#archived-culture-study-visa | German Learning and Discussion | Page 8

brisk lotus Mar 26, 2018, 1:32 PM

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You should be okay then

obtuse grove Mar 27, 2018, 8:56 AM

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oi m8s, so I gotta catch a train tomorrow at 8:44. Thing is, my Bayern-Ticket is only valid after 9 am, so 16 minutes after I'm on the train. Should I just try to avoid the ticket taker until it's valid or bite the bullet and get the 6 euro ticket that will last me until 9.

tight kelp Mar 27, 2018, 9:02 AM

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I'd just ninja it. They'd probably let it slip for something so small. But then again you probably shouldn't accept this kind of advice from strangers on the internet since you're the one who'd pay the fine if I'm wrong :P

obtuse grove Mar 27, 2018, 9:10 AM

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ack I'll probably just bite the bullet. It's conflicting for me bc I know I can play the dumb American card.

tight kelp Mar 27, 2018, 9:12 AM

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but seriously there's a good chance you won't even meet them for 16m

obtuse grove Mar 27, 2018, 9:25 AM

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you're probably right. When I was on the Meridian from München to Slazburg they didn't check until we were in Rosenburg.

surreal ermine Mar 29, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Moin alle zusammen! Also ich ziehe hoffentlich bald aus, weiß aber nicht so wirklich was ich zu tun habe. Also ich muss mich ummelden und darauf achten, dass die neue Wohnung nicht mega Kacke ist. Und sonst so ;;? Hilfe? Bitte?

chilly narwhal Mar 29, 2018, 8:49 AM

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🤔

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Ich weiß nicht, ob das möglich ist, aber geh zur Post und sag Bescheid, dass die Adresse geändert worden ist

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du musst dann wsl zu einigen Ämtern gehen und deine Adresse ändern lassen

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sowie Arbeitgeber, Bank, Krankenkasse bescheid geben

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oder sonstwen

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Deine Wohnung muss nur "besenrein" hinterlassen werden, du musst auch keine Wände streichen, soweit ich es von meinem Vermieter richtig verstanden habe

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und frag genau nach bei der neuen wohnung wegen schimmelbefall oder rissen in den wänden, falls es ein altbau ist

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und probier ruhig mal die klospülung aus

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kleiner tipp 😮

surreal ermine Mar 29, 2018, 9:15 AM

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Danke, ich werd drauf achten, dass das Klo funktioniert 😂👍

humble kindle Mar 29, 2018, 9:16 AM

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🤔

fallen notch Mar 29, 2018, 9:41 AM

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drauf is darauf?

open dome Mar 29, 2018, 9:45 AM

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ja
in Umgangssprache

chilly narwhal Mar 29, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Emi wär ja doof wenn das klo nicht funktioniert ^(

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:^(

exotic barn Mar 30, 2018, 2:30 PM

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ich habe aber keinen Vertrag. Was nun?

brisk lotus Mar 30, 2018, 8:49 PM

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🤔

exotic barn Mar 30, 2018, 10:39 PM

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📎 Tdv86gsBQ5k.jpg

open dome Mar 30, 2018, 11:29 PM

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Studis aaargh

viral stratus Mar 31, 2018, 12:59 AM

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Okay, lol, is Studis the new “hip” gender neutral alternative for Studenten, when you don’t want to use Studierende?

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oh.. wait, they use Studenten in the title though.

exotic barn Mar 31, 2018, 10:04 AM

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🤷

tight kelp Mar 31, 2018, 10:53 AM

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probably just an abbreviation

silent pilot Mar 31, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Auszubildende -> Azubis
Studierende -> Studis

open dome Mar 31, 2018, 1:15 PM

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It's a horrendous diminutive imo
But it's probably supposed to just a short form

whole pecan Mar 31, 2018, 8:38 PM

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What is people’s opinion on Heidelberg uni?

violet quail Apr 1, 2018, 12:16 AM

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reeee

small wagon Apr 1, 2018, 12:47 AM

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April Fools

exotic barn Apr 1, 2018, 12:51 AM

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REEeeeeeeeEEEEEEeeee

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reeeeeee

proud marsh Apr 1, 2018, 1:10 AM

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reeeeee

exotic barn Apr 1, 2018, 1:11 AM

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GWjiangPepeThumb

whole pecan Apr 1, 2018, 1:27 AM

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📎 image.jpg

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I love /r/polandball now

small wagon Apr 1, 2018, 1:31 AM

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Please don't post that.

whole pecan Apr 1, 2018, 1:32 AM

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Oops sorry

exotic barn Apr 1, 2018, 1:55 AM

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📎 unknown.png

whole pecan Apr 1, 2018, 2:04 AM

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Wohnen vs leben: is there a difference?

smoky mica Apr 1, 2018, 2:14 AM

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I think the distinction lies in living (residing) or living (as an experience)

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Shit which channel is this

whole pecan Apr 1, 2018, 2:15 AM

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Hmm ok

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I think this is general

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📎 image.png

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The statue was smaller than I hoped

restive gorge Apr 1, 2018, 3:12 AM

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is it ok to ask how to say happy april foobls

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and hello everyone you are loved (not joke)

whole pecan Apr 1, 2018, 3:26 AM

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Selbstverständlich!

exotic barn Apr 1, 2018, 5:07 AM

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this is not general

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this is leben-unterm-dach

devout spruce Apr 1, 2018, 5:35 AM

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well i picked a good time

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to join

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Aprilsherz Tag?

exotic barn Apr 1, 2018, 5:36 AM

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Guys, this is not the general channel, go somewhere else pls

devout spruce Apr 1, 2018, 5:36 AM

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facepalm

exotic barn Apr 1, 2018, 5:36 AM

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This one is for questions about DACH

lament pier Apr 1, 2018, 6:08 AM

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who the fuck did this

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i know why but

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w h om s t

severe compass Apr 1, 2018, 6:14 AM

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How many people did we lose

compact slate Apr 1, 2018, 6:30 AM

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Not enough

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:03 AM

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Guys

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Wtf?

rose cedar Apr 1, 2018, 8:03 AM

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what?

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:03 AM

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Alles ist reeee

rose cedar Apr 1, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Wie meinst du alles ist reeee?

open dome Apr 1, 2018, 8:04 AM

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?

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Der Tag der Dummen

open dome Apr 1, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Wer ist dumm?

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:04 AM

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Ich

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Trotzdem muss ich studieren

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Ich wollte eine Frage stellen, aber....jetzt ist alles verkackt

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.....

tight kelp Apr 1, 2018, 8:06 AM

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Du darfst trotzdem fragen

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:07 AM

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Dafür muss ich ein Foto schicken

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Es gibt kein Media mehr

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Kann ich dir in Nachrichten?

rose cedar Apr 1, 2018, 8:08 AM

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#archived-media

open dome Apr 1, 2018, 8:08 AM

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Das hier ist leben unterm ~~DACH~~ der deutschen Datenkrake

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:08 AM

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Ich habe gepostet, ist es ein Fehler?

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Mann musste mit „en“ schreiben

open dome Apr 1, 2018, 8:09 AM

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Ja

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:09 AM

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Herzlichen Dank

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Wieso habt ihr so viele Russiche Nicknames?

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Ist diese Sprache jetzt im Trend?

open dome Apr 1, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Ich will das lernen

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Und irgendwer hatte ein paar leuten ihre namen in kyrillisch gegeben, deswegen heißen hier viele so

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:20 AM

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Ich kann dir damit helfen

open dome Apr 1, 2018, 8:26 AM

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:) danke
Ich muss aber erstmal anfangen
Wir können russisch in der uni machen, aber es ist zwei mal die woche

gaunt root Apr 1, 2018, 8:40 AM

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egal, schreib mir, sobald du irgendwelche Frage hast

whole pecan Apr 3, 2018, 11:34 PM

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Hi

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This may be a stupid question, but im worried for my friend

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He's supposed to be going to Schleswig-Holstein in the summer for a year on an exchange program

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But his german is basically shit, he hasnt even learned cases yet

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Would he fare very well? He refuses to listen

open dome Apr 3, 2018, 11:38 PM

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idk
most young germans know english
in schleswig holstein probably the older ones too
what kind of exchange program?

whole pecan Apr 3, 2018, 11:40 PM

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It is an English program

open dome Apr 3, 2018, 11:41 PM

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but what kind, what does he do there?
go to school?

whole pecan Apr 3, 2018, 11:41 PM

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Yeah

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And live with a host family

open dome Apr 3, 2018, 11:46 PM

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get him to study some more
ppl generally speak some level of english
dunno how the ppl there are like in school, how open and such

viral stratus Apr 4, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Schleswig-Holsteiner speaking – we’re totally normal people, no less open than anywhere else in Germany :D, I guess most people can do at least some basic English indeed

exotic barn Apr 4, 2018, 4:44 AM

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I guess he wont have much problems communicating in English but I find it quite rude refusing to learn german, especially since he’ll be living in a host family. That’s just my opinion but he might encounter people there who share it.

tight kelp Apr 4, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Indeed. Why apply for such a thing if you're not interested?

harsh kettle Apr 4, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Free stuff

tight kelp Apr 4, 2018, 1:18 PM

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I'd expect the costs to be higher than to keep studying at home actually ;)

exotic barn Apr 4, 2018, 1:38 PM

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Especially if in the US, true that

fallen roost Apr 5, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Anyone know tons about uni assist?

