#Task Force 2 - Atlas: Comms
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we do have point defense, so we can counter the LRMs
hey all Paul from Venator here, if you do come over you are most welcome for an epic brawl, ill ask when people are more online about using the HVTOL to give your LMs a lift back up
The BCs have MBCs not autocannons
currently its used to carry dawnbringer the SHBT
I have two theories what the contacts on C-Z might be, while the 1st is in the assumption all the contacts are bots and the second there are some allies left fighting a loosing battle
hurts exactly the same, one hit per round
Thank you! our vote is sitting at 13-4 in favor of moving with haste to C-Z to give you some air support T7
more of a chance for fires though, and more AP. w/ the double damage control teams we can repair a lot of hull damage
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Yea, I'm very confident in our tankiness
firepower? I mean... more than you'd expect from a logistics fleet
VERY good against enemy fighters
but still, just tanking them without a possibility for some firepower to reinforce us is not good
right, we'd need Victorum or fluffle's bombers to come rescue us
but like, how long can we hold against a superior force?
I heard fluffles
Ix, maybe you'll finally get to do that boarding action that you've been itching for
just debating hypotheticals
Tankiness doesn't matter unless you can kill your opponent. Our fighters are good but there's only 4 of them. and if our drop troops are deployed we won't have much but crew to keep boarding droids off
Tankiness does matter when you have allies that can kill your opponent
or rely on our boarding party to attack enemy orbitals, but then we need to protect our VTOLs and our Marines are not on the ground
If we gotta recall defenders, we can do that with VTOLs
2PAI and 1 INF back within a turn
And I'd happily stay behind if it made you feel better
-# gotta talk Shack into adding "Iron Man" style PAI that can fly with 2 speed and recover themselves after dropping...
-# i'd spend 3 more Req on that in a heartbeat
That's up to the ship captains. I'm just some crew. I only lose 1 rp if I die lol. I'm just trying to give some insight and avoid issues with the only real source of LS the campaign has. But like I said, once the vote is done. It's decided and I'll plan to the best of my ability and hope for the best
I do appreciate the debate, makes me dig harder to defend my position
I guess we should have a 'Panic Number.'
Assign a Panic Number to the enemy fleet
If we don't have allies within X turns of reinforcing us in space, where X is the panic number, we retreat.
same, we are still a supply fleet (with some orbital drop troops) and we are going with minimal aerospace support into probably the hottest conflict zone on the planet right now
There is one last worry I have though. If the enemy fleet shows up over Crossroads instead of C-Z. But that's an entirely different scenario though. A lot of "what ifs" would change the plan.
Thankfully, we'll have a turn there just in case
If there ARE too many fighters in low orbit over Venator, we can have the Endurance drop down with its HMG to tank some damage for them.
1 turn of atmofuel
Any possibility of 212 sortie with their fighters if the Airfield gets stood up?
Are they armed already anyhow? Could just sortie anyways
That would put my mind very much at ease to have 10 fighters instead of 4 for a round
we're projected to have 1 supply left by turn 15, so we can get a little greedy if it pushes them back.
I pitched it earlier, and they seemed ok with it
That’s also without the possible supply from on planet too right?
Can they pick it up? Or is it large supply
HVTOLs can pick up LS
Ooh. Thought they capped at med
also, we should probably get that airfield a second LS. You up for a landing Perrin?
Always 
it'd be this turn, something like: "Load LS 0.5, Deploy from dock 0.5, descend to Crossroads airfield 3.5, land 0.5."
next turn you'd have the speed to catch up with the fleet before we go to C-Z (if that's what we decide)
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Hey, so manning the HMG, should I use point defense this round, or just continue as I have been?
I think just normal is good, worst we're expecting is some fighters?
Just one LS right?
Sounds good, thank you!
I hope DroesT1 doesnt take it personally if i take the scanner back, but i dont know how much time i have tomorrow, so i will submit a rudimentary order
I thought Aero's can't take off and land in the same turn or am I misreading that?
It can deploy from a flight deck, then land
but it can't take off from an airfield then land
Or take off from a flight deck and then return to the flight deck
Interesting
In the orbital test, aerospace units would never show up on the tac map as they took off, attacked, and landed all on the same turn. So the rules were updated to prevent that
may I ask how large exactly the scan large is?
Fighters were really embracing that "I'm basically just a crewed LRM" mindset
asked weeks ago, never answered
I think it's within range 1 of a target
at least, that's what I've been submitting
Seems to be about a hex but it could also depends on the items of interest in an area
this would be sort of the same size as the thing in one of the midrounds, but it is so large it seems really op
better that than under powered, I guess?
The more Intel the better
id suggest a comms intercept on one of the large contacts, or try to comms intercept this factory thing (?) to see what it can do (?)
and also to scan the other large contacts at the bottom (or maybe in the village/convoi/AA-Battery?)
just to send my ideas out there.
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@eager pendant @rapid sail We are heading into clear space, please submit your idle orders
My marines can sneak into the comms intercept
If you want it. It's first come first serve
maybe wait for c null, this was their job before, but its up to you
C Null will prob do it
Ah, fair
You wanna launch some fireworks?
I could do a hail action
You could launch the organic waste tubes of the Banksia onto the bots
Did we ever get final word if we could take the River Rats combat engineer NPCs?
I keep forgetting to ask, what ate the too types that orders are due
Yea, run that by me again?
There was a pin somewhere that had the two deadlines for orders
Its like <t:1752098449:F> and <t:1752444049:F> (Ignore the dates)
Two rounds per week
Yea
First round of the week player orders due Wednesday, second round of the week orders due Sunday
I've updated the pinned comment to include when the orders are due
Time zones are weird
those are correct
It looks especially weird from an CEST view. Discord displays these as: "Thursday 00:00" and "Monday 00:00"
Yea, I always make it 00:01 to make it clear to y'all
I suppose I could go for 23:59
to keep the day of the week consistent
I think that makes most sense, so the date matches still.
but thank you either way <3 I would not have thought about that if it wouldnt affect me
I live to serve
I added you hailing to the sheet, noble
For Omega it’s Monday 8am and Thursday 8am
just the 00:00 and some date throws me off
yea
but yeah, 8 am is also a time where one doesnt have time for this kind of stuff
gotta make sure I put it in the night before
blame our Captain for being eastern US
-# I say as a fellow Eastern US
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Tho @signal stream is always on my case so I am always fine
Beat me to it!
Do you want me to make Sam do the bumping, I could
its 2am in Epsilon shift rn, i happily give you the stick of posting the briefing again and again and go to bed. Good night <3
You can do that?
