general-2

[clear pebble]

Hallo! Wie geht es dir?

[warm peak]

Es geht mir sehr gut und du ?

[clear pebble]

Ziemlich gut, danke.

[viscid cape]

Arme @warm peak , es war fast niemand da, als du uns gegrüßt hast. 😂

[shy bobcat]

lol wahr 😄

[quick turret]

getrole Level A

[viral thunder]

:heavy_check_mark: Given you the Level A role.

[mortal hound]

Ich bin hier

[whole rapids]

yo

Translate:

He will write you an email soon.

"you" can be whichever of the three varieties you like

[mortal hound]

Er werdet dir eine Email bald schreiben.

I'm not sure where to place "soon"

[whole rapids]

mm, before that, look up the conjugations for "werden"

[mortal hound]

Er wird

[whole rapids]

okay good

regarding the placement of "bald", I am a bit fuzzy myself, but I think it is generally placed after the subjects and pronouns

[mortal hound]

Er wird bald dir eine Email schreiben

[whole rapids]

"dir" is a pronoun

[mortal hound]

Oh i didnt think it would go between, that's my mistake

Er wird dir bald eine Email schreiben?

[whole rapids]

good work

[mortal hound]

ah thank you

[whole rapids]

to get a measure on your German, how are you learning it and do you know your level?

[mortal hound]

I'm just learning here and by watching TV and using my dictionary mostly

[ivory jolt]

hmm i thought bald comes after Email

[mortal hound]

I'm not sure what my level is, the Goethe test was hard because my listening skills suck

[ivory jolt]

i reccomend finishing a beginner grammar book first, we have a few in pinned message of #resources

[whole rapids]

yeah, I'd recommend getting an overview of the grammar if you haven't already

[mortal hound]

I have one I use sometimes but it can't tell me exactly why I'm wrong so I like doing this

I know a decent amount of it I think. I just need to practice

[whole rapids]

this website is good for quick overview: http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/

or to remind yourself of things

[mortal hound]

i'll check it out, danke

[whole rapids]

no worries

do you think you can translate this:

They cannot help you with your problem.

[mortal hound]

Sie können dir mit deine Problem nicht helfen

This one is hard lol

[whole rapids]

what dictionary are you using?

[mortal hound]

dict.cc

For this, I only used it to find the gender of Problem

[whole rapids]

okay, well, you either misread dict.cc or you are unsure what the ending should be used for the "dein"

also, the preposition you use with "helfen" is not "mit", but dict.cc is not very clear with that, so I will just tell you: bei

[mortal hound]

I’m still working on memorizing the dative prepositions

Sie können dir bei dein Problem nicht helfen

[whole rapids]

okay, look at the second table at the bottom of this page, and tell me what you think is wrong in your sentence: http://germanforenglishspeakers.com/nouns/declension-tables/

[mortal hound]

Deinem?

[whole rapids]

yeah

now you can fix it

[mortal hound]

Sie können die bei deinem Problem nicht helfen

[whole rapids]

fix typo

[mortal hound]

Mir*

*dir

Ugh

Idk why I did that lol

[whole rapids]

brainfart

[mortal hound]

That happens to me a lot with translations

[whole rapids]

Übung macht den Meister.

[sudden panther]

Aber wer macht die Übung?

[whole rapids]

das wäre du, damit wir durch Memes lernen können.

[ivory jolt]

Klingt aber gut

[viscid cape]

@grand seal Where have you been 👽

[opal sequoia]

👽

[uncut ember]

wie gehtsw

wie gehts

[clear pebble]

Es get mir gut, danke. Und dir? Wie geht es dir?

[opal sequoia]

Hello, here's a sentence for you guys to try: The dog tries to help the man.

[iron grove]

Der Hund versucht den Mann helfen?

[lost dagger]

not x actly c:

[sharp willow]

zu helfen?

[lost dagger]

oops wrong emoji sory

going in the right direction

[sharp willow]

i dunno the cases, was about to look it up until he posted that (gender that is)

oh that looks like what is wrong

Dem Mann versucht der Hund zu helfen?

put that in google translate and see who is helping who ^_^

[lost dagger]

jo

[west harness]

der Hund versucht dem Mann zu helfen

?

do you need zu?

[sharp willow]

well i thought so

it's in the English

[west harness]

but helfen = to help

[lost dagger]

you do need zu

[west harness]

is that right then?

