#archived-culture-study-visa | German Learning and Discussion | Page 32

velvet sapphire May 7, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Moim

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Spielt hier einer fortnite

exotic barn May 8, 2020, 3:15 AM

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I like to play a game here where I learn and try to understand what people are saying in German

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Mansur makes no sense

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That much I can say

exotic barn May 8, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Hey
Can someone tell me about Dortmund? How the place is as a whole and the pros and cons too? It'd be very helpful. :)

tight kelp May 8, 2020, 2:56 PM

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a bit too general

exotic barn May 8, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Well anything that you'd tell someone who might want to study there

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Any important info they should have relating to language, culture, people, general working of shops, transportation and so

tight kelp May 8, 2020, 3:08 PM

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it's not a good place for racists since there are a lot of immigrants from all over

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the ubahn is very good and students in the bundesland are lucky because they can get a very convenient ticket

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lots of cheap places to eat

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the only con i can think of rn is not relevant to students proper: while there are a few tech companies, there aren't many and finding job as a programmer not willing to relocate is not being a breeze for me

exotic barn May 8, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Ah I see
I found it a bit hilarious when you started out with the racist point😂
And I see, well my stream is more into electronics so I hope there's some opportunity there?

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I'm glad to hear that there's stuff students can enjoy and have some good amneties

tight kelp May 8, 2020, 4:17 PM

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i don't know about anything specific for students since i didn't study here

exotic barn May 8, 2020, 5:04 PM

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That's alright, this much information is quite good😁

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Thank you so much!

lunar garden May 10, 2020, 9:41 AM

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hello people

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any advice on where to ship english books from Germany? like is there an amazon-like website for that?

deep vessel May 10, 2020, 9:42 AM

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yeah. it's called amazon

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i think thalia has some english stock too though

lunar garden May 10, 2020, 9:46 AM

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ohhh

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okay I never knew amazon also sells book

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mb

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and I'll check out thalia, thank you!

deep vessel May 10, 2020, 9:48 AM

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amazon started as a book store

foggy prism May 10, 2020, 9:54 AM

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amazon even has free shipping on books

tight kelp May 10, 2020, 9:56 AM

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okay I never knew amazon also sells book
haha what

lunar garden May 10, 2020, 10:02 AM

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haha what
@tight kelp I know, my mistake, I never bought books in amazon :/

tight kelp May 10, 2020, 10:11 AM

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sorry, didn't want to come off as rude

lunar garden May 10, 2020, 10:13 AM

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its fine, sorry if I sounded like I was blaming you

tight kelp May 10, 2020, 10:16 AM

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nono

storm geode May 10, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Amazon sells most things and I heard their system for self supported sellers is extremely good

lunar garden May 11, 2020, 9:14 PM

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anybody has ever transfered uni from a German university to an Austrian university?

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if yes, how was it if I may ask?

grand swan May 12, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Do I have to pass by customs (Zollamt) if I order stuff worth less than 20 buck from Aliexpress?

I read that you don't pay any Zoll Gebühr but do you still have to go to the Zollamt to get your stuff?

tight kelp May 12, 2020, 8:18 AM

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i've never used aliexpress but stuff coming from china has been really inconsistent. Sometimes i had to go all the way to the zollamt and even pay more money than i should have, other times it just arrived home without a fuss

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I've been fine honestly

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But that's perhaps just luck

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@dire karma ever a bad experience?

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:21 PM

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I would like to ask about the studien kolleg

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like if i am eligible to go to one

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:22 PM

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That's depends on a lit

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:22 PM

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so let me fill you in

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Country of origin, highest education completed

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Age, etc etc

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:22 PM

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i am from jordan

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17 years old

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and i finished highschool

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or about to finish

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year 12

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from a american system/ program

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Usually the national system of jordan require a studien kollag

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Forgive me for being forward but would you go to German as a refugee or political asylum seeker

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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however i do not know about the american system

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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It also affects some

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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no i would go as a student

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like i want to study there

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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It's better to write to them explaining your situation and qualifications

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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to who excatly?

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Do you have a few you're looking at atm

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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do you have a link or email? i would be thankful

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Mostly likely the Auslands Department

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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UNIs? no not really

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Well idk which one you want to go to

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No, which studien Kolleg or uni

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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so it depends?

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Some unis are linked to their kolleg, some aren't

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Yes very heavily on geographical location in Germany too

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I.e. which Bundesland

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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i would like to apply to TU berlin and TU Hamburg

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I'd suggest you pick out a fairly populated city with cheap living costs and perhaps unis in the area with those interests

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Ok, keep in mind they're expensive cities

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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i would like to study mechanical

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i dont mind living costs

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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And it will be incredibly difficult to find cheap student accommodation

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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as long as the uni is free

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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Then you're fine

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I don't believe it is for non EU citizens

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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i mean how much am i look at pro monat

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pretty sure it is

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I don't believe it is for non EU citizens
@fleet pelican

verbal linden May 12, 2020, 5:27 PM

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I looked it up and it said its free for international students too

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I looked it up and it said its free for international students too
@verbal linden

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see

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thank you

verbal linden May 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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unless u wanna study in BW

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pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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I just want to know weather if i am eligible for a studient kollag

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ja ich wissee

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Sorry my city us Vienna

verbal linden May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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lower than in vienna

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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do you get student finance tho

verbal linden May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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get rekt

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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It's not

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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wow

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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At least not for rent

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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yeah without parents and money

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good luck

verbal linden May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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but the cost of living index 😔

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Get fucked

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@verbal linden we have more taxes but cheaper apartments

verbal linden May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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1 pair of jeans 82€

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peepostroke

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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free for who can afford it

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Levi's tho

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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hmmm guys i still have the same question

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@pallid oar again check for the free uni thing

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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okay

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sure

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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It's not even free for all EU citizens

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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make sure you factor in living costs

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Like Bonn not introduced fees

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And that too

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Look at websites like wg-gesucht

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To see what average prices for a wg would be

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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before that

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i would need to know

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if i am eligible for a SK

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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You're not going to get a student apartment in sorry, the waiting lists are too high in those cities

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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because someone told me i had to do 2 years of uni

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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No

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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in my country

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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That's not sk then

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:32 PM

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then i would be able to go to sk

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:32 PM

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nah bro. doesnt make sense

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:32 PM

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so i was like tf

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:32 PM

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locals get priority

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:32 PM

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it was a online webnar

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from DAAD

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i was like tf maybe misunderstanding

exotic barn May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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no such thing as free

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hidden costs somewhere

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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bruh i anit about the money rn

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Please please check

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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i am about if i am allows to go lol

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Eligibility ranges for each institution

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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allowed*

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:33 PM

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That's why I urge you to look at a sk you're interested in attending and write to them

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Or call them

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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alright so should i email those places?

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Yes, I'd highly recommend it

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Or call them
@fleet pelican depends on what uni i go to right?

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the sk

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Come back to us if you need help with what they're saying

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Bureaucracy is confusing in German

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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thanks alot you guys are helpful

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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It depends again on what sk

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:34 PM

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i would love if someone was in uni

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Some are connected through unis, some not

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 5:35 PM

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like if they could check the international office

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i know thats alot

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but i would be very thankful cuz its very confusing to get info here in jordan many study abroad office just lie to get the money

fleet pelican May 12, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Well what uni do you wanna go to

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What kolleg

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Berlin or hambrug

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or anything available really

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just need to study Mechanical or Mechatronic

olive summit May 12, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I live in a small city not far from Hamburg and my monthly recurring costs are about 350 euros (rent+insurance), not including food

pallid oar May 12, 2020, 11:07 PM

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oh thats great

olive summit May 13, 2020, 2:33 AM

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depends where you go but sharing a bathroom and kitchen with 2-3 others while having your own room is quite affordable in most places

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discounting large cities of course

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also for insurance I am with TK, which i believe is the most affordable option for international students

tame forum May 13, 2020, 9:51 AM

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All public insurances are same pricr

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Aok, tk all are same

exotic token May 13, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Why is it DACH?

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Wouldn't it be DÖCH?

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German name Austria, German name for Switzerland, English name for Germany

verbal linden May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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it uses the international vehicle registration code of each country

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so the letter on the numberplate

exotic token May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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oh

verbal linden May 13, 2020, 6:06 PM

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D for germany, A for austria and ch for switzerland

tight kelp May 13, 2020, 6:12 PM

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i don't think that's why it uses those letters. They come from Deutschland, Austria (latin name of the country) and Confoederatio Helvetica. Vehicle codes use those letters too but if the DACH acronym has them because of vehicle registration i'd be surprised

verbal linden May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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i just said what wikipedia said cause i have no idea ARREMBESTMODXD

tight kelp May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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fair 👀

verbal linden May 13, 2020, 6:13 PM

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but either way both use the same letters 😌

olive summit May 13, 2020, 8:57 PM

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the roof countries

sand lotus May 13, 2020, 9:14 PM

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Where is a good place to find cheap housing in Germany? Renting a part of a WG or anything really

olive summit May 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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wg gesucht

exotic gorge May 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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faq DACH

rose craneBOT May 13, 2020, 9:15 PM

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DACH

The letters D, A and CH are very common abbreviations for the countries Germany (Deutschland, its German name), Austria (Austria, its Latin name) and Switzerland (Confoederatio Helvetica, its Latin name). These abbreviations are found, for example, on licence plates. Germany and Austria also have two-letter abbreviations, which are DE and AT. These, alongside the Swiss one, are used among other things in URLs.

Incidentally, the word Dach is German for “roof”, so the name of the channel #archived-culture-study-visa is a pun: it literally means “living under the roof”, which can be seen as a metaphor for the cultural similarities between these countries.
Despite not included in the abbreviation, DACH may also include other German-speaking countries, especially Liechtenstein.

sand lotus May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@olive summit vielen dank

olive summit May 13, 2020, 9:17 PM

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gerne

tropic edge May 13, 2020, 11:45 PM

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@sand lotus Well, it depends where you're looking and what are you eligible for. If you are a student there are lots of options available, for instance student housing (read:Studentenwohnheim) there are also a lot of living "solutions" for solutions. I can help you look if you're in Berlin, since I am on the lookout as well. Most of these are on a contract basis and you're eligible for them under your course duration in Germany. They have websites, emails and telephone numbers you could contact, so google your city+ Studentenwohnheim or Student Apartments should give you an idea. If you are not interested in something like that than a WG would also be appropriate. As already mentioned WG gesucht is pretty good for that, but there are also facebook pages with the same goal in mind. This defers greatly from city to city but you could still google this and see what comes up. Usually some papers are best to have before hand, in digital form if possible. Identification papers, Schufa and maybe a bank statement. These differ from landlord to landlord but hopefully you'll only be asked about this after a first meeting (btw these papers are super important if you're looking to rent your own apartment as Hauptmieter ( you could then start your own WG if you like lol))

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Major tip! watch out for scams! they are everywhere and all over the place. Better safe than sorry, as they say. Don't wire money abroad, try going with a friend to the Besichtigung and watch out for yourself generally! Stay safe!

sand lotus May 14, 2020, 1:02 AM

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@tropic edge Super, thanks for all the info! Right now im job searching and just trying to get an idea of prices in the areas that I hear back from. Unfortunately I graduate in like a week so I will no longer be enrolled in Uni to count as a Student. I will definitely take a look at FB now along with seeing what papers I need. Thanks!

tropic edge May 14, 2020, 1:12 AM

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No problem! If you have any further questions, feel free to hit me with a PM or just ask them here 🙂

mild quiver May 14, 2020, 9:45 PM

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if i cancel an internet contract and they charge me for three months after the notice period, does that mean internet will also still be provided to that address for 3 months, or will they simply turn it off since as far as i'm concerned i've left the address and charge me for it anyway

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for reference the provider is unitymedia if that helps

bright saffron May 15, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Yes it has to be available. Otherwise you would pay without having a return of them.

exotic barn May 15, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Hi! I am a german student from Russia, and now I need to come back to Germany (I got Aufenthaltstitel and stuff). Flight to Zürich is much cheaper, so I plan to go there and then take a bus to my place in Nürnberg. How does it look like with border controls and so on? Will they let me out of airport? 😅

exotic barn May 15, 2020, 11:47 AM

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https://www.sem.admin.ch/dam/data/sem/aktuell/aktuell/einreisestopp/weisung-covid-19-d.pdf
I've found this, item 1.5.4 sounds good, but I dont really understand the point with "ausländischen Enklave"

hidden briar May 15, 2020, 12:06 PM

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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Büsingen_am_Hochrhein
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campione_d’Italia

exotic barn May 15, 2020, 12:18 PM

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So it won't function in my case

quaint stump May 16, 2020, 5:14 AM

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If you were to study in Germany does the Uni give you free housing or do you have to look for a flat yourself?

olive summit May 16, 2020, 5:28 AM

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dorms are very uncommon and are never free

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so yes you would have to search for a flat yourself

quaint stump May 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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ah i see

deep vessel May 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I wouldn't say dorms or other formal student housing are uncommon. They're definitely not free though, but can be cheaper than renting a flat yourself.