I can make Sam send a message every 30m, that's not very difficult
very based with cheese is in our Task Force
Cheese AND Shack. We're spoilt for choice, and HAVE to follow the rules lol
Maybe once every 3 hours?
we are very well staffed with influential members
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## bumping the briefing back up #1382037040438181950 message and to add my intel ideas: #1382037040438181950 message
or you mean the whole message
I'll add the intel link to pinned comment
I cant post the whole message its 2 characters too long for non nitro users xD
yea, ran into that problem
I'd rather just post the link, less disruptive
then it can be edited later
And, 30 minutes is a little rapid. Maybe every 3 or 4 hours?
thank you, its just a proposal and maybe (most likely) I have time tomorrow to change my order if something else seems more worthwile
i think 3 or 4 hours is pretty long apart, if you look at our last messages [this](#1382037040438181950 message) is 3 hours ago. I dont know if its possible/feasable if it can send a message every ~50 messages written in this thread? otherwise id say every 1-2 hours would be great
I can do 90 minutes
or before 2pm (idk should be ~8am for you guys)
about when I wake up, yea
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You make me proud to be named Sam
now it will run every 90 minutes, only downside is if I change the message it will resend it
I can't believed you're named after the ARMCO quartermaster
thank you for your work cheese
Well, that's my human name anyway
Ixen, if you make a new briefing just ask and I can update it
@loop(minutes=90)
async def bump_briefing(self):
target = "#1382037040438181950 message"
message = f"## bumping the briefing back up {target}"
await self.bot.get_channel(1382037040438181950).send(message)
So while i still vote to go to Venator, I think we should have contingencies for the possibility of contact with orbitals at crossroads/C-Z. But we probably need to rotate our fighters with 212.
What happens in the event we go the C-Z, but then orbitals show up at crossroads? If all 10 fighters are deployed to C-Z, then we have to wait a turn before doing anything about it.
@pliant fjord do we have a formation yet when moving into cross roads?
wait are orders due today or tomorrow 🤔
I feel like if the orbitals are to appear they're going to show up this turn. It's very possible we'll arrive in crossroads at the same as them. Orders are due tomorrow
Formation for entry into Crossroads
If it's clear, no worries
Made it late last night
-# kinda hope we do get into it with an orbital so I can use these sweet models
wait, are we allowed to do that?
do what?
are we in upper atmosphere or lower?
High Orbit
so rabbit & IH are in lower with their boots?
yea
okay, but we are all in upper
IH is in lower, rabbit is is in upper they just arrived in those freighters from the mining station
The Picket is in lower currently but will rise to join the fleet and have enough left over to be in upper over Crossroads at the end of turn
I don't like atmosphere, I stay in high orbit
hmm okay, so realistically we are just doing a movement turn, so i dont need to worry too much about a fighter flight path ?
We're landing next turn
Our current plans, we'll see what the groupings look like after hopefully all of our players pick one and submit orders
Not too much no, you can we're mainly arriving, scanning , and reacting to whatever we find.
where are you guys landing at?
im realizing because fighers are already in high orbit, we could drop into lower and provide some fighter support
I think we'd rather have Soteria armed and ready to engage with Venator's problems next turn
they've got one AA tank, and that's their only defense
Those two should be all we need this turn
(plus the formation)
oh and the scans
212th’s fighter wing will be descending in wave 2 with at least the bulk of 212th’s and Shovel’s HATs. We should be able to hold the sky and allow y’all to keep ready for any surprises in orbit or y’all’s aid to Venator.
scanning map EDIT: who put that Venator there???
TBD scan might be somewhere else, dunno, up to Stout
if the engineers feel comfortable being setup and defended like that, then im okay with that too. Id rather we over invest to get crossroads online since its an important part of our strategy, but we should have enough for it to be fine.
Yea, 4 BGs landing there this turn, plus Redwall one turn behind
You guys are the MVPs 
most of Rabbit's forces are currently heading towards both of those scans
@eager pendant can you resubmit with your location? Thanks
Done
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Oh, sorry. It can't be edited. It's a GM rule unfortunately. When you get a chance, could you delete and resubmit?
That work?
that did it, thanks! sorry for the repeats, not my call
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@pliant fjord If this works, I'm gonna use my payout and make the River Rats an actual Armco unit
One can only hope! Some ODT combat Engis?
Was a fun little exercise. I'd done cutouts before, but never onto a background.
Won't have enough for the ODT but yes, combat Engis
Yeah, I feel you. Sometimes I think about getting a fighter and to AA missiles lol
Wish I could like, buy a 4th FS, or some like flying around stuff.
Full Iron Man mode.
Fighters are also super cool. Been super valuable this whole campaign
Do it, I'm making my bomber squadron some
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quick question about the inter-ship shuttles-- does that mean i tally boarding twice? since i board Picket Line and then board Endurance?
Flares are so good!
No, just once. I think the only reason crewing is tracked is for boarding and orbital destruction
Everything else is all wrapped up into "any crew in the TF can operate any equipment"
sorry for the delete and repost, formatting was wrong. easy to fix, and since i didnt have the check mark yet, i figured i was good to fix it
All good, am watching a show and chilling, didn't even notice.
super rp man
we're building brand recognition
but no, really, i just want to really feel bad if i get myself killed.
lol, the best gift of all... Merch!
gotta promote Captain Shack's new line of ARMCO merch!
#notsponsored
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Just triple checking intentions for this round:
load up LS, drop off at airfield if complete, return to formation
Land on Picket next round?
Morning Atlas
Good time-zone to you too
Anybody have orders for the fighter group? (Ping me when you do)
i'm not sure it matters if it is complete or not? does it? Ix probably would know
We have a mass formation with the other bgs, You're good to put formation. You can see it in the doc if you have any input!
Aight
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Morning atlas 🙂
My favourite part of the day is when the C Null RP shows up
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Would it be better to help rearm fighters/VTOLs on the PL, or prepare to go down to ground and build some fortifications again?
Possibly getting myself killed in doing the latter option
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I mean, I think you'll be going straight from crossroads to C-Z, so I imagine rearming considering you're not gonna be there for long 😅
Fighters can rearm themselves
Sam appears to be working well
I like that the fighting has really kicked off but we’re have a chill packing up round
giving the aerospace assets of the other BGs an opportunity for r&r should still be good
do we want me to make it skip if it was among the last 5 messages
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if thats a possibility i think it would be great
@still rock #1385616625293725886 message Hey, we definitely could have got you a nicer chair, I don't appreciate this slander
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I will do that when I have time
Do we have a map for C-Z?
Just the ground. It's in briefing room
you could've, but you didn't
The ground this time I think. Pick out a pair of tanks from Venator to buddy up with for the push.
this is exactly why I will be adding the skip
Well if you had asked me I would have got something, maybe one of the other guys can find something for you at crossroads
update has been made
Thanks cheese.
Hello sirs, something big i missed?
Almost managed to bring Redwall with us.
Not quite possible
Otherwise we're cruising on to C-Z.
Oh! FYI. You can't dock and take off from a VTOL bay in the same turn, so you're gonna end up docked for the formation. Is that ok?
If it doesnt disturb the functionality of the group, not at all
Plus next turn you can load up a VIP and get them to ground.
