general-2

[gusty linden]

Wusste ich auch nicht, bis ich versucht hab das zu entziffern

[hot cloak]

Ich schaue mal, ob ich noch eine Regenhose habe, dann bin ich wetterfest.

ohje, danke Leute

Ich glaube, weniger Kommasetzung, dann würde es fast gut ausschauen.

[gusty linden]

Achten Sie daher bitte auf Ihren Wegen, wo Sie sich bewegen und vermeiden Sie gegebenenfalls lange Aufenthalte im Freien -- gerade wenn Sie Ihren Feierabend antreten und sich auf dem Weg nach Hause begeben.

Es war aber richtig gut, dadurch etwas mehr Zeit zum lernen zu haben.

[hot cloak]

Achten Sie daher bitte auf Ihren Wagen und worauf Sie sich bewegen. Vermeiden Sie gegebenenfalls lange Aufenthalte im Freien, vor allem dann wenn Sie Ihren Feierabend antreten und sich auf dem Weg nach Hause begeben.

[pine ginkgo]

ich glaube nicht, dass da ein fehler war

oder ich bin blind

[gusty linden]

das fünfte Wort von hinten

[hot cloak]

?

[pine ginkgo]

uh, es ist doch auf dem weg befinden?

ich befinde mich auf dem weg nach hause

[gusty linden]

Ja, aber auf den Weg begeben 😃

[pine ginkgo]

oh

ooooh

[gusty linden]

Spitzfindigkeiten, ich weiß

[pine ginkgo]

ich trottel

:D

[hot cloak]

😭

[gusty linden]

Sowas passiert 😄

[hot cloak]

ok, ich gebe es auf

xd

Deutsch ist nichts für mich

[pine ginkgo]

haha

du bist schon so weit, da kannste nimma aufgeben^^

[gusty linden]

Ach, komm schon, @hot cloak 😄 Das sind alles Fehler, die Muttersprachlern passieren

[hot cloak]

Alles für die Katz

[gusty linden]

Da musst du dich jetzt wirklich nicht dran messen

[hot cloak]

wenn ich es nicht richtig kann, dann bringt es auch nichts.

Es muss perfekt sein, wie soll ich wissenschaftliche Arbeiten formulieren^^ schade..

ich habe gehofft, dass ich es mittlerweile besser kann.

auf den Weg..ich habe echt schon so oft, auf dem Weg gelesen.

aber, natürlich stimmt das.

[gusty linden]

Ja, auf dem Weg ist ja auch nicht grundsätzlich falsch

[hot cloak]

ich verstehe nicht, da ist man so nah am Ziel und kann sich mit den Menschen unterhalten, aber dann machen diese Kleinigkeiten alles wieder zu nichte.

An diesen Sachen wird man dann gemessen und nicht für voll genommen.

[gusty linden]

Ja, das kann frustrierend sein, das kenn ich selbst auch

[hot cloak]

Meine Theorie: Auch Muttersprachler machen viele Fehler. Wenn ich mich dann mit solchen Unterhalte, lerne ich die Fehler mit. Die Sprache ist schwer, aber weil so viele internationale Einflüsse auf die Sprache einwirken, nehmen viele Eingeborene die Fehler mit und wenden diese in die aktiven Unterhaltungen an.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh, "ein problem" ist es auch, wenn ich z.b. mit anderen muttersprachlern rede, dann achte ich nicht sooo sehr auf korrektheit

du merkst ja schon, wie ich zur zeit groß und kleinschreibung nicht beachte^^

[hot cloak]

Eben^^

Wir können uns darauf verständigen, dass korrektes Schreiben im aktiven gebrauch verpönt ist.

[pine ginkgo]

wenn du ein "b"-lerner wärst

[shy bobcat]

Die fehler die muttersprachler machen sind ja auch anders als die die lerner machen

😄

[pine ginkgo]

würde ich drauf achten, alles konform zu schreiben^^

[hot cloak]

xD

Nettes Paradoxon

[gusty linden]

Unterschiedliche Leute sind echt unterschiedlich drauf. Ich habe schon mit jemandem gesprochen, der mich ermahnt hat, weil ich gesagt habe "Das macht Sinn", er aber der festen Überzeugung war, dass es "Das ergibt Sinn" heißen muss

[pine ginkgo]

ja, aber heutzutage ist "Das macht Sinn" so tief drin im duetschen, dass es ja egal ist

[hot cloak]

Weil ich mich perfekt mit Mutterspracher artikulieren kann, werden diese faul und versuchen nicht korrektes Deutsch anzuwenden.

[pine ginkgo]

es wird so massiv synonym zu "Das ergibt Sinn" verwendet, dass es jetzt auch einfach dadurch ersetzt werden kann

[hot cloak]

Dadurch verschlechtert sich mein Deutsch.

[pine ginkgo]

:D

wenn du willst, achte ich dann ein bisl mehr drauf, alles richtig zu schreiben

[hot cloak]

Mein Gott.. Warum kann ich kein perfektes Deutsch!

[shy bobcat]

Ich bin auf englisch auch ein bisschen salopp mit meiner rechtschreibung bzw. grammatik, unter muttersprachlern sowie unter lernern weil natürliche sprache mMn wichtiger als "richtige" ist im Internet 😄

[pine ginkgo]

aber es ist halt angenehmer "normal" zu schreiben, als "korrekt"

[shy bobcat]

^^

[gusty linden]

Verpönt ist es meiner Meinung nach absolut nicht, korrekt zu schreiben. Am Handy, im Spiel, etc. achten die meisten Leute nicht drauf

Es würde auffallen, aber nicht unbedingt negativ

[hot cloak]

Es wäre angenehmer, wenn alle perfekt schreiben würden. Im englischen machen es die Leute ja, aber auch nur deshalb, weil auf die Sprache keine Einflüsse, wirken.

[gusty linden]

Das stimmt ja gar nicht xD

[shy bobcat]

perfekt schreiben
englisch

heheheeheheh

[hot cloak]

ß?

