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[fervent kernel]

Falls du gehen solltest, nimm den Regenschirm mit. = If you might go, take the umbrella with you. Wenn du gehst, nimm den Regenschirm mit. = When you go take the umbrella with you.

You didn't ping him though 😦

[signal cipher]

Linked his website

[fervent kernel]

My bad

I thought you wanted to know the difference xD

[signal cipher]

I do actually:D Haven’t studied that topic yet.

[prisma hearth]

Ohhhhhhh so falls is used if the speaker is unsure about the result of the first clause

[fervent kernel]

You can use when too but falls is used more common

Basically wenn and falls means the same

And when is used more often when the result is clear

When (wenn) you go and if (falls) you go

[signal cipher]

So it’s similar to in case of?

[fervent kernel]

Falls/im Falle von

But in case of rather means "im Falle von" in German

[signal cipher]

Danke schön

[copper orchid]

why is this Meinem Mann here? Isnt Mann the subject here so it should be Nominative?

[signal cipher]

First one doesn’t have to be the subject.

[signal cipher]

Wie geht es “dir”?
Es is the subject

Some structures use dummy subject. I don’t know if it’s called dummy subject in German.

[fervent kernel]

Wem geht es nicht gut? Meinem Mann. Dativ (question word: Wem?)

[plush pelican]

Es geht jemandem (dative) gut/schlecht/etc.

This is a fixed expression. The person described is always in dative case, it's an object, with "es" as the subject.

As the other guy said, the thing in position 1 doesn't have to be the subject.

For example:

Ich gebe ihm ein Geschenk.
I give him a present.
Ihm gebe ich ein Geschenk.
Him, I give a present.

"ihm" being in position 1 doesn't change it being the dative object in the sentence, and similarly, your sentence has a dative object in position 1:

Meinem Mann geht es leider nicht so gut.

Es geht meinem Mann leider nicht so gut.

[copper orchid]

Ah okay thank you

I understand now

So can you say "Es geht meinem Mann leider nicht so gut"?

[plush pelican]

Yes, it's just less common. German seems to like having the person in position 1, even if they're a dative object

Hence "Mir geht's gut" instead of "Es geht mir gut"

[signal cipher]

First position is important, it’s emphasized. Especially when you write something which is usually not written in first position.

[fervent kernel]

Or just "gut" 😛

Jemanden mit Argusaugen betrachten.

[timber sandal]

Which online german dictionaries would you guys recommend? Especially for Anki Cards

[cursive spoke]

Yes, sorry, i will sleep, wrote some rubbish

[timber sandal]

And also dictionaries with good example sentences

[plush pelican]

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Pfad always has example sentences.

But they're not always good example sentences. For example, under "Pfad", it has this sentence (among others):

Anschließend stieg Freiligrath vom Drachenfels den steilen Pfad nach Honnef hinab, fand die Stadt aber als künftigen Wohnort nicht geeignet, da sie ihm zu weit vom Ufer des Flusses entfernt lag.

Additionally, Freiligrath climbed down the path from Dragonstone towards Honnef, found the city, however, to not be suitable as a future domicile, since it lay too far from the banks of the river for him.

Also: the search field for Wiktionary is case-sensitive. That means, if you search "pfad" instead of "Pfad", you might not return a result

So you always have to capitalize properly when using Wiktionary

[signal cipher]

https://www.goethe.de/pro/relaunch/prf/de/Goethe-Zertifikat_B1_Wortliste.pdf

[copper orchid]

"Meine Lieblingsveranstaltung ist Sham el Nessim. Es ist eine Ägyptisch Veranstaltung. Es ist Ostern sehr ähnlich. Es gibt viele bunte Eier genauso wie Ostern. Sie findet seit 2700 vor Christus. Am besten gefällt mir die Stimmung. Die leute sie zeichnen auf die Eier. Ich war noch nie dort, aber es klingt sehr schön. Ich höffe, dass ich einmal da gehen kann." I feel like there are a few mistakes (if not alot) with this text. Could someone check it?

[cursive spoke]

1. ägyptische is an adjective, so no capitalization
2. Sie findet seit 2700 vor Christuss statt. (stattfinden is one verb)
3. Leute (capitalization for nouns)
4. Die Leute zeichnen auf die Eier.
   "Die Leute" and "sie" can't both be the subject.
5. hoffe, not höffe 6
6. dahin gehen / dorthin gehen, but never "da hingehen", that is colloquial

[fervent kernel]

is tschüß better to use to say goodbye to people or is auf wiedersehen a better way?

[cursive spoke]

tschüss is informal

[fervent kernel]

Danke!

[timber sandal]

thanks!

[timber sandal]

thank you!

[cerulean terrace]

ich habe diese Sätzen geschrieben, können Sie es korrigieren? :
"Ich würde gern in einem Haus wohnen. ich brauche unbedingt drei Zimmer, einem großen Garten und eine helle Küche, in der kann ich kochen . Ich brauche auch einen hellen und großen Wohnzimmer. In dieser Wohnzimmer würde ich mit meinem Familie sitzen und reden. Wir können auch fernsehen. Das Haus , das ich möchte, sollte im Grünen liegen, weil ich die Natur liebe."

[delicate tiger]

in der kann ich kochen - Reihenfolge
Artikel von "Wohnzimmer", "Familie"

[plush pelican]

Ich brauche X
X = accusative case
"einem großen Garten" is dative, not accusative

"in der kann ich kochen kann"
This is a Relativsatz, a relative clause. Relative clauses are a type of dependent clause, which means the verbs are all at the end of the clause, in reverse order.

Ich kann in der Küche kochen
Eine Küche, in der ich kochen kann

"Wohnzimmer" is neuter. In "einen hellen und großen Wohnzimmer", you are acting like it's masculine, and then in "in dieser Wohnzimmer", you are acting like it's feminine.

Do you understand how adjective declension works for nouns of different gender?

In the first one, you need (Neuter, Accusative).
In the second, you need (Neuter, Dative).

https://www.germanveryeasy.com/adjective-declension

[cerulean terrace]

Thank you for the correction☺️. This is the table I was missing. I knew gender, Akkusativ, Dativ, Genitiv when it comes to definite articles but not to indefinite articles. I'm learning by myself so do you have any recommendations for me when it comes to improving my writings? I would be grateful ☺️

[plush pelican]

Keep in mind, that is only one table. Click on the link, there are 3 tables in total for adjective declension

how an adjective is declined is different depending on if there is:

1. a definite article (der/die/das) in front of it
2. an indefinite article (ein/eine) or a possessive pronoun (mein/dein/etc) in front of it
3. nothing in front of it

[stuck gyro]

im going to have a speaking test in a few days
How can i answer these question starting with ich?

Wie lange lernst du heute für die Uni? I
Wann besuchst du deine Groβeltern?
Wann triffst du deine Freunde?
Was machst du morgens?
Was musst du heute machen?
Was willst du am Wochenende machen?
Kannst du gut Auto fahren?
Kannst du schwimmen?
Wie spät ist es jetzt? Wie viel Uhr ist es jetzt?
Wann hast du Geburtstag?
Was hattest du zum Frühstück?
Wen lädst du zu der Geburtstagsfeier ein?
Wann fängt die Feier an?
Bringen deine Gäste etwas mit?
Warst du gestern zu Hause?

[plush pelican]

On the subreddit r/WriteStreakGerman, you can submit one post per day to get corrected.

I'd also suggest checking out YourGermanTeacher youtube channel, they talk about various basic grammar topics in good detail

[plush pelican]

Is the plan to just memorize answers for every question?

[stuck gyro]

No
i just want to understand the meaning of every question and google translator aint helping

[plush pelican]

DeepL is like Google Translate, but better

Try that instead

[stuck gyro]

bet

thx

[cerulean terrace]

Thank youuuuuuuuu 💜💜🌸

[signal cipher]

I suggest you to focus on endings of these words (definite article, possessive pronoun etc.) you will see a pattern in gender-case combinations. Instead of memorizing all words you can just learn the base word and endings which are repeated.

[cerulean terrace]

Do you mean the end of words like those which end with "e" "ung" "in" are mostly feminine? And then if it is feminine we have "eine " "die " (der in Dativ) and so on ?

[signal cipher]

Masculine endings of:
Dative possessive article -em
Dative possessive pronoun-em
Dative definitive article -em
Dative indefinite article -em
Dative negative article -em
Relative pronoun-em
…

Dem, meinem, keinem etc.

You will see patterns

[cerulean terrace]

Okay I will try to memorize the patterns to make it easier . Thank youu 💖

[hushed dawn]

Hallo, gilt dieser Satz als höflich/unhöflich ?

Ich wollte/möchte Sie darauf aufmerksam machen, dass ... (weiter)

[cursive spoke]

insert "höflich" between Sie and darauf then it's better

[hushed dawn]

Okey 👍

[lilac hornet]

Lasse ich mich als Prinzessin vorsprechen oder spreche ich als Prinzessin vor (für einen Film, usw)?

[cursive spoke]

Letzteres

Vorstellen =/= vorsprechen

[lilac hornet]

😠

Deswegen frage ich immer bei euch nach. Vielen Dank

[cursive spoke]

Maybe both is used? Ive only heard the last one.

But not with reflexive

Sie lässt mich als Prinzessin vorsprechen.
Maybe that is acceptable, but again not relfexive, makes no sense

[median timber]

Sind die Sätze korrekt? Was ist der Unterschied zwischen den?
Ich spreche nicht Deutsch.
Ich spreche kein Deutsch.

Ich lerne nicht Deutsch.
Ich lerne kein Deutsch.

[whole portal]

Ich spreche nicht Deutsch. -> I don't speak German,
Ich spreche kein Deutsch. -> I speak no German.

[copper orchid]

Im learning how to use weil. I'd appreciate it if someone could check if my sentences are correctly written.

Er ist traurig, weil er die Prüfung nicht bestanden hat.

Ich habe nicht gekommen, weil ich krank war.

Carmen isst nicht in der Mensa, weil das Essen ihr nicht smecken. (Is nicht placed correctly?)