This is where we're going
I got us a daring high orbit scout
Venator will send a HAT up to high orbit this turn. Those that pray, please do so. Those that astral project their will into the universe, do that. Those that do good wordy things, go convince shack to keep them alive.
Can someone who is going ground find a new chair for Payload?
It'd be otter sized, sir. Is that acceptable?
Maybe get like 3-4 and we can see what the engineers can put together
better yet, he can have my chair. I never use the damn thing anyway with these cyberlegs.
My marines brought chairs with them to Pioneer. They’re very sturdy
Good morning Atlas!
Final tally was 18-4 in favor of reinforcing Venator at C-Z.
We've got a very brave Venator HAT pilot scouting High-Orbit for us this turn! Shower them in love and last-will notaries. - Watch for Flyer7.
As for planning, we'll do what we did at Elim. Massive deployment in key locations as soon as we get there. If you're going to ground, start thinking about if you want to paradrop or snag a VTOL early.
Otherwise, we are at 40% orders submitted for our transfer to Crossroads High Orbit. We are not deploying. Still need one scanning action if anyone wants to give that a try.
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Morning mate about to submit mine, anything specfic we need scanning or something scanning twice?
current plan was the units that look similar to the ones coming from Ziyal City at 4421 area
great minds, yeah it would be nice to know
They're hitting 4018
C Null is com-int-ing 4221 as well, so that's probably the best?
yep lets do that, cheers for the updates
and also good morning
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Are the scanning icons new? they look great
very nice ill scan a bit more of the chat next time!, yeah thats perfect Ixen looks great
HELLO MOTO
im glad our whole like spying group seems to have one wavelength haha
are you ok ixen?
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Nice Limmerick. Love me some structured poetry
why thank you, and I just noticed a double word haha
ill leave it own your mistakes make them beautiful
but yeah its fun! like playing a life long game of parapa the rapper
A happy little accident
YEAHHHH
Bob Ross a real one
right gotta catch the train, ina bit
So guys
I will take anyone down to drop off
If you can't get down, I can try get as many people down over several turns
Skywolf will be re-docking next turn so can't launch, but maybe we should do 1 HAT paradrop, 1 HAT supply?
with the two VTOLs, that should be everyone who wants to deploy
You could do some CAS runs on softer targets
I was nervous when I joined this Fleet,
Then it quickly became the elite.
Troops drop like a Rock,
While our Fighters go Mach,
With Atlas, my life is complete.
Remind me, which of our HATs/VTOLs are dropping troops into C-Z?
up to them,
Perrin(SkyWolf) is delivering LS#2 to the airfield this turn, the other two could do paradropping
One paradrop, one Logi-reload
Are Crossroads and C-Z in the same strategic region?
no, but Perrin will have the speed to follow us into C-Z, even from the ground
I was under the impression I should put myself into one of the aerospacers which would take troops to the ground on C-Z...?
ahhh, yea
This turn we can just designate them "Paradrop HAT" and "Logi-HAT"
and let them pick which role they want when they submit
Right-o
I renamed them in the doc also
You're a saint :D
Cuz I'm aaa saint...
I'm aaa wierdoooooo...
If that's a song lyric, I apologise that I don't know it
the original is "I'm a Creep. I'm a wierdo. What the hell am I doing here? I do not belong here."
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I thought you were going for a meredith brooks but you juked and went pixies
Atlas,
Orders are due <t:1752097740:R>
We're at 50% in, lets do this!
Woo!
@tiny whale did you want to hang onto that supply to do logi-drops in C-Z for Venator? We're also talking paradropping, so either one of those would be great.
Yeha sorry I just read that - I’ll be resubmitting my orders - so I’ll grab the logi and sit tight with it since I haven’t dropped my load
Thanks, you da best
Just filled up on small supply is enough? Have they said if they need anything larger dropped?
don't think they're building anything else, but I can ask
We only have 2 minute noodles
XD
They hurt a lot less when dropped from high altitude 😔
if you drop from orbit, they'll be pre-heated
Just like mama used to make it - burnt up on reentry 🥲
Submitted 
hopefully ARMCO doesnt have an HR department
or they are going to stick AAA onto the pioneer soon 😂
You're HR.
High-orbit Recon
So we have a serious alcohol problem in our group?
its okay, we just found out the real reason why HADES never deployed
My marines have other vices
the rest of the ship is perpetually drunk, so someone needs to stay sober and steer the ship.
So, you want me to move to R&R something else again like Banksia or the Mech Bay? Or did you need me to do any engi specific stuff?
Up to you, hoot. It's a light round
what type? are they sharing?
If you want, since we're deploying behind a long line of allied Tanks, you could prep yourself to paradrop this turn, saving LCKYDRP some speed
Something like "Loading up into the Paradrop HAT"
Yeah, I can do that if it helps save time
If you'd rather not deploy, that's fine too, always need crew
I don't really have a strong opinion.
Non-chemical and it depends on how friendly people are
This is maybe 33% a role-playing game, so doing what you want to do is the goal. Figuring out what's possible is the fun part.
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Yeah, I get that. Just want to be sure I am being useful 🙂 Being support is fun for me.
totally get it! most of the time, any action you take is gonna be helpful
For engineers, I like to prioritize damaged vehicles, then you could toss down some defenses for artillery, or sandbags for infantry
we're gonna have a lot of supply, so feel free to go crazy with it
Were they apart of the gambling cohort with IH? 😂
No comment
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Briefing has been updated
Is Sam promoting the briefing randomly or is there a keyword?
On a time and checking if in the last five posts
every 90 mins and it gets suppressed if the last message is in the las 5 or so messages
Well Reaper would probably join in if invited. And your folks are more than welcome to join in for after operation drinks 😉
Balances the stress of having the GM >.<
oh yeah I get that
You're docked rn, right?
Long-haired, tattooed, and primed to POP
uhhh, if you want to partner up with an INF this turn, they could pre-board, and you could fly in the formation, otherwise, staying docked is fine.
or a medic for some Med-evac
INF is infantry? Yeah I was giving the call, if anybody needs the ride.
If somebody replies, I’ll assume they do
Otherwise I’ll just stay tight
@craggy dragon you want a VIP ride to the surface?
order: [hold] movement: [0.5]-board VTOL "Gristle"
next turn you'd unload for 0.5, and have one action to take
Time for the Hoot to fly
Where we droppin boys hoot?
next turn, somewhere in C-Z
Not this turn?
not this turn, just staying in formation will be enough. Next turn however you guys are free to land where ever you wish
-# no guarantees for landing safely due to enemy fire
-# no guarantees for landing safely due to enemy intercept aircraft
-# nu guarantees for landing safely due to rough terrain
This is Venator's plan this turn, it'll be different next turn, but it might be good to familiarize your self
Does our med bay still have a unit in it? Want to make sure we don’t accidentally drag someone out of BG cohesion
Storm's, yea. They know we're leaving though, so it's up to them to disembark
otherwise they will come with us and they will like it!