[lost dagger]

ya

[sharp willow]

well that is what i put

[west harness]

😎

[sharp willow]

but i moved things around

which is why German is awesome

[lost dagger]

both work

yeah

[sharp willow]

also i know google translator does not get it because it's writen by English people LOL

(What I think anyhow, i know it's AI powered)

[west harness]

more sentences bitte

[iron grove]

Ich hab gar keine Ahnung

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp willow]

mehr satz bitte

[iron grove]

Sätze*

[sharp willow]

danke

[lost dagger]

maybe he/she means salt

[iron grove]

👍

Vielleicht 😄

[lost dagger]

(das Salz)

[sharp willow]

nope, i did not know the pural

[lost dagger]

and sentence is der Satz

Salz is salt c:

[opal sequoia]

Mehr Salz bitte.

New sentence: He is very happy because his sister gave him a cat.

[iron grove]

Can I post my response too or is it for them?

[sharp willow]

mine is bad

i dont even want to post it, lol

[lost dagger]

go ahead!

[iron grove]

Er ist sehr glücklich denn seine Schwester hat ihn eine Katze gegeben?

[west harness]

er ist sehr glücklich, weil seine Schwester hat ihm eine Katze gegeben

[sharp willow]

Er ist sehr gernen, denn sein Schwester Katz gibt

[red pewter]

Er ist sehr glücklich, weil seine Schwester eine Katze ihn hat gegeben

[west harness]

jinx everyone

[sharp willow]

who?

[lost dagger]

buttery and copper you're both 90% there, 1 error each, not the same one

[iron grove]

🤔

[sharp willow]

i dont ever see weil as because to me it's while

[west harness]

does hat go to the end_

?

[lost dagger]

👍

[iron grove]

Since you used Weil, yes

I'm not sure what's wrong with mine. Is it a case error?

[lost dagger]

Yeah

[red pewter]

Er ist sehr glücklich, weil seine Schwester eine Katze ihn gegeben hat :?

[west harness]

er ist sehr glücklich, weil seine Schwester ihm eine Katze gegeben hat

[mortal hound]

Last pronoun

[sharp willow]

it's einem right?

[lost dagger]

Copper 💯

Cbell up to Schwester is perfect, rest has a word order and case error

[red pewter]

okay.

[west harness]

[sharp willow]

i rarely translate from English to German, so this is interesting

[red pewter]

Er ist sehr glücklich, weil seine Schwester ihm eine Katze gegeben hat :?

dative ihn turns to ihm :?

[lost dagger]

It's good practice

yeah!

[west harness]

yay!

[iron grove]

👌

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, good work.

[lost dagger]

I have a new sentence if anyone wants

[iron grove]

Go for it

[west harness]

zes

yes

[red pewter]

ja

[lost dagger]

Bobby stole his mom's credit card and spent $4,000 on video games

[red pewter]

wow

[mortal hound]

Yikes

[west harness]

bobby's an asshole but he knows how to have fun

[sharp willow]

maybe in the 90s

well nvm

[iron grove]

Bobby hat seine Mutters Kreditkarte gestohlen***, ***und hat viertausend Dollar auf(?) Videospielen ausgegeben

[red pewter]

Bobby hat seine Mutters Kreditkarte gestohlen und hat 4.000 auf Videospiele gekaufen (if there's gen in this idk how to handle it at all)

eh i mostly did the same as the B level. can't be that bad 8)

[opal sequoia]

Buttery Rolls... that comma... 😶

[sharp willow]

ja that not even allowed in English unless it's a list eh?

[iron grove]

😎 👉 👉

[red pewter]

no we can use commas in english for two complete sentences combined

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, it's allowed for a list.

[west harness]

bobby hat seine Mutter's Kredit Karte geschtolen und hat $4000 on Videospiele ausgegeben

[red pewter]

this was not that.

[iron grove]

es tut mir so leid 😉

[west harness]

i had to look up spent and it kept giving me verbraucht

[sharp willow]

ja that is why i did not even try ^_^

[west harness]

oh i forgot on = auf

[lost dagger]

ausgegeben was what I was thinking of

try a different preposition

[west harness]

denglisch

[opal sequoia]

Copper, you can't use apostrophes for genitive in German.

[west harness]

hmm

[red pewter]

ausgeben is a word i didn't know.