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Wondering how early I should apply, knowing that they will not receive all of my documents until mid June (and I can upload my application on May 1.)

I know they will tell me if I have documents missing, but will they automatically update that status when they receive everything by post?

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Basically, I know it takes around 6 weeks to process anyways, so should I just apply 6 weeks before they receive everything, or wait a week or two and apply in mid may?

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Theres no way I can get the documents sent earlier, unfortunately. I just want to have everything ready as soon as possible, to take some stress off of me once I arrive (since I arrive before even knowing if I am able to study at the uni)

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 10:40 AM

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They will update everything is send you an update per email

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@fallen roost and will let you know what's missing

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it usually takes up to 6 weeks

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sometimes less

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Why can't you send the documents eariler ?

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can't apply before 1st June but you can send them any docs you already have right now

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to speed things up

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it'd take them less time to process your stuff now

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unlike in a couple of months when everyone is applying as well

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Can you do that? Like, lets hypotethically say you have 5 files you have to send, but one of them is missing and you'll have it late-June, can you send the other 4 and ship last one right when you get it?

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Yes

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I think you should warn them about it

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But that's how it works basically, because many students get their language certificates after the deadline

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Or they don't even have them at all during the application

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For ZF courses many universities let their prospective students send the certificate by Zulassung

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I'm also struggling with Uniassist now so mmlol

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I have 2 universities that require only B1 for application and I have this certificate in hands... so it kinda calms me down but still, I will have troubles sending my C1 certificate once it comes 🤷

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I don't think that it works for other documents like Schulzeugnis or anything important

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You might get a Bestätigung and send it with your docs

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Yeah in my case I won't have a diploma before mid-end June

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Foxxo full name

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delete it

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👍

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 10:58 AM

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am I an idiot

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or who

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Hehehe

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 10:58 AM

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covered her name on the doc

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but

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left it on the screenshot

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 10:58 AM

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You're a meme XDD

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 10:58 AM

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where is facepalm emoji

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 10:59 AM

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just write " :face_palm. " with a colon in the end instead of dot

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 10:59 AM

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📎 Screenshot_20180405-195905.jpg

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anyway

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 10:59 AM

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By the way, I asked on some forums but do you think it'll be a problem if I send a "temporary" diploma?

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My uni says I won't have the original file until 5-6 months after I graduate, but the temporary file will have a signed information that says it's one to one identical with original file

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:00 AM

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It's not really UniAssist's thing, you should discuss it with the unis you've chosen

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:00 AM

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ah fek

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Alrighty

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:01 AM

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Yeah

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But most of the unis would accept it I think

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This application is such a pain in ass, god

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I'm going to send my docs + b1 certificate on 14. April because of the LUH and then I will have to send another packet of docs mid June to Bauhaus 🤑 😔

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Idk how much money would these shipments cost me, I hope less than 250$ :^)))))

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The only adequate uni is RWTH Aachen imo. They're the only who use online application for international students 💞

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And yeah, make sure your uni doesn't need Vorprüfungsdokumentation

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Because if it does, you will hate the whole idea of application to Germany

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:13 AM

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FH Aachen is where I’m planning to go btw, I think I told you about it? 🤔

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:14 AM

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Yeah

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:14 AM

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I hope things will be fine Foxxo, I have a question, the thingy we talked about sending the other documents later, it’s only for Uni-assist right?

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You can’t do the same with individual unis I guess?

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:14 AM

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You can

chilly narwhal Apr 5, 2018, 11:15 AM

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If you tell them beforehand, you might be able to work things out!

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Uni assist is just a mediator between unis and you. You should explain the situation to your Uni and if they're okay with it, you can send it later

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For example Bauhaus doesn't work with UA, so I wrote them a letter explaining my situation and a ~~bitch fucked me up~~ nice lady said that I must provide at least a Bestätigung by the deadline

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So it "kinda" worked

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Ah i understand now, thanks Foxxo I’ll be trying to do something like that

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(Btw I thought the applications are in July, can you already do them now??)

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:20 AM

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Yeah, it is very important to contact their international offices

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You can send docs to UA whenever you want if im not mistaken

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The applications end in July

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https://i.imgur.com/wnbs1XH.png

Imgur

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:21 AM

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Oh that’s the end, okay gotcha

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:22 AM

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see, there is stupid Hannover mmlol

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what I also found today, some unis have different deadlines for different types of students

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for example:

students who graduated in german school but have foreign citizenship
students who need a visa
students who dont need a visa
students who have dual citizenship etc etc

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:24 AM

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I had no idea about that! 😱

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Because of the B2-C1 courses that I’ll have before uni, I’m kinda taking it simple so I never researched this much 👀

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:26 AM

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Well, you should do deeper research 😛

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Tbh that only works for Cottbus from my list

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So it might be a rare thing, but still 🤷

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:26 AM

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You mean the different deadline?

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:26 AM

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Yeah

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Although it makes sense

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For me as for a person who requires a visa, they must tell me earlier whether im accepted or not

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for Germans and for EU citizens the deadline is in August-September

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Yeah exactly, me too i also need a visa and at the ministry they give appointments for months later, therefore I have no clue when I should book an appointment 👀

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Sameeee

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and i also have to buy tickets to another city with german ambassy

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mmlol

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Oh I don't need to do that mmlol

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Btw Foxxo you don't need to do Studienkolleg right? I asked you before but I forgot now

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:33 AM

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yeah, i don't

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:34 AM

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We were randomly chatting at the language course the other day, there was this one guy who had to do it and they said it'd be better than going to a language course somewhere else, how come it is the better option?

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Because SK work directly with unis

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Oh

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:35 AM

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But you can't apply to a SK, you apply to an Uni and they tell you "ha dude ur language sucks go study one year there"

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Oh I thought going to SK is because the general education (year wise) wasn't equal with Germany education

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Although after you finished one year there, it doesn't mean you can apply only to a connected to your SK Uni

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Yeah

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This too

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Oh okay now it makes sense

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Year wise I'm fine, since I'll be a uni graduate here. But then I'd need the SK for language purposes, gotcha

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:37 AM

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👌

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Thanks Foxxo <3

exotic barn Apr 5, 2018, 11:57 AM

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You're welcome ^^

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Last I checked if you don't have to do SK then you're not allowed to do it. @ocean basalt

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Oh no rip 👀 Are you sure? @brisk lotus

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 12:36 PM

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almost yea

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that's what they told me in Munich

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not sure if it applies everywhere

tight kelp Apr 5, 2018, 12:40 PM

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yeah it fits what I had heard about it time ago

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you can only do it if you're required to.

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Well if I quit uni now, right before I graduate, I need SK

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if I graduate and go, I don't 👀

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I'm not sure if I should quit or not then

tight kelp Apr 5, 2018, 12:43 PM

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why would you want to do studienkolleg if you don't have to?

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Well if I quit uni now, right before I graduate, I need SK
How?

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Eh SKs are almost free, I was considering a rather economic situation, just a train of thought tho

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 12:44 PM

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I don't think it works that way

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if you have a passport which doesn't require SK then they expect you here to come with the high school certificate

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and not hope to achieve it here

tight kelp Apr 5, 2018, 12:46 PM

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yeah because sk is more about integrating someone into the western culture

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of course they also teach you the language but that wouldn't be top of the list for the ways to get that service...

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 12:46 PM

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On an informative website I saw that with my type of HS graduation and current uni type (it's different than the casual bachelors, this one is only 4 semester 2 years study) if I study one year and apply, I'd need a year of SK, and if I graduate and apply it says I can directly apply without SK

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¯_(ツ)_/¯ Guess I'd need to get a confirmation about this situation from DAAD

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Does that website talk about people from Turkey ?

