general-2

[hot cloak]

nicht allein, nicht einsam

though I prefer the former

[arctic atlas]

alone =/= lonely
allein =/= einsam

[nocturne frost]

hmh, so it would mean more something along the lines of 'suzu is not lonely in the feeling...'

and I'm guessing it sounds weird too

[hot cloak]

from duden

https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/einsam

it does work 👀

[nocturne frost]

ye but if it sounds weird it sounds weird

[arctic atlas]

mh but you can be einsam although you're not allowed

[nocturne frost]

and if it doesnt get the message across to everyone it aint working

[arctic atlas]

they are not always interchangable

allowed wtf
alone*

[nocturne frost]

I'll think of another sentence then, I cant think of anything to match 'lonely' and what I was trying to sya

[unreal sky]

Was ist die Unterschied zwischen allgemein und allgemein 2 ?

Ok ich habe im #282831147942281216 Kanal gelesen

[arctic atlas]

@unkempt flower poke

[regal lantern]

ouo @nocturne frost bims am cookeng

[hot cloak]

Are you staying in an apartment? :o

[nocturne frost]

I made something too

is it chilli

or just beans

[hot cloak]

Heckieeeeee!!!

[nocturne frost]

hey sweetheart

[hot cloak]

How are you heckie?

[nocturne frost]

I'm alright, hbu boo

[hot cloak]

I’m doing fine

I tried cooking korean food today!

[nocturne frost]

very fancy, lots of soy sauce?

[hot cloak]

It’s black bean paste! :3

[nocturne frost]

super fancy, I cant wait to try your food someday

[regal lantern]

Is it just chili

It's eh, dhal, red kidney beans, a 35p tin of chopped tomatoes, and various spices shoved in that I don't know what they do in an attempt to give it flavour

[hot cloak]

Me too heckie!! Let’s cook together sometimes!!

[nocturne frost]

heres a tip, if you dont know how to cook just add chilli

and it will be so hot you cant taste anything anyway

[hot cloak]

Hahahahaha

[regal lantern]

I added chili powder, but the "hot (three chilies)" powder isn't hot at all

I shoved like maybe equivalent of 3 tablespoons of curry powder in, that's made it taste quite good tbh 😍

[nocturne frost]

a real innovator you are

[regal lantern]

ike

It tastes exactly like how they made stuff like this in the Indian tbh

But eh, I'm kinda living in an apartment @hot cloak ? 🤔

There's 4 floors, 16 people on each floor

[hot cloak]

Airbnb?

[regal lantern]

I share a kitchen with 3 other permanent residents

[hot cloak]

Or a hostel?

[regal lantern]

Nah, uni accomodation

[hot cloak]

Ohhhh :o

[regal lantern]

Why does it take water so long to boil off reeee

[sudden panther]

fucking callom wtf is that

[sudden panther]

Wtf is that bread.

Looks like a cut up sponge.

[cold vessel]

What's in that except beans and lentils?

[alpine sinew]

that's not bread, that's untoasted toast

[hot cloak]

Omfg i confused callum with isla lol

That’s why i asked if he’s staying in an apartment lol

[regal lantern]

Nothing @cold vessel

[frank mirage]

sinoel, untoasted toast is bread

[sudden panther]

So you've been secretly judging isla all along.

[frank mirage]

lol

[cold vessel]

So what, it's tomato paste, beans and lentils? 🤔

[regal lantern]

This is the best food I've had in over 2 weeks though

[sudden panther]

Well to be fair it looks more edible than Juan's spaghetti soup.

[regal lantern]

Kinda Henbri

It's a tin of chopped tomatoes, so i get tomato lumps

Forgot I had carrots I could've put in it

[cold vessel]

Did you at least put some spices in there

[regal lantern]

Ofc

Loads

No clue which

But it tastes good imo

[hybrid berry]

Hello ^-^

[sudden panther]

Hello and welcome laddie.

[hot cloak]

She’s a native, give her the role, arrem

[regal lantern]

He did

[cold vessel]

What lentils did you use, @regal lantern?

[regal lantern]

Red

[alpine sinew]

no not in german(y) acryphos
not even memeing

[sudden panther]

Man, I went to introductions and returned to #general instead of this channel and was really confused about how the topic changed so quickly.

[hybrid berry]

Yay \o/ I hope my English is and will be understandable

[frank mirage]

youre doing great so far

[cold vessel]

#general is for losers

[regal lantern]

Sorry Nero, can you say that in German? Not quite getting what you mean 🤔

[hybrid berry]

What exactly do you mean?

[sudden panther]

Naja, Deutsch kannst du auch sprechen. 😛

[regal lantern]

Eh? Can you speak up a little please, I'm a trifle dead in the left ear

[proper shale]

@hot cloak wow

[sudden panther]

Can we just ban callum?

[hybrid berry]

Natürlich kann ich Deutsch sprechen-

[sudden panther]

Not even I meme up new users. 😔

[alpine sinew]

sprech lieber bayrisch

[regal lantern]

Nah would you fuck

[proper shale]

No

[regal lantern]

You're wayyyy too boring for that Atrem 👀

[proper shale]

No u

[hybrid berry]

I am not all that good in Bavarian...I understand it but speaking it...

[arctic atlas]

sprich* @alpine sinew :p

[proper shale]

@regal lantern why does ur food look like someone's diarrhea

[alpine sinew]

lol
ich wollt ja red schreiben aber dacht mir "das wirkt so dialektal, da beschwert man sich wieder"

[arctic atlas]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hybrid berry]

Na passt schon

[regal lantern]

Cause I made it Isla

I can't cook

[arctic atlas]

wie mans macht machts man verkehrt

[alpine sinew]

oh mann ey
das gibt mir ja n richtigen rausch wie non-hochdeutsch-konform ich grad bin 😩

[hybrid berry]

:c

Oh I just remembered: Do you guys know the Dialect test?

It's basically a test where you have to answer how you call a specific thing and in the end it guesses where you are from

[flat jacinth]

Can't say I've heard of it

[alpine sinew]

there are probably multiple
I did one once and it placed me very badly

[hot cloak]

Is it an online test?

[hybrid berry]

The one I did guessed my city

@hot cloak yes

[hot cloak]

gib the link

[alpine sinew]

link or name nero?

[flat jacinth]

Mind giving a link

?

[hybrid berry]

Yes yes of course

[sudden panther]

http://www.alink.com

[hot cloak]

@proper shale sorry isla lol

[sudden panther]

Oh hey it's an actual site.

[hybrid berry]

I mean this one http://www.spiegel.de/static/happ/wissenschaft/2015/sprachatlas/v2/dist/#/questions

[flat jacinth]

you got me good

[hot cloak]

I'mma try to get Austro-bavarian or whatever

[cobalt lake]

You guys are actually talking in allgemein2

[hybrid berry]

No.

[cobalt lake]

O shit I must be mistaken then

I'm so sorry

I promise I'm never coming back to this channel

[hybrid berry]

Oh I forgot:
O'zapft ist!

