

I mean...up to Storm. If they wait then I doubt we'd just have a bunch of empty rounds

[errant pine]

(this would allow our fighters to rearm and be able to support the front, and HATs to be able to control their airspace choices a bit more)

[unkempt matrix]

"-both cities have come under attack though Ziyal was first and hardest hit"

I have a bad feeling about how our attack is going to go 😅

[rancid orbit]

If both cities are hit doesn't that mean our destination is already filled with bots?

[errant pine]

Elim hasn’t been fully taken yet. SpecOps reported that locals are trying to hold them off, so the spaceport is still secured.

[rancid orbit]

No I mean like our designated area, the crossroads

[errant pine]

Ah, yeah…we’ll have to fight our way there.

[unkempt matrix]

I worry more about Ziyal than the crossroads specifically cause it is, i think, our main objective and if the bots hit it first there's a good chance we will have to assault a very fortified city (while still worrying about civilians inside)

but yeah, crossroad will likely have bots to deal with, unless they just hotdropped the cities and haven't spread to the surrounding places yet

[ebon jacinth]

Well, brother, let's hope our spoken Otter is good enough, then!

[unkempt matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-attack-otter-bite-otter-angry-angry-bite-gif-26487694

[ebon jacinth]

I hope us medics get the chance to do some hearts and minds with the civilians ||and spread the word of Dawn Bringer||

[green flume]

Wait are we proselytizing too 😂?

[unkempt matrix]

I bet at least one medic get obliterated by the bots as soon as we met them

[ebon jacinth]

I sure am! Don't know about anyone else, tho xD

[tame mango]

Oh my, quite literally the antithesis of my backstory 🤣

[ebon jacinth]

Aaaaayup!

The Lodge is basically Vikings (historical, of course) plus fox hunting on sentient beings

[errant pine]

If the fighters and logi pilots have been seeing my 212th postings and worrying about involvement with Venator, no reason to be concerned. 212th will be supporting the push that Venator is involved with. The primary difference is that the 212th will be able to leave the front to get more supply and to allow our fighters to rearm after they fire since we'll be pulling supplies from an airfield too. This addresses the 2 largest struggles facing aerospace units. We are also currently speed 4, so we are one of the fastest groups

[errant pine]

Reminder too that since BGs can help transport and supply other BGs, the 212th doesn't pose a logistical threat to Venator.

[modest shale]

while this is true Dave the ability to move ourselves at least at speed 2 is pretty important, after the push as well, we don't know what will happen afterwards, we may need to split up to cover rescuing civilians or another curveball so us being entirely reliant on you forever to move us above speed 1, just doesn't sound right to me at least for both the Battlegroups sake.

[errant pine]

Which is fair...and is also why I'm not pinging people or trying to snipe members. Being able to self move speed 2 makes total sense.

~~Venator is planning to use other BGs to move speed 2 already tho. I think it was logi trucks from Spearhead maybe and 1 Arty in a HAT. Last I knew, the HATs were largely just hauling supplies anyway.

Some changing over and fighters changing over makes sense to me tho. Fighters need the ability to land to rearm.~~

[modest shale]

Last I checked we can carry 58FS if we lose even one HAT that changes, we'd be moving at speed 1 anyway I believe to move with redwall at the start without you in BG13 and others we can cover ourselves but not everyone, unless thats changed? while I agree the fighters rearming is important us being able to function and move as fast as we can as the largest amount of players in a battlegroup and combined task force matters.

so maybe posting those messages to your new battlegroup in public chat is better espically around HATs

cus yeah its not targetted everyone plays how they want, but it is directly in this chat.

[errant pine]

I apologize for the offense caused, it was not my intent.

[modest shale]

no offense taken mate I love what your doing want to do it myself

but well

we need to work within the constraints a little bit that's all, unless I'm wrong of course id be happy if I was about the FS, if so we can shuffle stuff as long as everyone agrees, few days old now that data.

not taking into the account the extra worry of people going MIA of course but one cant account for all of that stuff I suppose

[smoky junco]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

Do I want to know?

[modest shale]

nothing that needs fire haha

[mellow briar]

https://tenor.com/view/vb-gif-25663467

[errant pine]

I still love that the SpecOps reported the Bot INF have armor and Venator is largely AP

[smoky junco]

Oh no

anyway

https://tenor.com/view/qiwimedia-house-tank-shoot-gif-2872119800321943051

[mellow briar]

How conveniant

[sage crane]

Nay

we are able to move at speed 2 comfortably

we could have our whole vtol force up and leave and we would be good

IIRC the HATs are carrying 1 infantry ideally 💀

[errant pine]

haha, it'll be so cool to watch the shells just ignore the armor.