Student accommodation is typically organised by the studierendenwerk which is kind of like a student union I think. There are also residences that are self-administered so there isn't an external management body per se - the running and organisation is done by people who live there. in some places there are also (typically more expensive) privately run student housing chains

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:14 PM

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@shell dragon here 🙂

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Hi, so...what are you studying?

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Hey, well I got done with my bachelor's a year ago and now I've applied for master's in Germany so yeah. In electronics field.

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Ah, ok

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And why do you want to di that in Germany?

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Well, there are a lot of reasons.

It has some of the better universities for the program. They have a good syllabus when I was doing my research and it is really well structured. Not only that but students from one university after graduating go on to teach as well so I figured that if that was happening, if students were becoming teachers then the education must be good.
Its cheaper in one sense since public univs don't charge for the master's itself.
My grand dad had been there a few times in the 80's and he really praised Germany and it seeped into me to want to visit the place and do something there. :D
I love the German culture, their discipline and way of working and also etiquette. Everything is quite direct and straightforward I've seen so yeah. pretty much these

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@shell dragon

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Wow that are lot of reasons😆

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Hahaha indeed!😁

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But they're all really true, its a place I'd like to live in. Besides, beer fests! How could one not like that!! 😄

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Germany has so many events and i feel the people really value their culture so yeah, its just amazing to see that and makes me want to be a part of it

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:28 PM

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Nice to hear😁

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Hope I don't get ragged there😆 😅

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Cause I won't know what they'd want, what they're saying or what I'm supposed to do. Scary situation anywhere

tight kelp May 17, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Wow that are lot of reasons😆
those*, if it's ok to correct your english

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Of course , thanks

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Hey @tight kelp ! How are you? How is your dad doing? 😄

tight kelp May 17, 2020, 12:32 PM

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my dad? He's alright :D He was only ill for a bit a few months ago, he's thankfully been fine since then

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:33 PM

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The Coronavirus!!😱 😱 😱

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Sssshhhh @shell dragon that's not allowed here

tight kelp May 17, 2020, 12:34 PM

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no it wasn't that :D But it did put him at high risk

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:34 PM

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🤐

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:35 PM

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I'm glad to hear that! 😄 Great to know!

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I hope you all are doing well and fine there.

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I'd love to taste Glüwein! I had it once thanks to my friend, really like that

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The one mixed with Brandy was total lecker!

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:36 PM

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*Glühwein

amber perch May 17, 2020, 12:37 PM

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are there be permanent changes to some rules/policies in germany
due to the current situation

or are all measures temporary

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Ah yeah sorry! Forgot the spelling

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I have no idea unfortunately, maybe the natives or so can help you 😄

shell dragon May 17, 2020, 12:38 PM

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@amber perch they are called temporary but we'll see

exotic barn May 17, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I had a doubt so I'm shifting to questions room! Its about the Sprache!

amber perch May 17, 2020, 12:58 PM

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ok

celest sun May 17, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Gibt es jemand,der eine Goethe B2 Prüfung gemacht hat ?

shell bramble May 17, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Ich

modern island May 18, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Just planning ahead in case but how would studying abroad in Germany work? Do you need to sign up for a program or something? And like would dorms be provided, costs, study language, yadadada?

fleet pelican May 18, 2020, 8:04 AM

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@modern island depends highly on what uni you go to, most bachelors are taught in german with very rare exceptions for english i.e. in the most prolific and popular courses, dorms are only sometimes provided, costs will usually depend on where you come from and where you go, the cost of living will be your biggest expenditure and will depend heavily on city

modern island May 18, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Tuition is free though for most courses?

fleet pelican May 18, 2020, 8:09 AM

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again depends on what country you come from and the uni

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yes some have free or low tuition

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but universities like bönn and many others are starting to charge even EU residents

deep vessel May 18, 2020, 8:14 AM

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If you're doing it as a temporary exchange through your institution in your home country then you just pay your fees to your home university. On exchange language isn't so much an issue depending on the program as you can take german language courses for credit in many cases.

modern island May 18, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Well, there's lots of universities that offer free tuition to international students. I'd like to say that I'm an EU citizen also

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I'm pretty much interested in the engineering field like programming or something, so I'm not looking for anything really big

deep vessel May 18, 2020, 8:35 AM

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You'll definitely want to be working hard on your german. minimum CEFR requirements vary, but to be comfortable you're probably gonna wanna be at least c1

mortal token May 19, 2020, 2:26 AM

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mep

lethal ridge May 19, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Hallo Leute!!! How long have you been studying german?

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Me...at least 2 years

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I believe my german level is at most B1

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How about you?

hasty wave May 19, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Hallo Leute!!! How long have you been studying german?
@lethal ridge for 9 months and i am b2 according to my university.

latent rivet May 19, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Hallo, do any of you have experience with studying in Germany as a foreign student? (outside EU)

olive summit May 19, 2020, 9:15 PM

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yes

latent rivet May 19, 2020, 9:27 PM

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@olive summit do you mind if I ask you some questions?

olive summit May 19, 2020, 9:32 PM

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go ahead

tropic edge May 20, 2020, 1:40 AM

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First semester in Germany right now, my course is in German too. AMA

bright saffron May 20, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Guten Morgen

shell dragon May 20, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Morgen

lethal moat May 22, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Jemand hier wissen etwas über Goethe Test Pro? Ich habe die Demo Version auf Goethe Webseiten aber das war so schwierig! Ich möchte gerne wissen wie man kann diese Prüfung bereiten.

robust pilot May 22, 2020, 9:17 PM

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@tropic edge what is your major? what enrolling exam looked like? upd; t9(major)

tropic edge May 22, 2020, 9:18 PM

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If you are asking about my major, I am studying mechanical engineering (Maschinenbau). I didn't sit for an enrolment exam for my course, it is however NC

winged quiver May 22, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Bachelor Enzyme?

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@tropic edge

tropic edge May 22, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Yep

olive summit May 23, 2020, 7:40 AM

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@tropic edge can you explain how the NC process went in regards to applying

tropic edge May 23, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Sure @olive summit . In TU Berlin, Maschinenbau is an NC course. That means there are usually more applicants than there are seats.
1)Hauptverfahren depends on a few factors, since there is a Reihenfolge of who gets accepted first. For each Bewerbungsgruppe, there are different Vorabquote in the Auswahlverfahren. The one I was concerned with was the International Vorabquote, which is at 8% for students with non-German education background, and 50% of the 8% is for students like me who didn't go through the Studienkolleg. If you're accepted here the rest is irrelevant.

I want to say it's competitive, but it's really not. It's just that this Vorabquote is ridiculous. There are 4 seats that I was eligible for in the Hauptverfahren and I had a 1.5 Abi-Note. Needless to say I didn't get in. (TU Berlin has a page you could find if you Google Auswahlgrenzen TU Berlin Bachelor, it can give you an idea of how high is the Durchschnittsnote)

Koordinierten Nachrückens, which allows you to take any of the remaining seats if you're eligible. This is basically where you have your best chance as an international student. This is to apply for at Hochschulstart.de. You'll go through the application process and see how it goes. If you're in, Losverfahren is irrelevant.

3)Losverfahren, basically a lottery. If there are remaining seats in your major of choice, the university will make it clear on their website. You then need to fill a form and send it. If your name is picked you'll get an email, if not, then try again next semester.

In terms of application, the only thing you need to watch out for is what are documents required of you and the Fristen that are relevant for you, since the deadlines differ between zulassungsfrei Studiengänge and zulassungsbeschränkt Studiengänge. From my experience there were no special documents I needed. If it's a zulassungsfrei Studiengang, Auswahlverfahren doesn't applies, because you just are accepted if you fulfill the requirements.

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Sorry for wall of text lol

olive summit May 23, 2020, 10:52 AM

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no man that's perfect, so NC programs are essentially restricted admission and non NC aren't. In the latter case, as long as you meet all the requirements you're in?

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i've looked at a few programs and they do seem to have multiple opportunities of admission for the NC programs like you described

tropic edge May 23, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Yes exactly! Restricted admission is NC. If its non-NC if you meet the requirements you're directly accepted, so you just need to be thorough with your application.

olive summit May 23, 2020, 12:01 PM

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I see, thank you for all the information i really appreciate it

tropic edge May 23, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Don't worry about it! If any other questions pop up, PM me or send them here. I'll gladly do my best to help ya!

rapid latch May 23, 2020, 7:49 PM

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can I talk to someone about Germany through DM ( preferably non-german) ? I have some questions about life in Germany.
edit: I want to know about language skills requirement, social life, and other things required to have a decent life in Germany. I am thinking of doing my masters there and working there.

tropic edge May 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Feel free to DM me

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I might not know too much about the master degree in Germany but I can give you insight on how life is like in general. I'm located in Berlin ATM

fair talon May 25, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Question: a job I'm applying to in Germany is asking for "letztes Arbeitgeberzeugnis", but I'm not exactly sure what that is. My last employer was in the United States if that makes things simpler

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(also, if they ask for "letztes Schulzeugnis", would they prefer a certificate of enrollment (proof I'm currently enrolled) or a current transcript?)

olive summit May 25, 2020, 7:37 PM

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This for a job? I reviewed applications at my last employer and our candidates included both the transcript and enrollment certificate.

fair talon May 25, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Ye, for a working student job

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I figured I could send both just to be safe. Mostly was just confused about the work certificate thing

olive summit May 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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most of our apps sent both, but just the certificate should be sufficient

faint kelp May 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I'm not gonna lie I'm starting to lose hope on being able to go through direct admission into a german university so I want to know I guess the pathway from trying to get there from a B1 level of German, I've been learning by myself and I really only know probably B1.1 and it's pretty informal. Knowing about the price of my potential failure in becoming fluent would be nice as well.
I'm just bummed out that the college i'm going to for my associate's in america doesn't have in person german courses and I needed that to improve my german as self teaching myself online can only take me so far

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I sound very unmotivated and i'm sorry if I come off badly, I just still want to know if there's any chance

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I would recommend studying abroad if you’re not able to transfer. If you study abroad, they will almost always have language courses. You might have to spend some time in Germany smoothing out rough edges within your German before actually transferring to and studying at a German university anyway.

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@faint kelp

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I just got back from my study abroad like maybe 2 months ago, and that helped my speaking tremendously, and now I’m looking to actually try transferring to a university as well.

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:04 AM

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that makes sense, so like would you think the preparatory course would still be effective and give the same effects as studying abroad?

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:05 AM

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What preparatory course? Sorry, I didn’t read back very much.

