Task force 1 - Victorum: Comms

[lyric juniper]

Assuming we clear L-W2 next turn, I’d vote we keep going to L-A2, then Ziyal city high orbit to clear it out for ground forces. But that’s dependent on how much resistance we hit

[lyric turret]

Gonna be the floater crew again filling in where needed.

[lilac meteor]

Think it would be smart to chase with my bomber, assuming there will be a fighter escort, or do I just stay ready?

[tough jay]

probably stay on standby

[lyric turret]

Probably best to stay close since we dont know

[lilac meteor]

Cool, easy turn then

[keen yacht]

So chill round for us again?

[coarse oxide]

WHERE ARE THE ENEMIES. frothing at the mouth

[north crown]

Thank you

[zealous palm]

so were going to L-W2, aero assets can either chase the frigate, or form up as a wing, or do their own thing, if they want to form up, I'll need a formation

TAC-COM orders are due monday afternoon, so your orders are due tomorrow afternoon, in about 22-23 Hrs

[keen yacht]

Same, give me something to shoot!!

[zealous palm]

I hate to say it, as LM's, with range 1 weapons, your mobile laser cwis turrets, the change we get close enough for you to "hit them with your sword" is probibly 0.

[calm talon]

obviously our fighters need to chill out and let something approach 😛

[coarse oxide]

Painnnnnnnnnn hey maybe I can hop on a fighter and give a couple more armaments to the fighter

[north crown]

Surf the fighter🤣

I think in the future mechs the LRMS, ACS or HMGS would be good additions to ships. LLS seems like they’re gonna be hard to get into combat unless they can shoot fighters

[halcyon spire]

:O There was a poll?

I like this result. :D

[coarse oxide]

idk i just wish i was doing more. im feeling really useless

[calm talon]

we haven't been in a proper fight yet

one shotting a single BC doesn't really count

[coarse oxide]

we should have mech launchers

cannonball into other ships

"Broadside the FOOLS!"

me in my WRX with flat 4 when i redline it in second gear

how many engineers do we have?

you think we can jerry rig something to a bomber?

"my name is johnny knoxville, Welcone to Jackass"

lets weld a rocket to my back

[drowsy lion]

Hey @north crown , @fluid cave , thanks for your interest in Omega-Zulu!

Currently, most AOs are being resolved or already assigned (Federal Listening Post is being handled by Cumulus).

As such, standby for now and keep up the good work with Victorum - I'll add more AO Working Groups in when they are needed.

[zealous palm]

so, I'm thinking about using my action, to use the comms, and contact Atlas, asking them to see if one of their engineers can investigate the manufacturing and drop pod combination, and see if it might have some tech we could integrate into our ships.

Drop pods with restocking turrets, or stuff, would be nice

[fluid cave]

Feel free to ping me when you need help in an area.
I watch the TF comms + 212th and Venator

[zealous palm]

same with the LRM+Manufacturing box's, but that'll be us investigating the wrecks of the BC's once we kill more

[lyric turret]

Did anyone take Sierra's position on the Aviary's AC?

I believe they dont get back till the 11th.

[dawn gyro]

Whos the tac comm for Victorum?

[hard sleet]

That would be Cael

caelesetos

[timid zinc]

did we decide on cap or chill in hangar?

[hard sleet]

No clue. I don’t really think it matters as all we are getting is positions next round. I’m flying CAP so feel free to join me or not.

[dawn gyro]

@quasi crown I'm looking to interview all the Task Force tac comms if your up for it.

I think it's one of those interviews that can really help me get a better view on the whole battle.'

[fluid cave]

Cael is our backup.
@zealous palm is our primary

[fluid cave]

Bonkerz is reloading it.
I don’t think anyone’s manning it

[mossy flare]

Yeah I left the gunnery for someone else, the captain had some RP about me reloading it, so I got it done before our first LS runs out.

[old hill]

I will man the AC on Aviary if no other fighters/bomber need to rearm

[lyric juniper]

@rapid sorrel @lilac meteor @coarse oxide resubmit orders, edited orders aren’t allowed

[lyric turret]

Gonna assume all guns are manned then.

[slow whale]

Funnily enough, for some reason I had it in my head you were reloading the AC last round, so I put it in the RP. Sometimes there is just to much to read so it all jumbles together. Thanks for doing it this round though. Will be good to have an extra turn to not have to worry about it if we get in an extended fight.

[fluid cave]

If we’re firing it this turn.
We can get 3 more rounds of shots. T6-T8.

[slow whale]

True, that is entirely possible. Bots might meet us at the jump point if they guess we are chasing down that brawler. Would certainly be a brawl.

[halcyon dew]

Working on my order atm: We didnt encounter anything at LW-1 right? Not even the damaged frigate that was with the battlecruiser?

[tough jay]

We did see it, but it was fleeing so no tactical map

[halcyon dew]

Alrightio. Did we get any indication where it was fleeing to?

[tough jay]

LW-2

#midround-events message

[halcyon dew]

Ahh thanks. I just found the message as well lol

[mossy flare]

Yeah I saw, I loved the RP so I worked it into mine for this round and got it done while we essentially have downtime

[slow whale]

Yours is great as well. Had to put reference in, couldn't resist.

[north crown]

Hey guys I got some shit going on in my life rn so struggling to keep up with everything. Please ping me with updates or if you need anything but I’m not gonna be coordinating with other TFS or reading as much as I was before. At least for the next turn

[edgy harbor]

I have been theory crafting regarding that bot task force of 2 battlecruiser analogs and 1 suspected bot battleship analog and have just about finished compiling my thoughts on the matter. Thing is I don't know if I should post them here or put it on the doc.

[fluid cave]

Post it here

Then add it to the doc

[edgy harbor]

Ok (in that case prepare for a wall of text because I hit the text limit whilst writing it on discord)

So I looked again at the movements of the 3 recently detected bot vessels and I suspect that there is a chance we may run into them.
According to the midrounds they were moving from hill mine to H-H this turn and so I was asking myself where they could possibly be going next, I came up with two theories as to what they may be up to, both are under the assumption that these 3 hostile orbitals are a combat oriented task force much like we are.

• First theory [RED] and the one I feel is more probable is represented by the red arrows, point H-H is only connected to two other locations: the hill mines and Haydar Village. Now they were just at hill mines and could've moved to Elim city easily, yet they didn't and are instead moving the opposite direction, towards Haydar and by extension closer to Zydar city, meanwhile we are moving to Nav point L-W2 and much like we spotted the frigate when we entered L-W1 and attacked it with our bombers before it left, I have no doubt the frigate spotted we where coming this way as well, towards where their gate and potential supply lines lie. In the midrounds it already was made pretty clear the bots see us as an extreme threat and so I think from their perspective the most logical move would be to reposition their space forces to defend their lines, to intercept us before we threaten their invasion force.

• Second Theory [ORANGE]: Instead of moving to defend their supply lines, this force instead moves to attack the closest space assets (in this case it would be fluffle and then Atlas), in which case they'd have to double back. Now while this is most definitely a possibility and would be troubling, I have reasons to doubt it will be what happens. The reasoning being that due to the now destroyed frigate, they have got to have some general idea of the fact Atlas and a bunch of battlegroups are present at Elim and could have easily this last round have moved to try and reinforce the frigate, yet they didn't, which probably means that isn't their priority.

Though I must say that at the moment this is pure speculation since we don't know for sure if they are a space combat force or their actual destination, hopefully we can get more intel on them so as to make a more accurate guess on their intentions.

Do have a few smaller ideas on what they could possibly be doing, such as what if they are some form of cargo/transportation task force? Could have been at the mines to steal resources and now be attempting to flee with them.

[fluid cave]

My assumption aligns with Red

But They might be going for Ziyal and stop there when Venator arrives

[north crown]

They could just want to hold high orbit and rain aerospace down on everyone

[edgy harbor]

Yeah, that too is very much possible. Yet I feel that if they were gonna go after battlegroups, that it would make more sense to go for the bigger prize of the 3-4 at Elim that is much closer to them.

But if they do stop at Ziyal when Venator gets there, we may well be the only force that can assist Venator, we would be two turns away, true. but we could launch sorties?

[north crown]

If they have a more carrier focused group then we do they could sit ziyal high orbit and rain down on venator

[fluid cave]

Also a factory drop pods?
That could hurt if they sit in HO

Well. We’re seeing how Tanks aren’t good at everything

[mossy flare]

We could sortie or double our speed to get there in 1

[old hill]

I would think they are head to Cross Roads. They get to protect whatever they are building there and are one jump from striking Elm city and Cell'dar mine/ reinforcing Ziyal

[fluid cave]

1 LS to move faster is normally good for us if we have a target

[north crown]

What’s our LS at now?

[north crown]

I still think that’s their missle site

[fluid cave]

13 with one reserved for Atlas if they want it.

[old hill]

I was think factory or whatever unit production site they can make. Same reason as moving that TG to the Cross Roads easy to move to most major location on the planet.

[lyric turret]

Is it bad I kinda want to have a sink the Bismarck chase?

[north crown]

No reason it can’t be both. I am surprised that we’ve been on the ground for two turns and we haven’t seen any more missles yet

[quasi crown]

Ill be home in a couple hours

[edgy harbor]

The missile spam gives me flashbacks to high fleet and to the automaton front on HD2

[mossy flare]

It's not bad, but we aren't fast enough for it

[zinc spruce]

When are turns done?