Sie hatte einen Unfall, weil sie zu schnell gefahren war.

Aziz studiert in Berlin, weil er bei seinem Onkel dort wohnen.

Ich bin morgens immer müde, weil ich zu spät schlafen gehen.

Er hat die Prüfung nicht geschafft, weil er hat nicht genug getan.

Meiers können keine Reise machen, weil herr Meier arbeitslos ist.

Die Straße ist gesperrt, weil es einen Unfall gegeben hat.

[whole portal]

Prüfung is a noun -> capitalized
kommen is a verb of movement here -> Hilfsverb sein
The correct conjugation is schmeckt and the word order is not wrong but unusual, usual would be ... weil ihr das Essen ...
Correct conjugation is wohnt
Correct conjugation is gehe
... weil er nicht genug getan hat.*
Herr, again noun -> capitalized

[steel patrol]

Is it „Ich arbeite beim Vertrieb“ or „im Vertrieb“?

[silver fjord]

when we use Konjunktiv II ( like hätten) we can not use any other verbs just like ich hätte einen hund

but i see some sentences like wäre ich früher aufgewacht

why we used perfekt form at the end ?

[fervent kernel]

This construction expresses a wish

It simply is as is

Wäre ich früher aufgewacht,... - If only I had woken up earlier

[pure crescent]

im Vertrieb

[plush pelican]

The idea that you can't use any other verbs, is wrong

Ich hätte meine Hausaufgaben gemacht, aber ich war zu faul.
I would have done my homework, but I was too lazy.

In Perfekt tense, you have two verbs, right? The helping verb at the start, and the main verb at the end in the Partizip 2 form (aufgewacht)

Ich bin heute morgen um 9 Uhr aufgewacht.
I woke up this morning at 9 am.

So that is a statement of fact

With Konjunktiv 2, you express a hypothetical, something that you hope to happen (but hasn't happened yet), or something you had hoped to happen (but it didn't happen in the past), or whatever. It's a situation that has not actually happened, is the main thing.

So, you can do the same sentence, but make it hypothetical:

Ich wäre heute morgen um 9 Uhr aufgewacht.... (wenn mein Wecker nicht kaputt gewesen wäre).
I would've woken up at 9 am this morning.... (if my alarm hadn't broken.)

An example with "hätte" is probably easier.

Ich habe mit meinem Bruder gespielt.
I played with my brother.

Ich hätte mit meinem Bruder gespielt....wenn er wach gewesen wäre.
I would've played with my brother... if he had been awake.

So, you can in fact replace that helping verb with Konjunktiv 2, in order to turn a real situation, into a hypothetical situation

Hope this helps

Sorry if it's confusing 😅

[wide walrus]

if anyone is comfortable can they dm me “ich habe nichts zu tun” and help with my own pronunciation? i sound like a complete foreigner when i try to say it and im working hard to try hide my accent

[night dagger]

#pronunciation

[night dagger]

accents are fine; I understand the sentiment of wanting to reduce an accent as much as possible in order to always be clearly understood, but just know that having an accent is 100% ok :)

[wide walrus]

thank you

i was looking for that channel and couldn’t find it

[wide walrus]

also thank you again

[viscid nest]

Does anybody know how to use umlaut on a PC or laptop? on google it says i should use Alt + code and turn on the numlock but its not working for me, can anyone help me Dankeschön

[delicate tiger]

">faq keyboard" in #botchannel

[south zenith]

You could use alt codes but sometimes alt codes won’t work on like keyboards without a numpad, but I thinks it’s easier to download a different keyboard layout like the English international layout or the German QWERTZ layout

[manic raft]

How do I know if a irregular verb changes their vowel into present tense?

[snow gyro]

like "geben" → du gibst ?

you can't know, that's irregular behavior. If I were you, I wouldn't worry about it. Just keep exposing yourself to German and eventually you'll just remember it automatically.

[neat crater]

is "Ich würde glücklich zu antworten" correct?

oop it's missing a verb isn't it, so sein at the end?

[slate yoke]

Entschuldigung

dürfen

• Ich darf
• Du darfst
• Er/Sie/Es darf
• Wir dürfen
• Ihr dürft
• Sie/sie dürfen

There is triple "Sie" of which two are define with uppercase "S" and one is define with a lowercase "s", what exactly the different between that Sie/sie? btw Vielen danke in advance!

[deep thicket]

Sie is the polite way to say you
sie means "she"

[neat crater]

or they

[deep thicket]

nope

what sentence exactly are you trying to translate

[slate yoke]

ohh ja? so the Sie is for the formal situation, and du is for the informal, like we talk to our friend or else?

[deep thicket]

"ich wäre glücklich zu antworten" would mean "i'd be happy to answer"

[deep thicket]

exactly!

[neat crater]

well, this, but isn't it also fine with sein at the end

[signal cipher]

Sie is both Plural formal you and singular formal you.

[deep thicket]

uhh no

[signal cipher]

Sie Formal You (Plural and singular)
sie She and They

[deep thicket]

why would you add the "sein"?

[signal cipher]

Would be

[deep thicket]

what

[neat crater]

würde = would
I would happy to answer be
Ich würde glücklich zu antworten sein

[signal cipher]

Adding sein to mean that be do not seem so illogical to learners

[deep thicket]

well you dont need that in this situation

your "additional" verb is "antworten" in this case

you can't say "ich würde antworten sein"

but it works without the "sein"

[slate yoke]

ok vielen danke

[neat crater]

no?

zu + verb doesn't count as a normal verb

[slate yoke]

vielen danke ✋

[deep thicket]

.

wäre

[neat crater]

I get that there is a thousand better ways to say it I want to know if its gramatically correct

[deep thicket]

your sentence is incorrect

[delicate tiger]

(just to make it clear, that's a too literal translation that nobody would actually use)

[deep thicket]

huh wieso

ich würde das voll sagen

[delicate tiger]

wat?

[deep thicket]

why would nobody use it

[delicate tiger]

Wie wäre es mit "Ich beantworte gerne Ihre Fragen."

[deep thicket]

ja aber da geht es nciht um eine frage

sondern eine generelle antwort

nicht bezogen auf eine frage

[delicate tiger]

"Ich antworte dir/Ihnen gerne"

[deep thicket]

joa oder so

da sind eh tausende sätze die das gleiche bedeuten

aber ja das würd auch passen

[copper orchid]

was ist los?

Mir geht es nicht so gut, Ich habe Zahnschmerzen.

Das tut mir leid. Bist du zu einem Arzt gegangen?

Nein. Ich habe Angst vor Zahnarzt.

Aber du solltest zu einem Arzt gehen. Diese Angst ist nicht gut für deine Gesundheit.

Ich höffe, ich muss nicht zu einem Arzt gehen.

Ich hoffe, es ist alles in Ordnung. Auf wiedersehen.

Auf wiedersehen.

Ist alles in Ordnung?

Nein, ich habe Mageschmerzen.

Das nervt. Bist du zu einem Arzt gegangen?

Nein, ich habe Angst vor Operationen.

Aber du solltest zu einem Arzt gehen. Diese Angst ist nicht gut für deine Gesundheit.

Hoffentlich muss ich nicht ins Krankenhaus gehen.

Hoffentlich hast du nichts Schlimmes. Bis Bald.

Bis Bald.

Could someone check if these 2 convos are correctly written? Thank you in advance

[silver fjord]

bro

yo are the best person that i know on this word exist

i owe u so much thing

and also if i use partizip2 version of werden

will it have a meainging like will have v3 in englich sometging like that?

[outer edge]

es schmeckt alles sehr lecker
in that phrase, would it be wrong if I say instead: Alles schmeckt sehr lecker?
I don't understand the "es" in that sentence

[whole portal]

Everything tastes nice vs It all tastes nice?

Specific vs generic here

With some context they can basically mean the same, yes

[outer edge]

does the 2nd option sound odd?

[whole portal]

Not particularly

[outer edge]

thanks

[copper orchid]

could someone check these texts?

Gestern hatte ich einen Unfall. Ich bin auf der Straße gelaufen. Ich habe eine Katze auf einem Baum gesehen. Ich habe versucht, auf den Baum zu klettern, aber ich bin hingefallen. Ich habe meine Hand verletzt. Meine Hand hat ein bisschen geblutet, aber es war nicht so schlicht. Ein Mann hat den Krankenwagen gerufen. In der Notaufnahme war es sehr voll. Im Krakenhaus hat mich der Notarzt untersucht. Ich habe gehofft, das ich muss nicht Operation werden, weil ich Angst vor Operationen habe. Zum Glück war meine Hand nicht so schlimm. Ich konnte nach Hause gehen, bevor mein Vogel zu hungrig geworden ist.

And this one too if you have time but any help is appreciated

[young bane]

Wenn ich aus Wellington komme, würde mich das nach Memphis führen?

[cursive spoke]

I would say the es in your sentence is just a placeholder-es because of alles, without it, not

[signal cipher]

https://yourdailygerman.com/meaning-es-ist-german/

[slow island]

Hello, what is the difference between these two books? I preferred the 2nd book, but I don't really know the difference between them, they both seem the same.

[neat badge]

one is a dictionary and the other is more about perfecting your language like spelling etc etc

[copper orchid]

.

[whole portal]

I think this belongs in #writing

[signal cipher]

When we use gemusst?

Partizip 2 modal verbs

[plush pelican]

almost never

Most people just use Präteritum instead of Perfekt

And even if you had to use Perfekt or Plusquamperfekt, modal verbs do the Ersatzinfinitiv where instead of Partizip 2, they are written in infinitive form

Ich habe das machen müssen.

Ich hatte das machen müssen.

[signal cipher]

Gemusst was in the explanation of futur 2 Passive modal verb

[plush pelican]

like I said, "almost never", 😅

That's a tense and voice combination so rare most native speakers can't form it properly

[signal cipher]

So if I learn it I can be C3 in the future 😎

C2+

[plush pelican]

Go straight for C4 🧨

[plush pelican]

From 11.3.2:

[signal cipher]

I saw used alone examples on tatoeba

[plush pelican]

It did say in the first picture that Partizip 2 can be used if the modal verb is totally on its own

But idk how often you say "Ich habe es gemusst"

[signal cipher]

Wir haben nicht (zu) warten brauchen. I couldn’t understand this example

[plush pelican]

The larger section is about verbs that use the infinitive without zu

We didn't need to wait

[signal cipher]

Don’t or didn’t?

