#archived-culture-study-visa
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Train
No, free public WiFi is an exception
Ok thx
it's definitely a train because it says Gleis 3, Gleis is train track. The train line is probably just called R8, and the other number might be a train ID (might be useful if you leave your stuff there and need to tell someone which train it was)
it's RB not R8
oh well I just woke up readinf such small numbers is hard, especially if they aren't numbers at all
:D
yep
I have a question about something regarding german life
so basically
apparently there are a lot of Physiotherapy jobs in Germany
however I looked online and its only like 28k-34k euro a year
average salary
this seems really low
tl;dr is 28k even liveable for someone in Germany
I guess its closer to 2,945euro/month
it's very livable if that's netto
if it's brutto, then it's not much
but still livable
It also depends on where you are, since stuff like rent or the monthly expenses for food will vary a lot
But at the moment I'm monthly in the positive while earning less, and this is a household of two
So I would say it's definitely liveable if you're alone or your expenses are limited. If you must have a car for example, it's possible you would need a little more
"Das Netto-Durchschnittsentgelt pro Monat liegt 2015 je nach Veranlagung zwischen 2.193 und 2.578 Euro."
So if this 2900 is netto, then it's much more than the state's average.
Muss ich fernsehengebühren zahlen? Ich habe kein fernsehen
Ich wohne in Deutschland
Es gibt kein "Fernsehengebühren", es gibt eine allgemeine Gebühr für öffentliche Medien. Ja, jeder Haushalt muss sie zahlen.
Thats gay
That's good IMO 👍
Why?
Because public media should be free of commercial (and possibly governmental too) influences, and that can be only guaranteed if they're paid from a public source, that's separate from taxes
If someone in your household already pays for it I don't think you should pay it again
Yes, it's one payment per household. I don't know the exact rules if there's more people living together, but I'm pretty sure they all pay only once
If you have two houses, you pay twice btw
I live alone now
Then you should register (or get registered by your Stadtverwaltung) and pay it regularly
Same but still i find it stupid... i have to pay for rundfunk services that im not using
I think for me it’s included in my rent, but maybe germany works differently
plus I’m a sub-renter
so I pay someone money who pays the landlord
In Germany, you register your place of living in the city hall (or whatever). That associates you with a flat/house. This registration is lawfully a basis of you being expected to pay
Doesn't matter if it's your house, or you rent or what. If you live there, you pay
What does it even include btw. I've lived here over a year and only came across this recently
My old place I think it was already part of the rent. Because I had never heard of it
And my new place it's already being paid for
There's a complete website describing the matter, maybe you'll find it interesting: https://www.rundfunkbeitrag.de/
Informationen zum Rundfunkbeitrag von ARD, ZDF und Deutschlandradio. Hier finden Sie die Regelungen, Formulare und den Beitragsrechner.
Thanks
Hi, so what is the education in Germany like? Like, what stuff do you learn, and what is the structure of the system?
this should give you a good overview
@foggy prism weißt du ob Ausländer schweizerische Führerscheine bekommen dürfen ohne einen ausländischen Führerschein schon zu haben
das öffentliche Verkehrsmittel ist gut genug dass man keinen braucht oder
in der Schweiz? ja, ausser du willst an sehr abgelegene Orte
also es gibt keinen Bus zu jeder Berghütte :P
:P
schweizerisch hehe
aber so etwa jedes Dorf ist auf irgend eine Weise mit dem Netz verbunden
hast du vor, länger hier her zu kommen?
sagt ihr eigentlich schweizer oder schweizerisch in der Schweiz?
in welchem Kontext?
generell
die Wörter gibt’s beide
wenn alles nach Plan läuft komme ich bald zu deiner Uni
aber eher schweizer
also mit den ÖV kommst du problemlos klar, machen die meisten Studenten
super! verstanden, danke
schau dir Abos an
@alpine hollow thank you.
sparst viel geld
ja sicher
Halbtax ist vor allem fast immer zu empfehlen
das lohnt sich ab etwa drei Zugfahrten im Jahr
ist das der Name eines Abonnements für die ÖV
Sind in der Regel Öffis nicht im Studententicket drin?
das Halbtax ist ein “alle ÖV (schweizweit) zum halben Preis” Abo
oha
achso. und wer darf das Halbtax bekommen
dann nehm ich an, das schweizer Unis keine Öffis anbieten^^
jeder, das wird sogar Touristen empfohlen
musst dir nur den Swisspass holen, so ne chipkarte wo die das drauf laden
kannst du wahrscheinlich sogar online bestellen
ok werde ich
wo ziehst du denn hin?
Zürich?
okay dann willst du wahrscheinlich halbtax + zvv zone 1
oder das GA, wenn du vor hast viel herumzureisen
das ist aber teuer
also lohnt sich wirklich nur, wenn du’s auch brauchst
Zone bedeutet das gleiche wie Kreis oder
ah ok
Agglo?
hast du schon ne wohnung gefunden?
ne
das ist ja so ein bisschen der Haken an Zürich :P
suche gerade
dann viel erfolg
danke
die ETH und die Uni Zürich haben glaub ich n angebot, wo sie ausländischen Schülern bei der Wohnungsssuche helfen
da würd ich mal reinschauen
das ist nur für Masters
zumindest hab ich das auf der Internetseite gefunden. die bieten keine Wohnungen für Bachelors an
ich glaube selber anbieten nicht aber vielleicht vermitteln sie trotzdem?
eben, hat mich nicht betroffen, drum hab ich’s nicht genau angeschaut
ich glaube es gibt einfach Links zu anderen Seiten
was gehst du studieren?