Im Englischen

das stimmt

[shy bobcat]

hast du mal einen einzigen englischsprachigen gesehen

[pine ginkgo]

weniger kommas :D

du hast grade dein verb aus deiner klausel gekickt :P

[hot cloak]

hmm ich habe glaube ich alles richtig geschrieben

[gusty linden]

Ich bekomme regelmäßig WA-Nachrichten von einem Arbeitskollegen aus Indien, der schreibt nur in Abkürzungen

[shy bobcat]

wenn du echt denkst dass englischsprachige alles richtig schreiben täuschst du dich mega 🤣

[hot cloak]

Ari, kannst du mir sagen, wo meine Fehler waren????????

[gusty linden]

"how r u", "srsly", "Finally whr u wanna go?"

[hot cloak]

man sagt: Im Englischen

[shy bobcat]

@gusty linden ne textspeak meine ich nicht 😄

ich meine ehh

[gusty linden]

they're/their/there

[shy bobcat]

"their you go, were did you put that"

[pine ginkgo]

COULD OF

[shy bobcat]

ja genau

[fluid horizon]

Oh gosh

this english

[hot cloak]

"Es wäre angenehmer, wenn alle perfektes Deutsch schreiben würden. Im englischen machen es die Leute ja, aber auch nur deshalb, weil auf die Sprache keine Einflüsse wirken.
"

Ari meint ich hätte es falsch geschrieben

[gusty linden]

im Englischen, auf Englisch, kann man beides schreiben @hot cloak

[hot cloak]

ok

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo ^^ laut einigen Sprachwissenschaftlern ist das irgendwie sogar kein Fehler mehr, weil so viele Leute das machen—etwas mit Reanalysierung des "of" als Partikel und kein "have" mehr, alles ein bisschen Quatsch mMn aber die sind halt die Wissenschaftler 😄

[gusty linden]

Ach KINNERS, warum bin ich eigentlich noch wach

[pine ginkgo]

na ja, man kann das so sehen, teeeis

ich verstehe, warum die das sagen

[shy bobcat]

ich auch

[pine ginkgo]

akzeptieren muss man das nicht

aber ich verstehe es

[hot cloak]

weil wir dich hier brauchen lieber Fabian

[gusty linden]

Gute Nacht 🌛

[shy bobcat]

macht es trotzdem nicht richtiger 😛

[hot cloak]

gute Nacht;>

[shy bobcat]

"could have" ist ja nicht so schwierig zu schreiben <_>

vllt sind die gegen "have" allergisch

[whole rapids]

it should of been there time

[hot cloak]

vllt?

[pine ginkgo]

das problem im deutschen ist, wir können nicht so "klar" sagen, wann es dialektisch ist

[hot cloak]

vielleicht?

[shy bobcat]

ja

[pine ginkgo]

und wann falsch :P

[shy bobcat]

😛

[hot cloak]

heisst es im Deutschen oder im deutschen?

[shy bobcat]

vlt oder vllt übrigens 🤔

für vielleicht

[hot cloak]

ah ok

[shy bobcat]

ne, frage welche ist besser 😛

[pine ginkgo]

wemma so jetze schreibe unso, isset dann falsch oda nua dialekt?

[torn kindle]

Luna geh weg

[hot cloak]

also xD ist es im Deutschen oder im deutschen?

[pine ginkgo]

du mich auch, sesky

[hot cloak]

Es ist wichtig für mich^^

[torn kindle]

geil.

[pine ginkgo]

Deutschen

[hot cloak]

^^

warum schreibst du es dann klein?xD sry war nur verwirrt

[pine ginkgo]

weil ich nicht noch nicht angefangen habe, korrekt zu schreiben

:)

[hot cloak]

oh gott,^^ genau solche Sachen verwirren mich dann

xD ne, mal im Ernst. Deutsch ist echt ein harter Brocken.

[torn kindle]

Er ist ein Assi.

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo sieht dialekt aus mmn, wie kann man das anders betrachten

🤔

[hot cloak]

mmn

meiner Meinung nach

[pine ginkgo]

sesky 😦

[hot cloak]

Dialekt

[torn kindle]

Naw sorry

<3

[hot cloak]

also ich korrigiere ab jetzt alles..^^

und dann sagt mir jemand, ob ich es richtig mache.

Wenn ich damit nerve..

sry

[torn kindle]

Alles gut :D

[pine ginkgo]

du lebst ja jetzt in der Schweiz, ne?

[hot cloak]

yup

[pine ginkgo]

du musst ja wirklich kirre werden :D

[hot cloak]

bin ich schon

[torn kindle]

xD

mein Beileid

[hot cloak]

Schweizerdeutsch als Störrfaktor

kp, wie ich perfektes Deutsch lernen soll

[pine ginkgo]

Deutsch zu lernen hilft leider nicht so gut, um in der Schweiz zu leben^^

[hot cloak]

xd

leider nicht^^

es nervt extrem xD

vor allem, wenn die Schweizer kein Hochdeutsch sprechen möchten

weil ihr Schweizerdeutsch etwas heiliges ist^^

[pine ginkgo]

du musst ja dann auch sehr aufpassen, dass du nicht außersehen ein ß schreibst :)

[hot cloak]

genau

xd

AUf jeden fall bin ich kein Assi / spassxD

glaube aus dem Deutschlevel bin ich schon raus

obwohl

ich höre mich halt geschwollen an, weil ich immer versuche, gut zu sprechen xD

Symphatiepunkte bekommt man so nicht^^

aber wie soll man sonst richtig lernen

[pine ginkgo]

haste jetzt ja auch das problem... mit Hochdeutsch kommst du in der Schweiz nicht so gut voran, aber du willst es trotzdem besser können

[hot cloak]

du musst ja dann auch sehr aufpassen, dass du nicht außversehen ein ß schreibst 😃

[pine ginkgo]

Aber Schweizerdeutsch brauchst du eigentlich in der Schweiz, aber das hilft nicht so viel für Hochdeutsch

[hot cloak]

gar nicht^^

wie gesagt, es stört im Alltag.

wenn ihr Fehler findet, dann bestraft mich bitte. Also immer her mit den bösen Sprüchen und wie schlecht ich schreibe, so werde ich motiviert(und andere vielleicht auch)

[tribal warren]

@opal sequoia wanna do some readings "tomorrow"?

[opal sequoia]

Sure, Berg.

[tribal warren]

i.e. in about 10 hours or something

[opal sequoia]

What shall we read?