There's autocannons too and I even your quad AA has AP

[sage crane]

They did? I am blind

[errant pine]

Not in midrounds, but the SpecOps units gave reports too

[sage crane]

Dang, what else did they find? and where can i see?

[errant pine]

They were reporting in https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382040199797801031

Searching in these channels suck, so I'm struggling to find the post specifically

[sage crane]

it's fine!

[errant pine]

Armor 1 or 2 I think it said...

It's also not necessarily all the units...they were fighting drop troops

[dusty nimbus]

have we gotten clarification from Shack about arrival times?

[errant pine]

We did, but Storm has elected to wait for support...so the deployment has Fluffle as the leading TF unless they delay 1 for Atlas as well.

Our deployment speed is, I think, basically dependent on what those faster than us do

[oblique glen]

What’s going on today I see Dave announcing his BG 13

[errant pine]

Days and time are merging. You see #midround-events @oblique glen ?

Got some intel from the SpecOps VTOL and SpecOps boots

They sent personal updates to https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382040199797801031

[wild gale]

They are well armoured and use energy weapons I think the last part is flavour but who know

[errant pine]

Have drop pods and at least 1 Strategic Missile System.

[errant pine]

I wonder if it’ll be like handheld light lasers

[oblique glen]

Interesting

I wonder if they can be flanked then or since they are armored are they lightweights without it like less hit or FS

[errant pine]

Could be similar to our PAI

[oblique glen]

True

Anyway so our metal wall will definitely work

[tranquil saddle]

I yearn for mid round

[errant pine]

They’re so good!

[tranquil saddle]

Real

[supple beacon]

@sage crane @smoky junco We should prob check up on the members of venator to see if they are going to still be active.

[smoky junco]

I was waiting on The “Order submissions” to happen to log who is active

[supple beacon]

I just wanted to check before the sign ups are over just in case anyone in venator has yet to sign up for the campaign.

[sage crane]

Everyone has signed up now

I think

Yes

Just checked

And when I mean signed up i mean unit is active

[tranquil saddle]

Ye I'm active

My infantry identify themselfs as tanks (we have one hotel missile) so yes I am eligible for venator

[supple beacon]

Thanks lad.

[wintry coral]

Are we stil l waiting for Logi or should we just accept things that can carry supply?

[vagrant frigate]

What did I miss since Saturday?

[errant pine]

#midround-events we got reports from a SpecOps team

The team also reported themselves that at least some of the bots have armor. I have a suspicion it might be a similar case as PAI

[ebon jacinth]

Hopefully, it's just hits and not full on armour levels

[errant pine]

I mean, they reported some of them had armor.

[ebon jacinth]

Hopefully not the rank and file infantry

'Cause line troops with both Armour and Hits is, uhm, pain xD

(Though I wonder how hard "HD2 bots" will Cap go for these ones)

[real kite]

This shit is exactly why I signed up for armored rifles duty.

[strong shoal]

Hello sorry been out touch for a few days is there any new info from our scouts?

[slate hemlock]

nothing a MBT cannon can't punch

[sage crane]

As head Logi blah blah I seriously suggest our logi or fighters switch over to the 212th

After seeing other BGs do the same I think it's an amazing idea

[jade parcel]

I'm happy staying here as Token Logitruck tbh; towing our artillery and running supplies for whatever pit stop the engis wind up making for damaged tanks sounds fun

[errant pine]

Logi truck remaining makes sense to me. 212th can always resupply you and you do give a very rapid response to things like Arty units who may need to reposition on the tactical map, not just changing Strategic layers

[ebon jacinth]

Protect the "little" ones!

[upper harbor]

Apparently they encountered armoured infantry from qhat i can tell

[dusty nimbus]

The bots are about to experience france 1940

Wow cool you have 1 armor? rolls d6 with 3 ap

[ebon jacinth]

They shall dread the sound of KACHOOM!

[dusty nimbus]

Do we know if our SF survived though?

[unkempt matrix]

Think report ended with them joining in the fight to help the local forces, so no idea currently

[dusty nimbus]

Lets hope our boys hold out until the main force arrives

[errant pine]

I don’t remember them mentioning to their group that their units were dead…but I stopped watching their comms.