Physik. aber der Plan ist nach dem ersten Jahr auch Informatik zu studieren. ein Professor sagte ich könne das tun wenn ich gute Resultate im ersten Jahr bekomme
weiß nicht das hatte mir der Professor gesagt, den ich getroffen habe
ja also an welche hochschule du gehst, solltest du schon wissen
dieser Prof arbeitet bei der ETH
also grundsätzlich macht die ETH keine nebenfächer
da hast du auch keine Zeit dafür
was man definitiv kann ist studiengänge wechseln
stimmt. weiß ich auch nicht genau, das werde ich sehen. zuerst muss ich die Prüfungen des ersten Jahres bestehen
viel Erfolg :)
wenn alles gut geht hast du mich vielleicht im 2. semester als hilfsassistent :P
das wird sehr interessant sein :D
also wenn alles perfekt läuft sogar schon im 1. aber das ist unwahrscheinlich
wovon hängt das ab
es ist theoretisch möglich, ab dem 3. Semester Hilfsassistent zu werden
aber man kann sich erst dafür anmelden, wenn man die Basisprüfung offiziell bestanden hat
die Resultate erhält man aber sehr spät
und meistens gibt es bis dann keine offenen Stellen mehr
ah ok
also es ist wirklich nur glück
ein Freund von mir wurde hier Tutor für ein Fach aus dem 5. Semester lol
in seinem 3. Semester ohne die Prüfung gemacht zu haben
keine Ahnung wie er das geschafft hat
konnte der es einfach so gut oder wie
Der war an sich ein smarter Kerl, keine Ahnung :D
das musst du ja auch noch irgendwie beweisen, dass du’s drauf hast
na ich hab vor zum Linalg zu unterrichten
das ist gemütlich
linear algebra oder
ja
aber man kann offenbar nicht so genau entscheiden, was man schlussendlich unterrichten muss
vor allem für welche studiengänge
bedeutet das dass du vielleicht einen Fach unterrichten müssen wirst in dem du nicht so sicher bist
ah ok
also von unseren Fächern könnte ich alles beibringen ausser Numerik, und sogar das wäre machbar
interessant
aber bei anderen Studiengängen weiss ich natürlich nicht, was die anders machen
du kannst dich hier direkt für den "job" bewerben hier
aber von der Theorie her geht mathe/physik meistens am tiefsten
also am gemütlichsten zu unterrichten wäre definitiv Informatik
was einfach ein einführungskurs ins programmieren war
studierst du also Informatik
ausser sie wechseln die Programmiersprache
nein
wir hatten Informatik als fach
ich mach Mathe
achso
ich versuche gerade, ein interdisziplinäres Projekt finanziert zu bekommen. Mit angewandter Physik, Elektrotechnik, Informatik und (natürlich) Kryptographie, also hust Mathe
im exotischen Ausland
😉
cool
aber das ist dann nicht mehr #archived-culture-study-visa 🙄
Just post the questions, someone might answer
@pine rampart I haven't done Studienkolleg myself but I have friends who have. why don't you ask your questions, I'll try answering some of them if I can
I have a question myself: does anyone here have Vodafone in Germany? How do I get rid of the CallYa Smartphone Special Tarif for €9,99 ? I'd rather just get 4GB internet
Instead of wasting €10 for the special
I think you should just go to a vodafone shop and ask them
i don't think there's any cheaper tarif 🤔
if you find something, do remember to tell, because I have the same problem basically
Well it's not that I'm looking for a cheaper tariff. I just want the data to be honest. Idc about the minutes/SMS , since I use WhatsApp calling all the time. So with the tariff I get 1-1,5GB internet but then I need to buy an extra 3-4GB to suffice me for the month which costs a lot in total tbh. So I'd rather do without the €10 tariff, and just pay when I want for what I want
thing is, I don't think they offer any tarif without the minuts/sms
because they know that many people don't even need them so they include them by default to justify the prices :D
Ah right. Yes I think you're right they all have the minutes. But my specific problem is with the CallYa Special. Vodafone books it automatically for me whenever I have €10 balance. I don't want that automatic booking.
call them
^call them and ask lol
Right, I think I'll do that :)
Maybe next month though. For the WM they added an extra 11GB for free 😹
So I'm okay with it for now
Noch ne Frage: how does tipping work here beim Friseur? How much does one normally tip?
I'm gonna go get a haircut today, which is surprisingly my first one in DE after being here over a year
Gotcha :)
huh that's one place I've never tipped at
by which I mean I don't think I've ever tipped someone outside the food industry, except maybe "keep the change" if it's like a single tiny coin
like if I pay 29.95 for sth I might just tell them to keep the change
don't feel obligated to tip tho
except these days I've basically switched away from cash anyway
since you can do everything with contactless in zürich
and it's just faster
yeah, germany is not as encompassing yet for cashless transactions
it's getting there
neither is anywhere else in switzerland
also when I say everything I mean "everything I need"
which is basically the Mensa at school
and the supermarket
I still carry cash around, I think last time I used it was at tue cinema?
maybe it’s slightly different in Germany but here you only tip if the service was really good
like, above expectancy
But then again It's cause the place I go to there charges less than normal , so I think its okay
like if you ask for a haircut and the hairdresser had some brilliant idea and recommends that and you love it, maybe tip for the great service
or sth
but if they’re just doing their job, idk, hairdressers are pricy as is
the one place where I’d say it’s somewhat customary to tip either way here is food delivery
Ah alright. Well like I said it'll be my first time here in Germany so I'm not sure of the prices and how it works
unless it was really slow
and then it’s usually just rounding up to the next 5 or so
regardless of the price
or if you went eating out fancy and the service was spot on you might leave a small note (as in bank :P) but idk how much, I’ve never been rich enough to afford that on my own ^^
that was always on my parents
but in general, tipping is never expected
but always appreciated
Will take note of that , thanks
also note that in some establishments, employees are not allowed to take tips and have to give them to company
but that’s more in like, hospitals and the likes I think
not in places where tipping is actually somewhat common
I worked as a nurse for a bit, though in long-term (elderly) care, not a hospital, and occasionally the people there wanted to treat you sth if you were nice to them
usually that meant like a chocolate bar or sth
which was fine
but then sometimes someone wanted to give us money
and there we had strict rules
(try to not accept it, if they insist take it and put it into a shared thingy so we can buy stuff for the whole station with it)
(like breakfast for the sunday shift)
@fiery edge I am a bit skeptical about applying to studienkolleg
how tough is it to get enrolled in studienkolleg?