[tribal warren]

it's your time to pick now

I picked the last time =p

[opal sequoia]

Okie.

I will think about it.

[tribal warren]

okayy

I'mma go to bed then

see you in 8~10 hours

depends on how much I sleep

prob like 9

[opal sequoia]

Schlaf gut!

Not sure when I will be awake so if I'm not, you will have to wait around a bit.

[pine ginkgo]

@tribal warren go dude

[tribal warren]

GO WHAT

😄

We're reading in 20 minutes

[pine ginkgo]

what

you said you were going to eat 20 minutes ago

[tribal warren]

I know

I just finished eating

But back then Base said in an hour cause Foxxo and Pferd want to join

and they'll only join in in 20 minutes

[whole rapids]

what, I can join now

[fluid horizon]

Hi

[tribal warren]

Okay so we just need foxxo and base to confirm now

[pine ginkgo]

do you have text yet?

:D

[tribal warren]

we didn't decide xD

I just told Base that I'd read whatever he wants

Maybe we could do news or something

[pine ginkgo]

i wish i had better stories to give you

but i don't think i can write a story with the text being suitable for learners 🤔

[tribal warren]

it's fine

we could just do Grimm's again or do that one news website with short texts

[pine ginkgo]

would be fun if you did my texts

but you will end in despair :D

[tribal warren]

haha

you really want us too, huh

[pine ginkgo]

hehehe

[opal sequoia]

Like I said, I do have some texts we can read.

[pine ginkgo]

i would never

[opal sequoia]

But since it seemed like everyone else had something they wanted to read, I was waiting to see if they would actually link the one they wanted to read.

[tribal warren]

welp I don't have any preference really

at least not for content

it'd just be cooler if it was B Level

[pine ginkgo]

i wish i still had my old notes from years ago :(

[opal sequoia]

Are you ready to read now?

[tribal warren]

I'm ready

@whole rapids come to us bb

[whole rapids]

okay one moment

[opal sequoia]

@tribal warren http://web.lemuria.org/~tom/buecher/Tatort DaF/Verschollen in Berlin/Verschollen in Berlin.pdf

@tribal warren https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pX0JO_Rcfd21k21bmxt5Ymdn-0ItqbDD/view

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pX0JO_Rcfd21k21bmxt5Ymdn-0ItqbDD

[tribal warren]

@hot cloak wo bist du

[pine ginkgo]

@hot cloak foxxoooo

[hot cloak]

Ich komme!!

[sudden panther]

One day discord will start scrolling properly. :^)

[fluid horizon]

Same

[cold vessel]

Maybe that day it will finally be better than IRC

[red pewter]

@sudden panther discord scrolls fine on browser. the PC app doesn't. such a pain

[sudden panther]

Yeah. 😦 Who uses the browser version though. 😛

[red pewter]

me because of the stupid scrolling 😦

[shy bobcat]

😦

[hot cloak]

meh just hit enter once and you're good to go

[hidden kelp]

My 16 yo female cousin is asking my advice on how to date a 22 yo male police

Gotta "love" my country

Would any of you guys may be wanna adopt me?

[cold vessel]

🤔

[whole rapids]

Tell her about the age rule.

Half age plus seven rule: In dating/romantic/intimate relationships, the age of the younger person should not be less than half the age of the older person plus seven years.

she violates that rule

therefore no dating for her

[hidden kelp]

Hmm, I told her about the law as in it is illegal for a 16 yo to date 22 yo

Wouldn't it be enough? 🤔

[valid ice]

nah

if he's a decent human he'll tell her to get to fuck

if not just tell her to use protection and tell her parents when she goes out 👍🏻

[whole rapids]

different morals in Turkey tho

[hidden kelp]

It is Turkey, everyone is hungry for sex @hollow blaze

[valid ice]

[hidden kelp]

99% of adult human males are pieces of shits

[hidden kelp]

Oh

In Turkey it is

Forgot to add that

[whole rapids]

An hour later: oh shit, I better clarify

[hidden kelp]

Yeah was looking at the channels and then realized it xD

[orchid shale]

I only know 1 Turkish German and he happens to be one of the nicest people I ever met though.

Damn I miss my friends

[hot cloak]

Hallo

[blissful lichen]

@hidden kelp your perspective on humans aligns with mine and therefore I think you are smart and I like you

one day i hope to commiserate with you on the sorry state that we nearly hairless primates have created of the world

[scarlet dome]

getrole Level A

[viral thunder]

:heavy_check_mark: Given you the Level A role.

[fluid horizon]

Hallo @shy bobcat

[shy bobcat]

hallo

[fluid horizon]

Wie gehts?

[shy bobcat]

müde

trotzdem ok

dir

[fluid horizon]

Tired?

Otherwise okay?

[shy bobcat]

mhm 😦

[fluid horizon]

Es geht mir schlecht.

[shy bobcat]

oh 😦

warum

[fluid horizon]

I’m not gonna try to answer in german

My hip hurts really badly

And I think I’m getting my sciatica back

[lost dagger]

uh oh

i'm sorry =[

[fluid horizon]

My body is fucked up :/

I’m 18 with sciatica

[shy bobcat]

😮 😦

[fluid horizon]

Yep

Life’s great right now 👍👍👍👍👍👍

not at all I’m just in pain on this drive home

s:

[shy bobcat]

😦

[fluid horizon]

Yep..

[shy bobcat]

don't know what sciatica means but 😦

[lost dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx9-qSm9-Gw&list=PLDC4F19C913DE2C90&index=20 yuck

[fluid horizon]

Pinching of a nerve

[lost dagger]

it means your hip nerve is hecked up

or maybe not hip, i'm not sure but somewhere in that area I think

[fluid horizon]

Yea it’s more glute area

Connects into the back and down the leg

[lost dagger]

ah yeah, I think that's what I was thinking of

[fluid horizon]

The sciatic nerve

And it’s just pain and tbh I want to cry

Maybe not so much from the pain but that I wish I️t would go away

[shy bobcat]

😦 ❤

[fluid horizon]

It’s just been this entire ride and I really just want to sleep..

[pine ginkgo]

@whole rapids you made grave mistake

you didn't confirm if floop has time

[whole rapids]

feels bad

I remember next time

[opal sequoia]

@shy bobcat I get what you're saying but you've been doing it for several days, so I feel like I should point it out.

