archived-culture-study-visa

[faint plaza]

should be in german tho

if you apply for a non student research job you would have to change some/a lot of stuff

[fair talon]

Well, its an English language university, and posting is in English also

[faint plaza]

Ah than it is okey

Didn’t knew that

[fair talon]

Yeaaah, thats why im hoping to get this one lol, put that off a few years xD

[faint plaza]

😅

But looks good

Better than mine 😂

[fair talon]

Danke schon :p
One of the benefits of writing your own job description is having HR-approved bs

[faint plaza]

I am used to put my hobby’s in the cv

Seems like a German thing

🤔

@fair talon hahaha yeah

[fair talon]

And you know the best part?

Everything else at that job is behind a 5 year NDA

So theres no way for my bs to be called out on xD

[faint plaza]

Hahahahaha

[fair talon]

Thanks for looking it over though 👍 much appreciated

This job is like, my ideal student job xD basically researching shit and making powerpoint slides from home ("location-independent") for 10E and 10 hours/week

[tight kelp]

@faint plaza what would you say he'd have to change if it weren't a student job?

[exotic barn]

Was denkt ihr über die Studentenverbindungen? Ob ein ausländischer Student da mitmachen kann oder lieber nicht?

[hidden briar]

viele (aber nicht alle) sind eher am rechten Rand einzuordnen. Die die bereit sind einen Ausländer aufzunehmen, sind eher weniger rechts.

[exotic barn]

Kann sich das negativ auf mein Image auswirken, wenn es sich herausstellt, dass ich im Corps bin?

[faint plaza]

@tight kelp weil er so krass in die Details geht

In den CV schreibst du nur deine Arbeit Geber

Im Anschreiben was du gelernt hast und so

[tight kelp]

hm

[faint plaza]

Meine Meinung

[tame forum]

Oh yess i read it on reddit too that studentneverbindunhen are often far right

[fair talon]

Yikes

Also, speaking of yikes

Tf YouTube?

Apparently watching history videos at 2pm in Germany means im a collector of Nazi paraphernalia 😅

[faint plaza]

Seems so

Never happened to me tho @fair talon

[fair talon]

Could a German illuminate me on what just happened?
I was in a Kaufland (supermarket) and as I passed the bakery, I spotted a Marshmallow, Pecan, Chocolate covered donut, so as an American, I took a picture to show my folks back home.
As soon as I took it though, some lady in a store uniform started talking a million miles an hour about "No fotos!" until I deleted it 😅

I mean, I know pictures of people are super restricted, but food too?

[faint plaza]

Eh no

Lol

I worked in the Einzelhandel for years

And Never heard of a no Fotos of Food

Lol

[vague brook]

its usually verboten to take photos in those huge markets

no idea why

but its the same in poland 🤷

[faint plaza]

Lol never heard of a picture ban

[fair talon]

Thats just weird 😅

[vague brook]

i know, i never really understood the reason behind it

[fair talon]

Any other photo restrictions I should know about while im asking? 😅

[vague brook]

not that im aware of

[fair talon]

I know people = no go, I think buildings are no go for commercial shit

[vague brook]

just tell them to hal die fresse if they make problems

[fair talon]

I feel like for some reason I should not follow that advice. Can't quite figure out why... 🤔

[vague brook]

there usually should be some Schild saying that taking photos is forbidden

[fair talon]

Well, I didnt see any 😅 then again, I cant read

[tropic edge]

Halt die klappe works too

Fr tho, don't do that. Just ask a simple Entschuldigen Sie mich, aber ist es verboten? Then follow with a simple darf ich fragen warum denn? Then wrap it up with an alles klar and pocket your phone without deleting the picture.

Works really well if there are actually no rules in place and people just want to exercise some form of authority

[faint plaza]

Ok so

No people

No state buildings from the us and other stuff

As far as I know

But pictures that are forbidden in a fucking Kaufland is new to me

You could send an email to the Kaufland HQ tbh @fair talon

[fair talon]

Thats way too much effort for a simple photo 😅 I just wont go Kaufland

[faint plaza]

Lmao

[tropic edge]

Kaufland is good tho. It's better than Edeka and Rewe in terms of product variety, and offers as well. Imho

[tight kelp]

I think it's to "protect" themselves from certain apps that ask users to contribute data. For whatever reason.

[jagged oasis]

photo restrictions are usually on the basis that competitor stores could use the information about prices and stock to undercut and outcompete

i believe

[fair talon]

Which is dumb, cause like

Youd be writing that shit down anyway 😂

But im assuming its the same folks who thought criminals would use Google Street View to see if you were home or not.

[tame forum]

Yah thats a stupid way.... If the konkurrent store was determined its easy to find out prices lol

[lunar garden]

has anybody registered to the Bundeswehr as an immigrant? if so how did it go?

[tight kelp]

i don't think you can without german citizenship? 🤔

[lunar garden]

that is why I mention immigrant, as in people who obtained a german citizenship later on in their life 🙂

I think, I might have switched up the term by accident a little bit, but yeah I guess you can sorta see what I mean

[faint plaza]

@lunar garden you can if you got the German citizenship

I believe you shouldn’t be to old for it

If you wanna get infos go to a Karriere Berater

From the Bundeswehr

[exotic barn]

What’s the easiest way to get German citizenship and also can you have dual citizenship with Germany?

I am a US citizen just to clarify (just in case my name didn’t make that obvious enough already)😄

[deft stone]

marry

[exotic barn]

Lol yeah I knew that one already

What’s the second easiest way

I mean actually finding someone you want to marry isn’t an easy task in itself tbh

[deft stone]

why do you want citizenship? what about a permanent visa?

[exotic barn]

I’ve never heard of a permanent visa before

[deft stone]

first search result, maybe it helps https://www.expatica.com/de/moving/citizenship/how-to-get-german-citizenship-or-a-permanent-visa-108795/

[exotic barn]

I just know I want to spend longer amounts of time here (cuz I’m already here right now) without having to deal with a complicated visa process each time, so that’s why I originally wanted citizenship.

Okay, ty, I’ll check that out 👍🏼

[fair talon]

Permanent resident sounds like what you're looking for

[faint plaza]

Or Einbürgerung @exotic barn

Either ways work

[humble bough]

Einbürgerung is citizenship tho?

isn't it?

anyway, don't you pretty much need to first become a permanent resident in order to get citizenship anyway? even if you get married to a german citizen, it's like a process iirc

[faint plaza]

Yes it is the citizenship.
And yes you need to for the second thing

Or work for 9 years in Germany and prove it to get the citizenship

[dry nacelle]

Erste Hochrechnung der Nationalratswahl in Österreich

[cinder barn]

habs schon gsehn

[dry nacelle]

Hat sich mittlerweile ein bisschen verändert, aber nicht wesentlich

[cinder barn]

fpö - 10 lol

[faint plaza]

Oh fuck

Kurz Comeback?

Hoffe mal nicht

[cinder barn]

def

[faint plaza]

Pls no

[dry nacelle]

Tschüss schwammerlpeter lol

[cinder barn]

kurz is kanzler

[faint plaza]

Pls no

[cinder barn]

ich glaub ja türkis grün

[dry nacelle]

Kurz is fix

Ich auch

[cinder barn]

is scho ziemlich fix

[faint plaza]

Kann man Kurz rausschmeißen?

[dry nacelle]

Nein

[faint plaza]

So per Flugzeug nach Nigeria schicken?

[cinder barn]

kurz is neuer kaiser von österreich

[dry nacelle]

Es gibt keine realistische mehrheit ohne övp

[faint plaza]

“Kaiser”

[cinder barn]

außer grüne und fpö koalieren lel

[faint plaza]

Eher Behinderung in AT

[cinder barn]

mit spö

[dry nacelle]

[faint plaza]

Grüne und FPÖ is des schlecht bei euch?

[cinder barn]

das kurz gewinnen wird war aber schon vorher klar

[dry nacelle]

Vilimsky sieht die fpö aber in der opposition jetzt

[cinder barn]

kurz hat einfach alle fpö wähler wieder zurückgeholt

[dry nacelle]

Weit links und weit rechts wird einfach nicht gehen @faint plaza

[faint plaza]

Ahhhh

Sag niemals nie

[dry nacelle]

[cinder barn]

lol

Schau ma mal wie's weitergeht xD vllt gibts in zwei jahren eh scho wieder wahl

[dry nacelle]

Dann gibts den Mallorcaskandal

[cinder barn]

lol

ich würd in kurz scho gern amal bsoffen sehn

[dry nacelle]

Mit hochroten ohren

[cinder barn]

😂

[foggy prism]

ihr habt auch wahlen, eh?

bei uns sind sie in nem halben monat

[cinder barn]

heute war wahltag :d vorgezogene wahlen wegen dem Ibiza skandal

[foggy prism]

hab heute mal so nen wen-soll-ich-wählen fragebogen gemacht (meinen wahlzettel hab ich schon letztes Wochenende ausgefüllt, weil ich nicht mehr nach Hause gehe bis zu den Wahlen)
laut dem hätte ich für die jungen sozialen stimmen sollen, hab aber für die alten gestimmt ^^

ausser eine von den jungen, weil ich die persönlich kenne und weiss, dass sie halbwegs sinnvolle moralität hat

[dry nacelle]

Wahlkabine.at kannst nicht ernst nehmen

Kannst gleich denken und kommt was ganz anders heraus

[fleet parrot]

Hey Leute, könnt euch mir helfen. Ist Studium in Uni sehr schwieriger als in FH?

[tame forum]

@fleet parrot depends on the subject obviously. And I dont know for sure if its easier or tougher, but read on websites that FH's are easier. uni= theoretical orientated and FH is practical orientated.

[fleet parrot]

@tame forum thank you so much 😬

[tame forum]

@fair talon u have a lidl yah?,

If u do we both can get 5 euros

If i put in ur phone number while registering

[analog peak]

Does anyone here live in or near Heidelberg? I wanna ask them a couple questions if its fine with them ty

[vague brook]

ask here

[analog peak]

Is Heidelberg a good place to live in for foreigners? How's the environment, living costs, and openness to strangers? Is it a safe place?

Is English understood in the city or is German the only language most people are able to comprehend?

Is Heidelberg University really the best university in Germany to study Medicine at an undergraduate level? (State Examination Course)

Are there good language institutes in the area?

