I am from India and I want to pursue my further education in Germany. Where to start?

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Bachelor or Masters?

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Bachelors.

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What diploma do you have

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I am in 12th Grade.

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https://anabin.kmk.org/no_cache/filter/schulabschluesse-mit-hochschulzugang.html#land_gewaehlt

Check if you have direct entry first

So you've not finished school?

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No, but I will finish the school next year.

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When you're done, what certificate will you get?

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i want to ask smthng too related to this topic can i ask here?

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Yea sure

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12th Graduate Certificate, as of India, I do not know what it is called there.

But, this certificate states I have completed my school and I am eligible to enroll in any college program like BBA, B.com, etc.

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Check on the anabin website, pick your country and select which diploma you will get

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ok soo i want to do actuarial science in Germany. Do you know any good colleges for this?

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No unfortunately

Maybe check the daad website

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yeah will sure do
m giving rwthaa achen's entrance exam next year but forgot to check this one course i only checked for computar science lol.

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Picked.

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And? What does it show you

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Some information that are making me confused.

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Alright, which one did you pick?

Secondary school leaving certificate - after 12 classes?

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Second one.

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Yes.

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Then you must do studienkolleg

Or

Spend 1 year studying at a university in india

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My friend was telling me about it.

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What is studienkoleg?

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It is a prepatory course

For people whose diploma ≠ abitur

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Can you please elaborate? :(

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So, the diploma you have is not equivalent to germany's secondary school diploma

Therefore you cannot be accepted into a university with that diploma

The studienkolleg is an extra year that is used to prepare you for the FSP exam, which is equivalent to the abitur

Once you pass that exam, you can then ne accepted into a german University

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Alright. Thanks for this information.

So, I have to prepare for studienkolleg exam while staying in India for 1 year, right?

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No, you either do studienkolleg in germany

Or you spend 1 year of university in india

The 1 year of university = studienkolleg

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So, according to you, which option would be better for me?

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Well, I personally would choose studienkolleg

It's less stress, cause with 1 year you have to go through a whole evaluation thing

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So, can you give more information about studienkolleg, like what is the syllabus, requirement, etc.

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Syllabus idk

Requirements are mostly b2 german

Some accept b1

And your certificate 🤷‍♀️

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How hard is it to obtain B2 or B1 skill in German?

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From nothing?

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Yup.

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Well, maybe 2 years or so

It could be less

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If you're doing nothing but learning German that is

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@pine fractal Do you know about FAU Erlangen-Nürnberg?

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Yea

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(Sorry in advance for interrupting your thread forum, S.S.)

Hey imo, just wanna ask if this result of my degree, direct access, is equivalent to Abitur and therefore no need to do it?

[This is unrelated to uni studies but just curious in general about it since in Ausbildung either 2ndary school cert or Abitur is what they ask]

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What are the requirements?

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Studienkolleg

Preferably the one in munich

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It's direct access, no stk

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Suppose if I opt for 1 year stay in India? I want information on this part as well.

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You have direct uni access to any course

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Then, you will need c1 german

By the time you're done

Some ppl will say b2, but you will struggle

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I am not C1 in English, how is that practically possible? 😭

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Does direct access = having my degree equivalent to Germany's Abitur? 🤔

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No not always

I saw you put you've already studied?

At uni?

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🤷‍♀️

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If your country's diploma ≠ abitur but you've already studied for some years, it's direct entry

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So, where to start?

Practically, I cannot learn German in one year.

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I just checked, Philippines ≠ abitur

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Even for studienkolleg you need 2 years of study

There's the option of a language course before studienkolleg

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However, suppose if I complete my bachelor's first and during that time I learn dutch and opt for Master's in Germany, then will it be a good choice?

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That's completely up to you

Doing a masters in germany is very common🤷‍♀️

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Actually, I wanted to do a master's, but one of my friends is behind me and asking me if I can do bachelors in Germany only.

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It's up to you

If your german isn't good enough, you can do a lang course

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Honestly, I am thinking of opting for Master's only.

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Aha, I see. I was asking about it not due to interest to attending a uni in DE but rather doing an Ausbildung.

That part confuses me if my 4 year bachelor's degree is enough to apply for Ausbildung, since they ask either for secondary school leaving certificate or Abitur equivalent. 😅

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Germans don't use abitur for ausbilding

once you have your 10th grade cert you can do ausbildung

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Surely I can, but for that I have to give a good amount of time in learning dutch, meanwhile Indian parents do not like when their children are sitting at home and doing nothing.

So first, I am thinking of pursuing my bachelors from India and during my bachelors, I will give some amount of my time in learning dutch. This way, I can easily learn the language.

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Since its enough for direct uni access, it should be enough for Ausbildung @tranquil surge , cause ausbildung has lower reqs

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Phew, thanks a lot imo. 🙏🏼

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You just have to make sure your uni is recognised

I think you need a recognition cert or something not sure

From kmk

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I actually searched about that before back when my plan was to attend a uni, according to that website (ana something), there's both +/- symbol on my uni. :/

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Ohhh. They're the ones that check degrees compatability no?

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Yes

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https://zab.kmk.org/de/app/pre-check/pre-check

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Thanks, can I get a link of the website you use to check about the degree = Abitur equivalence?

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https://anabin.kmk.org/no_cache/filter/schulabschluesse-mit-hochschulzugang.html#land_gewaehlt

If ut says direct entry with no previous uni needed, then it equals to abitur

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Odd, our highschool here, the one I finished has 12 year education. Which one should I choose, that or the Bachelor above?

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I think the 1st one

Either way, both of them allow certificate evaluation

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Cool, thanks for the links!