[cobalt lake]

Say what

[hybrid berry]

O'zapft ist

[cobalt lake]

I don't think I get it

[hybrid berry]

We say that when Oktoberfest starts

[flat jacinth]

I just did that test

Guess where I'm from...

https://i.imgur.com/iKWejAk.png

[hybrid berry]

O'zapft [Bavarian]->Angezapft [German] -> on tap @cobalt lake

[sudden panther]

Native, key?

[flat jacinth]

ja

wollte grad fragen wie man denn die native speaker rolle bekommt

[cobalt lake]

Just like that

[hybrid berry]

I got these results (one of them is the actual city I live in)

[flat jacinth]

Yeah, mine was pretty close too

[hybrid berry]

Do you guys sometimes have these moments when you find out that the word you use for something is actually in your dialect and isn't used in whole Germany

[arctic atlas]

mine wasnt 😦

[flat jacinth]

lol

thats pretty general

[alpine sinew]

pretty bad
didn't even get the bundesland right

[hybrid berry]

:c

[flat jacinth]

No, I usually know when somethings dialect

Standard German feels like a diffrent language, maybe thats why

[hybrid berry]

._. I only knew about like Krapfen and Erdapfel but...other words?

[flat jacinth]

The only time I actually use it is in school and even there we sometimes use the dialect

[hot cloak]

not bad

[hybrid berry]

Number 3 looks so out of place

[hot cloak]

I am not even fluent in German

[flat jacinth]

yeah that's probably why

[hot cloak]

Well I lived in Vienna the whole month of July so I knew some features

[flat jacinth]

you haven't learned dialect words I guess

so you've got red pretty much all over the place

[hybrid berry]

☝

[flat jacinth]

Weird it's so high in Switzerland though

I thought our words in the quiz were quite distinct from the other ones

Idk though

[hybrid berry]

Hmmm what do you call a 10 Cent coin?

(Like in the test)

[flat jacinth]

it wasn't in it

10-Räppler [zä räppler]

would be mine

[alpine sinew]

I don't like that multiple answer aren't possible
like for 10ct I would've given both 10-Cent(-Stück) and zehner
but zehner only works sometimes

because generally zehner is 10€

[flat jacinth]

I'd say Zehner-Note to that

[hybrid berry]

I would say Zehner and Zehn Euro

[flat jacinth]

You roll your r right?

[hybrid berry]

Yes.
In other German servers I was asked quite often to repeat a word

[flat jacinth]

But not in Zehner right

[hybrid berry]

No...

Not me

But I don't know sometimes if it's because I live in Bavaria or because of the fact that I first spoke Russian where you roll the r too

I can feel my English getting worse and worse

[flat jacinth]

I think your English is fine

[hot cloak]

Hm, usually "r" is the first sound that you lose when you live in Germany

[flat jacinth]

there are two types of r's

[hybrid berry]

Rrrr and eehhhr

[flat jacinth]

there's the one that sounds like a (?) and the "normal" one

[hot cloak]

Like, Russian is my mother tongue but it's easy to get addicted to german soft r

[hybrid berry]

@flat jacinth yes

[flat jacinth]

Here the a-r doesn't exist

[hot cloak]

As far as I understand the ending "-er" tends to be pronounced like "a"

[flat jacinth]

People either roll the r or do the throat one

[hybrid berry]

Funny story: My mom told me that I stood once infront of a mirror and practiced both rs (German and Russian) until I could pronounce those right

@hot cloak Exactly like in Schwester

[alpine sinew]

there are countless types of Rs
and for german it's at least 4

[flat jacinth]

also after -ie

[hybrid berry]

But I think that also kinda depends where you live in Germany

[flat jacinth]

for example trainieren

which also counts as -er as i've just notice

d

nevermind then

[hot cloak]

In standart German you move your tongue back, generally

[hybrid berry]

Huh 🤔

[flat jacinth]

yeah huh?

[hybrid berry]

I just kinda do it and don't think about it much

[hot cloak]

But you feel the tension in the back of your throat?

[flat jacinth]

I don't get what you mean

[hot cloak]

or how do I describe that

[hybrid berry]

I think I know what you mean

[flat jacinth]

with which r?

[hybrid berry]

The 'normal one'

[cobalt lake]

Maybe they mean the trilling?

[hot cloak]

That's how I imagine it. In Russian, as well as in Italian, the tip of your tongue almost touches the front teeth

[cobalt lake]

uvular trill

[hybrid berry]

@hot cloak рррр

[alpine sinew]

uvular approximant is the most standard one

[hot cloak]

Yes

[flat jacinth]

Oh btw @hybrid berry , you asked if we're surprised sometimes when we find out a dialect word isn't one in standard German. I just remembered one

"grillieren"

is one I didn't know it wasn't used in Germany

[rancid agate]

wtf is "grillieren"

[bleak fog]

Ist wohl schweizerisch für Grillen.

[rancid agate]

lol

[bleak fog]

Zumindest sagt das Duden so. xD

[hot cloak]

Das war offensichtlich

[bleak fog]

Naja. Für mich klang es nicht wirklich, nach dem typischen schweizerisch.

[hot cloak]

Guten Morgeen

[alpine sinew]

Yes good idea

Uhh maybe I’ll learn turkish but I’ll focus on hausa and Swahili for the next while (years probably)

@crimson cloud

[crimson cloud]

I only know total basics of Turkish

I don't really have enough of a reason to learn a non-Indo-European language to fluency because that's very time-consuming

I just learned them because I've heard that Turkish is quite easy and regular

And I think it's more irregular than people say but also quite easy

I love agglutinative languages, it's kinda a shame there's barely any reason for me to learn one

But I love agglutinativity

[alpine sinew]

The verb morphology is extremely regular afaik
Copula and negcopula have irregular forms and that’s it?

[crimson cloud]

Yeah but there's also stuff like voicing/devoicing that can get in the way

Some verbs do this

Most of what I consider to be irregular is this weird voicing/devoicing stuff

buzdabı - buzdablar

[alpine sinew]

Wait where? I don’t see it

[crimson cloud]

Wait wrong

It's buzdolabı - buzdolapları

ı disappears and b changes into p

[alpine sinew]

Looks like regular auslautverhättung
Oh the ɯ disappears hmm fair

Sure the stem doesn’t just end on b?

[crimson cloud]

nope

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/buzdolabı

Although it might be regular but works according to some rules I haven't learned

But if so than there's definitely much more learning required than with for example English plural

[alpine sinew]

If you look at this though https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dolap
You can see it’s regular/dolab/ [dolap] and /dolabɯ/ [dolabɯ]
And they messed up the //

Coda obstruents and r simply devoice

b gets resyllabified as an onset in dolabɯ -> no devoicing, but not in dolaplar -> devoicing

That’s just German lol

Rad=Rat
Räder==Räte

[radiant matrix]

bez grillieren: grillen tun die Grillen, grillieren tun Leute mit einem Grill. ganz einfach

[hot cloak]

Lol, ihr Schweizer

What do germans use for “to grill”?