That said, since they are fighting, they may have a chance of dying before now and backup emerging from the gate…let alone us making landfall.

[tranquil saddle]

Current objective: survive

[compact minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nIJdHn1FFE

[sage niche]

So if we do want to see what the spec ops boys up to what channel would we head to?

[errant pine]

They were posting in Storm Blessed

[tame mango]

As long as our tanks don't pull a Rommel or Patton and outrun our inf or logi it should be a fun time.

[compact minnow]

Logi just needs to keep up tbh

That's what the VTOLs are for

[tame mango]

If we still have a bunch of Vtol and HATs here I think some integrated air support could be a good thing.

[strong shoal]

That's a heavy demand to a possible not resupplyable world till we get Superioriority in orbit

The bots came in with something so we have to do deal with that

[compact minnow]

I just had a completely random thought

Are there mechanics for boarding actions?

It wouldn't be our department, obviously

But it'd be funny

Drop a tank on a battleship

[strong shoal]

Not calling you out but it's for sure gonna be difficult to keep in the demand

[strong shoal]

True lol

[tame mango]

Drop it in to a battleship

[strong shoal]

Yeah have a tank to the bay with the marines taking the craft 😂

Hope we are able to capture a ships from boarding actions

[compact minnow]

I'm just sayin':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cszU0kSnUPA

[tame mango]

Baneblade crashes through wall we've been trying to reach you about your extended warranty

[tame mango]

Good scene that was one of the more entertaining episodes at the time.

[strong shoal]

The landing is on the 22th right?

[compact minnow]

I was either gonna pull that one or the one where a bunch of AT-TEs on an asteroid dunk on a fleet lol

[tame mango]

Wonder if the light mechs can stick to asteroids?

[strong shoal]

Also the machines can be considered a hive mind we have deal with one of those in haven the bugs could be considered hiveminds tho this time their gonna be a lot more hardy to kill

Next campaign illuminates

[tame mango]

That is partly my concern.

If battlegroup yolo (can't remember the name so I'm rolling with it) lands so far ahead, even if they encounter moderate resistance, the bots can immediately call upon a reinforcement group Taylored to crush the new threat, making the landing grounds significantly more hazardous as time goes on, is there a potential that they get overrun before or as we arrive? How many tuns difference are we landing?

[strong shoal]

No idea how many turns later we gonna land but one or two later for sure

[compact minnow]

Shame we don't have electronic warfare.

[errant pine]

Storm? (The VTOL BG)

Last I heard they were slowing to exit the gate with TF support, so that’s only 2 rounds ahead of the Automated Freighters I think.

The Automated Freighters will take 2-3 rounds to reach the city tho (assuming they don’t encounter hostile forces)

[tame mango]

Hmm. Alright. There might just be one hell of a welcoming committee when we get there.

[tame mango]

True that.

[jade parcel]

Logitruck: speed 3
MBT: speed 2
If you guys outrun me we have other problems :V

[strong shoal]

If we get hope to the locals we may have some leverage of a few turns but that's a huge if

[errant pine]

TF Fluffle is official now and is the fastest TF at speed 3. Then TF Atlas at speed 2 which is more logi focused and lost a carrier to Fluffle. And TF Victorum will be with the Automated Freighters at speed 1.

[errant pine]

Locals are definitely helping on the ground currently, and the ore haulers are planned to be used by at least 1 group last I saw. But that doesn’t necessarily accelerate the timeline.

I suspect we’ll have action as soon as people get off the freighters. I hope that we don’t have any before then.

[tame mango]

As a fighter, am I going to be deployed, flying escort for the freighters, is that an option, or is my craft stuffed in a box like a "build a jet" batteries not included?

[errant pine]

I believe since Venator can’t self-deploy, you’ll be in a Cargo Hold and be “unloaded” and “launched” from Elim City once the BG gets there.

The only aerospace units I’ve seen said they could be flying out the gate were those in BGs that didn’t need orbital assistance to deploy.

[tame mango]

Alrighty understood. Assume box unless further news or events inform otherwise.

[errant pine]

That’s at least the best intel I’ve got to share

[tame mango]

Yea no problem. 👍

[unkempt matrix]

Me debating saving up until heavy mechs are available and now seeing this. Planning to, in the future, drop a heavy mech on a battleship with a boarding party. (We might die immediately, but we would look sick)

[tame mango]

Wonder if shack would ignore a single dice roll for "rule of cool" , just to let you land, then if you get obliterated in the next it doesn't matter. He probably wouldn't on basis of following the rules he made, however he may want to even if he doesn't.