If someone can answer these it'd be greatly appreciated ❤

[fair talon]

@tame forum wait, just saw the message. Did you do that already?

I want that food money 👀👀👀

[tame forum]

@fair talon nope didnt do it

I was gonna but i got some error so u got lucky lol

[fair talon]

Well, if you want to try again now, im down :D

[vague brook]

Is Heidelberg University really the best university in Germany to study Medicine at an undergraduate level? (State Examination Course)

I don't know about Heidelberg, but i can tell you one thing - you forget 90% of what you learned in preclinical before you are done with the university anyway, and since staatsexamen are well, "staat", wherever you study and how much you learn is in 90% up to you anyway

also, medical universities have this thing about them, the more prestigious it seems, the more psychopaths it attracts

[tame forum]

Thats interesting

Lol

[vague brook]

psychopaths as in "i'm going to make students life hell, because we're so prestigious"

[tame forum]

Oh

I thought u were talking about the students?

[vague brook]

(and Heidelberg Uniklinik has plenty of nasty things going behind the scenes, and it perfectly confirms my point)

no, people working there

[tight kelp]

what sort of nasty things? I'm curious now

(ping with answer)

[vague brook]

@tight kelp https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/mannheim/Uniklinikum-zieht-Konsequenzen-Heidelberger-Bluttest-Skandal-Klinikchef-bekommt-Lehr-und-Forschungsverbot,bluttest-lehr-undforschungsverbot-100.html

from a students standpoint it makes no difference probably

[faint plaza]

Heidelberg hat noch ne richtige shitshow vor sich haha

Wer denen noch vertraut ist jetzt selber schuld

[warped atlas]

@analog peak

Is Heidelberg a good place to live in for foreigners?
Yes

How's the environment, living costs, and openness to strangers? Is it a safe place?
It‘s a rather beautiful city, with its old town, the center of attraction. Tourists love to come to Heidelberg, which is why quite a lot of foreigners live there. Living costs as in food, is normal. Living costs as in rent, it‘s quite high. Moreover, you‘ll have a HUGE difficulty trying to find an apartment.

Is English understood in the city or is German the only language most people are able to comprehend?
Yes it is, but using German gets you even further

Is Heidelberg University really the best university in Germany to study Medicine at an undergraduate level? (State Examination Course)
As far as I understand from my ex, yes. Although it also depends on what exactly you wanna learn. It seemed that Uni Heidelberg is “the best all rounder” and for example Uni Tübingen is great for emergency medicine.

Are there good language institutes in the area?
Can‘t name em, but yes there are

And in addition to what Vahti said, according to my ex, the more „prestigious“ the school is, the more its students are stuck up and looking down on a lot of people. There‘s also quite a few rich Germans with rich parents or people in the higher echelons of Germany studying using their coattails. No wonder they‘re stuck up.

Source: I lived in Mannheim and had an ex studying in Uni Heidelberg, so I heard stories

[vague brook]

there are plenty language schools in both mannheim and heidelberg

[humble bough]

so weird question but -- I got a free bottle of Fritz Rhabarberschorle with my takeout due to a mixup and it has this white-grey stuff at the bottom of the bottle. Does anybody know what that is/if it's normal/safe to drink?

[faint plaza]

Could you send us a pic? @humble bough

[humble bough]

I'm attempting to take one but the lighting in my room is Bad

hrm... well........ in trying to get the bottle into a good angle for a picture, the residue got mixed in with the soda so..... hrm

[faint plaza]

This stuff is normally the stuff that you can drink. You shake it and than just drink it. Fruchtfleisch meistens

[tame forum]

I have a question about an email i got:

"Das Zimmer ist jetzt frei und Bezugsfertig.

Sie können die Schlüssel wie folgt abholen;

Terminvergabe zum Einzug in das Wohnheim

Rufen Sie bei Ihrem Eintreffen an.

Die Handy Nr. des zuständigen Hausmeisters (eventuell Vertreter)hängt neben der Eingangstür Ihres Wohnheimes.

Erreichbarkeit: (an Werktagen)

Montag, Dienstag und Donnerstag von 8 Uhr bis 15 Uhr.

Mittwoch von 10 Uhr bis 15 Uhr.

Freitag von 8 Uhr bis 14 Uhr.

Wichtig: Mietvertrag und Ausweis nicht vergessen!!!!

Ich habe bis zu vier Wohnheime (560 Bewohner/innen) zu betreuen.

Es kann zu etwas Wartezeit kommen.

Phone number of the person who sent the email (i think)"

So in this email, is the person telling me to call him when i arrive, or the person, whose number is hanging near the door. He normally never mentions any phone number but mentioned it this time in the email

Btw this is the actual formatting of the email, sorry for the wall of text

[tight kelp]

it's not really clear, but since the sentences are next to each other i'm guessing you're supposed to call the hausmeister

maybe you'll find that the number in the email is the same as the one on the door and the problem will be solved :P Keep both and when it comes to it, call one and explain the situation, if it's the wrong number you can just call the other one

[tame forum]

Yahh. I will prolly do that. Thankx

[exotic barn]

Yeah, you're supposed to call the janitor

[analog peak]

Sorry for seeing the messages late, but thank you so much, @vague brook and @warped atlas

[fair talon]

Question: I'm planning to submit two months notice (its in my contract, I know its normally three) to my landlord, and I was wondering which method I should use, given that I live in the same flat as her. I want it written, just to protect myself, but I was wondering if there was anything simpler than walking to the post and mailing it back to my own place 😅

[solemn bay]

Do they have a mailbox you can put it in yourself?

[fair talon]

We kinda both share it, but yeah 😅

(Theres one per flat in the building)

[warped atlas]

Why not just have it as printed paper and hand deliver?

[fair talon]

Well, I was just trying to figure out what to have on the paper 😅 (first time giving notice like this. For my landlord back in the US I just sent a text)

[warped atlas]

Ehh...you gotta do it the other way around

as in find a Studium and then find a Nebenjob that can help you pay rent

but more or less, you gotta have some money, or some kind of Scholarship that would be enough for the Sperrkonto

how (little) you spend your Sperrkonto is up to you

[warped atlas]

If you're not of EU country, but of countries that have international relationship with Germany that includes free visa as a tourist for 3 months or so, then sure, you can come here directly and try to find a job using a tourist visa

if you have a competitive degree in STEM and/or also the work experience to match, you could even be hired quite fast.

I guess what I'm saying is, research first what you can do to enter the country legally to look for a job

some people were able to get local (german) companies to sponsor their work visas

as for them studying, I have not heard it, since it's also quite difficult to do half and half at the same time, nor it is often done here

some do night classes at the local VHS, but that's another thing

there are also those who do remote studying

but that would also take some time

Hmm

in this case, I'd rather summon @tight kelp

Cause I think Berzi's experience would be able to help you more

Some Ausbildungen would pay you good enough to "barely" live

I still don't think you can do it without having your QoL taking a toll

[faint plaza]

Ausbildungen would need Atleast lvl B2 German Skills

[warped atlas]

I've never taken an Ausbildung before

and I went straight to Masters in Germany, coming from outside the EU

[faint plaza]

I did an Ausbildung

From start till end

You speak German on lvl C1 than?

If so just apply for an Ausbildung.

[warped atlas]

Ausbildung can be applied without care of the background, or? @faint plaza

....how rusty are we talking about here?

[faint plaza]

What ya mean exactly?

For Ausbildung you need a working permit and visa

Including good German skills

If not don’t even do it

You Need the speaking tho

[tight kelp]

You don't need a visa if you're from the EU. Which is not quite the same as just any european country. You probably know this but it can't hurt to point it out

[faint plaza]

Work in a Hotel.

English basic German is good

The more languages you speak the better

[tight kelp]

Ausbildung are accessible easily enough depending on the field. There is a shortage of people in many of them recently

[faint plaza]

Berzi für die Ausbildung sollte man schon deutsch sprechen können und das gut

Yes it saitama

[tight kelp]

He said he has c1

[tame forum]

But he said rusty

[warped atlas]

I meant Ausbildung like....I wanna be an IT technician

or I wanna be a cook

or....I wanna be a Mechaniker at the Werkstatt

or....I wanna be a...nurse? Can you do it with an Ausbildung? 🤔

[faint plaza]

Yes

To become a nurse it takes 5 years

My buddy is a nurse

5 years of school and hospital

No it depends on the company

Some want a gymnasium degree

Some Hauptschule

And some Realschule

[tight kelp]

which, for context, are all pre-uni level

[faint plaza]

Not all lol

[warped atlas]

Ah I see

[faint plaza]

Only gymnasium is pre Uni lvl

[vague brook]

dont do nurse ausbildung in germany

not worth your life

[faint plaza]

It is low saitama

Really low

[vague brook]

depends on the ausbildung

some are not even paid

[faint plaza]

Depending on the job you learn around 500-1000€

That what vahti said

[vague brook]

some are like 1300, but im pretty sure its pretax

and im also not sure how bafög works

[warped atlas]

Ausbildung works if you have somebody helping you at the side

in this case, your parents or something

by the end you can be an expert and do rake in the "normal" money

[vague brook]

i mean you probably can somehow survive with 1k euro

[warped atlas]

yeah

[vague brook]

not in münchen probably

[warped atlas]

but like I said, your QoL suffers

[vague brook]

but QoL is bad

[tame forum]

What is QoL

Ohkk

Got it

[tight kelp]

yeah for a few days

then you get scurvy

[vague brook]

if you are really desperate you could probably manage with a minijob

[warped atlas]

Quality of Life.....

just in case

[tame forum]

I have a small question regarding this pic,

[warped atlas]

Find a rich Landbauer....

well

[vague brook]

no, it shouldnt look like that

for a second i thought its the wall

[tame forum]

The studierendenwerk told if theres any damage i should report it, is the grey thing called a carpet?

Lol vahti

[warped atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBHMjPpgMrs

[tame forum]

Like i dont wanna write "carpet is cracked and peeling" and they will be wondering wtf i am talkin about

[warped atlas]

no wait, that's not the right one

hmm...

better look again

[vague brook]

herr meister da gibts keinen boden in meinem zimmer

[tame forum]

i guess i will put in the report and try to send the guy in the email some pictures too.

