Small question about german grammar

[outer ember]

You mean "ich mache das" instead of "dat"? I think "das" works

But "dass" is a Konjunktion, means it is used to connect sentences

Ich weiß, dass du Deutsch lernst: I know that you learn German.
This "that" does not refer to an object

@covert condor

[covert condor]

aaah thank you

Ich mache das is alright then

technically

[outer ember]

Yes

But not "ich mache dass"

[covert condor]

alrighty danke

[slow prairie]

"Ich mach' das!" is a common phrase!

(In speech, people leave out the "e" in mache, but it is correct to write it)

[crude pelican]

Nowadays, however, it is discouraged to apostrophise the omitted e in the present indicative first person singular and in the imperative.

[regal kelp]

Do you know the reason? It would be interesting.

[quick orbit]

There is many grammatical rules behind this but in the case of skipping just one letter, there is no need to add an apostrophe. It is mainly just set to help the reader to understand the meaning of the sentence, for example in "Hätten Sie's gewusst?". The inner flow of speech would stop at the word "Sies" if there's no apostrophe for most people 😄 but who knows what the future brings, maybe it will be without apostrophe generally one day 🫠

[outer ember]

But I actually still see them in song lyrics (I am sure there is in disney songs)

(not sure for other songs)

[crude pelican]

Yes, me too. It’s probably done for German learners to understand that the e’s are not omitted in the standard language, just in the vernacular.

[crude pelican]

I’m not sure, but probably it’s because there are forms like “weiß”, “sprich” and “muss” that don’t have an e either. Also, the forms without an e are more accepted nowadays and sometimes seen as an adequate variant: The Online Duden already lists both forms as the imperative of verbs where both forms exist.

[outer ember]

So you mean the imperative form with the "e" used to be the standard, and the one without the "e" is a new thing?

[crude pelican]

Probably, because the omitted e used to be mandatorily apostrophised in the standard language.

But I don't mean that the forms without an e were not already common in earlier times. @outer ember

[outer ember]

Yea I understand
I am guessing it's like it common to say "ich hab" colloquially today but not in standard writing, correct ? And maybe 200 years later, "ich hab" could become standard

[crude pelican]

Yes, in standard writing, you still write “ich habe”, but yeah, the e could obsolesce in the future

[regal kelp]

For me, but I'm not native, it's normal to see "sprich" or other imperatives without apostrophe, because, as you said, they are standard forms (listed by Duden, indeed). But "ich hab" is still colloquial, so I would tend to use an apostrophe to show that it should normally have an "e". Maybe it's also because we always do it in French, when we want to write colloquial expressions ; however, I can't find a good example where a final letter is dropped, because in French it's standard (cf. élision).
Anyway, thank you for your hypotheses.

[crude pelican]

“sprich” is the only imperative of “sprechen”, however.