[lyric juniper]

One hour is the order deadline <t:1751839200:t>

<t:1751839200:R>

[hard sleet]

God dammit Raptors. Can you please not take space dust for 5 minutes.

[rapid sorrel]

Made it just in time then XD

[zinc spruce]

Unit Callsign: Banshe
Unit Type: fighter

Ship: PEC Exodia

• Order Type: advance

• Movement/Action: launch from PEC Exodia and form up at the front of the fleet to perform CAP [With Warden]

• Starting Coords: PEC Exodia in L1

• Ending Coords: somewhere in L2

• Facing: facing in the same direction of TF Victorum

Specific to your unit: hits 2/2, ammo 1/1

Roleplay: "Preforming Combat Air Patrol with Warden, Will be back soon"

This good rq?

[slow whale]

Hey guys, apologies for the ping. Helping out the TACCOMs since they are busy. Sorry if I missed any prior arrangements that you would be MIA for the turn or I missed your orders when going through them. @warped vessel @kind oar @violet wharf @keen yacht @fresh stream Orders are due.

I know Sierra will be out for about 2 turns. Other two missing are the TACCOMs.

[slow whale]

Looks fine to me

[keen yacht]

oh right

ill do mine now

[violet wharf]

Done

[fresh stream]

Thanks for the ping, weekend had just been busy so it slipped my mind that I didn't put in orders yet.

That being said I get to do nothing until we get borded or hit.

[torpid gate]

Im sorry but there is no getting off The Old Ones™ wild ride

[hard sleet]

Yes there is. We can get you help.

[kind oar]

yeah, I'm typing out my order now, just going to stay by the Aviary since I should be rearmed and everything 👍

[hard sleet]

There is therapy for this type of stuff. We can talk to a professional.

[torpid gate]

We dont want help. We only want their warm embrace

[hard sleet]

What about the warm embrace of the ones you care about?

[kind oar]

shoot, I just realized I missed the order deadline, can I still make one?

[hard sleet]

Please Raptors. Their is more to life than the crystals and the old ones

[torpid gate]

You have no idea what there is to life. You can only see with you eyes, while I can see everything

[solar ravine]

Regardless, you should limit your usage of whatever it is, our instruments are occasionally showing signs of lattice degradation.
The last thing we want is a riftstorm starting up... our drive can deal with it, the rest of Victorum though...

[hard sleet]

Pardon me a what. You speak with experience Zeta.

[torpid gate]

we have only ever seen the entity take Dave. It dosent seem interested in us

[hard sleet]

You better not be summing demons onto the PV

[torpid gate]

They are not demons! They are The Old Ones™

[quasi crown]

Ok, just got home to my comuter, what did I miss

[hard sleet]

Hey. Don’t mention [redacted] we don’t need them showing up with us about to engage in combat maneuvers.

[torpid gate]

Next RP we will start putting crystals into the ships water system

[torpid gate]

Oh god I almost forgot

[hard sleet]

NO YOU WILL FUCKING NOT. I don’t need Knight Gayle to start whispering about the Old Ones and for the WSO to suddenly get yoinked into the void.

[solar ravine]

It's the primary FTL method around Rayen due to everything else failing horribly.

Basically, reality can be viewed as a pattern in a cellular automata, and when the lattice underlying the pattern gets distorted, physics starts to break.
However, there are ways to distort the lattice in a controlled manner, and that can be used to hop around spacetime at will.

You're essentially constructing your own version of spacetime that just happens to look exactly like the spacetime around where you want to be, and then the two merge... somehow. We're still not sure how.

[torpid gate]

But how else will you all gain the great gifts of The Old Ones™

[hard sleet]

The power of friendship and extreme violence of action.

[hard sleet]

That sounds wonderful.

[solar ravine]

And a 'Riftstorm' is a region where two or more distinct lattices intersect, throwing any pattern in any of the intersecting lattices out of whack.
Border regions between universes, if you will. Hazardous as fuck too.

[quasi crown]

processing orders into sheet now

@gritty crystal I had your already rearmed from last turn, did you want to change your order?

[hard sleet]

You know what. Zeta. Go ram the big enemy ship and just overload the FTL device to have multiple lattices rip it apart. (This is why RP is flavor only)

[solar ravine]

This close to a planet? Uhh... no.

[hard sleet]

Wait how big are these storms?

[solar ravine]

Anywhere from microscopic to 100+ AU in size.

In theory you could enclose an entire planet or even star system in a spherical riftstorm.

[hard sleet]

An AU is from earth to the sun right?

[solar ravine]

Yep

[hard sleet]

Ok. Maybe we stick to regular torpedos then.

[astral tapir]

Due to an anonymous complaint, we will be limiting Raptors access to any form of water systems. They will be issued water bottles instead and I would appreciate it if anyone can keep an eye on them if they try to access any maintenance areas.

[solar ravine]

It's the microscopic ones that are ultra dangerous... You fly along and suddenly there's a hole lengthwise through your ship.

[hard sleet]

Thank you oh powerful corporate overlord.

[hard sleet]

I would think the ones blotting out entire star systems would be the bad ones. Can you even live inside a rift storm?

[astral tapir]

I respect Raptors rights to religious ceremonies but I draw the line at unwilling conversions.

[torpid gate]

Tis not conversion. We are only giving sight to those that can not see

[hard sleet]

I can see perfectly.

I would also like to not see some things such as the Old Ones

[solar ravine]

In a way... you can create your own lattice to attempt to assert control of your immediate surroundings. From there you can alter your shard of reality as you wish.
The Lattice Disruption Containment works that way. Breaks the lattice around a section of spacetime while keeping the borders under control.

Closest thing to true magic there is, if you ask me.

[astral tapir]

I already have several crew communing with a god. I would appreciate it if another didn't start practicing magic as well. I am willing to be open to others beliefs but I would also like to keep my ship and its crew alive if at all possible. And I'm not even bringing up all the HR issues I would have to go through if something horrible happened on my first mission.

[hard sleet]

Wait. Does your Hr group also audit signed on crew?

[solar ravine]

It's neat tech for sure.

For the record, our drive is just about sufficient to control our jump destination and keep our bomber intact during transit.
To create and maintain a larger zone of control requires larger devices.

(The ones keeping spacetime around Rayen under control are entire cities by themselves, and they're not perfect at doing it. The tech isn't particularily miniaturizable.)

[astral tapir]

I am responsible for hiring a crew so it all falls on me. It would not look good if the people I hired drugged everyone or summoned a black hole.

I'm just asking that we don't break the spacetime continuum or summon ancient gods.

[quasi crown]

Clear COMMs

I am missing orders from
@warped vessel
@zealous palm
@neat loom

( I figure kael was just going to put theirs in with the map but still get pinged lol)

[solar ravine]

Duly noted. We don't want a repeat Foxbat incident either.

[torpid gate]

we have no hand in summoning The Old Ones™. They will come wheter we want them to or not

[solar ravine]

On a different note, the saga of the misdelivered lasergun continues: #1385616519882346546 message

[zealous palm]

Lol yah, just going to use mine for some RP comms stuff, unless something else needs to be manned.

[quasi crown]

lot of unmanned guns

[zealous palm]

yah, I'll have to man one then, maybe I can do the RP comms also, it's mostly a status update for Atlas, and a request for an engineer to investigate the bot manufacturing plant and drop pod on that frigate

[north crown]

Should probably keep the PD guns manned

[quasi crown]

All PD in the fleet is already manned

2 MBCs on PV are still open though

[fluid cave]

Yes

[zealous palm]

yah I'll probably grab one of the MBC's on the PV, I'm out of the house, but I'll check the sheet, and prep the Tac-com PI turn in when I get home in a few hours, about to watch a movie

I'll need to know if all the aero guys are sticking together, or if we need a formation for shack to place

most look to be escorting one ship or another, or forming up infront

[zealous palm]

@neat loom last call for your order, I'll be posting them tomorrow afternoon around noon Central

[neat loom]

Haven't caught up with the RP, going to assume I'm good to just main the same cannon. Gonna post that

[zealous palm]

were chasing into LW2, LW1 is clear

[quasi crown]

Text summary of turn:
Task Force Victorum

• Movement: Entire TF moving in Formation to L-W2
• Weapon Condition: All Orbital Weapons manned (except PV Port AC)
• EW Systems: Aviary scanning & PV performing comms intercept

Aero assets:

• Escorting Formation:
  Wisp, Cracker, Miss Em, Monarch, Spades, Frebird, Vampire, Banshe, Warden
• all others holding on flight decks

[hard sleet]

Do you have a map for the formation?

[zealous palm]

Yep that looks like everything. Little more concise then I was going to be though. You want to post it since you wrote it up, or should I?

Ohh, RP text comms to add.

Victorum Actual to Atlas Actual, LW-1 clear, pushing into LW-2, request engineer check enemy manufacturing and drop pods installation for fleet wide improvements. Over.

If I don't see a post or reply in 2-3 hrs, I'll post for us Cael, but credit you for the summary.

[fluid cave]

Don't you need the Victorum ship formation too?