[shy bobcat]

Kk 😉

[opal sequoia]

Why the wink?

[shy bobcat]

Wrong emoji

😄

[opal sequoia]

Okay.

[shy bobcat]

Damn frequent list and fat fingers

😦

[cold vessel]

😉

[opal sequoia]

Np.

[sudden panther]

Ban everyone.

[opal sequoia]

You make a good point, Arreng. 🤔

[placid heath]

Sounds fine

[shy bobcat]

[placid heath]

[valid ice]

Especially ban Base for reasons 😶

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

[ocean robin]

So Baserino, that is the math exercise I need to do for tommorow. It basically says that:
"In an orthonormal coordinate system, we give the points (i am too lazy to give the coordinates of the points again)

1. Place the points R, S,T and U.
2. Prove that T is the middle point of [RS].
   3a. Trace the parallel line of (RU) passing by T. Justify that it cuts the segment [SU] in its middle V. (the part I didn't do yet and I am quite confused about how I should proceed)
   3b. Calculate the coordinates of V.

Let's go. :)

[opal sequoia]

Wait, what happened with U?

[ocean robin]

🤔

let me see again

So U is always here and didn't move at all, nah.

[opal sequoia]

What is the x coord of U?

[ocean robin]

U is (4;1) so x is 4

[opal sequoia]

And where did you draw it?

[ocean robin]

Ops 👀

I switched and drew (1;4) instead D:

[opal sequoia]

Yeah. You have to make sure to double check these things.

[ocean robin]

I have to draw it again then

[opal sequoia]

What is your method for double checking that you wrote the coordinates correctly?

[ocean robin]

Well I did check, but I don't know if it was quite appropriate though; I just checked if I did put the right coordinates (and was maybe a little bit forgetful about U, because I just checked it again quite quickly since the teacher was also saying things while I was doing it) but yep. I messed up on U.

[opal sequoia]

But what is your method?

How do you do the checking?

[ocean robin]

Mmmh. 🤔

looking at the coordinates on the book and then see at first for x and then y for each point

[opal sequoia]

Okay.

A good way to do it is to trace your finger on the paper when you check. Trace along the x line until you get to 4, then trace up to 1.

Then you always know you are doing them in the right order.

Instead of just looking at the numbers.

So try that now.

Because you also messed up another one of the points.

[ocean robin]

D:

oh yes

[opal sequoia]

Oh?

[ocean robin]

Wait, which one is it 🤔

I thought I found out but nope

[opal sequoia]

Well, check them each and tell me.

[ocean robin]

I have absolutely no idea. I think I am reading wrong then, because I don't see which point is false. 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Okay, that's good. They are all correct.

But you have to check like that when you do a test or homework.

[ocean robin]

Oki dokie.

So I'll do the calculus again because it's false then 🤔

wait

nah it's okay

[opal sequoia]

Calculus?

[ocean robin]

Maybe using the wrong term. D:

[opal sequoia]

Calculation?

[ocean robin]

Yeah, calculation in this case.

[opal sequoia]

Okie. Well, I have a tip for you.

When you are writing out your questions, you should write the details for the question somewhere at the top or side.

Like for the graph, next to it you can put U = (4, 1) and S = (2, 5) and so on.

[ocean robin]

oh yeah

I did this once and it was pretty useful, dunno why I didn't do it there 🤔

[opal sequoia]

And for the second one, you should say at the start (Xa, Ya) = (..., ...)

[pine ginkgo]

it's always useful

please make it a habit, flopser

[opal sequoia]

Yep, you want someone to be able to understand the homework even without the homework sheet.

[ocean robin]

I will, Solet

Yeah, I always write formulas first for calculations like that

[opal sequoia]

You didn't in the picture though.

[ocean robin]

🤔

yes I did

[opal sequoia]

Where do the values you put in for Xa, Xb, Ya, Yb come from?

Xa = 4, but why?

It doesn't say.

[ocean robin]

Oh yeah :o

So you are saying that I should write Xa = 4, Xb = 2 and so on?

[opal sequoia]

Yeah but you can just write it like this: R = (4;-1) = (Xa, Ya)

[ocean robin]

oh yeah

So I am going to draw the coordinates again and then do 3a

I was pretty confused on this one because I didn't know how to prove it was the middle, do I use again this formula?

[opal sequoia]

Well, draw it out first and then see if that helps you come up with a plan.

[sudden panther]

A Flops, a plan, a canal, Paspolfa.

[ocean robin]

So I did it again.

[tribal warren]

you did what?

[ocean robin]

I did that.

Nah, scroll up a bit and you'll understand.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, one sec. I have to check the mail. Check all your points and lines while I'm gone. And explain your method.

[sudden panther]

Flops for the love of all that is holy formal, label your axes.

[ocean robin]

oki

So how I can explain the points, huh 🤔

[tribal warren]

what's the exercise supposed to be?

[sudden panther]

Something in French. I'll give you a tldr.

Honhonhon escargot omelette du fromage honhon please don't call me psykokwak.

[ocean robin]

arrem plox

[tribal warren]

Which item are you at?

[sudden panther]

1. 

[tribal warren]

R,S,T,U, but you did R,S,V,U

wot

oh yea btw label your axis

[ocean robin]

And the coordinates are respectively R (4;-1), S (2;5), T (3;2) and U(4;1)

and I forgot a point lol

🤔

Yeah, I erased it while I was drawing my line because it wasn't straight and I don't know how to draw straight lines with a ruler

[fair iron]

You put the ruler flat on a surface, and then you run a pen along its edge.

[sudden panther]

Wow Casca. Did you go to ruler school? 😮

[ocean robin]

Yeah Casca, I know, the theory is easy but I am difficult :^)

[fair iron]

I lived in Britain, they have a history of rulers.

[tribal warren]

Floop aren't you the drawing master

you should do it without the ruler

[sudden panther]

You have no idea how difficult you are, Flops.

[ocean robin]

lol

[fair iron]

You're not difficult, you're lovely.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Well I am back.

[ocean robin]

So Baserino.

I forgot a point so I am going to post a picture again

[opal sequoia]

Okay, no problemo.

