Task force 1 - Victorum: Comms

[mossy flare]

You also have a lot more metal to provide alternate targets

[gritty basin]

as far as I can guess that isn't a very good sign right?

[zinc spruce]

Autocannon moment

[calm talon]

You lived through the round so you should be fine.

I don't see a second fighter wave nearby so you should be clear to run back to the carier and fix/rearm yourself

[mossy flare]

So you're actually alright they've all fired. Unless the BC manages to get shots on you, you have a chance to RTB and repair

[lyric turret]

Looks like Marines and I will be repairing

[gritty basin]

ah good

[north crown]

Ohh

[mossy flare]

Yeah, likely we'll be helping out to preserve action economy, as fighters are best to take out the fighters

[calm talon]

There is no action economy here tho? A fighter can't land and take off on the same turn

[north crown]

Wow that’s a lot of fighters I’m so happy we have heavy armour

[lyric turret]

Good thing Echo is hiding lol

[north crown]

The good news on that is neither can the enemy unless their fighters have multiple shots

Do we have missiles on any fighters to try and hit the wounded ones?

[mossy flare]

Someone should tell Shack the Corvus and Aviary have had their loadouts swapped

Is there a safe space to point that out?

[zinc spruce]

Meta-comms

[lyric turret]

Best to have the TACCOMs do it.

[north crown]

@quasi crown

[mossy flare]

Well I already did it, just hope it's not too annoying

[north crown]

We might have to pull back? That’s a lot of fighters

It looks like he only rolled for the top combat so far

[fluid cave]

We don't retreat

[north crown]

I never said retreat

[calm talon]

On the contrary, the faster we blap the BC, the less damage those fighters do to anything

[mossy flare]

If they're like our fighters they won't have ammo

[north crown]

But right now those fighters could do a lot of damage and we could lose two out of three fighter wings

[mossy flare]

As long as we protect our aft they have 50/50 chance to deal damage anyway

[calm talon]

They can't flank, so no aft to protect

[mossy flare]

They can't? Next turn? Why not?

[fluid cave]

Orbitals have no rear armor.
Fighters can attack there to garntee a hit.

It's explictily been mentioned as not flanking

[calm talon]

When was this said? Aerospace units have a rule that says they cannot flank or be flanked.

[mossy flare]

That's ground not space. I think

[fluid cave]

Go there for the context

[calm talon]

We'll that's a thing that's not in the rules that radically changes plans

[fluid cave]

Yeah, but it's not technically flanking.
Even though it's basically flanking.

[lyric turret]

@quasi crown shack still has Corvus and Aviary wrong

I mean position wise

[calm talon]

Its also really weird as it completely negates the need for torpedo bombers

[glad flume]

well shit

just saw the events

[fluid cave]

Torpedos still do 2 things.
Give you more range.
and auto start a fire

[calm talon]

The tacmaps are small enough and fighters are fast enough that "more range" isn't really relevant.

[mossy flare]

Also much more reliable on not rear shots

[fluid cave]

You need to fly over the rear where it ends.
It's not that crazy

[calm talon]

I'm just saying... Instead of bringing a unit you need to hide and defend, you can bring more units for the fighter blob (that makes everyone safer) and helps you establish air superiority. And then once closer you just roll hostile orbitals in numbers of rear attacks.

[pine ferry]

Alright, could have gone worse for the fighters

[mossy flare]

We've already seen how torpedo bombers expose themselves less and can return quicker because they don't need to go the extra hex

[mossy flare]

It's not over yet, two squadrons to resolve

[pine ferry]

True, but my squadron all survived. When I saw a 9v3 I was concerned

[mossy flare]

Yeah could have gone much worse.

[glad flume]

i feel like an autocannon or at least an MBC shot should oneshot a fighter

[mossy flare]

Based on the fact you survived I think the fighters are rolling D4s

[glad flume]

like thats a big bullet for a relatively small ship

[mossy flare]

Think of it like a flak hit, it would make the hmg emplacement less needed

[fluid cave]

Hits work that way unfortunately

[glad flume]

mopping up the fighters after the BC gets killed will take a while

[fluid cave]

We need more HMGs

Hopefully our LMs can help

[mossy flare]

Oh yeah I hope they get to have some fun. They've been so patient

[pine ferry]

I wonder if we nuke the bc will their fighter run out of ammo and go dead in the water

[fluid cave]

If they LMs get blown up this turn they’re probably not going to be happy

[glad flume]

that'd be nice

[fluid cave]

But a hit on them is a hit not on one of the Hulls

[glad flume]

im suddenly happy i got so many repair kits lol

if shit gets super bad, we should transfer as much crew as possible to our fastest ship and have them flee to another TF or smth. no reason to have all the crew die and lose the req and survival pay. Ill go down with my ship if my crew can survive

[pine ferry]

I hope that’s unnecessary

[glad flume]

same

[fluid cave]

I can carry up to 10 crew units on the Beacon

Otherwise we're all 2 speed besides the PV

[zinc spruce]

Welp

Cya

[pine ferry]

Fuck

[glad flume]

fuck that went wronmg

[fluid cave]

6 Fighters down?

[pine ferry]

They weren’t evasive

[fluid cave]

Only one set was on advance

[mossy flare]

We lost them

[zinc spruce]

Guardian squadron is out of order
I wish you luck Vitorum

[mossy flare]

Sorry to see you go guys

[heady void]

Well that didnt go as planed

[zinc spruce]

Go Kill em boys

[glad flume]

that sucks. im sorry yall got out so fast

[fluid cave]

Armor tanked 4 hits

[edgy lance]

sweet liberty. Is it just us Dagger left?

[fluid cave]

Yeah

[edgy lance]

:u

[zinc spruce]

I still get some money atleast

[glad flume]

shiiiiiittttttt

[heady void]

Valkyrie squadron out wish you luck bois

[mossy flare]

6 for 6

[heady void]

(At least)

[glad flume]

ok so we speed kill the BC and hope that disables the fighters?

[fluid cave]

Just man every gun

[glad flume]

cuz we cant kill all that

[fluid cave]

Each bullet we shoot might hit something

[quasi crown]

We have.... several times.....

[edgy harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-tisbutascratch-knight-funny-gif-9050905

[fluid cave]

He fixed it

[mossy flare]

It's been fixed in the latest actually

Just saw

[fluid cave]

But I don't think he noticed the Evaise in the Taccom orders

[glad flume]

should we bring that up?

[pine ferry]

I think we let the sierras fly on our way home and hope there’s crew to rearm repair us

[fluid cave]

Yeah

[glad flume]

cuz thats a huge oversight

if true

[edgy harbor]

Were the other squadrons also flying evasive?

[zinc spruce]

Guardian squadron wasn't Evasive

[fluid cave]

Frebird, Spades and Monarch are flying Evaisve

We had 2 evaisve wings and 1 advance

[edgy lance]

aye. I was about to suggest advancing + missiles, but then I remembered their ships are still around. Time we evade back to the hangar.

[heady void]

Valk was evasive

[edgy harbor]

Damn

[pine ferry]

My thoughts exactly

[fluid cave]

Valk and Dagger were evavisve
Gaurdian was advance

[mossy flare]

I mean strategically why were 30 something fighters floating out here at L2?

[fluid cave]

Doesnt' matter

[slow whale]

Wow I was not expecting all fighters. I guess the bots don't have many bombers if at all. Was at least expecting some of those boarder buzz droids.

[quasi crown]

They were clearly headed to A2 then to Ziyal from the wreck site

[glad flume]

tbh, while it sucks for our fighters, this is better than multiple big ships or bombers/boarders for the TF at large. if we lost one of our ships, we'd be really bad off

losing the fighters is badddd but recoverable (hopefully)

i do feel really bad for you guys no longer able to play tho

[quasi crown]

Also, death toll armco wide is high this turn

[fluid cave]

Poor fighters.
I pity your deaths but thank your Sacrifices

[glad flume]

is it? its hard for me to keep track of all the other AOs

[mossy flare]

Heroes of the TF

[outer hornet]

where is the local spot to pay respects to my fellow Fighter pilots?

[mossy flare]

We've seen a fair few deaths at the crossroads

[glad flume]

do we have a total death count so far? and what about a graveyard doc like we had last time?

[fluid cave]

I'm tracking it on the Logi doc rn

[quasi crown]

Looks like we killed 6 enemy fighters at least

[fluid cave]

Someone else is going to need to reopen the graveyard or something simular

[mossy flare]

This turn still isn't fully resolved

I wanna make those bots pay for our fighters

[fluid cave]

We need twin HMG turrets

[quasi crown]

Yeah this amount of fighters is crazy

[pine ferry]

Do we have evidence their fighters need to reload?