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 12:50 PM

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Yeah, it's written by Turkish people too

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Must be some kinda exception maybe Efi 🤔

brisk lotus Apr 5, 2018, 12:50 PM

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well you better double check as I know for sure SK isn't a choice

ocean basalt Apr 5, 2018, 12:51 PM

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Alrighty gotcha wavedog

exotic barn Apr 6, 2018, 2:37 AM

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That‘s a bit of a bummer to me. According to anabin my high school certificate has a +/- designation so the universities I‘m going to apply to will personally assess the certificate whether it qualifies or not. However, I already attended some years in university here although I didn‘t finish my course. I have read that one can try and get one (or two) year(s) recognised so I don‘t have to go to an SK, but I think it will be beneficial for me to attend it because a.) I‘d have gap years by the time I apply next year so I want a catch-up of sorts (universities also look into gap years afaik) b.) the courses I take in the SK will properly prepare me for university and c.) I get to know more about German and Western culture in-depth through it

brisk lotus Apr 6, 2018, 12:10 PM

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@exotic barn what do you mean unis look into gap years

tight kelp Apr 6, 2018, 12:11 PM

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presumably years that aren't covered by your curriculum

exotic barn Apr 6, 2018, 12:54 PM

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the application for TUM for example, iirc, wants to know if you have gap years (if you stopped going to school/uni) and what you've been doing during that time

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i'm not sure if the other unis do the same though

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i don't think it was necessarily a criteria for admission or anything, just the uni wanting to look at it for some other reason(s)

brisk lotus Apr 7, 2018, 1:03 PM

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They all ask about it

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lebenslauf in general as well

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but I'm not sure how that would affect your admission

rose cedar Apr 7, 2018, 9:35 PM

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Are letters of recommendation a thing in regards to uni admissions?

exotic barn Apr 8, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Yup

molten flower Apr 9, 2018, 5:09 AM

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what are "DACH countries"

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just German-speaking countries?

humble kindle Apr 9, 2018, 5:21 AM

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D - Germany
A - Austria
Ch - Switzerland

hard parcel Apr 9, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Poor Liechtenstein

humble kindle Apr 9, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Maybe Luxembourg as well

tacit briar Apr 9, 2018, 7:53 AM

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Poor South Tiroleans, everybody forgets them 😛

dapper oracle Apr 9, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Ok, so I have a question. Lemme give a little background though. I live in the US and currently am a junior in highschool and I am thinking about universities to apply to. I've been wanting to apply to German college and I have searching up alot about it. But I still don't understand most of the requirements. Would anyone like to help me?

sand lotus Apr 9, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Youd like to study as a foreign exchange student in Germany?

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Though a US program or just straight through a German uni

dapper oracle Apr 9, 2018, 9:16 PM

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No as a straight up university student in germany

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like enrolled in german university

whole pecan Apr 10, 2018, 12:56 AM

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I’ve been searching for that too

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The German exam should be the hardest

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http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/courses/prospective/admission_int/knowledge_german.html

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1000 hours of instruction lol rip

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An ACT/SAT should be fit for the „foreign university entrance qualification“ I think

warped atlas Apr 10, 2018, 1:29 PM

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@dapper oracle @whole pecan

I haven't tried it, but try to check on DAAD, which should have a page somewhere that can help you on applying for the German uni from a different country.

More often than not, for Highschool students, they'd need a "reassessment/releveling" year, before they get sent to the University that they want, btw. They're called the Studienkolleg, and I heard that you'd probably go through Physics and Biology etc again, but this time, in German.

whole pecan Apr 10, 2018, 1:30 PM

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Hmm

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That year should be spent in Germany right?

warped atlas Apr 10, 2018, 1:32 PM

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Yep

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A friend of mine had gotten a state grant (from Malaysia) to study in Germany, and I don't remember all the procedures before he went to Hannover....but, after he got confirmed, he was sent to the Berlin Studienkolleg to do what I said above

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as well as getting his German language certification there

warped atlas Apr 10, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Question:

A headhunter just asked me before that a company is interested on interviewing me to be hired for a junior position. The thing was, they first need to know, and here I am quoting the headhunter, is whether I have a "work visa"

This to me, is a strange question, because as an Ausländer, and (well, still is) a student, I don't actually have a work visa (Arbeitserlaubnis), and even if I apply for a Visum für Arbeitsuchender, it's still not a n Arbeitserlaubnis....so...what the heck do they even mean? Yes, I have an Aufenthaltserlaubnis here in Germany...I am currently living here now legally....if you decide to hire me, then of course, I'll get that Arbeitserlaubnis to show you.

tight kelp Apr 10, 2018, 2:22 PM

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(Answering because you quoted me elsewhere) I don't really know, because I'm an EU citizen so I never had to deal with visas to live here. I'm thinking about people you could ask for advice and what comes to mind s the Ausländerbehörde or the consulate/embassy of your country.
I'm not really sure who would have jurisdiction/competence for this but going by logic, the Ausländerbehörde handles stuff like this on a daily basis so you could try finding someone to talk to there

sand lotus Apr 11, 2018, 3:43 AM

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If I was going to be in Dusseldorf for a day what would you recommend I do? Is there anything there thats like if you are here its a must?

exotic barn Apr 11, 2018, 12:09 PM

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Hey guys so I want to study in the Frankfurt school of Finance and Management. I just wanna know where I can get the grade requirements that they want.

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Also I am an IB student

warped atlas Apr 11, 2018, 12:16 PM

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@sand lotus Go to the Altstadt and hang out there, obviously. And look for the Golden Currywurst, sold by a shop called "Curry"

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look it up

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only costs 6 euro per portion, if I recall

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You'd literally be eating gold

sand lotus Apr 11, 2018, 2:12 PM

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Golden Currywurst. Damn

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Danke @warped atlas

exotic barn Apr 13, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Is Germany a good place to live if I wanted to persue a career in aeronautics?

eager jewel Apr 13, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Is it hard to get insured if you have a preexisting chronic condition?

silent pilot Apr 13, 2018, 5:11 AM

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Insurance is mandatory, so you have to have one

eager jewel Apr 13, 2018, 5:15 AM

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Will they charge more?

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If your condition is chronic

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Sorry, that's a thing here so I am unsure.

silent pilot Apr 13, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Alle beitragszahlenden Mitglieder gesetzlicher Krankenkassen zahlen 14,6 Prozent ihres Einkommens an die Krankenkasse.

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i am not really acquainted with the topic but that says it's only linked to your income

eager jewel Apr 13, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Danke

tight kelp Apr 13, 2018, 5:59 AM

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yeah you need to have a job here and when you do you automatically get insurance (unless you choose your krankenkasse yourself), and part of your monthly wages will go to them automatically

eager jewel Apr 13, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Ok, great. Thanks.

exotic barn Apr 13, 2018, 6:49 AM

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So guys I want to know, can I apply for university here in Germany without a German language certificate initially, but send it over when I get it?

tight kelp Apr 14, 2018, 7:07 AM

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I think you have limited time to give them the certificate but I don't know any detail so don't rely on me

red phoenix Apr 14, 2018, 12:25 PM

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@sand lotus gimme a ring when youre here

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Well hang out

exotic barn Apr 14, 2018, 2:38 PM

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Welches Dach? Wer macht das Dach?

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Hör mal auf mit dem Trollen

brisk lotus Apr 14, 2018, 7:18 PM

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@exotic barn depends on many different factors

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like what do you want to study

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where

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when

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etc

exotic barn Apr 14, 2018, 8:27 PM

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@brisk lotus Well I want to study Business, specifically International Management.

exotic barn Apr 14, 2018, 10:05 PM

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@exotic barn For most of the NC courses you need to have C1, for many Zulassungsfrei degrees you need B1 for application and then you must provide a C1 certificate within 3-4 months, also before enrollment. I dont think it's possible to apply with 0 knowledge of German, all you can do it's to try applying to some "bridge" course, but without B1 you cant even go to Studienkolleg. If you just don't have a certificate and you speak decent German, you can try explaining your situation to the Unis you've chosen and they might ask you for proofs that you are going to take an exam before the enrollment or that you paid for a language school for example.

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I am currently enrolled in Goethe Institut and am currently in B2.3

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I can hold a steady German convo

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Oh, that's good then

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I recommend you writing a letter to your uni

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Explain them your situation and ask for their advice

sand lotus Apr 14, 2018, 11:32 PM

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@red phoenix Dusseldorf? If it there Ill let you know!

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 9:36 AM

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@exotic barn I'll do that!

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Also I have another question

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How likely can I get into Business with a 3.5 abi

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No idea

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3.5 is quite bad if you consider that 4.0 is the worst possible grade

red phoenix Apr 15, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Ye

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 10:49 AM

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@exotic barn foxxo, do you know where i can check that b1 is ok and you have to send c1 later or which unis have that? So far I only saw what certificates they accept. Or do i just have to go through their websites more thoroughly?

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The latter

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Or you can email them 👌

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I see, thanks!

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@exotic barn Well shite

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Is there a way to deal with this

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No

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For foreigners maybe? I literally converted my grades to to Abitur grades

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Usually your school's admission office does that for you. You might get a better average. I'm not quite sure how your marking schemes are compared to the ones in Germany

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Well I used the formula I found on DAAD

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I've done the IB btw

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All my school did was to tell me what type of classes I should take

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:12 AM

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this begs the question, and I'm only asking out of curiosity: what does a German do if they want to go to uni but their abitur marks are crap?

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:13 AM

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A ZF degree

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@tight kelp they dont go to uni

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they usually do a Ausbildung or go to a Fachhochschule under certain conditions

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Wait I just remembered, do I have to go to the Studienkolleg?

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:14 AM

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well that's rather cruel isn't it

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:14 AM

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Like as my grades may not be enough for German standards

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@exotic barn Uni Hannover and BTU Cottbus need B1 👌

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WUT

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Yeah

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I mentioned it few times

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how good is hannover? 🤔

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😁

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Quite good

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Luna studied there

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Oh!