Grillen

Ich grille eine Wurst

As opposed to "Die Grille zirpt"

[arctic atlas]

vielleicht grillt sie ja auch 🤔

[hot cloak]

Was grillt denn eine Grille :^)

[radiant matrix]

Grilladen

[hybrid berry]

Eine Grille grillt Gegrilltes

[void stream]

“Schatz, hör mal, die Grillen!” - “Ich riech nichts”

[hot cloak]

@viscid cape kryptiiiiiii

[viscid cape]

@hot cloak Suzushi-chaaaan 😻

[hot cloak]

@viscid cape kryptiii, there’s this project in this server going on, oxi made a command that will give back answers to frequent questions, wanna write some stuff about grammar with us?

[viscid cape]

Natürlich Suzuki-chan 😺 Wenn ich helfen kann

[ivory jolt]

henlo

[radiant matrix]

man müsste vllt auch noch nen mod informieren, dass du die Rolle bekommst :P
@sudden panther sieht online aus

[sudden panther]

halo i bims online am aussehen

Wer braucht eine Rolle? 🤔

[viscid cape]

Hallo Arrenghus 😻

[sudden panther]

Ah.

Heya Krypti.

[little bison]

i bims, was ist das?

Dialekt für „ich bin“ oder was?

[twilit garden]

meme-slang

[radiant matrix]

und bedeutet “ich bin’s”

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost

[nocturne frost]

OHH YOU SWEET CHILD

DID YOU MAKE THOSE?

WHATS THE FILLING?

[cold vessel]

Filling? 🤔

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost

[nocturne frost]

yeah dont chinese buns usually have filling?

[hot cloak]

No filling, it’s burger buns

[nocturne frost]

at least the ones at the bakery I go to have them :c

ohhh Ic ic

[hot cloak]

But I’m not making burgers

[nocturne frost]

👀

are you eating them plain

[hot cloak]

Idk what I’ll eat it with yet i just wanted to make them hahahaha

[nocturne frost]

bless your heart anyway

[arctic atlas]

Bless you both tbh :3

[desert pecan]

kneading bread manually is a pain

[hot cloak]

Thank you heckie 💜💜💜😭😭

I always do it manually cuz i dont have any robot :D

[desert pecan]

same my mum used to tell me to do that bit

[nocturne frost]

oh my god you call it a robot thats so cute

kneading w your hands is fun espc if you need to be violent

[cold vessel]

👌
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81UknzEqmhL._SX425_.jpg

[sudden panther]

It's a regional dialect.

[hot cloak]

die gute alte Kitchenaid

[nocturne frost]

the good expensive kitchenaid

[hot cloak]

hey remember, ours is collecting dust on the counter :^)

[cold vessel]

Why?

Make something

[arctic atlas]

Yeah Nully make something

[nocturne frost]

what good does it do remembering that you have a big beauty lmfao

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost it wasn’t fun with this dough, it was too sticky D:

I already knew I had a big beauty :^)

Wheres freya?

home

[nocturne frost]

@hot cloak what good does it do if I remember except to make me green and jealous

[hot cloak]

idk 👀

[nocturne frost]

schüttle meinen Kopf

[hot cloak]

p sure my dad would let you take it

[nocturne frost]

never ever

idek what I'd use it for I really prefer my hands

it would just be like a trophy on my countertop

[hot cloak]

pf ofc

[nocturne frost]

a very pretty beautiful trophy

that I kiss everytime I see

[sudden panther]

"I really prefer my hands" - hork

[hot cloak]

can confirm

[arctic atlas]

insert i don‘t need it spongebob meme here

[gentle onyx]

I NEED IT

[hot cloak]

@void stream Hey hanna! I have a question about linguistics. Are subjunktiv and konjunktiv the same thing in german? I saw some discussion on the internet and was curious what you think since you study linguistics.
Btw, could you add sth pingable to your name? It was pretty hard to find you. 😅

[void stream]

afaik it's not 100% the same thing, but because of the subjunktiv not really existing in German, and the konjunktiv having a similar function (both express modality) I guess you can kinda say they're the same. But modality is not the easiest topic, because it varies from language to language

[hot cloak]

@void stream what is modality?

[void stream]

Modality changes the meaning of a sentence slightly, often expressing the position of the speaker or the reality of a statement. It‘s hard to grasp modalities of other languages when they don‘t exist in the languages you already know. German hat 3 verbal modalities (Indikativ, Konjunktiv I & II) and some modal verbs (können, wollen, müssen, mögen,...)

[midnight birch]

Its 2 am almost and I have to wake up at 5 am for college

[void stream]

Other languages have some interesting modalities such as Desiderativ (to express that you wish something) while you have to paraphrase it in German as something like ‚ich wünschte, es würde schneien‘

[hot cloak]

Imperative doesn’t count as modality?

[void stream]

I think it also is

I forgot about that

[hot cloak]

@void stream we’re working on a project in this server rn where learners could just ask a bot and he would give them prewritten articles. Would you be interested in writing sth about Konjunktiv vs. Subjunktiv?

[void stream]

Phew I could try :D

[hot cloak]

I think it’s a very interesting topic and it would be great help if you could!! :3

[void stream]

How long and detailed should that be?

[hot cloak]

Well, the discord limit for msgs is 2000 characters, you could divide it into more parts if you want but i think it shouldn’t be too long, the main point is to explain it to learners clearly 🤔

I’ll leave it to your judgment how detailed it should be

[void stream]

where should I submit that?

[hot cloak]

I’m asking others rn, a sec 😅

Almost nobody is online, just keep it in your pc for now? >.>

[void stream]

Will do

[hot cloak]

Thanks a lot, hanna!! 💜💜

[void stream]

:)

[hot cloak]

@void stream btw, just curious, what exactly will be in the article? 👀

[void stream]

depends, at the moment not much more than what I wrote here because I thought I should focus on conjunctive and subjunctive. I there anything else that I should mention?

[hot cloak]

It think it would be useful to compare the german Konjunktiv to other langs’ subjunktiv, mainly the uses and stuff :3

[void stream]

then I need to do some research :D

[hot cloak]

Ohhhh, do you use the internet or some books?

If it’s the net, maybe i could help?

[void stream]

I looked at my stuff here at home, but now I googled it and if I can believe the top answer here it will be hard to explain a difference :D
https://linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/906/is-the-german-conjunctive-the-same-as-the-subjunctive-of-other-languages-if

But examples of the two conjunctives could be nice. I will add them

[hot cloak]

This topic might be too hard

[void stream]

I wouldn't dive too deep into it

[hot cloak]

You don’t have to do it if you don’t feel like it D:

[void stream]

Just explain the two conjunctives and a tiiiiny little bit of modality

No it's okay

I like to help, but I'm not sure what you need :D

[hot cloak]

Ok, let’s do that^^

[alpine sinew]

@hot cloak @void stream
don't forget the most important part of German modality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_modal_particles

[void stream]

Oh you‘re right !