[quasi crown]

you got it, I'm busy rn

and I don't have a good image for the formation

[zealous palm]

I'll just use the one you posted way back Cael

ok posted, I'll need to make a new token version of that formation, using the current images, when I have the chance later

[fluid cave]

Remember to mark the unmaned gun on the formation

Here updated (but poorly done verion)

[lyric turret]

Well spearhead found the big red button

[thin fulcrum]

That's Pathfinder. Spearhead went to the mines with Venator

[lyric turret]

Whoops you right

[solar ravine]

Hm. That's the second giant abandoned missile we found.
Wtf is it with interstellar governments and oversized weapons...

[lyric turret]

MAD doctrine.

[north crown]

Lmaooo the feds really like to leave WMDS just laying around

[edgy harbor]

I'd like to find out what type of warhead that feddie missile has equipped by lobbing it at the bot battleship

Or at least, I hope the battlegroup with the red button does that

[rapid sorrel]

Idea, load it onto a HAT

Board the bot flagship

Drop the payload, retreat and trigger

[fluid cave]

No thank you

[obsidian copper]

Soooo lads

Venator May need your aid

Mainly, air cover

[edgy harbor]

Yeah we figured lol

[fluid cave]

Depends on what happens

[edgy harbor]

If nothing gets in our way this turn (or the next), we should be able to help

Though we may also end up having to fight a battle over Ziyal city, based on the current speed and heading of the enemy task force we may just end up running into them there.

[zealous palm]

a big part of it will depend on what we find her in LW-2, if the frigate retreats further into say the scrapyard, then we know their orbital base is there, if they move to the city to group up with the other taskforce, well that's another clue

[lyric turret]

Yeah no sense making grand plans till the midrounds are done at least.

[glad flume]

The ICBM might be helpful for whatever we find at the wreckage yard. I predict an orbit version of what Dawn Bringer found waiting for us at Wreckage ☠️

[rapid sorrel]

Screw an ICBM, we can take whatever comes our way, ourselves

[quasi crown]

maybe it could destroy the enemy gate?

[calm talon]

I'm pretty sure that's the gate our reinforcements are coming from

[north crown]

Maybe but I don’t wanna fire a one off weapon on a maybe

I would really like it if we could do some AOE to an actual bot fleet

[rapid sorrel]

Stardust Memory type shit?

[north crown]

Not familiar with that term but anything to chip a hit or two off before we engage them. Or honestly even if it just started a fire or two on every ship in a hex I would be happy

Less actions for them to toss at us

[edgy harbor]

What reinforcements?

[calm talon]

the fed/syndicate fleet we're holding out for

They could also be coming out of the Lussan gate, sure. We've technically not been explicitly told that we're the only ones with the gate codes.

[edgy harbor]

Were we told when they were arriving?

[calm talon]

nope

[edgy harbor]

Not sure if we should be counting upon that aid then if we got no clue of when they'll even arrive. Best to form plans around what we know and reduce uncontrollable variables from stuff we don't. For all we know, these forces could maybe not even show up until after we have secured the system.

[calm talon]

Sure, we could in theory win without them. but our win condition is literally "survive and hold off the bots till the cavalry arrives to look good for the cameras"

so we have to assume they will show up eventually

[edgy harbor]

Maybe they will, but until that happens or we receive any word regarding that, we must focus on holding this system ourselves.

Now if they do arrive, I highly doubt they will arrive through the Alden Gate. According to the briefing, that system is already fully under bot control so they would have to deal with the bots there before they can arrive here, though if they don't arrive via Lussan, then maybe there could be some secret third gate or they could just jump in some other way.

[north crown]

This is assuming that the bots haven’t found some way to shut down the gates for most people. We only got in cause our codes are old as shit and the bots aren’t powerful enough to break through.

[zealous palm]

we do know one of the upgrades that shack has though about is a jump drive, to go with the one that we captured in scap and scatter. It would allow a group of ships withing range X to jump, and might be a non-gate way of getting around.

[tough jay]

Conjecture: The Small Fleet spotted withdrawing at the Hill Mine is grouping up with other bot small fleet to form a big fleet to hunt us down.

[halcyon spire]

Anything important recently?

[mossy flare]

Pathfinder found an ICBM, we continue plodding through space looking for problems to hammer

Venator have found a lovely little scuffle at C-Z

[mossy flare]

Here we go lads!

[hard sleet]

Ah shit here we go

Also why are the bombers out in front?

[mossy flare]

Oh god, the Aviary's weapons look changed

[hard sleet]

That’s. That’s a lot of bad news

[mossy flare]

oh we got swapped with the Corvus

Only one orbital looks like

10 squadrons of something

[hard sleet]

But that is a lot of enemy fighters.

[solar ravine]

Uuuuh... 10 blobs of something and a BC.
We may be slightly screwed.

And somebody tell Shack about the typo of Aviary's ID tag...

[hard sleet]

I’m kind of tempted to ask for the bombers to land.

[mossy flare]

We have our own fighters, we should be able to hurt them bad, plus fighters are gonna struggle against our armour

Also where's our repair ship?

Twisted Echo is missing currently

[solar ravine]

Assumedly just behind the Aviary, outside the screensnip.

[quasi crown]

Good, we will be surrounded that only makes aiming easier

[halcyon dew]

Nah man we saw that shit and ran lmao

[hard sleet]

This may be the time for Valkyrie to whip out those Sierra’s

[mossy flare]

definitely AA specialisation time to shine

[quasi crown]

Its been mentioned

Also glad we decided to push, that aero fleet is probably headed groundward

[hard sleet]

I am hoping our mechs can shoot enemy fighters.

[quasi crown]

They can

They are just range 1

[mossy flare]

that's almost all they can do

[quasi crown]

If they had ACs it'd up their ability to shoot orbis, but that is for next campaign

[hard sleet]

So we have mobile AA guns. That is reassuring.

[quasi crown]

They also act as reactive armor since they are targets in the square lol

[mossy flare]

Not very mobile

[mossy flare]

Don't let them hear you say that

[quasi crown]

But anyway, exodia should probably take the lead with our AA being the best

[mossy flare]

You'll need to prepped for an LRM strike as well

[quasi crown]

Fly bois its your turn to shine

[fluid cave]

Fighters. Time to shine

[quasi crown]

https://tenor.com/view/shiny-moana-tamatoa-sparkle-sparkly-gif-16985274

[solar ravine]

ngl, this might be a 'pop the flares' situation.

[mossy flare]

do the bot fighters have the same one shot limitation? We've not actually seen them do much more than die

[fluid cave]

Get all the fighters in range 1.

[fluid cave]

Not that we’re aware of

[quasi crown]

Bombers in the air may want to land

[quasi crown]

Probably worth scanning them

Also, they may be HATs or similar craft

[mossy flare]

They could drop back behind the orbitals, save some speed for an alpha strike once the way is clear?

[hard sleet]

We are going to all die or we are about to have the biggest dogfight since Titan.

[quasi crown]

Apparently they are at least 4 spaces away since we couldn't scan

[halcyon dew]

https://tenor.com/view/madmax-valhalla-nux-death-kamikaze-gif-10597613

[fluid cave]

Also important note for everyone.
According to Tabby we can transfer repair kits within the TF.

[halcyon dew]

I thought Shack said we couldnt do that? Or was that between TFs?

[calm talon]

I'm pretty sure I heard repair kits not being transferrable

[halcyon dew]

Same

[fluid cave]

Yeah

Let me check with tabby on that.

[mossy flare]

I'm going to side with the wife, you always side with the wife.

[fluid cave]

I would assume that as well, just want confirmation

Tabby is going to ask him later.

[tough jay]

Someone is definitely dying here chat

[mossy flare]

We don't even know if they're all fighters, they could be reinforcements in HATs or VTOLs

until they're scanned we assume the worst but we're mfing victorum we'll do this

[fluid cave]

We’re Victorum. We can blow that BC to pieces

Then we need to worry about the fighters, but we’ve got HMGs for that.

[quasi crown]

When we asked shack before he said no

Maybe he has changed his mind

[fluid cave]

I sent that to Tabby

[mossy flare]

As a note he's mixed the loadouts of Aviary and Corvus

[fluid cave]

She’s the only person I don’t ask for sourcing unless it conflicts with something we have in writing

[timid zinc]

There be lots of toasters

Do we keep our fighters at cap?
And engage the BC with guns only?

[mossy flare]

Would help to limit losses in our fighters if they stay close

We'll likely need a scan of the targets to identify high priority threats that might change that

[timid zinc]

if even half of that is a fighter then yea, we cant handle all that alone

[zealous palm]

My question, where is that frigate

[mossy flare]

So the smart move is we don't, flying cap should be enough to keep anything of our hulls for a while.

It's got to have just powered away, perhaps Tora has a repair facility

[halcyon dew]

I suspect that Tora is basically one big bot producing factory right now

[zealous palm]

Yah, if the BCs are standard, there's on cannon front, HMG port, 2 box launchers back that can fire boarders also, and something else.

So we might want to spend a LS and break out weapons to the fleet

[fluid cave]

We’ve got enough infantry.
I don’t think we need to do it yet.

[zealous palm]

Ok it was two HMGs port, and I think a MBC front plus two box launchers

Yah, just saying those contacts might be torps also

[fluid cave]

We have PD up right now.
Maybe we’ll get to shoot some fighters down

[timid zinc]

oi

[mossy flare]

So we can freely move between orbitals is that true?