[fluid cave]

Not yet

[tough jay]

welp someone @ me in 3 months when this campaign finishes

[quasi crown]

not that we have seen

[pine ferry]

Because if they just shoot again we’re a little fucked

[fluid cave]

We sent a MSG in the Taccom channel saying that you were evaisve.
No response from Cap yet

[glad flume]

if they dont, that'd be wildly unfair

[zealous palm]

Holy shit, did we just lose 6 fighters

[quasi crown]

Also lol @ PV being 9/11

[glad flume]

especially with the numbers they habe

[quasi crown]

Looks like it

Also this midround for us was all kinds of scuffed by GMs

So perhaps they didn't do the evasive for 3 of them

[fluid cave]

Fighters can get attacked anywhere so I assume the landing doesn't matter unless they survive

[zealous palm]

Yah, 3 evasive fighters that were landing, so might not be hittable, or maybe they landed, and the pilots survived, but the fighters bought it?

[quasi crown]

Well they weren't shot when landing this is by PV

[violet wharf]

this is why we stick together in a deathball 😭

[zealous palm]

True, it looks like they got hit at the start of their pass

[violet wharf]

ig everyone go back rearm repair, launch everything into a ball, bombers too, or retreat

[north crown]

Oh lord good fight there fighters!

You did us proud!

[void rivet]

I'm at the gym, but my condolences to the fighters lost

[mossy flare]

I think 30 fighters just took us by surprise or we'd be playing much safer

[void rivet]

Just reead the midrounds

[violet wharf]

we saw them, right? we had the readings

idk why ppl split up

[mossy flare]

We thought it might be buzzers as well or bomber or transports

[quasi crown]

All we knew was they were small craft

[lyric turret]

We didn't have clear readings just small craft.

[violet wharf]

prepare for worst case? no?
our output isnt reduced by balling either

[fluid cave]

They could have been asetroids or other non enemy items

[quasi crown]

They could have been Logi transporting stuff to the ground

[quasi crown]

Well, each group of fighters had their own idea on how to best handle it

[violet wharf]

rip

[quasi crown]

Also, fighter deathballs are a bit rediculous to fight for any one

[violet wharf]

that's why we should do it lol

[tough jay]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-the-start-fallout-new-vegas-gif-14316695

[quasi crown]

I don't think there is an efficient method to defend against them

[violet wharf]

play ball even harder 😎

[quasi crown]

one set of 3 of them isn't on any of the maps

[violet wharf]

Everyone could've been launched at start of the fight, hit a bunch of fighters/tanked, survived, landed to repaired in the same round that the combat happened

[quasi crown]

Hindsight is 20/20

[violet wharf]

I tried to tell you 😭

[tough jay]

trying to coordinate is a pain, long given up.

[north crown]

Unless we get everyone to go only HMGS and fighters ya these fighter swarms will be rough

[glad flume]

ok wtf happened to my MBCs shots?

[quasi crown]

Lets not berate people for making decisions. The dice decide a lot of things

[glad flume]

they were ignored again

unless i missed it

[quasi crown]

Our midrounds aren't finished

[north crown]

Ya they showed as firing so shack probably is holding onto it for something dramatic

Or we missed

[glad flume]

weird to transition to another AO halfway thru imo but fair ig

[violet wharf]

yeah, just had to get my told you so in real quick

[fluid cave]

One of yours shot.
The other Shack might have processed after those midrounds

[glad flume]

it said my autocannon, which i dont have, fired. he mixed me up with the aviary

[fluid cave]

Yeah

He fixed it in the last Midround

[glad flume]

no ik, but no word on either of my actuall guns is what im saying. ig we'll see

[violet wharf]

hope we get some hits 🙏

[north crown]

Don’t think the BC made it into range this turn right?

[violet wharf]

I feel like we need to retreat now

[glad flume]

MBCs can fire at fighters too

[edgy harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204848159088709652/1348054609322840165/3dgifmaker55376.gif POV from Primo Victoria bridge rn:

[north crown]

I think we helped kill some of the fighters

Since it shows our guns shot

There’s still 21 fighters idk if we can tank this but we also can’t retreat

Cause then it’s 21 free hits up our backsides

Unless they have to reload which I’m praying

[lyric turret]

Still have the scans to go through.

[quasi crown]

Seems like the HMGs did work though

[glad flume]

if they dont, im genuinly going to be pissed

[edgy harbor]

They have gotta reload, it would quite frankly be unfair if they didn't have to

[fluid cave]

That's if they got into range

[glad flume]

nothing i can do about it but i will be

[violet wharf]

we kinda got to take the chance, if we stand our ground we definitely die

[north crown]

Not definite but we’re gonna be combat ineffective after wards at the minimum

[glad flume]

it would be one thing if they had less but were stronger; heavy fighter esq, but to be this many and stronger is frankly absurd

[quasi crown]

False, we have a ton of damage soaking we can do, and if they have to reload our HMGs will tear them apart

[north crown]

They do match ours for hits.

Would love to get the intercept on their weapons

[quasi crown]

Also even if we retreat they will push lanet side and they are even less equipped to handle them

[north crown]

I’m really hoping that BC doesn’t have many flight decks and can only reload like 4-5 at a time

[violet wharf]

burn LS, group up with other TFs?

[north crown]

Possible

[edgy harbor]

It's got a whole lot of missiles though

[north crown]

Rabbit or atlas have decent PD

[glad flume]

Exodia, I could use some PDS cover this next turn

[quasi crown]

The other TFs would get eaten alive by this. We are on our own here

[north crown]

I think the BC is gonna go 4120 next turn

To show us its broadside

[glad flume]

shouldnt we know? we scanned it, right?

[north crown]

Good question Cael could you check with shack?

[solar ravine]

Welp...

Giant bomber ball, whack the BC, then run like hell?

[glad flume]

maybe these are drone ships

[quasi crown]

We got the BCs weaons

[glad flume]

really god damn hope killing the BC neuters the fighters

[north crown]

One less HMG but an extra launcher

That’s not a good trade for us. But at least the bombers can punch something through

[violet wharf]

The bots fired, so we could chance it that they have to reload, on a balled up attack run of all undamaged aero, then retreat same round. All Tfs could group up that same turn if we wanted

[solar ravine]

And now I'm doubly kicking myself...
I could have sat behind our ships, in relative safety, and still would have got everyone but Dagger in my flare radius.

Not fucking again

[fluid cave]

We didn't know how many there were

[solar ravine]

I am a bloody luck vampire...

[quasi crown]

Atlas and Fluffle would not be helful enough to pulll them away from what they are currently doing. I won't send a request to them for aid

Updating sheet for ammo usage

[north crown]

Unless we wanna give the bots orbital supremacy we might need the extra hits and weapons

Cause a 21 fighter deathball mixed in with LRMs is gonna hurt

[mossy flare]

All enemy aerospace assets have fired. What's the plan? Hold and thin the swarm? Or go for the BC

[glad flume]

i vote the bc

[quasi crown]

any case neither of them would make here

[violet wharf]

bombers cant hit the air, and they're all armed and undamaged right now

[glad flume]

full attack on the BC with main guns, PDS tries to defend against missiles and fighters, and we pray they either have to rearm (if not im pissed, as prev mentioned) and killing the BC neuters them

[mossy flare]

Are the bombers gonna risk it?

[north crown]

Our entire plan hinges on the fighters only having one shot

But I’m all for it

[quasi crown]

Bombers and MBCs should target BC, side guns should murder fighters

[calm talon]

If the bot fighters have to reload, the bombers will have as clear a run as possible

[north crown]

Full speed ahead.

[violet wharf]

if the bot fighters need to reload, its guaranteed no losses, if they dont have to.... well

[pine ferry]

i dont think they need to reload

[glad flume]

if the fighters dont have to reload, we're all dead anyway, so i say just go for the BC

[quasi crown]

BC is holding position

[pine ferry]

look at the northern fighters that engaged dagger, they ran through to the tf like they intend to fire again

[zealous palm]

BC is holding position

[glad flume]

they might be able to reload by themselves, cooling lasers or smth, but continous fire is bullshit frankly

[north crown]

We could spend an LS to boost Victoria to speed two to try and close the distance?