[plush pelican]

didn't, whoops

Maybe I didn't fully understand it, either, 😅

[signal cipher]

Why we write zu before warten

I never saw zu Infinitiv with double verb

[plush pelican]

If you do it in present tense, it's probably easier to understand

Wir brauchen zu warten

We need to wait

Wait, here comes the native speaker, 😄

[signal cipher]

So we put brauchen at the end. It’s not part of zu+infinitive

It’s just after it

[pure crescent]

Ohne es gemusst zu haben, habe ich trotzdem dein Geschirr gewaschen.

I guess????? but nobody would say it like that

[plush pelican]

yeah, when you have small Infinitivsätze (the zu + infinitive), you can optionally "enclose" them within the "verbal bracket"

The verbal bracket being the conjugated verb on one side and the Partizip 2 on the other

Ich habe das gespielt

[slow island]

I chose the second one to use as a dictionary, I got the right one, right?

[plush pelican]

Trying to find the section on Infinitivsätze being enclosed

[copper orchid]

I think writing is for bigger texts? I'm definitely not sure tho but I've asked people to check my writing here several times before

[plush pelican]

Er schien den eben Angekommenen zu erkennen

Das Boot drohte zu kentern

Sie gab uns zu verstehen

Sie brauchten die Sprache nie zu erlernen

[stone remnant]

hello. i wanted to ask about if there is a specific channel to ask about studying in Germany

[delicate tiger]

#1033125270217048246 ?

[stone remnant]

thanks

[acoustic breach]

Im zweiten Satz hier steht es "den 5. September". Ist das im Akkusativ?

[fervent kernel]

Yes

[acoustic breach]

Why

Jk i mean

Die Familie kommt Montag <- Dativ, but the date is still Akkusativ?

I can understand how the other sentences work but the 2nd and 3rd

[plush pelican]

dative?

[acoustic breach]

"Die Familie kommt Montag"
Is Montag Akkusativ?

[night dagger]

Ja

[acoustic breach]

I feel stupid now but I have no idea why it's Akkusativ.

Is it because there is no "am", so it follows the rule like "(diesen) Montag"?

[night dagger]

It’s accusative because of the Akkusativ Zeit thing

[fervent kernel]

You could fill it out with "am"

"Am" is optional

[night dagger]

When a preposition isn’t provided making it Dativ, time defaults to Akkusativy

[acoustic breach]

I see

[night dagger]

Read the question again; that wasn’t being asked or disputed.

[fervent kernel]

Ik

I did

Just pointed it out sorry

[signal cipher]

Why these is no am? What is the difference?

Or an den etc.

I don’t know which one fits

[night dagger]

I would bet there is a good chapter about that in Hammer grammar usage, but other sources online that mention it. You can try it for yourself tho, anytime you are not using a Dativ preposition, you will notice the time specification is also accusative. Er geht den nächsten Tag, er geht jeden Tag, usw

[acoustic breach]

Got it. Thank you @night dagger !

[plush pelican]

Not every time

If you talk about an indefinite time, like "once upon a time", "one day", then it becomes Genitive

Eines Tages, eines Nachts

[night dagger]

True

[acoustic breach]

It wont be "an den"

For days of the week, you could use "am xxxtag", months would be "im xxx"

But according to the example in the picture, I dont think there is any difference in meaning with or without am

[plush pelican]

Which also has the "fun" feature that "Nacht" uses the masculine Genitive inflection, despite being feminine 😵‍💫

[night dagger]

That’s a fixed phrase tho

[plush pelican]

Fixed wrongly

it's annoying

[fervent kernel]

[plush pelican]

Here's the section on time adverbs in accusative, btw:

[night dagger]

Nice

[signal cipher]

Can’t I use Cyrillic alphabet here?
There is same thing in Bulgarian. I explained but server didn’t let me to post.

[plush pelican]

I have no idea about Cyrillic

[tiny scaffold]

Maybe in #other-languages ?

[fringe stirrup]

Question for anyone that knows the answer:
Which one is correct? viele neuen Freunde or viele neue Freunde
and: viele meine neuen Freunde or viele meine neue Freunde?
And please explain why if you've got more time 😄

[pure crescent]

well, depends on the context. but th declension in th first option is not internally consistent (should be vielen neuen Freunden) while in the latter it's consistent.

the second, both is incorrect. what are you trying to express? I don't know that so I can't find explain what's the matter. and what's th context?

cannot believe I'm unable to write "the" today, apparently...

[fringe stirrup]

Thank you for the explanation. In the second example I wanted to say "a lot of my new friends" and for the context: "a lot of my new friends share my interests".

[cursive spoke]

Rule is

1. Prepositional phrase with AM + Apposition in Dativ
2. Adverbial Akkusativ + Apposition in Akkusativ

You got option 2 there

[cursive spoke]

First one is "viele neue Freunde"
With "viele meiner neuen Freunde", "meiner neuen Freunde" is in Genitiv, it's partitive Genitiv (dudenband 4 nr.1620)
What that means is that "viele" sort of stands on its own...

[pure crescent]

viele meiner neuen Freunde (Genitiv!)

[vernal marsh]

Hat jemand xbox? Ich möchte gern zocken

[hushed dawn]

Hallo Leute

Ich schreibe einen Lebenslauf und brauche Hilfe.
Wie wird "Batch" auf Deutsch beschrieben ? Also ich meine die Üniversitäts Gruppe, die zusammen in einem Jahr anfängt und nach dem Studium zusammen absolviert ?

[brave harbor]

Das haben wir hier nicht. Sag einfach Jahrgang 22 zum Beispiel.
In meinem Lebenslauf steht es so:
Universität xyz - 2020-2024 - bachelors of science subject

[hushed dawn]

Okey, Vielen Dank

[hushed dawn]

Soll ich die Zertifikate übersetzen, oder so schreiben, wie sie sind ?
z.B.
International Trauma Life Support (American Safety & Health Institute)
oder
"Internationale Trauma-Lebensrettungsmaßnahmen (American Safety & Health Institute)"

[delicate tiger]

Ich würds auf Englisch lassen (und für unbekanntere Sprachen Original + vereinfachte Übersetzung)

[hushed dawn]

Okey

[signal cipher]

Ablehnen
Absagen
What is the Unterschied?

[brave harbor]

Absagen is usually canceling a plan that was already made.
Möchtest du am Dienstag mit mir essen gehen?
Nein (Ablehnen)

But if I say yes, then I get sick on Monday, I'll have to cancel the plan I initially agreed to
Ich muss leider absagen!

[rose siren]

Would it be "Ich hasse mathe , obwohl Ich gute noten bekomme" or ****bekommen

[signal cipher]

Danke schön

[fringe stirrup]

Thank you!

[fringe stirrup]

Thanks again!

[delicate tiger]

capitalization matters!

[signal cipher]

When you change the position of the conjugated verb because of the conjunction, it still stays conjugated.

But math is good. Learn the proofs too. You will understand better.

[cursive spoke]

nice patronizing

[plush pelican]

"Ich" doesn't get capitalized when it's on its own in the middle of a sentence--it's not like the English "I" in that regard.

[signal cipher]

What do you mean

[random minnow]

What is the difference between woher kommen and wo kommst?

I thought it was formality when used with Sie, but there's a sentence example that uses Sie with wo leben as in "Wo leben Sie Frau X"

[steel patrol]

I think you’re asking about the difference between woher and wo?

[random minnow]

In effect yeah

[steel patrol]

If so then woher = where from

Wo = where

So “woher kommst du / woher kommen Sie? - Where are you from?” But “Wo lebst du / wo leben Sie? - Where do you live?”

[random minnow]

Woher bist du? "Where are you from?"
Wo bist du? "Where are you?"

Would that work?

I know you'd usually use kommst

Just wondering if those sentences would work

[signal cipher]

Hin - from here to away
Her - from away to here

[gloomy tartan]

Beispiele für Gesetze, die durch die Volksinitiative durchgeführt worden waren sind...

Have I used "durchgeführt worden waren" correctly here? 😬

[fervent kernel]

I'd just say "durchgeführt wurden" and use a comma between the two words: "Beispiele für Gesetze, die durch die Volksinitiative durchgeführt wurden, sind..

I mean you can write it like that but it sounds a bit odd imo

[gloomy tartan]

Awesome man. Yeah, I'm not a native speaker, and the "worden waren" always sounds so strange to me

[candid crystal]

I have a question
In this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxSRQ_pV8Y&t=17s
There's a sentence: "Manch einer nimmt da lieber Bürgergeld"
I can guess the meaning (many people prefer Buegergeld), but I don't understand the grammar behind manch einer

[fervent kernel]

It basically means "One" as in "one/a person rather takes welfare benefits" or "some would rather take welfare benefits"

[signal cipher]

What is that “da”?

Here?

[delicate tiger]

"unter diesen Umständen"

[signal cipher]

How can just “da” mean that

[small ridge]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_particle

[daring wing]

hello. know the word Mehrwegflasche exists. can we use the "prefix" mehrweg for other words like : Mehrwegtüten ... ?

[small ridge]

Yes

[daring wing]

thank youu

[small ridge]

But it's not a prefix

[daring wing]

yeah i know i just didnt know what to call it that's why i put in quotation marks 😅

[cursive spoke]

You could call the first word(Mehrweg) the "Bestimmungswort" (the determining(?) word), and they both make up a double-word, a compositum

[warped oriole]

It's like "in this case".
Oh nein, es regnet. Da nehme ich lieber den Regenschirm mit.
It's almost like "dann". I guess

[signal cipher]

Can it be used like let?
For example:
There is something over there. Let me have a look.

[warped oriole]

I don't know what you mean. Sorry.