[vague brook]

how does bafög work? they calculate your geld per capita in your family and then you get free monies if you are learning/studying?

interesting

i had to take a straight out student credit, but the rates are not that bad since the credit was more like a monthly support

like 70€ or so per month

is what i pay nowadays

i guess the paperwork and constant proving of how poor you are is humiliating

just asking out of curiosity because the term is flying around

doesnt really affect me anymore :p

[warped atlas]

but I think the Bfög system still needs to be improved

a friend of mine has her parents divorced

but she didn't get any Bafög because the father is a doctor (meaning rolling in cash), even though the mother can't get enough money to sustain all three daughters (all of whom are not with the father)

but apparently system didn't care

[amber perch]

how hard is it to get into the max planck/leibniz institutes (as a postdoc)?
what about other postdocs in universities?

[fair talon]

Odd, my question gets insta-deleted here when I try to ask it

At least when I copy paste it

[glass trench]

it's the spam filter, sorry :c

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,hiermit kündige ich den Mietvertrag für mein Zimmer in der Wohnung STREETADDRESS zum (Is this the date im giving notice or the date ill be leaving?). Es handelt sich hierbei um die Wohnung in der _,Anschrift der Wohnung.Etage EG, mit der Wohnungsnummer __Ich bitte um eine schriftliche Kündigungsbestätigung.Ich werde Sie in den nächsten Tagen kontaktieren, Zwecks Besprechung dernächsten Schritte (Übergabetermin, Kautionsrückzahlung,Sonstiges)

hiermit kündige ich den Mietvertrag für mein Zimmer in der Wohnung STREETADDRESS zum 03.10.2019.

Viel Glück bei der Suche nach einem Nachmieter!

So I copy pasted the above form from a template, then tried my best to modify it for my current situation. Anyone mind advising on filling out the rest/if this is sufficient for written notice of terminating my rental contract? (I live in a room of a shared flat that my landlord also resides in, and my contract requires two months notice)

[fair talon]

❤ Danke sch:on

Anyway, yeah, that

[tropic edge]

I'm currently in Berlin and want to move somewhere cheap where I can find a room for around 350-400 euroinos. I'm going to come back to Berlin onnthe the 5th. Please help me out here

[faint plaza]

@fair talon this viel Glück bei der Suche eines Nachmieters 😂

This sounds so evil ahahaha

[fair talon]

It was in the form lol

Thought that part sounded weird

[faint plaza]

It doesn’t sound weird but evil tbh Hahahaha

[fair talon]

I mean, that wouldnt be that bad to have with this landlord. But ill leave that part out lol

[faint plaza]

Better do haha

[fair talon]

Mostly just confused on the date to put/ which wording to use

on which date to put*

I think these are the only parts I need. Still dont know whether to put the date im giving notice or the date im leaving for the first and second dates though

[fair talon]

Im still trying to figure the dates thing out if anyone's reading 😅

[warped atlas]

Hmmm

I think you’re supposed to give the last day you’re staying

Meaning, let’s say you have a two month’s notice

You give your letter here on 15 Oct

You’d say in the letter, you’re leaving at the end of Dezember

Or if it’s also okay by the landlord November

[fair talon]

Thank you. Just was trying to figure out if that was supposed to be the day im giving it or the day im leaving

That should be everything then 👌

[heady crane]

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
hiermit kündige ich, (pplease repeat your name and your birth date as well as your current address) meinen Mietvertrag in der Wohnung.... zum... (the date when the cancellation will be in effect like)

The best is to state, when you write your termination and when it should be take effect like:
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

hiermit kündige ich, (name, surname, born on.... currently residing at:...) meinen am.... (date when the contract started to get in effect) geschlossenen Mietevertrag mit Ihnen, (name, surname and residence of the landlord or the company)

Diese Kündigung wird von mir am .... ausgesprochen (which means: this is when I tell about the cancellation) und gilt laut Vertrag zum.... (which means: due to the contract that means that the termination of the contract will get into effect at the following date:...)

Important rule: state as many data as possible in such letters to avoid anything which could be misunderstood. Write your name, your birth date, your current date of residence, as well as the name of the company of your landlord down, write down when you made the contract, when you are writing this, when the termination will be getting into effect etc.
(I am sorry for the lousy English at the moment, I have two bone breaks and take some pain killers but wanted to advise you to never write sloppy cancellation... letters)

[fluid moss]

How old does one have to be to set up a doctor’s appointment on their own? My mother’s busy so I’d prefer to do it alone.

In Germany of course

[solemn bay]

I think it should be fine, but you can always just call them and ask if it's fine.

[fluid moss]

Yeah I have my Gesundsheitkarte as well

so I don‘t think I‘ll have issues

[faint plaza]

You Are definitely old enough to do it on ya own @fluid moss

Take ya Krankenkassen Karte with you and you are good to go

[warped atlas]

You can just go, Phae

Or...well, at least 18? 🤔

So they know you’re not skipping school? And parents not being negligent?

[faint plaza]

You don’t Need to be 18 for that I believe

[foggy prism]

So they know you’re not skipping school?
why would a doctor care about that, they'll happily schedule stuff in the middle of the school day for you

[solemn bay]

Yeah, I mean, as long as you're at least a teenager, I don't see any reason they would have an issue with it.

[foggy prism]

the only issue would be what happens to the bill

[solemn bay]

Although it's perhaps worth considering they might want to contact your parent to confirm anything important, depending on what happens overall.

[foggy prism]

cause presumably your parents will get that

(even if it's entirely covered by the krankenkasse they'd get a confirmation of sorts)

[solemn bay]

Well, I think there can be concerns such as legal right for a child to choose their own medical procedures, right? Or things like prescriptions. I'm not sure what the legal aspects of that are, but perhaps they will need some confirmation in those cases.

But like I said, you can always just call the doctors easily and ask on the phone about it.

[foggy prism]

but it doesn't sound like you're trying to hide sth from them so that won't be a problem I guess

What I'm not sure is whether Schweigepflicht will apply to talking to your parents

if you're not 18 yet

[vague brook]

How old does one have to be to set up a doctor’s appointment on their own? My mother’s busy so I’d prefer to do it alone.

Old enough to be "einsichtsfähig". How old that is - no one has a clue, because no one cared to gesetzlich define it with a number. :') Up to doctor to decide whether you are old enough.
As for Schweigepflicht, it applies to some extent(if you have PKV your parents will get the Rechnung), also no one will cut your tumor out without getting your parents permission because no one wants to be sued afterwards. For routine stuff it applies, depends whether the doctor decides if you are big boi enough to decide about yourself, and if yes, it comes with all the perks.
@fluid moss

law is shitty when it comes to the matter everywhere, because children 14-18 are big enough to decide themselves, on the other hand parents are responsible for them

and its all grey-area of maybe, maybe not

„nach seiner geistigen und sittlichen Reife die Bedeutung und Tragweite des Eingriffs und seiner Gestattung zu ermessen vermag“ is an awesome sentence, very beautiful, and has no fricking Inhalt whatsoever

:D

So kann ein erst 15-jähriger Patient für Routinemaßnahmen und geringfügige Eingriffe, wie zum Beispiel eine Blutabnahme, bereits über die nötige Urteilskraft verfügen. Deutlich höher liegt die Messlatte bei nicht ganz ungefährlichen Behandlungsmaßnahmen, selbst bei „alltäglichen“ Eingriffen, wie einer diagnostischen Laparoskopie. Ist der Arzt unsicher, ob der minderjährige Patient einwilligungsfähig ist oder nicht, muss er die Eltern in die therapeutische Entscheidung einbeziehen.

[fluid moss]

@vague brook @faint plaza I was just by the doctors and they didn‘t ask me for anything to do with my parents, they just asked me whether I go to school or not, even though I wrote down my birthdate

So it worked

[vague brook]

yea with a flu or whatever there should be no problem

[fluid moss]

I got some antibiotics for my throat

[vague brook]

penicillin v?

:p

[fluid moss]

yes

although i have to wait cus the pharmacy didnt have it in stock

so i gotta return at 3

[vague brook]

take em like a good boy, dont stop after you feel better

[fluid moss]

im supposed to take them 3 times a day

for 7 days

[fair talon]

Mhm. If you take them for less, any that survived would be those resistant to antibiotics, meaning it'd take even longer the next go around

[tranquil spindle]

Hallo! Im just wanting to know from the native germans or people who have gone thru marriage process with a german about the differences of engagement rings between us/de cultures and marriage in general. Thanks 😉

[heady crane]

I do not not know where you are but it would be helpful to know.

[heady crane]

I do not want to squeeze out your personal data or so, but I do not really know what you want to know. So maybe you could just ask direct questions.

[tight kelp]

she said US

but it's true that to answer that question as it is, one would have to know what the customs in the USA are, which is not something I'd just assume Europeans to know :P

[fair talon]

I mean, if someone started posting about European customs, I could make comparisons to the American ones 🤷🏻‍♂️

[warped atlas]

Well, it’s also a thing to have engagement rings as far as I have seen it in my own past relationship

But as for pricing, like, 200-300, and after that, just a wedding band

It was treated like a formality.

Which I like, but it depends on the person, I guess

[fair talon]

Well, 2-300 is a lot less than what marketing and Hallmark encourages Americans to spend on it 😅

Most expect to spend somewhere between $1000-5000 on the ring, with the average being ~$6000 (the rule of thumb being "two months salary" thanks to DeBeers marketing)

[tame forum]

Lol i thougjt it was 3 months

[tight kelp]

what the fuck

[vague brook]

2€ bubblegum ring

if she doesnt like it she can fuck off

[solemn bay]

How about $300 ring + $5000 cash instead.