Like I know that they will be selecting only a few applicants from the entrance exam
If you want to study at university in Germany (or other countries in dach I think) , you'd need to do the Studienkolleg anyway, if your high school qualifications don't match the German ones
Have you checked about your qualifications first?
My qualification matches with the German abitur
but here's the problem
If my grades don't meet up with the university req's then can I do studienkolleg?
Yeah. I'd try applying directly to university though, if you get in then you wont have to worry about Studienkolleg. My qualifications matched the German Abitur too so i didn't bother with it and I'm currently studying in uni. Though tbh Studienkolleg will help you get used to the different subjects in German, but i think if your German level is high enough it won't be too difficult without SK, and you'll get the hang of it.
To answer your initial question: it's fairly easy to get into a Studienkolleg, you'd need a minimum of B1 Level German I think, and the entrance tests aren't difficult if you study. my old roommates barely studied but still got in. If one place doesn't work out, there are still many other places you can apply to. So don't feel too pressurised cause like I said it's not too difficult to get enrolled.
The tests will just be basic stuff you've already learnt in school, since your Abitur Matches the German one
Just in a different language
In fact, everyone I learnt german with is now in Studienkolleg. So you should be fine
The difficult part is once you start SK lol
seh ich das richtig, das(?) studienkolleg ist praktisch ein Uni-Vorbereitungskurs für ausländische Studenten?
mehr oder minder
ich glaub das gibt’s bei uns einfach nicht
hier musst du einfach ne prüfung bestehen, die dich als der Matura gleichgesetzt auszeichnet
dann darfst du an die Unis
und wenn du keine Matura hast (egal ob schweizer oder ausländer) gibt’s die Passarelle
was wohl am ehesten zu vergleichen ist
z.B. wenn du ne Berufsmittelschule gemacht hast
was ist das?
aber dann doch studieren willst
also Passarelle?
dann kannst du so nen, ich glaub einjahres-aufholkurs machen
klingt nach Studienkolleg :o
Die Passerelle ist in der Schweiz eine Ergänzungsprüfung zur Berufsmatura und berechtigt zur Aufnahme an einer universitären Hochschule (Universität oder ETH) in der Schweiz. Universitäten im Ausland können die Prüfung auf freiwilliger Basis anerkennen, sind also nicht dazu verpflichtet. Die Vorbereitung auf die Passerelleprüfung kann entweder im Selbststudium oder an einer Schule mit entsprechendem Angebot durchgeführt werden
nur haben wir nicht so wirklich den "matura-test"
wir auch nicht, die Matura ist der Abschluss von einem Gymnasium
wir haben zwar abschlussprüfungen
aber die sind nur ca 50%
also du musst das letzte jahr bestehen, und deine abschlussnoten sind dann abschlussprüfung + jahresnote gemittelt
in den Fächern, wo du eine Prüfung hattest
und sonst halt einfach die letzte Zeugnisnote
und wenn du da bestanden hast, dann hast du die Matura
:o
eine von den Noten ist auch noch ne Arbeit schreiben
gleich gewichtet wie ein normales schulfach
das genaue system unterscheidet sich aber recht drastisch zwischen den Kantonen
ui :o
z.B. bei uns hatte man ein Schwerpunktfach das recht wichtig war, im Kanton Zürich dagegen setzt man den Schwerpunkt durch Wahl von Profilen, und es hat Schulen die sich speziell auf gewisse Profile spezialisiert haben
also kannst du davon ausgehen, dass ein Zürcher ein tieferes aber weniger breites Wissen am ende des Gymnasiums hat
sehr interessant
@pine rampart im Not Sure if you know this (or have done so already), but you can apply to any uni of your choice via uni-assist. They will then convert your qualifications to compare to the German Abitur and you'll be able to tell whether your grades meet the requirements (they'll show it to you quantitatively, though it takes up to 6 weeks normally)
Ah right. But uni-assist was the only option I had to find out what my grades were in the German system.
Anabin to see whether the qualifications are equivalent to the Abitur, uni-assist to get the actual Noten
Just use the bavarian equation or sth
There's an equation? Afaik there's no set conversion to it
It seems that's just specifically from a polish university to one in Mannheim
someone who did the UK A-levels can't use that
Idk the uk a lvls
But most countries use some sort of numbers
as long as they’re both linear I guess
The A-levels use letters
assuming the german one is linear inthe first place
Yes sasha
But the percentages there (UK) arent fixed either 😅 . Based on world thresholds I believe
what are the possible grades in the system this converts to?
cause entering the swiss numbers and the worst possible grade I get an 8.5 in Germany
yea you see, switzerland has 1-6 the other way round and 4 is passing
so stuff gets a bit weird with comparing
Well, it should work for most countries 🤷
CH DE
6.0 1.0
5.5 1.7
5.0 2.5
4.5 3.2
4.0 4.0
3.0 5.5
2.0 7.0
1.0 8.5
what german grade would you consider “very good”?