[sudden panther]

Cool. I went to ruler school once, but all they taught me was how to rule countries. Which is why I can't use a ruler today. 😦

[ocean robin]

As for the lines, the red one is parallel with [UR] and the orange one is [SU] and the one I must prove that V is its middle.

I am pretty proud to be able to talk about maths like this in English :^)

[opal sequoia]

It is impressive.

[sudden panther]

talk to me when yuo german

[ocean robin]

woah not now lel

[sudden panther]

https://giphy.com/gifs/site9gagcom-FajQgDG8g59Ju Flops & Arrim, 1922 colorized.

[opal sequoia]

😄

Too real.

[tribal warren]

xD

[ocean robin]

Lol that gif is so true

[tribal warren]

okay now justify

why is V the middle-point of SU? Floppery

[opal sequoia]

No, we should start at the start of the question.

[tribal warren]

oh

[opal sequoia]

Trace the line parallel to RU that passes through T.

[tribal warren]

oh yea there's T before, sorry

[ocean robin]

I wrote two R. Wow I am weird. 🤔

[sudden panther]

Wait what's T?

[tribal warren]

oh yea

[pine ginkgo]

T is (3,2)

[tribal warren]

where's T

[sudden panther]

Fokken Flop.

[pine ginkgo]

but she labelled shit

[ocean robin]

yes

[pine ginkgo]

:P

[tribal warren]

LOL

[ocean robin]

gonna post a picture again lel

[tribal warren]

yes

[ocean robin]

There :P

[tribal warren]

I wish I had that kind of paper

[sudden panther]

You don't?

[ocean robin]

It's not the one Frenchies usually use though

[tribal warren]

welp not right now

[opal sequoia]

It's called graph paper in normal countries.

[tribal warren]

and the tests I do don't give you the space to do it

[sudden panther]

Fokken Borgo. Fokken tests.

[tribal warren]

it's called papel quadriculado here

squared paper

[opal sequoia]

Ah, okay.

I still have a problem with this graph, Flappy.

[whole rapids]

It's called fokken paper here.

[opal sequoia]

A big problem.

[ocean robin]

D:

[pine ginkgo]

we call it kariert in germany

[sudden panther]

We call it squared paper too. Except most people say cubed because they're fucking stupid shits aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

[opal sequoia]

Please try drawing the line RS. With pencil, so you can erase it.

[tribal warren]

Here they just give you the question and a tiny empty space for you to get destroyed

[sudden panther]

Done, Base.

[pine ginkgo]

haha rekt

[sudden panther]

Impressive that you still haven't jumped off a building.

[ocean robin]

Like that?

[tribal warren]

Definitely

[sudden panther]

Now define parallel.

[tribal warren]

haha

[ocean robin]

The parallel now?

[opal sequoia]

😑

[ocean robin]

Aren't we doing 2?

[sudden panther]

Wait is 2 not the parallel one?

[opal sequoia]

No, Arrem.

[ocean robin]

nah, calculation

proving that T is the middle of [RS]

[pine ginkgo]

(you can let base do his things)

[opal sequoia]

But look at the distance between 0 and -1 on the y-axis.

[sudden panther]

Nevermind, I misread.

[pine ginkgo]

(since he started)

[ocean robin]

D:

[sudden panther]

(I am, I just thought she flopped up.)

[ocean robin]

3 squares isntead of 2 🤦

yes I did Arrem

[opal sequoia]

Did you wonder why you couldn't draw the line straight through T?

[ocean robin]

No

[opal sequoia]

I mean.

Look at what you drew, Flappy. It doesn't even pass through R.

[ocean robin]

I can't draw lines at all. 🤔

[opal sequoia]

It's not about your drawing.

Your line is straight.

[ocean robin]

It is, but it's not going through those two points.

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

Well, now that you fixed it, we can look at 3a.

[ocean robin]

weee \o/

So 3a. What is the good way to solve this one?

[opal sequoia]

It depends a little bit on how much detail your teacher wants. But let's just start with: what do you think is a good approach?

[clever steppe]

if you have a compass you can prove the midpoint of the line geometrically

[ocean robin]

Well I thought to do the calculation with the formula at first, and then see x and y of V on the graphic next, and see if it matches

[opal sequoia]

You can't just use the picture to show it. You have to try to do it with just maths.

[ocean robin]

I thought about that too 🤔

But how can we prove thay V is the middle with only maths? I am sure we have to do the formula, sure, but what next?

[opal sequoia]

Start with the formula.

[tribal warren]

I wouldn't even call it a formula

it's just something that makes a lot of sense

[opal sequoia]

Berg, it's a formula.

[tribal warren]

okay

[opal sequoia]

It's the equation for the midpoint of a line.

[tribal warren]

oh you're doing that

I thought you were doing the midpoint on a distance between two points

=p

[clever steppe]

i think the compass way is more fun

but whatever gets your rocks off

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, Berg. That's the same thing.

[tribal warren]

(I know it's the same I'm messing with ya)

[opal sequoia]

Oh okay.

[tribal warren]

I don't like calling it a formula tho, cause people sometimes like thinking of stuff as formulas so that they can memorize it even if it doesn't make sense to them

[opal sequoia]

Eh, it depends on the person. Some people have an easier time learning first with formulas and then understanding it after.

[tribal warren]

A lot of people just memorize stuff even though they don't understand why it is that way, though, and that's just a bad way of learning, tbh

[opal sequoia]

Okay, what should we call it then?

[tribal warren]

it's okay you can call it a formula, I just like using the definition tho

[ancient spade]

Convenient way of finding something

[tribal warren]

don't be mad at me =c

I like thinking of it like that

[opal sequoia]

Uh, okay, but we were just referring (within context) to the thing Flappy wrote on her homework earlier.

[clever steppe]

why did you delete it?

[tribal warren]

now erasing so that Flopps doesn't look where she's not intended

cause Flopps has to figure it out

[shy bobcat]

😄

[ancient spade]

But I see your point Berg, that's why I made a longer explanation earlier today

[pine ginkgo]

because flops should tell us, how she wants to do it

[clever steppe]

well she aint said shit in a while

[pine ginkgo]

it's normal

it's flops

we just pray she won't have forgotten what base said during her abscence :(

[opal sequoia]

😄

[tribal warren]

that are formulas that I have memorized that I don't really know how to demonstrate

but I won't lie that doing it would help understand it

but there are some trivial things that are best to understand than memorizing it

for instance, the midpoint in analytical geometry

That's my opinion.