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:07 AM

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so like if you don't qualify for direct admission into a german uni then you would have to take a prep course to like transition to them

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and from what I know you only need B1 for it

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Actually, regardless of what course you take, not a single one of them will make you as good at German as actually studying abroad will.

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:08 AM

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I mean how I'm learning right now isn't helping me either

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at least having a better background of german for when the time comes would help

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:08 AM

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You don’t have to have a certain level already in order to study abroad

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There were Americans in my program who didn’t know jack shit about German, and they walked away being able to speak half-decently after 3 and a half months

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:09 AM

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I mean not studying abroad I mean legitimately studying in germany for your entire bachelor's degree

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like a 3 year programme

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:10 AM

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I know but when you said what I did made sense it sounded like you were maybe considering it then

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How are you learning right now?

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:11 AM

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i watch a tagesschau do 15 minutes of memrise, another 15 for duolingo, and have some subreddits i've joined to skim through

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:12 AM

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If you want to take your courses in Germany in German, for most Unis you need a C1 level as far as I’m aware

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Like, the Uni needs a certificate stating you are C1

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Yeah, well

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Do you try joining VC?

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You can practice speaking there

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:13 AM

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that's what I mean I've heard of prep courses accepting B1 so you have a year to improve to C1

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I personally haven't, and to be honest I should, but due to quarantine I don't have a quiet place to chat

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so lately I've only done Listening and reading practice

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:15 AM

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All I know is that studying abroad you can take a course for literally any level, I have no idea about these prep courses personally

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I'm open to the idea definitely but how much would it cost?

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because I'm pretty much running off of FAFSA and maybe a part time job once this whole situation clears up

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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With a residence permit you can work a certain amount of days per week, it’s only part time, at least that’s how it was when I was there

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And with a study abroad program, they do help you with acquiring those, since that’s part of what you pay them for

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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oh ok

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:17 AM

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And it really depends on the program.

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I don't really have a program right now because the college i'm going to is a community one

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:18 AM

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The program I did was the cheapest one that I found where the credits that I earned there would be able to be transferred back to my home University, and the tuition was exactly $6,580 per semester

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:19 AM

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and your program?

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:19 AM

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Ofc there are probably some cheaper options, but not ones where your credits get transferred back

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What about my program?

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That was the tuition for the program. That’s not German tuition, German Unis don’t make you pay tuition, unless you get a masters or PhD

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:20 AM

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ok hold on I gotta gather my thoughts i'm getting quite confused

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:21 AM

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And technically, I wasn’t even a student at that school, the program is just partnered with the Uni, and the Uni let’s them use a limited amount of classrooms

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:21 AM

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so you're saying you talked with your home uni to just go to germany for a semester and they let you?

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because the closest unis i'm at make it so you can only do them if they qualify with your major I guess

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:22 AM

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Yeah because my university is literally partnered with that german university

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And also it was for 2 semesters btw

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Are you already a student at a University?

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:23 AM

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nah I start at a community college next semester so i'm not with an uni

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:23 AM

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They most likely have an international office where you can schedule an appointment to talk to an advisor about your potential options

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:24 AM

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because i'm going to get my associates before bachelors and what not

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it's just cheaper for me

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Yeah I also was looking for my cheapest option

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That’s why I chose that

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You should also really look into scholarships, because I was able to get a really hefty one for my study abroad. And not just scholarships for study abroad, but for actual transfer students

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Ik it’s a really stressful and complicated process though, I get where you’re coming from

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:26 AM

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yeah it is

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that's why I'm just trying to do the fastest and cheapest option for me to end up as a german uni student

exotic barn May 26, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Trust me, it all pays off once you actually get there

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 2:27 AM

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i know it will

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i'm just searching for a fall back in case if my german isn't great because the study abroad programs from us unis are probably more than actually studying there for the entirety

odd bison May 26, 2020, 11:11 AM

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that's why I'm just trying to do the fastest and cheapest option for me to end up as a german uni student
get a tutor, learn german at least 6 hours a day and you'll become a C1 in a year
there are many folks who did it this way

crude thicket May 26, 2020, 11:13 AM

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anyone know where i can buy inlane skate wheels / bearings in hamburg or online in germany?

i know a UK seller but i dont want to order cross border at the moment

olive summit May 26, 2020, 11:29 AM

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@faint kelp check the website https://www.daad.de/de/ theres quite a few bachelor programs offered fully in English.

www.daad.de

Deutscher Akademischer Austauschdienst - DAAD

Der DAAD ist die weltweit größte Förderorganisation für den internationalen Austausch von Studierenden und Wissenschaftlern. Erfahren Sie, wofür wir stehen.

winged quiver May 26, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@faint kelp Studienkolleg in Leipzig could be good for you. You will for sure be ready by the end of it and Leipzig is the cheapest place to study in Europe (rent is nice and low)

If I remember there are some weird working laws you should look into

faint kelp May 26, 2020, 3:47 PM

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I will look into that thank you and I'll also check out the working laws over there as well

fair talon May 27, 2020, 2:32 PM

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So I'm applying for a working student job, and it's asking for Schulabschluss, with the options being:

Hauptschule
Realschule
Fachhochschule
Abitur
Allg. Hochschulteife```

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As someone who graduated with their Bachelors in the US, what should I pick? Or just leave it empty?

sterile pond May 27, 2020, 8:17 PM

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is there nothing like an extra option?

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because nothing fits

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if there is nothing else I would go for abitur-which is like a grade

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high school graduation^^

foggy prism May 27, 2020, 8:27 PM

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that is like really inaccurate tho, seing as they already have a degree

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Fachhochschule may not be the most accurate either but it's closer

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tho I'm not sure what Hochschulreife means

tight kelp May 27, 2020, 8:31 PM

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Hochschulreife is what some countries describe as "maturity", basically something that allows you access to university-level studies

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i too would go with Fachhochschule

winged quiver May 27, 2020, 9:51 PM

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Bachelors degree from the US is above all of those

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Seems like the job is for undergrads but Realschule is most similar to the us system (what daad shows)

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Realschule Abschluss == hs diploma

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If the job is for grad students then leave it empty I guess. But Allg. Hochschulreife would be equivalent to your associates degree

winged quiver May 28, 2020, 12:15 AM

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@fair talon

fair talon May 28, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Yeah, ended up going with leaving it empty, since it wasnt a required entry. Just was confused at the time cause I didn't quite know if those were specific types of schools or "levels of education" (like graduate, postgraduate, etc)

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Thanks for the help 🙂

deep garnet May 28, 2020, 3:52 PM

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This is not related to anything in Germany lol. But does anyone have a cooling fan for their gaming laptop, and if so which one do you have? With the heat in my city I don’t wanna fry my hardware

tropic edge May 28, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Does anyone know how a Jugendtreff works? There is this little place near my house and I wanted to get an idea before I go ask in person. They have a ping pong table a kitchen and it seems like a nice place to chill. Is this sort of thing exclusively for kids?

hearty wadi May 28, 2020, 5:31 PM

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hi friends

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been a while since I posted here BUT I just got word that my program in Wien is happening as planned so I need a lil help

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does anyone know of places that I can look for housing in Wien starting mid September?

olive summit May 28, 2020, 5:48 PM

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wg gesucht

left grail May 28, 2020, 5:53 PM

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facebook groups are also helpful

hearty wadi May 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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cool! I’ll start there

open basalt May 28, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Is it possible to get a job in Vienna with A2-B1 level of german in clothing stores,supermarkets etc?

winged quiver May 28, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@open basalt of course it’s possible but your competition is gonna be C level and native German speakers most likely. You’re best chance is a position in the market where you don speak with customers

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@deep garnet why wouldn’t a normal fan work?

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@hearty wadi if you want cheaper living then look in the more outer districts but I’ve got a feeling that might not be your problem.

olive summit May 28, 2020, 8:20 PM

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the penny near my uni hires international students, im sure its similar elsewhere

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there's always on-campus jobs as well, my last job was at a research institute on campus

winged quiver May 28, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Hehe there’s of course jobs it’s just getting them

olive summit May 28, 2020, 8:22 PM

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true, the process + paperwork just to get that campus job took like 4 months

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really annoyng

hearty wadi May 28, 2020, 8:24 PM

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@winged quiver my job is in the 21st anyway lol I'm gonna be looking in the northeast mostly

winged quiver May 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Lol perfect! This website was recommended to me awhile ago but I’ve never done anything besides browse it

https://housinganywhere.com/s/Vienna--Austria/apartment-for-rent

HousingAnywhere

Apartments for rent in Vienna

Apartments for rent in Vienna from EUR 400/month. Short- and long-term apartment rentals. Safely search and book online before you move.

hearty wadi May 29, 2020, 6:05 AM

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honestly if I can find something in the 400-500€ a month range I’ll be happy lol

static lark May 29, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@hearty wadi try willhaben, wg gesucht and fb groups. You can get wg rooms for cheaper or maybe one room flats in your range if you’re lucky

hearty wadi May 29, 2020, 6:44 AM

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yep wg gesucht has already turned up some interesting results and I might look in fb groups too

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looking like 400 a month or so is the sweet spot out there in 19/20/21

static lark May 29, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Sweet spot?

hearty wadi May 29, 2020, 6:47 AM

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like - good price range for what I’m looking for

static lark May 29, 2020, 6:47 AM

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It really depends on how lucky you are and how big you wanna your room to be I guess. You won’t get anything cheaper than 400€/month for a 20qm room.

hearty wadi May 29, 2020, 6:48 AM

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yeah, I don’t honestly care too much how big it is as long as I can have some space to myself

static lark May 29, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Try to find a room before austrians from outside of vienna start moving there for uni

hearty wadi May 29, 2020, 6:52 AM

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yeah lol I just got a message from someone who might be able@to help too lol

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a grad from my uni who lives there now I think

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I’ve got some friends in the area who may have leads

olive summit May 29, 2020, 12:50 PM

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anybody familiar with uni assist? what does it mean when it says they are not responsible for handling my application?

deep vessel May 29, 2020, 12:52 PM

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My guess is you have to make your own application and deal with all parts of the application yourself

olive summit May 29, 2020, 12:54 PM

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but the universities say to apply via uni assist

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might just have to contact uni assist

tropic edge May 29, 2020, 1:48 PM

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yo i applied through uni assist @olive summit

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where are you applying and for what?

olive summit May 29, 2020, 1:48 PM

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one of them is Fachhochschule Aachen, Global Business and Economics program which is in english

tropic edge May 29, 2020, 1:50 PM

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would you like to do this in VC?

olive summit May 29, 2020, 1:53 PM

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vc?

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oh sure

tame forum May 29, 2020, 2:43 PM

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@olive summit it means the final decision to admit you into the uni/hochschule lies with the uni/hochschule. Not uni assist

olive summit May 29, 2020, 2:44 PM

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enzyme helped me fix it

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it was just an issue with the educational history i put in

tame forum May 29, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Okay

tropic edge May 29, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Does anyone have experience with tutoring? I kind of need serious help getting a kick start with uni. Specifically math, soo where do I go for looking for something like that, thanks!

tight kelp May 29, 2020, 4:06 PM

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you could try some websites like khanacademy, or if you want proper tutors you can see if your uni has a billboard of some sort, and check ad websites like ebay kleinanzeigen

tropic edge May 29, 2020, 4:24 PM

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Thanks! I was looking for something in German, I'll go ahead and ask at uni

shut prairie May 29, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Hey, ich hab mal eine Frage!
Wenn ich einen Hochschulabschluss schon habe und einen anderen Kurs in Deutschland machen will (also in einer Hochschule oder Uni) ohne Abitur, geht das? Mein Freund hat mir gesagt, dass das Abitur nicht nötig ist, wenn ich einen Abschluss schon habe. Jedoch weiß ich nicht, ob das ein deutschlandweites Ding ist oder ob es sich von Bundesland zu Bundesland ändert.