das sind die offiziellen Aussagen der ETH
was nach dem rechner alles von 2.1 aufwärts “sehr gut” oder besser machen würde
1-1.3 very good
1.7-2.3 good
2.7-3.3 satisfactory
3.7-4.0 passing
4.3-6.0 failed
4.1-6.0*
4- ist fail^^
nö
Tut mir für die Leute leid, die 3.9 im Abi hatten
wir haben kein 4.1 😮
nur im schnitt
noten gehen nur in .33~er schritten
also ganze noten für ein fach
^
bei uns werden die prüfungen in viertelnotenschritten vergeben
Ist auch der technische Schnitt
also .25
und dann der schnitt in tausendstel (aber effektiv auf zehntel gerundet)
ah ne sorry der endgültige schnitt wird wieder auf viertelnoten gerundet
aber zwischenstände kann man ungerundet nachschauen
How do the german grades correspond to percentages?
each grade is about 5%
Wait, the passing grade would be 80 % tho???
95-100 - 1.0
90-95 - 1.3
85-90 - 1.7
80-85 - 2.0
75-80 - 2.3
70-75 - 2.7
65-70 - 3.0
60-65 - 3.3
55-60 - 3.7
50-55 - 4.0
Oh
the actual thresholds might vary depending on exam and prof
but that's more or less the basic structure
It’s pretty much the same in czechia
So if I've got 1.3-1.7 I'm good?
yep
Phew
well
1.7-2.3 is good
1.0-1.3 is very good
depening on your definition for what is good tho :P
Like I don't really know how will the uni deduct my high school diploma
But it is around 90
you wanted to do CS anyway right
well it's not bad however you look at it, unless you're required to be the very best
Yes
so your grades shouldn't mater
Why?
i don't think i know of any cs program that has an NC
What about entrance exams?
yes
Sounds fishy to me lol
that's the hard part
it's called free education 🦅 ❌
Aussieben :^)
better do it before so you are safe
Yeah
I hope my citizenship will save me some trouble though
With the enrollment that is
Good
NC being numerus clausus?
Yes
we only have that for medicine
like at this point the medicine entrance exam is called numerus clausus by everyone
(actualyl I think music has sth different too)
ich glaub bei musik haben sie keinen NC aber trotzdem eine aufnahmeprüfung
während halt bei medizin einfach nur eine gewisse anzahl reinkommen
Ist das Studium in der Schweiz auch gebührenfrei?
nein, aber nicht sonderlich teuer
~600 Franken / Semester
was im Vergleich zu Miete und Lebenskosten verschwindend ist
Das wäre jetzt nur der Semesterbeitrag oder
ja
aber ich hab für schulmaterial nur wenig geld ausgegeben
wir hatten bisher keine obligatorischen Bücher oder so
und teure Programme wie Matlab können wir kostenlos haben
weiss nicht, was du genau damit meinst
Das Studium an der ETH Zürich ist – wie jede Ausbildung – mit Kosten verbunden. Neben Schulgeld und Semesterbeiträgen von CHF 649 fallen vor allem die Lebenshaltungskosten ins Gewicht. Jährlich ist mit einem Betrag in der Höhe von CHF 16‘000 – 26‘000 für Studien- und Lebenshaltungskosten zu rechnen.
Zb in UK bezahlt man jährlich(?) £9000 (als intl student) für das Studium
In Deutschland sind das so um die 250€ im Durchschnitt
(Nicht auf die Franken bezogen)
genauer:
580 Studiengebürhen + 70 obligatorische Beiträge (an den sportverband, die stipendienfonds und den studentenverband)
und die bawüler ignorieren :D
zur einfachen umrechnung übrigens ist ein franken ziemlich genau ein dollar
das halte ich eigentlich für "keine Gebühren". Bei mir zu Hause sind die Gebühren in Höhe von €25.000+ (nach Umrechnung)
So gesehen ist das, was wir zahlen, für euch eher ein kleines Trinkgeld
selbst wenn man als eu-ausländer in bawü studiert, ist es teilweise noch billiger
🤔
Ok das war übertrieben. Eher €15-25k
Auch nicht viel besser lol
Ja 😅
Heh, aufnahme bei Musik
Das sind nur die Studiengebühren btw. Wenn man die Lebenshaltungskosten zählt wird es noch höher
@fiery edge thanks for the answer, you lifted my hopes a bit 
I am also doing A levels
this is my last year and Idk what grades I will end up with ;-;
Oh so you're yet to receive your grades?
yeah
Are your final boards over or doing it next year?
Ah okay. I did a levels too and I know the feel. It never feels good 😅
I'm not sure in terms of A-levels, but I think you should be eligible to apply to uni with a german Note of 1-4.0(?)
Someone correct me there
I got around 2 (German Note) myself and my A-level grades weren't that great
Oh I see
grades shouldn't matter for most EU countries
unless it has an NC like medicine lel
but don't unis like TUM have certain requirements?
i imagine there might be a lot of competition there
CS
physics in general? 👀
I think it's ohne Einschränkungen for most places
I heard they only select 80 students out of 500 in studienkolleg
for at least most unis
mhh
i think i have heard of one uni with NC for physics
but forgot which
but normally an NC is not needed
interesting I thought CS in TUM would've had demanding admission requirements
since physics is pretty hard
i'm not considering bachelors in germany so i'm not very educated
@pine rampart it depends where you apply to for Studienkolleg. But tbh unless u fail, I THINK you won't need to do Studienkolleg
about the requirements
Then uni admission just depends on your German level
tja offenbar haben sich meine studiengebühren grad erhöht
rip sascha
jetzt sinds 300 mehr
Wtf um 50% erhöht
ursprünglich wollten sies um 500 erhöhen
That sounds convincing
also verdoppeln
nur in zürich?