[fair talon]

@tame forum Two to three months lol, hence the range. Most sensible people go with two though 😅

(Vs three. Sensible sensible people just go with a ~$300 wedding band :p )

[tight kelp]

and a 0€ engagement ring

0€ = 0$ so i'm allowed to say €

[fleet pelican]

Honestly if my partner spent 2-3 months salary on a ring I'd reconsider marrying them

Vahtis got the right idea at least you can eat the bubblegum ring

[fair talon]

Even if it was a beauty like this?
(The price is just whats expected here now, especially by the family of the person getting engaged. My mom's also gotten an even bigger one for every 10 year anniversary of her marraige 😅)

Actually kind of refreshing to learn that its different in Germany 😅

[tight kelp]

turns out the reasons for the 99% remaining the 99% are different than we thought, at least in the usa

[vague brook]

Honestly if my partner spent 2-3 months salary on a ring I'd reconsider marrying them

why not take a loan for it @fleet pelican

just so everyone can see how rich you are

[fleet pelican]

See after 10 years I can understand investing a bit more but my god

Imagine spending that much then divorcing within a year

[vague brook]

:D

[fluid moss]

i still have no clue how old youd be vahti

are you in your 30s

[vague brook]

im 30

[fluid moss]

ah

[vague brook]

almost

[fluid moss]

whens your birthday

[vague brook]

wait

its 2019 and october

ok im 30

[fluid moss]

i assume you dont celebrate your birthday anymore

[vague brook]

i do but i always ask for 18 on the cake

its just that years are melding together, i wrote 2017 on some document i had to sign a few days back :D

[fluid moss]

that makes sense

[vague brook]

yea when you get no schedule on your life(like xth year of school, or whatever) you dont even realize how quick time flies

sad life

especially if your life feels overall like a murmeltiertag

[humble bough]

re: engagement rings, it's worth noting that afaik which hand the ring is worn on is different between US and Germany? I don't have personal experience there but I've heard that. also fwiw I think pricing of the ring is something a couple should discuss between themselves once they're at that place in a relationship, regardless of whether they're from the same country or not; even in the US, not every woman is gonna want you to waste gigantic sums of money on an expensive ring, for instance, and if you're like gonna get married y'all should probably like communicate that shit.

[tight kelp]

a german told me the left hand is for the engagement ring and right hand for the wedding one. Others though told me the wedding ring can be worn on the left hand by protestants

being neither of those i considered one particular other option but it wouldn't have been visible enough to flaunt it

[humble bough]

in the US in my experience both the wedding band and the engagement ring are worn on the left hand

[tight kelp]

wut i didn't know the wedding ring was on the left

it's on the right pretty much everywhere in europe

[fleet pelican]

oh no, you'll have to get married again

[solemn bay]

Yes, they are often worn on the same finger together.

As far as I've seen.

[humble bough]

afaik it's the left in the UK too but yeah, you def wear them together on the left in the US

[solemn bay]

But I'm sure there are many variations once you get to that point.

[vague brook]

@tight kelp dont you wear wedding ring on the left hand in italy

and pretty much half of europe

:')

[tight kelp]

no 👀

well i wear it on the left just to piss off the catholics who notice

[vague brook]

internet lies then, because every source says you wear it on the left there

half of europe wears on the left, half on the right

[fair talon]

That damn "evil hand" @tight kelp :p

[exotic barn]

it's worn on the left in Germany

[foggy prism]

tbh just wear it on a necklace

[tight kelp]

i've thought of that but it can get in the way, it's easier to lose and i don't like taking it off

[foggy prism]

I should get me a necklace tho I always wore one as a kid and honestly I still feel kinda weird without one many years later

[tight kelp]

i have a thor's hammer, it's pretty nice

[fleet pelican]

But are you worthy

[tight kelp]

yes, i paid for it

[tame forum]

It doesnt get uncomfortable while sleeping? I camt imagine wearing a pretty bulky thor hammer and sleeping with it. Feels like it would be uncomfortable

[heady crane]

I bought a marriage dress for 30 Euro and the ring was 100 Euro for us both.
There is no "Germans expect..." or "Italians expect..." that is why I was asking for detailed questions.
I do not wear the ring at night while asleep, others always wear the ring and expect that the husband in spe would pay for the dress or the ring etc. etc.
I do not think there is a general rule at all.

[tight kelp]

i never said i sleep with it on lol

i do sleep with the ring on tho

but my husband doesn't

[tame forum]

M bad at assuming

[lunar garden]

guys, I need help

my current german course will persumably end at the end of this winter semester

but I don't want my studium to start at sommer semester, is there any way to not do anything for a semester so that I can start my bachelor at winter semester?

[fleet pelican]

you could always work, do an internship in your respective field

there are some charity/event organizations where you can go to support their cause temporarily

this can be anything from kid camps to going to help build houses

ideally though since I'm guessing you don't want your german to deteriorate I'd suggest staying in a dach country

[steel mauve]

Berlin

I'm going to Berlin with couple of friends and currently we are looking for a hotel to stay. Could somebody tell me where it is better to stay? Since I don't know anything about districts, near what U Bahn stations?
What are places to avoid?

[molten hearth]

Maybe SebI could help

@hardy wren

[steel mauve]

@glad whale Definitely inside the ring

Yes, mostly sightseeing + some shopping and some cafés

And I hope to practice IRL

[humble bough]

berlin's pretty safe in the grand scheme of things, so i wouldn't be too worried even if you're out late

can't help with hotels tho, never came up for me

[hardy wren]

idk anything about hotels in berlin because i live in berlin

gotta ask someone whos travelled there

[sturdy shore]

How rude is it considered if somebody where to say something in German that you do not understand or it's about a subject you're not familiar with and you asked if they know it in English?

I personally am patient with people who are native Spanish speakers who are learning English, but I don't know a lot of Spanish myself so it is frustrating in the event that I can't help them more

[tight kelp]

in most contexts it isn't considered rude. It's happened to me in the past that I asked people to explain in english if they could (for important stuff). There are some cases where it's not ideal but overall it's ok

[sturdy shore]

How many Germans actually speak English as a secondary language?

Germans/Austrians, etc.

Not sure where you're from

[tight kelp]

many. As for how many speak it well, it's debatable, but unless they're old you can expect them to explain stuff

i live in germany

[sturdy shore]

are you born there or ...

work visa?

School?

[tight kelp]

no i'm european, i don't need a visa

[sturdy shore]

I'm asking because I want to live there someday

Oh I see

[tight kelp]

but i'm not a native speaker

(otherwise i'd be yellow)

[sturdy shore]

Like I'm wondering how difficult it is for an American to move there

I read that B1+ proficiency is expected, among other things

[tight kelp]

i know of many americans who live here. I knew one personally who managed to even get double citizenship

[sturdy shore]

Okay thank you

[fair talon]

@sturdy shore Depends on how you move here too. I'm here for a Masters program taught in English, and my A1 (albeit getting better with time) German has been enough to survive here 😅

Coming here for work or studying in German would be much trickier without good German skills

But cities like Berlin and Hamburg are fairly English-friendly when it comes to day-to-day living. A bit less so in the countryside 😅

(American here btw🇺🇸)

[humble bough]

I'm also an American here doing a master's program taught in English; A2 is more than enough to get by for day-to-day things

obviously more German more better but I have former classmates who have started working in Germany with about the same level of German as me

[tight kelp]

yeah cities are generally easy to navigate with minimal german, and germany is one of those countries with many big cities, which makes many of them rather cheap in relation to the convenience they offer

[smoky hedge]

Question for those that live in Germany. Who is the best mobile provider to use when visiting germany? I am visiting in december for two weeks and I am not sure who to sign up to. I will be visiting other countries in Europe as well so I want something that I can use other places.

[vague brook]

im still using my polish mobile despite being in germany for 2 years lol

4x cheaper and reception in germany is laughable in many, many places

and mobile internet is way overpriced

[hidden cloud]

Is there any way to withdraw money from German bank accounts when I am in other parts of Europe? If it is possible, which bank has the most ATMs/affiliated ATMs in Europe?

[warped atlas]

That‘s usually not recommended, since you have to pay extra fees for it

You‘d have better chance if you go for some online banks

They‘re DKB, Comdirect, N26

ING-Diba should also be okay (not German, but still)

Otherwise, the bigger international banks like Commerzbank and Deutsche Bank would be your best bet

Not easy to find branches still, though

[hidden cloud]

Okay I'm actually asking because I would have to open a blocked account and I am finding a way to do so where I can still access the money from other parts of Europe as I travel

Is there any advice for my situation?

If this website I'm looking at is accurate, I basically only have four options - Coracle, DB, Expatrio and Fintiba

[warped atlas]

I‘d say open two accounts....

But you‘re American?

[hidden cloud]

No, I'm actually from Asia 😂

[warped atlas]

I was going to say ask the American dudes

Otherwise, if you have your own HSBC account from Asia, that might work

[hidden cloud]

Okay so you'd recommend opening a blocked account as well as an account with DKB/Comdirect/N26?

[warped atlas]

I have no idea whether they offer that service or not

[hidden cloud]

Ahhhh okay

[warped atlas]

I personally had two accounts when I was studying

One the blocked account, the other for travelling

[hidden cloud]

I see

[warped atlas]

Source: am also Asian

[hidden cloud]

I actually do have a couple of multicurrency accounts (Transferwise and Revolut), do you think those would work

[warped atlas]

Wtf

Use Transferwise already

Lol

Jeez

That‘s already everything

Hahahahaha

I never used Revolut...what‘s the advantage?

[hidden cloud]

Transferwise actually still has a fee when it comes to converting currency while Revolut does not

[warped atlas]

Revolut doesn‘t?

Wut?

How?

[hidden cloud]

@glad whale I see. Thank you!

[warped atlas]

Sounds a bit too good to be true

Even TW sounded too good to be true as well, but it‘s pretty low exchange rate fees

So still believeable

[hidden cloud]

They do offer slightly worse rates off the ones from what I Googled, but it's only a marginal difference (around a couple of Euros per thousand exchanged)

Thank you!! Thats really helpful

[warped atlas]

https://thepoorswiss.com/transferwise-vs-revolut-which-is-best/

Was reading that

Yeah, maybe bias and convenience, but I‘m keeping my TW account

Lol

Hmm, perhaps I would still try it though

The 0 fees seems a bit to juicy not to use

(On weekdays)

And Revolut is also recognized by Apple Pay

TW doesn‘t 😦

[hidden cloud]

Oh right I forgot about the weekend fees for Revolut

Those are pretty darn annoying

I'll just bring both anyway since there are limits as to how much money you can withdraw without fees from ATM

[fair talon]

Cant say anything about Revolut, but I've had a wonderful time with TW's customer service

[hidden cloud]

I do think that I would use TW to transfer money into the blocked account though

Even with the service fee factored in they seem to have the best rates

[young iron]

Hey people

So I've got a question

I've been wrestling with the Krankenversicherung companies for the last 2 weeks

So my father is German, and he is insured at AOK

He keeps telling me that there's no need for me to go to AOK and insure myself again, his insurance counts for me too

But the AOK wont give "Krankenversicherungsnachweis", which i need for my immatriculation at my Uni

I finally got them to give the file, they said they need a vollmacht from my father

However, he is insured at AOK Hessen and I will be attending the Uni in BaWü

Is there any differences between AOK Hessen and AOK BaWü?