Topic of my Bachelor thesis, embarassing that I forgot about that :D

[alpine sinew]

:0

[radiant matrix]

"A little bit on modality" seems an impossibility. like, an explanation of just all the uses of müssen or sollen would probably break 2000 characters

if you were to do it in detail

[void stream]

I know. Those would need their own entries for detailed explanation

Then maybe it wouldn‘t be helpful naming them in a text about conjunctive etc?

[radiant matrix]

I would personally make different thingies for every concept

one for Konj1 one for Konj2 one for müssen one for doch

etc

[void stream]

Okay

And how should subjunctive be handled?

There could be a redirection to the conjunctives maybe?

[hot cloak]

I wanted to make articles for Konjunktivs and then one to compare Konjunktiv and subjunctives of other langs

[void stream]

Which other languages would that be?

[hot cloak]

Do you actually have to make an article about müssen, sollen etc? Like, people can just translate it and they already know how to use them

[solar latch]

they can be confusing

[hot cloak]

English, French, italian, prolly spanish but idk shit about spanish and idk anyone who speaks both spanish and german
Also maybe br. Portuguese

[void stream]

Comparative linguistics are very useful (esp. because of the different backgrounds of everyone here) but how do we get the experts on the different languages? :D

[alpine sinew]

I assume brpt was mentioned bc of sascha who spent a year in brazil and has good ling knowledge in general

[hot cloak]

We already have an italian and a brazilian

[alpine sinew]

or that

[hot cloak]

I’m sure finding someone who knows both german and English subjunctives won’t be hard

I could find sth about french in the worst case

I didn’t know sascha spent a year in brazil :o

@void stream when you finish written it, just post it here i guess :D

[void stream]

Kinda self-conscious now :D

[hot cloak]

Why? 👀

[void stream]

It‘s still mostly what I wrote earlier (and because of iCloud being weird I don‘t have access to it from my phone right now) and now the plan seems to be completely different :D

But I can post it when I‘m home

[hot cloak]

It’s ok, even what you wrote earlier can be of good use imo^^

[void stream]

Konjunktiv vs. Subjunktiv

Those two are ‚modalities‘ which means that they change the meaning of a sentence slightly to express such things as the reality of the statement or the position of the speaker. Conjunctive and subjunktive have a very similar function, both express the non-reality of something. Because of German having no subjunctive and other languages having no conjunctive it’s hard to directly compare them and their functions. Some even say there are no usage differences at all.

Conjunctive I and conjunctive II differ in their degree of non-reality.

Conjunctive I is the so-called ‚potentialis‘, for statements that could happen. But it’s more commonly used for indirect speech. It’s based on the present tense.

Er sagt, er lese das Buch.

Conjunctive II is the ‚irrealis‘ and is used for things that are not possible. It’s based on the past tense.

Wäre ich ein Junge, hätte ich es leichter.

In everyday use of German, the conjunctives often use constructions with ‚würde‘ instead.

Er sagt, er würde das Buch lesen.
Wäre ich ein Junge/Würde ich ein Junge sein, würde ich es leichter haben.

More modalities of the German language which can directly be expressed through the verb are the indicative (for a statement that is ‚real‘) and the imperative (for a command). Then there are the modal verbs: können, sollen, müssen, wollen, mögen, dürfen.
Other modalities have to be paraphrased to get their point across in German.

Feel free to change everything 😘

[hot cloak]

Thanks a lot!

I’ll prolly move Konjunktiv I and II to their respective articles. The first paragraph will stay in KxS and the last one will be marked as additional information 🤔

[nocturne frost]

this looks super helpful, would there be anywhere to read it all once its done

[hot cloak]

Yes, we’re working on other articles too so SoonTM

[nocturne frost]

💞

[radiant matrix]

uh @void stream every definition I'm aware of treats conjunctive as a rarely used synonyom of subjunctive

they are both terms applied to largely the same thing (to the point where eu-pt uses conjun(c)tivo and br-pt uses subjun(c)tivo for the same thing, I forgot the spelling)

and it's like, defined per language, basically

And every description of German I'm aware of says
Konjuntiv I/II = present/past subjunctive

[void stream]

I heard/read anywhere that there are differences, but I also have no clue where they could lie. So if you want, you could just kick the part about there being any differences 💁

[radiant matrix]

(unless they define new terms)

btw it might interest you to learn that in Swiss German, K1 is used a lot more broadly

marking what amounts to hearsay evidentiality

[stuck crane]

What is Konjunktiv 1 again

Ich habe vergessen

[void stream]

yeah, Swiss is something completely foreign to me, sorry if I drop any important aspects of it, plz don't take it personally :D

[frank imp]

Hallo guys I have a question when we say Arbeitsplatz this .s. is it the possessive s like in English or it is another rule.

[hot cloak]

No, it’s just an s that acts like a glue

[frank imp]

what is the name of this grammar please

[hot cloak]

No idea tbh, try asking in #questions

[frank imp]

thanks a lot . I will

[tired scarab]

hello guys

I really really really dunno where to start learning german again

like I looked at the resources and it just feels too messy

i had some german knowledge but I think starting again would be way better can somebody help me with this?

[hot cloak]

whats too messy about the resources list, we're always open for feedback on how to improve it

[tired scarab]

like i dont want to read an entire german grammar book to learn grammar

it feels weird and forced

[hot cloak]

you shouldnt to tbh lol

thats just for browsing

[tired scarab]

sadly I couldnt attend a course this semester and i am really confused on what to do

like what kinds of things I should do

do duolingo anki etc?

like I guess I can learn some vocab etc but then how will I use them

[mild cosmos]

The problem with using nothing except vocab trainers like that is that german grammar is too complicated to learn from inference

If nothing else, case endings will throw you off too much for that to work

Like it or not, if you want to learn German, learning grammar is part of the process

I had to learn that the hard way; I spent a long time (6-9 months) using duolingo and in the end I learned very little from it. My grammar was at a maybe A2 level by that time, and I couldn't use the words I had learned to string together a coherent sentence

[tired scarab]

me too

I tried it for some time

[dull chasm]

I use that and I don't know what else to do.

[tired scarab]

I got the words etc but then I could never use them

[dull chasm]

duolingo

[hot cloak]

@tired scarab how about buying a textbook?

[mild cosmos]

I'm of the opinion that you don't need to buy a textbook

[tired scarab]

I think I have a textbook called Ideen published by hueber

[mild cosmos]

You should buy a real dictionary though

[tired scarab]

well what do you suggest then ?@mild cosmos

[hot cloak]

@tired scarab thats a good book

[mild cosmos]

Having a non digital dictionary vastly improved my german

I mean that you don't need to buy a textbook, not that you shouldn't use one

That's what the resources are for

[tired scarab]

well idk

like how would I learn the words and grammar

it just again reading those grammar books and doing anki or smth

[mild cosmos]

The Schenke and Seago beginners book is much easier than you expect. Try it, you might be surprised

[tired scarab]

but I havent seen the help of it at all

I think I will look into schenke and this textbook

[hot cloak]

its about practice and using what you learn, not just reading it

[tired scarab]

but other than that I feel like I am doing smth wrong about learning vocab etc

[mild cosmos]

That's because it takes practical use to make sense of what you learn. Read some childrens books and puzzle out the structure of the grammar. Be certain that you really know what's going on: in this sentence, who is the subject? What is the verb? Is there a direct object? Is there an indirect object? Etc etc

Check out "the Knickerbocker Bande" from Thomas Brezina. They're kid's mysteries. It's more enjoyable to read a story than to work with a grammar book for hours, but you will need to at least try to understand the grammar or else you'll get tripped up by sentences with more complicated structures

And you'll learn way more vocab by reading than from duolingo.