[opal sequoia]

Again, Berg, we were just using the term to refer to what Flappy wrote on her homework earlier.

[tribal warren]

yea sure I'm just making a statement =p

[opal sequoia]

Good for you.

[ocean robin]

So this is wot I wrote for the first part of 3a.

[sudden panther]

omelette du po segment

[opal sequoia]

Okay, looks good. So now you know that the midpoint of SU is that point.

[tribal warren]

good job Flaps!

[opal sequoia]

But now you have to prove that the intersection of the red line and SU is the same point.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

So tell me your ideas of how to find this.

[ocean robin]

Well V isn't the middle of the red line, but we can say it has the same x as T...but then again, no help from the graphic 😦

oh maybe

[opal sequoia]

You can use all your points for the calculations. You just can't rely on the picture itself.

[ocean robin]

#questions

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, post in #questions or #general

[ocean robin]

Can we also say that we did a parralel which comes through T as the task said? 🤔

[clever steppe]

i feel like we are doing more work here than required

[fair iron]

*parallel. ^^

[clever steppe]

i thought we were done already

[ocean robin]

;___;

[clever steppe]

granted, i am on drugs

[ocean robin]

I can't spell that word lel

It's even worse in French

[opal sequoia]

That is a good approach, Flappy.

[placid heath]

Oh spelling parallel is easy. It's the same as in parallelepiped

[opal sequoia]

But how can you prove with maths that that's the case?

[ocean robin]

I wanted to draw a third line but nah, no graphic help 🤔

mmmh

We need to prove that they will never meet and have a point of intersection

[opal sequoia]

Okay, so let's start with the first part: parallel. What does it mean if that red line is parallel with RU?

[ocean robin]

Well, that means that they won't have a point of intersection (and hence won't cross each other) and that if we draw a third line, it will be obligatory a perpendicular line (my idea, but since we only do with maths it can't be counted here)

[opal sequoia]

Two parallel lines have the same _____.

[ocean robin]

Angle?

[opal sequoia]

Yes but something else.

[ocean robin]

I was going to say length but even if two lines don't have the same length they still can be parallel...

Mmmh.

[tribal warren]

theoretically they have the same size cause lines are infinite

[shy bobcat]

"lines" proper are of infinite length ^^

oh

[ocean robin]

yes

true

[tribal warren]

what you're thinking of is a segment

[ocean robin]

But segments can have different lengths

ah

I must think of something else 🤔

[clever steppe]

lets walk this back

what the defining characteristics of a line?

if you wanted to describe a line to someone, what information would you give them?

[ocean robin]

Well, its length isn't defined, it can have points, but the line will always go through them and continue indefinitely

[clever steppe]

ok, but just listing points isnt very descriptive, especially when you cant draw it out for them

[ocean robin]

🤔

Well it's a straight line

[clever steppe]

what the general equation for a line?

[ocean robin]

Huh?

[clever steppe]

if you had a line

[ocean robin]

Since when there is an equation for a line?

[clever steppe]

and wanted to know a y given an x

[ocean robin]

🤔

[clever steppe]

ok

teacher time

because this is important

[ocean robin]

I didn't learn that yet, I am sorry D:

But I should finish 3a

[clever steppe]

there is something called slope intercept form

[opal sequoia]

This homework should stay within the context of her current studies.

And not introduce new ideas.

[clever steppe]

its impossible to solve this problem without knowing this

[opal sequoia]

I don't think so.

[ocean robin]

Ah?

[clever steppe]

the fundamental information of a line are its slope, and the point it intersects the y axis

if you know that stuff, you can find any point on the line

[ocean robin]

We have learnt two fomulas so far. One for the middle of the point and the other for the length of a segment.

[clever steppe]

y = mx + b

[tribal warren]

Siafu

I think we should let Base tutor her

[clever steppe]

i think we should respect her intelligence

[tribal warren]

whatever

[ocean robin]

I like how 3b is "calculate the coordinates of V" but we already did it in 3a

[opal sequoia]

😄

That's true.

[clever steppe]

bottom line

two lines are parallel if they have the same slope

[ocean robin]

Slope? 🤔

[opal sequoia]

I'm not sure if your teacher wants a thorough proof or not, so it's just better to do it thoroughly anyway, you know?

[clever steppe]

angle, basically

i dont know the french word

[ocean robin]

Yeah, let's do that.

[lavish saddle]

pente?

[ocean robin]

pente in this case, but using angle is okay

[clever steppe]

when we first get taught slope, its described as "rise over run"

[ocean robin]

We never really say pente in maths

[lavish saddle]

heh

[clever steppe]

the distance you move up or down along a line divided by the distance you move right or left

[ocean robin]

I have learnt today that I am more productive at night. 🤔

[lavish saddle]

Like he said up earlier the y=mx+b formula is for finding le slopes

[ocean robin]

But wait.

[lavish saddle]

👍 I remember a little math from hs

[ocean robin]

You want to find the 90° angle?

[clever steppe]

ok

so again

im on drugs

so correct me if im wrong

[lavish saddle]

🤔

[ocean robin]

🤔

[clever steppe]

but i think the question was asking to prove two lines are parallel

percocet for my kidney stone

[ocean robin]

no

[clever steppe]

makes my brain cloudy

[lavish saddle]

oh ^^

[pine ginkgo]

the question is posted above

[clever steppe]

so far to scroll haha

i keep forgetting what it is

[ocean robin]

The question was to prove that V is the middle of [SU].

[clever steppe]

we did that already though

right?

[ocean robin]

Nah.

We know the coordinates but mathematically we don't know where V is.

[clever steppe]

its axiomatic

[ocean robin]

And I have no clue how to prove that.