[hardy wren]

AOK Hessen is in Hessen

and AOK BaWü is in BaWü

🤷

[young iron]

Also, if i go to a AOK in BaWü can they also give me the 'nachweis' since he is insured at Hessen?

@hardy wren Well it might seem like im asking the obvious but I mean it

[hardy wren]

idk tbh

[fair talon]

Sounds like a question for AOK tbh. They have the specifics of the account details

[warped atlas]

IMO from that story, you need to ask AOK Hessen to provide the Krankenversicherungsnachweis that is from your father

The Uni shouldn‘t care because you‘re in BaWü but insured in Hessen

Well, „shouldn‘t“

But I‘ve never heard anyone having a problem of living in adifferent Bundesland and using a different insurance

Anyway, ask AOK directly

[fair talon]

Random question: What kind of place would offer event light rentals in Germany?

My classmates are idiots and I'm getting delegated more and more shit 😅

Searching in English only pulls up a few English wedding and catering companies in the city

[fair talon]

Nvm, Licht Vermietung brought up what I needed.

[faint plaza]

Hahaha

[fair talon]

I swear to god theyre doing this intentionally

[heady crane]

@young iron if it comes to the health insurance, the place of living of the insurance owner is the thing that counts.
Example: Alfred has a health insurance and marries Bettina. Alfread is living in Hamburg and his insurance company regarding health things is the "AOK Hamburg", Bettina is included in his insurance. Bettina decided to live in Bavaria. Then the insurance company which is responsible for her problems is still the "AOK Hamburg" (an example) because the one who is insured as "main insurance holder" (in this case the husband Alfread) has his residence in Hamburg.

Of course this can get complicated when you are in different countries or when Alfred is moving himself but for your "problem" I think this explaination should be enough. ((((I changed the sentence "Bettina is not included..." into "Bettina is included..." because that was misleading. Of couse, in this scenario, Bettina is included from the moment they are married...)

[young iron]

@heady crane Thank you! That was really helpful

[heady crane]

@young iron I am glad I could help.

[young iron]

But I now need help filling my Immatriculation form in 😶

https://www.uni-heidelberg.de/md/zentral/international/2017_5_antrag_auf_immatrikulation.pdf

So this is the form.

On the first page, there is a part which goes "Ich beantrage die Einschreibung zum SoS/WS .../..., in das .... Hochschulsemester" as you can see

I filled out the first part, as WS 2019/20

But I don't know what to write on the second part

[warped atlas]

Write it 1. Hochschulsemester @young iron

If it is your first semester

My guess is, you have to do this every time 🤔 hence why you have to fill in which semester you‘re doing

[ashen mirage]

Has anyone here applied in Goethe University, Frankfurt or currently studying there?

[gritty wasp]

Guys do I have to pass an entrance test to study in a studienkolleg

if so, what is the recommended level of language?? And what subjects are in the test ?? (I want to apply for a T-kurs)

[ashen mirage]

Well recommended is B2

Subjects for t-kurs are usually chemistry, maths, physics and german

@gritty wasp

[surreal ermine]

Hallöchen, ich habe gerade einen Bafög-Bescheid bekommen und in dem Bescheid steht einmal ein Gesamtrückforderung in Höhe B und ein Rückforderungsrestbestrag in Höhe X.
Ich soll X innerhalb eines Monats bezahlen, aber X ist viel kleiner als B. Also muss ich jetzt jeden Monat X zurückbezahlen oder kommt da noch ein neuer Bescheid wie mit dem restlichen Betrag von B umgegangen werden soll?

[faint plaza]

Also eigentlich Höhe x zahlen pro Monat. B ist dann glaube ich bei dir, die komplette Menge die insgesamt über den Zeitraum gezahlt wird. Aber frag mal beim bafög Amt nach @surreal ermine

[heady crane]

@surreal ermine hast du denn bereits etwas zurückgezahlt? Ansonsten: immer dort anrufen oder am besten auch parallel schreiben damit du etwas vorzuweien hast.

[surreal ermine]

@faint plaza @heady crane Dangeschöön für die Antworten.
Also den Betrag X muss ich bald bezahlen, deshalb mache ich erstmal das, danach schreibe ich eine Email wie das dann die nächstes Monate aussieht. Aber bezahlt hab ich bisher noch nix.

[faint plaza]

Hm hört sich nach einem Plan an

[heady crane]

@surreal ermine in solchen Fällen immer dort anrufen, nachfragen und am besten verlangen, dass das Ergebnis des Telefonates dir schriftlich mitgeteilt wird. Meine Standardfloskel "Könnten Sie mir das schriftlich geben, ich habe schön öfter ein Missverständnis gehabt..."

[surreal ermine]

Ja anrufen ist aus Japan immer ein bisschen schwierig, vielleicht schreibe ich auf einfach direkt eine E-Mail, die Frau antwortet eigentlich immer ziemlich schnell

[heady crane]

@surreal ermine sorry. Dann die Email natürlich und auch trotzdem ruhig einen schriftlichen Beleg einfordern.

[mild quiver]

how much would an unemployed person be charged for public health insurance. when I leave Germany I kind of want to keep my health insurance since otherwise I'll have none, but I'll be unemployed so depending on how expensive it is it might not be worth it. for reference I'm with TK

there's also the possibility I'll move back to Germany a year after the move so keeping it would also be good for that reason

[tight kelp]

iirc it costs about 180€ per month so it might not be worth it without a job. I also don't know to what extent you'd be able to make use of it abroad

also iirc, they can cover your expenses up to a certain period while you're abroad. You should ask them about it, since this most likely varies from one Krankenkasse to another

[mild quiver]

i definitely won't be able to use it in Russia while there unless I also get travel insurance which isn't really worth it. that being said during said move I would still have to periodically leave and reenter so if I needed more non immediate things (new glasses, dental care, casual doctor checkup) I could time those with my return

€180 isn't that bad though so I'll message TK to confirm and also ask a Russian discord what their health care and costs are like to compare

thanks tho

[fleet pelican]

@glass trench ^lol

[molten flower]

braucht man English in deutschland?

[warped atlas]

Man darf Englisch in Deutschland verwenden

[tropic edge]

Soll aber nicht

Actually that's a joke stuck in my head from some radio ad. English is a + in Germany if it's needed otherwise German can get you everything you need.

Unless you're an English teacher and speak German too.

[tame forum]

idk about A+ tbh. after moving here. i realised even young poeple arent that familiar with English. i mean i guess they can understand it, but far from fluent. even though they are in pretty big cities [i guess 500000 is considered big].

and idk man it wud be an overall shitty experience coming to germany without knowing atleast some german. all road sign, shop signs, transport signs. every thing is in german

[humble bough]

the question isn't about being able to get around Germany without German, but about getting around Germany without English though?

also I'm pretty sure "a +" meant "a plus" not "A+"

[faint moon]

Don't expect Germans speaking English with you :D, especially from the older generation.

you might be lucky if you hang around with university students

[humble bough]

it's def v dependent on location

[faint moon]

well Germans can speak English in a basic level but still you are better off by speaking German obviously.

we are not like the Scandinavians lol

[humble bough]

it's definitely unlikely you'll come across anywhere where you can't get by speaking German for sure lol

[heady crane]

Many people in Germany can speak English. And if not, many people are polite and try to talk to you via hands. 🙂 Basic German language should be available by you and if this is the case, most people will think that you try to adapt and welcome you not only via language.

[humble bough]

I found reports of Germans' English both under and overexaggerated tbh

but I'm in Berlin so I had everyone being like "THEY WILL NEVER SPEAK GERMAN" lmao

[icy mist]

ive spoken to so many people in germany who came here from Syria, Afghanistan, Iran, etc and tried to speak English with the Germans before they learned German, and they told me people just looked at them like they were crazy, not understanding a single word

[tight kelp]

germans also kinda have their own opinion on how english should be pronounced so that might have been a factor

[icy mist]

their own opinion how so? @tight kelp

[tight kelp]

if you don't say app like äpp they might not understand right away if they have a very one-sided or limited knowledge of how english works

british accents might be misunderstood, especially the lesser known ones. Nowadays most of the english germans hear is american

[icy mist]

yeah idk it's odd, one of my former German teachers used to teach English at the VHS and she would attempt to translate things or concepts into English and it would be completely false

the Germans I know who speak English well are all gamers lol

[tight kelp]

they get good exposure to the language and to different accents as well :P

[robust pecan]

every native in here speaks like perfect english and so i thought every german too lol.

[tight kelp]

selection bias :P

[amber perch]

If I do 1 cefr level of German a year in the local Goethe institute I can probably almost reach b2 by the time I graduate in 4 years
That way I can probably have a better time finding a job and naturalise in 6 years

[tight kelp]

and what's your question? 😅

[amber perch]

Well, will b2 be good enough to handle living long term and making friends?

[tight kelp]

absolutely, yes

but once you live here if you keep being interested in the language and do stuff in it, you will eventually progress

also you can reach b2 in less than 4 years. The step that will take the most time will be b1 -> b2, although the one that will take the most effort will probably be a2 -> b1 according to my experience

[amber perch]

So I should probably skip some a1 and a2 courses?

Nvm the a level courses only have 4 courses
Like a11 a12 a13 a14
While the b level ones have 5 for each level
So I should be able to do it in less than 4 years

[tight kelp]

it depends entirely on what they teach. Cefr levels are conventional names for a vague set of linguistic abilities, they aren't strictly defined so everyone kinda gives its own definition of what an a1 must learn to become a2

[amber perch]

Goethe should be pretty standard right?