Okay posted
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So we're still traveling to C-Z right? Passing over Crossroads this turn arriving at CZ next turn?
I'll sit tight unless we have no pods on the picketline, in which case I'd need to hop on a transport
sure, you could transfer back over to Banksia
@vestal ice apologies, can't take edited orders 😦
Please delete and resubmit
Fixed it
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@light crescent @stuck mountain @meager raven @astral depot @wide quiver @wintry pawn @opaque pagoda @merry summit @vague shuttle
Hello Atlas! Orders are due <t:1752098340:R>
Crew, pick a Flight Deck or a Gun to reload
ODTs, you're welcome to crew, otherwise we're dropping next turn. Make sure you've returned to the Picket Line.
Infantry/Medic/Engi, either load up on the Paradrop HAT or do a crew thing. We'll be dropping next turn.
Fighters/Orbital Captains, we're flying in formation to Crossroads this turn.
Oh shoot.
howdy
That comes quick huh.
yea, we get an extra day over the weekend
I'm pretty sure picketline/mastermind is docked right.
yea, R.UBER is giving you a ride back
you just need to decide if you're gonna paradrop into hell next turn or help as crew/security
@twin cypress is loading me back onto the picket.
I'm already on the ground.
I'll make an order real quick.
yea, their order is already in
so you just need [0.5] board R.UBER, and [0.5] crew/board paradrop HAT
whichever you want to do
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@merry summit no need to resubmit, but you can't take off from an airfield the same turn you land on one. (You can mix and match flight decks and airfields though). You'd end your turn landed at the airfield, but would be able to catch up to the formation and dock next turn
Ah. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification
our grand admiral forgot to submit their orders... again
Yea, usually gets them in later tonight.
We should have a mutiny vote lol.
Make the Black Pearl the flagship.
/s...
Mini didn't submit? All of Pocket Line and her crew disappear like a Thanos snap 🫰
With @light crescent MIA, we need a volunteer to pilot the Picket Line, or we're all stuck in Elim.
None of our flight bays are actively repairing, so anyone from there is welcome to switch over
Shack came in and hit the "Orders Closed" himself, so I can only assume that means we're in a hurry this time.
@meager raven Would you be up for it?
Sure, what coords am I needing to get down
Order would be: Crewing Orbital (Pilot Picket Line)
Movement would be: [1] ascend to High Orbit above Elim, [1] transfer to High Orbit above Crossroads.
strategic both time (supposedly) so no coords needed
So it would look like this?
Unit Callsign: Rainer
Unit Type: Crew
Order Type: Crewing Orbital (Pilot Picket Line)
Movement/Action Tracker: [1] ascend to High Orbit above Elim, [2] transfer to High Orbit above Crossroads
Looks good, thank you 🙏
All done
Bless, thank you
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they are also part of epsilon shift and they are usually pretty responsible regarding their sleep schedule
I'm getting messages now
Like a full body message or
Just an "oops I didn't know they were open"
It's midnight in CEST, so could've fallen asleep
I got that, but it's crunch time so I'm in crunch time mode
Oo, gotcha
virtually giving you a back massage
Ah the Navy traditions continue!
In the show ghosts, they use back rubs as currency
ugh, if only virtual massages worked
Little back rub fact for you all
LOVE this show
The BBC or CBS version? Because i'm a filthy american
I would literally 'work' overtime for my friends.....
CBS for me, but it's more or less word for word with some cultural changes iirc
like a play
which is pretty awesome
Some characters are fully different, but the CBS show is incredible. My favorite bit is the D&D episode where the husband and some ghosts were playing together, but the wife (who is the only one who can see/hear the ghosts) had to act as translator. She eventually tells him they don't wanna play anymore because she's fucking tired of it. Then they leave a message in his fogged up mirror in the morning...
SHE LIED
It's fucking hysterical
one of the best silly shows out there
I prefer the CBS one too. I think certain cultural things like Flower being a hippie and Thorfinn being a Viking from the expedition that made it to North America that I prefer
Final submission FYI:
Oh my god I can't wait for the meta campaign charisma check
... wouldn't be the first time.
I did one in my first mission
Had to make one in Scrap and Scatter to use the Orbital's gun
thats my favorite part of the game IMO
I think it literally said "roll persuasion"
I'm hoping a literal photoshop job will grease the wheels a bit
i am sad, i had not really the time to do some rp in my order this round
I know, i did the hailing action last turn, but i mean, i added no rp in my order :(
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and one time, id like to draw my crew.... But i am not good at drawing
I can't do anything about Sam sending that until at least 10am EST
Heroforge is good for that
all good, I think most people are pros at ignoring chat by now
I think I can actually turn it off in about an hour, but using a shell text editor on mobile is not fun, luckily it's one line of code
How about, same link, but with this text:
"Link to the latest Briefing"
And once every 3 hours instead of 90 minutes?
Do we just assume A-192 remains in formation?
That's two lines, but doable
and just when you have time, it's really not a burden to have it show up for now
For now, yes. If they don't check in before Sunday, they're probably MIA.
yea its not a big deal IMO to let the bot do its thing.
Sorry Reaper, might lose another fighter to the giant monster that is "submitting orders"
tbf, i didnt ping anyone this round
Oh I pinged them earlier
My opinion is still, letting players who got KIA play the units of the players who got MIA
Shack closed orders for me, so I'm guessing he's in a hurry this week
I do like that sentiment, and it's what I do in my no-stakes games, but it's been explicitly denied here 😦
Wait what happens if you are killed? Do you just drop until next campaign?
I understand everyone not playing makes it easier for shack and other DMs
Seems smart tbh
So my hail didn’t go out?
Sure yeah, they don’t get booted. But they can’t hop in as a “new guy”, right?
I also didnt ping anybody today....
Did I miss it? shit
It’s not on the maps
i didnt know this exists as a possibility to have 2 units, do they also get to play two units simultaniously or is it just one is all the time in storage?
I'll add it rq
look at the sheet, i copied it in
One unit stays in storage. There is no way to have two different units in a campaign
I can do it while my coworkers make my food
bon appetit
Thanks.
If you're dead, you're dead
fixed, resubmitted
Huzzah!
Folks, I'm off to Kickball again. I'll be back in ~3 hours. If there are any emergencies, ping Failhouse (Fairlie needs to sleep) or ping me (I'll have my phone).
btw noble, i love this hailing message you wrote. Good Job.
-# and maybe our admiral is mia due to having crossed their own ship :D
Have Fun
Thanks. Getting the slogan in there was important
Also, as far as I'm concerned, Fairlie, you're welcome to promote yourself to Assistant TCO
-# ah shit. responsibility.
Ok I guess. Ill try my best
done
~~make the triple S the flagship ~~
SkyWolf as flagship clearly
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it appears we have lingering code hanging around
oh no
Oh yes! You live! quick submit an order 😂 we are just in formation. ezy pzy
Good news, I submitted the formation that still has you in it!