[fluid cave]

Yes

[calm talon]

once per turn and it costs you a lot of speed

[fluid cave]

Basically treat it as your speed. Which you don’t need

Also I would assume vehicles don’t move

Just the crew/pilots of them

[mossy flare]

okay so it may be better for me to transfer to the most likely target of boarders before contact

[fluid cave]

No

We know you can transfer and fight.
Fluffle did it

[mossy flare]

But if I transfer before fighting I can dig in

[violet wharf]

Why are the bombers in front of the fighters lol?

[fluid cave]

You can’t dig in unless you’re at a point that’s been breached.
At least that’s my understanding.

But people have been digging in ahead of time so maybe it works

[mossy flare]

Exactly, If I'm on the orbital being breached at the time of breaching I have enough action to dig in before they assault

[violet wharf]

also, we need to get the rest of the aero up so no one dies

[fluid cave]

You could dig in when you transfer

On orbitals it’s a primary action

So you can do it or fight

[mossy flare]

I can transfer and dig in same turn?

-Defenders can use “Dig In” using a Primary Action aboard an orbital designating an entry way they are preparing an ambush. This gives the defensive effect of dig in effect. But only against attackers from that entryway. Doing anything else removed this effect.

[lyric turret]

Just woke up and I guess we assuming most those unknowns boarders or fighters.

[mossy flare]

we're prepping for a worst case scenario yes

[lyric turret]

Well Marines and probably gonna see some action

[mossy flare]

I'm planning for the worst, hoping I just end up manning some guns

[fluid cave]

Yes, Transfering isn't a primary action

[coarse oxide]

yay

ladies and gentlemen

we are now in a target rich environment

time to party

do we have mech repair bays?

[quasi crown]

Alexa, play freebird

[quasi crown]

The mech bay can be used to R&R

[coarse oxide]

sweet

Alexa, play The Only Thing They Fear is You

now im really hoping they get really close and personal

i just want to talk to them

nicely

i promise

[quasi crown]

"Oh these? Theyre my laser comms"

[coarse oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-meg-griffin-i-just-wanna-talk-to-him-put-that-gun-away-family-guy-gif-14677957

[lyric turret]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-zion-gate-mech-gif-25311112

[coarse oxide]

i wonder if we can prevent boarding actions...
like if a boarding transport or similar latches on can we just walk over and start shooting into the side of the boarding pod? like
"Hey guys cool Boarding Pod ya got there..."
"Unfortunately I AM going to be shooting through the side and into it"

probably better that the clankers die by me. the engineers have had their coffee rationed so theyre definitely cranky

[calm talon]

They would have to flank us for boarding pods to work.

Unfortunately their swarm bots don't need boarding pods.

[mossy flare]

The swarm bots probably will engage you first

[calm talon]

Fortunately they still have to roll to make a hole in the armor

[coarse oxide]

ah splendid.

[calm talon]

or should, in theory. assuming they follow normal boarding rules

[fluid cave]

The engineer can also fix you up.

[hard sleet]

Can engineers resuply fighters when the fleet is not being supplied

[fluid cave]

My HAT can

The engineer can repair you

[hard sleet]

So HATs can re arm. Cool to know

[fluid cave]

Well, maybe

I know you can rearm off my supply

[mossy flare]

As long as the TF has supply I've been told you can rearm yourself at a flight deck. Just takes a primary

[fluid cave]

The question was can you do it when not in supply.
I have 25 small supply on the Victorum.
A fighter can use their primary to rearm off that when the TF is not in supply

[calm talon]

The rules text around this area is a complete mess

of outdated references

[lyric turret]

Yeah does it preform like my medical supplies? Where i can just take.

[fluid cave]

I have 25 supply anyone can pull from if they are on the Avairy.
Fighters and bombers need a Primary to do it.
You and the Engineer can just do it for free

[lyric turret]

Maps are out just have ask for Unamed Light Freighter (not calling it Echo) to be added.

[fluid cave]

Sent the fixes we need

[halcyon dew]

https://tenor.com/view/table-hit-yakuza-hitting-table-walk-out-gif-15307369

[lyric turret]

Lol

So we diving in or letting them come to us?

[fluid cave]

How does this look?

[lyric turret]

So Exodia will take the brunt of return fire and boarding assuming we go with this.

[quasi crown]

Exodia should be in the front with her HMGs and mechs

Aviary should perhaps go south though

[calm talon]

Doesn't have to be front-front. HMG is range 2, mechs are range 1. Right behind Victoria would work.

unless orbitals block hmg fire for each other?

[quasi crown]

I think they do

[lyric turret]

Yeah need clear sightlines

[quasi crown]

Exodia should also be one hex in front/side of PV

[calm talon]

if we knew that ahead of time we wouldn't have fit so many side-fixed guns lol

[lyric turret]

Next question is the bombers and fighters.

[zealous palm]

Ok asked about map due date, assume it's due Thursday until told otherwise, so your orders due Tomorrow afternoon.

[lyric turret]

So do the bombers go for a run or hide behind the the big ships?

[calm talon]

Bombers can hide inside their hangars for safety.

We're close enough that they could launch next turn and still reach the BC for a strike

[edgy harbor]

Another battlecruiser? Another kill to add to the tally

I'll comms intercept it if someone scans it

[lyric turret]

Until proven otherwise gonna assume similar load out to Tormentor.

[hard sleet]

Ok. What is the fighter plan looking like?

[lyric turret]

Well if the bombers are safe I guess fuzzball?

[zealous palm]

Ok, confirmed, your orders due by EOD tomorrow, tac-com thursay

[lyric turret]

So Shack said unless Echo is needed this round not to worry. We can just hand wave them.

[hard sleet]

maybe instead of flying out to certain death and glory we stay close to fleet and provide air cover.

[mossy flare]

I think a scan is a good idea. I'll scan the smaller targets with Aviary's scanner unless I'm needed elsewhere?

There is a high chance we're getting aerospace assault of some kind next turn

[lyric turret]

Is anyone gonna man the open gun on PV? If not I'll take that one.

[mossy flare]

So maybe I go to Exodia or Victoria to prep for a boarding?

[quasi crown]

That would be good

[mossy flare]

If there's a free gun on Victoria I can take it then I'm ready if we are boarded as I can dig in and attack on the same turn

[lyric turret]

It's marked as unmanned

Gonna have ask which gun it is.

If I had to guess it's an AC.

[edgy harbor]

Yeah it should be the autocannon

[mossy flare]

Looks like the port AC

I'm going to man it for now, why don't you do a scan? Would love to get more details of those aerospace units.

[edgy harbor]

Don't think we are able to sortie air support to Venator as it stands currently

[lyric turret]

No

I believe they are trying to get Atlas to help.

[hard sleet]

I think we need every fighter on hand

[edgy harbor]

Even if we sortied them, I doubt the bots would let them go that easily.

[lyric turret]

Yeah we got our fight they got theirs sadly.

[edgy harbor]

I hope Atlas can provide the air support, we got an unscheduled bot battlecruiser decommissioning to do

[lyric turret]

Yeah just read through their (Venator's) chat. They aren't expecting us to help.

[fluid cave]

@mossy flare You're moving?

[mossy flare]

Yeah, I figured get onboard one of the likelier targets of a boarding attempt

[lyric turret]

Plus that gun was unmanned

[fluid cave]

Sounds good

I'm gonna run our Scanner then

[lyric turret]

Which one PV's or Aviary's

[fluid cave]

Aviary's

I'm moving back

[fluid cave]

Assuming this for movement

[lyric turret]

Im gonna be floating crew again in absence of unmanned positions probably will dig in on one of at risk ships.

[glad flume]

ok so Exodia goes first to engage the fighters/whatever with PDs, then CA and Vic move in to target the BC with exrteme prejudice?

my PD is rear facing so I cant do anything against fighers in front of me

[lyric turret]

Just throwing this out there. What if they try to leave the map to the north?

[fluid cave]

We're moving there

[lyric turret]

Ohh my bad thought we were lower for some dumber reason

[north crown]

Okay so this looks kinda bad

Do we think all those unknown contacts are enemies strike craft?

[edgy harbor]

I think we most definitely gotta kill this battlecruiser right here and right now, else things will get difficult for us if they group up with that 1 Battleship + 2 BCs squadron that will probably be going from Haydar Village to Ziyal city.

[fluid cave]

We fight here

[lyric turret]

Could be those boarding drones

[north crown]

Agreed we’re gonna take a lot of damage tho

[glad flume]

where are we seeing that squad?

[fluid cave]

That's what the we do

Dish out damage and take hits

[edgy harbor]

They were last spotted over the mines going to H-H in midrounds

[north crown]

Yup I know we just gotta make sure our repair ship is safe

[glad flume]

ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die

[north crown]

Worst case scenario and they’re speed three how long is that for the BB to reach us

I can’t see the map rn

[fluid cave]

Next turn

It's 5 speed to get to us from where they were.

[coarse oxide]

do we have any reinforcements or anybody that could make it in time to give support or repairs?

[north crown]

I’ll ask rabbit but unlikely

[fluid cave]

They'd arrive T6 if they're speed 3
They'd arrive T7 if they're speed 2
They'd arrive T9 if they're Speed 1

Assuming they come straight for us

[coarse oxide]

we are on death ground then

[north crown]

So be it

[coarse oxide]

wish we got the no retreat stellaris buff.

STRAIGHT SLUG FEST

[fluid cave]

We've got this

[north crown]

We can’t let them past us and taking a fleet this size on before it can combine with any others is actually really good for us

[coarse oxide]

is there possibly any flanking manuvers we could pull?