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B2/C1 is the usual average in terms of your CEFR level

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@exotic barn But yea would I need to go to the Studienkolleg in that case? If my grades aren't up to par.

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Some unis want c2 sadlol

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I can't answer that question for you. I was never in need of it

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Alright then, thanks for your help regardless

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@exotic barn i think you should email the uni and ask

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Goethe exam is a meme i guess

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anytime

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@exotic barn Alright

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cause you need C1 for any other exam

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except for goethe

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It was goethe and ösd

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For berlin at least

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Speaking of Goethe, that's the uni I'm trying to enter lol

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We mean the certificate tho

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O

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huh, ösd

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🤔

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Austrian

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yeah i know

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:18 AM

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if your average is too low you can still apply and do some Wartesemester - every semester you wait your average is seen as better by 0.2 or something. 20% of available places for a degree are reserved for these people.

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:18 AM

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I've heard DSH exams are a bit easier than the normal Goethe ones

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:19 AM

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ah, cool 🤔

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:19 AM

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@silent pilot Isnt that basically like the Studienkolleg?

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no

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:19 AM

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that's a weird system though, I don't quite get what it accomplishes, except give priority to those with better grades

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:19 AM

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Aha

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:21 AM

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yeah, it was supposed to be that 20% of seats get assorted for the people with the best grades, 20% for people who have been waiting with the system above and 60% are supposed to get chosen by the uni in a way they can determine. What happens is that the unis just go by the grades too and so there's only a real 20%/80% divide

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some unis (music, sports, art etc) have admission tests but they are an exception

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:22 AM

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hm

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:22 AM

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Is that only for Germans?

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:22 AM

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well at least there's something for people who had bad marks

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:22 AM

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What is considered as good grades in germany?

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1.00

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loleyes

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lol

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Kek

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:23 AM

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the average required to enter the course is entirely dependant on the course and the uni

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:23 AM

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Maybe <2

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🤔

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:23 AM

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some don't even have a required average and just let everyone in

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:23 AM

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True

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:24 AM

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personally my marks are good but I had my (huge) share of problems with institutionalised education and it's really shit when people get cut off because of precedents they not always had fault in causing

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:24 AM

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https://verwaltung.uni-koeln.de/studsek/content/e61957/e61958/e62270/e154236/Haupt-undNachrueckverfahrenWintersemester2017_18.pdf

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:24 AM

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Those are scary tho, cuz they kick out a lot of people too afaik mmlol

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reeeeeee hannovers site is bugged

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loleyes

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:24 AM

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the link i posted shows the average grades required for the Uni Köln last winter semester

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:24 AM

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in Italy I had to sit an admission test for a numerus clausus course which then ended up not having enough people :^)

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education in italy is a meme

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:25 AM

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What I find kinda weird is that I also applied to Leicester in the UK, which I got accepted to quite easily. But not pretty easily here.

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Why are there no stats for chemistry??? sadlol

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:25 AM

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because they let in everyone

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:26 AM

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OH

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notes down köln

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:26 AM

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the ones marked with that ♦ means that everyone who applied was admitted

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:26 AM

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proceeds to look for Business

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Oof

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1,5

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RIP me then

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Koeln has a lot of china related degrees

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:28 AM

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remember to look at the one to the right, not the one on the left or the middle

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:29 AM

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How can an average be 6????

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Oh thats waiting time

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Everybody with an average better than 2.0 got accepted into Betriebswirtschaftslehre

📎 31c57807ac709ad657cdefa6a3030c20.png

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Dang 6 semesters is loooong

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:31 AM

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look at Neurowissenschaften

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14 semesters

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:32 AM

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inb4 i finish another degree mmlol

silent pilot Apr 15, 2018, 11:32 AM

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that's probably the easiest solution there, yeah ^^

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Well I'll contact the Uni tomorrow and ask them about my situation

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The international office really confused me when I went to them long ago

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They told me IB students would have their own set of guidelines and stuff

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And if I gain my diploma and take the subjects they want me to take, it would be fine.

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If something is wrong then Studienkolleg

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What’s ib?

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International Baccalaureate

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Isn’t that british tho?

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No that's A Levels

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International Baccalaureate was developed in Switzerland

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I see

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:37 AM

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International

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;)

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:38 AM

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Wot

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:38 AM

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I mean it's international so it's not strictly british

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:38 AM

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O

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Ye lel

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Well yeah, but i never saw any unis giving ib students advantage over other foreigners so far

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Suzu

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No it's not really an advantage

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Thats what i meant

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you prolly dont know

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It's more of a restriction

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but there is a quote for international students

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:39 AM

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anyway i found this thing, "modified bavarian formula" for calculating german grade depending on foreign grading systems

📎 MBF.png

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Restriction?

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in most of the unis

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around 10% are reserved for international students and we don't compete with germans

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I have to take certain subjects I really find no interest in, and in a level I'm not sure I was able to do

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It was a challenge

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I know about that, i heard that eu citizens have advantage

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Not really

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That’s what my bf told me

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 11:40 AM

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although in my case the italian upper secondary school marks go from 60 to 100 because under 60 you haven't passed, and I'm not sure if I should plug in 0 or 60 as the minimum 🤔

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 11:40 AM

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That some unis take 60% eu, 40% others or sth like that

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From the 10%

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Goethe told me depending on your nationality, you may have more priority over other nationalities

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Dunno how true that is

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they want students from different countries, so if there are 10 students from Czech you have less chances than someone from China

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Right

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I'm literally the only Kuwaiti student in Hessen

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Lel

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Though I don't know if my prospects are good regardless. I'm really stuck in a tight spot.

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Hmmm true but I’m not sure if czechs actually go to germany more than chinese

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I'm honestly hoping they'd tell me to go to the Studienkolleg lol

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I've gotten my diploma and shit

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Just an example

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But still though I want to know

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But my point was that they want more eu than other countries from what I’ve heard

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And the bavarian formula sucks, i just tried it

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What are you abi grades then?

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The International Office said based on my grades and that I achieved all the guidelines set my the German government on the IB, and the fact I'm the only Kuwaiti within vicinity of the university, would put me in a good spot.

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@exotic barn Mine?

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Yes

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Uh according to DAAD, using their formula it's 3,5

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Well, your uni said that you achieved all the guidelines, not that you will have any advantage over other and that you’ll get accepted

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Which I pretty shite

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No, not the daad

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Oh my IB points?

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Yeah

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27

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Over?

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42

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Um yeah, that doesn’t seem good

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But you can look up unis without NC

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Zulassungsfrei

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Hmm

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But my point was that they want more eu than other countries from what I’ve heard
Seems to be true but ive never heard of it 🤔

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@carmine heron could you tell as more or provide a source pls?^^^

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:00 PM

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By EU you mean EU citizen or euros?

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Is it Suzus bf 🤔

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Yes

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:01 PM

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😱 😱 😱 😱 😱

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~~Both~~ citizens honey mmlol

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:03 PM

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It depends on the uni but usually it's %20 non-eu %20 waiting queue and %60 eu/german

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:03 PM

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What if I have permanent residency mmlol

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Well %60eu/german and some exceptions

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I'm not sure

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:04 PM

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Lived in the country for almost 10 years

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Permanent residency doesn’t mean german tho?

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In germany you mean??

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Yea

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:04 PM

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I think you need to be a citizen but I'm not sure

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:04 PM

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Huh arent you basically a native then???

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Can't become citizen

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And you dont speak German C2 loleyes

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:04 PM

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You can send an email to your preferred uni

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:05 PM

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@exotic barn International school mostly in English

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Also German classes weren't pretty good

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Hence why I'm trying to do the Prüfung to prove my German level this Tuesday

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If you had a german graduating diploma, it would be fine, but i dont think permanent citizenship gives you any advantage over others but im not sure

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I mean I have what they would call an Abitur equivalent

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Yeah but you’re not a german

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Yea

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Which I could easily become, but can't

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Not allowed to

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:07 PM

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You could Alsop apply for neutralization tho

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Not allowed to

carmine heron Apr 15, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Since you have been living in Germany for 10 years

civic sail Apr 15, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Say you have German citizenship, can you call yourself german ❓

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Technically yes

civic sail Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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(but not born there)

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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But others wont accept you as german mmlol

civic sail Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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🤔 trutru

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Kuwaiti nationality law prohibits taking a second citizenship

civic sail Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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plastic surgery 👀

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mine too

red phoenix Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Uff kuwait

civic sail Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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only 1 citizenship / time

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:08 PM

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Its not about the looks

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I could try to take it secretly, but the German government will tell Kuwait

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Then I'm fucked

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You could just give up the kuwait nationality

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I won't tho

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They are financing my overseas studies

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Lel

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In that case, germany normally also doesn’t allow a double nationality

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 12:12 PM

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but there are ways around that

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:12 PM

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Like?

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 12:12 PM

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a former member of this server managed to get German citizenship on top of their original USA one

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Well yeah, normally

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Those are exemptions

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I think it's because the US citizenship is a very hard thing to revoke

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 12:14 PM

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would it be worth looking for analogous ways to get around that kuwaiti law? Perhaps there are exceptions?