[glad flume]

would explain no carrriers, but hopefully killing the BC does something

[fluid cave]

No. They could intercept on the way back

[glad flume]

it seems like its a story event basically

think anakin in the naboo fighter style scene lol

[north crown]

I was gonna say it could be a command ship?

[violet wharf]

can our orbis retreat this round?

[north crown]

I doubt it but at the same time it would make sense for this deathball to have a weakness

[edgy harbor]

Can the twisted echo provide repairs this round or would it be too risky?

[fierce sentinel]

Did my HMG fire (aft HMG of Corvus)? I would think it could if we can shoot through allied ship?

[north crown]

Not fast enough we can only turn so much cause of ponderous

[zealous palm]

To retreat we need to turn north, and expose our unarmored flank, the only way is through

[violet wharf]

even burning LS?

[zealous palm]

Ponderous means less than 180 degrees of turning a round

[mossy flare]

It doesn't look like it

[lyric turret]

Im gonna start putting out fires on PV

[violet wharf]

right

[quasi crown]

Escape is not an option rn

[mossy flare]

No boarders, I could do the other fire

[zealous palm]

Really, push forward, and fire everything at the BC, maybe it's coordinating the fighters

[fierce sentinel]

Now the question is do we think it could have fired?

[glad flume]

ok, so if this swarm has no weakness, we're fucked. I say we kill the BC and pray to all the gods

[north crown]

It’s our only option

[mossy flare]

https://tenor.com/view/started-blasting-gun-eyeglasses-so-anyway-i-started-blasting-gif-16955226

I think our plan boils down to

[quasi crown]

It did not, it was LoS blocked

[solar ravine]

It's not quite a worst case scenario, but it's too damn close to it.

[zealous palm]

Was the squadron with the AA missiles one of the two lost?

[edgy lance]

negative. Missiles are still available

[lyric turret]

Gonna need you to use those

[glad flume]

we hope the fighters have to reload, Bombers go take a run, HMGS and mechs kill as many fighters a possible, and all main guns open fire

[fierce sentinel]

ah alright

[zealous palm]

Also, the ships need to spread a bit more. In that case, I would suggest they sweep to hit the BC back, and fire both missiles and guns, that's 6 hits, our MBCs can do the rest.

[solar ravine]

I don't want to launch, but at this point we all have to.
We either go full send at the BC or be picked apart.

[north crown]

This next round is gonna hurt. Should we start repairing now?

What do you mean spread?

[edgy lance]

Will missile launch in evasive be good enough? My squadmates are badly bruised

[glad flume]

yes. any of ur crew not needed for guns, repair

[zealous palm]

Yah, start repairs on the PV, and fight fires, if bombers stay landed, they can fight fires or repair

[pine ferry]

Is there crew for rearming/reloading what fighters we have left?

[glad flume]

bombers should launch imo but its up to you

[tough jay]

1 good news, I don’t have to bomber escort anymore 🥳

[solar ravine]

How the hell is that good news?

[zealous palm]

There's nothing to land, I can check with shack about the missiles

[gritty basin]

Just asking for confirmation, I can attack through a group of enemies and land that same turn right?

[violet wharf]

cant launch and land same turn iirc

[edgy lance]

good question. I don't actually know either

[solar ravine]

If you launched that turn, no.
If you were flying and have 0.5 GU speed left, yes.

[zealous palm]

Interception+fight happens before landing, at wherever the two flight points meet

[quasi crown]

@amber dragon
@heady void
@tough jay
@timid zinc
@hard sleet
@zinc spruce

You are gone but not forgotten. Fair winds and Following seas. We will get justice for you.

[zealous palm]

That's why we lost a squadron

[glad flume]

May we meet again

[north crown]

[gritty basin]

I'm not launching, I'm already in the field and just got shot

Wanna know if I can attack and land

[north crown]

I think so?

[zealous palm]

Ok, Evasive AA missiles are still -2 to hit, but can target orbitals

[north crown]

Definitely something to double check

[edgy harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/bengal-star-citizen-star-citizen-squadron-gif-7348098768138755617

[violet wharf]

you've spent ammo, right? but yes you can land same turn, we have done that with a strike group already, right?

[zealous palm]

And no, you can not make it through the screen to land if they have ammo, they will Intercept you, and shoot you down.

[tough jay]

https://youtu.be/AFAP9O7B64Q?si=cqvyZ12nGJLIJ-V5

[quasi crown]

Yes, and sadly more options have opened up for landing

[zealous palm]

You can attempt, but the bot fighters will Intercept

[tough jay]

See this is where a sortie from other TF would be great

but eh

[gritty basin]

alright, then could I fly through the enemy orbital, shoot my missiles (Still have those) and fly through that corridor the enemies have formed to land?

[quasi crown]

They are covered up 4 strat maps away

[zealous palm]

Yah, really the fighter ball should have stayed still a turn, or all flanked north like the original plan

[tough jay]

Nah Primo Vic would have been fucked if that happened

[quasi crown]

Then PV would have taken more hits

Lets not dwell on the past yall

Whats done is done

[zealous palm]

If the bots don't fly over your path, yes, and the other hits would have spread out, not just the PV probably.

[tough jay]

6 fighters dead mean 12 hits absorbed with hits of 3+

I do have one thing to complain about

Shack messed up Valk & Guardian squad’s route

[violet wharf]

I mean, they'd still have died, right?

[lyric turret]

Ehh would have took more hits

[tough jay]

Uh no, cause the route I was suppose to go is for some reason marked red (advance) instead of green (evasive)

[violet wharf]

oh

[tough jay]

anyways will let Taccom figure that one out

Im going to finish installing this desk

[quasi crown]

It was blue tbf

[edgy lance]

What do we think of this?
Evasive order, and endpoint will have to change to wherever Aviary ends their next turn

[lyric turret]

3rd option HAT aggressive boarding action lol.

[fluid cave]

I will not be leaving the avairy

[violet wharf]

oh yrah, they're staying still, right, so we could...

[quasi crown]

I like it, aviary will probably stay put

[pine ferry]

if were evasive against a bc arent we just guarenteed to miss?

[fluid cave]

However we could try and dock

[lyric turret]

Dont worry just a joke

[fluid cave]

Shack Saulted that, so i assume it was right

[quasi crown]

Why not fire the missiles at the fighters

[fluid cave]

Msg for context

[pine ferry]

thats what i was thinking

[edgy lance]

true

[tough jay]

Also in blue is a text saying evasive, although tbf, this whole midround was scuffed for victorum, Aviary is still unmarked on the briefing map

[quasi crown]

I would launch the missiles at the northern hurt fighters as you fly ast

[fluid cave]

The Exodia could try and nose dock with the BC

[edgy lance]

'tis only a brainstorm. Evasive missiles on enemy fighters sounds good too

[zealous palm]

Evasive missiles need a 3 to hit

[edgy lance]

same order again. Text about firing on the BC removed

[lyric turret]

Think we should get Echo to start repairs on PV

[zealous palm]

Hite to say it though dagger, but if those fighters can attack again, and you go anywhere near us, your all dead, evasive or not.

[pine ferry]

and if we dont were dead anyway

[fluid cave]

Taccoms that look okay?

[pine ferry]

i can only hope their target priority is our ships and not our fighters

[tough jay]

get next to it and have the mechs jump onto it and just let it rip

[glad flume]

idt we have the marine capability to board. I advocate we kill with extreme prejudice

[zealous palm]

Lol, i don't think shack will allow for a Daedalus attack, but I can ask

[fluid cave]

We can try
But thats' Gogurt and our Marines' choice

[zealous palm]

Missiles do have range 3 though, and can be yeeted at anything in that range.

[edgy harbor]

Does the PV have two fires on it?

[zealous palm]

It does, and 2 hits

[edgy harbor]

Holy shit man

[fluid cave]

The Exoida can do point defense and cover all attacks while it does that.

[fluid cave]

You need to get a fire when you get hit through 3 armor

[zealous palm]

I'm talking about daggers missiles

Shack said to remind them

[astral tapir]

It would depend on where the BC is moving to. But i thought we intercepted it though?

[quasi crown]

Here is my proposal

[edgy harbor]

Are orders open yet?

[zealous palm]

Yah

[fluid cave]

It's not moving

Shack confimed that.

[edgy lance]

looks good to me!

[astral tapir]

Ahh. That makes more sense

[quasi crown]

We do need to burn LS for supply to reload all HMGs

[zealous palm]

I would say corvus move to 4120, give it a bit more space*

[quasi crown]

you mean 4120?

