general-2

[peak burrow]

id argue tho that everyone would still understand the ad if it were written correctly

[pallid kelp]

not sure. I think the average person would need a moment to understand what that letter is

and the last thing you want to do as a copywriter is making people think

[peak burrow]

i heard somewhere that the harder it is to read something the more likely youre gonna remember the content

provided you do actually read and eventually understand it

[opal sequoia]

@arctic atlas @nocturne frost Do you want to play a tts game with me and Milly sometime this week?

[nocturne frost]

oh yeahh, I thought we were doing secret hitler this weekend actually 😄

[arctic atlas]

^

[celest linden]

👀

[opal sequoia]

Oh, you didn't tell me about it.

And we should play Pandemic.

[nocturne frost]

no no its what I thought was happening, I just assumed too

also yesssss

please 🙏

[opal sequoia]

Assumed how?

[arctic atlas]

we pinged you about it like 2 weeks ago or so 👀

but I'm also fine with other stuff

[opal sequoia]

Did we make a date?

[arctic atlas]

well apparently not

so we do some stuff tomorrow ?

[nocturne frost]

sounds good

[acoustic bay]

when though?

[nocturne frost]

I'm good with evening, I've made plans for the whole day tomorrow

you got work millie?

[acoustic bay]

Yes.

[nocturne frost]

naw damn, wanna chill with it after?

[opal sequoia]

With what?

[nocturne frost]

the game 😄

[opal sequoia]

Oh I see.

[arctic atlas]

doesn't she get off work at 1am or so ? 😩

[opal sequoia]

Tell me how many hours from now.

[acoustic bay]

You don't have to change the date for me!

[nocturne frost]

yeah it entirely depends on what ya'll are ok with, I can stay up til 6am or so that evening if its better for millchen

[acoustic bay]

(I wasn't even invited to Syros Party anyway )

[arctic atlas]

to my party ?

[opal sequoia]

TTS party.

What was already planned before.

[arctic atlas]

@acoustic bay hey wanna come

there I fixxed it

[opal sequoia]

Danke.

But if Milly's there, I refuse to participate.

[arctic atlas]

lmao

[acoustic bay]

Depends. Will there be popcorn?

Wow.

Pfff.

[opal sequoia]

There will be popcorn but it will be made from geckos.

[acoustic bay]

Schleich dich, Kellerdenkweise

[arctic atlas]

sagt bescheid wenn ihr mit eurem ehestreit fertig seid

[opal sequoia]

[acoustic bay]

Erst, wenn er endlich die Garage aufräumt.

Das verspricht er mir schon seit Monaten.

[opal sequoia]

Wir haben keine Garage weil du nicht genug arbeitest.

But if you play Pandemic with me I will forgive you.

[acoustic bay]

Es ist kein Palast, aber es ist ein Zuhause, okay?!

[opal sequoia]

Nein. 😄

Nokay.

[acoustic bay]

Okay. Deal.

fertig @arctic atlas

[arctic atlas]

wann bist du wieder zuhause morgen

[acoustic bay]

Um 1 Uhr ungefähr. Aber es ist echt okay, wenn ihr ohne mich spielt. Ich weiß, dass meine Arbeitszeit für sowas doof ist.

[arctic atlas]

wenn ich vorher schlafen kann ist es ok

[opal sequoia]

Sunday night for you, right?

[arctic atlas]

yup

[opal sequoia]

Okay, seems good.

[acoustic bay]

Dato

[tame summit]

Hallo alle, wie geht's? Mein Deutsch ist nicht gut, aber ich lerne 😂

[midnight coral]

Scheint mir gar nicht so schlecht zu sein.

[tame summit]

Oh, danke. Ich habe vielleicht nicht genug zu sehen.

I had to use GTrans for that second sentence 😂

ANd I just realized how it's wrong.

Ich have nicht genug gesagt, um vielleicht zu sehen.

[midnight coral]

Ja, jetzt kann ich dich aber nicht mehr wirklich verstehen.

[tame summit]

Oh toll 😂 I don't even know if I'm saying that right.

I haven't been that serious about learning, I've just been doing it slowly.

I like to see the progress though, since I can half understand what peoplesay.

[midnight coral]

What did you want to say, exactly?

[tame summit]

"I haven't seen enough to see maybe."

Which is ironic since that sentence is where you saw how bad I was 😂

[midnight coral]

That doesn’t even really make sense in English, though.

[tame summit]

Man, I must be having a stroke.

I meant "I haven't talked enough to see maybe."

[midnight coral]

Ich habe nicht genug geredet, um das vielleicht zu sehen.

Like this.

[tame summit]

Ah, alright, thanks.

[raven moss]

yeah i think even in English it would make more sense to say maybe at the start of the sentence but it's a little slangier (at least in English) to put it anywhere

[livid tangle]

es nehme nicht lange zu Irene hassen.

Is this sentence correct? :)

[proper remnant]

es nehme nicht lange zu Irene hassen.

I do not understand.

[livid tangle]

It doesn't take long to hate Irene.

That's what I'm trying to say.

[proper remnant]

Es braucht nicht lange, um die Irene zu hassen.

[livid tangle]

Irene is a name, so is it okay to put an article before it?

[proper remnant]

Der Markus und die Maria haben oft mit mir gesprochen.

U can also say:
Markus und Maria haben oft mit mir gesprochen

Which is more common

[livid tangle]

Ah okay! Thank you so much for explaining it to me!

[livid tangle]

sie möchte in einer  kurzer Zeit eine Architektin werden.

Is this correct?

[proper remnant]

kurzen*

Sie*

the rest is ok

[livid tangle]

Ok
Thanks for correcting, once again! 😀 ☺

[pallid kindle]

Nice name @proper remnant

[desert pecan]

wollte nen neuen akku kaufen und plötzlich

[hot cloak]

Wer will deutsche Witze hören?

[midnight coral]

Manche Dialekte benutzen oft einen Artikel vor Namen, aber ich würde nicht sagen, dass es standard ist.

[torpid seal]

...

[hot cloak]

xd

[empty meadow]

Guten Abend!

[tropic gulch]

Guten Abend Snowflake, wie geht's?

[midnight coral]

Morgen? Wo lebst du denn?

[still bobcat]

Ich denke Hawaii oder Australien

[hot cloak]

in AUS ist gerade 7 oder so

[tropic gulch]

Ich komme aus Australien, es ist 7:24 Uhr

[peak burrow]

Jo hier in Österreich ists erst 7

[hot cloak]

immer diese össis 😔

[peak burrow]

Össi: halb ossi, halb ösi

Trifft auf mich ganz gut zu

[hot cloak]

[acoustic bay]

Mami, besitzt du auch ein Mascherl?

[hot cloak]

oh gott milly

[acoustic bay]

Das ist eine essentielle Frage!

[hot cloak]

Also wir wissen auf jeden Fall schon mal, dass jeder Hund über eine verfügt :^)

[acoustic bay]

Unklar bleibt jedoch, ob er das gute Stück nun um Hals oder Haarsträhnchen trägt.

[hot cloak]

Oh stimmt, das müssen wir noch in Erfahrung bringen

[peak burrow]

Jo Milly, ich hab ab und an eins gebraucht

[surreal brook]

Hallo

Wie geht es euch?

[hot cloak]

nicht so gut

😔

[acoustic bay]

Das macht mich glücklicher als du dir vorstellen kannst, Mami 💛

[peak burrow]

Ich hab sogar zwei

Ein schwarzes und ein kariertes

[acoustic bay]

💛

[vocal cosmos]

Hallo wie geht's euch

[peak burrow]

Erinner mich daran eins anzuziehen falls wir uns je mal treffen

[late reef]

ein paar fehler machen so wexen die taeterakten

[hot cloak]

sagen Nichtspanischsprachler auch "mami"?

das ist merkwürdig

[lunar pawn]

Nein, was passiert ist, dass Cousin, Mamimus heißt, und das, abgekürzt ist Mami

Ich denke sie wahrscheinlich nicht wissen wie Mami auf Spanisch gebraucht wird

[hot cloak]

😮

[peak burrow]

Wer ist Cousin Mamimus

[feral orchid]

@crude forge

@leaden totem

[crude forge]

@feral orchid yes?