[signal cipher]

Your example sounded similar with a thing from another language. Asked to see if it’s similar or just this usage. Thank you so much for your help.

[warped oriole]

I mean, let me=lass mich
I don't see what "let" has to do with "da" 😅

[signal cipher]

There is something like soft versions of these
Should
Let
Can
Want
Etc.
You understand from context

[copper moss]

what is the difference between werden wurden ??

[void estuary]

wie kome ich in chanel rein zu lerne

[delicate tiger]

faq limited permissions

[stoic mauve]

How to join Voice Chat

Please read the [Roles section](#getting-started message) in #getting-started for info on how to join VC and more!

[acoustic breach]

"wurden" is the Präteritum form of "werden"

"werden" as in "to become"

Der Apfel wird rot: the apple becomes red

Der Apfel wurde rot/ Der Apfel ist rot geworden: the apple became red

"werden" as in a Hilfsverb to describe Passivsatz

Die Tür wird geöffnet: the door is being opened

Die Tür wurde geöffnet: the door was being opened

[tiny scaffold]

Wie sagt man ''Romantic Music'' auf Deutsch? Ich meine nicht Musik über Liebe, sondern Musik aus der Romantik (1800er Jahre oder so)

[brave harbor]

... Musik aus der Romantik I think that's the only way to be clear about it

[tiny scaffold]

😭

Okay lol danke

Verständlich, weil ich immer auch erklären muss, wenn ich diese Art von Musik auf Englisch beschreibe :p

[copper moss]

can it come as futur form ??

or wunsche form

[cursive spoke]

you mean "würde"?

[copper moss]

yeah does come in a wish sentence like
ich würde gern Arzt sein

[cursive spoke]

sure

[copper moss]

okay thanks🫡

[thorn zodiac]

Came across this whilst reading Blue Lock, just wondering why its ihr kleinen Fische, is something being omitted? I cant figure out why or Im having a moment or something

"Aus dem Weg, ihr kleinen Fische"

[cursive spoke]

That is "Anredenominativ" (Anrede-Nominativ), it counts as a sentence, hence the Komma

English has the same... Kevin alone at home(?): "You filthy animals!"

[plush pelican]

"kleinen Fische" is Nominative? When do you ever add -en for Nominative?

[thorn zodiac]

I looked up some examples and they were all regular nominative endings so i have no idea whats up with my example. The plot thickens

[plush pelican]

If you just look at a simple adjective declension chart

https://www.germanveryeasy.com/adjective-declension#Weak-declension

There are only 2 times when you add -en in Nominative:

1. Plural, definite article "die guten Kinder"
2. Plural, indefinite article/possessive article "meine guten Kinder"

This definitely isn't #1

"ihr kleinen Fische" could almost be #2, except "ihr" would then need to have -e

and in that case it would mean "her/their small fishes"

So this makes no sense according to German as I know it

"Blue Lock" is a translation, right? I think the most likely explanation is the translator fucked up

[delicate tiger]

"[Geht] aus dem Weg..." is ommited at the beginning

[plush pelican]

That still doesn't explain "ihr kleinen Fische"

"ihr kleine Fische", I would understand

"Fische" is plural, yes?

"ihr" isn't attached to it, right?

That means it's strong declension

[fervent kernel]

In diesem Satz handelt es sich um eine Anrede an die Fische, die als "klein" beschrieben werden. Das Adjektiv "klein" muss hier im Plural stehen, da es sich auf die Fische bezieht, die mehr als eine Person darstellen. Daher wird "kleinen" verwendet, um das Adjektiv "klein" mit dem Plural der Fische in Übereinstimmung zu bringen.

[inland maple]

der Fisch und die Fische

[plush pelican]

Aber "kleinen" passiert nur mit gemischter oder schwacher Deklination, oder? Das heißt, es muss vor dem Adjektiv entweder 1) ein bestimmter Artikel, 2) ein unbestimmter Artikel, 3) ein Possessivartikel stehen.

"ihr" ist weder 1 noch 2, und ich dachte, es war auch nicht 3

[pure crescent]

Ich kann es dir nicht erklären 😦 aber es ist richtig so, wie der Blue Lock Übersetzer es geschrieben hat.
Aus dem Weg, ihr kleinen Fische
Aus dem Weg, du kleiner Fisch
Tretet ein, ihr hübschen Katzen
Blätter um, du holde Maid

[inland maple]

der kleine Fisch und die kleinen Fische wird oft in der Finanzwelt verwendet und bedeutet kapitalschwaechere Firmen

ansonsten kann man dies auch in der Prosa finden wie in Gedichten oder im Kindermund

[plush pelican]

Hammer's wird das hoffentlich irgendwo erklärt haben

Ich habe es gefunden

Hammer's German Grammar 6.1.3(h):

Es erklärt nicht, warum das so ist, nur, dass es so ist

Es ist außerdem höchst verworren, denn manchmal wird da starke Deklination benutzt, manchmal schwach, alles ohne richtige Erklärung bzw. Rechtfertigung dafür

https://grammis.ids-mannheim.de/fragen/3167

Was für eine Scheißsprache

[delicate tiger]

Ich spreche sie nur, ich lege die Regeln nicht fest ^^

[fervent kernel]

Oha Argus 😦

[plush pelican]

Ich meine, wie sollte man sich sowas merken?

Das Adjektiv benutzt schwache statt starke Deklination:

1. Wenn, vor dem Adjektiv ein unabhängiges Personalpronomen steht, aber
2. das Personalpronomen muss nur erste Person Plural (wir) oder zweite Person Plural (ihr) sein, und
3. das passiert nur im Nominativ.
4. Das alles ist leicht anders, wenn das Adjektiv nominalisiert wird.

Das ist eine unfassbar spezifische Ausnahme

[plush pelican]

Ich gebe dir keine Schuld, ich beschwere mich nur über diese unlernbaren Ausnahmen

[delicate tiger]

hatte ich auch nicht so verstanden

[cursive spoke]

You can look up a table

It makes me happy to see that youre using ids grammis

Their valency dictionary is really great, but not large enough yet, such a shame

[cursive spoke]

Another source: Dudenband 4, Nr. 1529

[plush pelican]

I know the table, the issue is not the table itself, it's knowing that in that incredibly specific situation, you should use weak instead of strong declension, despite it otherwise being strong.

[plush pelican]

Is that available online?

[cursive spoke]

ebook somewhere sure

Theres not much more information on it than in your source though

[chilly harbor]

Why is "Liebst du deinen Hund" correct but Lieben Sie deinen Hund false?

Also why can't I post photos?

[charred harbor]

Because the second sentence has two completely different pronouns

[charred harbor]

Because you just joined, there's info on it in #getting-started

[chilly harbor]

Doesn't Sie mean you?

[charred harbor]

Yeah it does

The "deinen" is a conjugation of "du", which is informal

It needs to match

[plush pelican]

du = you, informal
dein = your, informal

Sie = you, formal
Ihr = your, formal

note that "Ihr" has to be capitalized, even though it's not a noun, but a possessive thingy like "mein"

[tiny scaffold]

Small note here:

Verbs are conjugated (conjugation)
Nouns/adjectives are declined (declension)

[charred harbor]

You’re right, should’ve said declension to be technical

I’ve never really understood why there’s two terms to be honest, it’s literally just the same thing for different word types xD

[tiny scaffold]

You can just say ''inflected'' then

And to be even more technical, ''declension'' can also refer to a set of endings of a given noun class, like in Latin

For example:

Fēmina, fēminae is a first declension noun in Latin, whereas puer, puerī is a second declension noun

It makes a difference in Latin or when talking about languages with declensions, but I agree that they can be annoying in general

[charred harbor]

I’m familiar with the Latin terms, I’ve studied it before

[hushed dawn]

Liebe Leute

ich schreibe eine Anfrage zur Hospitation
Das E-mail wird zu einem Chefarzt eingeleitet.
Was ist die höfflichste Anrede, die ich schreiben soll?

Sehr geehrter Herr Doktor (Nachname) z.B ?

[brave harbor]

Sehr geehrter Herr Dr. Nachname würde ich schreiben

[manic raft]

What's the difference between jetzt and heute

[short isle]

jetzt = now
heute = today

[manic raft]

Wow Google translate is confusing

[short isle]

ja... verlasse dich nicht darauf.

[manic raft]

Is there something better then it asking for a friend?

[short isle]

Für Übersetzungen ist Deepl eine gute Option.

Aber der Duden ist auch eine großartige Quelle.

[manic raft]

Il check it out danke

[hushed dawn]

Danke

[signal cipher]

Can you write me verbs related with finishing:
Aufhören
Erledigen

[short isle]

https://www.duden.de/synonyme/aufhoeren

[signal cipher]

Danke schönen

[fervent kernel]

"Danke schön" or "Danke, schönen Tag noch!"

[signal cipher]

Wrote jokingly. Because asked about verbs.

Thanks a loting

[fervent kernel]

[signal cipher]

Does Konjunktiv 2 with modal verb has different word order then standard sentence with modal verb?

[marsh ruin]

Hello

I have B2 exams coming soon and I was wondering if Redewendungen was considered too casual for a formal letter? Also it's fine for a blog right?

[short isle]

Hmm… ein Beispiel:
Wenn ich mehr Zeit hätte, könnte ich dir beim Umzug helfen.

These follow the normal word order rules.

[signal cipher]

I have seen an example which used modal verb as conjugated verb instead of auxiliary verb.

[short isle]

Hast du das Beispiel?

[signal cipher]

Es muss so gegen halb sechs gewesen sein.

[short isle]

Aber mit Konjunktiv 2 wird das:
Es müsste so gegen halb sechs gewesen sein

[signal cipher]

Why modal verb is in second place?

Why not sein?

[short isle]

Why is “müssen” in the second position?

[signal cipher]

I am asking that

[short isle]

The pattern for Konjunktiv 2 is: Modal Verb (in konj.2 conjugation) + Infinitive

Sein isn’t a modal verb. If you used “sein” in the second position, the sentence would be more concrete.