[west harness]

oh right

[iron grove]

MoooOOOooOOooOsses

[twilit garden]

we would say "4.000€ an XXX ausgegeben/gekauft"

morning

[west harness]

an

hallo 😊

[red pewter]

morgen ❤

[west harness]

bobby hat seine Mutters Kreditkarte geschtolen und hat $4000 an Videospiele ausgegeben

[sharp willow]

kein punkt ^^

[red pewter]

Bobby hat seine Mutters Kreditkarte gestohlen und hat 4.000 Dollar an Videospiele ausgegeben

[opal sequoia]

I'm gonna go study for a while. I'll be back later.

[sharp willow]

oh man

thanks for this Base

[opal sequoia]

Np.

[red pewter]

vielen dank ❤

[twilit garden]

ok, if you use "an" you have to write "Videospiele__n__" and it is "die Kreditkarte seiner Mutter" 😉

[west harness]

have fun base

[sharp willow]

ahhh seiner genitive

[west harness]

i haven't got to genetiv yet 😦

[red pewter]

Bobby hat seiner Mutters Kreditkarte gestohlen und hat 4.000 Dollar an Videospielen ausgegeben

no one has taught bell gen yet D:

[west harness]

same

getting there though

[sharp willow]

well you just did by Nemoses 😃

[red pewter]

😄

[west harness]

bobby hat die Kreditkarte seiner Mutter gestohlen und hat $4000 an Videospielen ausgegeben

[twilit garden]

the thing/person who is possessing something is in the genitive so we have to change "seine Mutter"

that is perfect, coppercot 👍

[red pewter]

what happened to stealing copper???

[west harness]

yaaaaaay

[iron grove]

Forgot to write that he stole it?

[twilit garden]

oh

[iron grove]

yaaaaaay

[twilit garden]

well you can just pop that in there

[iron grove]

lol

[weary grove]

lol does anyone even use genitive anymore

[west harness]

put it back

my bad

😬

[twilit garden]

we write it "gestolen" though 😉

[west harness]

yikes

[twilit garden]

gestohlen

wait

it is too early for me ^^

[iron grove]

Moses, perhaps some coffee first?

[twilit garden]

good idea

[hot oriole]

gestohlen 😄

[twilit garden]

yeah the infinitive is stehlen

[west harness]

is it regular?

[red pewter]

bell wants to play zelda. ttfn ❤

[twilit garden]

stehlen, stahl, gestohlen

[west harness]

have fun cbell

[iron grove]

oh what the fuck

coppercot

not coppercat

[west harness]

i guess it's a good thing i never learned the word for steal?

lol good eye

[iron grove]

Ich brauche Essen

Bis später

[lost dagger]

tschüss!

[hot oriole]

pfiad di

[iron grove]

Was zum...

[twilit garden]

stehlen = irregular confirmed

[iron grove]

sowieso... Tschüss!

[twilit garden]

[sharp willow]

man that ended fast

[west harness]

stiehlst

[hot oriole]

kann man nix machen

[twilit garden]

Woran hattet jelejen

[weary grove]

you guys

this huge moth thingy

[lost dagger]

what kind of huge moth thingy?

do you have a pic?

[weary grove]

just appeared

lol no its dead

but it was so creepy

it was like 2 or 3 cm long

[hot oriole]

kill it with fire

[twilit garden]

🔥

[lost dagger]

then you get mutant Feuermotte

[weary grove]

fire moth?

[twilit garden]

awesome metal band

[weary grove]

https://aminus3.s3.amazonaws.com/image/g0003/u00002497/i00050639/ab08bd93692c94c937281a907c8bbb56_large.jpg

[lost dagger]

Whoa

[weary grove]

thats probably photoshopped

[west harness]

its legs look like pipecleaners

and its back looks like a troll dolls hair

[weary grove]

kind of looks like it's wearing an overly decorated hat

[west harness]

it's pretty

[weary grove]

wait

so i have this evil substitute teacher (that encourages students to kill themselves) tomorrow in english

and like, can i just pretend not to speak english

[lost dagger]

My English teacher looks like an ancient greek philosopher

[grand seal]

@viscid cape I discovered video games again. That's where I've been. :(

I've been neglecting my German server friends like a butt.

[opal sequoia]

What games?

[ivory jolt]

You neglect ur butt?