[feral orchid]

nah i jus meant to move the Bac convo here

btw whats Bac?

[crude forge]

Bac = Abitur

Bac isn't a german word

[acoustic bay]

How do you feel about TTS today? @arctic atlas @nocturne frost :>

[gusty rock]

le Baccalauréat is french :7

[nocturne frost]

I might be home late, idk how long you all wanna stay up

[warm geyser]

Moin.

Welt.

[little helm]

fmt.Println("Hallo Welt!")

[warm geyser]

@little helm Hallo.

[little helm]

Wie geht's?

[warm geyser]

@little helm Danke, gut.

Alles in Ordnung?

[warm geyser]

😭

[hot cloak]

@acoustic bay can I still tag along, provided youre not starting too late? 👀

[little helm]

@warm geyser Entschuldigung. Ich bin immer noch bei der Arbeit 😕

Ich mache Überstunden heute.

[warm geyser]

@little helm Viel Spaß beim Arbeiten.

[little helm]

Heh, danke.

[acoustic bay]

Oh of course, always @hot cloak 💛

[hot cloak]

[arctic atlas]

@acoustic bay I have work tomorrow so nope

[acoustic bay]

Oh okay, I'm sorry :/ @arctic atlas

[arctic atlas]

Either friday or saturday

[nocturne frost]

@acoustic bay is it still happening?

[solemn gull]

@shy anchor 🐷

[shy anchor]

No u 😠

🐷

[solemn gull]

U 😠

[shy anchor]

Why are we in allgemein

😠

[solemn gull]

I'm going to sleep in an hour

Cause other people are having chat in general

[shy anchor]

😠

[solemn gull]

And I didn't think it warrant derailing the chat with 🐷 @shy anchor

😠

It was hot here today

78

[shy anchor]

That's not too bad

[solemn gull]

😠

At least it wasn't a wet heat

One day back at work and I'm ready for the 4th

[shy anchor]

This was your first day back at work?

[solemn gull]

Yeah lol

I took a nap and now I think it's thu

Tue

How long did Maine last?

[shy anchor]

I've been home for a week now

I thought you've been home?

[solemn gull]

I was in the US since Wednesday

But only got home yesterday

Was in LA

Cause we don't have directs here in San Diego

Is work any better since your break?

[shy anchor]

Ah ok

Same old stuff lol

How bout you

[solemn gull]

I have work, but I'm going to measure it out

I feel like working though so that's good

The 4th is on s Thursday

[shy anchor]

Yeah I'm prob gonna take that Friday off to extend the weekend

[solemn gull]

🐷

[shy anchor]

No u 😠

🐷

[solemn gull]

@shy anchor 🐷

[acoustic bay]

War dann wohl selbst für mich zu spät gestern... Sorry!
Ich finde Syros Vorschlag mit Freitag aber gut, da hab ich nämlich frei. @nocturne frost @hot cloak @arctic atlas @opal sequoia

[nocturne frost]

klingt super

[hot cloak]

Joa, könnte klappen :)

[nocturne frost]

soweit ich weiss, mochten alex und mami mitspielen

[arctic atlas]

👍

[hot cloak]

Haben wir dafür noch genügend Platz?

[nocturne frost]

glaub schon

[frigid sigil]

oooo was macht ihr

[arctic atlas]

SH geht mit bis zu 10

[acoustic bay]

Kommt ja ganz drauf an, welches Spiel wir spielen wollen.

[nocturne frost]

falls ne, wir können uns abwechseln

hab kein problem ein paar runden auszusetzen

(aussetzen == sit out?)

[hot cloak]

passt

[nocturne frost]

(kA, I just used some bullshit word I made up)

[arctic atlas]

ist aber richtig

[acoustic bay]

Ich hab ein paar nice games gespeichert, die man auch mit größeren Gruppen spielen kann. Sollte also absolut kein Problem sein!

[hot cloak]

supi

[arctic atlas]

ja wir sind defintiv nicht zu viele

[nocturne frost]

@acoustic bay monopolgy ❤

[acoustic bay]

monopology is my fav

[nocturne frost]

YEET

@acoustic bay did I tell you of the time I made a cake, bought it to a game night

and started buying off buildings with the cake

[acoustic bay]

LOL

wtf

[rich hatch]

hahahahha

[nocturne frost]

if it works it works 💅

[acoustic bay]

Ich glaube, dass ich Monopoly vor über 15 Jahren zuletzt gespielt habe

[craggy marsh]

Genius

[nocturne frost]

wzffff

[arctic atlas]

we're not gonna let you win this easily this time

[nocturne frost]

millie wzf

come, auf gehts

[rich hatch]

idk i am easily bribed by cake

if you aint gonna do so syro, well, your loss

[craggy marsh]

I mean Monopoly is a really bad game

[arctic atlas]

[craggy marsh]

So I have no qualms about sacrificing its rules for delicious cake

[nocturne frost]

@acoustic bay COMING OVER 😭

YOU DESERVE BETTER FRIENDS 😭

[rich hatch]

how about just bringing food and eating it together instead

screw monopoly

[nocturne frost]

that too

ok but

monopoly + food

[rich hatch]

Point.

[craggy marsh]

You could play sushi go

[acoustic bay]

Hahaha wir spielen einfach immer Pandemic, weil's einfach more awesome ist

[craggy marsh]

Or I dunno candy land

[acoustic bay]

Oooh yeah, Sushi zusammen selbst machen

[craggy marsh]

Jap

[arctic atlas]

I just hope it doesn't end up like the game night in vienna where nobody focused on the game reee

[acoustic bay]

Ohhh

[nocturne frost]

ohhh millie :D

[acoustic bay]

I'm a competitive player in everything I do

[rich hatch]

oh lol syro

tbf it was fun anyway

[nocturne frost]

@arctic atlas we werre tired, most of us got up at 3am

[rich hatch]

so who cares

[acoustic bay]

I'm basically competitive in breathing

[nocturne frost]

@acoustic bay same, lets team up, I'll bring cake

[arctic atlas]

tell me about it heckie :D

[acoustic bay]

LEZZGO

[nocturne frost]

next time tho lmao

[hot cloak]

if youre competitive about monopoly, I can link you to an algorithm that lets you win every time lmao

[nocturne frost]

pfhaha

typical cs student

we're actually doing board game nights for augusts vienna

[arctic atlas]

ok 0x1 is not gonna play with us I guess 😒

[hot cloak]

people stopped playing monopoly with me because of that 😔

lmfaoo not here too

[acoustic bay]

I'm listening 👀 @hot cloak

[nocturne frost]

@arctic atlas its not too late to cancel and come 😌

[arctic atlas]

I already paid for it, it's too late :/

[nocturne frost]

peepy sob

[hot cloak]

http://www.amnesta.net/monopoly/
https://imgur.com/gallery/vX3zm

theres also a history bg here http://www.amnesta.net/monopoly/index2.html

[acoustic bay]

[nocturne frost]

[acoustic bay]

I thought about becoming a competitive 'Das verrückte Labyrinth' player.

[arctic atlas]

ok gotta go back to work
see you later ♥

[acoustic bay]

Bye 💛

[nocturne frost]

enjoy work

[hot cloak]

work

[nocturne frost]

earning money to save and/or provide for yourself

[hot cloak]

yeah who needs that tbh

[acoustic bay]

Now that I have tenure... honestly, what even is work?