I need to get more better at german
ETH und EPFL
welcher grund?
Yeah since you're done with your boards, just hope for the best and focus on German
But for Studienkolleg, if you still consider it. Idk where that 80/500 is, but note that there are so many places you can do it at, youre not limited to that one place. many unis offer it, apart from unis there are other institutions too
ah wart es ist jährlich
nicht pro semester
die aussage ist, dass wegen der steigenden anzahl studenten pro jahr die infrastruktur ausgebaut werden müsse etc etc
nichts konkretes
einfach halt dass die mittel knapp seien
Die zusätzlichen Einnahmen aus der Erhöhung der Studiengebühren investieren die beiden ETH mehrheitlich in die Lehre. Damit kann das hochstehende Unterrichtsniveau weiter verbessert werden. Die Schweizer Wirtschaft zeigt einen grossen Bedarf an Absolventinnen und Absolventen der Ingenieur- und Naturwissenschaften. In den letzten zehn Jahren stiegen die Studierendenzahlen an den beiden ETH um rund 60 Prozent und damit weit stärker als die in den ETH-Bereich investierten Mittel des Bundes. Das ist zwar positiv zu bewerten, stellt die beiden Hochschulen aber vor grosse Herausforderungen. Damit ein gutes Betreuungsverhältnis gewährleistet und die erforderliche Infrastruktur bereitgestellt werden kann, sind in Zeiten knapper werdender finanzieller Ressourcen und nach wie vor zunehmender Studierendenzahlen zusätzliche Mittel im ETH-Bereich unverzichtbar. Zugleich unternehmen die beiden Hochschulen weiterhin grosse Anstrengungen, um die Lehre zu optimieren und Innovationen in die Ausbildung einfliessen zu lassen, wie z.B. Onlinekurse, MOOCs und «Flipped Classrooms».
I imagine master's degree admissions are not as easy as bachelor's though, right?
they are pretty much the same
pass the requirements and you are done
well, the requirements are more difficult tho
do they only want your transcript or also check your thesis, internships etc
they want a valid degree in your field
no minimum GPA?
usually no
Doch
that's relieving to hear lol
i still think some unis might have tougher admission rules though
A friend of mine couldn't join a master's program here because his GPA wasn't good enough
But I guess it depends on the program/uni
that's why i said usually no
Instead he was offered admission at a higher semester for the bachelor's degree of the same program
But I think he was accepted elsewhere for master's
that seems weird
usually there's only an NC if more people apply than there are slots
if there are fewer people applying, it doesn't matter
for example my master's program has 60 slots per semester
and it didn't get filled
I'd trust you on it though,being a native
so they took anyone applying who fulfilled the requirement
it can be different for some others
but that's what i have heard about some
for masters assumign germany works like switzerland, ti’ll be like, just pass your bachelors and you can go to the “normal” masters, but there may be special requirements for specialized/niche ones
well it depends where the place is compared to your location, if you're near a town centre or far away, whether there's lots of traffic... I don't see what would change on a country basis
What are some good design schools unterm Dach?
I'll Google it obv but just want to know if you guys know any just by reputation
sry, not that i heard og
Universität der Künste in Berlin
Thanks I've checked them out already
I have another question: is it possible for a foreign student doing their bachelor's to transfer their credits and start studying here? Either from the same semester back home or maybe 1 lower
Is it possible in general?
Das sollte möglich sein
Aus Indien. Ich wohne und studiere aber in DE😅
Innerhalb Indiens ist leider kein "Transfer" möglich
Ich Frage für nen Freund
within european universities it's generally possible, since the credit system is in common
But not sure about internationally yea?
i'd say it depends on the target university
My friend was gonna write to the unis but is just waiting on a Couple of things first
So just wanted to know what it's generally like here before he does that
if it's not explicitly disallowed by law in the target country, the university probably has the last say as to whether they'll allow it and if so how to equate the credits to their own ones
it may be possible but it’ll depend a lot on the universities and courses involved
in the end the only way to know is to talk directly to the target uni
Yeah that was the plan anyway 😅 thanks
Do you know any good design school in Switzerland? @foggy prism
no
Aite
you will never be able to transfer all credits tho
I think that should be fine
as a baseline always expect to start at zero
@fiery edge I think I'm in the same boat as you. You should also look into Weißensee Kunsthochschule
does anyone here go to UdK or weißensee?
Are prepaid SIM cards with data sold at Köln/Bonn Flughafen?
They should be but I wanted to make sure
For sure
But in germany you need to register your SIM card online
So you got to send them a picture from your ID
And join a video call to register a card
New rules cuz of the refugees
Also I heard there was a „youth hotspots“ app that finds free WiFi, but for some reason I can’t find it on the play store
Cant help you with that sadly...how long are you staying in germany
Two weeks, but I need Internet to use the transportation app
Ok I found the apk thanks
Is it true that the Bundesliga is not really that popular in Germany?
No
Okay I deleted my question earlier because it seemed really stupid
But I'll ask again: do all foreign embassies in Germany have German speakers?
Because I went on one website but there was no option for German language
So now I have my doubts 😅
Is putlocker illegal in Germany?
its never the uploading sites themselves that are illegal
but the content you up- or download
streaming is downloading, pretty much
^that helps me understand thing so much more
I mean it’s not the same process as downloading
but you’re still downloading the data
temporarily
you’re just not storing it
is it the same from a legal standpoint though?
Are there day-trip/weekly unlimited trip tickets for the S-Bahn or buses?