[clever steppe]

using that equation is by definition the midpoint

[fair iron]

Flappy, check #gaming real quick. ❤

Which question is that, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

But we didn't learn it, is it okay to do it? 🤔

3a

[clever steppe]

if you find the average of S and U, that is the midpoint

theres only one other way to do it, and thats geometrically

[ocean robin]

I have to prove that a point is the middle mathematically but we don't know where it is when we don't have the graphic D:

[clever steppe]

yeah, you dont need the drawing

[ocean robin]

And I think that finding the middle is done after, because I think that's why 3b is relevant

[clever steppe]

if you follow the equation or whatever you want to call it, thats the proof in and of itself

[ocean robin]

*afterwards 🤔

thanks phone

[clever steppe]

ill be honest

that whole part has confusing wording to me

it wants you to draw a parallel line passing by T?

[ocean robin]

Yeah, we already did that

Then the intersection of the parallel and [SU] is V

and we need to prove thay V is the middle of this segment

[clever steppe]

i need to draw this, hold on haha

can you list the points for me so i dont have to scroll?

[clever steppe]

ok, i understand now

[ocean robin]

:O

[pine ginkgo]

uh

flops you didn't redraw it?

[ocean robin]

Maybe I have to say that the parallel has T and give the coordinates

I did, this is the final version

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

uhm

no

after base told you to redraw it again

since your -1 is wrong

[ocean robin]

oh yeah x.x

[tribal warren]

rip

[clever steppe]

i dont know what youve learned

[ocean robin]

there

[tribal warren]

-1 is still wrong

[pine ginkgo]

uhm

[opal sequoia]

😑

[pine ginkgo]

what did you do

flops

[clever steppe]

my justification would be that a line parallel to a base of a triangle that passes through the midpoint of one side is guaranteed to go through the midpoint of the third side

[ocean robin]

Wait what 🤔

[clever steppe]

so SUR is our triangle

and TV is parallel to the base RU

[ocean robin]

I put two squares between 0 and -1 there

Or I am maybe blind 🤔

[clever steppe]

looks like three squares from where im sitting

[pine ginkgo]

you put three squares, flops

you should only put two

[ocean robin]

But in this one I did put two

wait

[pine ginkgo]

in the one you posted?

no

[ocean robin]

both -1 are wrong

.<

the -1 on x and the one on y were both wrong

I just corrected the one on x

[opal sequoia]

Oh. 😄

[ocean robin]

:<

[opal sequoia]

Okay, now check all your points.

[ocean robin]

And then R is wrong. I like that.

[opal sequoia]

Hehe.

Yes, I don't know how you drew a "straight" line through STR when it's not possible. 🤔

[ocean robin]

The others are fine.

🤔

[opal sequoia]

(Before you fixed it that is)

[ocean robin]

oh yeah

But I am still thinking about 3a >.<

[opal sequoia]

Of course.

[ocean robin]

I was like "okay so we can say that there's a line passing through T"

[whole rapids]

is this vector stuff?

[opal sequoia]

Yep, you basically had the answer earlier.

[ocean robin]

but then we have to say that it cuts [SU]

Wait.

[opal sequoia]

Nuh, Pferd, just some line geometry.

[ocean robin]

scrolls up

[whole rapids]

oh right, I see now, she ain't got any directions

[opal sequoia]

When Flappy learns vectors, well, that will be a fun time. 😄

Probably not for a while though.

[pine ginkgo]

base i tell you a fun german word related to vectors

[whole rapids]

yeah, I think that's near the end of school

[clever steppe]

you could also say that drawing the line TV creates a smaller, similar triangle. Since SR is cut in half, so too must be SU. QED

[opal sequoia]

Yes, Luna?

[pine ginkgo]

windschief

have fun :p

[opal sequoia]

[placid heath]

Parallel, Schneidend, Windschief!

<3

[ocean robin]

What was the awnser to 3a? ;__;

[placid heath]

awnser

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

You have almost got it, Flappy. What you just said is pretty close.

[valid ice]

pwnser 8)

[ocean robin]

OH

But then we must say that it cuts [SU]

and how 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Well, you know that it is parallel to the other line.

What I said before, well, I didn't know you hadn't learned it yet. But we can put it in a simpler way.

What kind of lines are they? The red one and the one it's parallel to.

[placid heath]

Base

Do you know what windschief is

Without looking it up :D

[opal sequoia]

Well.

Hmm.

I am thinking about it. It's very mysterious.

[whole rapids]

is it like that flag thing which tells you the direction of the wind?

[opal sequoia]

Possibly the flow.

Is it, Pferd?

[whole rapids]

dunno, just guessing

I look now

[opal sequoia]

Hmm. 🤔

[ocean robin]

I don't know the English word, wait

[whole rapids]

nah, it's something else

what is the name of that thing anyway...

[opal sequoia]

Is it like that, Korea or Luna? A flow diagram of vectors.

[ocean robin]

Secant lines?

[whole rapids]

Windsock is that thing

[opal sequoia]

Oh, windsock. 😄

[whole rapids]

but that's not what Windschief means

[clever steppe]

have you learned about similar triangles flop?

[ocean robin]

What do you mean by similar?

[opal sequoia]

You don't need triangles for this problem btw, Flappy. You only need to write your idea from earlier into maths terms somehow.

[clever steppe]

triangles are considered "similar" if all the angles of the two triangles are the same

[tribal warren]

Luna

You really loved Windschief

huh

[ocean robin]

Into maths terms, huh.

[pine ginkgo]

IT'S A FUN WORD BEGI

[ocean robin]

Well knowing that this line (let's name it d1) d1 // (RU) and that T goes through this same line

hm

[tribal warren]

BEGI

I BEGI YOU TO NOT CALL ME BEGI

[pine ginkgo]

it has to do with the attributes of a vector, base

:)

[ocean robin]

I have no idea of what I am doing here

[opal sequoia]

Hmm.

You are doing great, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

So then this line is like, its coordinates are (3;0)

Because we already know the coordinates of T and that is a straight line because it is parallel with (UR)

So now, when we look at [SU] it must cut it, but then how to prove that mathematically 🤔

maybe

By comparing their coordinates

[opal sequoia]

You are thinking along the right direction here.

[pine ginkgo]

not that it is wrong, but i like how you call the lines UR and SU

[ocean robin]

and see if 3 is in between of their coordinates of x

oh

[opal sequoia]

Let's look at UR for a second. How do the coordinates of UR change as you go along it?

[ocean robin]

The coordinates change?

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

The coordinates of U are different from the coordinates of R.