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"Assessment required: does adversary possess comm-layer architecture compatible with directed signal handshake? If so, define probability of controlled contact without compromise. Intent: intercept or misinform."
You wanna type up a "doing science/decryption" action next turn?
Now I see why it was suggested I switch to hailing
Future game action query. Does this unit have a desire to perform a custom action? Confirmation and first draft are required prior to authorization.
NEgative, current action undertaken is desired
inquiring as to possible actions to undetake in the future
Affirmative. To submit a custom action next turn, submit a first draft.
(PM me, or post it in the doc and ping me)
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Good morning Atlas Epsilon.
Sorry for the apparent bot spam. S.A.M. isn't supposed to post if it sees itself in the last 5 messages.
Cheese will fix it soon.
I thought there were ghost talking that I couldn't see. Lol
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you should go to bed. But good Morning Atlas Epsilon <3
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Good time-zone fellow warriors of mind, mettle, and metal.
The issue seems to be that the tasks are not being cleaned up
and the only fix for that is to restart the bot
its fine
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should be fixed now
Is there something big that happened?
I dont think so. Well have to wait for the midrounds
Alr!
-# ignore this
We should make a new briefing, even if we dont know anything new yet, to avoid confusion whats happening next
Donezo. Briefing updated. Re-posting here for clarity.
Atlas Briefing, Turn 7
General Status:
- [Mid-rounds](#midround-events message) are done! Current order turns are due: <t:1752443940:F>
Orbital Status:
- 9/19 Large Supply. As Expected. We're expecting 2 more to be delivered this turn from Storm!
- No damage. No ammo deficit.
Unit Status:
- Green across the board.
Planning:
- C-Z-- As voted earlier, we will honor Venator's request for Support.
- With no Enemy Orbital Presence, our ODTs can drop at key locations
- Our Fighters can engage the Ravager type Gunships from behind
- We can VTOL/Paradrop some support/supply to Venator's back-line.
- Optionally, Black Pearl and Pioneer could drop into Low Orbit to perform some Heavy Air Support. Pearl could hit a hard target with its AC, and Pioneer could land on the backline to serve as a place for Venator's HATs to resupply.
- Unless something crazy happens before orders are submitted, Atlas will be going Grey Mode, meaning we're not Supplied. So no repairs, no ammo restock, no healing, but we can still launch and drop and shoot.
-# (just bag-lunches, life-support, and engines) - There's still a poll about [exactly what we're doing](#1382037040438181950 message) T7, though it seems pretty clear that we're going to commit to C-Z and push with Venator and Spearhead. [This Plan](#1382037040438181950 message) sums up most of it pretty well.
GONE are the days where we can put "in formation" and be done with it. When we reach C-Z, ALL UNITS will ABSOLUTELY NEED "start/end coordinates//designated orbital" with your order. We'll be fighting an uphill battle, likely for the rest of the game.
Orders are OPEN, lets get them all in ASAP.
Thank you Atlas!
@sage perch
Would you replace the bot's meal plan with this one? with the reoccurring message:
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Also, what are your thoughts on going into atmo if it's clear?
Great! I also would have tried myself doing this, but i am not at home and writing something in discord is so fiddly
oh for sure. I've got a template on notepad
yeah but on Desktop its fine. On Phone is definetly not. (especially with a non english keyboard and auto correct)
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I was thinking it was a good target for our ODTs
If we can take down the AA, we can take that hill
Drop target identified!
they seem so large, I dont really want to know IF they can target our orbitals
They probably can, but again, max 2 hits, maybe a fire, which is something for the crew to do
appearantly the first thing seems exactly to be the case
but what is with the large contacts further back? They also could all be AA/AT vehicles
those look more like heavy gunship size?
and my suspicion for that extra large contact in the south being an orbital feels justified
but well see
They’ve got speed 5ish so can’t be too heavy
Something to scan maybe
yeah.... Im drawing a proposal this evening for next turn intel
-# and contacting venator about that, so they can tell me if they need something
i count more like 4? speed
Hence the “ish”
you want the svg file with the icons I've been using?
I'm working on Crossroads and strategic movement now
I am currently just importing the pictures in paint and drawing circles with my pen/the circle tool :)
those fast moving objects could be enemy vtols
or maybe HATs to deliver supplies to those factorys
hmm speculaas
I know what they are, future scrap
i think its definetly worth it spending a scan on one group of these
if i look at crossroads, those three question marks at the bottom, aren't they likely the same thing as the collum on C-Z?
possible, we might know more when our midrounds are done
my guess for crossroads is three of those, and near the north west, one AA en one SPG seeing they have closters of one of each at C-Z
I would love to pick out one of those heavy gunships if we manage to take a factory intact
they look kinda like they should have different stats on em too. like 2d4 or something
And are they space capable? dunno
hope so, but even if they aren't getting a limited time mod is pretty cool
I'm off to do errands and go to work, but I've got my phone and will be reachable.
Welp, that's something I didn't want to see but I believe at minimum we will need to take our those factories. Heavy Gunships sounds like bad news for all ground forces
ok, if these groups of 3 large contacts are the same as in Crossroads, these are these large gunship things
So let's imagine they're just uparmored versions of the Gunships available to us. We've got a lot of fighters coming this round but this could delay us. We could leave it for 212 if they feel confident about taking them on
I'd hate to spend an LS to sortie 4 FTRs
I just hope they don't intercept us at Crossroads.
Something to consider, do those big guns struggle against ground targets because they’re capable of firing into high orbit? They’re definitely specialized for knocking orbitals down but in what way?
As long as no orbitals show up we're still technically in Strategic movement in orbit. But it's a real possibility. That fleet Fluffle saw has enough speed (if that was a BB) to arrive in Crossroads or C-Z this turn if it didn't go out to space or hold over Ziyal
if we cant move into C-Z this turn, I think venator have to retreat or be doomed
It seems like they have advanced targeting but they are labeled as SPG. So they could target ground like normal. We won't know more until it fires unfortunately
Ah I misread the midround they’re just such large guns that our artillery can target them like an orbital not that they’re so specialized against orbitals that they struggle to hit ground units
Oh so they can direct damage them? Time for an ARTILLERY DUEL!
i think if we have to, its worth doing because of the LS in Cell'Dar can refill our cargo holds if we win at C-Z. food for thought
True
We'll have to wait and see.
looks like Elim was just a warmup with a light/fast moving bot force
theres a lot of dug in and heavy bots in these two zones
im worried about those 3 fighter/vtol types in crossroads
Yeah, we know the bots seem universally up armored. Those gunships are gonna be tougher to take down but we currently have the numbers
that was the thing i called gunship. in C-Z there will be probably many more, the signature looks similar
Does IH/Rabbit/shovel have the firepower to deal with 3 air in crossroads?
