#Subleased room or accept the VSSW offer? Both at the same dorm but with a different price

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hardy violet
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I've recently got 2 offers to stay at the Pfaffenhof dormitory. One is from a tenant who wants to sublease his room. The other is from VSSW. Apparently, according to my conversations with the subleasing tenant, the rooms there have generally the same quality. The offer from VSSW is more expensive that the sublet, 17 more euros per month with 100 euros more for the deposit. Any ideas what to consider when choosing my option?

echo monolith
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Subletting dorms is (most of the time) not allowed, as it's governmental subsizied housing and hence not made for "giving it to others"

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Possibly you won't be able to register your address as "officially living there" if you take the sublet offer

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Regardless of that, sublets CAN be allowed in special cases eg if the main tenant is going abroad for a year for some student exchange - but then obviously it's timely limited, and you'll end up having to find a new flat once again.

So in your situation I'd absolutely take the offer directly with the STW (studierendenwerk), much less hassle

hardy violet
echo monolith
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Exception of what?

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Again, there are exceptions, yes, but they do not beat a direct contract with a state subsidized company in terms of security

hardy violet
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Then what is up with VSSW allowing the tenants to sublet their rooms?

echo monolith
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Yeah nvm they're not state subsidized

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They can do whatever they want

hardy violet
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Ah, private, i see

echo monolith
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I'd still take the direct one as again, less troubles that can show up

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Imagine the main renter suddenly wants his room back

hardy violet
echo monolith
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17 Euro is less than 2h of work

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Per month

hardy violet
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360 vs 377
400 vs 500 kaution
I don't even know what they're offering

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Right now im trying to ask whether i can get some pictures of the room from the landlords

echo monolith
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Yes. 17 Euro difference for peace lol

hardy violet
echo monolith
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Also you're aware internet eg isn't included right, there will be some extra costs anyways

hardy violet
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Idk, i just expected a bit of an upgrade with that kind of kaution ya know

echo monolith
hardy violet
echo monolith
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And Id trust a landlord more with my Kaution than a random tenant

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.... Of 100 euro? That's 6h of work

hardy violet
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There will be procedures for the sublet

echo monolith
hardy violet
echo monolith
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Peace of mind >>>> 100 euro. You do you

echo monolith
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So yes, any German company will pay you enough to cover that

hardy violet
echo monolith
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Sorry, 7 hours

hardy violet
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Ill think about it i suppose

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20 hours per week, 80 hours per month

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i hope that can recover my monthly allowance

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that is if i can even get a job, ahahahah

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@echo monolith , is there any potential that a higher kaution means a somewhat higher quality room?

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Or does it only change when the demand has changed?

echo monolith
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The Kaution depends on the rent of the place

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Not on quality

hardy violet
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Alright, dang 😔

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I got some thinking to do i suppose, and fast

echo monolith
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Also I've read a lot about this company on reddit and how some rooms / flats are full of mold and stuff

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So just look at them and uh take whichever seems better

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Potentially there's a reason why the tenant is trying to get rid of the room, u know.

And once you're there you can still move again if you find something better

hardy violet
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If i really need to clean up mold, so be it

echo monolith
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Beggars don't go to Stuttgart AceFingerguns

hardy violet
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and im a beggar from the beggiest of nations

hardy violet
echo monolith
echo monolith
hardy violet
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Again, we'll see, Because at this point, i cannot afford a place with rent 400 euros above

hardy violet
echo monolith
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And living room

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By NOT living in Stuttgart dogelaugh

hardy violet
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Bruh

echo monolith
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rage bait

hardy violet
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Well, i guess that's my monkey's paw for you

echo monolith
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Anyways though luck, let me know if you need someone to check a rental contract or internet contract or something

hardy violet
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Uni stuttgart accepts students with no german language certificate AND they do their own diploma equivalency

hardy violet
echo monolith
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Masters mainly

hardy violet
echo monolith
hardy violet
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RWTH aachen needs me to take the GRE while the other top unis are in german

echo monolith
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We do not have prestige in German unis btw

hardy violet
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There was one that has this ambiguous equivalency requirement

echo monolith
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The uni in Bielefeld is just as good as the one in Hamburg and the one in Stuttgart

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With the exception that foreign students focus on those 5 unis which raise the housing prices into oblivion

hardy violet
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Eh, sowieso

echo monolith
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False usage of sowieso

hardy violet
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no turning back now

hardy violet
echo monolith
hardy violet
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Ok, then what is it?

echo monolith
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It's a nuance difference I can not explain to someone on A level lol

hardy violet
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Bruh

echo monolith
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It has no 1:1 English equivalent

hardy violet
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If you're not explaining it, i will be using it without regard ya know, hahahaha

echo monolith
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Sure, do that

hardy violet
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Why do you have to be so passive aggressive sometimes m8?