[celest linden]

Work is for stinky work people

[arctic atlas]

und noch eine eiskugel weniger 😔

[celest linden]

Äh

Ähhh

*except Cuddly Cuddlewuddle Syro 🤗

Syro no big stinko worko

[arctic atlas]

ich weiß ja nicht 😒

[celest linden]

Also ich finde, dass ich mir dafür eine Extra-Eiskugel verdient habe

[arctic atlas]

na gut dann bist du jetzt bei 2

allerdings ohne waffel

[celest linden]

Grr, einverstanden :^) Die kommt schon noch

[raven laurel]

sagt mal wieviel boosts hat der server eigentlich? ich sehe die discord partner ikone aber ich hab gehofft wir kriegen 50 neue emojis

[arctic atlas]

wir sind bei 5

[raven laurel]

level 1?

[hot cloak]

Jap

[peak burrow]

SMASH that m'fucking boost button!

Can we hit 150 emotes?

[sudden panther]

We can if someone buys 5 more nitros.

[pallid kelp]

i will smash if someone buys me nitro

i will not buy it myself because i have better use for dat moni

[raven hull]

Ich will Monopoly gewinnen

[peak burrow]

The only way to win monopoly is not to play

Worst game known to man

[languid heron]

No one wins in monopoly

[rancid agate]

i do win when i sit there with 30000M and my opponent is broke

[pallid kelp]

you still lost by having played it

[peak burrow]

I wish society hadnt forgotten the fact where monopoly was supposed to be an enjoyable game

[rancid agate]

what did i lose

[peak burrow]

Monopoly is a perfect way to demonstrate opportunity costs

You could have done anything

And it would all have been better than playing monopoly

[languid heron]

@rancid agate All your friends

No one will want to play monopoly with you anymore, because you’ll be too good

[peak burrow]

Saying youre good a monopoly is like saying youre good at rock paper scissors

There is a very light element of strategy but in the end its mostly Chance anyway

[rancid agate]

@languid heron i never had any to begin with

[languid heron]

Then who do you play monopoly with?

[peak burrow]

I can see why

[rancid agate]

lol

i just randomly played monopoly with a random guy at school

because there was literally nothing better to do

[gusty rock]

and did you win?

[rancid agate]

yes

as i said above i had like 30kM

[peak burrow]

Money amounts in monopoly mean nothing if we dont know the version

[gusty rock]

wait M?

[peak burrow]

I think all monopoly currency should be converted into stadard edition dollars for scientific discussions

[gusty rock]

lol we've monopoly banking and it uses no currency i think

just 'numbers'

[peak burrow]

P sure the standard Version uses actual euros

I know my dad's uses dm

[rancid agate]

all monopolys ive ever seen use an M with a dash

[gusty rock]

haha my grandma has an old version with schillingen xD

but yeah prly its euros in the new versions

[hot cloak]

Some monopoly Europe versions use actual euros, afaik

[gusty rock]

am besten ist monopoly immer noch mit echtem Geld amirite 👀

[hot cloak]

Dann weiß man wenigstens, was man verliert :^)

[peak burrow]

Ich hab nochmal nachgeschaut

Die stadartedition benutzt echte Währungen

[rancid agate]

🤔

ich kenn es nur mit einem obskuren M als währungssymbol das nirgendwo einen namen kriegt

[peak burrow]

Tja du bist halt ein junges bürschchen

Zu meiner Zeit haben wir Monopoly mit RM gespielt

[rancid agate]

lol

[gusty rock]

xD

kauf dir ein Grundstück in Polen

[peak burrow]

Ich Frage mich ob pre-1990 monopolys in der Deutschland edition polnische Gebiete hatten

[hot cloak]

Ne wahrscheinlich gab's da nur die All Around the World Edition :^)

[rancid agate]

pre-1990 wahrscheinlich nicht, pre-1945 vielleicht

[gusty rock]

xD solang gibts aber monopoly noch nicht

[hot cloak]

Wurde erstmals 1933 veröffentlicht

[rancid agate]

aber auch in ahem deutschland?

[hot cloak]

Soweit ich das aus Wikipedia entnehmen kann schon

[peak burrow]

Joa aber die BRD hat ja die polnischen Gebiete auch beansprucht

Also die die auch vor hortler da waren

[hot cloak]

Vielleicht gehe ich nächstes Jahr Deutsch studieren

Mein Deutsch ist momentan noch immer sehr schlecht aber whatever

Würde vielleicht noch einem toller ride sein

Aber wenn ich wirklich etwas erreichen möchte, muss ich viel und viel mehr üben

[hot cloak]

@quiet tangle lust auf lol?

[quiet tangle]

Nein

[hot cloak]

Wollt ihr was Gutes zum Lesen? (C Niveau)

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost @sudden panther @celest robin ahhhhhhhhrg

[sudden panther]

Congrats Suzers.

[rich hatch]

ohhh

[acoustic bay]

Congratulations, Suzu!

[hot cloak]

I still gotta take an exam, dont congrats me yet

[rich hatch]

you are gonna nail it anyway so congrats

[hot cloak]

Thanks

[sudden panther]

Ah pls it's a meme thing, as if you won't pass that.

[nocturne frost]

well done suzuuu

[sudden panther]

Though I must say I hope your chemistry skills are better than your CS skills. I was able to undo your black-out thing and find out your real name.

[peak burrow]

[nocturne frost]

you're gonna do so good babe

[peak burrow]

Doxx😤

[sudden panther]

She deserved it.

[hot cloak]

Me being gay is nothing new tho arrem

[sudden panther]

No, but now we have it on paper.

[celest robin]

@hot cloak grats!

[hot cloak]

Thanks Lau! c:

[arctic atlas]

Freut mich @hot cloak :3 Musst du für den test noch mal dahin ?

[hot cloak]

Ich denke schon lol

[arctic atlas]

Rip

[gentle onyx]

Heyo

[hot cloak]

EXQUIIIIII

how is you???

[gentle onyx]

SUUZU

Today is a nice day I can stay home I made myself pudding and I finished the second part of my pond yesterday

@hot cloak how are u

[rich hatch]

finished pond

Oh wow what

[gentle onyx]

😃

Now it has a little plant part

[rich hatch]

wow

pics?

[hot cloak]

So cute, i love it!!! 😻😻

What about the pudding, any pics?

[rich hatch]

it looks great!
wonderful job, exqui!

[gentle onyx]

Of cause

[hot cloak]

What flavor?

[gentle onyx]

And there’s more

Vanilla

[hot cloak]

It kinda looks like Quark 🤔

[gentle onyx]

But it tastes nice

[hot cloak]

I believe that 😩👌

[gentle onyx]

🤤

[raven hull]

@lilac dew found your introduction on a Japanese server

[pallid kelp]

ばれた :0

[peak burrow]

@hot cloak gimme a name please

[rancid agate]

Heute wird nicht mehr die Geldeinheit „€“ verwendet, sondern der „Monopoly-Dollar“, ein M mit 2 horizontalen Querstrichen. In den USA wird dagegen immer noch das „$“-Zeichen verwendet. In älteren deutschen und Schweizer Ausgaben betrugen die Beträge das zwanzigfache. sag ich doch, komisches M

[hot cloak]

@peak burrow savage sewage name receiver

[peak burrow]

[hot cloak]

nice name 😉 😻

[lilac dew]

@raven hull love that

[raven hull]

What why

[lilac dew]

idk you found me

congrats babe

[raven hull]

Oh

Kool

[hot cloak]

Kühl

[primal helm]

Let's continue @hidden garnet So what did you say please?

nope they wont

we have permission

in this channel

[lavish saddle]

You don't have permission to keep chatting about this topic, no

[primal helm]

-_-''

[lavish saddle]

I said to move to these channels to have a normal convo

or use dms

[primal helm]

lol

probably

I heard berlin is a good place for Ausländer

exactly

yep

[hot cloak]

thats not the problem here, this server is simply not the place to talk about hitler and the like. We're a language server after all

[primal helm]

nobody is talking about hitler

he was giving an example about Kamrade word

a simple word

I love when my fav german youtuber say Jawohl

I see

it's sad because they shouldn't be. It was a bad time for everyone, and everyone made mistakes

[arctic atlas]

Once again, this is not about censorship

[primal helm]

it is

[arctic atlas]

It‘s simply out of scope and not appropriate

You‘re free to talk about in DMs

[primal helm]

but moving to DM's will give us the censorship point

anywyas, Amadeus please send us the answer in DM

[hot cloak]

Alright, let me make myself clear then. The topic is censored, we asked you to stop, if you won't we'll ban you

It's as easy as that

[rich hatch]

Why is this a problem lol?
Do you, like, think that censorship is some sort of elemental evil and discussion always benefit from being free for all thunderdomes?