[tired scarab]

Thanks for all the helpful tips

I will check them out (^^)

[mild cosmos]

👌

Bitte schön

[mental cliff]

Hallo leute. Ich lerne deutsch und Suche nach Partnern(Sprechen).

[mild cosmos]

Dafür kannst du immer an der Voice Chat wenden

Obwohl ich weiß eigentlich nicht, wie aktiv es ist. Ich habe nämlich nie darin gechattet

[pale glade]

vor einem Paar Tagen habe ich daran beteiligt. Nachdem einem Paar Leute den Kanal beitreten, kommen immer wieder mehr, auch wenn einige verlassen. Das Gespräch ist nie völlig auf Deutsch, aber jeder ist bereit, sein Deutsch zu benutzen, wenn man das will.

ich habs genossen

[mild cosmos]

Das klingt angenehm

[pale glade]

ja

wäre aber gut wenn es heute aktiv wäre

ich hab nichts zu tun und würde gerne ein bisschen sprechen

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost @proper shale @rugged plaza @red pewter 💜

[nocturne frost]

Hallo pretty girl

[rugged plaza]

Hallu suzush

[hot cloak]

Heyo pretty doggo

[nocturne frost]

Coursea starta in octoba 😩

[hot cloak]

Heyo cutie patumu

Mine too heckie

[nocturne frost]

I'm quite excited

I want to power learn

[hot cloak]

Me too

[proper shale]

Powerful

[hot cloak]

I wanna learn and chat in german

[nocturne frost]

I just hope others don't slow down the class it kinda made me hate a lot of language classes before

[rugged plaza]

Patzushi 👀

[hot cloak]

ill learn german and become one with it

[nocturne frost]

I hope that's not too harsh to say

[hot cloak]

Heckie i think they will

[nocturne frost]

suzu will be black yellow n red

[hot cloak]

Most learners dont put effort in it

[rugged plaza]

BRB powerlearning German 👀

[nocturne frost]

It was 1.2k for the course

[hot cloak]

WHAT

[nocturne frost]

If they don't put effort in I'll scream

[hot cloak]

WAT WAT WAT

[nocturne frost]

I'll actually screan

[proper shale]

1.2 k for a Semester of course

Of course not ofc

Idk what I'm trying to say

[hot cloak]

mine is 700€

[nocturne frost]

Awee

Yeah it sucks but

I'm hoping it's worth it

[hot cloak]

I hope for you too heckie

But i doubt others will try to power learn like you :<

[nocturne frost]

I HOPE FOR EVERYONE ACHIEVE YIYR DREAMS

[hot cloak]

adults are lazy

[nocturne frost]

ILL ALWAYS BELIEVE IN YOU

[proper shale]

1.2k is good price for the hours you get there I think

[hot cloak]

SAME TO YOU HECKIE

[nocturne frost]

yeah so am I but the price per lesson is motivating me

[rugged plaza]

If you don't become German after a semester call me and I'll have a talk with your teacher and classmates 👀

[proper shale]

The course I was looking at is 270 a month but fewer hours and fewer days

Umu best papa

[rugged plaza]

I hope they like long lived American traditions

[nocturne frost]

I just like mine because of student status

[hot cloak]

Wow 270€/month is a lot

[nocturne frost]

I get everything cheap

And I get to take loans

[rugged plaza]

plays all the other kids with the pumped kicks

[proper shale]

270 a month for a Course is cheap 👀

[nocturne frost]

Betta run Betta run

Check if you get student status too islie

Saves so much moni

[proper shale]

I know milo paid like over 1k a month currency money for his

[nocturne frost]

Euros??

[proper shale]

Swiss currency

[hot cloak]

Wtfffff

[nocturne frost]

WTF

[proper shale]

Idk he told me at some point but I forgot the exact number

[hot cloak]

Why do you all have such expensive courses

[proper shale]

Something like 1.6k

Maybe

[nocturne frost]

wtfff

Too much

[rugged plaza]

Nani 👀

[nocturne frost]

Swiss as well???

Too too much

[proper shale]

He'd work for a week to earn that money tho 👀

[hot cloak]

WOW

[proper shale]

Or maybe a week and a bit

[hot cloak]

How old is milo even

[proper shale]

19

[hot cloak]

WOW

[rugged plaza]

[nocturne frost]

Milo could come to ger after and become a millionaire there

[hot cloak]

Damn what does he do

[nocturne frost]

Part time work?

[proper shale]

He works as a cleaner w his dad 👀

[rugged plaza]

Suzie look at that ! ppl our age doing better than we are

[proper shale]

No like gruelling full tine

[nocturne frost]

I think it's just normal in Switzerland

[proper shale]

Wake up at 5 am

[nocturne frost]

Oof

[proper shale]

Kind of work

[nocturne frost]

Poor guy

[proper shale]

Get back home at 6pm

[hot cloak]

Milo be da reel suga daddy

[rugged plaza]

Oh god, he needs to be my sugar daddy

[nocturne frost]

Lf> Swiss sugar hmu 😉

[proper shale]

U can buy sugar daddy power in Paris

[rugged plaza]

[nocturne frost]

Ugh but it won't make me rich

Just gay

[hot cloak]

lol heckie

[rugged plaza]

I actual have sugar daddy inside my cupboard

[proper shale]

What if ur already gay

[nocturne frost]

And I'm ALREADY GAY what's the POINT

[proper shale]

Wow

[nocturne frost]

it just makes me straight LMFAO

[proper shale]

Lmfaoo

[hot cloak]

Wait heckie you’re bi?

[rich hatch]

@nocturne frost you will become GAYER

[proper shale]

@rich hatch hii danii

[hot cloak]

Or is oxi a girl?!!!!!

[rugged plaza]

I am a not so gay bi 👀

[proper shale]

I bet heckie has a bik dicc

[rich hatch]

rainbows will shine in the sjy while you stroll

[nocturne frost]

Awe I wish he had boobs

[hot cloak]

Really umu????

[nocturne frost]

Nah Suzi I'm bye

[rich hatch]

@proper shale hiiii

[rugged plaza]

Yes suzu I'm bisexual 👀

[hot cloak]

So many people are bisexual wow

[proper shale]

Suzie why u acting so surprised 😒

[nocturne frost]

Ich bin döppelsexuel

[hot cloak]

Idk any lesbians tho

[nocturne frost]

Lool

[rugged plaza]

I stared at some guy 3 seperate times when I was with Isla 👀

She didn't see 👀

[proper shale]

Is there something wrong w being bi

[hot cloak]

HAHAHA

[nocturne frost]

Wow gay

[rich hatch]

were they cute?

