choosing rtx card

[astral locust]

im currently have a geforce gtx 750 ti and thinking of getting rtx 4060 windforce oc or can i find an rtx card in same price range (300 euros)

[crude sleet]

What types of games do you play?

[astral locust]

i have a variety of games but mostly sim and would like to try archean

[crude sleet]

Are you also upgrading the rest of your system, if not what's your system's specs?

The reason I ask this is because the RTX 4060 has an PCIe 4.0 8x slot, and if you don't have that you lose out on performance, then it would be better to get like an 6700XT, which sometimes goes for 300.- to 350.- as well

Which is also way more powerful in raster performance games

[crude sleet]

In summary.

Nvidia RTX 4060 = PCIe 4.0 8x card will lose performance when scaling down to 3.0
AMD RX 6700XT = PCIe 4.0 16x card but can scale down to 3.0 16x without performance loss

[crude sleet]

Are you gonna use Raytracing?

[astral locust]

if i can yes

[crude sleet]

Then the 4060 will be a decent card

[astral locust]

i read some reviews saying oc is not good and others saying its good, so got confused if its a good buy or not

thanks

[vocal orbit]

That's not true you can run 1080ti tier gpus at x8 fine

The 6700xt tho is a better choice if you don't care about rt

[crude sleet]

But the 4060 will lose performance in 3.0 is what I said

I never said 1080Ti

The 4060 will go from 4.0 8x to 3.0 8x because it doesn't have 16 lanes

[vocal orbit]

It won't

1080ti doesn't
The 3090 doesn't at 16x gen 3 and that's 2x faster than the 1080ti

[crude sleet]

https://youtu.be/ptcHFG3QR88?si=CwfVJqYPc082hrS8

I call 10fps a performance loss

The 4060 won't scale down to 3.0 16x, it doesn't have 16 lanes like the other 2 you mentioned, the 4060 scales down to 3.0 8 lanes, because it only has 3 lanes.
I would agree if the card had 16 lanes, but it doesn't

If OP still rocked a PCIe 3.0 board then the 6700XT or 3060 would've been better

As both of those have 16 lanes

[vocal orbit]

Not sure what Nvidia have done to make pcie 3x8 equal 3x4 but what ever I guess

[vocal orbit]

If you are willing to buy second hand you might be able to get a 3070 for around 300

The 3070 is superior to both the 4060 and 6700xt

I know in the UK you can not sure where you are in Europe and how good your eBay market is tho

[crude sleet]

4060 will outperform the 3070 if you can use frame gen🙃

And the 6700XT can run double frame gen😅

[vocal orbit]

Big if

And frame gen is still so and so and so ATM very on or off if it's any good in a given game

It's alot better than it was atleast tho

[crude sleet]

I use to run frame gen on almost all games when I still used my 6700XT

[vocal orbit]

I doubt that

Mainly because you see half a visual artifact and you have a fit over it and frame gen makes alot of obvious ones Vs upscaling

[crude sleet]

6700xt supports Fluid Motion Frames, which means frame gen on all DX11/12 and Vulkan games

But I don't play games where input lag matters

[vocal orbit]

Yes I know

[crude sleet]

AFMF is pretty good, much better than Lossless Scaling

[vocal orbit]

It's allright

It's kinda hard to predict human input most of the time or to predict an unknown environment

[astral locust]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AERO-G-rev-10/sp#sp

These are the specs of mobo
Dont really think that there will be much loss

[crude sleet]

That board fully supports PCIe 5.0

[vocal orbit]

It's a very nice mobo

[crude sleet]

It is indeed

[astral locust]

yes and with the i9 14900 its quite good

only draw back there is my i9 doesnt support internal graphics and if i add a second gpu to the system it downgrades the PCIe

[vocal orbit]

2nd gpus just aren't really a thing anymore so that's not a huge issue

Also it'll only downgrade it to gen 4 I think there's not even gen 5 gpus yet

[crude sleet]

If you want 2 GPUs, you put the weaker GPU lower so it won't interfere with the stronger GPU

[vocal orbit]

The only reason for a 2nd GPU is to throw like an intel one in for their video editing thing and the lowest end intel GPU will require n on a X4 link without issue tiny little thing

[astral locust]

i would put the 750 just to watch stream and keep the 4060 for main monitor(gaming and rendering)

[vocal orbit]

Nah the 4060 would be better used for those

The encoders mean you won't loose performance GPU wise from streaming

[crude sleet]

I would use the 750 for a 2nd status display

[vocal orbit]

Same with decoders NVidias encode/decoders are great

[vocal orbit]

Don't really see the point tbh

[crude sleet]

Because then that display will use the VRAM on the weaker card😃

I use to do this when I only had 1 7900XTX and 1 6700XT

[vocal orbit]

Yea but just displaying video doesn't use hardly any

[astral locust]

well currently im using 25% of gpu with 1 stream and 1 youtube video

[crude sleet]

I mean, it's a 10+ years old, any integrated GPU is faster these days

[astral locust]

well for a 10 yr old card running most games on medium is good. there are a few games that are demanding but not much

[vocal orbit]

Yea that's because it's a potato

[crude sleet]

The AMD RX 780M, at it slowest is already 2 times as fast as the 750 Ti

[vocal orbit]

I can watch yt and use 0 percent of a modern one because it's offloaded to encoders on the GPU

[crude sleet]

That's how far stuff have come

[vocal orbit]

Gpus contain lots of little different processors

[crude sleet]

And yet, YouTube still uses a ton of resources

[vocal orbit]

The mist yt uses for me is ram and that's cos I use a chromium based browser and that's just what they do

It obviously hits my decoders on the GPU which increases power draw a lil but it doesn't impact performance

[crude sleet]

That's still resources😅

My Edge won't use more than 3GB luckily

[vocal orbit]

wel yea but thats not GPU resources

thats System ram