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Only exceptions I know of is for Kuwaitis with an American parent

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Like 3 of my cousins

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 12:17 PM

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if it's important to you, you could try inquiring with your embassy or a patronat or similar institution and maybe they can find a way

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:18 PM

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It's not as important right now. I'm gonna try all other options before doing something potentially life changing

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Is it possible to contact university professors?

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Maybe I can ask them for their advice for my current situation

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I don’t think uni proffesors know anything about special cases in admission

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Worth a try though

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The international office aren't any help rn

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 12:21 PM

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why the professors though, and not the uni itself?

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:21 PM

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Well I did go to the university itself

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Many times

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And they tell me the same thing everytime

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professors know probably nothing about the application

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Well I just don't know how to proceed really

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its not in their competence

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^

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I know

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I'll try to go to the uni again then.

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I don’t get what your problem rn is tho

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Lemme explain from the beginning then

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3,5 fullfils the requirements but they can’t really know how you’ll do compared to others.

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The German government placed restrictions for IB students. So I took the classes they said is should take, then I got my diploma. Thus having the Abitur equivalent. The international office said my grades and being the only person of my nationality would be enough to enter the university. Though they told me to wait until my application is sent over and went over officially as I may or may not have to go to the Studienkolleg. Though now I'm not sure if I'm really fine as others here tell me that it may not be enough to get into Uni. So now I'm pretty confused.

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 12:31 PM

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can't you just apply and see how it goes? 🤔

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Well I'm waiting

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As i said - you fulfill the minimum requirements but who knows how you’ll fare against others

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It's not May yet

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@exotic barn Well having a chance is better than no chance

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Nobody said you have no chance tho?

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I think it was just miscommunication

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the question about studienkolleg - nobody knows here

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Yea I understand

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I probably confused people here too

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Sorry again xD

brisk lotus Apr 15, 2018, 1:44 PM

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@exotic barn where's your high school certificate from ?

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is that in your profile picture the Palestinian flag ? if so, I know you don't need Studienkolleg as a Palestinian..

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 2:19 PM

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@brisk lotus An IB school in Hessen

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And no I'm not Palestinian lel

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Guys I wonder

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Is it possible to enter one Studium for a year and then switch to another studium if your grades on those two semesters were good?

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Doods

tight kelp Apr 15, 2018, 5:36 PM

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interesting question. Someone here mentioned they're doing computer science and mathematics at the same time, which may be related 🤔

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was it @viral stratus ?

viral stratus Apr 15, 2018, 5:55 PM

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jap

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but I guess the question was something about international students

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I wouldn’t know what prevented international students from doing a Doppelstudium, but I could also say I know basically nothing about international students stuff, so I’m of no help :D

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Also IMO switching your Studium subject is a very natural thing to do, so I’d surprised me if there were any restrictions on that (that is switching.. Doppelstudium does have restrictions, especially on subjects that have limited capacities)

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 6:27 PM

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@viral stratus The thing is the minute you enter university, your highschool grades become irrelevant

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Hence my question

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I'd need to have a good grade by the end of the first academic year

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At least I assume so

viral stratus Apr 15, 2018, 6:31 PM

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I also have no ideas how Studiengänge with limited capacities (zulassungsbeschränkt) work, because I study maths and computer science. Your highschool grades are 100% irrelevant if you want to study maths or computer science (at least at my Uni), you just a highschool degree.

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but my guess would be that if you want to start a totally different subject your highschool grades do indeed become relevant again.

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 6:32 PM

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Well I want to study Betriebswirtschaft, and I thought of first going into Politikwissenschaft before switching to Business

viral stratus Apr 15, 2018, 6:36 PM

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I mean if you want to I guess you could also just start of by visiting some Politik lectures without being in that Studiengang (at least that might be possible). Maybe ask some kind of allgemeine Studienberantung from the University via Mail, what the best option would be to do what you’d like to do.

exotic barn Apr 15, 2018, 6:43 PM

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@viral stratus That's the plan for now, however I'll try to put some effort into the year though. Better to get something out the year than waste it

sick dune Apr 15, 2018, 6:51 PM

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I have a question

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I know this will sound stupid but...

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Does Brotwurst taste good?

uncut stream Apr 15, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Yes @sick dune , especially the brotwurst with cheese mmmmmm

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Dang it I still miss meat

torn glen Apr 15, 2018, 10:24 PM

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If your Meat needs cheese, it‘s bad meat

burnt thicket Apr 16, 2018, 3:04 AM

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If your cheese needs meat, it's bad cheese

fleet pelican Apr 16, 2018, 5:51 AM

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Cheese and meat are both fucking delicious you swines

exotic barn Apr 16, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Swine
That's a level of haram I don't wanna cross

fleet pelican Apr 16, 2018, 7:41 AM

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And that's an outdated shitty joke

exotic barn Apr 16, 2018, 7:42 AM

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@exotic barn mah man, hallo

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@exotic barn Ayy what's up dude

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You seem to be everywhere on discord

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😅

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I'm omnipresent on the internet

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Anyways, to learn deutsch of course

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Ja

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wew lad

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omnipresent

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Whats the difference between sind and seid?

tight kelp Apr 16, 2018, 7:46 AM

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sied doesn't exist

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what's the difference between #questions and channels that have completely different purposes? 🤔

exotic barn Apr 16, 2018, 7:48 AM

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ooof

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@exotic barn Sind is used for wir and Sie/sie

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Seid for ihr

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Thanks mate, but it gives the same meaning?

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Yes

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Which is "to be"

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I see

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Ich bin is I am

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Du bist is You are

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Etc

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Yeah I have learned those phrases

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Gud

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Gut, 😂

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Lol I meant the other version of Good lel

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Not the German one lel

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I know bruh

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xD

warped atlas Apr 16, 2018, 8:01 AM

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Before doing a Bachelorarbeit/Masterarbeit Kolloquium, what should be prepared for the presentation/Q&A?

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Do I HAVE TO create a Powerpoint presentation, or do I give an opening statement to what my work was all about as well as a working demonstration for 10-15 mins, then the Q&A comes

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?

brisk lotus Apr 16, 2018, 10:28 AM

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@exotic barn as an international student you can change your subject/university up to ~~the 3rd semester~~ midway through your degree and only once.

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@warped atlas I would say check your PO, they usually have what they expect from you in every course including the final project

sand lotus Apr 17, 2018, 8:15 PM

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So in the song Sommer '89 (Er schnitt Löcher in den Zaun) theres a part that explains why the DDR-Bürger wanted to come to the West. One line is "Für Immobilien ohne Wert" and I dont understand the context of this. Any help is appreciated

tight kelp Apr 17, 2018, 8:18 PM

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this might be of use: https://genius.com/12575665
(find the paragraph and click it to get the commentary)

Genius

Sie kamen für Kiwis und Bananen / Für Grundgesetz und freie Wahl...

Hier werden klischeehafte Dinge aufgezählt die für viele BRD-Bürger die Gründe (der DDR-Bürger) für eine Auswanderung zu sein schienen. Hier finden sich viele Parallelen zu heutigen Klischees gegenüber von Flüchtlingen wie zum Beispiel da...

sand lotus Apr 17, 2018, 8:20 PM

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Ive been looking at that. Mentions nothing on that specific line

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Im thinking it has to do with the BRD giving DDR-Flüchtlinge places to live?

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(also thanks for finding that for me, although I had already been using it)

tight kelp Apr 17, 2018, 8:22 PM

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I tried a cursory search and I can't find any historical factoid that could be relevant, unfortunately

sand lotus Apr 17, 2018, 8:23 PM

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Same, which is why I tried here.

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Hmmmm

tight kelp Apr 17, 2018, 8:24 PM

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wish I could have been more helpful. If you find out, do share

sand lotus Apr 17, 2018, 8:27 PM

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Will do. Appreciate the help though

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I texted a friend, who lived through die Wende, and is Österreichisch, what he thought it could mean. He thinks it might have something to do with the lousy housing market at the time but he really doesnt know. Im asking some Professors as well to see what they think as well.

silent pilot Apr 18, 2018, 5:49 AM

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I‘d say that it has to do with the fact that house prices in the east have always been far lower than in the west. When both countries got reunited, people in the east were faced with the reality that their standard of living was lower and their houses were not worth as much. In a way, they‘ve had to compete with west-germans, as it is easy and cheap to move to east germany as a westerner but the other way round is an uphill battle.

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There have been government incentives that tried to diminish the imparity between east and west, like the Solidaritätszuschlag, but still in the east wages are lower, people don‘t get as old, standard of living is lower etc.

tight kelp Apr 18, 2018, 6:33 AM

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But doesn't that part of the song refer to reasons an east German would want to move west?

silent pilot Apr 18, 2018, 6:54 AM

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This part of the song is quoting some cliches and also mentions some things that people from the GDR were looking forward to, but were later disappointed by.

elfin cape Apr 18, 2018, 5:16 PM

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anyone from northern germany that could tell me how much low german is used? 🤔

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last time i was there during my vacation i didnt really notice it 😦

exotic barn Apr 18, 2018, 5:18 PM

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low German?

