One of my German friends told me this, what do you guys think of this?
#Is it true that it is near impossible to do the Testdaf without being in Germany?
safe saffron
strong inlet
One of my German friends told me this, what do you guys think of this?
I have no idea what made your friend think that. And I happen to know it isn't true. There are thousands of people every year who learn German to a high level while [still] abroad. 🤷
safe saffron
I have no idea what made your friend think that. And I happen to know it isn't t...
They claim that living in a completely German environment can be many times more effective than learning abroad
strong inlet
Well, what exactly are we talking about here? Passing an exam? Because that's formal language, vocab, grammar, nothing you can't learn out of books/from a teacher. Or are we talking about how to communicate with natives who are going to use slang/speak in dialect/mumble/slur their words? If you're persistent enough, you can learn to understand them by using VC here, or watching silly youtube clips. Or are we talking about how fast you'll progress in language learning? That would entirely depend on the person. Lots of people have been living in Germany for decades without ever really learning to speak German, let alone write it, while I personally know several people who acquired excellent German, written and spoken, within a few years while living thousands of kilometres away. 🤷
@safe saffron
arctic forum
They claim that living in a completely German environment can be many times more...
I achieved C1 (Goethe) in the first year of not particularly diligent learning and doing that all on my own
Spent 3 years in Austria later but didn’t spend much of that time socializing because I was busy studying so I dunno what’s an environment gonna give you if you can’t get it on the internet
safe saffron
Well, what exactly are we talking about here? Passing an exam? Because that's fo...
They might have a point regarding the speed at which you learn the language but from what I can see, it is doable
safe saffron
I achieved C1 (Goethe) in the first year of not particularly diligent learning a...
How??
safe saffron
Just like that
acoustic trellis
They might have a point regarding the speed at which you learn the language but ...
It doesn't really matter where you live. It depends how much you practice and what sources you expose yourself to. For example if you live on the other side of the world but you still spend your whole day talking in German to native speakers, there will be no difference to living in Germany and talking to native speakers there. It's just about what you're exposed to, not where you live.
candid sierra
I agree with the above. And in terms of speaking with natives, it's quite easy thanks to discord. I personally can go days speaking exclusively German even though I live in the US
warm forge
I achieved C1 (Goethe) in the first year of not particularly diligent learning a...
I also hvw Goethe C1 and it is actually a ton easier than TestDaF, depends for what you need it
A friend of mine learned A1 and A2 only the vocab on her own and started weekend courses only with B1 and the afterwards B2 and C1
just studying dilligently the vocab, writing and listening a lot, and using flashcards like anki are enough to get you there without that much trouble, but probably abt 10-15 hours a week for a year
the thing about TestDaF is that you need usually at least 4 points in ALL components, while for Goethe C1 you need the sum of the 3 non-speaking components to be above passing, which means that one part of the exam can compensate for your others.
And it is locally graded, so sometimes the teachers / examiners are nice.
out of my friends all that tried C1 did it from the first time, I’d say on the hardness scale it is about an actual level of B2 objectively. One friend told me that her classmate didn’t even study for C1 classes (only reaching B2 student books and trainings) and still achieved C1 Goethe
Just my 2 cents from experience.
safe saffron
out of my friends all that tried C1 did it from the first time, I’d say on the h...
Really??
That’s big news
zealous topaz
out of my friends all that tried C1 did it from the first time, I’d say on the h...
Not related to the question, but the Goethe exam is considered easier than other exams, which is why many universities require Goethe C2 instead of C1 as with other exams like TestDaF or DSH
warm forge
Not related to the question, but the Goethe exam is considered easier than other...
Yep, absolutely correct. Not all btw - in Austria all of them accept C1 as well as TestDaF; TUM accepts even Goethe B2, my university accepts C1… depends on what you need the certificate for.
I think Aachen accepts C1
like many of the very good ones
and pretty much all of the medium of the pack ones
Before starting to do something it is always best to spend a little bit of time to find out why you are doing the thing and weather it is possible to do it more efficiently and if you absolutely need to do the thing.
warm forge
idk where you’re seeing that
you can even get in with B2 and after 1 year of studying in German take the C1 test
here for example you can see for each subject the requirements, i think all of them accept Goethe C1 (usually law and/or German studies require C2)
this is another website
hope it helps
opps
ok my bad for TUM, last year I swear they accepted B2
now only C2 i guess