Are you talking about the wall of unknown contacts to the east? If those are all gunships Venator is in deep trouble.
212 has their 6 fighters there
212 is there too and have more fighters than us
if we are splitting our fighters, thats an issue IMO
212 is deploying into crossroads this round, we don't really have a choice
If those gunships have 2 armor (vtol 1 armor + standard bot 1 armor) fighters in evasion cant damage them
yeah, the gunships we discovered in crossroads were also 3 similar size contacts being in a formation
They have an extra LS they can use to sortie theirs to us maybe.
or we change our plan again and tell venator to retreat....
well it depends if the gunships keep going to cross roads or not
IMO we do... if their fighters are deploying, then we should consider cleaning up any air in cross roads. It will take a turn or two for those fighter contacts to switch to venator
If they're like the Gunships available to us then they can't target aero. Might be worth attacking without evade
scary with AA lying around
of course need the rest of the the midrounds, but i think its going to be risky to split forces.
True but the artillery are able to directly target them. They can do it but have to be smart.
If the situation in Crossroads has changed that 212 doesn't feel comfortable taking them on their own then I agree we should stay. Crossroads is more strategically important to the campaign. But we need to wait and see.
This is basically where my mind is at
if its just the 3 gunships... then they are probably fine, and we dont need to stasy
we should ask them if they think they need us before we commit to that
We can also do a fly-by strike on the way to C-Z
im assuming there will be some shooting that will happen in the midrounds
so also need to see what the results of that will be
yup, all pending midrounds
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@pliant fjord orders are submitted. AF should be build
So, we scanning before dropping? I don't mind if all of the drop troops flank the enemy backline together as a big coordinated effort
Scanning as we drop, I think
Depending on how events unfold in Crossroads plans may change but optimally, we wanted to scan as we drop.
Ah, a drop scan
You'll have one more LS coming eventually (it's already budgeted), likely before the push to Ziyal.
So you should be at [1 LS] - construct Airfield, [1 LS], spare, delivered this turn. Feel free to use it to Sortie 212's fighters, or sustain the field longer.
That was my thought. Drop behind the AA/SPGs and fuck them up. Let Venator take the hill, and we can hold there as long as we need to.
Do you think we should both paradrop and drop pods on the same round?
if we can, yes
Exciting
What about our infantry?
They'll deploy on the back line, and we'll try to arrange transport to the front
or give them VTOL priority so they can deploy further up
Good to know
I'm not so sure on paradropping until we know how much anti-air we're facing.
A lot but maybe not so much we can’t intercept with fighters
depends on enemy FTRs I'd wager. We can easily maneuver our HATs to Venator's back line while avoiding the AA
they'd be range 2, or 3 with missiles
we'll go 5 away minimum
Don't forget they AA is on walkers too the range may change on their speed.
hence the 5 🙂
Just to anticipate our crew needs for next round:
(7-)8 - definitely all guns (maybe without the reload for the pearl)
2-3 - Flight Decks to keep our fighters armed and repaired (and potentially resupply/repair some HATs)
1-2 - VTOL Bays to keep the VTOLs buzzing around (not yet needed, but surely next round)
3 - All of our Intel Crew (2 Scans + Comms-Int)
1? - Hailing? maybe
sum: 13-18 12-16 Crew (out of our 13 "Crewmember" Units + anyone else staying in our orbitals)
Unless Venator's VTOLs get damaged, (AND they intend to use our bays), we won't need any VTOL bays crewed
ok, im correcting it down
does someone need to fly picketline
I think C Null wanted to do some kind of hacking/communication action to learn about the Bot command structure, but I'm not 100% sure I translated his message correctly.
Only if Admiral Mini doesn't turn in his order this time.
I DID get a PM from him late last night, but he never submitted.
the sunday submission is easier for most people to make, its more days and weekend
Id interpreted it as just trying to comms int the thing on 4421
-# if you meant the last order not whats coming next, then shame on me, I have not noticed any intention for next round
should i upload the scanning map thingi i made somewhere in the doc? and if yes, where?
I have it saved, but you could put it in the operations tab
or make a new tab
you have all the power now
-# I cant upload them due to not being signed in xD, but I think the Operations tab is the right place (or making a new tab "fairlies playground" or somethiing)
donezo
Have our scans shown up in midrounds? Kinda concern that hasn't happened yet
the combat hasn't either, so don't freak out
they're technically not even due for another 24 hours
Yeah but typically the simpler stuff is done first. I'm worried ours became "complicated" lol. But it could just be nothing yet
Well Shack did laugh at my RP submission in Tac-Com chat, so there's that.
-# pretty much what I expected
Are you guys moving over to C-Z?
We hope so, as long as nothing crazy happens
The only thing changing our plan would be if 212+everyone else at crossroads are not confident fighting these gunships (do we have a codename for them)
Or an enemy fleet shows up above Crossroads
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Assuming no further hostile contact (in space anyway), what do y'all think about a Grey-Mode turn? (Don't spend an LS to be "supplied")
We have:
No air units to repair
No guns that need to be reloaded
No anticipated docking units from Venator
No anticipated orbital combat
I think it's smart to save some LS
Hopefully we can get some from Spearhead too
yea, dunno how they're gonna transport it
Especially if we need to burn to go reinforce TF1
Yeah, maybe we ask Storm to come over with their HVTOLs to help?
Ok, then ill correct my planning.
4 peple on guns (no reloads due to not being supplied)
no flight decks due to not being supplied
3 - Intel
Hailing? I dont know who to but if anybody feels like saying something, then go for it
everybody else, go get some rest, we will soon have to be ready for heavy combat!
I dont know when, but this thing got shared relatively early, does anybody know if it still gets updated? or if I should?
I'm not gonna touch that one, had a warning on it
also out of date, Vulture, Brawler, and Tormentor have been canon for a week or more
If anybody asks about a scan, we now have a page in our doc dedicated for such things
and I also advertised it in #meta-comm
-# I shouldnt have done that
-# I shouldnt have done that
-# I shouldnt have done that
lol it's ok, we can always revert the doc if some trolls fuck with it
That's Lockout the Heavy Mech
This community is pretty chill lol
He a beeg boi! A heckin chonker even
But Lockout is a Heavy Mech. Is he just testing it?
inherited from an old campaign I'd wager
i think there are some units that could not be purchased rn but got purchased some time ago (so in some sense are deprecated)
-# correct me if im wrong this is the first campaign im in
same as the Super-Heavy tank
I'm not so sure about that
Heavy mechs have never been available until now
Daytrix has been around
though
Found it. Dres said it's available but they haven't updated all the store stuff yet
ahhh
well, it looks like pulling LS out of the mine is confirmed, so, we can splurge a bit now, and then after C-Z we could settle in at Cell'Dar and pull a bunch more LS out to refill the holds
Storm has added "deliver LS from Cell'Dar to Atlas and reinforce C-Z" to their plan options
Still reasonable not to consume an LS this round if we aren’t using it
it should be possible
yeah, i agree, it just means we can spend it on other things later: strategic layer speed, more airfields, humanitarian stuff, who knows?
