#pursuing international law

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spice night
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Is it possible as an Indian student to start from studienkolleg and then pursue international law in Deutsch with B2 Goethe zertifikat?
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fervent bronze
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Yes, but it would be a terrible idea. You would study "Jura" and you will fail it with anything less than C2. Jura deutsch is something you have to learn in addition to your normal german langauge skills. It's a really bad idea to try this. Many native speakers have issues with understanding Jura deutsch

sharp jackal
spice night
fervent bronze
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You'd need perfect grades for that. And if I say perfect I mean perfect. ANd I don't knwo whether you can apply for medicine without math, but I do know that there is math

sharp jackal
spice night
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Oh ok, thanks

spare heart
# spice night Ah okay. And is it possible to pursue Medizin without mathematics?

I mean, amongst other things, you'll have some physics and chemistry during medicine courses, so while you won't have to study mathematics (as far as I'm aware), you'll need at least some. But you need some level of mathematics for a very, very large variety of university courses in Germany. All the natural sciences (and fields closely related to them, like medicine), computer science, a lot of the humanities (because they need statistics for surveys and studies), psychology (likewise), everything related to economics, philosophy (because of formal logic), ...

Now, you won't need the same amount of mathematics for those courses, but if you say no mathematics at all, that severely limits your options.

spice night
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No no it's like I just want to know what level of mathematics is necessarily a requirement for medizin course in specific. Like would basic knowledge about trigonometry- quadratic and linear equations and a very vague idea about integration and differentiation suffice or are higher level math concepts such as calculus, relations and functions etc also required?

fervent bronze
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Probably?
But it doesn't matter. You need perfect grades to study medicine in Germany. There isn't a shortage of people who want to study medicine in Germany and above average won't cut it.

spare heart
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Yeah, that's true. How proficient you are at school doesn't really matter for most German universities, but the school graduation grade average is king. And regarding all the courses, medicine and psychology are famous for being the most picky about them.

warped patrol
spare heart
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Well, German schools grade you from 1,0 (best grade) to 4,0 (worst passing grade), with comma numbers in between. If you find a course in medicine that accepts you with 1,2 grade average, they're unusually accepting. Usually, 1,0 is required to be admitted.

warped patrol
spare heart
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Psychology is similar, as far as I'm aware. It should be hard or impossible to find a course that accepts anything lower than 1,2.

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The required grade average is mostly dependent on how many people want to study that course at that university compared to how many seats they have to offer.

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And with medicine and psychology, a lot of people want to do that, while there are not nearly enough seats.

warped patrol
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Aha, it seems my gpa could made the cut off if it was still my plan. Thanks for the info and sorry for butting in. 😄

spare heart
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Oh, I have to correct myself, actually. I took a look at NC tables ("Numerus clauses", basically the grade average needed last year), and there are a few universities that offered seats in psychology with grades below 1,2. For Bachelor, the least requirements had Uni Hamburg with 1,7. I don't know if the table is accurate and up-to-date, though:
https://www.psychologie-studieren.de/infos/nc/

spare heart
warped patrol
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Does the gpa has to be flat and exact? I meant, if for 1,2, do they still accept an average of 1,26?

fervent bronze
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No, they might also give you a slot if you have a worse GPA. Especially if you can explain it with the death of a family memeber etc

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But it's less likely of course

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And lastly, if you already struggle with calculus and "simple" things like integrals than you'd need perfect A grades in every single other subject like GERMAN, english and a science and a social stduies subject

spare heart
fervent bronze
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Ah the question got hijacked

spice night
# fervent bronze And lastly, if you already struggle with calculus and "simple" things like integ...

Oh... actually it's more like I haven't given it a try, our education system gives us a choice regarding certain subjects so I studied phy Chem and bio along with psychology on higher level and left maths on the base level. Granted, I do know basic applications as they were required for physics and physical chemistry (although even then we had the availability of a calculator during exams so it's like yeah I haven't really gotten a good analysis of just how bad I might end up being in those) I did get 1,5 as per graduation grade and the thing is after the research I've been doing on the side I've been informed that for feststellungsprufung, we get the option of choosing between physics/maths and chem/bio whereas for aufnahmeprufung maths is necessary but only on a basic level (not involving calculus- functions and relations etc) so is that right?

spice night
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