I think that if you don't understand the need for people to choose their words appropriately to environment, you are still a child, no matter how old are you.

Like, there is a reason, for example, scientific publications - the ur-example of merit-first environment - censor quality of submissions heavily. Because it makes quality of what passes through better.

There are cases where censorship is bad, naturally. But to prove the claim of it being bad in this particular case, you have to defend your position on it, as opposed to just crying "censorship" and expecting it to be an argument in and of itself.

You don't, but nobody really cares about it being censored per se, unless you give us a valid reason to think that this particular case is a bad thing.

The topic is censored, we asked you to stop, if you won't we'll ban you
Probably because of this.
I share part of the fault for accidentally provoking him to keep going, I suppose.

[lavish saddle]

It wasn't your fault ctulhi

[rich hatch]

No, it was not. I do not do baiting, not when I am entering a serious discussion.

[lavish saddle]

it was a mod team decision

[rich hatch]

Yeah, but it was inconsiderate of me to start talking about the topic to a person who was explicitly asked to stop or risk expulsion, because he could not respond without getting banned, not really.
And arguing with a person who cannot respond is quite rude. And dumb.

[lavish saddle]

Sorry, our bans are permanent

[primal helm]

this was unnecessary. I know he will learn with this and grow up as a person. A permanent ban is not a solution when he was expressing his opinion.

[hot cloak]

you're entitled to your opinion but that won't change the outcome of our ban

[primal helm]

yes I know

but isn't permanent a way too long time to be banned?

[hot cloak]

all of our bans are permanent, for everything else we have temp-lock outs

[primal helm]

I see..

[hot cloak]

now, I'd prefer if you all stopped discussing his ban

[rich hatch]

Got it.

[hot cloak]

means universal

[arctic atlas]

lk de en Allgemein

[viral thunder]

Translations for Allgemein

1. generally
2. generic
3. general
4. public
5. nationwide
6. universal
7. commonly
8. universally
9. abstract
10. global

Confused? React with ℹ for more info.

Page 1/2 (20 entries)

[rich hatch]

According to #282831147942281216 (as description of channel refers to it):

#allgemein Tired of #general? Go here and chat with others.
#nur-deutsch This channel is meant for conversations in German only. ```

I believe that #general-2 is supposed to be the channel of #german-only - lite. So, it's preferable to use German, but you can use English if you cannot phrase it in German properly.

Oh wait.

[hot cloak]

ye

I see people speaking almost all languages other than German in this channel

[rich hatch]

na ja, du hast recht >_>

[peak burrow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

just because its that way doesnt mean its supposed to be like that

[warm geyser]

#general Wir sind nicht so geil.

😄

[compact abyss]

Hallo]

[zenith flint]

@warm geyser Schön dich hier zu sehen.

[wary sigil]

Hello, where can I get certain roles to get tagged in #lessons ?

[arctic atlas]

groups

[viral thunder]

These groups are currently accessible

• Grammar - Lessons! Subscribe for pings.
• Reading - Lessons! Subscribe for pings.
• Advancedreading - Like Reading but only B2+ level content.
• Coding - For all the coding nerds.
• Food - A group for food talks.
• Gaming - All gaming-related topics.
• Science - STEM-related topics.
• Sciencepractice - For solving science problems.
• Translation - Offers weekly sentences to translate.
• Writing - Join to get weekly and monthly prompts!

Type >sub to join a group or >group joinall to join all available groups .

[arctic atlas]

@wary sigil

[wary sigil]

Danke schön!

[warm geyser]

@zenith flint Danke.

[arctic atlas]

@timid fern @opaque fossil do you need both accounts?

[livid tangle]

Kein Geldbetrag hat jemals eine Sekunde die Zeit gekauft

Is this correct? ^^

[pallid kindle]

der Zeit(genitive) @livid tangle I think

[livid tangle]

Oh right! Thank you so much!! 😄 😃

[hot cloak]

@livid tangle I think what you mean is "Kein Geld der Welt hat jemals auch nur eine Sekunde erkaufen können."

"No money of the world has ever been able to buy even a second of time"

Your sentence is not wrong, it's correct except what Peyami Safa mentioned (in terms of language)

[pallid kindle]

Oh sorry

[hot cloak]

@pallid kindle you're right, don't worry 😄

[livid tangle]

@hot cloak Wow. That sentence is far too complex for me lol. What is that clause called? Also, what does auch mean here? 😅 😀

[opal sequoia]

This is just a normal main clause but it looks more complicated than it is because it has some words/phrasing that beginners might not learn about.

[livid tangle]

Ooh. I thought it was a different clause because it has 3 verbs. Anyway, thank you both so much!! ☺ 😀

[opal sequoia]

It has a special type of verb structure called double infinitive. You don't need to know about it now but it's a very weird form that happens when you have the perfekt tense of modal verbs. @livid tangle

[hot cloak]

Yo, don't be teaching them to speak incorrectly, here's a guide https://www.colanguage.com/double-infinitive-german

[opal sequoia]

That seems like a good page but I still don't recommend a beginner to learn it, at least until they feel comfortable with other verb rules.

[hot cloak]

I really don't want to be an ass here, but why is my recommendation to not focus on cases from the getgo harmful (and the continuation of talking about it worthy of repercussions), but is the recommendation not to learn about the way verbs function from the getgo completely fine?

If anything, verbs are much more important than cases

[opal sequoia]

Because you have to learn grammar in layers. You start small and gradually build on top of that foundation.

Things that are niche, uncommon, or exceptions are often left until after you learn the common/basic rules.

Double infinitive is not needed a lot, and it is an exception. It makes no sense to learn an exception before learning the rule you're making an exception to.

Humans are only capable of learning so much. You can't instantly absorb all grammar in one day. You have to build it up one idea at a time.

And so there is a sensible order to learn these things.

[hot cloak]

Are you saying that not using the more difficult subjects in grammar correctly doesn't lead to having trouble doing it the correct way later?

[opal sequoia]

Yes, absolutely.

But learning cases incorrectly from the beginning leads to really bad habits.

Of course it's fine for beginners to make mistakes. Everyone makes mistakes. No one has to be perfect.

[hot cloak]

I quote "incorrect German which will then harm their ability to learn German as the difficulty increases."

Now you're claiming the opposite

[opal sequoia]

I'm not claiming the opposite at all. And I stand by that quote. If you learn the basics wrong, if your foundation is wrong, you will be very confused when the sentences get harder.

You start learning the basics with small sentences. Yes, the sentences might be understandable if you make a mistake. But if you don't learn the ideas in the beginning, you will be stuck having no idea what's going on later when you try to learn more complex stuff.

Because you will have no basis to fall back on.

[hot cloak]

The video I sent before showed a man learning Arabic from scratch without getting corrected or picking up a single textbook or loading a single online page of grammar up to fluency

[dusty idol]

@silk locust

[hot cloak]

It completely disproves your point (unless you think the video is fake)

I'd argue that Arabic is much harder for an English speaker to learn than German as well

[opal sequoia]

It doesn't completely disprove anything. One person made a video about one person learning a language a particular way. That's great for him, if the video is real. It has no bearing on reality though.

[hot cloak]

Yeah, by denying it that way there's really no point to this at all, there's countless of people who learned a language by the method I described and fully documented examples of individuals doing so can't get you to admit that it's actually not harmful at all. I could just as well say "Hey, there's people who learned a language by studying grammar all day, but that doesn't mean it works for everyone."