[oblique glen]

Maybe

Tho i don’t see that happening the way you think

[errant pine]

He’s definitely had moments of wishing against his own dice. lol

[wintry coral]

A few more days until orders start... Are we still going to have to wait a week?

[errant pine]

Last I heard, TF Fluffle with speed 3 will be the first out of the gate cause BG Storm chose to delay for backup.

[oblique glen]

But hey at least we’ll get there

[errant pine]

If this is the case and TF Fluffle doesn’t delay, they’ll exit T1, TF Atlas and BG Storm will exit T2, and the rest of us will exit T3.

[oblique glen]

We’re all in this together 😉

[errant pine]

That’d have us exiting the gate Week 2 of the campaign. There’s about a week (due to Automated Freighter speed) between the gate and the spaceport. So end of week 2 or beginning of week 3 for us making landfall…if I’m mathing correctly.

[oblique glen]

So pray we don’t die

K

[errant pine]

Honestly TF Fluffle, TF Atlas, and BG Storm going ahead is good tho. You only have to slow down if there’s hostiles because then you get a tactical map. What we want, is for those first 3 to clear the path so that the rest of us don’t need a tactical map until the city.

[oblique glen]

Can I hitch a ride in a HVTOL please

[wintry coral]

Well, if we die immediately, after all that waiting. I'm sure a lot of people will be pissed.

[oblique glen]

Yeah but there’s a chance that you can survive now

I think

[errant pine]

It’s how it always goes. At least on this one the pay is good regardless.

[smoky junco]

If there’s space sure

But we will prioritize our own units

[oblique glen]

I’m still waiting to see if we do become a battle group so relax pirate

[oblique glen]

How do you all feel about the situation

[upper harbor]

Damn, Spec ops units arent cheap, neither is the spec ops VTOL

[oblique glen]

Mhm

[oblique glen]

Yeah spec ops gear and refitting is so pricey

[sage crane]

No space sadly

Daves taking bunker and our other is taking Dawn

plus light mechs are literally one of the fastest ground units

[oblique glen]

For now there’s ways around it

[sage crane]

Wdym

[smoky junco]

…throw him of a ship and watch him do a gundam?

[oblique glen]

In time Certain there will be upgrades to make vehicles faster

But right now yes LMs are the fastest ground units

[oblique glen]

I recommend not doing this for I don’t have any jump jets

[sage crane]

what does that have to do with you not getting a HVTOL ride 😭

[oblique glen]

Because I don’t like HATs

Tried them in C3 I’m good

No offense but them having 1 hit is a liability for the operation of invading the Elim city

And if I’m going in one I like to request I’m in the last one to go

That I can guarantee that I make it this time

[oblique glen]

This is why

Ask Dave he can tell you more

But that’s my reason

[median sail]

i was there as well

i was one of the people pushing for a T1 assault

[tranquil saddle]

sad EMP missile noises

[oblique glen]

Or dawn I forgot about that because you were a MBT at the time

[median sail]

yea me and metal teamed up

have't been able to find them again sadly

[oblique glen]

It’s okay they might be here

I’m logging off good luck

[ebon jacinth]

Not a unit supposed to be anywhere near the frontline, I'd wager

[tranquil saddle]

Good night bro

[median sail]

yea the big birds are't ment to see combat

[sage crane]

The good news is you're walking

Literally 90% of the BG is

[tranquil saddle]

Big birb make paradrop Cool

[tranquil saddle]

Uhm no you guys got tank I am the infantry that walking

But hey let me ride ontop the tank

[sage crane]

Nah you're in either a VTOL, IFV, LV, LT

One lucky infantry gets to stand in a HAT

[slate hemlock]

we have so many things that an INF walking would mean something is very wrong

[sage crane]

As we get closer to the actual order timing i'll start throwing together theorhetical carry groups

[slate hemlock]

wait if we combine this with our mech.... could the LM just ride on top of a HVTOL?

[obtuse fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[smoky junco]

Now we’re talking

[rancid orbit]

Ride of the Valkyries (mech edition)

[quasi scarab]

i'm up for carrying mechs

[errant pine]

To be fair, I don’t think people will start in the HATs. Speed 2+ ground units can just move on the ground with the BG