[zealous palm]

No HMGs went PD

[zealous palm]

Yes

[fluid cave]

Both had their orders as PD

[quasi crown]

All of them did

[edgy harbor]

Should I keep manning comms intercept?

[quasi crown]

Thats like their normal action

[fluid cave]

PD is seperate from manning them.

[zealous palm]

Ohh, hum, I might not have passed that along correctly then.

[fluid cave]

PD not manning

[fluid cave]

Don't bother Shack about it

[quasi crown]

Then I guess they don't need to be reloaded

[gritty basin]

and before moving we shoot our missiles right?

If so, what should we hit with them?

[quasi crown]

It was my assumption that they are always PD

[fluid cave]

It's our mistake for not noticing on the Taccom map

[quasi crown]

Yeah, I think the Northern fighter group since several are at 1 hit

[fluid cave]

HMGs can do PD, but then they cant' hurt fighters

Which do we want?

[quasi crown]

ah

[zealous palm]

Ok, let's hope that no bots fly over the path.

[fluid cave]

I think

Maybe I'm wrong on that

[lyric turret]

We gotta clear the skies for the bombers.

[edgy harbor]

Anyone gonna fight the fires aboard PV? If I gotta, I can switch from comms to fire fighting

[fluid cave]

They can

[zealous palm]

As for missile target, either some of the northern fighters, or the BC but the BC would need to be from the rear to not hit armor, so really the northern fighters.

[fluid cave]

PD was allowed to attack a fighter

[lyric turret]

Me and @mossy flare were gonna but might change depending on boarding actions

[zealous palm]

Ok, orders here are due Sunday night, tac-com orders are due Monday night.

[tough jay]

Gonna haunt the deck of the Aviary now for eternity

[zealous palm]

If we get ours in Saturday, I'll submit the map Sunday morning for early mid-rounds

[fluid cave]

If we want to try to board I can scan for unit counts

[quasi crown]

We have no boarding capability

Need Vtol or breaching pods

[edgy harbor]

So which two squadrons did we lose?

[quasi crown]

everything but dagger

[edgy harbor]

As in what were their names (of the two we just lost)

[quasi crown]

guardian & valkyrie

[astral tapir]

Since they aren't moving, could the Exodia not pull up and attempt to dock? We also have Graves who could try to breach the doors if needed.

[quasi crown]

I think Shack specified that it has to be disabled not just not moving to dock

[fluid cave]

He said disabled and immobile are different

Orbital Forced Docking - Hostile ship must not have moved this round or have its engines disabled from the start of the round. Orbital must come along its port or starboard side to dock.

This is the rules on boarding from the book

Shoot, port or starboard side

[quasi crown]

Ah also we will be nose-nose

[fluid cave]

We can't make it there

[astral tapir]

We could pull alongside the front of it's port side but it would depend on how lenient Shack is with the movement if that would work.

[quasi crown]

I'm going to hazard a guess that he would think that is being too gamey

Also we will be flying through the swarm so we may have to deal with boarders

[timid zinc]

So we all dead? That's disappointing

[timid zinc]

Meh

Does one still get a pay out when one dies or is it just a 0?

If 0, I guess I can't play anymore cause I'm broke

[quasi crown]

4 req if we succeed the mission

[timid zinc]

Ah, that's something at least 🤷
Guess I'll never play fighter again
Cause this was a huge disappointment

[quasi crown]

could be worse, could have been the infantry that died in their transport

[mossy flare]

A learning experience. I learnt that fighters should never not be evasive

[timid zinc]

Like that would have helped lol

[tough jay]

Isn’t it 5 req? the 1 normally used to get another unit

[timid zinc]

And even if so
'fighers always gotta nerf themselves to half hits so they maybe don't die' seems like a rules issue

[mossy flare]

The first squadron went 3v9 and survived thanks to evasive. It would have helped

[timid zinc]

I'm just salty
Guess I'll leave chat

[quasi crown]

Also sometimes the rolls are just not in your favor

[mossy flare]

I'm with you not playing fighter again if you didn't enjoy it though

[slow whale]

Man I got enough paranormal stuff happening already. My name is just gone now. All that's left is there to be two of me and I'll be a verified FOXBAT.

[quasi crown]

There was so much skuff in the mid rounds for us

[timid zinc]

Well didn't get to do anything fightery. Just died. So nah, not really

[tough jay]

You say that as if I didn’t attempt to with Valk and had a 50% chance it may have been ignored by shack

[edgy lance]

I was promised five req!

[quasi crown]

I thought it was 4 req for the dead and mia

[slow whale]

True we've been a bit buggy from the get go. Misspelled name, swapped loadouts, swapped positions, name gone, missing our freighter. Too be expected with hundreds of orders.

[edgy harbor]

Wait, does coms intercept also include information about any intention to do stuff such as attack or fire missiles?

[tough jay]

It’s 4 after using 1 on getting another basic unit

[quasi crown]

ohhh

that makes sense

[quasi crown]

does not seem to

[edgy harbor]

Dang

[halcyon dew]

Me reading the midrounds and this chat. Big 🇫 to our lost fighters, you will be remembered!

[mossy flare]

It's 5 req then -1 to buy back your unit. If you want to swap maybe that means 5-1 for whatever you pick.

But compared to the survivors you get 4 req for upgrades rather than 5

[timid zinc]

We died as we lived. Achieving nothing being way cooler then ships

[halcyon dew]

You can still say that you achieved more than me so far, my ship has been on a cruise lol

Saw it flash by a couple of times, wanna have the Echo come by and repair the PV?

[edgy harbor]

We need to take that bc out this upcoming round, for I'm pretty sure we are going to see the bot battleship show up in the round after that if it's coming our way.

[quasi crown]

I think echo should repair PV because 2 people are needed to fight fires and we still need all the guns we can have manned be manned

[edgy harbor]

Can the echo extinguish fires?

[calm talon]

pretty sure no

[quasi crown]

I would assume no

[edgy harbor]

Damn, oh well

[fluid cave]

it's 4 + 1 if you live.
That missing req is not used to rebuy a unit

[void rivet]

RP Post - @edgy lance

[edgy harbor]

The mood in the rp section of my orders has truly shifted, not a single mention of chimichangas...

[dusky dagger]

so did i actualy shoot my gun or what?

[edgy harbor]

In turn, Tanc a Lelek has been slowly getting louder and louder in the background

[quasi crown]

You did! You hit a fighter

[dusky dagger]

Nice did it die

[quasi crown]

No lol

they have 2 hits

[dusky dagger]

but its a fighter and im shooting a big honking space gun

[quasi crown]

I feel like its kinda weird but at least he let us shoot them with beeg gun

[dusky dagger]

yes i supose thats beter than doing nothing

is thare anything in particular that needs to die in the comming round?

[glad flume]

the BC

[edgy harbor]

And as many fighters as possible

But mainly, the BC

[dusky dagger]

got it if you can point the ship in the right direction ill do the shooting

[warped mirage]

Sooo. How’s it going?

[solar ravine]

Subdued Panic, I'd say.

[warped mirage]

Not too bad then

[dusky dagger]

they have allot of fighter like allot allot

[warped mirage]

They do seem to have those

Id take em all on but I’m tied down on planet 💅

[solar ravine]

Well... we just lost 50% of our fighters (which is ~40% of our AA capability if I'm not completely off).

And I'm kicking myself again because I could have significantly blunted that blow.

[warped mirage]

How so?

[solar ravine]

I have flares.

[void rivet]

Flares ?

looks through papers

[solar ravine]

+1 defense to all aero in range 1

[void rivet]

OH FUCK

WHY DIDNT YOU POP THOSES FLARES ?!

[solar ravine]

potentially including orbitals.

[void rivet]

because hindsight 20/20

that's okay.

I ain't blaming no one on this task force today, I'm just here to see my boy fatty_mcfatfat & Arkell/Mage.

You guys did what you thought was best at the time.

[solar ravine]

I saw 20+ unknown blips and the fighters splitting up... did not want to be outnumbered by that much.

[void rivet]

I honnestly thought all 20 of thoses were fighters

...but I wasn't in victorum so lol

[hard sleet]

I just got into the airport and saw the mid rounds. @zinc spruce @timid zinc it has been an honor to fly in Guardian with you all.

[zinc spruce]

[void rivet]

I will forward this here for you guys

[void rivet]

Arkell I see thoses sneaky reacts, get me an RP answer ! 🤣

[tough jay]

dead is dead, don’t be a bitch

[void rivet]

ay, to everyone their own

[edgy lance]

Ackh, you caught me

[edgy lance]

RP Post - 'Mage, Long Caster! I read you loud and clear! We're taking heavy fire, retreating back to the Aviary, over!'