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do you mean the use of colloquial terms

tight kelp Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM

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I think the dialect

red fog Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM

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I'm assuming they mean Low German the language

exotic barn Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM

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yeah but that doesnt really make sense in northern germany

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thinkingnohands

red fog Apr 18, 2018, 5:19 PM

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Why not?

tight kelp Apr 18, 2018, 5:20 PM

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low german = north
high german = (originally) south

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i know, it's confusing

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germany is actually upside down

red fog Apr 18, 2018, 5:20 PM

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It's Platt, nully

exotic barn Apr 18, 2018, 5:20 PM

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yeah, they're referring to something called "Plattdeutsch". To answer your question, it's mostly used by elders

noble parcel Apr 20, 2018, 2:59 PM

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What time do Austrian banks close usually?

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I’m expecting a call but it’s late now

civic sail Apr 20, 2018, 3:17 PM

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Is medical insurance necessary for the application of Schengen Visa?

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I just read it's necessary to have 30K medical insurance coverage but isn't it very expensive for tourists

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Can someone please translate the title

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Of this channel

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Living under the roof (literally) 😉

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Ok then

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:11 PM

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It's a word play, since DACH is also an abbreviation

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:11 PM

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I too live under a roof

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:12 PM

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DACH - Deutschland, Austria, Confederatio Helvetica (Switzerland)

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:12 PM

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Wie man level b gehen

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(How do you go to level b)

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:15 PM

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You mean, the level of the language skill?

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:15 PM

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The role on this server

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Gibt es dort ein quiz oder etwas

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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No, the roles are assessed by the users themselves

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:16 PM

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Ok then

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:17 PM

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You set the level based on your feeling

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But don't exaggerate, people here will quickly notice, if you set higher level than you actually are at 😉

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Gibt es dort wie viel levels?

tacit briar Apr 20, 2018, 6:18 PM

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The levels are based on CEFR

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Framework_of_Reference_for_Languages

Common European Framework of Reference for Languages

The Common European Framework of Reference for Languages: Learning, Teaching, Assessment, abbreviated in English as CEFR or CEF or CEFRL (compared to the German abbreviations GeR or GeRS, the French abbreviation CECRL, the Italian QCER, or the Sp...

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Danke

exotic barn Apr 20, 2018, 9:02 PM

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@civic sail yes, its necessary

civic sail Apr 21, 2018, 1:17 AM

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eeh ok

sand lotus Apr 21, 2018, 3:59 PM

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If i want to look at train schedules where should I go?

tight kelp Apr 21, 2018, 4:07 PM

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https://www.bahn.de

bahn.de - Ihr Mobilitätsportal für Reisen, Bahn, Urlaub, Hotels,...

Deutschlands beliebtestes Reise- und Mobilitätsportal: Auskunft, Bahnfahrkarten, Online-Tickets, Länder-Tickets, günstige Angebote rund um Urlaub und Reisen.

sand lotus Apr 21, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Awesome! I googled and there were a million different sites. Thanks!

sand lotus Apr 21, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Whats this little icon mean? Skips the station? https://puu.sh/A7IFV/a54e53c245.png

tight kelp Apr 21, 2018, 4:31 PM

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seeing out of context doesn't help much :p

sand lotus Apr 21, 2018, 4:33 PM

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https://www.bahn.de/p/view/mdb/kursbuch/mdb_264459_koblenz_hbf_1718_ab_winter.pdf

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Sorry XD

tacit briar Apr 21, 2018, 5:46 PM

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bis hier sind alle Halte angegeben / all stops are indicated up tohere

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(all the symbols are described on the last page)

sand lotus Apr 22, 2018, 12:22 AM

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oh im blind

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ok thanks!

ocean basalt Apr 23, 2018, 10:38 AM

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How likely it is for an international student (non-EU) to find a job while studying in Germany?

karmic lava Apr 23, 2018, 12:35 PM

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Shouldn’t be that much of a problem to be honest. I assume you’re atleast 18 and your german suffices to hold everyday conversations. (since you’re studying).

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People are pretty open to students who look for part time jobs

tight kelp Apr 23, 2018, 1:00 PM

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incidentally, what are the places you look to find this sort of jobs?

young ermine Apr 24, 2018, 10:01 AM

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http://www.internationale-studierende.de/en/prepare_your_studies/financing/jobbing/

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https://www.arbeitsagentur.de/en/job-board

brisk lotus Apr 24, 2018, 1:35 PM

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@ocean basalt depends on the field and city, but shouldn't be too hard

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I found one hehe

exotic barn Apr 25, 2018, 8:44 AM

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@exotic barn pinging you here because the general channels are quite busy. Normally, everything in regard to visiting a dentist and seeking advice from them should be covered by your insurance company unless stated otherwise

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But is it normal to charge for calls and emails?

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Nope

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A friend from Moroco got charged 20€ for emails and calls, I suspect that dentist to have scammed her.

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Welp, thanks oxi!

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Yeah, that does sound very strange. I never heard of them charging you for that

red fog Apr 25, 2018, 11:13 AM

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Oh wow. Going to the dentist is expensive as hell here, it's covered in Germany?

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No matter what the problem is?

exotic barn Apr 25, 2018, 11:14 AM

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Hmmm, braces aren’t covered i think

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Or anything that doesn’t hurt i guess

fleet pelican Apr 25, 2018, 11:22 AM

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it hurts how ugly my teeth are

civic sail Apr 25, 2018, 11:35 AM

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mine too

exotic barn Apr 27, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Guys

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Has anyone here used the Commerzbank Cash Deposits before?

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Yeah I have

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@exotic barn So how long does it take for the money to transfer to your account

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up to 3 business days depending on when you made the deposit

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Well I made it today 9am

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So I guess on tuesday

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?

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You could also have it tomorrow since Saturday counts as business day

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O

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Alrighty then

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Thanks for the info fam

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Anytime

coarse jetty Apr 27, 2018, 4:50 PM

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ha putting money into your own account takes up to 3 days there?

exotic barn Apr 27, 2018, 4:50 PM

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it can, but usually it only takes one day

coarse jetty Apr 27, 2018, 5:34 PM

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in the UK it's instant with my bank

spark tree Apr 28, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Is it worth doing an A1 test if I won't be using the A1 certificate to get a job for a while?

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By time I graduate I'll probably be above A1 anyway

sick imp Apr 28, 2018, 6:28 PM

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Most organizations require a certificate that's either less than 6 months or less than a year old, so it's definitely best to wait until you actually need it.

spark tree Apr 28, 2018, 11:42 PM

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Nice thanks

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I'll just get one before I start looking for a job then

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Hello. As I've heard, free education is only available if one knows German, right?
Do I need to do a B2 test? Would a certificate from Goethe Institut suffice?
I wanna get a training as an industrial electrician. Is the vocational school called "Berufsschule"? And Do you I really need to find a contract from a Germany company to consent for my training? Or is it easy enough to apply directly online for such schools?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Yes

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Berufsschule is generally a part of an Ausbildung (apprenticeship)

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In the case of the job "Industrieelektriker" if thats what youre looking for

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 3:41 PM

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@red phoenix So it is easy to gain admission then? Is having a German certificate enough?
Yes, That's exactly the job I'm looking for.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 3:41 PM

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depends on your grades and how much you already did in that field

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it's generally a thing 16-18 year olds apply to

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:02 PM

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I don't really like unis, they teach nothing.
Vocational schools prepare you straight for work and business, esp. when it's about engineering.
Besides their standards differ from ours, and have to learn many things anew.
Are you working in this sphere yourself, btw?
So they want my uni grades for vocational school?! In my place, it is totally independant and requires nothing.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:26 PM

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people can go to uni after vocational school

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you got it mixed up there, dude

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I went to both, mate.)

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:26 PM

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not here

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that#s what i mean

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i assume you're british?

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:26 PM

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And overall preferred vocational one.

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nope, I'm Iranian.

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I first entered uni, then tried with vocational one. Education here sucks ass.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:27 PM

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basically in my first half year of uni i learned more about construction and mechanics and creating technical drawings than my cousin did in her three years of apprenticeship towards the job that does nothing but desigining technical drawings

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Woher kommst du?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:28 PM

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points at yellow name

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:28 PM

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ah verdammt, ich verstehe.

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How much they taught you practically there?

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Everywhere I read German unis are also mostly theoretical.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:29 PM

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i failed uni hard

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but i went to college not uni

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lots of cooperation with companies was required

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my bro is currently a year ahead of where i was when i dropped out

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he's already applying with companies to cooperate with them for his final year

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if you mean "industrie elektirker", that's a rather low level job

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as in very practical

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:30 PM

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So should I aim for the college? and how is it called in German?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:30 PM

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and middle class

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:30 PM

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go on

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 PM

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and several levels below engineers

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Yes, I'm aware.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:31 PM

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just wanted to clarify that

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many people think that Berufsschule is on the same level as Uni/college in germany

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:32 PM

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I'm just honest with myself. Bachelor here is worth nothing compare to Erstklassige deutsche Ausbildung. So I prefer to reset everything, and start from scratch. I don't plan to get rich, just to work honestly and have an easy life on its materialistic side.