[signal cipher]

Sein is auxiliary as I know. And as I know when there is auxiliary verb and modal verb auxiliary takes the second position.

But this example is different

[agile thicket]

Hallo Leute! Ich habe Probleme mit Präpositionen und möchte gerne eine Lektion dazu, wenn ihr mir mit einem Link helfen könnt

Ich dachte, ich hätte hier einige Ressourcen gefunden, aber ich finde sie nicht mehr

[fervent kernel]

maybe this? https://www.deutsch-perfekt.com/deutsch-ueben/die-praepositionen-testen-sie-sich

https://mein-deutschbuch.de/grammatikuebungen-praepositionen.html

[agile thicket]

Ja, vielen Dank !

[cursive spoke]

No, the ordering is the same

[cursive spoke]

You find that usage under "epistemischer Gebrauch der Modalverben"
And even then, the word order is the same relative to other epistemic-use-sentences

Es muss ... gewesen sein
Es müsste ... gewesen sein

[signal cipher]

Danke schön

[signal cipher]

@plush pelican

[copper orchid]

I'd really appreciate it if someone checked this piece of writing for any mistakes. Vielen Dank im Voraus!

Vor hundert Jahren in Ägypten, Fotografie war nur für die reiche leute. Weil die Kameras sehr groß und teuer waren. Fotografie war sehr wichtig für Ägypten weil es viel Geschichte hat. Berühmte Fotografen wie Zangaki Brothers haben schöne Bilder von Menschen und Gebäuden gemacht. Fotografie ist heute einfacher und zugänglicher. Jeder kann mit seinem Handy ein Bild machen. Trotzdem, sind die alten Fotos sehr wichtig und wertvoll.

And should it be "Die Fotografie war nur........" or can it be "Fotografie war nur"

[cursive spoke]

Vor hundert Jahren war Fotografie in Ägypten nur für die reichen Leute, weil die Kameras sehr groß und teuer waren.

Fotografie war sehr wichtig für Ägypten, weil es viel Geschichte hat.

Berühmte Fotografen wie die Zangaki Brothers haben schöne Bilder von Menschen und Gebäuden gemacht.

Fotografie ist heute einfacher und zugänglicher.

Jeder kann mit seinem Handy ein Bild machen.

Trotzdem sind die alten Fotos sehr wichtig und wertvoll.

Please compare my corrections with your sentences and ask about any specific changes I've made

[plush pelican]

I think..."epistemischer Gebrauch der Modalverben" = subjective meaning of the modal verbs, as I talked about.

Not familiar with the term, but I think he's saying the same thing I said

[cursive spoke]

Didnt read your message (dont even know where it is)

[plush pelican]

Probably because it was in another channel, 😅

[cursive spoke]

How about "idiomatic"

idk

[plush pelican]

Tbf, I don't know what "epistemic" means in English

[signal cipher]

I didn’t study yet. I thought maybe you don’t know, maybe you want to know.

[plush pelican]

With the modal verbs used like this, they indicate varying levels of certainty about the guess. That video I linked before goes into it

[cursive spoke]

interesting

[plush pelican]

"dürfte" in particular is confusing for me as an English native, because I think of "dürfte" as "may", but in fact it translates better to "likely", at least in the subjective meaning

[cursive spoke]

is that some poll?

[plush pelican]

It's from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3EaDpAMMWE

[teal torrent]

Hello there

I’m looking for german b1 vocabulary books

Does anyone know which one would be best?

Detschu to English

[silver fjord]

guys i made a meme for my homework can anyone check if i made any mistake grammtcly?

i cant sent hier its againt the server rules anyone willingly pls send me dm

[brave harbor]

yesss send me the memz

[vague hull]

hi I have a question. does the verb “meinen” translate to also “say”? for instance (quoting from my book) < „lass uns in ein Museum gehen“, meint Sebastian >

[fervent kernel]

In that case kinda yes but it also emphasises on Sebastian's opinion to go to the museum.

[vague hull]

OMG me as well

could anybody tell me as well for some good vocabulary books, please?

something like B1

[steel patrol]

How is a toiletry bag called a Kulturbeutel? Like why 💀

[pure crescent]

latin cultura -> "care" 😉

[steel patrol]

Ahh ok, that checks out 😂

I really need to learn Latin one of these days

[pure crescent]

it does have more cases than German and is therefore inherently cooler to whip out at a party 😛

[fervent kernel]

nova the supernova

[steel patrol]

Great, first I just need to find some language nerds to hang out with 😄

[fervent kernel]

Like Nova?

[steel patrol]

Reminds me how the other day I was talking to someone and suddenly felt this great need to express my frustration about the fact that colloquially in the UK we say “the loo” (as in toilet), but that since it comes from the French “l’eau”, we’re actually saying “the the loo”, which is mad. I pretty much just got a silent stare in response…

[whole portal]

you're saying the water :wires:

[verbal girder]

Grüße, ich kontaktiere Sie, um Sie zu fragen, ob Sie Bewerber aus dem Ausland aufnehmen, welche Art von Unterkunft Sie anbieten können und welchen Zugang ich zu Einrichtungen wie dem Badezimmer, Duschen und dem Kochen meines eigenen Essens hätte?
i just don't know how else to formulate this. would this work as a translation from this english version?
Greetings, I'm contacting you in order to ask about whether you accept applicants from abroad, what kind of accommodation can you offer and what would be my accesss to facilities such as the bathroom, showering and cooking my own food?
idk maybe Basiseinrichtungen?

[fervent kernel]

Räumlichkeiten

But then you'd have to say "welchen Zugang ich zu den Räumlichkeiten wie dem Badezimmer, der Dusche und der Küche hätte."

[verbal girder]

mein Held

[verbal girder]

but would it be understood that I'm referring to the possibility of cooking my own food and not just any kitchen in the building (let's say it's just one and it's for clients only) by using "Küche" only as opposed to what I've written? this message is sent to a hotel on the position of a Küchehilfe

[ancient cove]

is the DW placement test results reliable? my knowledge is all over the place and i havent studied german properly for a few months to about a 1-2 years now but for the last day or two i've been restarting my german learning habit back up. i haven't watched all of the nicos weg videos DW has posted but decided to take the placement test to see how i fare with it (if this info helps, i use anki, memrise, and duolingo, only been using anki and memrise for abt 2 days though)

[rich prism]

Its pretty reliable

[acoustic breach]

Problem with is is that it doesnt test your writing and speaking/conversation

And I remember completing their B1 course, but when I did a placement test for geothe, I was assigned to B1 (instead of B2)

[rich prism]

Goethe is completely off

I literally had just started (a2 or thereabout) and they recommended b1 for me

[plain umbra]

You were A2 and they recommended B1?

[rich prism]

Yes

[plain umbra]

That's correct then.

If you're A2, you're starting to study for B1.

[rich prism]

I mean I just started a2

[plain umbra]

Oh, so you were A1 and starting to study towards A2.

[rich prism]

Yes

[plain umbra]

Okay, I see.

[rich prism]

At least after I took the test I still did an a2 class

[fervent kernel]

Oh sorry i misunderstood.. yes you could say that what you wrote before (I changed it a bit though): "Grüße, ich kontaktiere Sie, um zu fragen, ob Sie Bewerber aus dem Ausland aufnehmen, welche Art von Unterkunft Sie anbieten können und welchen Zugang ich zu Einrichtungen wie dem Badezimmer, der Dusche und dem Kochen meines eigenen Essens hätte?"

[ancient cove]

is there any service online that's able to test the writing part? i'm practicing just getting words into my head through anki and extr@ and the sentence structuring i'm slowly working on (and listening through german radio, NDR)

[rich prism]

I believe so, bit I think you have to pay for them

[ancient cove]

interesting

the writing thing i try to do by just figuring oht where words go and how the sentences are structured, and then sometime input them into a grammar checker

probably a slower way to learn but thank you very much for your answers

[fervent kernel]

Hey kurze Frage, ich schau mir gerade eine deutsche Serie an und die Protagonistin hat eben gesagt
"Ich möchte Sie sprechen" also im Sinne von "Ich möchte mit Ihnen sprechen". Daher meine Frage, gibt's das? Also sprechen im Zusammenhang mit dem Akkusativ?

Danke im Voraus

[acoustic breach]

You could do Goethe's placement test, which is charged but they will "return" you that amount if you join their course after that

[fervent kernel]

ja kann man so sagen

[fervent kernel]

ja das hab ich auch gefunden, wollte nur eine Bestätigung von den Nativen

Ich möchte dich sprechen, Ich möchte ihn sprechen, ich möchte seinen Vater sprechen usw.

[ancient cove]

thank you

[livid cedar]

can i ask what is this website name?

[fervent kernel]

Reverso

[vernal ermine]

Na ja -> it got confused with it. I would like to know whether it is yes or no?

[fervent kernel]

Na ja means when someone is questioning or is not agreeing with your answer for example

Du: "Ich finde ja Katzen sind süß"
Ich: "Na ja, ich bin da anderer Meinung."

[vernal ermine]

So is it like no?

[fervent kernel]

Not necessarily

Its like "I understand what your point is but I don't really have the same opinion about it"

[south zenith]

Naja is like a “wellllll”

[vernal ermine]

I had an exercise in which "Na ja" Is used like yes or no. So I have confusion with its meaning.

[fervent kernel]

This

[fervent kernel]

Got the exercise for us?

[vernal ermine]

they are not using ja oder nein. Instead they use Na ja. So it becomes little tricky . What do I have to take.

[fervent kernel]

Oo

That's a weird exercise

[rich prism]

Naja is yes and no

It's used in enligh aswell

Like some parts are true some not

[fervent kernel]

Na ja*

[fervent kernel]

as well*

😄

[rich prism]

Do they separate it in german

I thought it was together

[fervent kernel]

i thought that too but then i googled and Naja is wrong 😦

only if its used at the beginning

[rich prism]

Oh ok

[fervent kernel]

but imo it doesnt matter, imo.

