Have you tried using Google Translate or DeepL?
#Confused about meaning of this sentence
echo zenith
worthy ravine
all the individual pieces are correct but the translation is not very idiomatic in english i think
echo zenith
I mean, context is king
worthy ravine
it really is saying "i wouldn't even let my daughter marry someone from the same country as us"
(Landsmann - countryman, someone from the same country)
echo zenith
The implication is, "I wouldn't even let my daughter marry someone from this country, (let alone some other guy from some foreign country or something)"
Where did you see this sentence? Surely it wasn't all by itself
yeah, so as suspected, the thing in parentheses is the implied second half
worthy ravine
the part that gets me is that the straightforward logical conclusion is he'd not let his daughter marry.... anyone? really?
echo zenith
I wouldn't even let my daughter marry (someone from this relatively trusted group), let alone (someone from a non-trusted group)
worthy ravine
not even a countryman -> certainly not someone from elsewhere -> who precisely is left?
maybe Landsmann without being in some yet narrower group maybe but ?
echo zenith
@wispy mason were they talking about a specific group, like Muslims or something?
It could be he meant, "I wouldn't even let my daughter marry a fellow countryman (who is Muslim), (let alone a Muslim from another country)"
again, more context would help
without more context, all we can do is speculate, my dude. But you've got the general idea
worthy ravine
It could be he meant, "I wouldn't even let my daughter marry a fellow countryman...
oh true, an exclusionary set like that could also give a result that isn't entirely nonsensical
not even someone who is [something unstated in the quote] and from the same country atleast, even less someone etc.
given the quote was in german, it's not an unlikely prejudice in the grand scheme of things
echo zenith
if someone is speaking German and talking about groups they don't like, Muslim is the most likely
See also: the AfD, an entire political party dedicated to the notion of not liking Muslims
but it could be any number of groups. A lot of groups are hated
worthy ravine
secondary clue btw: Landsmann isn't terribly common in the present day
more likely to be heard from nationalist people than not
uh pfff any equivalent phrase with "aus dem selben Land" or what have you
jemanden aus dem selben Land or jemanden aus Deutschland or einen anderen Deutschen or whatever
and/or Mitbürger
mind, Landsmann isn't inevitably nationalist or chauvinist in all contexts, certainly not
but it can come across as rather weird depending on context and message
e.g. you can open DWDS, type in Landsmann and find recent examples in regular newspapers that are completely un-noteworthy
ah okay then it's something slightly different
then the implication isn't "another [person from the same country]"
but "a person from [another country]"
i assume
it's ambiguous hilariously enough
[anderen] [Landsmann] or [anderen Lands]mann
if that makes sense to you
but yeah quod erat demonstrandum, it's a racist statement either way (
)
echo zenith
but yeah quod erat demonstrandum, it's a racist statement either way (<:pikachu:...
racists gonna race?
He's a native speaker
worthy ravine
racists gonna race?
lol. he draws the line at another country... like... that's more racist than the racist politicians would be willing to say they are? 🙈
racist certainly gonna race
yeah
echo zenith
not only against race mixing, against marrying foreigners in general
"racemix" implies marrying someone of a different race already, OP
usually implying white and black, at least in English
technically speaking, that person hasn't expressed an opinion on non-Blacks (like Asians or Native Americans or whatever), but chances are they'd be against other groups as well
echo zenith
outside of our culture, or outside of our land?
worthy ravine
depends on whether he ultimately considers Swiss and Austrians his Landsmänner i guess
literally it's "outside of our land"
echo zenith
let me put it this way
He probably wouldn't want his daughter marrying someone who is Turkish, even if they were born and raised in Germany
worthy ravine
Danes and Dutch should be right out
echo zenith
But what he's actually said is, I wouldn't let my daughter marry outside of our land
worthy ravine
i'll bet five quid he'd insist stubbornly that turks born in germany aren't true germans
worthy ravine
what a plot twist!
(not a huge plot twist but a minor one i guess)
echo zenith
he's saying he wouldn't let his daughter marry someone from outside of Albania, but he probably means (someone from outside of our culture), because he's confusing the two