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Bitte erwähne mich, falls ihr mir antwortet 🙂

winged quiver May 30, 2020, 1:38 AM

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@shut prairie wenn du schon ein Associates Degree (ich rate dass du aus Amerika kommst) dann bist du qualifiziert

shut prairie May 30, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Komme ich nicht

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Ich bin aus Südamerika

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Und werde dieses Jahr meinen Universitätsabschluss machen

winged quiver May 30, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Welches Land?

shut prairie May 30, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Brasilien

winged quiver May 30, 2020, 1:43 AM

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https://anabin.kmk.org/no_cache/filter/schulabschluesse-mit-hochschulzugang.html#land_gewaehlt

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Schau mal nach welche Bedingungen du erfüllst

shut prairie May 30, 2020, 1:43 AM

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Das ist so hilfreich, merci!

winged quiver May 30, 2020, 1:44 AM

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Schon gut

solemn bay May 30, 2020, 5:59 AM

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@exotic barn This channel is the best place to ask.

signal rune Jun 4, 2020, 6:58 AM

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@icy mist Excuse me, I saw the message that you said you had the Testas Vorbereitungbücher as pdf . If possible, could i ask for it somehow? Thank you very much for your time!

exotic barn Jun 4, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Wenn es hier einen Amerikaner gibt, der erfolgreich zu einem grundständigen Studium in DE zugelassen worden ist, würde ich gerne mit dir reden. Das Beglaubigungsverfahren für AP Prüfungen und Transcripts fällt mir sehr kompliziert

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Und ob man SAT Scores einreichen muss weiß ich gar nicht

sweet lotus Jun 4, 2020, 11:13 PM

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ich würde gern auch wissen

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Weil ich in deutschland will, um Uni zu gehen

proper smelt Jun 5, 2020, 9:49 AM

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how is the education system of germany and what is the germans opinions about Turks and other foreigners(generally)

shell dragon Jun 5, 2020, 10:50 AM

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The structure of the education system changes a bit from state to state. Here where I live we go to the "Grundschule" (Like primary school) for 4 years and then we have to decide whether we want to go on a "Oberschule" (6 years, finished after 10th grade) or on the "Gymnasium" (8 years finished after 12th grade)
The two extra years in the Gymnasium are called "Oberstufe" or "Sekundarstufe II" and are used for making the "Abitur" which allows you to study at a university.

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Also the Gymnasium is a bit harder than the "Oberschule"

bronze basin Jun 5, 2020, 10:59 AM

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@the americans who want to study in germany,
isn't your country in violent political turmoil now?
perhaps you could apply for political assylum

warm flume Jun 5, 2020, 11:19 AM

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Hello, i need a Toefl IBT certificat for a kaiserslautern uni

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i just did some free tests, tho i got a nice grade, i'm a little bit nervous since i have the test next week

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i just came here to ask : how can i tell if i'm ready for the test ? how can i tell if i don't need anything ?

exotic barn Jun 6, 2020, 12:39 AM

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@bronze basin Lol I mean it's bad but like, nobody needs asylum at the moment

bronze basin Jun 6, 2020, 12:40 AM

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ehehaehheh ah well, probably not worth a try anyway with all the paperwork presumably involved

exotic barn Jun 6, 2020, 12:40 AM

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I am glad the world gets to see americas tru colors tho

bronze basin Jun 6, 2020, 12:42 AM

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i do know that you can send your foreign school certification to education ministry in whatever Bundesland you're in (education is not a national topic in germany but is regulated by each state)

and for a fee you can have it checked /translated/appointed a german equivalent

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as for anything else it really depends the university and even the individual study course

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they might require a language test and they might require an apptiture test or both or whatever, the best way to get educated about it is to know exactly what you want to study where and then inform yourself at the university about their requirements for it

exotic barn Jun 6, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Thanks I'll check out the education ministry thinn though

olive summit Jun 7, 2020, 6:32 PM

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what's the process to convert my US drivers license to German? I know I must take a test but should I just contact my local Fahrschule?

exotic gorge Jun 7, 2020, 6:54 PM

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I think it's easier to get an international drivers license. And you don't need a German or international license if you're driving for less than six months in Germany. Your US one will suffice for 6 months.

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At least this advice is what I've heard from other people. I don't have a direct source for this information, so it may have changed.

olive summit Jun 7, 2020, 8:21 PM

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I've been here for over 6 months though and I plan to stay longer

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does the 6 months start when you actually start driving

tight kelp Jun 7, 2020, 9:04 PM

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probably not

shut prairie Jun 7, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Yeah no. How would you prove what day you started driving?

olive summit Jun 7, 2020, 9:29 PM

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should probably contact the local Fahrschule then

tropic edge Jun 7, 2020, 10:05 PM

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any idea what these are called? and perhaps which shops I could buy them from. If there is like a huge long roll that i can just cut with scissors that would be nice

📎 images.jpg

oblique sleet Jun 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Die heißen verschlussklipse glaub ich und kannst in dm finden oder so

tropic edge Jun 7, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Danke vielmals!!

bronze basin Jun 8, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@olive summit these are the states from which you can get your US driving liscence converted from the local Amt für Fahrerlaubnisse or Führerscheinstelle or KFZ-Zulassungsstelle without any test for about 40€ fee:

ALABAMA, ARIZONA, ARKANSAS, COLORADO, DELAWARE, IDAHO, ILLINOIS, IOWA, KANSAS, KEN- TUCKY, LOUISIANA, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MICHIGAN, NEW MEXICO, OHIO, OKLAHOMA, PENNSYLVANIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, SOUTH DAKOTA, TEXAS, UTAH, VIRGINIA, WASHINGTON STATE, WEST VIRGINIA, WISCONSIN, WYOMING, [PUERTO RICO]

These are the states where you need to retake the written theoretical test (inquire at your Fahrschule about fees):

CONNECTICUT, FLORIDA, INDIANA, MINNESOTA, MISSISSIPPI, MISSOURI, NEBRASKA, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, TENNESSEE, WASHINGTON DC

These are the states from which drivers must retake BOTH the written theoretical test AND the practical driving test (contact your Fahrschule for prices)

ALASKA, CALIFORNIA, GEORGIA, HAWAII, MAINE, MONTANA, NEVADA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEW JERSEY, NEW YORK, NORTH DAKOTA, RHODE ISLAND, VERMONT, [AMERICAN SAMOA, GUAM, VIRGIN ISLANDS]

olive summit Jun 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Ah I see, thanks. I understand now.

bronze basin Jun 8, 2020, 12:16 AM

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ohgod wait the list is wrong now

olive summit Jun 8, 2020, 12:16 AM

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yeah what happens if my state was listed in the first 2

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convert without any test, convert with theoretical test

bronze basin Jun 8, 2020, 12:17 AM

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no it was wrong

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i copied it wrong

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its now correct

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youre in the first group, then youre good

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you have to apply for it at the Führerscheinstelle or wahtever the local amt is that is in charge of Farherlaubnisse within a certain time frame so check that out soon

olive summit Jun 8, 2020, 12:20 AM

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great, thanks again

winged quiver Jun 8, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I love being in the first group

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I now know why I had to do 200 hours of drivers ed

olive summit Jun 9, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Yeah same I had to take a full 2-week class and do multiple driving hours both with and without certified instructor

winged quiver Jun 9, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Two weeks!
Our is more like two months with 3 hour instructions 3 times a week with a required 10 hours driving with a kn instructor, one hour observing, and 30 hours outside of class

olive summit Jun 9, 2020, 11:49 AM

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For me we needed roughly 60 hours I think, 30 with an instructor, the rest with a parent and 10 of those at night

modern spruce Jun 9, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Hey Leute. 🙂 Ich habe eine vielleicht besondere Nachfrage. Ich muss gerade eine Textlingvistiske Aufgabe schreiben. Ich habe gedacht, dass ich durch zwei Zeitungstexte ein Ergebnis auf nationeler und lokaler Ebene untersuchten könnte, und wie sich die sprachlichen Mitteln der Texten unterscheideten.

Deswegen muss ich ein Ergebnis finden, das Zeitungsmässig national- und lokal behandelt worden ist. Gute Vorschläge wären herzlich willkommen.

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Das wäre z.B. ein Feuer, ein verschundenes Kind, ein Unfall.. so etwas. Etwas was lokal geschehen ist, aber auf nationaler Ebene aufgenommen worden ist. Die sprachlichen Mittel, mit denen man z.B. Identifizierbarkeit bespricht, sind nämlich für so eine Aufgabe interessant.

gilded patio Jun 11, 2020, 12:47 PM

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@modern spruce Zum Beispiel der Vermisst/Mord-Fall um die verschwundene Maddie McCann?

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@modern spruce Portugal und Deutschland sind darin verwickelt 🙂 Es interessiert mich aber auch, inwiefern sich die beiden Zeitungen/Texte unterscheiden 🙂

modern spruce Jun 11, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Das ist ein echt gutes Beispiel! 🙂 Es wäre in dem Fall auch interessent zu sehen, wie sich man auf journalistischer Ebene die ganze Sache im Laufe der Zeit besprochen hat.

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Gestern fand ich einen Artikel in Die Süddeutsche Zeitung, der eine Explosion in Hannover besprach - auf der anderen Seite gibt es einen Artikel aus Hannover Allgemeine, der das gleiche bespricht - und es unterscheidet sich glücklicherweise auch.

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Z.B. gibt es eine lustige Augenzeugekette.. Ein Pizzabäcker beschreibt wie sein Bruder mit dem Feuer irgendwie geholfen hat.. dazu mit dem Namen des Pizzaladens auch.. das findet man nicht in SZ.

gilded patio Jun 11, 2020, 1:07 PM

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😊 Wow ja, dass finde ich auch sehr interessant 🙂 Allgemein, was verschiedene Quellen preisgeben oder was sie vielleicht sogar verdrehen 😄

modern spruce Jun 11, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Es ist wirklich spannend. Der Textlinguistik beschäftigt sich mit dem Begriff "Identifizierbarkeit" - auch im Rahmen, was man als Leser nach der Meinung eines Autors wissen muss, um den Text dekodieren zu können.

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und das Grundwissen von Hannover ist natürlich starker in Menschen die in Hannover wohnen, als mit Menschen die nur SZ lesen.. und das ermöglicht auch der Autor, spezifischer Sachen zu erwähnen. Der Pizzabäcker wäre ja für die Leser von SZ total irrellevant, und sie hätten nichts daraus kriegen können.

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Ein Text mit zu viel unerkennbarem Wissen wäre nicht kohärent.

atomic nexus Jun 11, 2020, 1:40 PM

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@modern spruce Portugal und Deutschland sind darin verwickelt 🙂
dayum haben portugal und deutschland gemeinsam ein kleines kind umgebracht?

gilded patio Jun 11, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Haben sie nicht^^

modern spruce Jun 11, 2020, 1:46 PM

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fast niemand weiß ja eigentlich was passiert ist, aber so weit ich verstanden habe, haben deutsche Ermittler gerade etwas neues herausgefunden.

gilded patio Jun 11, 2020, 1:46 PM

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ja, die Deutschen sagen, dass sie ermordet wurde und kennen den mutmaßlichen Täter

modern spruce Jun 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Ich hätte nie gedacht, dass man ihn finden würde..

gilded patio Jun 11, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Der steckt anscheinend schon wegen einem anderen Verbrechen im Gefängnis^^

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Aber natürlich sind das nur Vermutungen

exotic barn Jun 12, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Hallo
I had a doubt, I want to mail TU Dortmund about the student accommodation and it directs me to their website, but I'm not sure if I should ask them for information in german or english. Can someone give me any suggestions on this please?

tight kelp Jun 12, 2020, 11:34 AM

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both probably work, there are a lot of international students

exotic barn Jun 12, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Ah thank you!

