German dialects

[gusty holly]

well if you mean standard german with "high german" then yep🤡

[plain mist]

Standard German = Hochdeutsch
High German = Oberdeutsch and Mitteldeutsch (afaik)

[worn prairie]

There are no 12 dialects, there are 5-7 dialect groups that have numerous dialects within themselves. Nowadays a person from the south and the north can pretty much understand each other, depends on where you go exactly. I’d say only Alemannic is really incomprehensible for most people.

Also keep in mind that Austria has an own standard of Hochdeutsch, where different rules apply. Not too different, but not too minor.

[worn prairie]

Standard German is a variety of High German

Hence the “Standard High German” designation

[worn prairie]

Most young adults should be, but some are bad at it

[dense vortex]

Alright I see

[plain mist]

That doesn‘t interfere with what I said tho but nice addition

[worn prairie]

Well the contradiction is that Oberdeutsch (Upper German) does not equal High German, “Oberdeutsche Dialekte” are a subgroup of High German dialects which standard German is a part of

[gusty holly]

[gusty holly]

Most people can talk Standard German

[gusty holly]

Isnt the High German dialect group consisting of Middle German and Upper German dialects

[worn prairie]

Yes

That's why saying High German = Oberdeutsch is wrong

[plain mist]

Oops i forgot that middle German also exists

[worn prairie]

Life’s like that sometimes

[gusty holly]

If you mean the middle german dialects, they are part of the High German dialect group

[cinder hull]

do you happen to know why people merged middle german dialects to high german dialect group?

[cedar kite]

Hochdeutsch ist ein Oberbegriff für alles Dialektgruppen die südlich der Benrather Linie (maken/machen-Linie) liegen. Dies beinhaltet dann Mitteldeutsch und Oberdeutsch. Ich denke es kommt daher, dass das Mittel- und Oberdeutsche wohl vom Alt- oder Mittelhochdeutschen entstammt, aber hier kann man mich gerne korrigieren.

[dense vortex]

Hi, i wanted to ask about the german dialects. As far as im concerned about, the german taught in school is called the highgerman, but in germany theres like 12 different dialects and a person from the north can have difficulties to understand a person from the south if they talk in their own dialect: Is it like that?

[rough magnet]

Kinda

There are A LOT of regional dialects. They can even differ from the ones in neighboring villages

But if they are close together, you often can understand the ones you don‘t speak

As a rule of thumb: The further apart the two dialects you want to compare are spoken, the more differences there are and the more difficult it becomes for people that speak one to understand the other one

And defining dialects with hard borders on a map and rules against each other is very hard

[dense vortex]

Oh ok

but most of the people can talk the highgerman right?

[rough magnet]

Yes

[tired drum]

all germans learn Hochdeutsch in school, everyone should be able to understand each other, even through slight dialects. if not, they usually try to pronounce things more high german like

[rough magnet]

As it is taught in schools and the language of our bureaucracy

[dense vortex]

Oh then cool

thank you for the help ^^

[rough magnet]

No problem

[plain mist]

Everyone basically