Their certificates should be accepted by most places I believe

[tight kelp]

i learned everything by myself so i can't tell you too much about the course way. I teach one language course though and what i can tell you is that they have some important advantages over self-learning but also important disadvantages, chief among which the fact that they take a lot of time to teach you stuff you could learn more quickly alone

yes, goethe is a good certificate

[amber perch]

I see
Thanks

[tight kelp]

i'd say depending on your willingness and resourcefulness to organise and study by yourself, previous experience in learning languages, and the immediate need for certificates, you could skip at least the a1 level

but depending on the quality of the course, a1 is the stage at which you'll learn some things that the layman had better learn in a group rather than alone, such as pronunciation. And self-learners tend to skip important stuff that seems laborious to learn or that requires collaboration with other people, and then end up being bad at conversational skills even though they're fine when reading and writing

[amber perch]

Yeah that's what I was afraid might happen

[solemn bay]

My personal recommendation is to self-learn at least A1 and A2, probably B1 too, using this server as a way to help you keep on track (e.g. asking when you're confused, getting corrections, taking advice on your progress). Of course you don't need any classes to learn a language, necessarily, but you may want to take one before you go to an exam (if you plan to take an exam), to make sure you know all the "technical" stuff.

[tight kelp]

one thing you can do if you're willing to explore is take a course at your level, see how it's structured, how the book presents the information and all, and when you're done attempt the next level by following those strategies by yourself, integrating them with your own ones.
As i said before, you'll have to find ways to integrate conversational activities into it, which are not automatic when self-learning compared to a course (but definitely doable), and you'll have to force yourself to speak aloud and get your pronunciation evaluated by someone

[solemn bay]

And for speaking: consider seeking out a language exchange group in your area, if it's available.

[tight kelp]

oh also, if your end goal is or includes certificates, plan ahead the ones you want to get because many can be obtained by just sitting the exams, but some require that you follow their course first and you don't want to do that for stuff you already know. All of them though have their own quirks, so regardless of your knowledge, you will need to prepare a bit for the individual exam in any case

(which is the reason even natives don't always get full marks at some exams. The way they test for stuff can be weird and let's just say, language proficiency isn't always all they're testing for)

[solemn bay]

Yeah. But that all said, if you want to do classes and don't mind the time and money involved, there's nothing wrong with it. 😄

But without a class and with some effort, you can get to B1 in a few months to a year.

So don't feel like you have to be limited by that longer 4 year goal.

I mean, after all, better to do 1 year to B1 and then 3 years on B2+ if you can do that. 😄

[tight kelp]

yeah just be aware that most courses are not usually enough to learn a language "efficiently", in the sense that in the same amount of time, you could reach a much higher level by integrating your own practice than by just attending the course and doing nothing inbetween lessons

[warped atlas]

Well, will b2 be good enough to handle living long term and making friends?
As a non-EU dude who has been living here in Germany for nearly 4 years, I‘d say yes and no.

Yes, you can definitely communicate with them and have a casual talk or talk about work stuff or study stuff, and you can definitely live long term.

No, you can‘t quickly understand the dialects of different Germans and also make deep friendship with them right on the spot, because of the different background (how did Abi go? How was the Ausbildung and Praktikum like? How’s the weekend or summer with parents hiking somewhere in Europe?) and misunderstood nuances („hey digga!“) more often than not, it would take A LOT of time to get into the friendship circles with local Germans. You‘d be faster integrating with other immigrants who are having the same issues as well, make friends and speak German with them

[tight kelp]

that bit about dialect varies enormously from where in germany you go to live. Dialect is basically nonexistent where I live unless you interact with very specific minorities (by which I don't necessarily mean ethnicity)

and the other bit is entirely cultural, so it's not strictly language-dependent. Can you bond with people from your own country who are several generations older or younger than you? Yes, but to a limited degree, and the same applies to people with very different backgrounds as you, such as people from a country you moved in.
That's normal, and it's not an unsurmountable hurdle: you can bond on stuff that's different from your childhood, if you and the other person are deep enough individuals to find what's common between yourselves as humans, rather than emanations of your respective cultures

[austere sapphire]

Hello everyone

Is anyone living in Germany or from Germany at the moment?

I have a question about phone numbers

[exotic barn]

just ask your question

[austere sapphire]

Is any of those cellphones a SIM card phone?

Or are they all landlines

[exotic barn]

the first one is a landline number

the second one refers to a fax machine

[austere sapphire]

Thank you

Much appreciated :)

[sick imp]

@exotic barn wow how'd you know? Do you work at the phone company?

[exotic barn]

nah I looked it up :^))

[humble bough]

And self-learners tend to skip important stuff that seems laborious to learn or that requires collaboration with other people, and then end up being bad at conversational skills even though they're fine when reading and writing
damn man I'm not even a self-learner and I do this

dat Sozialangst hits me hard

[pale saddle]

Im bad at conversational skills even without being a self-learner

[tropic edge]

So, there's this show I want to go to and it's in March. But it's already booked or something. It says on the website zurzeit nicht verfügbar. Does that mean it's over?

[tame forum]

idts

i would assume reg. still not open

[tropic edge]

Hmmm I hope

[faint plaza]

That means there are no cards left. @tropic edge

Or they don’t have online sell open yet

[tropic edge]

It said sold out on the YouTube video, but I was really hoping to get a ticket

Because they said they changed the venue

[faint plaza]

If they say it’s sold out it is sold out

[brave skiff]

hi! what are some items that you would find in an apothoke? I'm making a flyer for an apothoke for our german project, and I need 9 more items that can be found there. ty! : )

[hidden briar]

pretty much everything online Apotheken sell is also sold in a normal Apotheke https://www.docmorris.de/

[brave skiff]

Oh god I spelt it wrong I’m sorry !! Tysm for the website link!!

[rose cedar]

Ricola!

[spring veldt]

(DRINGEND): ich bin in Vietnam und eine Freundin hat mein C1 Zertifikat in Bremen für mich abgeholt. Wie sollte sie es mir am besten schicken? Wäre Deutsche Post mit Einschreiben ok? Die VN-Post ist aus meiner Erfahrung manchmal unzuverlässig und ich mache mir deswegen Sorge

[jaunty oasis]

warum schickt die es dir nicht per Email?

[molten hearth]

Ein physisches Zertifikat per Email schicken? 🤔

[jaunty oasis]

Manchmal ist eine Kopie reichend - je nach Organisation

[tight kelp]

ja, wenn eine Kopie reicht ist es am sichersten nur das digital zu schicken und das Original nächstes Mal abholen, wann du in Deutschland bist. Ansonsten gibt es viele Möglichkeiten und ich glaube, die sicherste Alternative ist die Einschreiben-Eigenhändig, aber ich weiß nicht ob das international gilt oder wie es funktioniert

[foggy prism]

eingeschrieben sollte international gehen, könnte aber teuer werden

[faint moon]

und dauert super lange

eine Cousine von Deutschland wollte auch was geschickt haben aus Vietnam

hat über ein Monat gedauert

[foggy prism]

naja, mit genug geld lässt sich das problem schon lösen

[faint moon]

und nerven

😄

[heady crane]

@spring veldt wohin soll denn das Zertifikat dann gehen bzw. wofür benötigst du es?

[spring veldt]

@heady crane das brauch ich nächstes Jahr bei der Bewerbung an deutschen Unis

Ich hab schon eine gescannte Version

Ich werde mich von Vn aus bewerben

[heady crane]

@spring veldt wenn es so heikel ist, würde ich von deiner Freundin ein paar beglaubigte Kopien anfertigen lassen. Sicher ist sicher. Vielleicht kann sie ja auch die Kopien dann an die Unis direkt schicken.

[spring veldt]

achso... das wurde mir auch schon mal empfohlen

Danke!

[warped atlas]

Is there anywhere in the renter law, that the landlord may not enter the WG unless it has been spoken about with the renters?

I know that the landlord is not allowed to enter out private space (rooms) without asking, but I can’t remember about the public area, e.g. kitchen, living room, balcony

BG: landlord is pissing us off for asking impossible standards of cleanliness that has to be fulfilled in a few days

[heady crane]

@warped atlas the so called "Besichtigungsrecht des Vermieters" does not only refer to the private spaces like bed rooms, it refers to the whole rented space. The renter has to allow the landlord to come in if

• he wants to sell the space
• he wants to control the condition of the space
• there are danger to the health imminent or to be feared to happen in the future
  Control of the immobile´s condition is only allowed about to happen every 1-2 years (!)
  The landlord has to inform the renting party when the control will be taking place two weeks before the control takes place, the control has to take place during normal hours.

The landlord is allowed to enter private spaces when there are damages to the immobile´s condition to be feared to happen in the future or if they are already happening.
(for example photos of mould in the sleeping room)
Make sure there are 1-2 witnesses there and write down a protocoll.

[warped atlas]

Thanks for the info @heady crane

I’m guessing he’s abusing the right on the second part.... “damages to the real estate condition to be feared to happen in the future”

Although... how do we as renter assure the landlord there’s no mould?

Like periodical photos?

[heady crane]

Yes, that would be an idea. I mean, you could just send him a letter, stating that the object´s condition is alright, send him a few photos of the recent condition every 6 months or so and state, that you will inform him of any mould etc. immediately. If you send this, undersigned by all of you and via "Einschreiben mit Rückschein" you should be on the safe side.

In Addition: there are test kits, which are not that expensive and should be a relief for both you and the landlord.

[lapis thunder]

hello can i get some help on applying to universities in germany munich

[hidden briar]

see what I wrote in #questions , but this channel fits the topic better

[exotic barn]

I feel like no matter where you go it's sort of a "taboo" topic, but I was sorta wondering how a person in rehab/recovery or going through a relapse would be viewed in generalized German culture? Like just sorta reflecting on my own situation it feels like (here in America) there's a lot of judgment

But I heard from someone that European culture is more progressive in that sense?