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also @tight kelp would it be alright if I could dm you for a small help?

tight kelp Jun 12, 2020, 12:36 PM

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with what?

exotic barn Jun 12, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Just knowing the place around, since they accepted my application, just pretty much anything you could give as someone staying in and around the area maybe?

tight kelp Jun 12, 2020, 12:39 PM

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you already asked me about that before

exotic barn Jun 12, 2020, 12:39 PM

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I haven't finalized yet of course but yeah maybe any information might be valuable..

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Oh I did?

tight kelp Jun 12, 2020, 12:39 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/400678824301297683/686578855347093601

exotic barn Jun 12, 2020, 12:39 PM

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Here in this room?

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Ahhh okay cool

tight kelp Jun 12, 2020, 12:40 PM

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good luck

exotic barn Jun 12, 2020, 12:40 PM

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My bad, thanks a lot 🙂

amber perch Jun 13, 2020, 9:11 AM

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is debit card and geldkarte good for paying for stuff in germany?

deep vessel Jun 13, 2020, 9:13 AM

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geldkarte defintiely. EC/Girocards too
visa, mastercard, and maestro are also pretty widely accepted (except for things like parking meters and a lot of ticket machines for public transport)

amber perch Jun 13, 2020, 9:23 AM

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which one is preferred?

deep vessel Jun 13, 2020, 9:43 AM

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A girocard is the standard one issued by german banks. if you also do online shopping you'd preferably want a girocard with either visa or mastercard

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so something with either the girocard or EC logo, and one of the visa or mastercard logos (i think visa might be v pay there)

📎 Debit-MasterCard-Deutsche-Bank-516-2.png

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^sample card taken from google

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or here's the girocard and vpay symbols

📎 19337385_101.png

amber perch Jun 13, 2020, 9:51 AM

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danke

tight kelp Jun 13, 2020, 12:01 PM

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that max mustermann dude sure has a lot of credit cards

tame forum Jun 13, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Oh damn i looked it up. And the female fictitious version is Erika Mustermann. He has a wife arrembestestmodxd

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https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustermann

Mustermann

Mustermann ist ein häufig verwendeter Familienname fiktiver Personen in Deutschland. Erika Mustermann und Max Mustermann stehen als Platzhalternamen für eine beliebige (reale) Frau und einen beliebigen (realen) Mann. Sie werden seit 1978 in Mustern, Vorlagen und Ausfüllhilfen,...

tight kelp Jun 13, 2020, 8:30 PM

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tfw a literal placeholder family has its own wikipedia page and you don't 😔

tropic edge Jun 13, 2020, 9:34 PM

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since we're moving in on summer, any Kaufempfehlung when it comes to fans?

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looking for something well under 50€

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currently looking at OK. OTF 231 W Tischventilator Weiß (30 Watt) and Arctic Air Tischventilator/Luftkühler

exotic barn Jun 14, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Hi guyZ

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Wie gehts euch

tame forum Jun 14, 2020, 9:51 AM

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@tropic edge Lidl has started selling huge ventilators for 40 euros

tropic edge Jun 14, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Nice, thanks @tame forum

tame forum Jun 14, 2020, 12:46 PM

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i mean idk if all lidls are gonna have it

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they have this thing where ever wednesday they get new stuff

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and saw it there

cloud anchor Jun 17, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Hey guys I have an important question

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I finished 4 years of highschool in Croatia in a school called "construction technical school, architectural technician" for a "architectural tehnician" profession same as my sister

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And my sister got her paper back saying it was accepted as a Bauzeichner, that's an Ausbildung

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We both did abitur and everything back in Croatia

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Is that bad/normal or good, since Croatia is in EU so the standards must be close to each other

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I mean in Croatia thats a profession which u study in highschool, here its Ausbildung so its confusing me a bit

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And while we are at it, does anyone have any experience in that profession? like what can I expect, if there are not many work places or idk

tight kelp Jun 17, 2020, 3:36 PM

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education systems aren't unified across the EU, only university credits follow the same system. Your education probably corresponds to a Realschule in Germany, but to make sure (and to make it valid anyway) you have to go through a process called Anerkennung

cloud anchor Jun 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Yes it's a Realschule in Croatia but accepted here as Ausbildung, does that mean that I didnt go to highschool according to them? That all I have is an ausbildung?

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And after completing Realschule in Croatia a person can usually go to university, does that mean that I cant go to university here? Because they dont see my profession as realschule but as ausbildung?

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I also did abitur back in Croatia

odd bison Jun 17, 2020, 4:06 PM

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as long as you have abitur you should be alright

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like what can I expect, if there are not many work places or idk

i think there are enough, don't expect to earn much though

cloud anchor Jun 17, 2020, 4:09 PM

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So my best bet would be to try to apply for a university? I have 12 years of school + EU abitur (Croatia)?

odd bison Jun 17, 2020, 4:10 PM

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yeah if you have abitur you can study whatever you want in germany

cloud anchor Jun 17, 2020, 4:16 PM

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So I kinda converted my abi grades and I passed mine with 2.5

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Not sure if that's good tho, will have to do some research

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Maybe it's a different grading system for abi here

tight kelp Jun 17, 2020, 6:00 PM

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ausbildung comes after school so it should be fine

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it's what you go through right before getting an actual full job

cloud anchor Jun 17, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Hmm okay I see

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i think there are enough, don't expect to earn much though

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That doesnt sound good

fleet pelican Jun 20, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Depends what sector you want to go into

silver wing Jun 22, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Hallo! Lebt jemand in Mannheim, Deutschland oder gibt es Studenten, die an der Uni dort studieren? Dieses Jahr bewerbe ich mich darum und ich habe ein paar Fragen über das Leben dort...

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Zurzeit sollte ich ein kurz Interview mit einem Studentenwohnheim machen und ich weiß nicht, was werde ich währenddessen nachgefragt.

warped atlas Jun 22, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Ich hatte dort studiert und gewoht, ja @silver wing

silver wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Ich hatte dort studiert und gewoht, ja @silver wing
@warped atlas Darf ich fragen, in welchem Wohnheim? Wie findest du das Studium dort und welches hast du ausgewählt?

warped atlas Jun 22, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Ich hatte allerdings in HS Mannheim studiert.

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Also, ich hatte damals in Ulmenweg gewohnt, ziemlich „weit“ von Zentrum, aber gemütlich, würde ich sagen

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Hafenstraße ist immer super für Partys, wenn dir das gefällt

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Und der Rest habe ich leider nicht so viel Information

silver wing Jun 22, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Hm, das klingt gut. Bis jetzt habe ich Antworten aus BRH und ADH aber weiss nicht, welches zu wählen

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Morgens habe ich Interview mit der Heimleitung von ADH und hoffe, dass alles gut passiert, weil ich dort wohnen möchte

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Hast du etwas über diese zwei Wohnheime gehört? @warped atlas

warped atlas Jun 22, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Hmmmm

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Ehrlich zu sagen, habe ich die beide nie gehört

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Also, die Studentenwohnheim war von HS Mannheim und Uni Mannheim organisiert. Die beiden sind wahrscheinlich eine andere Organisation

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Ich kann auch leider nicht sagen wie die beiden aussieht....also, gut oder schlecht kann ich nicht sagen

silver wing Jun 22, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Kein Problem, vielen Dank für die Info aber! Was sollte ich über Mannheim wissen? Was ist interessant dort?

olive summit Jun 23, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Can someone explain exactly what: "Die Küche kann vom Vormieter gegen eine Abstandszahlung übernommen werden." means. I know what it says but dont exactly know what a "distance payment" is.

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 5:13 AM

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@olive summit this may help
https://www.immobilien-wissen.de/abstandszahlung/

immobilien-wissen.de

Jan Stanetzki

Abstandszahlung an Mieter (Mietsrechtsreform) ⇒ Definition & Altern...

Definition des Immobilien-Begriffs 'Abstandszahlung' ★ Alternativen nach der Mietsrechtsreform ✔ Wissen, Erklärungen, Beispiele, Gesetze

olive summit Jun 23, 2020, 5:19 AM

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I think I understand. In the context of the kitchen, I would be paying for upgrades the previous tenant invested in via this "distance payment."

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:07 AM

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Hallo. Since i'm searching for accommodations in germany, can someone please tell me what kaltmiete and gesamtmiete would cover? It might helpful in selecting some place within my budget and more so since I'm looking for WGs.

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:13 AM

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kalt doesn't include bills like water and electricity. gesamtmiete includes all the those side bills. it's probably better to look at gesamtmiete as that will give you a pretty solid idea of exactly what you're paying. Internet may or may not be included in that price - iirc it depends so you'll want to double check if it is

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Thanks Sunset
I see, and are nebencosts also included in that? Because if not, then what would nebencosts constitute?

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:16 AM

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nebenkosten are included in gesamtmiete, but not the kalt price

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:16 AM

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So its like kaltmiete + nebenkost = gesamtmiete?

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:17 AM

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pretty much

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Alright, and any tips for me to find some accommodations as an international student?

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Like anything I should be careful about or find out from the landlords or so..?

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:19 AM

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how long are you staying? just a semester or for your whole degree?

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:19 AM

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It might be for a semester (I really hope) and then maybe in the uni's hostel.

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:20 AM

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one thing to note renoviert = redecorated saniert = they tore open the walls and replaced the old infastructure like pipes and cabling with new stuff

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for just a semester uni dorms will probably be your best bet. there are sometimes reserved beds for exchange students so your chances of finding a place are a lot better

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the conditions won't be the nicest. i.e. no plush carpet floors or airconditioning, but it will be cheap, conveniently located, and the least hassle as an exchange student

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those are usually done through a studentenwerk or self managed by students. there are more expensive private student dorm situations with all the mod cons in some cities but prices go up significantly for those

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Yeah exactly what I want, I'm kinda low maintenance in one sense and I don't want any grand luxuries, my lifestyle's more simple and spartan in one sense

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:24 AM

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what city/uni are you planning to go to if i may ask? i might be able to find the studentenwerk webstie for you

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:25 AM

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And by semester..well I'm gonna do my master's there so i guess it might be just two semesters (right?)

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Its Dortmund for now
Unless I get another offer from another uni

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:26 AM

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if you're doing a full degree it would probably be between two to four semesters. for 2+ semesters I think it's worth also looking at WGs since a year is a long enough to start making a home there

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student dorms still work but there are benefits to a nice WG

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Yes precisely my thought as well!

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So between a WG and the uni accommodation which would you suggest and why?

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Since for an international student, the uni dorm might be as you rightfully said more convenient

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:33 AM

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I've only had direct experience in a WG, but i had friends in dorms.
In a WG i found it easier to form friendships since my roommates quasi adopted me into their friend group, and they provided a lot of support in getting set up and finding my way around the city. The room was also properly my own space - i could put in my own furniture, i was only sharing a bathroom with 2 other people, rather than 15 strangers, i didn't have to worry about sharing communal spaces when i had friends over - the kitchen was just our kitchen so it was no worry when a bunch of people came over and we spent several hours taking up all the space. we also had a dishwasher and a bathtub - things you're far less likely to have in a dorm and they were a couple of nice creature comforts that added a plus to living there. it will also depend on your WG but mine was a bit quieter which suited me. I specifically didn't want to live in a space where there were raging parties every weekend etc

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I'll be right back..