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Are you a mechanical engineer?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:33 PM

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no

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i'm a mere salesman of car parts

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but i'm so good at my job

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you didn't even notice me selling you two sets of winter tyres

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:33 PM

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Why not, if I had the money, ofc. haha

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:34 PM

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is there ven winter in Iran?

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:34 PM

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Yes. It's still often winter in spring here.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:34 PM

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ah

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sorry for my ignorance then

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you educated me today. Rejoice for having had this privilege!

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Not snowing, but damn cold. But our cold is your spring perhaps. For example a Russian might call 20 degrees a nice weather to go naked, but I'd need a jacket.)

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I'd like to be educated as well, mate, if you could make this dumb-founded lost guy find his way in the dark.

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Like, how is it called in German, the college you mentioned? (I'll read its wiki page next time, promise, German education)

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:39 PM

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Fachhochschule

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:41 PM

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"is there ven winter in Iran?"
And we're not terrorists, only fundamentalists have the power, so most educated people are suppressed. I myself am atheist generally, but believe in mysticism (uniquely Persian AND Indian).
Iran is also very diversified from ancient times in ethnicity. So I'm not a Persian, but a Turkmen, considered a minority.
Just saying. lol there is absolutely no PC or SJW stuff here. Liked to inform you more.))

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:43 PM

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thanks

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:44 PM

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aaah yes, that's what I was looking for.
As you already know engineering is very hard field in any branches to study, so my grades are not perfect but not too low either (but I did well in vocational school). Is there hope for me to gain admission? Or would my preparation for German certificate be all in vain (I also have IELTS 7.5 out of 9)?...

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:44 PM

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i don't know the specifics on this one

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:45 PM

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For Fachhochschule I need to present my uni grades then?

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or is it only for Masters in uni?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:45 PM

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fachhochschule is parallel to University

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Would my vocational certificate help too?

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Sorry, man, German educational system is a bit vague topic for me.

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Your brother was into college or vocational school?
So the college deals more pragmatically with the topics of engineering than uni, in your opinion?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:50 PM

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he goes to college

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i went to college too but didn't manage to graduate and thus went a step down the ladder to do an Apprenticeship

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part of that apprenticeship was going to berufsschule twice weekly

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:52 PM

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What matters is in the end you've got successful.

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oh yes, a German buddy told me I have to find myself a contract first with some company willing to bring me in so that I could both work and study in Berufsschule.

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But for Fachhochschule, is it the same? Or can I apply directly?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:55 PM

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an FH is almost the same as an Uni

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just that Uni is research/science based and FH is science/job based

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:56 PM

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So I should apply online in their own websites directly then?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:56 PM

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depends on the company

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for mine i just sent a letter and had the job two weeks later

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got lucky tho

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:57 PM

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Does one get paid while studying in FH just like Berufsschule?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:57 PM

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no

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FH is like Uni

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both are a step above Berufsschule

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Can one survive then with a part-time job? Is there anyway to support oneself beside scholarships?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 4:58 PM

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you get Bafög, but i don't know if that applies to foreign students as well

tight kelp Apr 30, 2018, 4:59 PM

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it's not limited to german citizens

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but i'm not sure of the details or whether it is limited to eu citizens for example

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 4:59 PM

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Any prerequisites?

tight kelp Apr 30, 2018, 5:00 PM

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you can check on their website

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Danke sehr.

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Berzi, just when you need her

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heartGASM

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:02 PM

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And please be patient with me, I don't have that native German mindset. Still confused about FH. So I will require a company to be kind to me first and grant me a contract in order to gain admission there then?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 5:06 PM

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no

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you have to have the same school graduation level as for a univerity

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or job experience

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:08 PM

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So with my bachelor's degree and vocational school certificate, could I then apply?

red phoenix Apr 30, 2018, 5:12 PM

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i don't know

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depends on how degrees from your country are valued by german institutes

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:16 PM

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Okay, many thanks, I troubled you enough already. If you have any cultural questions, about Iran or Russia, I'm an open book, you can talk to me privately if you like, as a way to humbly compensate for the current help you gave. Have a great evening, mate.

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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@barren cipher you dont need any contract with any company to study in germany, you only need a right hight school graduation certificate

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:31 PM

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Sehr interessant.

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@exotic barn High school? Isn't it something mandatory and banal? I mean we all passed it. So basically nothing challenging required except for German fluency?

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:33 PM

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you also need to be able to prove that you have sth around 8000 euros a year to support yourself

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well, not all hs certificates are accepted for all schools

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like, only those equivalent to german gymnasium (a type of high school) can study at a uni, otherwise you have to go through a course at a studienkolleg

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so it really depends on what you wanna study and where

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also, germany doesnt have only unis but also technical unis which are less theoritical i guess

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:35 PM

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As our friend mentioned before, I think FH is better for me. that's my aim, not uni.

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And what is called in German this technical uni?

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:36 PM

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that was just an example but you have to look up what you need to apply for that, every school has slightly different requirements

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technische hochschule i believe

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:37 PM

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even if I have a bachelor and certificate already I might have to pass studienkolleg, bitte nicht XD

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:37 PM

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depends on what bachelor

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:38 PM

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so many branches you Germans have in your educational system.)

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:38 PM

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but i think bac should be ok 🤔

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since usually they either require studienkolleg or 1 year of study at a uni in your school

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:38 PM

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I wanna restudy in anything that is equivalent of bachelor.

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:39 PM

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look up fachhochschule or technische hochschule i guess 🤔

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:39 PM

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And in a more practical way, as much as possible.

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Tausend Dank.)

exotic barn Apr 30, 2018, 5:40 PM

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you could also look up if your bac is accepted in germany :D

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yw

barren cipher Apr 30, 2018, 5:42 PM

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I really am not interested in master, just being honest with myself, the uni taught nothing. I prefer reeducate myself, by German standards. Thanks, anyway.))

lucid valveBOT May 1, 2018, 6:29 AM

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jaetwee

Quoted by Pferd

Heyo. So I just received my university allocation for my exchange year to germany and I've been assigned to Karlsruhe Institut für Technologie and am now currently looking at residence options.

does anyone have any recommendations (i'd prefer an ensuite and kitchenette but i'm fine with sharing a bathroom with a couple of other people. just as long as it isn't american dorm styled). price isn't really an issue as what they pay for a month of rent is about par with what i currently pay for per week for some places

sullen robin May 1, 2018, 6:29 AM

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can anyone help

undone wraith May 1, 2018, 8:09 AM

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but how?

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Also, off topic: Has anyone ever tried joining German community servers in order to learn German? I'd imagine that it would be good practice for advanced speakers.

tight kelp May 1, 2018, 8:13 AM

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Haven't tried. Couldn't find anything I was interested in - although I didn't look very hard

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And besides, I try to cut down on discord time as much as possible. My day isn't long enough for all I want to do

faint moon May 1, 2018, 8:14 AM

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@undone wraith maybe something not german-related but when I was practicing English i combined it with my interests which makes it a lot easier. in my case i did learn a bunch of people while i was practicing guitar or meeting people in a skatepark

tight kelp May 1, 2018, 8:16 AM

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(You can't learn people)

faint moon May 1, 2018, 8:18 AM

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oh yeah ... right

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upps

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forget what i said then

tight kelp May 1, 2018, 8:20 AM

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You can certainly get to know them. It doesn't invalidate the rest of what you said ;)

undone wraith May 1, 2018, 9:54 AM

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@tight kelp @faint moon I meant like community game servers. This validates your point of combining interests even more.

faint moon May 1, 2018, 10:59 AM

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@undone wraith do you play cs:go by any chance? you can connect on german servers via the in-game server browser

undone wraith May 1, 2018, 11:30 AM

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@faint moon Nah when it comes to German community servers I always play TTT because while communication in CS is important it's really fun when playing TTT and trying to find out who the traitor is. I even think it's the best overall gamemode if you want to have fun interactions with others in game.

sand lotus May 3, 2018, 5:38 PM

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So I'm thinking of going to a concert in Berlin but idk if it's in a good part of town or not. Berlin is a big city and I know how big cities work, some parts are bad and should be avoided, especially by someone whose not from there. How's Friedrichshain?

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Some articles Ive found says that area is pretty shit, but it's been getting better. Thoughts?

dense oriole May 4, 2018, 8:46 AM

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Oh shit, it's almost Himmelfaahrt, my dudes. Ascension Day. Is that a thing that's observed in Germany, Switzerland, and Austria still, or just a Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch thing?

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 8:53 AM

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https://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/germany/ascension

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does anyone know if, to get a eheähnliche Gemeinschaft (or whatever the thing is called), I and my parter have to go together? Because he might have landed a job and his working hours are not compatible with the Standesamt, if that even is the right place for this

brisk lotus May 4, 2018, 11:19 AM

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@tight kelp how would that help with his working hours ?