[fluid cave]

Not really

[north crown]

Not without opening at least one ship to being flanked in turn

[fluid cave]

The Fighters are the biggest threat to us

[coarse oxide]

as much as i like everyone coming out swinging.

[north crown]

Sticking together so all our guns can overlap is out best chance

[fluid cave]

We can destroy orbitals

[coarse oxide]

cannonball into the middle of the formation???

[fluid cave]

The PV will be doing that

It's just slow

[edgy harbor]

Highly doubt they are faster than speed 1, bot ships seem to behave like ours speed wise

[coarse oxide]

fighters and bombers pull out flanks?

[fluid cave]

I think Speed 2 is reasonable since we can speed boost, They might be able to too.

[lyric turret]

That hurt Frigate is still near too.

[fluid cave]

Within 2 Stragtegic locations

[edgy harbor]

If we can give our bombers a clean shot, then we may be able to alpha strike the battlecruiser in one turn

[lyric turret]

Gonna be risky

[fluid cave]

We could take the risk and use the flares

[coarse oxide]

you think we could bait that many fighters?

[edgy harbor]

Yeah

[coarse oxide]

i mean realistically Exodia has pretty Good AA.. i think

[keen yacht]

Oh a battlecruiser, this will be fun

[coarse oxide]

we could do like a sacrificial lamb type deal. get them all thirsty and give the bombers a really good chance

[north crown]

Hopefully next campaign we will get some dedicated AA boats but that won’t help us now

[keen yacht]

What if we get up close and do a broadside (terrible plan lol)

[coarse oxide]

only in the middle of battle do you hope for more things

[coarse oxide]

not the worst tbh

[keen yacht]

Oh

[fluid cave]

The 2 HMGs can only hit 2 targets

[coarse oxide]

count the mechs

[fluid cave]

True

[coarse oxide]

realistically 4 targets... me thinks

[fluid cave]

You'll be getting some use

[coarse oxide]

yay

reactive armor time

[north crown]

I wonder if we can convince the BG at the silo to send the missle now

[fluid cave]

We don't need it right now

[coarse oxide]

me likey

[lyric turret]

Dear God no

[keen yacht]

I think we can take on the battle cruiser fine

[coarse oxide]

love how im the only one who said yeah

[fluid cave]

Save it for when we push deeper or we start having problems

[north crown]

We csn all find out what kind of warhead it is together 😂

[coarse oxide]

best friends!

misery loves company lol

my only thought is how long will that BG stay there?

[old hill]

I think we should shift further south on the map. Right now, anything coming from L-A2 has a clear shot at us. We should move to range 4 to stay out of their firing range. Any ship with port-side AA should take the north flank to provide cover in case of missiles or boarders coming from L-A2

[north crown]

Makes sense to hold it but i really want more info cause if they have like three more of the murder frigates were gonna be in a world of pain

[fluid cave]

I think the PV chilling up there is great. They've got the guns to cover it

[lyric turret]

Have we seen bot bombers yet?

[fluid cave]

That that we are aware of

[lyric turret]

Because if not might be okay to ignore the enemy fighters and focus on boarding drones if we get more intel.

[fluid cave]

The risk of the fighters is to our bombers

[zealous palm]

Our biggest thing should be to ensure that the retreating twin battle cruiser and other ship can't flank us. Maybe swing south, then north, so our flanks are facing south or southwest

The ones at hill mine

They look to have been going to the city, and might pop up on the north edge of our zone in a turn or two

[coarse oxide]

man yeah... thats a lot of unknowns there

[keen yacht]

Maybe can try to encircle them, send one group north and another group south, and pincer them?

[solar ravine]

Bwah, so many unknown contacts... too many unknown contacts.

I have the defense flares, so if you need me to deploy those I can launch, but I really don't want to be out with that amount of tiny contacts about.

[zealous palm]

If your one of the torp bombers, it might be worth it to takeoff, fly forward 2, fire them, then circle back behind the fleet.

[glad flume]

i feel like Exodius moving ahead with the fighter squadrons to try to take out as many small targets as possible, followed with CA launching as many MBC shots into the BC as possible until PV can arrive and help clean up

bombers can come in either with CA or PV

[zealous palm]

Really we should hold back this turn, and let them move into range.

[glad flume]

THat is an option, but their LRMs have better range, and if they have breaching pods in that swarm we could be in for an issue

[zealous palm]

If it moves 2, the 39 line will be in range to both hit, and be hit

If it doesn't move 2, the 39 line can't hit

Since all cannons are range 2

[solar ravine]

Too bad we can't launch and land on the same turn, otherwise I'd just lob a speculative torp up north and see if it gets shot down.
... hang on, since the torp is its own speed 2 entity, could I just yeet it out the hangar while landed?

[glad flume]

if we all move into the 3920/3921 hexes, that could be goood. thats our BCs max distance as well

[zealous palm]

It would need to move to 4121 for us to reach.

[keen yacht]

Wouldn’t you need to be moving for a torpedo to work? And not close to the ground

[glad flume]

true but if it doesnt cannons can also fire at fighters. cannons have 3 shots a piece and less than a full barrage took out the first BC. clearing up some fighter screens could be good

[fluid cave]

We also need to be within 3 range of the BC to comms intercept it

[zealous palm]

True

[fluid cave]

I’d assume not

[solar ravine]

It's not in the Q&A, can't hurt to ask

[glad flume]

I think the full fleet moves to 39 line, and sets targets for BC, Bombers, Boarding, Fighters in that order

[fluid cave]

Sounds about right

I think fighters before boarders

We have a lot of infantry

[calm talon]

we don't actually know how fast the boarder bots are

[fluid cave]

The faster the fighters go down the more active our bombers are

[quasi crown]

I disagree, we don't know if they have reinforcements on the way

[fluid cave]

We should hit hard and fast

[quasi crown]

Its highly probable the heavy fleet in orbit is making its way towards us and that frigate limped away as well, so it could get repaired in a turn or two and join

we need to eliminate what is here fast before they form up with an equivalent sized fleet

[edgy harbor]

Divide and conquer, we must press our numbers/firepower advantage whilst we still have it.

If we end up in a disadvantageous position due to letting the enemy group up then we can't retreat very easily

[fluid cave]

We have no ability to retreat

[quasi crown]

Also their aeros can hit us where we are

We need to get PV forward to ossibly have range on the BC

I assume the BC is going to run tbh

[fluid cave]

Maybe the more damage we deal the better

[edgy harbor]

If it does and it groups up with that heavy task force then we have trouble in our hands

[rapid sorrel]

I can move to 3920 or 3921 but I can't get in range, especially if it turns tail

[fluid cave]

I think we should block the north.

That TF would come from there and the BC might run towards them

[steep jetty]

I assume I should be targeting fighters with my HMG(PV)

[quasi crown]

This is what I Think the formation should be

Allows CA & PV to fire on BC if it moves to 4121

[fluid cave]

The Corvus and Victoria should split up.
They can block arcs for each other if they’re too close

[quasi crown]

Exodia rotects the northern flank from the aeros

[quasi crown]

If they are side to side it allows 4 MBC shots forward

[fluid cave]

Hmmmm

[quasi crown]

Unfortunately most likely I think the BC is going to go to 4220

Judging by its angle I think their formation was flying through to the north

to L-A2

Thats Why I want exodia on 3920

[lyric turret]

So a pursuit course with a way to pull out if things get too spicy

[quasi crown]

if they are logi aeros exodia can shoot them if they try to run north

[astral tapir]

Also judging by how our sensors barely picked up the BC, they might not know exactly what we are bringing to the table. They might not want to risk it and could just leave.

[quasi crown]

I think that was because the sensors are range 3

so we couldn't scan

[lyric turret]

Yeah all the info we got are from mk1 eyeballs

[astral tapir]

Their sensors could be better but I was just thinking they might wary of what we are capable of and might not try to engage us directly.

[lyric turret]

We also have to consider that wounded frigate could have pass our info as it was running

[astral tapir]

True

[quasi crown]

With my map set up 4020 becomes an aero kill zone with 2 HMGs and 2 Mechs capable of shooting there lol

3 HMGs if exodia turns towards that direction lol

@zealous palm I think highlighting the HMG coverage zones may be a good idea. Idk why in our first fight they didn't shoot the missiles

[rapid sorrel]

Enemy ships might be understaffed?

[lyric turret]

It's possible since they have boarding/drop pods.

[rapid sorrel]

They're turning Lumarans into robot/cyborg people right? They might not have enough crew to fill out the whole ship, which may be why they didn't do everything they possibly could earlier

[lyric turret]

They didn't shoot the LRMs right away when Atlas engaged the first group

[rapid sorrel]

That's not to say they all are, that was just an expeditionary BC

[quasi crown]

for aero pilots I have marked zones that will probably be covered by enemy PD

[cosmic ledge]

Are we in supply

[quasi crown]

not anymore

We'd have to burn another LS

[hard sleet]

I was thinking aero just perform evasive actions infront of the the fleet and we send dagger on a side flank in case it turns out that some of those contacts are not fighters or bombers but instead transports.

[quasi crown]

Why? all the planes and guns are loaded

[lyric turret]

They can engage and do repairs the round after.