[solar ravine]

Correction, looked at the map again, we are down 67% of our fighters.
Shack did a Foxbat and has Dagger in the 'landed' area as well.

[void rivet]

hehehe

[solar ravine]

Also, how does this look for a bomber flightpath?
We could swing further north, but this hopefully lets the bot fighters be distracted by our orbitals.

[covert palm]

can someone catch me up on what we are doing?

[tough jay]

Victorum being crippled without even facing that Battleship Fleet means the rest of the TF are cooked

[covert palm]

i'm sorry we're what

[tough jay]

Not crippled yet

But bot fighters hasn’t shown a tendency to need to reload so…

[covert palm]

oh

[calm talon]

to be fair the first time around they didn't exactly live long enough to need reloading

or at least their carrier didn't

[tough jay]

20 More potential Hits Incoming Orbitals

[glad flume]

Look at it this way, if they dont have to reload, we were fucked from the beginning, and nothing wouldve changed that. so either they do, and we'll be meh, or they dont, and we're dead.

[void rivet]

RP Post - @gritty basin @pine ferry

I swear, I had to redo this twice because I fcked up on one space & the callsigns. 🤣

I hope this doesn't bother y'alls planning, I just find this really fun to do :)

[covert palm]

ok so from what i can tell our aerospace has been halved and theres infinity fighters?

[tough jay]

2/3rd

[edgy lance]

Wait, that wasn't just an ingame screenshot? That's pretty cool

[void rivet]

YUHUH, that was an edit !

[solar ravine]

The problem with trying to strike the BC is that our orbis need to divert some firepower to the fighters.
That means us bombers have to launch to kill the BC.
And, as cruel as it sounds, you orbitals are better at tanking than us bombers.

[void rivet]

Happy you didn't see my patchwork behind to clear the sky, and the little blur to make the added text match the already blurry "AWACS Long Caster" :P

[tough jay]

counting bombers, 40% just and disappeared

Anyways if our tf dies, at least kill a majority of these guys, let em roam free and they’ll terrorize other TFs & BGs

[covert palm]

is there anything I can do to help?

[hard sleet]

It is what it is. We where the only dedicated orbital combat TF

[covert palm]

is anyone using the aviary's autocannon yet?

[quasi crown]

no

[quasi crown]

That looks good to me

[rapid sorrel]

Man, I just woke up, did we just catch their equivalent of the Aviary?

[quasi crown]

No, it was an all fighter version of stormblessed lol

30 damn fighters

[rapid sorrel]

Goddamn, R.I.P. that "no taskforce of pure fighters" rule XD

(For legal reasons that's a joke)

[quasi crown]

haha right?

but yeah, we lost 6 out of 9 of our fighters

[rapid sorrel]

If only we had a dedicated picket ship

[quasi crown]

yeahhhh

[rapid sorrel]

With 2 hits down ready, I fear Victori's death will be via a thousand paper cuts

[quasi crown]

but even hmg isn't great at killing fighters

My proposed movement

[rapid sorrel]

I guess our best bet is to hope they run out of ammo XD

[edgy harbor]

im gonna be unhappy if the bot fighters have infinite ammo

https://tenor.com/view/mgs2-solid-snake-metal-gear-solid2-metal-gear-solid-mgs-gif-27578347

[zealous palm]

I still say the Corvus should go to 4120 instead of 4020

[quasi crown]

either is fine, but having her behind the fleet was so her hmg could be used

[rapid sorrel]

I can go 4020 to try to make myself the target of the BC

[halcyon spire]

Ah, good morning. Holy...

[zealous palm]

Though if Exodia is pushing all the way into 4121, it might block some shots from behind it

[rapid sorrel]

The shit, has, inevitably, hit the fan

This is probably the worst fight we could have foumd ourselves in

[zealous palm]

Exodia might actually be able to push all the way to 4220 if it wanted to.

[quasi crown]

I chose the location so you could angle for 3 MBCs at it

[rapid sorrel]

FWRD and PORT?

[halcyon spire]

Yeah, how dare they pull of the trick we wanted to pull off.

[zealous palm]

I'm also considering if it would be beneficial to pump 1 LS, so the BC's can move 3, and the PV can move 2

[quasi crown]

That would be 3 movement

[rapid sorrel]

Also, am I on fire?

[quasi crown]

Ah yeah

yes

You have 2 fires

[rapid sorrel]

I thought so

[quasi crown]

1 erson fighting them so far

[zealous palm]

4121/4120 boarder, might be 2 movement, since their on the edge of where they are right now

[halcyon spire]

Both hits caused a fire, the dice did not roll well for us. 😅

[zealous palm]

yah sky is fighting them, and Uturn was going to also

[quasi crown]

if we do an LS speed burn then we could do a docking and boarding action

[halcyon dew]

The Echo can restore one hit point to the PV, Mancer

[rapid sorrel]

We'd need to disable it first

[halcyon spire]

The PV does have 2 repair kits available.

[quasi crown]

no, the first line states that if it didn't move

[halcyon dew]

Of course, it depends on what the PV's crew wants to do. I guess focussing on fire power is prio #1 right now

[rapid sorrel]

We should wait on that until after this fight, but I like that optimism

[zealous palm]

yah, that's why I'm pushing for a LS speed burn, we can have PV go to 4121, Corvus to 4220, and Exodia to 4221, blocking in the BC

[halcyon spire]

I didn't know that, cool/

[zealous palm]

It's holding steady this turn, shack said so, so it's boarable

[rapid sorrel]

PV going for a hail mary boarding op would be fucking hilarious

[zealous palm]

boarding is from the side only

[halcyon dew]

Also true. You have 9 hits after all lol

[quasi crown]

The fear is that makes our rear armor very oen

[zealous palm]

but the LM's might be able to board, or cut a hole open

the rear armor is already vulerable, the fighters, if they can shoot again, can already fly around us

[halcyon spire]

And we still have repair kits on the PV. :D

[rapid sorrel]

The fighters are already behind me at this point

[halcyon spire]

Also wasn't there some rule that fighters can't flank?

[quasi crown]

yeah, ut echo healing would allow more eole to focus on fighting fires and shooting

[zealous palm]

cant flank, but orbitals have no armor to the rear

[halcyon spire]

True.

[quasi crown]

can't flank ground targets

[rapid sorrel]

If we burn LS to put me at 4121, I might be able to

[zealous palm]

can we get a pole in here for a LS burn for boarding ops

[halcyon spire]

No that's part of the flanking rule, if you flank the target has no armour as said in the first line.

[quasi crown]

also sorry but the key to the right of "o" is not working for me now

[rapid sorrel]

P?

[zealous palm]

yah, but shack said specifically that aero assets bypass armor if they hit an orbital from the rear

[halcyon spire]

Really? Damn.

Again tricked by the rules doc. 😅

[zealous palm]

it's a special case

[halcyon spire]

I feel like aerospace is a major part of orbitals as we see here they pose a major risk. I wouldn't call it a special case but oh well, Shack does SHack things.

[rapid sorrel]

I'd agree to the Boarding op, only if we get confirmation that 4121 can board

[halcyon spire]

Too bad the ships can't reverse.

[astral tapir]

Im good with this. Park the Exodia right in front and facing NE and have the HMGs on pd to try and stop all those missiles. then we can put some shots right down their front and the mechs could take some pot shots or hit the fighters again.

[zealous palm]

Asked Shack in Tac-comms, lets see if he responds

Since orders arn't due until sunday evening, we'll have some extra time

[gritty crystal]

what should i do as a bomber?

[rapid sorrel]

Pray

[lyric turret]

I dont know if you want to brave that fuzzball.

[zealous palm]

@quasi crown I'm starting to do OT at work, sunday/monday I'm off so that's fine, but I might need you to do the Thursay Map if they give me OT then. I dont get off until the deadline.

[quasi crown]

#1382036960356597963 message

this

[quasi crown]

can you send me the ma assets?

[zealous palm]

I can if needed

you have TTS?

[quasi crown]

ye

[zealous palm]

also, if the Aviary pushes north, or NE 2 tiles, to say, 4020 or 3920 first, it'll give them more room to manuver and flank around to hit the BC. If the bombers want to make a pass. Their other option is to stay onboard, crew guns/repair/fight fires, so the infantry/medics are free to board/defend as needed

[rapid sorrel]

Is Knightmare still alive?