[tardy topaz]

One can learn a language with no lessons, that's the way how immigrants learn

But it may be much longer and you still can be not fluent after many years

[opal sequoia]

Yes, you can learn with no lessons, absolutely.

But yes, learning without any understanding of grammar usually leads to very broken German.

[tardy topaz]

Exactly

[hot cloak]

There's literally 7 billion people on this planet who've learned to speak a language fluently by the method I described, you included

[tardy topaz]

At least, may lead to that

[hot cloak]

Unless you're saying you didn't speak any language and your parents put a grammar book under your nose when you were a 4 year old

[opal sequoia]

Toddlers and adults learn differently.

[tardy topaz]

Yes, but learning a mother tongue differs from learning another language

[hot cloak]

Because you use a different method, sure their grey matter is more kneadable, that doesn't matter in this method, though

[fringe tartan]

I mean, I learned English the same way I learned my mother tongue

[hot cloak]

Me too

And I'm fluent, believe it or not

[fringe tartan]

But English is an exception

[hot cloak]

No, it isn't?

Why would it be?

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, I can't comment on English as I'm a native speaker. I can only comment on German.

[tardy topaz]

I mean, that method can be fruity and lead to become fluent but most people learn step by step, grammar and vocab, and can achieve that as well, probably faster

[fringe tartan]

Because you can't go anywhere without seeing English

[opal sequoia]

And for German, everyone I've met who has tried to learn it without understanding the basics of grammar has had a really awful time.

[fringe tartan]

Exposing yourself to German is WAY more difficult

[tardy topaz]

If we talk about English I can agree but you still can use broken English

[hot cloak]

Check the videos I posted in #questions @tardy topaz

[opal sequoia]

Every person I've talked to who claims you can learn German by avoiding grammar has remained around A1 for a long time and never improved.

[hot cloak]

The method is proven to be faster than other methods

[tardy topaz]

For exmaple, conditionals in English

With no lessons maybe I would still not know to use them properly

[fringe tartan]

Conditionals?

What are those?

[hot cloak]

Why do you argue against the experiences of "one person" one moment and then make an anecdotal argument yourself the other moment, Base?

The method I'm arguing for doesn't say you can't learn grammar at all, it just says you should only start looking into grammar once you're already fluent

Just to iron out the last bits

[fringe tartan]

I disagree

Learning grammar has REALLY helped my learning

[opal sequoia]

@hot cloak Because, I am meeting your logical fallacy equally. Both of us can cite anecdotal experiences about this.

[tardy topaz]

@fringe tartan, when you don't eat long enough, you are hungry -> 0 conditional
when you learn enough, you will get a good mark -> 1. conditional
etc.

[hot cloak]

Except one anecdotal experience actually proves that something doesn't have to be harmful and yours only gives examples of people who didn't learn anything by the same method, we still have proof that it does not have to be harmful

[opal sequoia]

Sorry but a youtube video is not proof*

And I think this discussion is not going anywhere.

So let's end it here.

[hot cloak]

Yeah, that dude who has a PhD of surely is lying on the internet for fame

Those 20.000 views are really important to him

He's not even selling anything?

Why would he lie?

[tardy topaz]

I think learning a language is too complex to say surely which method is the most effective

It depends on a person

[opal sequoia]

Absolutely, Thingoln.

[hot cloak]

You can literally see him speaking with hundreds of people and traveling through an Arabic speaking country, speaking the language with people

[opal sequoia]

Everyone learns differently. But encouraging people to learn broken German is still not okay, even then. 😄

[hot cloak]

Definitely a hoax

[opal sequoia]

No one has claimed it is a hoax, Zerhacker. Only that it is not justification for bad learning methods.

[dreamy gyro]

By all means learn the language as Zerhacker's video suggested, but there will be people that have contrasting experiences to it. I don't really understand why there seems to be a debate for who is right here :/

[opal sequoia]

I also don't understand why.

[tardy topaz]

I have two friend who learnt a language by immersion, just hearing it around them 24/7

[hot cloak]

I didn't encourage anyone to learn broken German, you were just "calling me out" for encouraging harmful methods even though I posted multiple instances of people who argued for my case. If I were actually posting things like "Der Mann isst der Hund. is a correct sentence" you would have been completely fair, but now you're just saying "my opinion is the right one and other opinions aren't allowed in this server"

What makes your opinion better than mine?

[opal sequoia]

Not at all. Feel free to share your opinions on learning methods.

I will only step in if it's something blatantly false or harmful.

Otherwise, you are free to discuss as you please.

[hot cloak]

You just gave two examples where the method I'm arguing for was actually succesful, it's just that the one guy who became fluent but still makes mistakes still has polishing to do, Thingoln

[dreamy gyro]

No one was saying it was impossible though

[hot cloak]

It's just that if you admit that it is possible, what about it makes it harmful?

Why would I be able to do it, but you wouldn't?

[dreamy gyro]

Because it's not recommended

There are many things you can do which are possible but they definitely aren't the recommended method

[opal sequoia]

Exactly.

[hot cloak]

It's recommended by professional linguist Steve Kaufmann, as well as others

[dreamy gyro]

And people might not find his methodology beneficial

[hot cloak]

I agree

That doesn't make it a harmful method

Which is what was being argued

[fringe tartan]

Agree with Hack here

[dreamy gyro]

Then I guess it's just a subjective thing of whether you think it is or isn't

[tardy topaz]

You may get bad habits

[fringe tartan]

And to be fair, where's your source for it not being the recommended method?

[tardy topaz]

And sometimes (I don't know if it is present in a language learning but may be) it is hard to change something you are used to

[hot cloak]

Stephen Krashen is another linguist who argues for the comprehensible input method

Kids make a billion mistakes until actually forming entire sentences and in the end they all turn out fine

[fringe tartan]

Do they claim that learning grammar is harmful to your learning?

The comprehensible input method?

[hot cloak]

Some do

But

[fringe tartan]

What's their source?

[hot cloak]

It's nuanced, it goes like this: learning it in the beginning stunts you because you're too focussed on things like getting the grammar correct to actually be interacting with the language in an effective way. It's been proven that just correcting someone on things (someone might say "Giving me the apple" instead of "Give me the apple" and then they'll be corrected by someone saying "It's Give me the apple") is one of the most ineffective ways of actually helping someone improve. They argue that if you get enough comprehensible input you'll be able to get it right anyway just by absorbing more information. If you pick up a grammar book after you're already more advanced and forming entire sentences it's no problem according to the comprehensible input method.

I think they have some sources in the very first video I sent (the longer documentary style one)

If you hear sentences like "Die Frau ist wunderschön" often enough in a context where you understand the sentence, you'll learn things like "ist" is used for the third person singular automatically without thinking about it, as opposed to just mashing tables of conjugations into your head

[dry blade]

There are dozens of different methods to learn a foreign language. Depending on the learner's goals and learning preferences, some methods will be more effective compared to others. A lot of people, credible and non-credible alike, present their own method as being better than the others in some way.

In the end, the good old fashioned method of sitting down with a textbook, a grammar, and a dictionary, and just going at it, has been tried and tested for centuries, and it will probably work for you too if you put the necessary effort in.

Most of the other 'modern' methods have serious drawbacks, and even if you're able to hold a conversation far sooner than a traditional learner, you're going to hit a massive roadblock if you don't at least have a basic grasp of grammar rules.

[dreamy gyro]

I get that, although the context in which you deliver it is equally as important, no? If someone kind of says the sentence offhandedly as native speakers are more often known to do to someone else "Die Frau ist wunderschön" the person on the receiving end would take a lot longer to comprehend what they're saying. This is coming from someone who does theatre with people who definitely do not speak English as their first language. Gesture and intonation help a lot in a speaking context anyway.