😄

[balmy axle]

didnt know that wth

[fervent kernel]

@wicked ether meinte bist auch aus ö-reich 😮

er will uns verkuppeln

[fervent kernel]

ja Naja am anfang schreibt man schon zusammen, mach ich auch.. sonst verwend ichs eig nie xD

[wicked ether]

🥹

[balmy axle]

n e i n

[fervent kernel]

doch

[balmy axle]

@wicked ether wtf

[fervent kernel]

@wicked ether wtf

[small elm]

hallo does anyone know whats diff between verwirf and verwirrt?

[balmy axle]

"Verwirf" doesn't exist

[small elm]

hah then spotify is broken :<

[small elm]

dziekuje!!

[balmy axle]

Show the lyrics

[balmy axle]

how to say youre welcome 😭

[wicked ether]

DM

[small elm]

see the first word

not only on spoti aaa

[balmy axle]

ohhhhh

It's the imperative form of "verwerfen"

[fervent kernel]

Yes

[balmy axle]

so basically

uh

Throw away any moral

[small elm]

aah damn good to know

[balmy axle]

Tak widzę

[small elm]

jeszcze raz dzieki sliczne wyderko

[balmy axle]

use simpler polish please 😭

[small elm]

ooh hah i though u know it cuz of your nickname haha

przepraszam

[balmy axle]

im only learning polish

not even that

it's like

[wicked ether]

Czesc

[balmy axle]

i learn it passively

[small elm]

i see i see

[small elm]

witaj :)

[balmy axle]

by translating words i use, doing my duolingo everyday and some youtube stuff

guys we are in the wrong channel

[wicked ether]

Ich kenne nur ein paar Wörter , da ich aus der Slowakei komme

🙈

[balmy axle]

#other-languages

[small elm]

haha alles klar

[wicked ether]

[small elm]

pepe im using arch

but 11 is my non buisness space

then what u use

[fervent kernel]

Windows Oripheus Lattimus

[frozen glen]

Hallo

Ich habe eine frage Leute?

[fervent kernel]

Ja frag

Los

[light phoenix]

Wir hören :)

[elfin crag]

hai guys how can i make my writing good?

[left narwhal]

idk

will jmd mit uns lernen?

[wheat grove]

Hallo

[left narwhal]

hallo

Wollen wir lernen?

[normal delta]

Ich wäre auch dabei

[left narwhal]

Cool:)

[normal delta]

Hallo ich will lernen

[left narwhal]

same

[normal delta]

Bitte

[left narwhal]

Ich schreibe in einer woche Abi

PLS

[icy flax]

Ich scheitere die Implikation dieser Aussage zu verstehen. T,T
Warum sagten Leute bei einer Kneipe in einer Serie "Wow! Selbstbewusst" als sie eine super aufgeregte, betrunkene Frau sahen, die "I kissed the girl and I like it" von Katy Perry vor vielen anderen unbekannten Leuten sang?
.
Ich kapiere das Vibe des Kommentars nicht. Ist es sowas wie "She defo knows what shes talking about, selbstbewusst/confident/self-assured LOL" ||wenn genau das damit gemeint ist, dann verstehe ich wiederum nicht, warum es eine Überraschung wäre. Hätte ich folglich interpretieren sollen, dass die Leute, die es sagten, LGBT-feindlich sind?!||

[plush pelican]

This got lost in the other channel, so I'll ask here:

How would you translate "character arc" to German, like the protagonist's character arc in a book?

[fervent kernel]

idk :l

you mean like.. Charakterentwicklung?

you mean when a character develops into a better person for example?

[tiny scaffold]

A character arc is the development of a character's personal growth, like how a character might start out as naive or silly but eventually becomes serious and determined

[fervent kernel]

then yes id say something like "Charakterentwicklung"

[real sail]

I have some trouble understanding which is correct.

Ich bin krank. Ich **muss **im Bett bleiben
Ich bin krank. Ich soll im Bett bleiben

For me both sounds correct based on the context, like when talking to your partner you might say "I have to stay in bed". And when talking to your boss, like a request, you might say "I shall take rest." Which one is correct? 🤔

[pure crescent]

I have to/must stay in bed. It is required I stay in bed.
v
I should stay in bed. It would be better if I stayed in bed.

müssen is stronger than sollen in that sense

[fervent kernel]

Ich soll im Bett bleiben is used when the doctor prescribes "Bettruhe" to you for example. You don't have to actually stay in bed, but it's recommended that you do.

[real sail]

I see thanks! @pure crescent @fervent kernel

[plush pelican]

How do you feel about the other suggestion, Charakterentwicklung?

[heavy grove]

Why is "hören" used here? Could it be replaced with "gehört"?

[whole portal]

yes it could be replaced

[heavy grove]

Ty

[whole portal]

If I remember correctly the phenomenon is called Ersatzinfinitiv and the rules which verbs it's applicable to and when aren't that clear cut and differ regionally

[plush pelican]

This

[heavy grove]

Understood. I'll keep using "gehört" to not make myself feel confused

[plush pelican]

In English, it's called the "double infinitive".

Here is a website on it: https://www.colanguage.com/double-infinitive-german

[plush pelican]

I'm not sure that would be grammatically correct...

[whole portal]

I would probably use gehört here tbh

[plush pelican]

Really?

[whole portal]

Yes I'm pretty sure

[plush pelican]

Remind me, which part of Germany are you from? Do y'all not use Ersatzinfinitiv very much there?

[whole portal]

I have no idea

I'm from Dresden but my parents are from different parts of Brandenburg

"Ick hab jeman'n schrein jehört." :p

[heavy grove]

Doing some practice with these verbs right now.

Thank you so much

[whole portal]

read the context

[heavy grove]

There isn't much context in the sentence itself, it's too short

[whole portal]

I didn't mean you

[heavy grove]

Oh, sorry

[tiny scaffold]

Could you instead use a nominalized verb as a gerund?

Like how one would say "beim Schreien" but not exactly. It just occurred to me that this might fit somehow

[plush pelican]

Do you mean, instead of saying "Ich habe ihn schreien hören", saying "Ich habe sein Schreien gehört"?

[tiny scaffold]

Sort of but not exactly, because in that case it would be "his screaming" and there's a possessive. Can it just be "ich habe Schreien gehört"?

[whole portal]

🤔 that does not look right to me

you'll have to use Geschrei (or Schreie)

[tiny scaffold]

Not even das Schreien?

[whole portal]

not in this context

[tiny scaffold]

So "ich habe das Schreien gehört" is wrong? Hmm

[whole portal]

hm

Well I guess it could work but it's still pretty unusual

[tiny scaffold]

My problem with the double infinitives is that there's guesswork in determining which verb comes first

Same with the double infinitives involving "hätten"

[whole portal]

Wir hätten ihn schreien hören können?

[tiny scaffold]

Lol

My brain just takes a walk at that point, but yes

[delicate tiger]

"Wir hätten ihn schreien hören können sollen?" 😉

[tiny scaffold]

NEIN

[whole portal]

Idk makes perfect sense to me

[tiny scaffold]

HÖRT IHR AUF 😂

[tiny scaffold]

You don't count tho cuz you're a native speaker :p

[whole portal]

Tja

[tiny scaffold]

It's us poor souls having to learn this stuff lol

[pure crescent]

Ihr hättet ihn Schachspielen lernen lassen sollen... 😛

[signal cipher]

Haben spielen lernen lassen sollen 😮

Too many verbs 😄

Can we combo modal verbs like that

[tiny scaffold]

"They should've let him learn to play chess"

Something like that

[signal cipher]

Lassen sollen

[pure crescent]

yes and more
Wir hätten das nicht mögen können sollen... (we shouldn't have had to be able to like that)

[signal cipher]

Ich muss schön danken wollen

[plush pelican]

There's no guesswork

Wir hätten ihn [schreien hören].
Ich weiß, dass wir ihn hätten [schreien hören].

It's the same order in the Nebensatz as in the Hauptsatz, just the conjugated verb gets moved from position 2 to just to the left of the rechte Satzklammer

aka just to the left of the block of double infinitives

Now, in Austrian German, they do this differently, but that's not Standard German, and unless you plan on living in Austria, it doesn't matter.

[tiny scaffold]

That's confusing. I would've moved the verb to the end since that's how the structure usually works

[plush pelican]

This is the special rule for the Ersatzinfinitiv stuff

the conjugated verb still gets moved compared to a Hauptsatz, it just goes to a slightly different spot

Note how "schreien hören" are together in both Hauptsatz and Nebensatz

the only thing that's moving is that conjugated verb

[signal cipher]

I think when there is infinitive before haben/sein we move it before all of the verbs at the end to avoid that?

[plush pelican]

Not sure what you mean

[signal cipher]

Ich weiß, dass wir ihn “hätten” schreien hören.

[plush pelican]

You're imagining that "hätten" starts out at the end of the sentence, then you notice there is an infinitive in front of it, and then you move "hätten" to be in front of that infinitive?

Ich weiß, dass wir ihn schreien hören hätten.
Ich weiß, dass wir ihn hätten schreien hören hätten.

[signal cipher]

Something like that

I just guess

[plush pelican]

I mean, if there is a double infinitive, that is the Ersatzinfinitiv

you use infinitive instead of Partizip 2

[signal cipher]

„Die Aufgabe wird vom Schüler haben gemacht werden müssen“

It’s same in here

[plush pelican]

5 verbs in one clause

[signal cipher]

Haben before the verbs at the end of the sentences

[plush pelican]

Even natives get that shit wrong

[signal cipher]

Der Schüler wird die Aufgabe haben gemacht müssen

[plush pelican]

What is this?

Futur 2 mit Modalverben?

[signal cipher]

Futur 2, passive, modal verb

[plush pelican]

This is that shit that I linked before, isn't it?