[quasi crown]

I think going north via 3920-4019-4119-4219

would be the best bet for aeros

For their HMG to cover that the BC would have to do a near 180

which Would be pushing the rules

[slow whale]

Why is my ship morphing even more? Did someone secretly install a experimental jump drive? Am I breeching alternate dimensions?

Also that is a lot of contacts. I imagine a semi even mix of fighters, bombers, and buzz droids.

[hard sleet]

Do the captains have an idea of where they want to move the fleet?

Because sending all our Aeros on that route is asking for boarders, bombers and flanking fighters to get in.

[lyric turret]

#1382036960356597963 message

[zealous palm]

I think cause no one said they were on anti missile defense, but yah, this time I'll spend some more time on the map, and color/show everything needed hopefully

[quasi crown]

Idk if all the fighters should go that way it was just what I see as a safe-ish path that avoids the Enemy PD

It also cuts off their path to L-A2

[hard sleet]

Let me grab my computer and draw my idea for squadron deployment. Not a good deployment but one that could work

[rapid sorrel]

Could split half and half

Half go up, half go down

[quasi crown]

Just bare this in mind when making your idea

[quasi crown]

I think only bombers really should go south. only because its a long trip and they are robably going to flee either north or west

[rapid sorrel]

Splitting bombers and fighters may not be a good idea, since that'd leave the bombers up for interception

[quasi crown]

Fair, but going south is unlikely for their units I think. since itd involve them doing nearly 180. Also some of our bombers do have flares

[rapid sorrel]

@north crown
@halcyon spire
You can feel free to fire if you want, since we fire at the end of movement, if that BC does move to 4121 those preliminary hits could be crucial to avoid damage

[north crown]

With how many aerospace the enemy has I don’t think going further from each other is a good idea

It leaves us open to getting bushwhacked

[quasi crown]

We were talking about the Aeros

[north crown]

Ah that makes more sense

[quasi crown]

https://tenor.com/view/battlestar-galactica-gif-25797525

bots pov

[keen yacht]

That battlecruiser about to be blasted by a the salvo of one of Armco’s biggest and best ships

Once we get into range

[rapid sorrel]

One of?

I think you're selling us a little short

[hard sleet]

I am so glad I am not doing digital arts because this stuff is hard. I can't even draw arrows

[rapid sorrel]

We're bigger than the Endurance, which was our flagship for a while

[keen yacht]

Oh really? That’s actually pretty cool

I thought the Endurance was bigger, did you save up a lot to get the battleship instantly?

[rapid sorrel]

Of course, I was the only one stupid enough to gamble 4 campaigns worth of Req on it

[thin fulcrum]

The Endurance is a cruiser

[rapid sorrel]

So there is that

[hard sleet]

Ok one of the aero fighter flight paths I was thinking of for evasive squadrons. (Please don't judge my ugly drawing. I am bad at this type of stuff.)

[rapid sorrel]

Because of SAMs integration, everything I had was melted down into Req. Since I'm a veteran of Haven, and onward, I ended up with 7 Req

[edgy harbor]

And I was the only one stupid enough to gamble myself into debt! I think we need to install a casino on the PV

[rapid sorrel]

Don't worry, if the ship goes down, you're a mandatory exfil

[quasi crown]

seems risky to me

[hard sleet]

Main point I wanted to ensure with it was that fighter could get the half movement they need to take evasive and on the off chance those dots are partly transports who are going to try and run past us.

[edgy harbor]

This is why we lack escape pods

Our ships are designed to win! Not to blow up

[rapid sorrel]

You could shoot me down, but let's be honest, as long as long as I get at least one more BC cruiser, I'm in the green

[lyric turret]

https://tenor.com/view/battlecruiser-vs-carrier-carbot-animations-starcrafts-starcraft-gif-15371835

[pure bramble]

wow how exciting all those contacts!

[pine ferry]

@edgy lance @gritty basin either of you got a specific flight path to follow? It seems we have a lot of targets

[quasi crown]

my recommendation was going north via 3920-4019-4119-4219 to dodge the possible PD field

[gritty basin]

not yet

I'll have a look

[halcyon dew]

Orbitals cant take the Evade order, right? I am thinking of ways to maximize my defences

[rapid sorrel]

I do not believe so

Best defense would be to stay out of range of the BC, and behind the HMGs

[astral tapir]

Okay so i will move to 3920, which direction would be the best to face?

[gritty basin]

Alright, is there like a full map or something I can't find?

Because the only thing I really have to go off of in planning is the little pieces we get in midround events

[quasi crown]

and here is the projected zones that will be under PD fire by the BC

[gritty basin]

thanks

can I get anyone else to rush the contacts at 4320 with me?

[lyric turret]

We are assuming the unknowns are a mix of enemy fighters and boarding bots. You be in pretty deep.

[calm talon]

we're within strike range of hostile fighters

[gritty basin]

which is why I'd prefer to have other fighters with me

[calm talon]

so you might as well hang near the ships and under HMG cover

[lyric turret]

As long as you know the risks.

Think im gonna Rp digging in as someone flipping a gurney near an entrance.

[quasi crown]

I mean if at least some fighters go deep it could either make the BC free for them to attack the rear of or split the enemy fighters

[halcyon spire]

That would be cool but I see the chances of that happening not being the best. But due to the fact that we loose nothing from doing so anyway, sure

[quasi crown]

May need you manning a gun tbh, I think the big guns can still hit the aeros if the BC doesn't come close enough

[lyric turret]

Yeah i'll be up well before due time so I can fill.

[north crown]

Can ACs target aero? I assume not right?

[quasi crown]

Nothing I can find says they can't

[keen yacht]

I thought they could

[fluid cave]

The Warren hit one

[coarse oxide]

Have we considered the possibility that they might pull back? Try to get more reinforcements?

[north crown]

If they do we can hold the jump point

[quasi crown]

I think that its a very real ossibility

[north crown]

If they’re smart I bet they will

[coarse oxide]

They’re clankers I don’t know if that makes them smart or not

[north crown]

Although previously they did just charge at us

[coarse oxide]

We can’t assume they’ll be one trick ponies

You think we could set up a decent alpha strike if they retreat? What are the chances they go the other way?

I’m talking LA2

[quasi crown]

Well last time they were trying to flee towards the planet but we killed them super fast

I believe they are going to to try to flee via L-A2

[coarse oxide]

If the fight takes us to the middle of more upper of the zone we’ll have bad chance of getting badly flanked

[quasi crown]

Which is why I want to cut them off by going north

[coarse oxide]

I mean it’s sensible but I’m worried about getting close to the northern gate and getting jumped out of nowhere…

[quasi crown]

I think we try to do a lot of damage and then we decide on whether we should chase dependent on our damage

[coarse oxide]

Chase them out the zone??? Harry them a little, but not get greedy. I feel like we’re massively over extended.

[north crown]

Ya last thing we need is getting surrounded by three different enemy task forces

We don’t have any powerful enough friendly task forces to chase after us

[coarse oxide]

Insane idea

What if we blitz the Alden gate?

Act like we’re going for the kill then skip out and see if we can blow or shut down the Alden gate?

Regardless I feel like we’re in a spot for a good little scrap.

Like realistically shack wouldn’t think we’re insane enough to push out into warp gate… right? Then we could use those missiles. Break down their supply chain

Or whoever’s running opfor

[north crown]

Can’t shack vetoed it in main chat

That’s where our allies are coming from

[quasi crown]

I'd rather do a blitz on the scrapyard to hoefully mess with their logistics

[north crown]

We destroy the gate we could trap them in alt space

[quasi crown]

The other gate?

the bot controlled one?

[north crown]

Let me try to find it

[coarse oxide]

Awhhhhh

Nuke the moon?

Like realistically

If we could mess with the logi i think we’ll be looking tidy.

Help the ground forces a little

Assuming they’re running off our logi rules aw well

[cosmic ledge]

What should I do

[fluid cave]

Doesn't say which gate

[coarse oxide]

Assume it’s Alden.

It wouldn’t make sense for us to knock our gate down.

[north crown]

They where talking about the bot gate further up so I think that’s the one he referred to

I think that wreckage field is where we’re gonna find the bot shipyards

Or over the moon

[quasi crown]

Having read his lore dump it seems like the gates aren't like stargates so the bots could just pop out at our gate if the other one is destroyed

Also... Makes me want an official lore section somewhere

[coarse oxide]

you think the wreckage field is their shipyards?

you think they even have shipyards

have we had any indications of the quality of their ships?

i wonder if stealth orbis were possible

recon in orbit would be grand

[north crown]

I’m pretty sure they either have factories or ship yards there

The moon definitely has factories

[coarse oxide]

You think the otters would be mad if we nuked the moon?

We’d probably need a special ops BG

Does anyone do that?

can i get a confirm if this looks good?

[fluid cave]

Looks okay

[edgy lance]

As your squadmate, you have my support.
Looking through the chat, I think Cael's route will serve us well.

[pine ferry]

im down for that

[edgy lance]

I'll put in my order

[hard sleet]

@timid zinc @zinc spruce y’all have any plans for this next round. I’m kind of tempted to just run CAP.

[timid zinc]

Yea I was thinking I'll stick to the fleet and not deal with that huge fighter blob defend them from bombers

[hard sleet]

Sounds good. Are we going evasive or flying normally?

[timid zinc]

i think we can go normal?
idk

[hard sleet]

I’m with you on that. I’ll draft up an order in a bit. Will probably have us sweeping infront of the friendly formation.