So I was curious

[foggy prism]

for drugs or alcohol you mean?

there’s definitely stigma against alcoholics and the likes, but if someone is actively trying to get better I’d say that’s generally seen in a good light

like “good for them that they’re trying to get out of it”

[exotic barn]

In my case drugs but both are pretty judged against here

Ohh that's fair

I just thought maybe talking about it in an educational sense could help me come to terms with it ig? Like learn something new

[fair talon]

I do think the rehabilitation mindset is a bit stronger in Germany (and most of Europe) than back in America. Definitely with regard to the criminal side of things at least (In the US, theres a tendency to view it as a fault of character that someone has trouble stopping, rather than an illness or medical related reason)

I can't say I know how the Germans 'feel' about it, but the structural side is definitely more forgiving/supportive

[exotic barn]

Ohhh, that's an interesting take. Here there's definitely a mindset of "your addiction is your own fault" which to a degree I agree, but it's a trap that's really hard to get out of

Like you want to change but no one thinks you can because it's your own fault and so you just don't

[tight kelp]

seems to be a pattern in some cultures

like how you can't really rehabilitate if you've been in prison before because you will hardly be able to be hired for good jobs if you've been in prison

[solemn bay]

Especially considering you can hardly get a good job if you never been to prison. 😔

[foggy prism]

I mean we have prisons too

europe isn’t the holy land of rehab ^^

alas

[tight kelp]

yeah that wasn't my point at all 👀

i'm referring to systems where you are obliged to state that you've been in prison, and that can and will be used to discriminate against you getting the job, so you're de facto forced into keeping a bad standard of living that may bring you back into crime by necessity

[exotic barn]

I guess no matter where you go it tends to be rough

[vague brook]

I feel like no matter where you go it's sort of a "taboo" topic, but I was sorta wondering how a person in rehab/recovery or going through a relapse would be viewed in generalized German culture? Like just sorta reflecting on my own situation it feels like (here in America) there's a lot of judgment

@exotic barn funfact: https://transformdrugs.org/heroin-assisted-treatment-in-switzerland-successfully-regulating-the-supply-and-use-of-a-high-risk-injectable-drug/

but yes, the stigma is still there

[heady crane]

@vague brook I would only mention it among friends. Rehab, illnesses and especially addictions are hardly ever mentioned outside of friendships, except from people who want to raise awareness for this topic in the media.

[tight kelp]

well tbf it's a rather heavy topic, you wouldn't mention it without a reason anyway

[heady crane]

that is why the original question was a bit strange for me anyway 🙂

[exotic barn]

Sorry since it is a bit of a heavy thing. I just wanted to see if I could get something positive to the topic hahah. But the study is interesting compared to the American approach

Sollen die Studenten zusätzlich zum Krankenversichering auch Pflegeversicherung zahlen?

[fair talon]

I believe it is required, if I recall the AOK guy discussing it with me.

[exotic barn]

Same, mine is AOK too. But the whole thing is a bit weird, I always heard of spending 80 euro on this stuff and not 100+

[fair talon]

Well, its cheaper if you're under the 23 years old/(number I forgot) number of semesters.
I think the long term care is considered a fee tho, so its not always included in the "insurance" price 🤷

[tame forum]

yah and plus they also hiked up the fees this year from total 90 euros to 103 euros

per month

[warped atlas]

@exotic barn I started with €83 as a 27 yo at the time, and it became as high as €92 before I left as a student 2 years later (was with TK)

I recall that the KV and PV are inclusive in that fee

The ratio, I‘m not sure

[tropic edge]

So I'm looking to buy some Vans. How, when and where should I shop?

I don't want to pay full retail price as well

[fair talon]

ebay? 🤷

Question for the chefs of the group: Im looking for recipes to try/make to impress a German lady-friend of mine. Any recommendations?

[molten hearth]

>sub food to meet le chefs

[fair talon]

No no no, I need the cooks, not the boss 👀

[molten hearth]

Oh I meant the cooks. I can invite you to a cooking discord if you like 🙂

[fair talon]

I figured so, was just making a cheesy language joke :p

I don't think Im interested enough for a whole discord. Just looking for dishes to try, don't even need recipes (I got google after all lol)

[tropic edge]

So hopefully I'm starting university next April in German. How can I give myself an advantage when it comes to studying?

I'll be doing Maschinenbau.

I was considering getting Abitur books for subjects like physics and maths, but I'm not sure if that will really translate well for university.

Any advice?

[tame forum]

@tropic edge Willst du Vorschläge/Namen der Fachbücher?

für Maschinenbau?

[tropic edge]

Ja, wäre super! Oder vielleicht einfach einen Ratschlag brauche ich.

[exotic barn]

@tropic edge Modulhandbuch lesen, da gibt es normalerweise empfolenen Literatur für jeden Fach

[heady crane]

@fair talon it depends what your cooking experiences are and what the old lady likes. I mean, there is no use in doing "Heaven and Earth" if she does not like potatoe mash 😉

But for easier stuff with beef:
Rouladen mit Rotweinsauce und Preiselbeeren
Kartoffeln, in Butter geschwenkt, mit Petersilie
as a starter:
Blattsalat mit gebratener Entenbrust und Joghurtdressing mit einem Hauch Vanille

Dessert:
Bratapfel mit Vanilleeis und Rumrosinen

[pale saddle]

in Butter geschwenkt*

[dry nacelle]

geschenkt hätt ich sie aber auch gern 😋

[heady crane]

@pale saddle aehem, wie peinlich, Ich habe es verbessert, danke für den Hinweis.

[fair talon]

Not an old lady lol, shes like 20 something 😅 @heady crane

But much appreciated 👍 I'll give those a look

[heady crane]

@fair talon okay, if you tell me more about what she likes to eat I can come up with something more appropriate for a younger woman 🙂

(I am hobby cook and doing fruit carving as a hobby)

[heady crane]

@fair talon in addition: if you want to impress her, I can give you a receipe for a Greek salad, which looks, well, I think, better than the usual one, and is easy to be made.
Here is the picture:

[warped atlas]

Just boil a Wurst

Put it in a hotdog bun

Mit Senf

[heady crane]

Sorry, I thought he wanted to impress someone.

[warped atlas]

Exactly

🤪

Seriously though, if you could make a mean Käsespätzle with geröstete Zwiebeln, I‘ll love you already

[heady crane]

That is why I asked for the taste of the lady-friend. I mean, there is no use in doing Käsespätzle, when she hates them or (epic fail) doing a Northern Eintopf when she is vegetarian.

[tame forum]

@tropic edge basically what 1111 said above. if for some reason u cant find the modulhandbuch. heres one from DUE. jus click on the course, and u will get a list of all the books that the professors recommend

https://www.uni-due.de/vdb/studiengang/148/detail

[tropic edge]

Alrighty that will be pretty good reading till university starts

[heady crane]

@fair talon Regarding the fact that your friend is younger, I changed the menu a bit:
Starter: Greek Salad as shown
Fisch:
Forelle, im Backofen gegart, mit Dillsauce und Meerettichsahne
In Butter geschwenkte Kartoffeln mit Petersilie
Fleisch: depends on whether you want to have something with chicken, beef or pig
Vegetarisch:
"Himmel und Erde" though it is very basic

Dessert:
Verschleiertes Bauernmädchen
https://www.pflanzenlust.de/das-verschleierte-bauernmadchen/

[fair talon]

Aight, thats a lot of reccomendations 😅 I'll start with the Käsespätzle and work my way down lol

Thanks a bunch!

(Also, unrelated question: Will Lidl be closed for All Saints Day tomorrow? I dont have class that day and I'm not sure if its because its a holiday)

[tame forum]

@tropic edge yep. u will find most, if not all books on either libgen, bookfi

and if both dont work, then try doing a google search

[tropic edge]

Yeah, I'll definitely be able to find course material if I look long enough online

Thanks Monk

[tame forum]

np

btw, when do u guys come to play the word games/?

on voice channel

[tropic edge]

@jaunty oasis is usually the one who orchestrates that. He really enjoys it and I play whenever I could, while he's on.

[tame forum]

ahh okk

no problem

danke

[heady crane]

@fair talon normally Lidl should not be closed. But you can surely find it out on lidl.de when you search for "meine Filiale".

[fair talon]

Ugh, Lidl and Edeka are both closed 😭

[tight kelp]

what, it's not even 18:00

[hidden briar]

Feiertag

(depending on catholic or protestant Bundesland)

NRW morgen alles zu

[pale saddle]

isnt NRW protestant?

[hidden briar]

eher nich

[tight kelp]

it has a rather high concentration of catholics afaik

[fair talon]

Well, im in Hamburg 🤷

But im guessing its for the holiday

[tame forum]

Why do they have to translate movie names lmao

[tropic edge]

Try finding a cinema with original audio viewings lol, that's a bigger nightmare

[tame forum]

I find german a beautiful language. Except when its dubbed over English. Instant cringe

[fair talon]

Thankfully, Hamburg has at least one good original audio theater (Savoy is best-voy)

Everywhere else is a nightmare of horribly outdated websites and design 😂

[tight kelp]

do german kids translate "trick or treat?" or do they say it in english?

also they rang a few minutes ago but i couldn't answer i feel so bad 😩

[hidden briar]

"süßes oder saures"

[tight kelp]

haha nice

[pale saddle]

You can also say "Süßes sonst gibt's Saures" which ig was the original phrase

[foggy prism]

note: here in switzerland they actually say it in standard german

for whatever reason

just goes to show how imported the whole thing is I guess

[tight kelp]

it's imported in germany too, as well as in italy. It's just that there it has been translated ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame forum]

The "ween" in "halloween" was oroginally "wien". Which suggests that halloween originated in Austria.

[tight kelp]

that's bs 👀

[fair talon]

Of course. Everyone knows the "ween" came from "Wienerschnitzel". As in "Hallo Wienerschnitzel c:"

[mild wren]

Has anyone here lived in Freiburg?

[foggy prism]

which one? (in my case the answer is no but there’s at least one in germany and one in switzerland)

[warm flume]

hello can anyone walk me through to help me find some unis in graz in österreich please ?

for germany i can do that easily with a website that can show me everything

[tame forum]

why is that not possible for Austria?

last time i checked, unis in austria had webpages

[tight kelp]

but there's no one website that shows you all the unis in austria

or if there is one, they don't know it

[tame forum]

https://www.studium.at/hochschulen/universitaeten/graz

in that case:
@warm flume

[warm flume]

for germany, i could use a website that shows me the requirements and everything i needed

oh thanks

[tame forum]

this is jus a list of the universities in Graz

the requirements u shud find on the unis page?

[warm flume]

yeah correct

thanks a lot big man!