[hot cloak]

My method is actually older and has been in fashion much longer than the traditional methods. People in ancient times learned language of neighbouring countries without textbooks and without formal teaching, Abermals.

[dreamy gyro]

Writing/reading and speaking/listening are two very different skills though, right?

[hot cloak]

That's not exactly the way my method works, Luka.

The video explains it in a more nuanced manner.

[opal sequoia]

I would even say all 4 skills are very different and need to be practised individually. Add onto that grammar and vocabulary, for 6 things you need to uniquely practice.

[hot cloak]

The on I just gave is just an approximated/ shortened explaination.

[dry blade]

Sure, but the amount of input you need to learn a language this way is out of reach for most learners. Sitting at your computer and listening to youtube videos all day is not a substitute for actually living in the country of the language you're learning.

[dreamy gyro]

Agreed

[opal sequoia]

Absolutely. Even if you live in the country, while the input is definitely hugely beneficial, you probably still need to sit down and study part of the time.

[hot cloak]

Listening and speaking are the main things, writing and reading are easy once you know how to apply the first two skills

[dreamy gyro]

I can't really do much else than chat with Germans on Discord or watch things actively in German as I don't have the means to live in Germany

Whether we like it or not living in the country is just a more effective way of learning the language

[opal sequoia]

That's true.

[hot cloak]

750 hours of German to get to B2 fluency using the natural method according to the state department of the united states, that's about an hour a day for two years

Definitely not as crazy as you think it is

[dreamy gyro]

In theory sure but is that going to actually happen?

[hot cloak]

Yes

They didn't just pull some numbers out of their ass lol

[dreamy gyro]

I know that, that's not what I'm saying

[hot cloak]

https://www.state.gov/key-topics-foreign-service-institute/foreign-language-training/

[dreamy gyro]

They have numbers, but the individual human experience is different to the statistical mathematic experience