[hard sleet]

@timid zinc the map with red arrows is an advance order I was thinking Guardian could fly provided that the map with green arrows is ship movements. We would be staying within AA coverage and the flight path should have us intercept any of the fighters or boarders that are trying to get onto our ships. If anyone has any suggestions for a better CAP for the fleet please let me know.

[timid zinc]

I approve

[zealous palm]

just to double check @gritty basin @edgy lance neither of you want to target your missiles yet right?

[zealous palm]

quick reminder, you all have about 12 hrs left to submit orders

[mossy flare]

@halcyon spire I think you mean fire MBC 2 not reload right?

[zealous palm]

especially considering were not in supply this turn, unless we burn another LS, which thier's no point in doing

[violet wharf]

seems like suicide, especially since not all aero is coming

[violet wharf]

I like this (oops ping)

[halcyon spire]

😆 yeah, thanks for the ping

[violet wharf]

I feel like all aero should do this, so we don't risk loosing anyone

[mossy flare]

Free will

I agree our fighters on their own don't have the firepower to sweep through, but we can't stop them if they want to

[violet wharf]

of course

[violet wharf]

If there's enough aero doing this I'll join for the extra hit tank

[zealous palm]

ok, new info that might change aerospace plans, there was a question in fluffle's chat, asked to Tabby, that fighters and bombers cant strike targets that were scanned the same turn, so you might not be able to intercept those fighters if you make the full north attack loop. It's looking more and more like following Cael's loop, and sticking close to the carriers would be a better approach.

She's not able to confirm it, but it's leaning towards that being true

[fluid cave]

I don't think that's true

[zealous palm]

it's in Tac-Com comms, waiting for confirmation, we might be fine, and I'm miss understanding the question, just wanted to make it known

[tough jay]

who’s doing scanning duty and what are they scanning? Was thinking of taking Valkyrie Squadron to do a quick run and gun on 4121 to ID the enemy on 4221.

Don’t want that to overlap with someone else scan for unneeded redundancy

[zealous palm]

I'll probibly scan off the PV, targeting the enemy BC

[mossy flare]

Aviary Scanner's being run by Beacon on the BC

[lyric turret]

Yeah that order already in specifically they are trying to find out the loadout

[mossy flare]

Careful leaving the range of the orbitals, if you get swarmed by the aerospace assets ours aren't planning to move as one.

[zealous palm]

ok, then I'll scan the fighter wings

[lyric turret]

Looks like all guns crewed except Exodia

[zealous palm]

I checked the order sheet, it wasn't on it, but it's not fully populated yet

[mossy flare]

It is but Beacon is /technically/ aerospace so you need to scoot over to that section

[lyric turret]

I was counting from the orders placed

[zealous palm]

yah same, I moved it over, double checking orders and posting them to the sheet now

[pure bramble]

just double checking but I dont need to come back inside and help crew anything right?

[mossy flare]

I think ur very good chilling outside

shoot the little ships please

[pure bramble]

https://tenor.com/bXARt.gif

[lyric turret]

Nah you should be good. I'll cover a slot before you anyways.

[pure bramble]

thanks all

[fluid cave]

You can scan it as well.
You could target Hits or Armor

[zealous palm]

considering it takes a full action to get back inside, and that means you cant crew, yah

[fluid cave]

Does it?

[zealous palm]

good point Cobalt, yah I'll target it's Armor

[fluid cave]

Isn't the primiary use mech door?
So you then are outside and can attack that turn?

[zealous palm]

yah it was established earlier, it takes a full action to use the mech hatch, to enter or exit, and you cant do anything else really, and all the mech's have been outside since turn 1

[fluid cave]

Good to know

[zealous palm]

they might be able to exit, and fire on the same turn, but they cant enter, and then like man a gun, or load a round, or stuff the same turn

ok order sheet up to date, i'll be back on later

[slow whale]

I'll probably be moving 3821, good a spot as any, but I'm going to let the aerospace solidify their orders. Plus need to write up some RP and I'm a bit busy at the moment.

[kind oar]

So I've been having trouble following along. Is there a bombing run plan or should I retreat into the Aviary?

[fluid cave]

There isn’t a big one

We’re trying to figure out the contacts right now

You are welcome to stay in the air or land.
Neither is a terrible choice.

[lyric turret]

Depends if you want a "witness me" moment or not

[fluid cave]

You are welcome to charge the BC.
You may (very likely will) die and be intercepted so you won’t deal damage.

[kind oar]

darn I like living, guess I'll land 👍

[glad flume]

ok so what is the decision for this round?

[mossy flare]

That's a broad question, we're generally moving up to engage, sticking together to provide cover against the large number of smaller contacts.

Although I think at least one squadron is being more aggressive which could end up being interesting

@pine ferry that's a very aggressive move order are you sure you are happy flying through that much enemy fire with limited support?

[pine ferry]

three of us are headed out on evasive, we'll see what we can do

[cosmic ledge]

@quasi crown what should I do I am the engi on exodus

[mossy flare]

Best of luck then.

[glad flume]

@sinful latch @dusky dagger I would suggest tou you guys to fire cannons with the priority target in the decending order of BC, Bombers, Boarders, fighters. ofc its up to you guys, but that would be my suggestion.

@fierce sentinel this might be your first chance to use your HMG lmao. Keep them off our engines!

@fresh stream @lyric turret feel like we might encounter boarders. yall are the ground combat experts, so ill leave that all up to you lol. We could (id love this) also use you both to reload the guns every round so they can fire every round. my understanding is if the cannons order firing, and you guys put in reload orders, theyll be ready to fire next round again for continous fire. up to yall

[fresh stream]

I'll look at the map. Depending on how far we are I can reload this turn then prepare for boarders next round.

[lyric turret]

Exodia's guns are still open

[tough jay]

@amber dragon @heady void Risky manuever, we fly along this path on evasive, engage very shortly, get some ID on small targets, then book it to 3821, Land on Avairy who will be going there, and rearm/repair before figuring out future plan after gaining intel.

thoughts?

[solar ravine]

Welp, I'mma stay put for this turn. Too many bogeys.

[tough jay]

actually since you're free, are you able to help by using your primary action this turn to rearm, that way we can deploy and fire again with little delay next turn.

[solar ravine]

We still have people in need of a rearm?

[tough jay]

We will when this finishes and land in Avairy.

[solar ravine]

Hm.

[fluid cave]

Worst case you do nothing.
Best case you rearm 2 fighters

[quasi crown]

I haven't updated since last night been busy today will update when I get home

Can't rearm or reload this turn because we aren't in supply. Also everything is loaded and rearmed rn

[solar ravine]

Cobalt's going to be on the Aviary so we have 25 smol crates on there to do stuff with. Maybe.

[heady void]

rodger

[lyric turret]

@rare lantern @sinful latch you guys might want to get your orders in for your guns

@torpid gate

[edgy lance]

Correct

[lyric turret]

By my count got one gun on the Primo Vic

One gun on the Corvus Aurorae

Three guns on Exodia that all need manning.

[quasi crown]

Sheet is now caught up

3 guns on exodia are unmanned, 1 on CA, and 1 on PV

Still waiting on orders from:
PV: 2 Crew
Av: 1 Crew
CA: 3 Crew
Ex: 3 Crew
Bombers: 5
Fighters: 3

[hard sleet]

@zinc spruce want to fly protection for the fleet with us?

[zinc spruce]

Ye
I had my thing writen up just never hit enter lol

3820->3920->3921->3922->3822->3821->3921 Right?

What direction you want me facing at the end?

[hard sleet]

I think east

[zinc spruce]

Your facing west
want me same direction

?

lol

[hard sleet]

So I messed up

I forgot my directions

[zinc spruce]

Noticed

[hard sleet]

Lmao.

@timid zinc I think we are supposed to be facing east not west. I messed up my order. No clue if you want to change yours as well.

[amber dragon]

Yea why not

[cosmic ledge]

Which gun should I man

[quasi crown]

which ever you want, the MBC & HMG are still open

[solar ravine]

@zealous palm / @quasi crown
Permission to amend and repost my order?
Now that Freebird and Monarch have their orders in it makes more sense to try for the rearm they suggested.
We should have the supplies since Beacon transferred to the Aviary with a full hold of small supply.

[quasi crown]

just delete and resend

[solar ravine]

Resubmitted.

[lyric turret]

Alright gonna check in half an hour to fill up whatever is left

[sinful latch]

Working on it, was waiting on Laz

In

[lyric turret]

Alright what needs filling?

@zealous palm you gonna run the gun or Scanner on Primo Vic?

[fluid cave]

@solar ravine You’re stealing my supply?

How could you 😭

[solar ravine]

Does sprinting into your cargobay while going 'hey we're gonna need this in a minute' not count as contacting you?
Am confused.

[fluid cave]

Nah, you're good

Next time ping me so I know to drop the supply amount

The RP is 100% okay

[quasi crown]

Still missing 9 orders

@lyric juniper
@warped vessel
@violet wharf
@gritty crystal
@lilac meteor
@zealous palm
@neat loom
@teal rampart
@fresh stream

[lilac meteor]

New order round?

Whats the sitrep?

[north crown]

Lots of enemy ships

[quasi crown]

#midround-events message

[lilac meteor]

Think is safe for bombers?