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so sorry

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something urgrnt popped up

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Very sorry

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 9:37 AM

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no worries

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also if you're planning to do your masters there, getting set up in a WG will make it easier to stay if you decided you want to remain in germany
though one of the bigger (somewhat) downsides is the rooms bedrooms aren't always furnished so you may need to do that yourself but that also gives you the chance to furnish it how you like and <1000euro in ikea will get you covered

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that way you also don't have to use a mattress that has had who knows what kind of body fluids on it from who knows what people

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 10:33 AM

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@deep vessel I'm back, although I may have to go again after a while so I do apologize for the inconvenience

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And yes to what you've written above along with your WG experience, its kind of the same that I'd want. Quiet and not too party alive, more on the mellow side of stuff

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And your WG experience sounds really good, I wish and hope to have a similar one really

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For the furnishing I'm kind of fine with, it really depends after the first year how things would go really. I don't know if me thinking that far ahead would help even, but yeah the mattresses do stand for real concern in that sense. I can somehow cover that up still, its just something I'm hoping would be good for atleast the time i'm there for my master's

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Was bedeutet leben unter dem Dach? Ich weiss was es bedeutet aber wofür existiert dieser Kanal?

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So if you had to consider staying in germany for 2-3 years then would you say a WG would suit me? I guess one of the advantages to a uni dorm is the distance to the uni and maybe late night campus walks and stuff..

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Its given in the description of the room Brot, for any questions on education, life, work or culture and so on

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 11:03 AM

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@exotic barn Lies die Kanalbeschreibung. Oben auf PC, und in der Mitgliederliste auf Handy

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Achso

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 11:06 AM

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und falls du es nicht weißt
Deutschland
Austria - Österreich
Confoederatio Helvetica - Die Schweiz

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Also thanks for the info @deep vessel
In case I have some more doubts, may I ask you?

deep vessel Jun 23, 2020, 11:32 AM

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sure thing

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Thank you again!

spring veldt Jun 23, 2020, 11:48 AM

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ich hab ne Frage

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wie viel teurer ist es, in München zu studieren, also im Vergleich mit Städten wie Aachen oder Göttingen

silver wing Jun 23, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Bis jetzt habe ich nur gehört, dass in Aachen nicht so teuer ist. Ob das stimmt oder nicht, weiss ich nicht. Trotzdem empfehlen meine Freunden da die Stadt nicht, weil die für ihnen langweilig ist.

languid oyster Jun 23, 2020, 3:23 PM

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how common are 165 cm guys in germany

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or like west

flat nymph Jun 23, 2020, 3:31 PM

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maybe 1/15 or so of german males are that height. Just a guess though

languid oyster Jun 23, 2020, 3:33 PM

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like how well would 165 cm guy fit in

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is it like okay or will i look like a dwarf

olive summit Jun 23, 2020, 4:04 PM

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dwarfish

foggy prism Jun 23, 2020, 4:20 PM

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I mean it’s shorter than average (idk where the average is exactly but it’s above 170 for sure) but like, plenty of short people exist

tame forum Jun 23, 2020, 5:13 PM

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wear a long hat like charlie chaplin

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 5:21 PM

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heeellloo

tame forum Jun 23, 2020, 6:42 PM

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wrong channel @exotic barn

exotic barn Jun 23, 2020, 8:27 PM

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huh?

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ehm ok xD

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:06 AM

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📎 Rent_help.PNG

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can someone explain to me how much I am going to pay?

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:36 AM

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I guess I kind of understand it but what is the difference between Vertragsmiete and Gesamtmiete?

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:42 AM

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is this in berlin or a similar city with very high rent prices?

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:43 AM

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Berlin 😦

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:43 AM

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cause i have a feeling nach dem MietenWoG is after the rent cap

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:43 AM

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but who rents 470 single room appts for students?

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:43 AM

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this is just an educated guess here but the above price is what they'd like to charge mmlol and the below price is the actual price

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:44 AM

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oof thanks

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I really hope thats not the truth tho

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470 is waaaaay too much

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:44 AM

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i.e. you'd pay 273euro

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or 284 depending on the apartment size

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:45 AM

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and it says 273 on the website

📎 273.PNG

tight kelp Jun 24, 2020, 10:45 AM

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"ab" ;)

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:45 AM

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please no

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i cri

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i thought i had finally found an escape

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:45 AM

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i'm pretty confident 273 is the actual price

tight kelp Jun 24, 2020, 10:46 AM

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it does say gesamtmiete...

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(but it also says vorläufig)

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:46 AM

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and listing the contract rent may be a provision of MietenWoG

amber perch Jun 24, 2020, 10:48 AM

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how much should rent be for WG on average?
800 per month?

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:48 AM

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Soweit der Anwendungsbereich des MietenWoG Bln („Mietendeckel“) gegeben ist, d.h. keine Ausnahme nach § 1 MietWoG Bln vorliegt (insbesondere öffentlich geförderter Wohnungsbau), wird in diesem hier veröffentlichten Apartmentinserat grundsätzlich die nach dem Mieten WoG Bln zulässige Miete (Mietendeckelmiete) angegeben. Es wird darauf hingewiesen, dass, sofern das Mieten WoG Bln insgesamt oder teilweise für nichtig erklärt, außer Vollzug gesetzt wird, außer Kraft tritt oder in sonstiger Weise aufgehoben wird, wieder die ggf. höhere, gemäß den Regelungen des BGB zulässige Vertragsmiete zu entrichten ist und soweit die Nichtigkeitserklärung bzw. Außervollzugssetzung für die Vergangenheit erfolgt, die Differenz zwischen Mietendeckelmiete und Vertragsmiete für die gesamte Vertragslaufzeit nachzuzahlen ist. Es wird daher empfohlen, für diesen Fall entsprechend den Empfehlungen der Berliner Landesregierung angemessene Rücklagen zu bilden.

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this is the part im really worried about

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in case this is lifted ill have to pay the money back

tight kelp Jun 24, 2020, 10:48 AM

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how much should rent be for WG on average?
800 per month?
@amber perch depends on the place but 800/m would be basically robbery

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:48 AM

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average rent depends on location and apartment

amber perch Jun 24, 2020, 10:49 AM

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ok
what about places like koeln or jena

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ill probably move to these cities when i graduate

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:50 AM

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i don't know how accurate they are but you can check websites like this:
https://costof.live/cost-of-living/in/cologne

amber perch Jun 24, 2020, 10:51 AM

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looks pretty affordable
thanks

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lol i can't belive jena is more expensive than koeln

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jena is former east germany

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 10:55 AM

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well well well, you guys are right. Gesamtmiete is what I'll be paying if the Mietendeckel stays. if not I'll have to pay the money back

deep vessel Jun 24, 2020, 10:58 AM

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might have to hold off on that contract if you can then if the rent cap is still being fought in the courts

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I really need to move out though and I think I can manage to stay there for a year

tight kelp Jun 24, 2020, 11:24 AM

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it's so bullshit that people would have to retroactively pay more if the deckel goes

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 11:30 AM

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I just hope they don't make it for the past

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Because if they do, that won't be nice at all given also that 470 for this Apartment is quite a stretch

warped atlas Jun 24, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Rent Control, basically, or?

tropic edge Jun 24, 2020, 7:17 PM

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yeah

humble bough Jun 24, 2020, 11:08 PM

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depends on the place but 800/m would be basically robbery
just for reference, I have a room in a 2-person WG in Berlin within the Ringbahn and I'm only paying 427€ a month warm. If you're paying 800 a month for a room in a WG it had better be in the trendiest apartment in fucking Mitte lol

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Maybe Munich has prices like that but even that I'm doubtful of

shut prairie Jun 25, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Also, anscheinend gibt es verschiedene Goethe-Prüfungen für verschiedene Niveaus. Wenn ich ein C1 Zertifikat besitzen will, muss ich für eine C1 Prüfung bezahlen. Und was ist, wenn ich nicht genug Punkte für ein C1 erreiche? Könnte ich immerhin nach der Prüfung ein B Zeugnis erhalten, wenn ich dafür noch gut genug bin?

deep vessel Jun 25, 2020, 4:41 AM

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Mit Goethe nein. man braucht keine vorherige Zertifikate aber man bekommt auch nur das Zertifikat, das dem Prüfungsniveau entspricht. Also lege nur die Prüfung ab, die du wohl bestehen wirst, wenn nicht du dein Geld verschwenden willst.

tropic edge Jun 25, 2020, 5:10 AM

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soweit ich weiß, man kann die Prüfungsteile einzeln wiederholen

deep vessel Jun 25, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Ein paar Prüfungen (mindestens B1) sind Modulprüfungen. d. i. Für jeden bestandenen Abschnitt, bekommt man ein Zertifikat für diesen Abschnitt. Also muss man nur die durchgefallenen Abschnitte nochmals ablegen.

tame forum Jun 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Ja. B2 GOETHE prüfungen sind auch modular

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 1:54 PM

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So for one of my uni applications they only accept the English TOEFL test as proof of language ability, even though my native language is English. Is there some certification or something I can get from TOEFL without having to pay 255 dollars for the online test?

shut prairie Jun 30, 2020, 1:55 PM

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If your native language is English you shouldn't have to do TOEFL. Proof of your native language-ism should be enough. If you can't find information on this specific situation on their site, contact them

deep vessel Jun 30, 2020, 1:56 PM

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i don't know what specifically germany requires but if you have proof you did high school in an english language high school in an english speaking country you'll probably be good

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I did and they said they dont accept any other certification, perhaps they misunderstood my email.

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Yeah that's exactly what I thought

shut prairie Jun 30, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Maybe they did. It's absolutely impossible that they expect a native to do TOEFL.

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 1:56 PM

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gonna contact them again and emphasize I'm from the US

deep vessel Jun 30, 2020, 1:57 PM

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say specifically that english is your native language and that you went to an english speaking high school

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Alright I will, thanks.

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Yea I want to know how that ends up, seems concerning because I wouldn't want to have to take the TOEFL test as a native. O_o

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 2:48 PM

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It must be a misunderstanding. Every other German uni ive applied to did not require it, my educational history proved my language ability.

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:04 PM

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So wait are you going for your Bachelor's or Master's?

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because I want to know the process for Bachelor's from a person I can discuss it with

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Bachelor's

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:15 PM

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wait so why do they need to know your english fluency?

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:17 PM

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because the degree program is in English

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:17 PM

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is it the same price as the german program?

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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wym, there is no tuition. Only a "semester fee" of around 300 euros every semester

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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damn so it is

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I'm genuinely surprised that there's english programs

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:19 PM

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only a few, Master's are certainly more prevalent

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:19 PM

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oh ok which major are you going for?

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I'm applying for a few different Business programs

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:20 PM

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that's cool, so would a german firm see that you have a degree that was taken in english?
in case if that influences their decision

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:22 PM

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the degree you receive is the same at the end of a German program, it would probably only say it was done in English in the program description or something

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of course it helps to know some German either way since your language skills are on your resume

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and its easier for everyday life

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:22 PM

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right right

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I was just very concerned about trying to get a degree in a language that i'm not confident enough with

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I don't mind getting to B2 even but C1 and doing school in a different language just seems pretty hard

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:23 PM

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You can take German courses while completing your degree, I'm sure by the end of it you'll reach a comfortable level of German

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:24 PM

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thank god

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there's actually no one in my city teaching german or barely anyone so now I know another path to take for germany

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very helpful to know that

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so would you need to take a prep course or not?

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like studienkolleg

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:26 PM

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for German? no

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:26 PM

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no for uni in general

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:26 PM

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requirements vary by program

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:26 PM

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oh ok

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:27 PM

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the two big things are secondary school qualifications and a good command of English

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:28 PM

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that's actually fairly easy to do

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:35 PM

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during a masters, can we work part time on a student visa?

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i've researched this a bit and i've seen you can work 90 full day or 180 part day, but im not sure in which fields

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:35 PM

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i'm pretty sure if you work in a field that's associated with your degree it's unlimited

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but otherwise it's the 180 part time days

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:36 PM

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and i'd get taxed, right?

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:36 PM

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you don't get taxed until you go over the 180 days

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If i remember correctly that's why they say you CAN work over 180 days but then you would need to file taxes

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or pay them

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:37 PM

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it's actually 120/240 now

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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no way?