It DID feel like a "Continue doing this at your own risk" kinda thing
so theres a big ol scanner at the listening station eh?
Seems so.
pretty great find
Maybe we'll get to see what's at Ziyal sooner than expected
Or the moon, Tora. See their real base of operations
While I’m glad not to make the decision, if the Crossroads and Hill mine go well, we might have forces entering Ziyal in a couple of turns
I would be cautious of being too optimistic. We have not felt the main force of the bots in any way. A storm is coming.
I think Venator has encountered a significant portion of the bots’ current forces
I think they just found the left flank
It depends on if Shack arranged things so Venator got worthy opponents
I don't think we have
There is a bunch of defences and Infantry. No heavy things like tanks or mechs
A little Optimism is good for the soul. (And the motivation to continue to participate)
The SPGs and AA seem pretty heavy and it’s a lot of infantry
i guess it depends what classifies as a significant portion? this is a large bot force, and knocking them out will be a significant victory, but i'd wager there's gonna be a whole lot more to come
I'm trying to hype it honestly. If this were really it would be a let down. I don't want to steamroll the bots. I want them to be real threats.
considering how many bots were at Elim, and that was supposed to be the fartherst they have advanced, i think its safe to say we found just the left flank and theres probably an equal amount on the right, and and quite a bit more in Ziyal City.
Honestly, i think thats what we hope for too... its more advantagous if we spread the bot forces than fight them all in one spot.
Yea, we've got our backup retreat plan. Cell'Dar mine is very defensible, and Spearhead is there
Plus we might get Storm back
I'm optimistic we'll succeed, as long as we keep on not being suicidal
Nery's looked clear right? so they should be able to rejoin the front soon.
Yea, they're gonna have to debate and vote for what to do next
also where did TF1 wonder off to? Did they push to NAV L-W2?
but they're aware of the options
They've engaged the enemy fleet
Or one BC anyway
should make quick work of it
I like our 4-front assault plan
we kinda just shifted into it without much coordination
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(minor updates to briefing have been made)
(and the pinned comment takes you to the correct briefing now)
So now we're doing an all out assault
Will some people will get PTSD?
It kind of reminds me of Malevelon Creek
Drop in and destroy what moves
oh jeez, i hope we do better than that. took em a long time to clear the bots outta the creek
With these giant ass mf's just hovering around it will be easier to shoot, but harder to kill
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Good time-zone
we do have this, it does need to be updated, but it exists https://armco.jdsnetwork.com/index.php/Wireheads
I thought they lost the Creek?
nah, it was just neglected at first. Eventually it was liberated if i remember right.
It was
People really didn't like the people focusing on Malevelon creek
whaaat i never saw that, altho i only dived pretty early on. No idea how people feel about it after the fact 😂
People went around and killing other players who wore the cape that was gotten from liberating Malevelon creek, it was pretty shit 😅
I loved the memes that came out of it. It was really cool having such different experences between the (at the time) bug desert/arid planet and then the jungle with bots hiding in trees lol
It was
Just a shame that if you do quick play, chances are you'll run into a party with an asshole in it
I remember in helldivers 1, i never had any issues with anyone because i bought the DLC to have the tank that could have all 4 people in it
so you just call it in, everyone sees it, and just get inside, and then you just drive around to victory 🤣
pay2befriend
Which is what happened in my last game, saw somebody being toxic to another player, telling them to get good and shit, killing them, etc
So I shot the guy in the back, told them to get good by not being an asshole to fellow helldivers, and then they left
Yeah, helldivers 1 was good fun, I remember driving around in that tank
And like, now you have to pay god knows how much for 1 warbond or find enough super credits, back in helldivers 1 you could just get it all for £6
I should play helldivers 1 sometime
I would probably be a lot better at it now that I'm used to calling stratagems in quickly
yea, but TBF, helldivers 1 was a completely different type of game/monitization. I imagine the dev cost for helldivers 2 was quite a bit steeper than the first one.
Yeah
Though most of the warbonds are a bit eh unfortunately
I still remember the load outs me and my friends tended to go with
Had me with the breaker, then that thing that decreased stratagem cool down, then the resupply + 3 vindicator bombs
we forgot to make a vote on that or inform the rest of the squad in a way that doesnt hide behind a billion other messages
oh thats a good idea, we should do a grey mode if we can.
Ixen proposed doing grey mode this turn,
If there are no enemy orbital contacts above C-Z
that means we are not supplied, so:
no rearm/repair at our Flight Decks and VTOL Bays,
no reloading of our guns,
not generating supply for any other unit at our vehicle bays (supply already loaded into vehicles should be fine)
not spending 1 Large Supply for being supplied
-# pls tell me if I forgot something
What exactly are we doing this turn
We are mostly just moving theaters of war
we are going to C-Z, right?
maybe we should vote about it....
If its not possible to reload our empty guns and shoot them at the same time next turn, I think it will be not worth it
Because if we decide to drop some of our ships into Atmo/Low-Orbit next turn, we should stay supplied, I think.
corrected this message
Depending on how the rest of Midrounds go, we will be moving on to C-Z this turn. We would be doing a grey round this round since it would be our last transit round.
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Ah, yeah, I was just waiting for midrounds to be over. Wanna make a poll?
From Venator
to repeat the explanation above, so its together with the vote
Ixen proposed doing grey mode this turn,
If there are no enemy orbital contacts above C-Z
that means we are not supplied, so:
no rearm/repair at our Flight Decks and VTOL Bays,
no reloading of our guns,
not generating supply for any other unit at our vehicle bays (supply already loaded into vehicles should be fine)
not spending 1 Large Supply for being supplied
-# pls tell me if I forgot something
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are those HATs? cause they are going to get smacked by the AA right...
That they are
They were warned. Apparently its all part of a plan to pull the aa closer to get hit by the tanks? Im like: at the cost of 2 dead HATs?
They're like, "they might miss" I'm like uh no.
I think thats another reason to remain supplied, so we can repair their HATs (if they survive the current round :))
HATs have 1 hit and no armor.
There'd be nothing to repair.
Unless that got changed
oh, I thought 2. so lets just say RIP 
Hat's only have one hit. They're either full health or no health lol
uh...
welp
Somehow even more suicidal than Storm lol
O7 I guess
Fairlie, I'll put a link to the poll in the briefing
yea i was gunna say for the poll, im not voting till mid rounds are over. If bot reinforcements randomly show up at crossroads or something at the end of mid rounds, id wanna change decisions lol
you can change your vote in discord and the poll ends in 24 hours.
I think they were hoping that flyers would get engaged by the AA tank or something
ohhh, that makes more sense
still a crazy plan, and banking on Shack to notice that
its probably because i only got a few hour of sleep
but this doesnt make any sense to me
whose AA tank ?
like the bot fighter would be engaged by their tank, before it shot them down or something?