[tough jay]

Not yet

[north crown]

We have no idea what those are so ya probably not super safe

[quasi crown]

so far all the bombers are staying inside the flight decks

[tough jay]

It’s all ripper droids

[lilac meteor]

Cool, ill play it safe then

[tough jay]

-# /j

[fluid cave]

@warped vessel can you preform an action to reload a fighter.
Just specify you’re pulling supply from the Beacon

[warped vessel]

Alright

[halcyon dew]

https://tenor.com/view/confederacy-of-independant-systems-star-wars-the-clone-wars-malevolence-thecisdidnothingwrong-gif-23076278

Cant wait for the battlecruiser to have one of these

[rapid sorrel]

I wanna fist fight a bot Battleship so badly

[fluid cave]

Melee weapon mechs on a Hull

[rapid sorrel]

"Drive me closer, I want to hit them with ny sword!"

[tough jay]

The Insane Mech driver just jumping in no grav onto the enemy ship then proceed to tear into it every turn

[zealous palm]

Yah I'm scanning the BC for it's hits and armor

just doublecheked, were still missing 7 orders

[north crown]

Don’t we already know it’s hits?

[zealous palm]

we know the general hit number I thought, let me double check

nope, no hit, no armor, nothing on that ship other then it's outline

for all we know, it could already be damaged, and that's an escort as it retreats for repairs

@lyric juniper @violet wharf @gritty crystal @neat loom @teal rampart we still need orders, your cutoff is the morning by 6AM Est for late submitions

PV Port MBC is the last gun needing to be manned

[fresh stream]

Finally home

[zealous palm]

random, were not in supply, so you cant reload anything

@fresh stream

[fresh stream]

Oh, thanks for the heads up. Changing it then.

[glad flume]

Don’t guns need to be reloaded every turn? They get 3 stored shots but need to be reloaded? Or am I mistaken?

[fluid cave]

Guns have 3/3 ammo.
When they are manned they can attack. If they attack they lose 1 ammo.
3/3 -> 2/3.
If they're below 3/3 and the TF is in supply they can be reloaded.
If they're at 0/3 they can't be manned.

[glad flume]

oh so guns can fire 3 times in a row without reloading?

[rapid sorrel]

Yes

[mossy flare]

Correct, something I didn't know either

Auto-Cannon CS 1 D4, AP1, Range 2, Reload 3/3 1 Req
Main Battle Cannon CS 2 D6, AP3, Range 2, Reload 3/3, 2 Req

[rapid sorrel]

Gives us a lot of leniency to time our resupplies for our aero as well

[mossy flare]

It does indeed

[glad flume]

Ok cool

[zealous palm]

@lyric juniper @gritty crystal You both are MIA and parked on the Aviary.

[fluid cave]

Wouldn't it be better to park them on their homeships?
So the PV and CA respectively?

Which is where MasterCrash is right now (The CA)

[zealous palm]

I said so cause that was where they last were I thought, if wrong they'll be parked where they were.

Ok, yah I transposed their assignments lol, last turn Knightmare was escorting, and Mastercrash was parked on CA as you say, so they will be just the same, not moving/changing.

I'll work on the map once I get home, I've already combined everything from the sheet, and prepped the text blocks on paper.

[edgy harbor]

Damn, Venator sure has got a tough fight ahead of them

[mossy flare]

Rather them than me

[edgy harbor]

I estimate about 2 more turns till that battleship squadron arrives at our current location. (God I hope we can take out this battlecruiser fast enough)

[mossy flare]

We've got a good chance in 2 turns

If those aerospace assets get cleared out of the way our bombers should have a wonderful time

[edgy harbor]

If I'm being honest, it is that swarm of areospace assets that has me concerned more than the battlecruiser. I hope our guns can keep up with that cloud of bots.

[mossy flare]

I think it should be pretty good, we have a lot of guns and our fighters should thin them out a bit too. Plus we can land and repair them right quick

[lyric juniper]

Thank you. Sorry about no orders, got kinda turbo-sick yesterday

I’ll be back this turn

[mossy flare]

Urgh turbo-sick

My condolences

[tough jay]

It’s probably not all bot fighters, there will probably be bot bombers mixed in knowing our luck.

[mossy flare]

Maybe bot transports too

[zealous palm]

I haven't submitted yet, so if you want to land just put in an order.

@lyric juniper

[edgy harbor]

How's the taccom map coming along?

[zealous palm]

I'm at work, have all the text worked out, but the map will have to wait till after work.

[edgy harbor]

Ok

[zealous palm]

Yah, if we had everything done on time yesterday I could have gotten the rest of the map done, the 5 orbitals are on it, and I think most of the fighters, just have to check the rest.

[north crown]

Oh wow those heavy gunships look dangerous

We might need to handle those

If we survive our current engagement

[mossy flare]

We're definitely surviving

[lyric juniper]

I did, landing on the Aviary, might as well hide among the point defence

[edgy harbor]

Rather it is more of a matter of how long we will be occupied by this bot encounter.

[coarse oxide]

do they have any infantry support?

just saw the midrounds

[edgy harbor]

Think maybe a little bit? As for the bots, it's like if someone spilled a bucket of legos worth of infantry for them.

[fluid cave]

They don't need it.
Those Tanks are much better

[zealous palm]

ok, orders posted

how do you guys like the RP?

[solar ravine]

Looks fine to me.
Wish I could torpedo the BC already, but there's no way in heck the torp would get through.

[zealous palm]

I mean, the torp would be one more thing they would have to shoot at/deal with, that's not us lol

too late now though

@quasi crown is pulled the adjusted flight system from order set 1, into the template, so going foward all the unit types, and squadrions, are grouped

[solar ravine]

... htf did I completely blank on that bit 🤦
Stupid me.

[quasi crown]

oky doke, I had grouped them based on which ship they were attached too

[zealous palm]

yah, but their working in squadrions, and look to be landing/taking off from the same ship if possible, so grouping them by squadrion make copying orders easier, since their working together, and have the same orders most of the time.

[void rivet]

Hold on, I see a Mage callsign on the victorum tac-map

...is that an ace combat reference ?

@edgy lance Ay, is your callsign an ace combat reference ? 👀

Or, well, just coincidence ?

[edgy lance]

you know it!

I only played AC7, yet the callsign I got to play with in the tutorial stuck with me

[void rivet]

HECK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[void rivet]

Same for me, I'm happy this wasn't a coincidence hahaha

https://tenor.com/view/ace-combat-ace-combat-ace-combat7-shattered-skies-gif-26348888

[halcyon dew]

Frenchie infiltrating this channel for once, instead of me infiltrating his 👀

[void rivet]

hewwo 👀

[void rivet]

god i was looking for that meme some time ago, thanks

yoink

[edgy harbor]

For me the funniest part of the meme has gotta be the part it included AC ||(air conditioner)|| and AC ||(Alternating Current)||

[void rivet]

lol

never noticed theses both

[gritty basin]

where are the cars and mannequin from?

[edgy harbor]

No clue!

[rapid sorrel]

Cars are probably Asseto Corsa

[void rivet]

confirm assetto corsa

[violet wharf]

might take losses with aero splitting up and all

[north crown]

I hope we can destroy this fleet in time to go help venator

[calm talon]

#meta-comm message

Confirmation relief fleets will be coming from the bot-held gate

[edgy harbor]

I uh, guess they really are gonna be brute forcing their way through a bot held system?

[rapid sorrel]

I'd suggest putting out a welcome mat for them but that'd depend on Venator's progress

[zealous palm]

Atlas is going to support Venator I belive

[edgy harbor]

If it comes down to it, I guess we of the Primo Victoria on our Venator looking ahh ship will just have to go and babysit our smaller ground siblings. 🤣

[coarse oxide]

When is turn deadline?

[rapid sorrel]

From Atlas

Dunno what that'd be your time, but I'm EST so I'm sure you can do the math

[fluid cave]

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[glad flume]

we havent gotten a midround for our situation, right?

[edgy lance]

not yet

[coarse oxide]

Argh, pain much.

[mossy flare]

We will today though

Besides he hasn't resolved any attack rolls just done movement

Plus he couldn't do us early because we hadn't had our tac-map submitted

[zealous palm]

Forget resubmitted, we didn't get it submitted in the first place until like 4pm yesterday cause of work lol.

[north crown]

Wow there’s a lot of death this round

[quasi crown]

TBF its the first turn that all of our troops have been active

[sage turtle]

It seems that rabbit has exited its transports like a shaken soda can

[north crown]

To be fair that’s kinda what I think we all expected them to do

[edgy harbor]

Death is inevitable in this line of work

[edgy harbor]

Something I noticed, that godamn Walker has more hits than a battleship...

[mossy flare]

Well it also doesn't have the same armour or armament

[zinc spruce]

THATS ALOT OF FIGHTERS

[mossy flare]

Fucking hell it's all bloody fighters, but they'll struggle against the orbital armour

[zinc spruce]

I don't feel safe as a fighter anymore lol

[lyric turret]

Good dodges

[mossy flare]

This is a worst case scenario considering our squadrons split like they did

At least the bombers are safely positioned

[calm talon]

This means next round when the fighters go back to R&R the bombers can swoop in

[mossy flare]

Wow, thank god they went in evasive

[zinc spruce]

I uh
I didn't

Guardian SQ Didn't so lets see how this goes

[mossy flare]

We don't know if bot fighters have ammo limits.

[gritty basin]

So I just got hit