echo monolith
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I'm not

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I've told you I can't explain it, that's it

hardy violet
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Alright, it feels that way sometimes when I'm talking with you

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Anyways, Better an offer than no offer at all

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besides, i have no SCHUFA document, i can't really house hunt in WG Gesucht because of that

carmine lichen
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Just tell them you're a foreign student and don't have one

carmine lichen
hardy violet
carmine lichen
hardy violet
carmine lichen
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If they need the money they won't be honest about anything

hardy violet
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Unless private establishments has immunities or, well, pulled strings

hardy violet
carmine lichen
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If they got punished for it there would be no mould

hardy violet
carmine lichen
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Who knows

hardy violet
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I thought Germany was supposed to be this near perfect and orderly country

carmine lichen
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Maybe the rent is low so the tenants chose to bear with it

hardy violet
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with paperwork to impede any sort of leeways, loopholes, and bad faith

carmine lichen
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Or they just use temporary fixes to make them go away like painting over the mould

hardy violet
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That has always been in my mindset for some time. I mean i know that the glamour of living abroad isn't always true, but come on, if America has OSHA, surely Germany has one of theirs right?

carmine lichen
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They definitely have an equivalent

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Osha doesn't cover anything either, there are still many terribly built American buildings

hardy violet
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Point is, i thought ignoring mold like that is more common in poor third world countries like us

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And more controlled and regulated in first world countries

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especially in private establishments

carmine lichen
hardy violet
# carmine lichen Uh no lol

you know how much of my people moved aboad permanently just because they hate it here, some of it when it comes to QoLs?

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How much they mocked this country for being sloppy, dirty, lazy, slow moving, and opportunistic, the bad kind of way?

carmine lichen
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Qol?

hardy violet
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I wonder how they are now, im guessing that being paid in euros helped them shut up

carmine lichen
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Well thats the reason people immigrate no? They don't like where they live

hardy violet
# carmine lichen Qol?

So things aside from the economy like housing situations, street conditions, public transportations and how well they're maintained, etc.

hardy violet
# carmine lichen Well thats the reason people immigrate no? They don't like where they live

Well I'm just a tad disappointed that i'd encounter the same QoL troubles there compared to here. These people spoke of these nations as flawless valhalla while they spoke of our nation as hell on earth. I guess I'm just tired of hearing that same thing, while in reality, problems abroad aint too different than here. The only big difference is that matters is that we're paid in rupiahs while they're paid in euros and dollars

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Feels, scummy

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The least they can do is not mock our country to oblivion and its people as if we're not trying to do our best here.

echo monolith
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Yeah Germany is not a "flawless nation". The issues remain the same. One example that's very simple to understand (in my opinion):
Kids in third world countries get bullied at school for wearing torn clothing, maybe not even owning shoes.
Every kid in Germany surely has shoes, but they'll get bullied for not wearing Nike or Adidas. I got bullied because I (as a girl) was sharing clothes with my brother, so I mostly wore boy-ish clothes. Mentally? Neither of those kids is off better

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In cities like Munich and Stuttgart it's not necessary for landlords to fix mold issues, because they WILL find someone to move in easily without fixing the issue 🤷‍♀️

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And if you do move in, and complain about the mold, they'll do a temporary fix like painting over it. You'll complain again? You're now on the red list and the landlord will do everything to try to get rid of you. You send health inspections, samples of the mold that you (expensively) gathered yourself as proof with a professional? They'll go "oh sorry yeah you're right. You have to immediately leave the flat because of the health hazard. We will terminate the contract immediately, compensate you with a month's rent so you can go into a hotel in the meantime. Bye!" - fix nothing and get a new tenant. Congrats, you're now homeless 3c

haughty isle
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If you're worried about stuff like this, it makes a lot of sense to join the Mieterschutzbund. They will help you protect yourself against predatory landlords.

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Also, I know it probably wasn't meant like this, but it comes across as pretty sheltered/privileged to claim that the mental situation of a child without proper clothes or footwear in an impoverished country or family situation is the same as one who shares clothes with a sibling in Germany. Maybe both get bullied at school, but the problems for the former go well beyond that.

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There is a difference, and that's part of the reason you don't see many Germans clamouring for a chance to move to Indonesia. Germany has problems, that's for sure, but the quality of life is overall quite high. Street conditions are good. Public transport safe and convenient, despite being late sometimes. Streets are clean. Worker protections are comparatively good, social safety net comparatively developed. Some middle ground between self-described third world and perfect valhalla 😉

hardy violet
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Someone said to me that some of them would alienate our people whove just moved

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Imagine that, being ignorant of your own kin

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Anyways, thanks for the tips, if there is a possibility to move to a better dorm, ill take it, but for now, ill take whatever offer i can get