And they just didnt account for ground AA?
(these are ground AA right? )
okay, so they just gambled on there only being the flying AA. That sucks. How are they going to get resupplys from us?
I'm not sure they've thought that far ahead or just assumed we'll take care of it. The original request for our being here was just to provide air cover. Not sure they thought of taking to opportunity to resupply from us
I don’t get it either. Fortunately, other people’s tactical decisions are not within my remit
Our own HATs can drop into 3719 and be well out of range of those AA guns
I put the stitched image into the Operations tab
Ah, that makes more sense.
Greetings!
-# nothing at all has happened to endurance
@ Shack, here's the current briefing based on what we know:
#1382037040438181950 message
There's a pitch to send Endurance into Low orbit to help block their VTOLs, but I'd want your permission for that.
Yeah thats a negative on endurance drop. The only area it could drop to help could destory it 😄
With forced orbital targeting and focuse fire. Good chance the Orbital just explodes.
copy that
I do agree offering support isn't a bad idea.
Yea there are a LOT of gunships on the back line
I hope they function like VTOLs, and can't shoot at FTRs
FTR's?
Fighters
If they are gunships. What they can shoot us orbitals.
Orbitals for sure
Unless the crew is really down for it. You guys feel free to speak up! We can Yolo if you want 😄
the problem is, if we yolo our ships into destruction, there is nobody to resupply the whole fleet (maybe except victorum)
They’ve got a gunship that has 2 Hits.
yup, scroll down
I do it all the time lol
I try not to, still catch myself doing it
Same <3
Hey can one of you make sure to scan that convoy in the East of Crossroads? Some Iron Hammer people are thinking just go way out of the way to scout it but it is probably better if one of your scanners takes the job.
We're not planning on being in Crossroads this coming turn. We're moving to C-Z and are hoping to use our scans for the battle over there. However, that not my call alone to make.
Not while we’re in orbit
I am kinda worried they can do the Ion Cannon on Hoth thing.
We can scan once in both places
Here's our scanner request station:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hrejUl57PQz8Topn3FKS7rNhTnnSOzhJqsoLUuMrPng/edit?gid=2136351257#gid=2136351257&range=A1
Some of us are but there's a lot of itching for a fight and we have some defensiveness and can take a hit.
Looks good, what do you imagine the VTOLs doing?
VTOLs and HATs would drop off/paradrop our INF, Medics, and Engis behind Venator's line, and help the push
If we take the hill, it's a great place to build defenses and hold against potential Ziyal reinforcements
if those are ground units I dont think we can scout them as fighters, and if they are these gunship things, we would just be wasting ammo into them if they are armor 2.
so its an option... but if theres a whole line of AA/anti tank just hanging out back there, will also probably get smoked thru evasion
I thought those were all gunships, which may or may not be able to target FTRs.
They were going North iirc, so come up behind them instead?
i dont think we can pen gunships, but i guess this would be confirmation 😂
-# not for flanking, but for safety, in case they can shoot back
Otherwise, hard to say, we don't know much about them. Definitely a scan target.
Yeah, if these gunships were armor 2 is there anything that could take them down short of an AA missile?
Uhhhhhh
The bombers aren’t damaged now at least
And now we see why Endurance is staying outside the atmosphere
@plain dew
Better chance of hitting, back of the formation, pick them off one by one?
HATs, VTOLs, and Pioneer
These are all just initial thoughts to help you visualize. I DEFINITELY want some feedback here, it's getting dangerous
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Obviously my main concern is a repeat of what happened to Triple S. Do we feel comfortable that Pioneer won't get targeted by both their AA and their SPGs. I think once I see the full map I can more confidently say if I feel it's safe or not
They shouldn’t have range 5. Though I’m not sending my marines back to pioneer, just in case
SPG is range 3, AA is what range 2?
They are walkers though so their range can be deceptive. But I don't think they'll give up the high ground for a better shot
They also can't advance through the wall of Tanks
Mechs aren't stopped by enemy units when they advance
I would expect they’d be stopped by enemy fire
they're not Mechs I think; one of the midrounds said they were comparable to our Quad-AA Tanks
Cap said they're walkers
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There we go
Though walker doesn't inherently mean they are mechs
im worried about crossroads again (i havnt checked midrounds in a bit tho)
can 212 clear the gunships there?
As for the unknowns, once they move that will give a good indication of where the fighters should enter from. If they shift to the left to engage Venator, id recommend we fly E to W. If they continue off map towards crossroads id start to get very concerned, and we would need to go S to N. I also dont think we can shoot these guys in the butt... pretty sure that was just for the orbital.
not for flanking, just to make sure they can't shoot you
We can only ask if they think they can handle it and trust them if they say they can and figure out what they need they think they can't. We simply don't know enough to make the call ourselves I'm afraid. If they start to move to Crossroads we can catch up to them if we're not overly engaged, hopefully we won't be.
if we drop troops next turn, we wont be leaving here for at least a few turns tho
I guess we have enough LS we could emergency sortie
either way, i still suspect most of those icons will be the totallynotdefilers with AA/anti tank strapped to them walking towards crossroads, so maybe they will just turn around and fight venator
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Part of the reason I'm so hesitant of over committing our ground troops. But I know they're getting restless cooped up in the ship lol.
My marines are perfectly happy to stay safely on a ship
To do an airstrike at Crossroads, we would have had to do that last turn.
Else, we have to Sortie now, because you can't descend, strike, ascend, and follow the fleet to C-Z this turn.
We can weigh the pros and cons of that after midrounds are done
but right now, it seems like there's a fleet of 12 gunships in C-Z that we should be hitting as hard as possible.
It's also commit time, IMO.
We'd stay here, and push Ziyal with Venator and Spearhead in a joint-push with everyone at Crossroads.
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We'll have to leave that too a vote I think. The rest of the front is not nearly as forward as Venator and still likely need help.
Agreed
Can you make a poll about that?
Yea, should we wait for midrounds to be over?
maybe, but we need to decide soon, so venator can act appropriatly
Assisting Venator is decided lol, I meant more the grand strategy after C-Z ends or someone else needs us more.
Unless orbitals show up in crossroads ofcourse
I think waiting for midrounds is good. Especially since Venator might delete everything in range which would make Crossroads seem more urgent
Option 1: C-Z, deploy everything, full commitment
Option 2: C-Z, deploy only FTRs and two support units via VTOL
Option 3: C-Z, Sortie FTRs to Crossroads
Option 4: Crossroads, deploy everything
Option 5: Crossroads, deploy only FTRs and two support units via VTOL
Option 6: Crossroads, Sortie FTRs to C-Z
Did I miss any plans?
It'd be a vote for as many as you're comfortable with
Yes: rushing Ziyal and dropping everything
Now THAT plan is pretty suicidal
That’s what a coward would say XD
I’m kidding ofc. I’m very cowardly with my engis