[quasi crown]

all the bombers are

[rapid sorrel]

Oh thank god

[rare lantern]

I suppose its confirmed then that MBTs cant hit fighters

[quasi crown]

yeah they can

they just do normal damage to them

[rapid sorrel]

How would that even work?

[north crown]

Proximity rounds?

[rapid sorrel]

Imagine sniping a plane out of the sky with a tank

[north crown]

Also hey cancer we’re in a little trouble😂

[quasi crown]

well these are shi board tbf

[rapid sorrel]

We are in so much trouble

[quasi crown]

also both fires have fighters now

[north crown]

If we have an armoury we might wanna burn the LS to get everyone weapons we’re about to eat a lot of boarding pods I think

[rare lantern]

Huh, then why didn't mine fire? I was manning the one on the exodia which has an arc, but the map shows that it didn't fire despite at least one fighter definitely being within the arc

[quasi crown]

he udated the notes

[north crown]

Might wanna clear that with shack

[quasi crown]

he missed it

[rapid sorrel]

I'm withholding my order for the meantime, whilst we wait on the boarding confirmation

[quasi crown]

#1382781756989767692 message

for iceraider

[rare lantern]

Ah cool, thanks!

Sorry I've been busy the last couple of days and was just catching up

[quasi crown]

There was a lot of scuff in our midrounds lol

[north crown]

Do we have an armoury?

[quasi crown]

aviary has one

[calm talon]

I don't see any boarding pods, its all fighters

[rare lantern]

Should be one on the aviary I think

[calm talon]

boarding bots, that is

[quasi crown]

but lets not do that til we are actually boarded

Also Vic now has 3 inf on it lol

[rapid sorrel]

Imagine if we board the enemy ship, end up losing PV, but keeping the bot ship XD

[rare lantern]

So uh, we definitely cant let those fighters rearm right?

[rapid sorrel]

I don't know where they would re-arm from

They can't all fit in that BC

[glad flume]

my assumption is that they do need to reload, but can do it themselves. i.e. lasers cooling off

gives them a bit of a bonus without making it impossible to win

another possibility is killing the BC will shut them down

Also, where am i supposed to be moving too?

[rare lantern]

Also that ship has 3 LRMs, which is scary

[rapid sorrel]

Would that mean boarding it means we can reprogram them? XD

[glad flume]

no idea. prob not?

[calm talon]

I'm sure my marines will totally reprogram the bots to be our friends, and not give them a crippling addiction to crayons instead

[glad flume]

@sinful latch @dusky dagger Im going to face the BC. both of you should fire at it

@fresh stream @teal rampart one of you should man the DCT and prep a repair, and the other should prep to put out a fire

@lyric turret did you move to PV?

[lyric turret]

Yeah to damage control fires

[glad flume]

@fierce sentinel youre gonna see some HMG action. I think you put PD as your action? idk, hmgs confuse me

[calm talon]

the HMG PD action uses up all ammo but can shoot at LRMs

which the BC has a lot of

[glad flume]

what about fighters? thats what im concerned about atm

[rapid sorrel]

There's not much we can do about them

[calm talon]

I don't think it shoots at fighters as part of the PD action, that's just a regular attack

[glad flume]

i can tank a few lrm hits, but a sustained attack on my engines will kill me pretty dam fast

[rapid sorrel]

My HMG is on the front of PV, they're already too far behind it

[glad flume]

@fierce sentinel ok then, ill have you attack fighters with ur HMG. gotta protect our rear

[rapid sorrel]

We're pretty much at the mercy of, if they can reload or not

[zealous palm]

were debating on if we want to spend a LS, and push up enough to board that BC, since shack said it's stationary this turn

[glad flume]

Ok i just wanna check, can my MBCs hit the BC from where i am?

[glad flume]

i really dont think thats a good idea. it'll take several turns to secure it, and killing it should be one round with a full broadside from everyone, right?

[zealous palm]

not from your current position, you need to move up atleast 1 tile, and then face the BC

[glad flume]

so does range of two not mean two away from my hex?

[quasi crown]

The thoughts so far has een for CA to go to 4020 or 4021

[zealous palm]

it's at range 3

[rapid sorrel]

Yes, however, taking it means

1. Glory of boarding
2. Learning what actually happens inside
3. Possibility of shutting down the fighters
4. New ship
5. Another orbital target, even if we skeleton crew it

[glad flume]

its nose is in 4121 which is in range, no?

[zealous palm]

nope

otherwise shack would have shot at it

[glad flume]

no to which part? its not in 4121 or i cant hit 4121

[zealous palm]

yes you can hit 4121, not it's not considered in 4121, if you want to hit hit, you need to move 1 tile up, and face it

[glad flume]

k

[zealous palm]

up as in closer to it

[glad flume]

but if multiple of our ships die while waiting on it, then its a waste of lives

[rapid sorrel]

Oh wait, shit, if it's not in 4121, then PV can't reach to board

[glad flume]

I would request from shack that he makes the hex locations clearer in the future, but what can u do...

[zealous palm]

nope, but you would be close enough to block it in, between you and Corvus and Exodia

range is your position in the hex, converted over the number of hex's you can move, for the easiest way to figure it out

[rapid sorrel]

If we can board, I'll block it, and then board turn two with Crimson and Sound for reinforcements

[astral tapir]

The Exodia is parking right in front of it to try and contain the missiles as much as possible with our HMGS.

[quasi crown]

roblem with boarding is we also lose actions

[zealous palm]

well we need all 3 captain's to be onboard with the boarding, enough people to want to spend the LS, and the inf and medics need to agree with it

[glad flume]

But then all fighters will be rearmed and we die

[quasi crown]

with 2 inf currently fighting fires

[zealous palm]

eh, if were boarding, the inf/medics fighting fires, can reorder to board if they want, and some of the AC/MBC gunners, or the comms/scanner guys can do fires

[rapid sorrel]

We can take another hit if the fighters can re-arm

And if they can, we're goners anyways

[quasi crown]

I just don't think we are equied for boarding

[zealous palm]

na, we arn't, we could just blast it, it's just an option if people want it

[quasi crown]

like next season buy breaching ods lol

[zealous palm]

hence the request for a vote/pole, and a pin of that if it's made

[quasi crown]

I almost did this season

[glad flume]

Not if killing the BC disabled them. So either we board and die to the fighters either way, or we kill it and maybe they die. Thats how I’m reading this situation

[quasi crown]

I don't think the fighters will die with the c

bc*

[glad flume]

And the fighters will get behind us and destroy us where we have no armor

[glad flume]

Then we’re dead either way

[astral tapir]

If we focus fire on it and take it out, the fighters will either have nowhere to land and be out of ammo, or if they do land they will go down with it.

[quasi crown]

I think they wuill fly back to where they cam from (wreckage field)

[glad flume]

It’s literally our only chance. They could full kill at least one ship in a single turn

[zealous palm]

yah, either their being controlled by the BC, and killing it/boarding it stops them, or they are not, but they have no ammo, and were fine, or they have ammo, and they are already behind us, so moving in and attacking the BC dosn't lose us anything

the BC dosn't have flight decks, and that many fighters is way to many for a BC anyway, even if it had all FD's, so yah, that's not their base

[rapid sorrel]

We got confirmation this is the largest aerospace unit in bot control right?

[zealous palm]

largest seen so far

[glad flume]

My vote in the current situation is we murder the BC. I don’t think we have the manpower to board and survive

Also, even while boarding it’ll be shooting at us

[zealous palm]

we've seen 2 types, and 4 of them so far

2 types of BC's that is, 1 AC, 2 HMG Port, and 2 LRM, and 1 AC, 1 HMG Port, and 3 LRM

[quasi crown]

Re:fighter force size

[glad flume]

If we kill the BC and the fighters don’t die, we can circle up the ships and hope combined PDS kills them

[quasi crown]

So yeah we ran into their main fighter force lol

[glad flume]

Ok so this is a decisive battle

[quasi crown]

Also the mechs were great, they hurt the fighters

imagine how bad it would have been for them to have reached lanet side

like our ground guys would have been eviscerated

[zealous palm]

yah, they would have chewed up storm, or some of the other mixed BG's

[rapid sorrel]

I just wish we had a way to punish those fighters

[zealous palm]

we already killed like 1/3 of them

[glad flume]

Do we want to make a poll for boarding? I’m adamantly against it, I think it’s too big of a risk, but this is a democratic military so lmao

[quasi crown]

We did kill about a 1/3

[rapid sorrel]

That's not enough

https://tenor.com/view/rip-and-tear-doom-doomguy-isabelle-isabelle-animal-crossing-gif-26156184

[rare lantern]

We killed 7 out of 24, so just a bit over a quarter

[quasi crown]

"Then go home and have some fun, together we are ONE"

[quasi crown]

it was 30

[rapid sorrel]

You know what?