[pine ginkgo]

Don't let your butt get neglected

[lost dagger]

Ugh I'm a dumbass I bought the wrong size inner tube for my bike

It's way too big

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

[unkempt stag]

geeztouree

[shy bobcat]

guess tour

[whole rapids]

why do you have an English teacher? @cloud current Or was this a previous teacher?

[pine ginkgo]

because riü is bad 😦

i have to think about a frisur for tomorrow

🤔

because

there's my friseurtermin

🤔

[whole rapids]

I would have thought you being a native speaker would make you exempt from such a Fach

[pine ginkgo]

and they will look at you with contempt

whenever you make a mistake

😦

[whole rapids]

correct all their pronounciations

[sudden panther]

And make sure nobody uses the British spelling.

[pine ginkgo]

do you get money for that lol

stop being nice riü

:o

[whole rapids]

say you lied and you're not American

your native language is [obscure language]

[pine ginkgo]

say you're from texas and your english is very southy

.oh shit

[sudden panther]

Dothraki.

[ivory jolt]

Fus ro dah

[sudden panther]

Dothraki jdjgir jajebf ajwofjf djsig ejak fkgoo twak. Fjrh ajehtb akwhe @quasi merlin?

[ivory jolt]

texan accent when u speak german or the person told that in german?

[pine ginkgo]

how does a german "texan accent" sound like even

[ivory jolt]

well

[pine ginkgo]

is riü speaking with texan accent

🤔

[whole rapids]

you use "y'all" instead of "ihr/euch"

[pine ginkgo]

so

Ich gebe y'all die Übungen

[royal pollen]

"That don't sound right"

[ivory jolt]

i dont even know what texan accent sounds like in english

[quasi merlin]

@sudden panther Nai prazi dei lingon.

[pine ginkgo]

don't think i have heard that accent yet, pferdlein

🤔

[royal pollen]

I can't really explain either

Because it's really hard for me to pick up on those kinds of things

A lot of southern US accents mix and match some words together sometimes

[pine ginkgo]

kinda

[ivory jolt]

I've been trying to learn british accent recently but coupled with the inner Asian it sounds sarcastic and ridiculous

its best to let it be

[royal pollen]

I always turn Australian

[ivory jolt]

What toime is it mate

[whole rapids]

maybe they thought you had a Texan accent after learning you are from Texas(?), if you did tell them beforehand.

[royal pollen]

"I wonna put seme vegemite on moy heymberger"

[whole rapids]

@ivory jolt "sarcastic" is halfway there

oh, interesting

I guess you do sound Texan then, at least to those guys

[ivory jolt]

I think just adding good sir at the end of every sentence is enough for brit accent

[royal pollen]

Yes

[ivory jolt]

and alot of bloody

[whole rapids]

not if you want to sound like an idiot

[quasi merlin]

Good bloody sir.

[pine ginkgo]

riü's accent is like ü

[ivory jolt]

Sir bloody mcbloodface

[rustic portal]

Depends on if you want to be posh british or common british

common british would be "mate"

[royal pollen]

Oi

[rustic portal]

wot mate?

[whole rapids]

"mate" seems to be more common the farther north you go

or in London

[rustic portal]

Depends, my mum would never use it but my step dad does all the time

[whole rapids]

mm, now that I think about it, it does seem to be a word that guys say more than girls

[rustic portal]

Definitely, also dependent on age and how posh they are

working and middle class would generally say it but not high class

[whole rapids]

yeah, the upper class live in their own language world where "troglodyte" is the gravest of insults.

[rustic portal]

It's a good word to be fair

[stiff topaz]

@ivory jolt you've never heard George Bush?

also..."knuckle-dragging troglodyte" is good too

[round bay]

or "great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jellies"

that maybe one specific upper class person

[sturdy shadow]

@pallid kelp yo look

[pallid kelp]

🐧

[placid heath]

🐧 Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about linux?

[pallid kelp]

❌

[steep socket]

I'm watching Extra 3 on youtube. I've gotten to a point where I can recognize and understand most of the words, but I can't understand whole sentences because he's talking too fast for me to parse them 😅

[fair iron]

Change the speed to 0.5. ^^

[sudden panther]

How long have you been learning?

[fair iron]

Once you get to 0.25 YouTube cuts the audio, so don't go that far.

[steep socket]

Eh, for quite a while, but I haven't been consistent at all

[sturdy shadow]

@pallid kelp it got better!