[ocean robin]

Yep.

[opal sequoia]

And the coordinates in between U and R are all different.

So as you go along the line, how does (x, y) change?

[ocean robin]

x doesn't change. Only y does.

[pine ginkgo]

uhm

[ocean robin]

Since it's a straight line.

[pine ginkgo]

pats flops

[opal sequoia]

A straight line isn't the right term.

[ocean robin]

yey \o/

[opal sequoia]

It's a different kind of line.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

I mean, it is straight.

[ocean robin]

Perpendicular line?

[opal sequoia]

No.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

What do you call a line that only the Y coordinates change?

[ocean robin]

it's a uh

[opal sequoia]

Maybe you don't know the word in english?

[valid ice]

greenical line

[ocean robin]

Actually, I don't know the term at all 🤔

[tribal warren]

linery line

[opal sequoia]

Vertical.

[ocean robin]

Ah. Oki dokie.

[opal sequoia]

Vertical means that it goes straight up and down.

Well, it doesn't matter if you don't use it, but you can say that " only the y coordinate changes". That's fine too.

[shy bobcat]

nothing 👀

[opal sequoia]

Anyway, what does that mean for the other line, the red one?

[ocean robin]

😦

that it's (3;0)

[opal sequoia]

No, a line can't be one coordinate.

[ocean robin]

🤔

True, when I think about it

[pine ginkgo]

(btw, base what attributes can vectors or better lines have in 3d space)

[ocean robin]

But x will always be 3

[shy bobcat]

"better lines"

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, Flappy. That is good.

[pine ginkgo]

(to explain a bit more about windschief)

[opal sequoia]

You can use that.

Okay, Luna. Let me see...

In 3d space...

[pine ginkgo]

(some of them are the same as in 2d space)

[ocean robin]

I think I am getting slowly to the awnser \o/

[pine ginkgo]

(especially in relation to... each other)

awnser

[opal sequoia]

Curl?

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

(two of the relations flops needs for her homework)

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

lol, Flappy. You know, you should write down these words, answer and tomorrow, and stick them next to wherever you sit during the day.

[ocean robin]

Yes

[opal sequoia]

Or on the inside of your eyelid.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Hmmm.

[ocean robin]

I am going to write what we have done so far.

[opal sequoia]

Trying to even think of vector words. 😄

Yeah, good idea, Flappy.

[pine ginkgo]

(what simple relations can 2d lines have to each other, base)

:P

[opal sequoia]

Angle?

Distance? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

you are thinking to complicated :o

[opal sequoia]

Hmmm. Length?

Magnitude?

[placid heath]

Two lines.

[clever steppe]

i really think the point of this question is understanding triangle similarity

it makes the answer the simplest

[pine ginkgo]

(what does flops have to find, base)

[ocean robin]

Hoyl I have the awnser.

\o/

[pine ginkgo]

awnser.

[ocean robin]

[whole rapids]

rwanser

[ocean robin]

I tried

I failed.

[whole rapids]

I faile.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Wow, you did it, Flappy?

Flappy is finding...

[placid heath]

awn🐌er

[ocean robin]

I think so 🤔

[opal sequoia]

I have no idea.

Intersection?

[whole rapids]

now you can do German passive

[pine ginkgo]

yes

base

what other relations can it have in 2d space

[opal sequoia]

Non-intersection.

[placid heath]

Which is called...?

[pine ginkgo]

which is achieved by being?

[placid heath]

In 2d?

[pine ginkgo]

if two lines never intersect... the are?

[placid heath]

memes.

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[opal sequoia]

Parallel.

😄

[pine ginkgo]

yes

nooow

if you go into 3d space

you have an additional possible relation

:D

[ocean robin]

Nevermind. I flopsed and I must do another reasoning. :(

[opal sequoia]

Wow. 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

if they cut, they still have an intersection

if they don't cut, they can be parallel

but what else is possible?

[opal sequoia]

If they are parallel one way and rotated another way?

[placid heath]

That's the english word for it?

[ocean robin]

I don't know how to prove it mathematically >.<

I did another line with five numbers, and 3 is the middle as well

🤔

[placid heath]

latex \text{Because I say it's true. \blacksquare}

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[clever steppe]

when it says "justify" i dont think it intends you to use any numbers at all

[ocean robin]

I don't want to say "lol 5÷2" because it doesn't do 3 but 2,5

mmmmh

[opal sequoia]

Well I didn't know the term in English so I googled it (in English, not in German, so it's not cheating). It is skew lines?

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[placid heath]

Die Geraden sind windschief.

[pine ginkgo]

when two lines in 3d space are neither intersecting nor parallel to each other

it's called windschief in german

[placid heath]

TIL the english term

[ocean robin]

Wait.

I have an idea :O

[pine ginkgo]

me too, korea :D

[placid heath]

OMG HIDE

[pine ginkgo]

HIDE

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

That's cool.

[placid heath]

flops has an idea = WW III ensues

🇰🇵

[opal sequoia]

I think we did skew but not skew lines.

In vector calc.

[pine ginkgo]

in school

we had a lot of exercises with vectors as planes

and it was of utmost importance that their trajectory is windschief

[clever steppe]

oh you mean airplane

i was like

[ocean robin]

When you do the median of those 5 numbers such as 1, 2 , 3, 4, 5
You need to speare those in two groups 1,2 the littlest and 4,5 the biggest
3 is alone and is then the middle \o/

[opal sequoia]

Wow, interesting.

[ocean robin]

I HOPE THIS IS CORRECT

BECAUSE I HAD THIS IN A FLASH

[placid heath]

what are you trying to prove

Geometry with discrete maths? holy god

[opal sequoia]

No, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

😦

[opal sequoia]

I don't know what you are doing with this maths.

The answer is much simpler than that.

[ocean robin]

I was happy for a second.

[opal sequoia]

You already pretty much wrote it.

[ocean robin]

ah

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

what does to "speare" mean away?

or what did you want to say there

[placid heath]

Smeargle.

[clever steppe]

i think at this point she is better served if you just tell her what you want her to know base

weve hit diminishing returns on the brainstorming

[ocean robin]

But my answer technically works or not?

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Nope.

[ocean robin]

Awwww. 😦

[opal sequoia]

But fine, I will tell you.