[hot cloak]

````The following language learning timelines reflect 70 years of experience in teaching languages to U.S. diplomats, and illustrate the time usually required for a student to reach “Professional Working Proficiency” in the language, or a score of “Speaking-3/Reading-3” on the Interagency Language Roundtable scale. These timelines are based on what FSI has observed as the average length of time for a student to achieve proficiency, though the actual time can vary based on a number of factors, including the language learner’s natural ability, prior linguistic experience, and time spent in the classroom.```

How does 70 years of a lot of individual experiences piled up sound?

[dreamy gyro]

Okay, sure, have fun in the "Haha gotcha" moment, but it is still a statistic, not an guarantee.

[hot cloak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A4e-AMTMAM here's a good video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khgWtqGTsEE This one might be better

[opal sequoia]

I don't see any mention of the method in that link anyway.

[hot cloak]

Yeah, that's the wrong link, can't find the other one rn

Shouldn't really matter, though. There's a bunch of other informative links I posted

[dreamy gyro]

It's not the information I'm really too fussed about, it's just a bit less black and white than that is all I'm saying

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, agreed.

It's pretty much never a question of "all grammar" or "all immersion".

A normal learning program incorporates both as much as needed.

[dreamy gyro]

I usually have (from what I have available) immersion with spurts of grammar or vocab research when I feel up to it

[opal sequoia]

M'hm. Anything that keeps you motivated is definitely good.

And grammar is certainly not something people should feel forced to learn. But nearly every time someone is getting stuck and struggling, it's because they chose to avoid learning grammar.

That's just how it is.

[hot cloak]

TL% raise in education is actually a factor that has been on the rise for many years, with many professionals now teaching 80% or even 90% of their classes in the TL

[opal sequoia]

And if spending 5 minutes studying a grammar point can instantly clear up the confusion, it's obviously the best approach to that issue.

It's so much more efficient than forcing yourself to struggle through listening to sentences over and over and having no idea why your sentence is wrong while someone else's is correct.

[hot cloak]

Also I'm not arguing purely for immersion, you can live in a country for years and still not speak the language. Comprehensible input is all about creating moments in which you're actively interacting, observing and participating in many non-verbal ways

[opal sequoia]

Well, to be fair, you did say that people shouldn't learn grammar until they are fluent, lol.

[hot cloak]

Yes, and I'm still saying that

When people say immersion they think just watching a movie or reading a book is enough, but that's not at all what I'm arguing

[dreamy gyro]

Let's not go round in circles, it seems to have gone back on itself again.

[silk locust]

Whom pang

[opal sequoia]

Sorry, Luka. I was just trying to solidify the point of grammar in case anyone who's a beginner is reading this and trying to learn more about the process.

[silk locust]

Oh

[hot cloak]

5 minutes of studying grammar will clear up the confusion and then the person who's been corrected will make the mistake a thousand times more

[opal sequoia]

Not at all.

[hot cloak]

Niederbauer can affirm because we've told him per se is written per se a million times and he still writes per sé very often

[dreamy gyro]

@opal sequoia Nah it's chill I found it kinda funny to be honest but still

Good for Niederbauer, I guess

[opal sequoia]

I guess for me it's just the kind of information which is evident from experience. Most of the learners here will understand from experience the benefit of learning a rule instead of struggling with intuitive approaches. And many beginners who are here will have the same experiences in future.

And I look forward to it because it's very fun when everyone is helping each other better understand the language. 😄

And of course it's not always the case that you should learn a rule before learning intuitively. Different areas of languages are learned differently too.

[hot cloak]

If I may add another piece of anecdotal evidence, my mother speaks fluent German and she never learned any grammar either, she doesn't make grammatical mistakes and works in Germany as well. Just to at least get the "German is different from English because dae English easy lol" myth out of the way. (my mom definitely isn't some unbelievable genious)

I've gotta go to bed now.

[opal sequoia]

Sleep well.

[hot cloak]

Thanks, same to you

[dreamy gyro]

I wish I was your mother (in the learning German kinda way not actually be your mum)

But nighty night!

[opal sequoia]

👀

[hot cloak]

Ich habe einen LKW voller Fleisch und bin bereit, es zu liefern.

[acoustic bay]

Wohin?

[hot cloak]

Mallorca

[acoustic bay]

Und wie wird die Übersendung nach Mallorca stattfinden?

[hot cloak]

Ich habe noch keine Ahnung.

Es gibt nur wenige Leute, die mit einem LKW voller Fleisch umgehen können. Darum bin ich ausgewählt, der LKW zu fahren.

Aber ich dachte bis je noch nie darüber nach wie ich es schaffen sollte

[acoustic bay]

Klingt nach einer erfüllenden Aufgabe.

[hot cloak]

Es macht mir wohl Angst, denn ich habe gehört, dass sich viele Elfen nach dem Inhalt meines Trucks sehnen.

Magie erschreckt mich

[dry blade]

Wie bitte? Du hast einen LKW voller Fleisch? was habe ich denn hier verpasst 😆

[hot cloak]

Ja, ich habe einen LKW voller Fleisch, aber halte es geheim.

Der BND weiß nichts davon

[dry blade]

...bis du es hier offengelegt hast 😆

[hot cloak]

Nein ich benutze ein VPN 😎

[hot cloak]

VPN ist die gang

[elder nebula]

@opal sequoia gibt es hier einen Kanal, um über Mathematik zu sprechen?

[opal sequoia]

@elder nebula Ja, #science

Man kann >sub Science in #botchannel schreiben um ihn zu sehen.

[peak burrow]

Heyo lovely people! You might have seen this already over at #gaming but me and @nocturne frost are organizing a server tournament of the game Diplomacy, which we still need 2 more people for:

Diplomacy is a strategic board game set in 1900s Europe, which unlike other war games does away with randomness and complexity and lets players spend much of their time forming and betraying alliances with each other and forming beneficial strategies. It is uniquely suited to postal and web play where players don’t all have to present at the same time.

Diplomacy is a turn-based game in which everyone’s moves are resolved simultaneously. We would like our game to progress by one turn every 3 days, with players being able to submit their moves anywhere within those 3 days. Submission itself should take no longer than a few minutes, however certain turns might require communication with other players, which should not take more than an hour (it is possible to play this game with turns that last 15 minutes).

Because this game is interaction-focused, we would prefer players who are active on this discord. Since this is German learning server, communication in german is preferred but not required.

For any newcomers to the game we're gonna be holding one or more introductory sessions with example rounds/explanations to get you into the groove before we start.

If you are interested in claiming one of the two spots that are left or have any questions regarding this thing feel free to DM either me or @nocturne frost . Anybody at any level is welcome and it'd be an absolute pleasure to have you there!

[peak burrow]

Alrighty lads, it seems we have the 7 peeps we need!

[turbid mason]

Friendship ended between everybody playing

[nocturne frost]

now nobody is my best friend

[frigid sigil]

D:

ur my best fren billy

[nocturne frost]

wow nvm ;_; ❤

[frigid sigil]

❤️❤️❤️

[woeful fog]

Ayy ich habe meine Deutsche Prüfung gemacht, und es war sehr gut!!! Finally we've finished gcses

[coral sierra]

Sagt mal, wie kriege ich eigentlich diese "Role" in meinem Profil ? ^^

[pallid kelp]

#botchannel >gr Level A/B/C

Muttersprachler müssen den Mods fragen

[sudden panther]

#282831147942281216 zu lesen wär auch nicht schlecht.

[peak burrow]

Was ist das? Hab ich noch nie gesehen

[wary sigil]

Anyone knows some really good sources to learn vocabulary? I don't really like memrise (and duolingo is bad for learning words) [please tag me]

[desert badge]

explain resources

[viral thunder]

https://goo.gl/M906K8

[desert badge]

@wary sigil

some stuff in there for vocab

verbs etc

[wary sigil]

thank you

but not really what I was looking for :/

[desert badge]

Well if really wanna grind vocab you could turn apps you use like Steam, Spotify, your phone, Netflix etc into German and just learn vocab

I just try pickup vocab online then find some on vocab lists and add em to anki and learn them

[neon canopy]

@wary sigil tried Anki? Ankidroid on android

it's kind of like memrise though

except decks are user made

[wary sigil]

I'll try it. Thanks!

[warm gust]

@wary sigil Do you want to make Anki decks together?

I have to study a heck of a lot of vocabulary (DE-NL and NL-DE), including the plural forms. I started making it into Anki decks, but I gave up after two weeks or so

[wary sigil]

It is a Jens O:

And sure

I'll DM you

[wet cobalt]

schwäcke?

[hot cloak]

Schwäche

[wet cobalt]

thanks 😄

[mighty cradle]

How do I say "try spareroom.co.uk if it's just for a few months"? Responding to a German speaker in my area who's needing accomodation

[opal sequoia]

@mighty cradle Try it.

[mighty cradle]

I genuinely don't know any of those words except Monaten ?? I'm very new

I don't even think I've got that right

It's not for my learning I'm just helping someone out who might get homeless otherwise X

[hot cloak]

we usually don't just translate things for people but I'll make an exception in this case since you actually want to prevent someone from being homeless. I'd use "Bitte versuche es mit website.xyz, wenn es nur für ein paar Monate ist"

[pallid kelp]

today i learned this cool word https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/heckle and thought of @nocturne frost

[hot cloak]

wie wäre es mit einfach 'versuche website.xzy' ?

[signal mulch]

Osterreich, Deutschland und Schweiz

Wo ist liechtenstein

[turbid mason]

🇧🇪 ?

[celest linden]

DACHLieBe

[pallid kelp]

heh, good one

[turbid mason]

🇱🇺 ?

[pallid kelp]

but what about pennsylvania german u.u

[celest linden]

DACHLieBeLu hört sich nicht so schön an

[open summit]

Hellu

[feral orchid]

@hot cloak how old are u if you dont mind me asking?

[nocturne frost]

@pallid kelp

[hot cloak]

I guess I will dm you

[feral orchid]

oh ok.

[sudden panther]

DACHLielietukotlin

[celest linden]

For real though, I need instructions :^)

[arctic atlas]

Instructions unclear, lillie stuck in while true

[celest linden]

while (true) lillie();

[frigid sigil]

gah thx for reminding me to reteach myself python lol