[tame forum]

if u havnt done ur education in a European country, i dont think that stuff will mean a lot to u tho

[warm flume]

no i'm from morocco, so far only have the B1 certificat

[tame forum]

u shud look at the equivalent of ur studies in the austrian study system. and that only a government website can give

i guess u were asking for a DAAD equivalent of austria

like how daad shows the requirements for foreign students

[warm flume]

i have a bachelor, and i plan to head for a master

i guess it's the same as in germany

[tame forum]

yahh^

i wud bet that th requirements are close to same or the same

[foggy prism]

for a master’s it’s usually easier to get in as an international student than for a bachelor’s because they usually no longer have as strict requirements on language and previous schooling, you just need a good bachelor’s degree

at least often that’s how it goes

[heady crane]

@tight kelp just for general things about Austria:
Austria hat a rather good website for official things to search for, no matter if is about universities, local authorities, opening times, getting a visa/passport etc.
Try help.gv.at
for example a list of the universities:
https://www.oesterreich.gv.at/themen/bildung_und_neue_medien/universitaet/Seite.160302.html

[tight kelp]

i wasn't the one insterested in it, it was @warm flume

[heady crane]

@tight kelp I am sorry, my mistake.

[tight kelp]

npnp

[exotic barn]

Heii

Was geeehhhttt ihr menschis

[fair talon]

At the Lidl just now-
Cashier: "Moinsen. Eins Euro neunundfunfzig bitte."
Me: "Zwei Euro sechzig."
Cashier: "Did you want the receipt?"

Ouch

[tight kelp]

lol

btw from my point of view it's kind of absurd that they have to ask you if you want it in order to emit a receipt, instead of doing it by default

i can imagine shops like döner restaurants producing something quite close to 0€ as taxes for the state for that reason

[fair talon]

They print it by default, they just ask if you or they should be the one to toss it in the Restmüll 👀

[exotic barn]

Moinsen?

[fair talon]

Hamburg area greeting

Like "Gros Gott" in Austria

[pale saddle]

Hamburg best state

[exotic barn]

Oh great, add that on a list of a billion things I'll never learn xD

[pale saddle]

Grüß Gott*

[fair talon]

Other fun variations include "Moin" and "Moin moin"

Both of which make you sound like the seagulls from Finding Nemo

[exotic barn]

Moin moin is familiar buuuuut idk where i've heard it

[fair talon]

A Hamburger, most likely 👀

[exotic barn]

mmmm hamburger....

[fair talon]

Mhm. All under the care of the Hamburger Bürgermeister :p

The chef of the Stadt

[exotic barn]

i prefer the one with beef and salad but ok. 🙂

[fair talon]

German civil administration makes me hungry

[heady crane]

@tight kelp the law says they have to hand out a receipt to you. As they know many people do not want to keep it, they ask you if you want to have it for yourself or if they can throw it away for you.

If you stuck to the law, they should not ask you, they should give it to you. That is the law.
The customer has to get the receipt, it is his decision what to do with it.

"Moin Moin" is typically Hamburg and especially said on the coast in general and in areas where "Plattdeutsch" is spoken.

[fair talon]

Isnt Hamburg generally Hochdeutsch though?

[heady crane]

Oh, and if you really want to see something of Austrian administration language, check out the
Registrierkassenverordnung
and the Registrierkassensicherheitsverordnung
"15. Was versteht man unter Belegerteilungspflicht?
Für jeden Unternehmer besteht ab 1.1.2016 die Verpflichtung bei Barzahlungen einen Beleg zu erstellen und dem Käufer auszuhändigen. Dieser muss den Beleg entgegennehmen und bis außerhalb der Geschäftsräumlichkeiten für Zwecke der Kontrolle durch die Finanzverwaltung mitnehmen. Jeder Beleg muss folgenden Inhalt aufweisen:"

https://www.wko.at/service/steuern/Registrierkassenpflicht---FAQ.html

[fair talon]

Yeah, I think we were just pointing out it can be kind of annoying. I think California has a similar law for receipts and whatnot.

[heady crane]

Yes, it is annoying. I once bought one pepper bell für 0,49 Cent and got the receipt.

[tame forum]

FWP

[warm flume]

guys can anyone walk me through about this DSH and whatever the other things are called ? i'm kinda confused xD

is it the same for österreich ? i'm from morocco, with a management bachelor, found a uni but i heard that i should be aware of some DSH or smthing just like in germany

https://www.studium.at/studieren/universitaet-graz/betriebswirtschaft-master

found this uni

[tame forum]

DSH= langguage exam

[warm flume]

also i found this : https://studienabteilung.uni-graz.at/de/studieren/einschreibung-zulassung/mitbelegung/ and my eyes are about to go blind i wish the website had a dark mode

this goes for every master speciality sorry btw and thanks

[heady crane]

did you chose the English version?

you can also chose the dark mode.

[warm flume]

!!!!! thanks a lot !!!!!

[broken remnant]

Hello Guys, i hope you all had a great day. I have a problem concerning my previous landlord. To summurize, he forced us (my friends and me (8 people))to search for new tenants for his house before we leave even though we already told him 3 months ago that we were about to leave. Keep in mind this was a very old house with its own sets of problems... SO when we left he told us that the new tenants coming in were complaining about problems in the house, problems ranging for dirtyness to some small burnt marks on the floor. After much debate it was aggreed that the new tenants will not pay the kaution and that the landlord will keep our part of the kaution(3800Euros), we did that just to keep moving on due to our universities starting. Now after roughly 2 months he told me that we need to pay one more months of rent because the other people doesnt want to pay him. When i asked for the reason he gave me the same reason as the first time. What should i do? He already took 3800Euro with us and he is searcing for 2000 more... THe new tenants already signed the continuation contract, which means that took the responsibility of it....

please help

Is it legal what he is doing? i have a copy of the contract if anyone wants it

anyone got any idea about what i should do?

[tame forum]

do u have a proof that he kept the kaution? and do u have any proof that ur contract with him has ended?

and i dont think u shud even reply to him

you are not living in that house anymore and he has new tenants. no relation. ignore him.

[foggy prism]

keeping a part of the kaution to fix those things is completely fair. that’s literally what it’s for. the rest… doesn’t sound exactly legal, no

[heady crane]

@broken remnant try to go to a cheap legal counseling for a first recommendation.
It is alright to keep a part of the caution when damages appear. But all in all I think it is not fair what he is doing.

Btw: one recommendation for the future:
a) get everything in written form
b) do not ask after a couple of time, ask immediately
c) take photos and get witnesses, even this sometimes costs money
You can send me a copy of the contract and tell me where you live, I might be of any help
(I am no lawyer!)

[heady crane]

oh - and the next time you move out, take photos etc. together with the witness
Arrange for what will be done (like "the expert estimates the damage will be about...") and get signatures.
Do not rely on verbal arrangements and get some proof whereever possible.

do you have proof for the tenants new contract?
do you have some proof for the damages apart from his ideas? I mean, was there anyone who witnessed the damages?
Did the continuation contract state when you will be out of liability?

And again:
do not get too easily into contracts, search for legal counseling at first and whenever you are getting into trouble. It will save you time, nerves and money!

[plucky stratus]

Has anyone here lived in the US originally(was native and moved to Germany) and could explain what's it like. I'm planning to live in Germany a couple months after I get my masters in computer science. Is it hard getting computer science jobs in Germany?

[undone kestrel]

I can't really speak to what the computer science world is in Germany, I can only attest to the fact that I'm a native-born American and moved to Germany for a year.

My experience in Germany was very positive. I lived in Dresden, which had a very interesting history and really cool people. The food there was great and I got to learn a lot more German living there. You'll find that since it has so many Western amenities, you will rarely miss much in America.

I do want to clarify that I already had at least survival German by the time I moved there and had conversational ability by the time I left. This really opened up my ability to live freely there and really experience a lot that others wouldn't. Learning the language in any country goes a long away...this has become exceptionally true now that I live in China. That said, you can get by fine with English, as many people there speak English, and tech sectors definitely come with many as well.

My city had a massive fabrication plant for computer semiconductors. They may have some computer science jobs there, but can't really say much more than that. I believe they were called Global Foundries

Did you have any other more specific questions?

[broken remnant]

Okay, here is the contract

Wat, discord rip

And there was no witness whatsoever about the damages

And also, i've never met the landlord in person

The full 1 year i lived there, never once saw him

[broken remnant]

P.s the owner already tried to steal money from us last year, by saying that we should pay the wastewater management, waste management and all

I just ignored it, then he never mentioned it again

[broken remnant]

?

[fiery edge]

Nvm

If it's the villa on the hill, I've heard of this happening before too

[broken remnant]

Yea

[fiery edge]

Probably the same one

[broken remnant]

It is sonneneck 4

But we've already searched for new tenants

They are already living there

[fiery edge]

Yea something like that happened 2 years ago too. I think the owner or the landlord just makes up bs and rips people off

[broken remnant]

So what should i do?

[fiery edge]

I don't think he can legally ask you for a month's rent after you cancelled on time, and if new tenants are already living there

If you can, try contacting one of the current tenants and see if his story is true

Hes saying the current tenants don't want to pay the rent. He should be dealing with them then not with u

[broken remnant]

Exactly

Moreover, he usually send an email for these stuff, this is the first time he called and asked

[fiery edge]

Do you know or are in contact with any of the current tenants?

[broken remnant]

One of my friends is going to contact one of them soon

[fiery edge]

Ok make sure that happens

Ask whether they paid the Kaution

And whether they didn't want to pay the rent either

[broken remnant]

Okay

Sending

[fiery edge]

If his story doesn't match up to theirs, you need to seek legal counsel and report him

He's done it before and he'll keep doing it again

[broken remnant]

OkaY

So,we got 1 reply

He said he paid the rent

We will wait for a 2nd reply

[fiery edge]

What about the Kaution?

[broken remnant]

Kaution no

And the landord took out kaution

[fiery edge]

Ok then if he's just asking for the rent from u, just ignore him. (Maybe not the best advice tho, u should still check with a legal counsel)

[broken remnant]

Okay

I think i'll change my number also

Thank you

[fiery edge]

I think according to this you're still bound to the contract for the 3 months after u first cancel it

If I understood that correctly

[broken remnant]

But the people after me already stayed there for 1 months already paid their forst rent and all

[fiery edge]

Idk if I'm correct here, but according the 2nd part of section 9, you're stil bound to the contract until the end of the 3rd month since you cancelled. So if he asked you for the rent after 2 months, I think he can legally do that 🤔

[broken remnant]

I understood that another way: we should let him know 3 months before we leave otherwise we have to pay 3 more month

[fiery edge]

Need a Muttersprachler for that cause I'm not sure