[thick charm]

Warum spielen Haie eigentlich Eishockey? Sind das nicht eigentlich eher Warmwasserfische?

[fair iron]

Das Geld ist knapp.

Irgendwie muss man ja sein Leben finanzieren.

[pallid kelp]

🐧 🐧 🐧

[sturdy shadow]

Yey!

[quasi merlin]

Wat indeed

Reading like god in France?

:o

Wait

It's an idiom?

It's an idiom.

https://www.dict.cc/?s=wie+Gott+in+Frankreich

TIL, lol

[opal sequoia]

Oh, it's a play on words too?

[pine halo]

the weirder thing there is the english translation

"leading the life of riley"

[ivory jolt]

dammit Riley

she gets everything she wants

[sturdy shadow]

Heckin riley

[tribal warren]

@viscid cape Did you miss your alarm or just slept the whole morning without concern? xD

[pine ginkgo]

he ditched you

[tribal warren]

He ditched all of us

np tho, I was also dying to go back to bed at 6 am xD

but I had to wake up at 7 anyway so 1 hour earlier isnt so bad

[viscid cape]

I woke up early but couldn't get off bed, I was (am) sick 😦

Sorry about that

By early I mean 8 am though

😂

[tribal warren]

So you did miss it xD

It's fine, Kryptik

You're not obliged to do it, it's your choice if you want to do it or nah

[fair iron]

Get well soon.

[tribal warren]

Yea, get better!

[viscid cape]

Thank you Caskovsky

Okay I'll just pick a book's sentence

or should we do eng-ger instead?

[pine ginkgo]

you can do both

[whole rapids]

I thought that's what you wanted

[pine ginkgo]

one eng > ger

one ger > eng

though i think ger > eng is easier 🤔

[viscid cape]

Let's try eng-ger then

[tribal warren]

do eng-ger

[viscid cape]

It was not long before they grew to hate the forest as heartily as they had hated the tunnels of the goblins, and it seemed to offer even less hope of any ending.

[whole rapids]

@viscid cape

Translate:

The jet-black trees' canopies hid the sky, allowing only slivers of sunlight to hit the forest floor, and their thick roots crawled and interwove themselves on the forest floor, forcing the man to take each step with care.

[true fractal]

Can I give it a try too?

[ocean robin]

WHOOOO WATCHING TEACHERS TRANSLATING

HOW AMAZING

[viscid cape]

Sure you can

[whole rapids]

we're not teachers

[viscid cape]

Meep, infiltrated pupil

Eliminate her

[whole rapids]

we're teacher assistants

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

She'll find out we suck

[whole rapids]

she must be deleted

[sudden panther]

Ban Enton.

[viscid cape]

[ocean robin]

nuuuuuh

[whole rapids]

since you're here @ocean robin, translate our sentences.

[true fractal]

That sentence is so complicated and long though. Only came up with this: Es daurte nicht lang, bevor sie den Wald zu hassen angefangen habe.

[ocean robin]

JESUS CHRIST

[whole rapids]

anyway, thanks, Krypto-kun-sama-san, I get to it after I finish something else I am writing

[ocean robin]

Genitive first ftw

god please

[tribal warren]

Pferd's is so much harder xD

[viscid cape]

True lol

[ocean robin]

I will do Krypti's first, okay

[tribal warren]

But your german is top notch, Kryptik

so it makes sense

[viscid cape]

Do you want to try that one out?

[tribal warren]

Me?

[viscid cape]

No it's not don't know where you got that from

Flappo would you like to follow the exercises book or translate random sentences?

[tribal warren]

From reading your messages on discord

[pine ginkgo]

i wanna try too!

[tribal warren]

Give Solet one he'll fail

[viscid cape]

He should try pferd's

[tribal warren]

ecks dee

[viscid cape]

😂

[fair iron]

No he won't, I have faith in Solet.

He's a fast learner.

[tribal warren]

Last time I checked, he wasn't even A1

Does he learn exponentially fast?

[sudden panther]

Die Düsenflugzeugbäumes Schutzdächer versteckten den Sky Marshal, bewilligend nur Scheibchen von Abendsonnenschein zu schlagen den Waldungfußboden und ihre dick Quadratwurzeln herumkrabbelten und verwebten ihrerseits auf dem Waldungfußboden, forcierend den Mann zu nehmen jegliche Trittstufe mit Behandlung.
Done. What do I win.