That even the linguistics professor had to derive

[signal cipher]

This is simpler

Haben in this too before other verbs

[plush pelican]

https://blog.leo.org/2019/12/06/passiv-futur-ii-mit-modalverb/

It is

das Passiv Futur II mit Modalverb wird im Alltag nicht „eher selten“, sondern kaum je verwendet. Entsprechend ist es meiner Meinung wenig sinnvoll, diese Form in einem Test zu verwenden. Die meisten Deutschsprechenden können sie, wenn überhaupt, nur nach langem Zögern und viel Zweifeln bilden. Um sicherzugehen, muss auch ich diese Form herleiten, denn spontan verhasple ich mich in all den Verbformen. Da Sie die Frage aber gestellt haben, versuche ich sie zu beantworten

This is where you start getting into things that are used so rarely even native speakers wouldn't be sure if you formed it correctly

[signal cipher]

In your example and in that example we both write haben before other verbs

I saw a correlation

[plush pelican]

yes, it's the same idea

but God, that whole combination of tense and voice gives me a headache already

[signal cipher]

So is my logic logical

[plush pelican]

I didn't deny it was logical, just that it's headache-inducing, 😅

[signal cipher]

Do you know any example which there is haben/sein after infinitive

[plush pelican]

Depends on what one counts as "after infinitive", I think 🤔

[signal cipher]

Sehen

Geben

Rennen

[plush pelican]

No I mean

you can have Infinitivsätze not separated from a Hauptsatz

so for example, you could end up with an infinitive before haben/sein

but those would technically be separate clauses

[signal cipher]

Doesn’t that forms called Infinitiv?

[plush pelican]

Dich zu sehen ist mir eine Freude.

[minor jay]

I wouldn't dive too deep into that.

[plush pelican]

yes

[signal cipher]

But I like it 😦

[plush pelican]

Here, "dich zu sehen" is technically a different clause, but according to German punctuation, we don't have to insert a comma between it and the main clause

so you might argue that here there is an infinitive before "ist"

[signal cipher]

I think this has different logic.

[plush pelican]

You can also have verb+verb combinations:

Ich weiß, dass ich gestern spazieren gegangen bin.

[signal cipher]

I mean the verbs at the end of the sentence

[plush pelican]

I think that's a proper example of what you're looking for

Ich gehe spazieren = I go for a walk.
Ich bin spazieren gegangen = I went for a walk.

[signal cipher]

There is the gegangen between

[plush pelican]

oh, you didn't specify that there couldn't be anything in-between

In that case...hmmm, probably not?

[signal cipher]

Not what?

[plush pelican]

There is probably not a situation where there is an infinitive immediately before "sein" or "haben"

unless the two are technically belonging to different clauses

[signal cipher]

It may be the reason for us to move haben/sein before the verb sequence. I wish I new the name of that moving to be able to search online more.

[plush pelican]

All I know is the "Ersatzinfinitiv" term

[signal cipher]

Who is ersatz

[plush pelican]

Ersatzinfinitiv means literally "replacement infinitive"

because the Partizip 2 form of the verb is replaced with the infinitive

[signal cipher]

I will search about it.

It’s hard to find c1 topics in English in detail but I will try.

[plush pelican]

if you're searching in English, try the English term "double infinitive"

[signal cipher]

Danke schön Master

[plush pelican]

master? 🙃

https://tenor.com/view/yes-my-master-yes-lga-darth-vader-vader-gif-12858692

[signal cipher]

Sir yes sir

[signal cipher]

Benötigen
Brauchen

Was ist der untershied

[minor jay]

Im Grunde haven sie dieselbe Bedeutung.

Aber "benötigen" benutzt du eher nicht bei Personen

Z.B. "Ich brauche dich"
"Ich brauche Zuneigung."
Usw

[signal cipher]

Was ist eher?

Was bedeutet es

[minor jay]

Rather

[signal cipher]

Danke schön

Was ist mit bedingen

[stable thicket]

Hello people, I have a German Mock GCSE paper tomorrow and one of the tasks i will be provided to complete is a picture description task, any useful phrases or tips i should know?

[rich prism]

Hintergrund and Vorgrund

[stable thicket]

Foreground and background?

[rich prism]

Im Hintergrund, im Vorgrund

Yes

Use alot of prepositions and adjectives to make it long

For example If the picture has people describe what they are wearing, their expressions, etc

[stable thicket]

its 20-30 words so i think that length wont be much of a porblem

[stable thicket]

alrr

[rich prism]

How are you still writing mocks though

[stable thicket]

wdym

im only in yr 10 ;(

this is my firsst set of mocks

[rich prism]

Oh okk

[stable thicket]

yeah thx for advice btw

[rich prism]

No problem

[stable thicket]

gonna revsie vocab for around half an hour then phrases etc

[rich prism]

You could also practise some

[stable thicket]

practise q's?

[rich prism]

Like pick a picture and see how well you can describe it

[stable thicket]

Ah alright ill try that thanks!

when ive done it could i send it in here so u can see where i could improve?

[rich prism]

Ok

[stable thicket]

would u mind if i sent it to u in dms? i dont have the perms to send pics

[rich prism]

Ok

[icy flax]

Supiii!! Dankeee

[vernal ermine]

@plush pelican @whole portal bros do you have any idea?

[whole portal]

Huh

Do you have any example ...?

Na ja really just means "... eh"

[plush pelican]

Do you mean like,

"Meine Mutter hat gesagt, wir sollten uns unsere Jacken anziehen, denn es wird heute Abend regnen."

"Naja, ich hasse Jacken. Ich habe also keine mitgebracht."

Something like that?

In that case, I guess it's sort of expressing disagreement with the other speaker?

[vernal ermine]

Yes similar to that

[vernal ermine]

1st person:Und aufgeregt?
2nd person: Na ja, ein bisschen, aber wird schon klappen.

[vernal ermine]

How bro disagreement?

[plush pelican]

It works similarly to "well" in English.

"We should put on our jackets, because it's going to rain."

"Well, I hate jackets, so I didn't bring one."

I've never really thought about it in these terms, though

But if we look at DWDS and their definitions of "na ja"

https://www.dwds.de/wb/na ja#1

2. umgangssprachlich drückt Reserviertheit, Verlegenheit oder Skepsis, Distanzierung, Ablehnung aus

Colloquial. Expresses reservedness, discomfort, skepticism, distance, rejection.

[plush pelican]

That could be definition #1

1. drückt ein Eingeständnis, bedingte, graduelle Zustimmung aus

Expresses a confession or limited, gradual agreement

[vernal ermine]

@plush pelican Do you have any other sentence bro?

[plush pelican]

So definition #1 is positive, but expresses a limit on how much you agree

"and excited/tense?"

"Well, a little, but it'll work out."

[plush pelican]

None of DWDS' sentences were very good

[vernal ermine]

1st person: Ja, und deshalb fahren wir jedes Jahr dorthin.

2nd person : Warum? Gefällt es dir dort nicht?

1st person: Na ja, eigentlich ist es ja ganz schön dort, aber jedes Jahr würde ich lieber einmal woanders hinfahren, etwas an- deres sehen.

[vernal ermine]

@plush pelican what you think about this sentence bro?

[plush pelican]

"aber jedes Jahr würde ich lieber"

It seems to make sense

There might be something you need to use with "einmal"

Like "nur einmal" or something, I'm not sure.

Is this example from your book?

[vernal ermine]

@plush pelican

Does Naja gives both agreement as well as disagreement? Bro @plush pelican

[plush pelican]

yeah, that's definition #1 vs. definition #2

#1 is limited agreement
#2 is skepticism/disagreement

[plush pelican]

"Naja, was man eben so macht"

I think that's #1, limited agreement.

"Did you all do a lot in Venice?"
"Well, what one always does: a roundtrip with a tourist boat through the city, a few museums and art galleries and of course any number of businesses."

So it's agreeing they did stuff, but it's limited agreement, because it's just the usual tourist-y kind of stuff, nothing special

[signal cipher]

Was is dreinsehen

[vernal ermine]

If I am telling it according to the sentence as : he does a lot of trip in venice. Will you tell it as richtig oder falsch.

[plush pelican]

"Na ja, immerhin haben sie jemanden, der Ihnen hilft."

Well, at least you have someone who helps you.

That might be #1 as well?

Well (that sucks, it's true, but) at least you have someone who helps you (so it's not all bad)

[plush pelican]

he does a lot of trip?

[vernal ermine]

If I make a statement according to your sentence.

[plush pelican]

"does a lot of trip" doesn't make sense in English

Do you mean, "Did he do a lot during his trip?"

The answer is... yes and no.

He did several things, but they were just normal tourist things, nothing special

Whether you count those things, is sort of subjective

He seems to be saying he doesn't really count them

[spiral dust]

Could also be "does he travel to Venice often" perhaps?

[plush pelican]

or he counts them, but with reservations

[vernal ermine]

If you have a condition to make either one of the choice. What you will choose?

[plush pelican]

If I had to make a choice, I would be annoyed at the test, 😄

It would be a very difficult question to answer

Because the way the guy is talking is sort of between yes and no

yes, he did a lot of things
but on the other hand, no, because those were just normal, tourist-y things, nothing special

If you say "yes", you're saying, "as long as he did anything, we count it"

but his view was that such tourist-y things kind of don't count

so when you say "yes", you are sort of ignoring what he's saying

the limits he's putting on his answer

[vernal ermine]

If this type of question comes in tests, what you will do?

[plush pelican]

pick one randomly, 😄

no, I guess I'd lean towards "yes"

because technically he did do things

but I'd be unhappy with that as being the right answer

[vernal ermine]

Na ja is very tricky @plush pelican

[signal cipher]

Should double Infinitiv be with modal verb? Or can it be constructed with two normal verbs

[plush pelican]

Are you asking if double infinitive applies to any non-modal verbs?

Yes

Ich habe jemanden schreien hören

[signal cipher]

Yes

[plush pelican]

the example from earlier today

modal verbs are the most prominent example of the double infinitive, but not the only verbs that use it

This website talks about which verbs it applies to: https://www.colanguage.com/double-infinitive-german

[signal cipher]

I can’t remember that much good 😄 the video I have watched only told modal verbs

[plush pelican]

There may also be regional differences with this, 😄. Like some verbs may not be used with the double infinitive in certain regions.

but the website at least talks about what is true of Standard German

Hammer's German Grammar also talks about the double infinitive

[signal cipher]

Is jemanden the subject of Schrein?