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 11:20 AM

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no the point is we have to do that but we can't go together because he's working when the office is open

alpine hollow May 4, 2018, 11:20 AM

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just call them and ask

brisk lotus May 4, 2018, 11:20 AM

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oh

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It makes more sense that you both have to go together

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But better ask

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 11:21 AM

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but telephone :<

brisk lotus May 4, 2018, 11:22 AM

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What about it

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 11:31 AM

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I have a rather strong aversion towards speaking on the telephone. I barely do that with my parents

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was just fishing for info here in case anybody knew

brisk lotus May 4, 2018, 11:38 AM

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🤔

alpine hollow May 4, 2018, 11:43 AM

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you are asking on a nerd server

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berzel pls

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 11:49 AM

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^^"

brisk lotus May 4, 2018, 12:12 PM

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lol

exotic barn May 4, 2018, 12:38 PM

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You could ask you partner to call

alpine hollow May 4, 2018, 12:43 PM

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he is worse than berzi

exotic barn May 4, 2018, 12:44 PM

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Oh nvm then 👀

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 12:52 PM

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yeah that's actually true

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I had to do two days' worth of convincing for him to go at a verstellungsgespräch. Now he's got a job. Or at least a trial

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 1:42 PM

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more practical question inc:
where should I dispose of cans of compressed gases and similar, like a Rasierschaumdose? Gelbe Mülltonne oder was sonstiges?

sick imp May 4, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Throw them out on the street when nobody's looking, duh.

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 2:13 PM

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this is not austria, arrim

exotic barn May 4, 2018, 2:49 PM

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schwarze Tonne

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then again, this is regional

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/Restmülltonne oder was auch immer ihr habt

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 3:37 PM

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so no recycling? :0

red phoenix May 4, 2018, 3:53 PM

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Does it have a grüner Punkt?

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Also: Berzi u 'marrying?'

alpine hollow May 4, 2018, 3:55 PM

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distAww

red phoenix May 4, 2018, 3:55 PM

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Are you going to wear a pretty dress?

alpine hollow May 4, 2018, 3:56 PM

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i'll wear a pretty dress for berzi

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 4:14 PM

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we're looking into it

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also because we don't like having to pay versicherung separately -.-

red phoenix May 4, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Ye

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Steuervorteile yo!

tight kelp May 4, 2018, 4:31 PM

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although I haven't been able to find any details on these yet

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 2:51 PM

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Hey, I fucked up on an interview about the amount of money I should be getting...

Anybody got a ballpark figure which I can use?

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I am a new Masterabsolvent with 0 exp, in the field of Information Technology, and am trying to find a job in BaWü.

Got a call from a consulting firm, who asks me as a newcomer to be mobile for the first 2 years, and I asked for 60000 Euro Einkommen a year. Was that too low or too high?

humble kindle May 7, 2018, 2:57 PM

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Too high I would say

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With a Master's and 0 experience I'm asking for 50000/year in bavaria (which is already a bit high and I'll most likely have it reduced a bit)

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 2:59 PM

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Even if it's a consulting firm?

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and as an engineer in BaWü, it's should be a bit higher....

humble kindle May 7, 2018, 3:00 PM

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Would say so, should ask my gf who's a consultant (but I don't know when she's online)

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 3:00 PM

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I thought I saw somewhere it's 56000, but at a "normal" company

humble kindle May 7, 2018, 3:00 PM

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@warm river

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 3:01 PM

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Would say so

you mean, even at a consulting firm, it's also a bit too high?

humble kindle May 7, 2018, 3:01 PM

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I'm not sure about engineers, it's maybe higher indeed

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Now that I see it, according to this https://www.zeit.de/campus/zeit-germany/2017/01/getting-the-job-zeit-germany

ZEIT Campus

ZEIT Germany: Getting the job

With an unemployment rate below the 4-percent mark, Germany holds its appeal for young job seekers from all over the world. Five steps to getting a job in Europe’s largest economy.

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it's very high indeed, because apparently on average it's 48000

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Oh well, go on to the next job....

humble kindle May 7, 2018, 3:05 PM

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I know the feeling ^^'

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 3:06 PM

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You know any site whatsoever to see how to read the contracts and working terms (in Germany)?

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I mean, to see whether I'm actually getting screwed by my future company or if it's an okay deal.

tight kelp May 7, 2018, 3:07 PM

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https://www.payscale.com/research/DE/Country=Germany/Salary might be useful

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 3:09 PM

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thx Berzi

tight kelp May 7, 2018, 3:10 PM

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I had seen a nice report on IT jobs in germany not too long ago but I can't find it anymore :<

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Jeez, I think I asked for the moon when I said 60,000

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Should've just said 53000, and then go down from there as an entry-level...

alpine hollow May 7, 2018, 3:40 PM

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60.000€ is a bit much

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you can probably get that from Daimler or bmw

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but not from "lower" companies

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you can get more than entry level average cause you are in bawü

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but don't shoot too high

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average is pretty good if you can get it

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 4:00 PM

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What's "average", though? I thought that I should start next time by saying 53000 (and go down from there, I guess...)...or is that still too high as an average?
secondly, I just read from reddit, that some companies have a Tarifvertrag which basically dictates what the employees are supposed to be getting for money, vacation, etc, because the Union had negotiated for it.
thirdly, do you know any website on what to look out for in the contract's fine print?
and lastly.... @alpine hollow how're you doin, Luna? Long time no talk

alpine hollow May 7, 2018, 4:01 PM

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Tarifvertrag are for public companies like the state or krankenkassen

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oh

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nvm

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yeah

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some other have them too inside a company

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look up average for your bundesland

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 4:04 PM

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To be working at a consulting company....does it count as "Zeitarbeit" though? (It is kinda, right? Since it's project based and all...after 3 months you move away etc) My flatmate (still Bachelor student on his last year) says that's a good way for a Berufeinstieg to the well-established companies like Daimler, BMW, etc...

But I met a dude who was my Mitfahrer, and he basically told me that Zeitarbeit (from the Arbeitsagentur at least) is basically modern day slavery, and I shouldn't count on that. He seems to be a well off Project Manager around 28 yo I think....

what do you think, Luna?

alpine hollow May 7, 2018, 4:05 PM

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get a full time contract

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consulting is full time

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 4:06 PM

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👍

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Btw, found a good one https://www.absolventa.de/karriereguide/arbeitsentgelt/einstiegsgehalt

Das verdienen Hochschulabsolventen 2018

Aktuelle Zahlen zum Einstiegsgehalt von Hochschulabsolventen und Akademikern.

warm river May 7, 2018, 5:54 PM

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@warped atlas I'm consultant in Munich, Bavaria which has a higher income than BaWü. Personally I'd ask for 50000 in your situation

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It's probably still high but they'll lower it anyways

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A friend of mine asked for 60000 as well as master with no experience. It got lowered a lot to but she got the job back then. So don't give up hope

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As reference, I'm a bachelor student, business informatics and asked for 48000 two years back

warped atlas May 7, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Thx for the reference!!!! @warm river

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:07 PM

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So what are the laws regarding downloading music in Germany

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meaning, can i download something off of youtube or?

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:11 PM

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yeah

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apparently you get a cease and desist if you torrent a lot of stuff

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Soooo im fine to download a couple songs that i cant get in america? Oder soll ich das nicht machen?

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:14 PM

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why would it matter where one can't get the songs? If you're in germany you're subject to german law

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downloading from youtube isn't a crime anyway

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:15 PM

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Thats what I was ondering

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because I know the laws are stricter here

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And meaning if I cant even listen to them in America, itd be nice to download them here since I can

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:16 PM

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they're stricter when it comes to p2p downloading, but I never heard of anyone getting so much as a warning for downloading from youtube

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:17 PM

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so its mostly p2p then. ok, I dont have to worry then. Thanks!

nova creek May 8, 2018, 5:27 PM

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Movies you cant =\

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:29 PM

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eh, i just want the songs i cant get in america because they decided to landlock it

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:33 PM

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cough cough VPNs

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:37 PM

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im lazy

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lol

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:40 PM

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Opera has a built in one

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:41 PM

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I know. like Im really lazy

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I know how to do it in the back end of things

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but like

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i dont care enough

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:46 PM

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I mean, with opera you can just click a button and listen to songs that are blocked in your country

📎 12041daca37aa5151278f692e58416c7.png

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it's less of a hassle than downloading stuff from youtube, surely xD

exotic barn May 8, 2018, 5:47 PM

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You're allowed to download songs off youtube in Germany

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:47 PM

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i like putting stuff on my phone

short dock May 8, 2018, 5:47 PM

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that's cool i haven't heard of it before!

exotic barn May 8, 2018, 5:47 PM

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it falls under §53 UrhG

sand lotus May 8, 2018, 5:47 PM

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so i download

exotic barn May 8, 2018, 5:48 PM

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as long as it's for private use only, yes

tight kelp May 8, 2018, 5:48 PM

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i wonder, do you know the terms of what german laws regulates p2p?