Or are there cashless alternatives like CharlieCards in Boston or octopus/Oyster cards in hk/uk
You can usually buy a day-trip ticket which allows you to take as many buses, trams and trains etc in that specific city/region as possible, but I don't think I've seen weekly tickets, at least not in my region. Only monthly ones.
I see thx
Yup i saw weekly tickets
There is an option 'zeit' tickets so you can choose daily/weekly/monthly etc
So if I buy a weekly ticket in Köln, can I only use it in Köln s-bahns, or can I use it in other cities‘ too
It should only be within Köln right?
Hmm you can buy a ticket from Köln for another city
So you can use it for all places inbetween
Brauchst du nicht lol
Oh the card shows the area I can use it in
Wait ill show you a picture in a sec
there are various railway companies in Germany even within the same Bundesland. Usually they allow you to travel within their area and those that allow you further, if at all available, cost extra.
I cant find the picture but they got something called waben
does germany not have a “day pass for all public transport” thing?
that’s like valid everywhere
Yes
yes it does or yes it doens’t
How you mean everywhere
Idk never heard of it
like switzerland has a bunch of regional companies too
but you can buy a Tageskarte
and that’s just the entirety of switzerland
in fact I don’t think there’s such a thing as local tageskarten here
at least not where I live
there are for the various tram nets I guess
does germany not have federal railways of some sort?
like I assumed Deutsche Bahn would be the pan-german train company
its not the same anymore
Good Morning , Guten Morgen
apologies if i interupted your chat
so if you buy a ticket from DB it’s not valid on other companies’ lines?
@foggy prism it is
But you cant go from münchen to hamburg haha
and does DB have day-fare tickets?
But you cant go from münchen to hamburg
how so? there’s a train from my town to hamburg :P
Maybe never searched for those tickets
and that’s farther than münchen
@foggy prism if you book in advance you can get cheap tickets
like munich to hamburg for 29 euros
cheap tickets is in no way what I was asking about
yes you mean can one travel via different train providers using DB ticket
I’m asking if there’s no such thing as a ticket where you can, for the entire day/week/month/year hop onto any public transport ever
as long as you stay within the country
Yes there is an annual pass i think worth 6 grands where one can use that in whole of Germany
hm so at least you have that
costs 3 times as much as here, but that makes sense
germany is a bit bigger
^^
i think with that 6 grands one can also travel with ICE
first class is 10 grands
and there is a day ticket for whole of Germany as well but I am not sure if one can travel on ICE with that ticket
why is ice special?
Inter city express
fast train
Cost more and got restaurants
the ones that go to switzerland operate like normal trains here
e.g. 18:07 every day there’s an ICE going Zürich-Chur instead of a regular swiss IC
same price, same line, same speed
(it’s the last segment on the Hamburg-Chur line)
I think swiss trains are more expensive?
maybe? all our IC have restaurants; I think the IR too actually
here you only pay for the line
not for which trains you take
whether I go Zürich-Chur with the IC (fast, comfy) or the IR (slow, stops everywhere, is a pain) costs the same
and as long as I stuck to the regular line I could also take several S-Bahnen in a chain or sth
with changing trains
but if I made a detour I’d have to pay more
@foggy prism how much is one day pass (unlimited travel) whole of Swiss
2nd class 75 Francs and apparently you need to have a half-fare ticket for it to be valid
but everyone has that
cause it’s just a good deal
that’s 65 euro
assuming you already have a half-fare ticket then iirc Zürich-Chur (abotu 1h15) costs 22 Francs
for a single ticket
lemme check sth more extreme
thats much cheaper than here
here trains are not thta great
toilets hardly work
and cost a fortune
amazing
4 hours travel from London may cost above 60 pounds same day ticket you are looking at 200 pounds plus
yea isn’t travelling in england like… only do it at 2am cause then you can actually afford it
not really
one can get cheap tickets but if youre lucky
i got network rail card gives me 30 percent off travel but there are some terms and conditions
I was in england only for a very short time and didn’t stray far from london (was at a conference a bit south of london, maybe 30 minutes by night train from whichever airport I landed)
I don’t remember that being very expensive
but I do remember that being annoying
cause every stop
the train lady
would say
the same thing
over and over
again
and again
listing every stop
that’s to come
trains here will at best give a little greeting jingle and announce the next stop
unfortunately trains are not very clean too
you’re supposed to be smart enough to be on the right train
@whole pecan https://www.vrsinfo.de/aktuelles/aktuelle-ticketinformationen/schoeneferienticket-nrw.html
Perfect for your trip
If you are 20 or younger lol
Oh
So are there any tourist passes for public transportation
Or are there only day-passes
Im not in nrw but i can check at my bahnhof where i live
So if its here must be there too lol
a question for EU citizens studying Studienkolleg or a preparatory language course in Germany:
where are you from and did your country cover your insurance?
@exotic barn I believe EHIC card will be accepted for emergency treatment but not for casual checks
hope this helps
i just went there and there are complication so i wanted to see how it is in other countries
@bronze garnet i wanted to know if you had to pay for the insurance or if the country covers it (its free for students but apparently not for all cases here in czechia)
mhh
"mhh"? 👀
looks like you have to get a private insurance during Studienkolleg
@exotic barn you qould have to pary
since it doesn't count as studying
pay*
once you are a proper student your foreign insurer can work again
or you get a german insurance
you probably can ask your future uni for help for a suitable insurance during Studienkolleg
Btw Lutschi is a bad word in Punjabi language ( one of the indian languages)
mhh, it could also work if you take an extra insurance for outside czechia, if they offer it, but not sure on the limits on it
i don't think i could take an "auslandsverischerung" for one year with my insurer
you better be prepared to get a private insurance for the time during Studienkolleg
looks like ill have to get an insurance for people with no income
try asking your uni what insurance they can recommend for you
so you won't pay too much
i will but i have to see first if i can get an insurance here
would be easier if you were a proper student already :(
yeah, i wish i could be :<
I've seen some private insurance for studienkolleg time for about 30€ per month
not sure if they are good tho
@alpine hollow do you know websites to compare private insurance? or check24 is the only one?
well, i just need some insurance, i rarely get sick
Just don't get sick at all and you won't need insurance.