Screw it, those bastards are gonna pay

Damn the boarding op

CLEAVE THAT BASTARD IN HALF!!

[quasi crown]

and they are now down to 20 with 2 of them injured

[halcyon spire]

I like this idea. :D

[rare lantern]

I did count wrong, but it looks like there were only 27, since there are 20 left and 7 explosions where they used to be

[quasi crown]

Weird

maybe there was a screw u on number of ?s

[rare lantern]

I think the BC counted for 3

Nope that's not it

3 fighters are missing then

[quasi crown]

maybe they went back to the wreckage yard

[glad flume]

Or he miss counted number of squadrons

[fluid cave]

3 armor means in order to hit they need to be 4 or higher if they have no AP.

[fluid cave]

I don't think you can prep to repair or put out fires

[keen yacht]

Do we get anything for capturing a ship?

Also oh no, monarch, firebird and spades noooo

Banshee warden and vampire as well nooo

[tough jay]

🤨

Firebird?

[keen yacht]

Oh firebird

Freebies

Darn

[quasi crown]

lmao

[keen yacht]

Frebird

Had to fight my autocorrect for that lol

Is that all our fighters gone though?

[tough jay]

Dagger Squadron still alive

[keen yacht]

Dang so we did lose most of them

[tough jay]

https://tenor.com/view/starwarsday-porkins-star-wars-gif-8491758

[lyric turret]

Hallways are only 2x2 anyways so couldn't get more than 2 infantry anyways

[fluid cave]

Currently I'm going to scan a Fighter so we can get details on stats.

If we want to Comms intercept the BC again let me know I can change the target

[edgy harbor]

Well uh, I already did put my order in as comms intercepting the BC.

It would be good to know exactly how many hits it has

[lyric turret]

Comms intercept I thought only tells you intentions I thought?

[halcyon spire]

That's correct, usually it's the scanner that gives the hits.

[north crown]

They can come from the missle tubes they’re missle and boarding pods

[violet wharf]

If all remaining aero is down for it, I think we should do a strike on the rear

Then we should be able to kill the bc without much trouble

or this

[mossy flare]

Well our remaining fighters need to get back to rearm first so it would only be bombers going

[solar ravine]

Ah yes, swing far enough south to present a prime, chasable-with-impunity target to all the southern fighters, and fly directly into the BC's HMG arc.

[halcyon dew]

The BC doesnt have any AA, right? Just making sure

[solar ravine]

It has an HMG. Close enough to AA for me.

[solar ravine]

This is a much better path imo.
It still requires us to fly through the HMG zone, but our bombers are no longer the first target their fighters see.

Because if we are the first target, we are dead no matter what we do.

[violet wharf]

Was mostly thinking that we'd hit the thrusters from the back, someone said there's no armor from behind, but we might just as well do this and turn around at the end for the strike
We should be able to route the path fully above the hmg fof and still hit from the back, while not being the first target fighters see (if backshots even do anything, do orbis count as vehicles?)

[solar ravine]

Would also work, yes.

Hitting from behind is relevant to the fighters, not so much for us.
For bombs we need to fly directly over a target, so attack direction is moot anyways, and our torpedos have AP3.

[violet wharf]

I'd guess the fighter will have spent their shots by the time they get to the BC anyway :p

This path also puts the fighters shots on the already damaged flights of bots

[solar ravine]

Probably.
idk if Dagger wants to do a second round against that blob now that they're the only ones left.

[violet wharf]

They've already spent their ammo, and they're hit pretty hard, they should probably just avoid any fight, but might be smart to join the strike group when it passes their current location for herd protection

[sinful latch]

Vicious. Viscous means gooey.

[fluid cave]

What if the Aviary moved to 4020 and you took off from there?
Just behind where the Corvus is going

[teal rampart]

I'm doing repair and rearm on the Aviary so if any of you three (I believe) remaining need it it's there

[slow whale]

Yeah I'm always open to moving to a position to allow for a better bombing run. If you need 2 extra speed bombers, let me know.

[mossy flare]

I guess we need someone to break out another LS then? Right?

[fluid cave]

Who's landing this turn?

[mossy flare]

If we're doing repairs and rearms for the fighters

[fluid cave]

Cause we should just wait one more turn and do it next round.

[mossy flare]

Dagger squadron is

[fluid cave]

Especially if we're going to try and burn one for speed this turn.

[mossy flare]

Just means when the fighters land they're stuck there for a turn at least before they're ready for another

[fluid cave]

No, someone could rearm and repair them the turn they launch

[quasi crown]

@teal rampart Just so you know there isn't going to be any aeros on CA to R&R

[zealous palm]

Remember there's 25 small supply on beacon that should be used first to rearm and repair the fighters.

Also, with only 3 left alive, that's going to stretch quite aways lol.

[quasi crown]

they were droed off on aviary

[keen yacht]

Looks like I fired right, on the starboard AC, I think there’s a red line coming from the gun. Just making sure though lol

[quasi crown]

good catch I missed that

[quasi crown]

There is a poll in the org chat yall should vote on
#1382045293591134218 message

I voted for the wreckage field

[zealous palm]

Reminder orders are due tomorrow afternoon, but if their all in early I can post it tomorrow or early Monday and we can get early mid-rounds.

[edgy harbor]

I voted for L-A2, mainly since I want to try and confirm my suspicions about the enemy battleship taskforce

[calm talon]

ok, do we have two people fighting fires on PV? going to put orders in in a bit

[edgy harbor]

Idk, I think I've only seen one so far?

[quasi crown]

Yes, on PV there are 2 hits to repair (I think Echo is going to repair one), and 4 guns to man

[quasi crown]

SonofSkz and Udown are fighting the fires

[edgy harbor]

Ah ok

[quasi crown]

I believe the port side guns are the priority over the STBD ones

since they will be having angles on the BC

the STBD guns will only possibly have angles on fighters

[calm talon]

Hm. Ok, port MBC it is.

[violet wharf]

Sooo, are we doing a run? we kinda have to decide very soon

[halcyon dew]

Can do! No crew on the PV repairing the ship themselves?

[quasi crown]

Currently no, I think making them only need to have one person spend their action on that would help to ensure the guns are well manned

[quasi crown]

I think you guys should. there was a decent path posted earlier for you guys one sec

[violet wharf]

The one i replied to? :p

[quasi crown]

The orange one I like more

[violet wharf]

I we want to through hmg sure

I'm down to tank

[quasi crown]

orange avoids it? yellow goes into the HMG

[violet wharf]

Im pretty sure its pink and yellow :p

[quasi crown]

Yeah, I think yall need to make an attack run because if the fighters still have ammo we are all boned

most likely they are out of ammo

[violet wharf]

we die either way if we launch and they have ammo, so might as well tank the hmg for the orbis, since we guaranteed dont die if the fighters are out of ammo

by going yellow

[calm talon]

the orbital hmg can't fire on orbitals, no need to tank it

[violet wharf]

oh

nm then

pink it is, we just gotta make an order and get the aero to submit it

[zealous palm]

if nothing else, launch to send the two torps at the BC, that's 2 more hits garenteed

[violet wharf]

yeah, but might as we'll do the full strike, safer if everyone goes out together

[zealous palm]

yah, i was saying all launch, even if only the two torps are sent, and the rest just fly around

[old hill]

Is there anything on the Aviary that isn’t currently manned? And are we not using a LS to rearm fighters? We can’t take the repair action preemptively in case we get hit, right?

[quasi crown]

LS unneeded since our friendly local HAT left 25 supply on the Aviary

repair action cannot be taken preemptively
Scanning the fighters would be useful I think

[solar ravine]

I'm not on my rig for another 2 hours or so, I'll make a proper image of our flight plan then. Are we going in a line formation or something a bit tighter?

@slow whale Would you be ok with moving toward the north flank? Gives more maneuvering room to our returning fighters.

[fluid cave]

I’m running the scanner

[fluid cave]

You could pop over to the PV and run their scanner (If it’s not being run) or ask VC Hose if they’d rather do something else and you use the Aviary’s comms intercept

[solar ravine]

Another question, should I pop flares on the way out or next turn on the way back?