[true fractal]

Jesus Christ

[pine ginkgo]

ich mag deins, arrem

[fair iron]

Now fix it, Flappy.

[tribal warren]

Holy

[true fractal]

I know like 10 % of the words in there

[tribal warren]

Same

[pine ginkgo]

i know like 100%

[sudden panther]

Probably because they're mostly memes I took from the very bottom of dcc.

[viscid cape]

"forcierend" 😂

[tribal warren]

Yea I figured lul

Quadratwurzeln D:

[thick charm]

jesus christ arrem

I just read that

[ocean robin]

Krypti, translation is 90% done, I am blocking on the "even less"

[viscid cape]

Paste what you got thus far and we'll work it out

[thick charm]

F L O P S

[pine ginkgo]

if it starts with Es war nicht lang

[ocean robin]

...

it does

I think, lemme see that again

[pine ginkgo]

well, continue

[ocean robin]

nicht so lang actually

[pine ginkgo]

i don't think that's something you can know just from that 🤔

[thick charm]

I put so much effort into that and got ignored

man this is how it feels to be not me

[pine ginkgo]

"effort"

[thick charm]

Yeah

[viscid cape]

-pats Chucko-

[thick charm]

Took me like half a minute

[tribal warren]

Good job, Chuck

I appreciate your effort

[thick charm]

That's more than I usually do

[ocean robin]

YO CHUCK

[tribal warren]

You did something for America!

wait

Germany!

[thick charm]

wait what

I ain't no Murican

[ocean robin]

I was into my translation, sorry

[sudden panther]

I'm sorry for any mental damage I caused, Chocc. ❤

[tribal warren]

Yea I was just using some common motivational thing, which is usually linked with american patriotism :v

[ocean robin]

And Krypti, you sneaky, why do you put "had hated" when I can't use this tense yet ;___;

[thick charm]

I thought you were serious for the first sentence

I was so confused

[pine ginkgo]

well, flaps

this was not a sentence for you originally

[tribal warren]

Nope was just kitten 😄

[ocean robin]

I just used Prateritum for this one, but it's not 100% accurate

[pine ginkgo]

🤔

[sudden panther]

Oh God It was not long before they grew to hate the forest as heartily as they had hated the tunnels of the goblins, and it seemed to offer even less hope of any ending.
I can't even imagine what this one will look like.

[tribal warren]

Did Pferd translate it?

[ocean robin]

that "even less"

[pine ginkgo]

pferd is still busy

[ocean robin]

what could it be what the fok

[thick charm]

even weniger

[pine ginkgo]

he said he will do it after he is done being busy

[ocean robin]

please chok

[true fractal]

"as heartily" is also hard

[thick charm]

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[sudden panther]

gerade kleiner als

[tribal warren]

@pine ginkgo makes sense, so in the meanwhile, flappy's supposed to do it?

[ocean robin]

Well I am 100% sure I am wrong on that part of this sentence, tbh, Emil

"as heartily as"

[true fractal]

I wanna see it anyway 😃

[ocean robin]

Because here I didn't put V2

[sudden panther]

Easy. als herzend als

[thick charm]

geherztlicht

[ocean robin]

that's exactly what I wrote

[sudden panther]

I wouldn't be surprised

[thick charm]

me neither

[ocean robin]

Arrem's reading my mind, seriously.

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin That sentence was originally for Pferd 😂

[sudden panther]

Honestly Flops just take something that you can translate properly and learn from. There's no point in translating such things at your level. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

how far is your translation krypti

:D

[ocean robin]

okay then

[true fractal]

nooo

post it

😦

[ocean robin]

let's just use the first thing dict.cc suggests for "even less"

[viscid cape]

@pine ginkgo I'm trying

[tribal warren]

You guys put so much pressure into her LOL

[viscid cape]

Flappy wait

[thick charm]

Don't use geschweige denn

[viscid cape]

Let's try some other sentence

With stuff you already learnt

[ocean robin]

LOL CHUCK WHAT DO I USE

[pine ginkgo]

none of them

actually

[ocean robin]

greeeeat

[thick charm]

none of the ones you find there

yeah

[pine ginkgo]

even less is not really a set phrase

[thick charm]

so let's start with the easier one

[pine ginkgo]

so you should search for even

and less

[thick charm]

how would you translate less?

tfw the translation I'd pick for even isn't on dict

[ocean robin]

lol

[pine ginkgo]

i know what you mean

but there are suitable alternatives

[ocean robin]

So yeah, I wanted to say even = sogar and less = weniger

[thick charm]

that works

[tribal warren]

what was the one you were thinking, Chuck?