[celest linden]

You're welcome

[pallid kindle]

👀 Is that a cat? @thin turtle

[thin turtle]

its a fox :p

[hot cloak]

def not the most liked but I remember the adventurous adventures of flappy that I posted in 2017

https://i.imgur.com/usZ8845.png
https://i.imgur.com/FOQjmrW.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZEaufVx.png
https://i.imgur.com/6nqLGiP.png

oops

idk how to stop the auto imbed

wrap it in <>

ty

[peak burrow]

6) Advertising is not allowed without prior staff approval. If you intend to advertise, please speak to a moderator first.
We reserve the right to disallow advertising content that has little to do with learning German or is otherwise deemed inappropriate.

[pallid kelp]

<@&305455824174710787>

[hot cloak]

@hot cloak please dont post these links without our approval

ah sry

[pallid kelp]

now i want to complain about something that happened on the italian server the other day xd

in full knowledge that the person may well be present on this server but idc

[hot cloak]

it just was a link which when you click on you get for a couple of seconds on a nonexisting channel

it's nothing harmful

i just found it funny

fairs, we just get lots of people who post links to servers in order to bypass the invite detection

was heißt fairs?

[pallid kelp]

= fair enough

[hot cloak]

thanks

[pallid kelp]

someone tried to advertise a popular language learning app by posting in the resource channel and writing as if they were a regular user advertising something they had had good experience with

but with very suspicious phrasing

and claiming clearly untrue things, as this particular app has a habit of doing

i guess be aware that some people act as consumers in order to make unsolicited and undisclosed advertising pass for actual testimonials. Haven't seen it happen here though

[feral orchid]

Yet

[peak burrow]

in other news, eating at mcdonalds every day has really improved my german and simplified chinese

[pallid kelp]

...what

[peak burrow]

Yeah i think y'all should try it

I had a very good experience with it

[pallid kelp]

there's a documentary about that actually

and it doesn't seem like the best idea :D

[whole rapids]

YOU GET FAT

[pallid kelp]

no, worse

the documentary is Super Size Me btw. It was rather famous at the time

[whole rapids]

dang, that was in 2004

I do remember him getting really high blood pressure and stuff, and his doctor was like "please stop"

[pallid kelp]

not just pressure, cholesterol was all over the place obviously, and super high glycaemia

[hot cloak]

Cholesterol is a naturally occurring hormone in the human body, it’s when you have too much cholesterol from things you eat that it’s bad

lmfao y'all gotta check this test https://www.languagelevel.com/german/index.php

It decided I was level C2 after just 15 questions

Anyone got any links to any good tests?

That also incorporate listening and stuff like that perhaps

[sudden panther]

https://i.imgur.com/Ne56igb.png broken test smh

[hot cloak]

lmfao wut

[solemn gull]

@hot cloak Do you have a deck?

[hot cloak]

A what?

[solemn gull]

An Anki deck

A deck of anki cards

[hot cloak]

Ohh

No I don't.

[solemn gull]

you can search for one here: @hot cloak

https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/german

You can always make your own too

[hot cloak]

Yeah Goethe just told me
Excellent! Your German skills are almost perfect.
So I'mma change to level B rn

Just needed a moment to brag if y'all don't mind

[pallid kelp]

@hot cloak you shouldn't skip over random parts of the things I (or anyone) write. I said "cholesterol was all over the place", not "he had cholesterol".

[hot cloak]

You shouldn't assume my intentions

I was contributing to the conversation, nothing else

Lol wait what

[pallid kelp]

I didn't assume anything, i detected it from the phrasing and context. I've been a smartass for most of my life, i can tell when someone wants to randomly boast their knowledge

[hot cloak]

Lol yeah ok whatever floats your boat bud

[solar latch]

Someone should make a language placement test that uses machine learning and dynamically chooses different questions to narrow it down

[hot cloak]

Ein zwei drei vier Hütchen von Hütchen von

[opal sequoia]

@pallid kelp A job for you.

[pallid kelp]

something like that has been on my mind for a while, i have actual notes on it :D

the harder part would be devising an accurate metric for proficiency and creating questions accordingly

[solar latch]

Yeah

[pallid kelp]

(i'm going to bed so ping me if you have anything to add and i'll read later)

[solar latch]

Well you could do a supervised learning thing with enough people giving their test results I guess

[rocky whale]

guten abend zusammen

[lunar pawn]

Heyo Parker, #general-2 has been a little bit quieter than usual without you

[solemn gull]

Und die Englischsprachler hat die Kanal übernimmt

[lunar pawn]

Diese Englischsprachler 😠

[warm geyser]

😅

@hot cloak Hast du dich zurechtgefunden?

@oak rivet Hallo, Max. Lange nicht gesehen.

[warm geyser]

@mighty rock Hallo. Mal eine Frage.

[hot cloak]

@warm geyser
Ja doch ^^
So langsam komme ich hier klar

[mighty rock]

@warm geyser Hallloo jetzt bin ich ein bisschen freier

[thorn valve]

ayyy Was geht

[mighty rock]

Ich bin sooooo müde ehrlich

Ich habe 6 Prüfungen seit 2 Wochen gemacht, voll stressig

[feral orchid]

guys in my anki deck, is there anyway i can switch the contents of the front card to the back and vice versa? w/o swtiching for each card individually?

if anyone knows how please ping me 😃

[solemn gull]

Is there an existing deck that deos what you want?

[feral orchid]

are u asking me?

[solemn gull]

Yeah 👀

[feral orchid]

no i am making a personal deck.

with all the words i didnt know....

and i jus realised i wanted the enlgihs word on the front

instead of the back

[solemn gull]

I know but is there one that functions the way you like

If so you can use it as a template

I have a deck that auto switches

I don't know how it decides when to show the front and when the back

[feral orchid]

hmmm, i have never used many decks so i wil have to look..... but when i transfer my cards to this "deck template", will the front and back switch?

[solemn gull]

I really like this deck will be my next template

Try with w small deck

[feral orchid]

as in how does it can recognise german and english?

*can it

[solemn gull]

I'll send you the link to the deck

Unfortunately you have to start from scratch

Tonfit the template

There is a way to manually switch as you suggest

[feral orchid]

hmmm...... i guess thesee 50 cards i will have to edit again.

[solemn gull]

And I'll ping you when I'm at work in about 30

[feral orchid]

yah sure 😃

[solemn gull]

In my own made template I have a field that if I put something in it will switch from front to back

[feral orchid]

oh ookk.... so if i import my cards to urs, the content will switch front to back and back to front?

[solemn gull]

This deck will switch from front to back automatically. It does a couple interesting thing, like show you the plurals

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1386119660

@feral orchid

It has a lot of errors, but I like how it's organized.

[pallid kindle]

The Infotafel is at the entrance. OwO?

[solemn gull]

I don't even know what that means lol

Oh yeah lol

It didn't even bother translating that part

[feral orchid]

danke traxi. i will try it with my deck....

i can merely delete all their content right

[solemn gull]

That's what I usually do 😃

Then save it with a name of your own.

[feral orchid]

i will tell u if it works. 👌🏻

[solemn gull]

If you encounter difficulties let me know and maybe I can help.

[warm geyser]

@mighty rock Bist du der Typ, der viele Instrumente spielt?

[pallid kindle]

Seit wann duzen Sie?🙂@warm geyser

[warm geyser]

Hallo. Gute Frage. Seit ich kritisiert wurde.

😞

[viscid cape]

👁u👁

[pallid kindle]

Aber man soll immun gegen Kritik sein, oder? 🙂@warm geyser (das kann man sagen?)

[warm geyser]

@pallid kindle Na klar. Aber jetzt bin ich auf die dunkle Seite gegangen.

😏

[solemn gull]

Sie sollen nicht folgen was schlimm ist, und unhoeflich ist, und duzen ist beides.

[warm geyser]

Sollte ich nicht duzen?

[mighty rock]

Ja das bin ich haha @warm geyser

[solemn gull]

Das kann ich nicht sagen, musst jeder Meschen selbst entscheiden

[warm geyser]

@mighty rock Super! Lange nicht gesehen.

[viscid cape]

@solemn gull Was sagst du da

😠

[solemn gull]

😠

[viscid cape]

Versuchst du mich auszulösen

[warm geyser]

Achtung!

Herr Krypti ist eine Bombe.

[viscid cape]

@mighty rock Du solltest dich lieber nicht mit der Katze assoziieren

[mighty rock]

Ich hoffe dass ich morgen frei sein werde haha

[warm geyser]

Er ist neidisch.

[solemn gull]

In der echten Welt, benutzt man am meistens siezen.

[viscid cape]

Außer du möchtest sie auf die Spieße genommen essen

[warm geyser]

Richtig.

[mighty rock]

Das ist das 2019 style

[warm geyser]

Du kannst Deutsch.

[mighty rock]

BDSM mit die Jungs

whoops ja

[warm geyser]

Das war eine Lüge.

Du bist Deutschexperte.

[mighty rock]

Nein ich verstehe ehrlich nur Bahnhof tbh

[viscid cape]

Ich würde dich davon abraten, BDSM mit der Katze auszuprobieren

[warm geyser]

Aha.

[viscid cape]

Aber das liegt an dir

[warm geyser]

Hilfe!

[mighty rock]

BDSM mit die Mädels und die Jungs

2019 Style

[viscid cape]

gruselig

[mighty rock]

nein

Equalität

oh okay dieses Wort existiert nicht

"Gleichberechtigung"

ta-dah

[pallid kindle]

Egalität xd lol

[warm geyser]

@viscid cape Herr Krypti, Herr Lehrer.

@mighty rock Du begabter Mensch.

[viscid cape]

@warm geyser Herr Katze. Herr Hauptspeise.

[pallid kindle]

[warm geyser]

😭

@pallid kindle Seien Sie bitte vorsichtig.

Der ist gefährlich.

[pallid kindle]

Er ist immer nett zu mir🤗 Oder es ist nur eine Tarnung😱

[warm geyser]

Ja.

Er hat keine Seele.

[viscid cape]

@warm geyser Sei gerekt.

[warm geyser]

😒

Schauspielerei.

@viscid cape https://youtu.be/VVxoIAgumzk

Ein Geschenk.

[viscid cape]

Meine Güte.... keine Carmen Miranda Memes bitte 😭

[warm geyser]

😈

[mighty rock]

Bin ich der Hauptspeise oder?

Dies ist gefährlich eigentlich

Keine Ahnung was geht

[viscid cape]

Nein, du bist die Nebenspeise

Katze ist die Hauptspeise

[warm geyser]

Das ist ja grausam.

[mighty rock]

Ja total klar jetzt

[warm geyser]

@mighty rock Was gibt es Neues, Herr Musiker?

[mighty rock]

Ich möchte sterben as per usual, so viel zu studieren

[warm geyser]

😐

[mighty rock]

Aber morgens werde ich trinken gehen, so es ist alle cool

[warm geyser]

Gute Lösung.

[mighty rock]

Nach meine Prüfungen

Neeeiiiiiiin

Ich bin kein Alcoholic

[warm geyser]

Das war Spaß.

[mighty rock]

ich weiß alle chill

[warm geyser]

👌

[mighty rock]

Und mit dir?

[warm geyser]

Ich? Nicht viel.

Mein Leben ist nicht so spannend.

[mighty rock]

Aber ich kann das nicht glauben

Warum?

Warum denkst du das ich meine

meine ich*

[warm geyser]

So ist das Leben.

Ich habe nichts Interessantes gemacht.

Das meine ich.

[mighty rock]

Wir können alle interessante Dingen machen, es ist nur eine Wahl