[fluid cave]

Your call.
Do you think they can attack again this turn?

[violet wharf]

just ball up to distribute damage, evasive fighters at the front

[old hill]

I mean they have no way to rearm from BC right I would assume they can shot more than one.

[quasi crown]

my b

[solar ravine]

Our fighters are coming back in this turn, best we get is a small distraction and 3 bot fighters dying to their AA missiles.

[quasi crown]

Maybe? we have no knowledge. The flare would be a good way to be safe

For all we know they could be whiskey and are trying to be distraction for the BC

They seemed to be headed to Ziyal and jumpscared by us

so they may need reload and were planning on operating from ziyal with airfields

@old hill popping over to PV to repair a hit could be worth. PV needs peeps for at least 1 repair and 2 guns and they only have 2 people left

Also the PV Scanner is not being used just the comms int

[violet wharf]

wait we dont have any fighters in hangars, right, ignore the fighters and just go with a bomber strike then

[slow whale]

I can move wherever you guys need.

[old hill]

like this? Order Type: Scan fighters (ammo)

[quasi crown]

yeah that would work

[violet wharf]

maybe we can not send fighters bombers if they dont need ammo? up to shack

[quasi crown]

the fighters are in the air

they are launching missiles and RTBing

[fluid cave]

Just keep us within 3 of the BC.

[slow whale]

Yeah, I'll make sure I'm in range.

[solar ravine]

Proposed bomber flightpath (in red), to use in your order.
@violet wharf @kind oar @lyric juniper @warped vessel @gritty crystal @lilac meteor

[violet wharf]

The path is 3820 3920 4019 4120 4220 4221?

[solar ravine]

Yea.
Ass to represent in text because we're skimming hex borders the entire way.

[violet wharf]

we could just move the path slightly too (if you feel like doing that)

[solar ravine]

Not really, that path is 5-5.5GU and I'm popping my flares, so I only have 5.5 speed.

Am now crossing my fingers that all us bombers fly together, I don't wanna launch and find only one other in formation...
🤞

[edgy harbor]

You gonna pop them flares?

[solar ravine]

Yep

Let's see if they were worth the req I spent on them 😅

[edgy harbor]

That's good, hope that at the very least all you bombers live. I have a bad feeling we will be needing yall to hit reinforcing bot orbitals real soon.

[violet wharf]

• Unit Callsign:

• Unit Type: Bomber

• Order Type: Advance

• Movement/Action Tracker: Take off from aviary >3820>3920>4019>4120>4220>4221
  Fly in formation with other bombers
  Attack/Bomb BC

• Starting Coords: 3820

• Ending Coords: 4221

• Facing: NW

Equipment:

Roleplay:

For copying. Copy this and above image in ping for order

[solar ravine]

👍

[edgy harbor]

I had a weird dream in which shields were introduced as an alternative to armor for orbitals, a sidegrade of sorts. The way they worked was that you could decrease the armor value of a ship's hull zone to gain double the lost value in shield hit points, shields would regen by a certain value each round and there were also some special actions that could be taken to actively defend against enemy attacks. Though that is all I remember from that weird dream since I woke up soon after.

[violet wharf]

Interesting :p

[fluid cave]

Shield generator:
When someone attacks you they automatically hit. You lose 1 of your shield hits and gain 1 fire.
This shield module grants you 1 shield hit and must be manned to provide that hit.

[edgy harbor]

Eh, that sounds very weak with the auto fire.

Think it could do without that

[quasi crown]

@neat loom the port MBC is currently manned on PV, The port AC & STBD MBC is open though

I recommend the port AC though because the stbd MBC won't have an angle to hit the BC

[neat loom]

How'd I get moved off a port I have been stationing this whole campaign lol

Fuck me I guess

[calm talon]

Cuz when I asked earlier what needed filling I was told "hey, port guns are open r/n and will be facing the BC"

Told you not to go on that smoke break bro 😛

[zealous palm]

this is your 2-3 hour reminder for orders

@slow whale @teal rampart @cosmic ledge @halcyon dew @lyric juniper @warped vessel @gritty crystal @neat loom

we currently have 8 shot's targeted at the BC, 1 Torp, and 3 bombs on the BC, that should be enough to kill it

that's 9 hits min, from torps+shots, and 12 if all 3 bombs beat the armor

@neat loom I took the Port AC, but if you want it put it in your order and I can do something else, I'm just filling space

stb MBC is still open, and can target fighters as needed also

taking a nap now, I'll start building the map once I'm up, later on, we have a bad thunderstorm rolling though, and might loose power

[edgy harbor]

Oof, hope that doesn't happen

[zealous palm]

eh, if it does, it does, I don't need to submit our orders till tomorrow afternoon, and I'm off tomorrow, so it's fine

[slow whale]

Damn it's been nice serving with you all. Hopefully it's a quick hiatus so we can get back to fighting again.

[heady void]

shame it ended so fast (but i take it as a silent win)

[halcyon dew]

Big F, but yay that no units have died I guess?

[edgy harbor]

...damn

[slow whale]

Hopefully he allows some smaller games to go through in the mean time.

[fluid cave]

Well, 5 rec for everyone

[solar ravine]

Augh.
Victim of his own success, I'd say.

[violet wharf]

Probably still need to rebuy units if lost

[north crown]

Well shit

[neat loom]

Huh that's wild

[violet wharf]

hope not

[north crown]

I’ll be running a mini campaign soon if he lets me

[slow whale]

He said no losses recorded so no deaths

[north crown]

Idk if he’s shutting all of meta down or just the main campaign

[calm talon]

announcement mentions no unit losses recorded

[fluid cave]

I will also try.
But I assume Shack is going to take a full break, and then maybe let some mini campaigns start

So I’d assume nothing for at least a month

[edgy harbor]

I don't feel like I really won man, like yay, requisition! But, im conflicted?

[glad flume]

Damn

[north crown]

Ya I know the feeling

[fluid cave]

Also true

I won’t complain about 5 rec through

[glad flume]

I mean the req is nice, and we’ll be in a better position for next campaign, but damn

I wonder what happened? It doesn’t feel like he just got tired of it. Seems like something drastic happened

[north crown]

I think I’m gonna buy a BB if we get another campaign.

Either that or a BC

[quasi crown]

damn

[edgy harbor]

I'm buying a BB for sure

[quasi crown]

Well, it was fun for a bit

[north crown]

It was but don’t let this discourage you if you’re new!

[glad flume]

Who owns the PV?

[fluid cave]

I’m sure Shack will be able to handle whatever happened.
Best thing we can do is not put any pressure on him

[fluid cave]

@rapid sorrel

[north crown]

It sucks but other vet players are already talking about running campaigns to keep people interested

[torpid gate]

damn this kind of ending huh, I wonder if it would have been a bad idea to let the tac-coms finish the campaign

[hard sleet]

It was fun everyone. Glad to serve with you all.

[north crown]

[quasi crown]

[edgy harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-salute-mgs3-gif-9277925

[hard sleet]

[fierce sentinel]

Never got to shoot the HMG, so next time we put it in the front of the ship!

[halcyon dew]

Hopefully I get to repair something next campaign

[fluid cave]

The Taccoms aren’t GMs.
He’d have to share a lot of information with a lot of people.
He’d still be handling a lot to transfer that information

[edgy harbor]

Well, I'm going to go into hiding until I receive my payment and am no longer in debt. I can't evade the ARS anymore with the excuse I'm mid campaign.

Though, before I go dark. @rapid sorrel, next campaign would you be down to create a BB centered task force and call it "Sabaton"?

[lyric juniper]

Well, it was a short run, but a good one, it was nice to fly with you all. I hope to see you all again soon in the next operation, whenever that may be. Until then,
Fly. Fight. Win.

[north crown]

I’d join that with my BB

[edgy harbor]

What will she be named?

[north crown]

Deaths Herald

[edgy harbor]

Was thinking of naming mine "Steel Commander" after the Sabaton song 'Steel Commanders' :D (to sorta go with the task force's theme, though in the end that be just for fun and not a rule)

For loadout, thinking of just cramming in as many MBCs as possible atm

[zealous palm]

sadge, ohh well, yah I'll be definitly planning an interlocking set of mini campaigns, if were allowed to use the current rules and run them

[north crown]

Same I really wanna run a smaller Strat map but my computer can’t run ground at the clarity level shack wants

So I’m probably gonna stick to orbital maps for now

[gritty basin]

Fly on my friends

it was fun playing with you and it's a shame it had to end early

[edgy lance]

Aye. GG lads!