[proper shale]

Wow cheating bastard

[hot cloak]

why didnt you stare together?

[rugged plaza]

Wow hey come on

[nocturne frost]

I'm taking off love you allllll ❤❤❤❤

[rugged plaza]

Can't be cheating if it's just looking 👀

[proper shale]

Love you too heckkk ❤❤

[hot cloak]

Umuuuuu

[proper shale]

Wow didn't u kno it's just cheating if some girlie exists near u 😤 I mean wot if u breathe the same air ew

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost have a safe flight!!!!

[rugged plaza]

Wow Isla we are breathing the same air rn

[hot cloak]

You should have stared with him islie

[proper shale]

Wow that's kinky 👀

I did stare in him suzie

[rugged plaza]

She does stare at me at random times 👀

[proper shale]

👀

[rugged plaza]

👀

[proper shale]

I'm just checking if ur ok

I pronis

[rugged plaza]

Sure 👀

[proper shale]

👀 what else would I be doing

[rich hatch]

aww thatd cute

[hot cloak]

Are you two dating already

[proper shale]

Wat

[rugged plaza]

Awwww bik love thanks Isla 👀

Wat suzu

[hot cloak]

lol nvm then

[rugged plaza]

Ewww dating the opposite sex when breathing the same air ewww

[proper shale]

Ewww

[hot cloak]

You’re BI umu

[proper shale]

Bi stands for
B= totally
I= gay

[hot cloak]

Sure Isla lol

[rugged plaza]

😤👌

[rich hatch]

its not just river in egypt~

islo and umu sitting in the tree

[hot cloak]

in the tree

[rich hatch]

lool i saw that

[rugged plaza]

👀

[proper shale]

👀

[rich hatch]

oh gods islo

[hot cloak]

Isla r u bi too

[proper shale]

Suzie what would u do if I said yes

[hot cloak]

Nothing

[karmic mist]

Why are we labeling people bi

[proper shale]

Ok then it doesn't matter then does it 👀

[hot cloak]

My curiosity would just be satisfied

[rugged plaza]

Is you attracted to both woman and man Isla ? 👀

[proper shale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Whoknowzlol

[hot cloak]

Is you attracted to both woman and man at different times isla?

Damn umu

Y u edit it

[proper shale]

@rugged plaza u godda wek up early go sleep boi 👏

[rugged plaza]

👀

Yes M A M A

[proper shale]

😩 👌 💦 good papapa

[rugged plaza]

@proper shale also you said you'd wake up at 8 tomorrow 👀

[rich hatch]

are,you still breathing same air?

[proper shale]

Yeah lol

Oops

[karmic mist]

When will we breath other air?

[rugged plaza]

If you don't wake up you'll have a bad surprise 👀

[proper shale]

Oh no

Papa I'll be good I promise 😫 👌

[karmic mist]

I do not like the aura surrounding this

[rugged plaza]

Then breathe elsewhere

[karmic mist]

Good idea

[proper shale]

@rugged plaza go to oyasumi

[rugged plaza]

Haaaai

[hot cloak]

@nocturne frost i tried baking bread again but i might have let the dough over-rest

[nocturne frost]

OH babe it still looks like it would be delicious W a warm meal

Super cute plaits, I am super duper proud

[opal sequoia]

What happens if you over-rest it?

[hot cloak]

💜💜💜💜💜💜 thank you heckie

[opal sequoia]

I thought it's fine to do that.

[hot cloak]

It’s not as fluffy and sometimes it’s sour

Luckily this one didn’t become sour

Well, what i said is just sth i googled cuz i don’t have much experience with bread lol

[opal sequoia]

Oh okay.

I want to try it.

@nocturne frost Imagine being blessed to taste Suzu's food.

[hot cloak]

I’m not very good at cooking lol

[nocturne frost]

I will one day!!

And I'm gonna make her a meal too

Grilled meat n fish in all sorts of marinade n dips

[hot cloak]

Let’s cook together 💜💜💜

[opal sequoia]

Let's have one of those parties where we all bring food.

Or yeah we can cook together.

[nocturne frost]

Yess

[opal sequoia]

We can have the super GLaD friends dinner and us cool people will cook for the lazy non-cooking friends.

[hot cloak]

Sounds fun!!

And then we could nap together!

[opal sequoia]

Sure. 😄

Dinner and a movie. 😻

In German. 😻

[hot cloak]

😍😍

[nocturne frost]

AND A NAP 😩

[arctic helm]

Netflix and chill you mean?

[hot cloak]

Nooo, movie and nap!

[arctic helm]

Hulu and hang?

[hot cloak]

What’s that?

[plush citrus]

Isn't Hulu an American thing?

[regal lantern]

Yes

[opal sequoia]

@vital quarry #questions is only for asking questions about German language. It's not really for casual discussion, writing your random thoughts, or complaining about other people.

[vital quarry]

@opal sequoia it wasn't me who forced it in this direction

[opal sequoia]

Please explain what your issue is with the discussion that took place.

[vital quarry]

exactly the fact that i didn't want to go in that direction

[opal sequoia]

In what direction?

[hot cloak]

grabs cacao

[opal sequoia]

@pallid kelp

[vital quarry]

that everyone has their opinion and every language is different cliché sort of stuff that everyone has heard a lot of times

it wasn't about that

[opal sequoia]

Okay but I don't get why you're upset.

It sounded like you were confused about a grammatical concept, so people tried to help you out.

If that's not what you were asking, that's fine. But there's no need to be upset about it.

[pallid kelp]

are you the only one allowed to think aloud? 🤔 Is it forbidden to derive indipendent thoughts from something someone else said?

[vital quarry]

but how is it... constructive?

[pallid kelp]

does it have to be?

[opal sequoia]

How was your original comment constructive?

[vital quarry]

it was related to the question, at least, but it wasn't constructive. Neither was destructive imo

it was sort of "just think about it, guys"

a tiny little bit of linguistics

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, and how is that different from what other people said?

[hot cloak]

I don’t feel like saying that sth is strange is linguistics tbh

[vital quarry]

so, basically, you did find it offensive

[opal sequoia]

Alright, that's enough for me to tell that you're trolling.

[vital quarry]

what?

how?

[hot cloak]

@opal sequoia you’re strange 😒

[vital quarry]

what do you expect from me?

please tell me at least...