I will, they won’t let me study without it
How well do germans understand each other's dialects as well as swiss german and austrian german
Depends on the dialect. Swiss German is harder than Austrian German is harder than Saxon.
In my opinion.
job interview or newspaper interview?
in job interviews, swiss german is considered inappropriate
here in switzerland
Almost everyone speaks Hochdeutsch.
the situation here in switzerland is that there are quite a few people who are not comfortable speaking standard german btw
nearly everyone can
and understanding shouldn’t be a problem for anyone
but to many it’s clearly a foreign language here
especially older people I find
and young children
but yes in general
the dialect speaker will accomodate for the non-dialect speaker
if they can
and have to
do you learn the "standard" version as well as your own in school
like learning german twice
the dialect is just the native language
what everyone speaks around you
and therefore generally the language of best command
it’s not taught in school in any way
and generally even forbidden from classrooms
at least while talking to the teacher
school is held in standard german but at no point is it properly “taught”
you’re just expected to have picked it up enough from TV and such that you acn participate
wow
I mean I’ve never experienced anyone falling behind because of that who was a native of swiss german already
but I hate it
that you have to speak stanard german?
it’s certainly part of the reason swiss people almost universally dislike standard german
not quite no
just the way it’s handled in schools
Swiss German is pretty difficult to understand, at least when you are used to Standard German
Austrian German is alright
when you say austrian german
do you mean the “basically standard german with some weak influence” that you hear most commonly these days
or proper thick accents
http://www.argealp.org/atlas/data/generationen.html see here for some examples
especially on the syntax tab
Well, the only Austrian German I've been exposed to was down in Kärnten, close to the Slovenian border
So when all the bayern players do interviews, it's all in hochdeutsch
Used to spend my summers there
I’ve never met someone from there who spoke anything I wouldn’t just call standard german
Alright, weak influence it is then. Though I'd say the older people had a thicker accent
But isn't it weird that people just know one kind of german after time
more like how it happends
I mean how it happens is:
- Schools teach a unified standard and enforce it in classrooms
- The standard is considered more prestigous and some parents may choose to avoid their dialect around their kids cause they buy into the whole prestige bullshit and don’t see the advantages of bilingualism
- People move around, forcing communication to be held more commonly in some lingua franca (ie the standard) than in the local language
3 is probably the most important point for german
but in some region definitely also 2
and 1 is just a supporting factor
ohhh so it's the dialect version you have to pick up
then it makes a little bit more sense
not sure what that is supposed to mean
you said that you are taught standard german in school
if nobody teach you, you just have to "magically understand it" by picking it up by idk living?
I mean that’s literally how native languages work
you’re fluent in your native language before going to school
well if everyone outside of school and official stuff speaks that dialect, of course you will pick it up simply by being
and like sascha said, you will be exposed to it for 5-7 years before even starting school
you don’t need classes to speak your native languages, most of school is spent on literacy, style and such things
and not on “how to speak”
yea but you are not fluent in the dialect of your language across 10 towns
you aren’t but 10 towns across is likely to not be a big enough difference to impede understanding
but yea
if you move there as an adult
then you’re gonna ahve to
- luck out and see that people there still understand you
- speak the standard
or 3) learn their dialect
and 2 is the path of least effort
so most people go with 2 over 3
When people move, they often learn a new dialect to fit in
so now you are saying that you automatically know hochdeutch and your dialect
I mean you basically do if you go to school
and grow up in an area where there’s a dialect spoken by parents and/or peers
you are acting like standard german and the dialect are wildly different languages
tbh it works even if they were
school would have to be structured a bit differently
but for all intents and purposes we can lay out the following two things:
thats why i started the question by asking if germans understood their dialects well
- if you didn’t move around as a child, you’ll be fluent in your dialect by the time you enter school, probably even so if you did move and your parents speak it
- by the time you complete school, you’re fluent in standard german
well, of course you will have a base understanding of all the dialects, since the dialects are just variations of the standard
the problem then is merely
since the dialects are just variations of the standard
hey now swiss german diverged away since the times of middle high german or earlier
the only difference is pronunciation and use of unique words/changing of certain words that exist in standard
that’s way before the standard was established
if there was no problem, why would everyone have to learn hochdeutsch
that’s a good question and I believe it would work fine if no one did
interesting
the reality is merely that they do
and because they do they don’t spend time learning to understand other dialects
and thus are bad at it
To make it easier for us learners 
it's easier if everyone learns one standardised form of a language, rather than all people having to learn all the accents to understand everything 100% imo
it certainly is easier
but I don0t think it is strictly necessary
however, without it I doubt I could readily communicate with someone from northern germany
but now you are admitting that the dialects are so different it's almost like another language
this is a little confusing
there’s a continuum
it’s a big area
you can go several hundred kilometers without problems
I mean yeah, see, I am from Niedersachsen
And I think I'd have quite a problem understanding Swiss German
if you’re somewhere in the middle you might understand everyone
Probably
with maybe a few hours of practice
if you’re at one end of the spectrum however
it’s gonna be hard to understand people from the other end
I can’t understand platt
and I doubt a native speaker of platt can understand me
I can barely understand that either despite being Northern though 😅
(platt: northernmost dialects; low german)
(me: swiss german; about as south as it gets; high german)
swiss german is not high german
high in the dialect classification scheme, not as in standard
alright alright
We have a lot of low German in my area.
