knotty salmon
For example:
If you want to write Straße in all uppercase, do you usually write it as STRAßE or STRASSE ?
I’m asking about what form do you personally use most often, I’m not asking about what’s the standard (just to clarify my question)
Additionally, do you often see other people write it differently than you do ?
knotty salmon
ß is lower case. ẞ is upper case.
From my understanding it was the norm for every German speaker online to use the lowercase ß (since the uppercase ẞ was not available on keyboards)
The use of the uppercase ẞ only became «accepted» in 2017, but I imagine that most people kept writing either SS or lowercase ß out of habit
cobalt garnet
From my understanding it was the norm for every German speaker online to use the...
Why would people use the lowercase ß for that?
knotty salmon
Why would people use the lowercase ß for that?
Because the uppercase ẞ is a relatively recent addition that doesn’t exist on German keyboards
cobalt garnet
Because the uppercase ẞ is a relatively recent addition that doesn’t exist on Ge...
Yes but the correct way to spell it before uppercase eszett was to use SS.
knotty salmon
Are there German speakers today who extensively use the uppercase ẞ or do most people stick to the standard SS in all uppercase words?
(from your personal experience I mean)
echo glen
For example:
If you want to write Straße in all uppercase, do you usually write...
since 2008 we have glorious ẞ. on most german language keyboards (assuming mostly germany, austria, and MAYBE luxembourg, it’s realized by pressing ctrl+alt (or alt gr, instead of the two)+shift+ß (the key to the left of backspace in the case of de_DE), so i make sure to make extensive use of it. the standard replacement for it remains SS but if i’m able to type the more angular ẞ instead, i will.
in handwriting though i don’t think it makes a difference, it’s always the same old ß that looks more faithful to the greek beta than the ß in discord’s font
echo glen
Are there German speakers today who extensively use the uppercase ẞ or do most p...
at my workplace, it’s customary to write some things in full caps, and i personally make sure to use ẞ, but probably more than 95% of all german speakers don’t know how to do that on a computer keyboard, so for that reason alone, i think, it’s an almost even split between SS and ß
echo glen
Because the uppercase ẞ is a relatively recent addition that doesn’t exist on Ge...
not on the keyboard itself, but the de_DE (german of germany) layout on windows, for example, lets you write it by combining:
ctrl+alt+shift+ß
or, sometimes:
alt gr+shift+ß
i’m half sure linux allows that
too
on street signs, btw, it’s mixed
the modern white script on blue backdrop (aswell as the road signs using black script on a white backdrop) ones mostly use ß, but that’s because they only do initial caps
some streetsigns in some places, aswell as the name signs an ads of certain stores, are in full caps though, and there SS dominates
however, i have seen historical street signs in full caps before that use an old ſʒ ligature
vale ridge
some streetsigns in some places, aswell as the name signs an ads of certain stor...
Wonder why
echo glen
in fracture
echo glen
Wonder why
multiple reasons. for one there’s spelling conventions, and the other big reason is fonts. a lot of fonts you can find online will not even have a glyph for ß, let alone ẞ, so it will either be rendered in a fallback font or as a rectangular box.
to circumvent that, german speakers, for the past decades, have relied even more on SS
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