[opal sequoia]

@hot cloak WTF DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME YOU LITTLE *******

[hot cloak]

@opal sequoia 💜💜💜

[opal sequoia]

@hot cloak 💖 🌈 😘

[hot cloak]

I love the snake emoji

Heyo berzi

[vital quarry]

i spotted something objective and they all be like everyone can have their opinions
is "strange" such an offensive word? someone said they weren't offended and would have reacted the same way if i used a word like "peculiar" or "interesting" instead...

but yes, indeed i'm the one trolling and not you misjudging

[pallid kelp]

Nemokosch, I think you're upset because something unexpected sprouted from something you said and you felt no control over it, nor any usefulness for yourself. You need to realise that just because it happened because of something you said, it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with you personally. Nobody is offended and not everything needs to be useful to you personally to be of value, and even if something be of no value at all, that would be perfectly ok and there would be no need for you to attack it. I'll say no more because we'd otherwise go on forever and I have things to do.

[opal sequoia]

I guess he could be drunk.

Or she.

[vital quarry]

Look, who is offending who.

[hot cloak]

@opal sequoia oh please dont remind me of that guy lol

[vital quarry]

@pallid kelp ok then, just you know, the main value I wanted to add got completely overlooked just because I started up with "it's a bit strange", while for me it was just an unimportant setup to "this structure has inverted possession compared to meine Meinung and stuff like that"

[hot cloak]

@pallid kelp

even if sth be of no value
Did you just use subjunctive?

[pallid kelp]

how do you know it was overlooked? Do you have knowledge of what everyone who is reading perceives and doesn't perceive?

@hot cloak you noticed 😊

[vital quarry]

nah this was rather cynical, you say that everyone spots the important part and yet they react in an unrelated way, reacting to what i didn't want to be important

anyway, until i learn telepathy, i rather don't speak if these are the conclusions xd

[pallid kelp]

I think we hereby just proved that you are not in control of what other people derive from your actions or words, thus we proved that you're not omnipotent. Can we move on?

[vital quarry]

the main goal of communication isn't to be omnipotent

but understanding each other really should be

but you convinced me that these are equivalent, you can't get people understand you if they have different thoughts, okay, and even if they understood you, they are free to react in any unrelated way so you can't tell whether your goal even succeeded. it feels kinda motivating, we can move on ^^

[rich hatch]

[11:32] Suzu🍁: grabs cacao
It's cocoa @primal whale

although it's pronounces "cacao" in Russian/Ukrainian too
guess it's the same in Czech?

[pallid kelp]

i'm starting to think it's only cocoa in English tbh xD

[hot cloak]

@rich hatch you pinged a wrong person lol

[rich hatch]

...oh goddammit

I didn't even notice until you pointed it out lol

[hot cloak]

It’s cacao from now on!

[pallid kelp]

that just means you'll make a new friend

or enemy

both are fun to deal with

[rich hatch]

anime rival

both

also

I kinda like "cocoa" more tbh?

not sure why

[hot cloak]

It’s Kakao in german so let’s stick to that :^)

[rich hatch]

where did English steal "cocoa" from then?

[hot cloak]

English is just one huge mess

The cocoa bean or simply cocoa (/ˈkoʊ.koʊ/), which is also called the cacao bean or cacao (/kəˈkaʊ/),[1] is the dried and fully fermented seed of Theobroma cacao @rich hatch

[rich hatch]

ah lol

[hot cloak]

Cacao isn’t wrong!!!

[opal sequoia]

Yes, the cacao is for the plant/bean. Cocoa is for the drink though.

[rich hatch]

so its both

[hot cloak]

Noooooooo

[opal sequoia]

And the powder can be either.

[rich hatch]

English 👌🏽

[hot cloak]

WHY CANT THE DRINK BE BOTH TOO

[opal sequoia]

Dunno, mate.

[hot cloak]

ENGLISH IS SUCH A MESS

[opal sequoia]

Where I live people don't even use cocoa for the drink.

It's just hot chocolate.

[hot cloak]

Base i wanna hear you say dunno mate with a full asutralian accent in a vc

[pallid kelp]

a cacao drink ;)

a drink ultimately made of cacao

[hot cloak]

I thought hot chocolate was made from chocolate and cacao is powder + milk?????

[pallid kelp]

no dummy

it's made of chocolate + hot

[hot cloak]

That’s what i meant

Wait

So chocolate + berzi?

[opal sequoia]

A drink which is formulated in part from ingredients originally gathered from the plant known by some as the cacao tree.

That's what we call it.

[pallid kelp]

👌

anyway Suzu the australian accent is really easy to write down:

dunno mate becomes dunno m8

done

r8 my accent Base m8

[opal sequoia]

Do you know what chocolate is made of, Zuzu?

[hot cloak]

I thought hot chocolate would be more chocolate-y!

[opal sequoia]

Nuh.

[hot cloak]

disappointed

[opal sequoia]

You can make it with chocolate though.

[hot cloak]

I wanna hear base’s accent tho

[opal sequoia]

White hot chocolate is better when made with white chocolate.

[hot cloak]

White chocolate is too sweet for me >.>

[opal sequoia]

Mmm, white hot chocolate is delicious. 😻

[hot cloak]

👀

I’m more into dark chocolate

[opal sequoia]

That's fine.

I have some dark chocolate kit kat here.

[pallid kelp]

dark chocolate represent 💪

I snack every day with a slice of bread around a couple blocks of dark chocolate

[opal sequoia]

I like all chocolates. 😔

As long as you don't put it with caramel or peanut butter. Those are things which I don't like.

[hot cloak]

So reese’s?

[opal sequoia]

Yuck.

[hot cloak]

I found those quite nice :D

[opal sequoia]

Peanut butter with chocolate is really unpleasant to me. 😔

[hot cloak]

Talking about chocolate

[arctic atlas]

yeah here i am

[hot cloak]

I’m craving some crepes with chocolate and banana now :3

Naaa syro :3

[arctic atlas]

Naaa Suzu :3

[opal sequoia]

Hmm.

I don't know if it's different in other places, but I would say it's better to use "speaking of" instead of "talking about" for that usage, Suzu.

[hot cloak]

Hmmm, yeah, speaking of sounds better 🤔

Thanks base

[arctic atlas]

nie hast du lob für einen übrig schüttle meinen Kopf Base

[opal sequoia]

It's fine. It's not really wrong the other way, but every time you use it, I have to think for a moment to realize what you mean.

[hot cloak]

Base

But i want you to talk about chocolate banana crepes!

[opal sequoia]

Sounds delicious. 😻

[hot cloak]

I think adding a bit of yoghurt might also be yummy! :3

[opal sequoia]

I probably would rather a lemon and sugar crepe or maybe something like raspberry or something.

Strawberry and chocolate. 🤔

[hot cloak]

Mmmmm lemon sugar crepes also sound delicious 🤤

[opal sequoia]

[hot cloak]

The french also make salty crepes 🤤

[opal sequoia]

Idk what you mean by that.

Savoury crepes?

[hot cloak]

Like not sweet?

[opal sequoia]

Oh yeah. That's savoury.

[hot cloak]

Crepes + veggies/ham/cheese/eggs etc

Oh i didn’t know savoury was used like that

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, it basically means "not sweet".

In terms of flavour categories.

Cause you can have non-salty savoury foods.