i was gonna protest lol
i've never seen high german being used in this context
all the Upper dialects are pretty readily mutually intelligible with a bit of practice
The High German languages are marked by the High German consonant shift, separating them from Low German and Low Franconian (Dutch) within the continental West Germanic dialect continuum.
it’s all the dialects where you have stuff like Zeit instead of Tide
or das instead of dat
The High German languages or High German dialects (German: hochdeutsche Mundarten) comprise the varieties of German spoken south of the Benrath and Uerdingen isoglosses in central and southern Germany, Austria, Liechtenstein, Switzerland, and Luxembourg, as well as in neighbo...
where do you live?
hannover, the city that apparently has the purest form of standard german
then I doubt you actually speak the local dialect :P
aren’t dialects basically extinct in that area
there is no local dialect since our local dialect = standard german
no one speaks actual dialects here anymore
standard german is a high german “dialect”
🤔
is it also true that it's negative if you can't speak hochdeutsch
As a technical term, the "high" in High German is a geographical reference to the group of dialects that forms "High German" (i.e. "Highland" German), out of which developed Standard German, Yiddish and Luxembourgish.
it is very bad
you won’t get a job
basically
but the only way you’ll manage that is if you skipped the entirety of school somehow
no I mean it’s just that the ability to speak standard german, and thus be literate
is one of the most basic things you’ll get from school
even if you sleep through everything else
a basic command over standard german is expected to pass any sort of schooling
so if you don’t speak it you weren’t in school
and since not going to school is illegal…
well what were you doing during your youth?
א געזונטן גיט מען, און אַ קראַנקן פֿרעגט מען
Die Kranken fragt man, den Gesunden gibt man. (auf jiddisch)
schade kann ich die Hebräische Schrift nicht lernen
ich hatte es schon lange mal vor, damit ich Yiddisch lesen kann wenn ich's sehe
aber hab mir nie die Mühe gemacht es zu lernen
wenn man sich quälen will dann soll man Hebräisch oder Arabisch lernen.
Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind;
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm,
Er faßt ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.
Mein Sohn, was birgst du so bang dein Gesicht? -
Siehst Vater, du den Erlkönig nicht?
Den Erlenkönig mit Kron und Schweif? -
Mein Sohn, es ist ein Nebelstreif. -
»Du liebes Kind, komm, geh mit mir!
Gar schöne Spiele spiel ich mit dir;
Manch bunte Blumen sind an dem Strand,
Meine Mutter hat manch gülden Gewand.«
Mein Vater, mein Vater, und hörest du nicht,
Was Erlenkönig mir leise verspricht? -
Sei ruhig, bleibe ruhig, mein Kind;
In dürren Blättern säuselt der Wind. -
»Willst, feiner Knabe, du mit mir gehn?
Meine Töchter sollen dich warten schön;
Meine Töchter führen den nächtlichen Reihn
Und wiegen und tanzen und singen dich ein.«
Mein Vater, mein Vater, und siehst du nicht dort
Erlkönigs Töchter am düstern Ort? -
Mein Sohn, mein Sohn, ich seh es genau:
Es scheinen die alten Weiden so grau. -
»Ich liebe dich, mich reizt deine schöne Gestalt;
Und bist du nicht willig, so brauch ich Gewalt.«
Mein Vater, mein Vater, jetzt faßt er mich an!
Erlkönig hat mir ein Leids getan! -
Dem Vater grauset's, er reitet geschwind,
Er hält in den Armen das ächzende Kind,
Erreicht den Hof mit Mühe und Not;
In seinen Armen das Kind war tot.
The feels 😦
ach ja der Erlkönig
da gibt‘s viele gute renditionen von
eins von meinen Lieblingsgedichten aber ich glaub ich mag Poe’s Raven lieber
zeig mir mal einer seiner Gedichte
ne ne ich meinte The Raven
von Poe
das lange
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS91p-vmSf0 bez Erkönig ich liebe die version hier
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einfach auch wegen der Grafik
Ja XD
wir mussten in der 8. oder 9. klasse diese ballade auswending lernen und ich habe die damals gehasst, mittlerweile finde ich sie aber gut http://www.balladen.de/web/sites/balladen_gedichte/autoren.php?b05=7&b16=54
Balladen.de ~ Annette von Droste-Hülshoff ~ Die Vergeltung ~ Deutsche Balladen und Gedichte - nach Autoren und Dichtern sortiert ~
Idk if anyone remembers me, but I'm finally in Germany, taking a C1 course, and have had my application sent through uni-assist 😃 very relieved. Has anybody here applied to uni marburg (bachelor program through uni assist)? I want to figure out how long I should expect to wait for a response from the University now that my application has been forwarded. If it helps, I applied for bsc in informatik. Can't find this info anywhere online, and thought I could try to ask here
Trying to get my residency application through as soon as possible. Should i respect a response within three weeks?
(from the uni)
Don't know how it is specifically with that uni, but it shouldn't take long to get a response once uni-assist already forwarded it. Got some replies within a few day. Max couple weeks. Within 3 weeks is definitely possible. Though I guess it does depend on how many applications they receive too
Yeah, that makes sense-- thanks
Question regarding Mülltrennung
I just received a packet that's paper on the outside, but lined with bubble wrap on the inside
Does that go in the yellow bags?
idk what a yellow bag is but unless you can take off the wrap, put it in the general trash