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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was 90/180 a year ago i think

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yea surprisingly

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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holy crap yea I remember the same

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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i do get taxed after 450 euros

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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seems like they need more work omegalul

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oh ok

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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but i can apply for tax return after leaving

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well

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maybe not for income tax i think

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just sales tax

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:39 PM

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yeah sales tax should be for everyone right?

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:39 PM

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yep any purchase has VAT/sales tax on it

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and in germany/EU it's quite high

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:40 PM

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13% or something like that?

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:40 PM

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i've seen 20% in some countries

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in my country it's 16%

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:40 PM

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christ man

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Jordan

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if u heard of it

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I have

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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europe is much higher

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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middle east?

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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ye

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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ah ok

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damn my tax is 8.375% here in the us

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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goddamn

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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but they include tax in the final price right?

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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not all stores

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mcdonald's does

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bless them

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:41 PM

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yea for sure

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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most stores also include it

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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tax isn't included with the price over here you need to calculate it

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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but restaurants typically dont

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damn that's shit

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we just do it in restaurants

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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tax plus tip sad hours

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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rarely go to restaurants cuz of taxes

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nevertheless, i'll have to research the working part of the student visa more

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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same but for the tip

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you should be fine

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:43 PM

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on my student visa i could work 40 hours every two weeks i believe

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I even heard studienkolleg people can work

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@olive summit was that sufficient for you?

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:43 PM

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or it was 20 hours a week i cant remember honestly

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:43 PM

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yes ive seen the 20 hours limit too

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:43 PM

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i worked 40 hours a month and what i was making was just enough to get by

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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so on top of my blocked account i can make enough money then

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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yeah the blocked account is very important

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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860 per month is enough for some places

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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make or break for your eligibility to study here basically

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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but ive seen rent in some places

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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my monthly costs are like half that is possible to survive on less

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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including rent?

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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yeah my rent is around 250 euros a month

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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damn that's quite low

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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i rent a room in a WG with 2 other students

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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even for a WG

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which city?

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if u dont mind

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:45 PM

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smaller city outside of Hamburg

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in the big cities it will be more of course

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:46 PM

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im going to Lingen soon and the prices there are hovering around 300 for a shared WG

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kinda annoying

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with the health insurance im already at 400 euros

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:46 PM

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thats pretty standard honestly

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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yeah i guess

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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id never pay 400 or more for a shared WG, 300 is about average

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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some cities have 500

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Köln for example

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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big yikes

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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check wg-gesucht lol

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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yeah thats why you avoid the cities, my girlfriend and I are getting a whole flat for 560

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:47 PM

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rather study in a city that's smaller

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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studying i agree

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if you got a job there maybe the wage is enough

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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I was looking into hannover because it's a city still but not that populated

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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idk tho

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Hannover is pretty boring honestly

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doesn't have a big historic center like Bremen or Hamburg

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:48 PM

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i guess

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but then again i'm just studying over there

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:49 PM

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where are the engineering jobs centered btw?

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:49 PM

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that's a good question

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if I had to guess maybe NRW?

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:49 PM

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i've heard that NRW is the homeplace for engineering

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Düsseldorf in particular and the cities around it

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:50 PM

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well Aachen is known for its technical programs

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:50 PM

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regardless of the academic POV

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:52 PM

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you can always move after graduation, and during your studies you'll have plenty of internship opportunities

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lot of programs require completed internships actually

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:52 PM

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damn in america you need to search far and wide for an internship

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:52 PM

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well it depends on the program but for ones where its required for graduation they aren't hard to come by

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:52 PM

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my uni requires that we do a 6 month internship in germany too

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despite the fact that we're not even germans

faint kelp Jun 30, 2020, 3:53 PM

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damn

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:53 PM

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you cant do grad/senior projects without the internship

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:53 PM

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just pick a nice city, keep quality of life and cost of living in mind

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of course if it hosts your program of choice as well

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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well if im studying in a city that doesnt really have engineering jobs, i can still work in stuff like teaching assistant or table waiting or library assistant and watnot

olive summit Jun 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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my first job here was a translator and student aid, made good money, moved on when the contract was completed

dry ravine Jun 30, 2020, 3:56 PM

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yeah i definitely could do translation even tho it's outside my field

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im hopeful

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cuz i cant do 2 full years of blocked account lol

lunar garden Jul 1, 2020, 7:39 AM

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that feel when you rode the bicycle for an hour in the morning ❤️

olive summit Jul 2, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Update: It was just a misunderstanding, I dont need to take the English TOEFL

shut prairie Jul 2, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Good

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Frage: wie viele Bewerbungen schickt ein würdiger Student an Universitäten normalerweise ab? Ich will mein Master in Deutschland studieren und habe drei beliebige Unis ausgewählt. Aber ich denke jetzt daran, ob ich mich vielleicht für andere auch bewerben sollte, um meine Akzeptanzchancen zu verbessern. Weiß aber nicht, ob ich den Mund zu voll nemmen würde.

serene kraken Jul 4, 2020, 9:21 PM

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Hallo Leute! I'm moving to Berlin in August and I need to find a job. I'm only 19 yo from Sweden and currently learning german. My german is only on an A2 level but i speak fluent swedish and english. Any tips on how I can get a job? I keep getting declined everywhere I apply

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I have been a sales person for maybe 2 years at the biggest chain in sweden called ICA (equivalent is Lidl, Edeka, REWE etc.) and I also have cleaning experience

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And a driver's license

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I'm thinking of going to places in person and hand out CV's but im not sure if that will work? Any tips?

bronze basin Jul 5, 2020, 1:58 AM

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https://jobboerse.arbeitsagentur.de/

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you can also use this site in other languages : )

fallen gull Jul 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Does anyone have tips for finding apartment in Munich? I don't speak German and it's very hard. I start my job in October 1st

olive summit Jul 5, 2020, 2:03 PM

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wg gesucht -- listings will typically say if they speak English
Immobilien24 -- same thing but more than just WGs

exotic barn Jul 6, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Hi Seiji. Ist that Website for only europäische nationals or for anyone eligible to work ? Thanks @bronze basin

bronze basin Jul 6, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Hi Dhaya! It is the official portal from the Arbeitsagentur (employment agency) for apprenticeships and jobs in Germany.

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You can apply for a work permit in Germany after having been offered a job.

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if you are not a citizen of a country in the EU, and you do not already have a visa that specifies "Erwerbstätigkeit gestattet", you can apply for one using a work contract with an employer. Once you receive the permission to work you can then begin working.

deep vessel Jul 6, 2020, 7:12 AM

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Depending on your country of origin you may however still need an entry visa to enter germany still

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e.g. a job seeking visa

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and in some non-eu countries you don't need a visa. just a residency permit for employment purposes (different from a visa)

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that is to say, check what your embassy says for you as there are a few different requirements / steps to take for different countries

exotic barn Jul 6, 2020, 7:52 AM

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Oh thats something new for me and good to know. Thanks much as usual @bronze basin

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Thanks alot @deep vessel

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I live in berlin as a student so next year this will be useful for me. G8 to know😊

bronze basin Jul 6, 2020, 8:10 AM

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there are a lot of rules about visas and restrictions aobut changing one visa type to another visa type that i do not know about tho so it might be good to inform yourself from some official source about your particular situation

exotic barn Jul 6, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Yes sure i will. Thanks

tame forum Jul 6, 2020, 10:31 AM

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guys this was stuck on a friends door. what is being said on this note?

📎 house.jpg

timid mist Jul 6, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Bitte den Müll ?entsorgen? Tonnen stehen neben dem Haus

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And a signature

tame forum Jul 6, 2020, 10:36 AM

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thenkss

timid mist Jul 6, 2020, 10:39 AM

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But what does entsorgen mean?

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I just said what i could read, but dont know if it was right

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Habe ich Recht?

tame forum Jul 6, 2020, 10:43 AM

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entsorgen mean to dispose the trash

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like to take care of it

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yes ur right

terse delta Jul 6, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Hi all! I was wondering if anyone would be willing to clarify the covid restrictions in nrw. I have a strong feeling my language school isn’t following them. Neither the ministry of health nor the hotline in my state were able to help as I am only an A2 level speaker.

glass trench Jul 6, 2020, 1:26 PM

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you should be able to find everything here: https://www.land.nrw/de/corona-multilingual#396b6cfd @terse delta

terse delta Jul 6, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Thanks @glass trench but from what I’ve read of the new regulations, it’s not clear whether students are meant to sit according to a fixed seating plan without masks/distance or if students are allowed to move around as they please and it is the teachers responsibility to record where they’re sitting everyday.

tight kelp Jul 6, 2020, 1:39 PM

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the rules given to me by my director (at a VHS in NRW):

at least 1.5m distancing between people at all times
1 person per 5m² (10m² in case of practice with blow instruments)
Masks must be worn inside the school but can be taken out inside the classroom
Separate entrance and exit in the school
The teacher must document where each student seats
Only people who attend the courses can enter the school

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this was two months ago and I haven't held my course since about march so if there's been any change I don't know

glass trench Jul 6, 2020, 1:41 PM

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I only found two news articels stating more or less the same things, I couldn't find an official source though

tight kelp Jul 6, 2020, 1:43 PM

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it's possible these rules were only given by mail to school directors, since they aren't technically direct concern of all citizens. The school would then inform the course takers about the parts they need to know about

terse delta Jul 6, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Thanks guys! Our class is too lager to maintain distance and most students aren’t wearing masks but I’ve been told that that’s fine as long as there’s a “seating plan”. I’m not exactly sure what that means in terms of whether or not we’re obligated to sit in a fixed place.

As far as entrances and exits are concerned, we only use one. We’ve been asked to enter/exit two at a time but it’s not enforced. Wasn’t sure if that was ok either but it seems it’s not.

We are asked to wear masks outside of the classroom.

tight kelp Jul 6, 2020, 1:59 PM

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we were advised to divide the course into groups

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you should sit in the same places every time and should not be too many into a classroom; if the group's too large it should be split

terse delta Jul 6, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I really appreciate the info. As this would make the third time I talk to the school about this, do you know if there a number I can call provided the situation doesn’t get any better?

tight kelp Jul 6, 2020, 2:19 PM

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no idea sorry

glass trench Jul 6, 2020, 2:21 PM

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you could call your local Gesundheitsamt

quaint stump Jul 8, 2020, 4:33 AM

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What's a useful job that requires knowing a foreign language besides teaching, interpreting and translating?

deep vessel Jul 8, 2020, 4:38 AM

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being a foreign diplomat

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working at an embassy

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or any government service that has a lot of foreign clients

quaint stump Jul 8, 2020, 4:39 AM

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oh yes! thank you sun i'll have a look into those

quartz shoal Jul 8, 2020, 7:31 AM

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Hello
Does anyone ever enrolled in a german course in Rheinland Privatschule? If yes, can you share some experience about its teaching method?
Thanks

foggy prism Jul 8, 2020, 9:22 AM

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@quaint stump Working in academia in a field that has a lot of texts in your target language. Tourism related jobs. Field journalist.

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Literally any job if you just move to a country the language is spoken in

jade warren Jul 8, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Hello: classic German bureaucracy meme situation. My employer wants me to have a krankenkasse right now even though I'm not in Germany yet. Is there anything I can do, like contacting a krankenkasse and getting them to say I will be with them as of XX date?
They also mentioned wanting me to have a Grenzgängerbescheinigung but considering I'm literally moving there for work I think they're just confused

warped atlas Jul 8, 2020, 1:19 PM

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@jade warren yes, contact your Krankenkasse through e-mail and get the information from them regarding your Versicherten-Nummer or something of the sort.

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Grenzgängerbescheinigung?? Dafuq?