[hot cloak]

I had a crepe with spinach and an egg and it was delicious 🤤

[opal sequoia]

😮

[little pecan]

hi. could any one be nice and check a paragraph i have written in deutsch and look for mistakes 😃

[opal sequoia]

Feel free to post it in #writing and someone will hopefully get a chance to look at it.

[hot cloak]

Post it in #writing in a google doc

[little pecan]

ok thanks 😃

[hot cloak]

Yw

I gotta learn how to make crepes tho, ive never tried before

I also wanna learn the fancy flip technique

[opal sequoia]

Yeah.

I'm happy to be taste tester.

[hot cloak]

💜💜

I really wish i had a taste tester tho

I like trying new recipes but every time i cook sth, i have to eat it a few days which sucks :<

[opal sequoia]

Oh yeah.

Same for me.

[hot cloak]

You dont have flatmates?

[opal sequoia]

No, lol.

[hot cloak]

Yeah, cooking for one person sucks :<

Base come to germany, we can try new recipes together!

[opal sequoia]

I will.

[hot cloak]

Ohhhhhh!!! :o

[opal sequoia]

We can be roommates and take turns cooking. 😻

[hot cloak]

Yeah!! 😍

[hot cloak]

@ivory jolt @strange lily
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/member-of-vietnamese-delegation-naps-during-the-general-news-photo/1040072846

I find it sad

[mossy igloo]

Kann jemand für mich kochen?

[nocturne frost]

Come over and pay for the ingredients

[primal whale]

was willst du als Abendessen haben?

[radiant matrix]

🤔

[desert pecan]

what kind of bild is that lol

van gogh original?

[radiant matrix]

the one linked above

[desert pecan]

ah lol

looks like it's a bulk discount

[crimson bone]

Hello guys please help! All sites work as well except dict.cc not working (Note:I'm using chrome Browser)

[silver orbit]

Just go to advance and press continue anyway

Or use incognito

[crimson bone]

I did now but site displayed in strange look

[silver orbit]

Why don't you just download Firefox?

[desert pecan]

doubt that's the issue

something's wrong with the connection

[silver orbit]

Nah it's not the connection at all, it's prompting a security threat

Whether the browser is on super high alert to any webpage at all or a virus got into the browser somehow

[hot cloak]

alright, please dont spread false information. the only issue here is that the cert authority for this website is invalid

[crimson bone]

No, its fresh copy of windows i installed yesterday and i have bitdefender antivirus

[silver orbit]

@hot cloak by what he said in #german-only apparently every website

[crimson bone]

Not all websites, its only dict.cc

[desert pecan]

how is the cert authority invalid, works for everyone else

[hot cloak]

if your system time is off, this can happen

turn your antivirus off, check your time, then try again

[desert pecan]

then that's not the CA's fault

[hot cloak]

lad, its an SHA1 hash type mismatch, please dont tell me im wrong lmao

[crimson bone]

Its not off, date and time is working properly

[hot cloak]

turn your antivirus off for a second and check your website please

[desert pecan]

PKCS #1 SHA-256 mit RSA-Verschlüsselung? don't see sha-1

[hot cloak]

just to validate one of my points, the same behaviour can be replicated by setting your system date past the exp date of the cert

[desert pecan]

yeah that's common knowledge

I was just talking about the hash algo you said sha1

[hot cloak]

cool

@crimson bone still not working?

[crimson bone]

Unfortunately website opened in strange look can't even search a word

[hot cloak]

are you still getting the same error

I know who to ask now when i have a pc problem i kinda feel like a grandma now 👀

[desert pecan]

I had this problem often at public connections (e.g. school), still don't really know what the issue is. Even weirder that it's only one website. For the meantime you can use linguee perhaps

[crimson bone]

I used to this site because it has clearly voice of pronunciations

[desert pecan]

linguee isn't bad either iirc

[crimson bone]

Bro i use many i use deepl and google translate but i need dict too

[desert pecan]

yep those two things you mentioned aren't like dict/linguee

[crimson bone]

I opened website on my phone and it works fine

But i need help for this on my computer also

[desert pecan]

just go through a proxy if nothing else works

https://www.proxysite.com/

[crimson bone]

Sorry i need authentic fix of that problem

[desert pecan]

other than date/time, antivirus, some malware perhaps, or missing root certificates I can't think of anything else

oh and internet provider

where are you connecting from?

[hot cloak]

have you tried using edge to see if it's your browser

or any extension blocking it

[crimson bone]

@hot cloak edge!!

[hot cloak]

?

is that a yes

[crimson bone]

No

Not understand

[hot cloak]

internet explorer was renamed to edge at some point

in 10

[crimson bone]

iE already installed on my windows 7

[hot cloak]

yeah

[desert pecan]

oh damn link broken

wait

[crimson bone]

Let me see

Same problem

[desert pecan]

ok

this should be the right link

http://media.kaspersky.com/utilities/CorporateUtilities/rootsupd.zip

and then follow this

https://www.tecklyfe.com/restore-missing-invalid-root-certificates-windows/

gtg, please ping if it works (I don't use Windows daily anymore) @crimson bone

[crimson bone]

@desert pecan ok bro

[sturdy shadow]

Hi friends

[rich hatch]

hii

[proper shale]

Hi

[fossil nova]

hi

[hot cloak]

нi

[sturdy pumice]

Hi

[proper shale]

ｈｉ

[desert pecan]

hhi

[nocturne frost]

who in this thread smokes weed

[proper shale]

It's so warm here oof

Weathers absolutely beautiful

[nocturne frost]

lucky 😒

enjoy it while it lasts tho!!

[proper shale]

Thankthank

Heckie the food here's amazing you should come

[hot cloak]

Forum Romanum?

[sudden panther]

No, not a forum, this is Discord.

[hot cloak]

Discord Germanum?

[proper shale]

Yess neel

Goodo jobbo

[hot cloak]

Thanko

You should visit the baths of caracella and the Appian way

I'd recommend both

[proper shale]

Are those in this forum Park b it

Today's our last day here so :/

[hot cloak]

Ah shame

[nocturne frost]

@proper shale I know it's legit my dream to move to Italy and die fat

[proper shale]

@nocturne frost me too tbh

[frank sundial]

https://imgur.com/0Id7q1l

I mean, I can see why but really?

[solar latch]

wow that's like £80 more than the ones at my uni

and the one i'm doing is two terms not one

but yeah i'm sure that's a typo

[south latch]

language courses at ur uni cost money? @solar latch

[solar latch]

yeah - i'm talking about evening classes not like optional modules

[south latch]

oh ok

[frank sundial]

yeah realise it was a typo 😃 just thought it was a bit funny. That courses advertises itself as not having any requirements, so technically it doesn't require any prior french knowledge is accurate

[solar latch]

lol

[frank sundial]

There are a few evening/weekend courses around me. There is an evening one for like £160 I think

But that's 2 hours for 20 weeks.

[hot cloak]

@hot cloak what’s your beefy beef?

[nocturne frost]

LOL

[hot cloak]

im just too beefy

Willste Beef Alter?