[plush pelican]

mia?

[signal cipher]

Typo+autocorrect

[plush pelican]

Is "jemanden" the subject of "schreien"?

[signal cipher]

Yes

[plush pelican]

I believe it's the object of "hören"

Ich hörte jemanden

🤔

[signal cipher]

I have heard
Someone screams

[plush pelican]

it's not a subject, jemanden implies accusative case

In English, we use Gerunds for this kind of thing

I heard someone screaming

[signal cipher]

But I don’t scream. Someone does

[plush pelican]

I heard someone.

I heard someone screaming.

You ask good questions, 😅

[signal cipher]

I think first I should learn English version

[plush pelican]

Because it is sort of simultaneously the object of the one verb and the subject of the other

He felt his heart beating

He felt his heart
his heart was beating

[signal cipher]

Like the sentences we can write that?

He felt that his heart is beating

[plush pelican]

You're mixing examples

He felt his heart beating, is how you translate it

like I said, we use Gerunds for the translation into English

[signal cipher]

He felt (that) his heart (is) screaming = he felt his heart screaming

Sorry

Beating

[plush pelican]

heh

Maybe?

But in German, you can see that the noun is clearly taking the case for the object of the first verb

Er hörte jemanden schreien

Er hörte jemanden

and thus it's being treated as an object, not as a subject

[signal cipher]

What is nominative form of jemanden

[plush pelican]

jemand

Nominative - jemand
Accusative - jemanden
Dative - jemandem
Genitive - jemandes

like a masculine noun

[signal cipher]

Er hat gehört, dass jemand schreit.
Er hat jemanden schreien hören.

[plush pelican]

That first sentence sounds like he heard someone else say that someone screams

Also, you didn't put the second clause in past tense

Er hat gehört, dass jemand geschrien hat.

[signal cipher]

Can’t we write it in present tense?

In Bulgarian we can

[plush pelican]

The screaming was in the past, was it not?

Idk, English may be complicating this for me

Because we use a continuous thingy

Someone was screaming

[signal cipher]

In Bulgarian the part which is after “that” can be written both in past tense/future tense or in present tense

[plush pelican]

It's possible I'm wrong on this, I'm not sure

[signal cipher]

Can we write double infinitive with only verbs like see, hear, watch etc.

I liked this topic

[plush pelican]

you mean, you like it

"I liked this topic" means you stopped liking it at some point

[signal cipher]

I always mix that up. In my native we use past tense for new things we try when we say like or don’t like.

[plush pelican]

interesting

[plush pelican]

Ich sah ihn schwimmen

[signal cipher]

When you say like instead of liked it means you generally like.

[plush pelican]

I'm going to copy out for you the section on double infinitives from Hammer's

[signal cipher]

Can I find it online? Not pirated way.

[plush pelican]

You could buy it, sure

Anyway, "schwimmen" is another verb you use double infinitive with

[signal cipher]

I like to study online. For checking couple of things it doesn’t worth to buy.

[plush pelican]

Kommst du heute schwimmen?
Are you coming swimming today?

[plush pelican]

it isn't worth it to buy

[signal cipher]

Danke schön

[plush pelican]

So here's an example with a double infinitive, using two verbs which both use double infinitive when they're the key verb

[vernal ermine]

I have a question whether Na ja or the sentence after Na ja determines agreement or disagreement? @plush pelican

[plush pelican]

Based on the definitions, "na ja" can express either limited agreement or disagreement, so it must be that the sentence afterwards is what shows which one it is.

[vernal ermine]

I have another question if they give only Na, what it means? @plush pelican

[charred harbor]

Assuming this is an English correction I don’t think that’s usually how we’d say it either…?

[plush pelican]

If I'm just checking a few things, it isn't worth it to buy (it)

I wasn't trying to correct everything in the sentence, just the "doesn't" rather than "isn't"

[charred harbor]

“…it’s not worth buying/not worth it” sounds way better imo

[plush pelican]

Sometimes, when you're correcting someone, there is the issue of how you do corrections without completely rewriting the sentence, 😅

[charred harbor]

Although this sentence sounds wrong to me without the final it

[plush pelican]

It can mean...so many things

[charred harbor]

Sorry, I’m nitpicky :p

[plush pelican]

https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/na

[1] ein sehr nuancierter, kontextabhängiger, floskelhafter Ausdruck der Zustimmung, der Überraschung, der Verwunderung, des Zweifels, der Skepsis, der Ablehnung, der Ungeduld, des Ärgers, der sanften Drohung, der Ermahnung, der Entrüstung, der Missbilligung; er dient weiterhin der Schaffung einer Denkpause oder Gesprächspause, um die Aufmerksamkeit, die Spannung zu erhöhen oder das Nachfolgende herauszustellen

A very nuanced, context-dependent, meaningless expression of agreement, of surprise, of wonder, of skepticism, of rejection, of impatience, of anger/irritation, of a soft threat, of warning, of outrage, of disapproval; it serves further for the creation of a pause for thinking or a pause in speech in order to raise attention or tension or emphasize the thing that comes next.

@vernal ermine

[vernal ermine]

What you think about this context? Bro @plush pelican

[plush pelican]

There, it seems to be doing definition 2a

[2] immer einleitend:
[2a] vor Fragen und/oder Antworten

2. always introducing:
   2a) before questions and/or answers

It seems to be like, "well (tell me more), what's healthier?"

So showing interest in the answer to the question mentioned before

[vernal ermine]

What about ja, klar? bro @plush pelican

[plush pelican]

you're asking about "ja" there?

it still means "yes"

"ja, klar" = "yes, of course" or "yes, obviously"

so it's emphasizing that the answer is yes

[vernal ermine]

Vielen Dank ❤ @plush pelican

[hushed dawn]

"1-Wenn ich Millionär wäre, hätte ich viel Geld ausgegeben."

bitte korrigieren Sie mich, wenn ich falsch wäre.

--> Dieser Satz ist falsch, weil der Konditionalsatz im präsen ist, während die Irrealität im perfekt geschrieben wird.
Sollte es stat "hätte" "würde" geschrieben, wäre der Satz richtig.

[terse jolt]

Was ist unterschied zwischen Vermutlich und Wahrscheinlich

[delicate tiger]

mMn geht beides, hängt vom Kontext ab. "Wenn ich Millionär wäre, hätte ich viel Geld ausgegeben [um etwas zu tun, das in der Vergangenheit liegt]"
"...würde ich [jetzt] viel Geld ausgeben"

[delicate tiger]

wie sicher du dir bist, "vermutlich" ist unsicherer als "wahrscheinlich"

[hushed dawn]

Ach so,
ich habe den Punkt verstanden.
Danke

[limpid trout]

if i have a subordinate clause with a verb like nennen,
where the subject (thing that is calling/naming, i.e. "der Mann") is a noun,
the direct object (thing being called/named by subject, i.e. "es") is a pronoun,
and the Other direct object (thing first direct object is being called/named, i.e. "eine Katze"),
what would the most natural word order be?
would it be like ", weil es der Mann eine Katze nennt"? or are both direct objects tied together, or something like that?

[south zenith]

Your sentence is correct

You could also say “ weil der Mann es eine Katze nennt“

[hushed dawn]

Gibt es Tricks, wie mann die Reflexiveverben wissen, ob sie "reflexive-Dativ" oder "reflexive-Akkusativ" nehmen ?

[dry apex]

when do i use seit? Does it go with akkusativ or dativ?

[delicate tiger]

"Seit zwei Tagen habe ich nicht mehr geschlafen"

[dry apex]

aah i understand

thank youu

[icy flax]

(...) und dann wurden die Probanten in zwei Gruppen unterteilt, und zwar eine Gruppe musste den Zettel in eine Klar-Sichte-Tolen (?) stecken und ungedreht rechts auf die Schreibtisch zu Seite legen und die zweite Gruppe sollte das Papier zerknüllen, aufstehen und dann in den Müll einmal werfen. So, dann ist die Frage: wie haben die Teilnehmer gefühlt dabei? (...)

Was ist dieses für ein Wort, das ich keinenfalls beim Hören verstehen kann?

https://open.spotify.com/episode/74oNxtdf844xJNILycA32l?si=5SNMK2pgQAOYU0PKWNCdLQ&t=6413 um 1:46:51

[plush pelican]

Vorweg wurde über das Gesetzgebungsverfahren im März 2023 gesprochen. Die Abschaffung der Grundmandateklausel war von der Ampel-Mehrheit ganz überraschend erst kurz vor der Beschlussfassung eingebracht worden. An einem Sonntag wurde der Plan über die Medien bekannt, am Mittwoch wurde der Änderungsantrag im Innenausschuss eingebracht und am Freitag beschloss der Bundestag das Gesetz.

Using "über" in a passive sentence to indicate the means by which something happened. I wasn't aware that was a thing. I only knew of von, durch, and mit.

[plush pelican]

Klarsichthülle, vielleicht?

https://www.dict.cc/?s=Klarsichthülle

plastic sleeve/sheet protector

[icy flax]

Kein vielleicht vor einem so DEFINITIV Genie! Danke dir, Argus!!

Lustigerweise kann ich es jetzt perfekt anhören wie er es ausspricht. Wie komisch ist unser Gehirn nur

[minor jay]

Nicht zu verwechseln mit einer Klarsichtfolie!

[pure crescent]

Bit unusual indeed.
not exclusive to passive sentences:
Ich gebe nun die Entscheidung über das Radio bekannt.

[shrewd fern]

i would use durch there

"An einem Sonntag wurde der Plan durch die Medien bekannt, [...]"

[plush pelican]

It was from a news article

[shrewd fern]

pfft what 😭

what news outlet?

[plush pelican]

Well, actually idk if it counts as a news outlet, it's some thing that's a mix of legal news and stuff written by actual legal people:

https://www.lto.de/recht/hintergruende/h/bverfg-2bvf123-verhandlung-karlsruhe-wahlrecht-ampelkoalition-reform-2023/

From their about page:

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