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wait...

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Ah, okay, now I think I get it

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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenzgänger

Grenzg%C3%A4nger

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Anyway, just wiki Grenzgänger, and it sounded like something you'd need if you live in France, but work in Germany

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and you literally have to cross borders everyday to commute (popular between France and Switzerland at Geneva)

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The Krankenkasse would be able to give you a number as your ID, and that'd be enough for your employer to get things going. The actual insurance contract you'd sign when you first arrive

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and that's the one you'd probably need to bring around if it's somehow required

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the tricky one is when the employer is asking for Steuer-ID and Rentenversicherungsnummer

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you technically won't have that until you're actually registered in Germany

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and I have no idea how you'd get it when you've not set foot here

jade warren Jul 8, 2020, 1:26 PM

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I don't actually have a Krankenkasse yet. First time working and paying tax in Germany

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But I will choose one and contact them, thanks

warped atlas Jul 8, 2020, 1:27 PM

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yes, but you're supposed to find one even before you arrive (if you're not coming here first as a tourist to set things up)

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and using e-mail is enough to get the Krankenversicherung

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You don't pay anything yet for the registration

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You can perhaps ask directly to the Insurance guys on this, since they should be experienced on this

dry arch Jul 9, 2020, 10:00 AM

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When I studied in Germany I did not need to buy German health insurance before arriving

olive summit Jul 9, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Neither did I but that was because I arrived as a tourist

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Hallo! Im Oktober fange ich mein duales Studium an. Es macht mir aber schon richtig Sorge, wie sollte ich meine Kollege am ersten Arbeitstag begrüßen, weil mitten in dieser Pandemie es empfehlenswert ist, von Handschütteln abzusehen. Ich weiß nicht, welche ist unhöflicher. Sollte ich ohnehin meine Hand geben? Ich habe gehört, in Deutschland sollte der Jüngere die Hand anbieten. Könnte jemand in Deutschland mir bestätigen, wie gehen die Leute heutzutage mit Handschütteln um?

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meine Sorge klingt ja ziemlich albern, ich will aber einen guten ersten Eindruck machen.

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Hände solltest du nicht geben

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Also während Corona

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Das macht eig. niemand...

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Wo genau machst du dein Studium?

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Bundesland

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:02 PM

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in Berlin

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Nice

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:03 PM

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sogar am Arbeitsplatz?

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:04 PM

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Wenn du es in Hamburg machen würdest, würde ich empfehlen "Moin" zu sagen xD

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aber nur in Hamburg xD

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Okay, danke für den Tipp XD

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Ich meine, in meinem Heimatland gebe ich nach wie vor die Hand

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wenn das Gesprächpartner aber es ablehnt, dann ist es okay

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:06 PM

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xD sry konnte nicht so wirklich helfen xD

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Okay, danke für den Tipps XD
@formal bloom 'Tipp'

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or 'Okay, danke für die Tipps'

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xD

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Ich hab Singular gemeint :))

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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ja ik xD

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Kommst du dann aus Deutschland?

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:08 PM

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Jo

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:09 PM

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cool

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@fleet raft also unter normalen Umständen, ist der Jüngere wirklich derjenige, der die Hand erst anbietet?

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Um ehrlich zu sein ist es bei mir so, dass es keinen Unterschied macht.

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Ach so, das hab ich im Forum einmal gelesen

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Also in meinem Alter...

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Ich weiß nicht wirklich wie es bei den älteren ist xD

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Ich weiß nicht wirklich wie es bei den älteren ist xD
@fleet raft Ja das ist meine Sorge. Manche ältere Leute halten ja die Pandemie usw. für übertrieben (Ich hab nichts dagegen, ist ja ihre Meinung). Also nehme ich an, dass manche Leute nach wie vor ein Handschütteln von mir erwarten.

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:20 PM

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NICHT die Hand geben

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generell

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Während der Pandemie sollte man sowas vermeiden

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Ich denke nicht, dass irgendjemand von dir erwartet die Hand zu geben.

formal bloom Jul 9, 2020, 12:23 PM

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Ich denke nicht, dass irgendjemand von dir erwartet die Hand zu geben.
@fleet raft alles klar :))

fleet raft Jul 9, 2020, 12:24 PM

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Bis jetzt hat niemand von mir sowas erwartet...

modern spruce Jul 9, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Korrektionsarbeit ist nie eine schlechte Idee

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warped atlas Jul 9, 2020, 2:42 PM

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When I studied in Germany I did not need to buy German health insurance before arriving
@dry arch Neither did I, but to apply for the Visa as a student, coming from a 3rd World country, I need to have a registration letter at a Krankenkasse (in this case, it was TK) as part of the official docs to hand over

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Then after I arrived, about 2 days in, I met up with the insurance guy I had talked to over e-mail, and we just basically signed the contract. This was in a span of 1 hour (or less) @jade warren

dry arch Jul 9, 2020, 7:00 PM

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@warped atlas funny, I also had insurance with TK haha

jade warren Jul 9, 2020, 10:09 PM

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i'm an eu citizen so there is no visa stuff. it's just that i'll be working, so health insurance is mandatory if i wanna be paid

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im gonna get set up on a krankenkasse tomorrow :--)

icy hamlet Jul 9, 2020, 11:46 PM

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@warped atlas from what part of the world?

warped atlas Jul 10, 2020, 5:44 AM

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SE Asia @icy hamlet

dry arch Jul 10, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Eventually I am hoping to get German citizenship, regardless of if I can keep my American citizenship or not. Don’t really plan on staying in America for very long periods of time again anyway.

humble bough Jul 10, 2020, 11:19 AM

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this might seem like a stupid or obvious question but just to sanity check -- I need to go to the doctor's to pick up a prescription. I emailed and they said I could come during their Sprechzeit. On the website, they have their Sprechzeiten listed, with some times listed as (Privat). Does this refer to people who have private insurance, or does it mean something else?

hidden briar Jul 10, 2020, 11:56 AM

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private insurance

humble bough Jul 10, 2020, 12:18 PM

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woo okay good, I've got private insurance so I wanted to be sure before I showed up and it was something else

last arrow Jul 10, 2020, 10:49 PM

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To be eligible for naturalization, a person has to have lived legally in Germany for at least eight years and possess the appropriate residence permit.
What constitutes legally living for 8 years?

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Does that mean you can't leave Germany for 8 years or are there a specific amount of times where you can go to other countries?

exotic gorge Jul 10, 2020, 11:08 PM

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It's probably legal residency. You have an apartment or house that is your permanent residence for at least 8 years. You can still travel because the hotel/hostel/Airbnb is not a permanent or legal residence.

last arrow Jul 10, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Wait, so if you study in another country or live somewhere else currently , but as long you have been owning some sort of residence for 8 years you are eligible for citizenship?

exotic gorge Jul 10, 2020, 11:15 PM

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Study abroad may require a visa, so that might not count to the year total. You probably can't have dual residency anywhere (like own a home in Germany but rent it out or leave it vacant and live somewhere else). Legal residency has some legal requirements of course, and I don't know the specifics for Germany.

hearty wadi Jul 10, 2020, 11:35 PM

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I think it’s like... having legal permanent resident status for that long

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Unless I’m sorely mistaken

amber perch Jul 11, 2020, 3:48 AM

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I think it can be shortened to 7 or 6 years in some cases

tame forum Jul 11, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Study years aren't counted afaik

exotic barn Jul 11, 2020, 1:53 PM

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To get a student visa in Germany I need 10,236 euros in my account but do I just need to prove that once when I apply for the visa?

last arrow Jul 11, 2020, 2:16 PM

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iirc there's some kind of form

static lark Jul 11, 2020, 2:53 PM

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They usually don’t give you a student visa for your whole study period so you might have to prove it multiple times. Might be yearly. @exotic barn

exotic barn Jul 11, 2020, 2:57 PM

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I see, thanks for the reply :D @static lark

olive summit Jul 11, 2020, 3:07 PM

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believe its every 2-3 years, also needs to be in a Deutsche Bank blocked account

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if you have family in the country who can financially support you they can sign what's called a Verpflichtungserklärung, basically a statement claiming they will support you

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in that case you do not need the blocked account

warped atlas Jul 11, 2020, 3:25 PM

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Legal residency and paying the tax pension for 8 years in total. 7 if you're educated here @last arrow

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I don't think a student is counted, though, so you gotta be a contributing member of society already

last arrow Jul 11, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Ok so I'm just a highschool student and this is a highly hypothetical question

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I reside in Indonesia. Suppose I want to get a naturalization in Germany. So I buy and state my legal residence there. Then, I spend 4 years of UG in the US and maybe 2 years of masters somewhere. If I pay the tax, I have both legal residency and have paid the tax so I am eligible for applying even though I spend 4 years in the US?

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Or am I misunderstanding legal residency?

deep vessel Jul 11, 2020, 4:01 PM

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iit's specified that you must live in germany

last arrow Jul 11, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Ah, I see.

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And what constitutes living in Germany?

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Suppose I want to have 3 months of holiday each year in my home country, is that allowed?

deep vessel Jul 11, 2020, 4:03 PM

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i'd presume so. as long as it's clear that you've made germany your home and spend the majority of your time in germany

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generally the german embassy/consular website for your country (in my case https://australien.diplo.de/) will give you the info for residency permits in your native language

last arrow Jul 11, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Ah, alright. Thanks for the help, all of y'all.

deep vessel Jul 11, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@last arrow found the legal text that specificially applies here: https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stag/englisch_stag.pdf

Section 12b
[Interruptions of residence]
(1) Ordinary residence in Germany is not considered interrupted by stays abroad of up to six
months. In case of longer stays abroad, ordinary residence in Germany is deemed to
continue if the foreigner re-enters the federal territory within the deadline stipulated by the
foreigners authority. The same applies if the deadline is exceeded solely on account of the
foreigner carrying out statutory military service in his or her country of origin and the
foreigner re-enters the federal territory within three months of discharge from military or
community service.
(2) If the foreigner has resided abroad for more than six months for a reason of a nontemporary nature, the previous period of residence in Germany may be counted towards the
duration of residence which is necessary for the purposes of naturalization, up to a period of
five years.
(3) Interruptions in the lawfulness of residence are disregarded if they arise as a result of the
foreigner having failed to apply in good time for initial issuance or subsequent extension of
the residence title.

last arrow Jul 11, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Ooh, that's interesting.

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Thank you

deep vessel Jul 11, 2020, 4:13 PM

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and before you even think about naturalisation you first need to get a hold of a visa/residency permit that allows you to live/work in germany

warped atlas Jul 12, 2020, 6:18 AM

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@last arrow Here's the full requirement of naturalization https://www.stuttgart.de/item/show/334738/1

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I was mistaken about the taxes for naturalization. That one was the Permanent Residency requirement (Niederlassungserlaubnis)

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From the loophole I gather, it'd probably mean, if you do a 4 years Bachelors, then a 2 years Masters, you pretty much need another 2 years before you have the minimum time requirement to apply for naturalization

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but that's the TIME requirement. You still need a job, you still need a German language certificate, and you still need to have behaved the whole 8 years

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then you can join in

last arrow Jul 12, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Ah, alright. Thank you!

hearty wadi Jul 12, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Ok so. I’ve been messaging people on fb and wg gesucht the last few days and I keep running into the problem that on the rare occasion that I actually hear a response, they always want people to come visit in person. That’s a problem bc I’m not gonna be in wien until September... am currently in the US and I physically cannot visit these places in person. Very yikes and I’m getting quite frustrated

tame forum Jul 12, 2020, 6:08 PM

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Aak them if they can do the interview/get to know session online or through an app. If they say no, try using the corona card @hearty wadi

hearty wadi Jul 12, 2020, 6:40 PM

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yeah i'm gonna do that with future messages - this one place was pretty adamant abt coming in person