[ocean robin]

Sogar weniger and then V2?

[thick charm]

There's another one I'd personally prefer when it comes to the flow of words

'noch weniger'

[ocean robin]

Oh, okay.

[thick charm]

or 'erst recht nicht'

[tribal warren]

Cool

[ocean robin]

mmh, let's try to use that with V2 then

[tribal warren]

K gonna take a nap, cya Leute, have a good learning, Flaps

I'll come back l8r

[sudden panther]

Man naps are nice.

[pine ginkgo]

arrem, look at all of them

being so busy with translating

no one is writing!

[sudden panther]

"learning"

[pine ginkgo]

:D

[ocean robin]

Es war nicht so lang, bevor sie den Wald zu hassen wunschen, als herzlich als sie hassten die Stollen der Kobolde, und it schien noch weniger Hoffnung von kein Ende zu anbieten. flopping incoming, watch out bois

[whole rapids]

okay, I will attempt it now

[pine ginkgo]

It was not long before they grew to hate the forest as heartily as they had hated the tunnels of the goblins, and it seemed to offer even less hope of any ending.

i see many floppings, that i lost count

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

your best flopping

is the subject for the last part

[ocean robin]

but it was hard oh my god

LOL I SEE

best flopping so far

Es war nicht so lang, bevor sie den Wald zu hassen wunschen, als herzlich als sie hassten die Stollen der Kobolde, und es schien noch weniger Hoffnung von kein Ende zu anbieten.

[viscid cape]

Damn

This app won't let me copy the text... Jesus Christ

How stupid

[ocean robin]

LOL

[viscid cape]

How is this?

[sudden panther]

Definitely take on smaller setneces. Ones that you can actually think through.

[viscid cape]

der Mann*

[pine ginkgo]

schau das präteritum von bergen nochmal an, krypti

:)

[viscid cape]

oKAY WAIT

Ops

[pine ginkgo]

ermöglichen... can work

but it's more like make it happen

[viscid cape]

schaffen?

Hum wait

I'll think

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

it's not easy really

but i think doing it literal should be fine

you should also check your spelling for verweben

all in all it's pretty good though

things you couldn't really know

i'd rather translate slivers of sun light as einzelne Sonnenstrahlen

we don't really say Lichtsplitter

:P

[viscid cape]

Ahh I see, thanks for the feedback

[pine ginkgo]

and instead of ermöglichen

you can just take erlauben

or zulassen

[viscid cape]

Yeah I thought about those before but they sounded too authorise-like to my mind

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

well, allow

:D

[viscid cape]

Flappo stop flappering.

True, allow sounds like that too 😂

[pine ginkgo]

oh

what would also sound nicer for the last part

would be something like this vorsichtig einen Schritt nach dem anderen machen

yours isn't wrong, but this is a nicer phrase that germans use for that

[true fractal]

Can I post my take on Krypto's sentence? It will probably be comletely wrong though.

[viscid cape]

ahhh I see einen Schritt nach dem anderen

Cool 👌

Sure you can

[cold vessel]

Are we doing stupidly long and hard sentences again? 😛

[ocean robin]

YEES

[true fractal]

"Es daurte nicht lang, bevor sie den Wald zu hassen angefangen haben, so gehertzlich wie sie die Tunnel der Kobolde hassen hatten, und es schien noch weniger Hoffnung für irgendwelches Ende zu bieten" o.O

[ocean robin]

GOD YES

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

nice translation for it was not long

[sudden panther]

Henbri go ahead and give Flopser something that she actually has a chance of getting right. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

otherwise i would say 2 mistakes

and one typo

[cold vessel]

I'm not very good at coming up with sentences

[pine ginkgo]

or 3 mistakes depending on how you wanna fix that emil

[cold vessel]

Do you have a theme suggestion?

[true fractal]

can you give me a hint? 😃

[pine ginkgo]

sure sure

wait a moment

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin

[pine ginkgo]

actually i would call that one a real mistake instead of a typo

[viscid cape]

Translate them

[pine ginkgo]

look up heartily in a dictionary, emil :D

otherwise, you have an infinitive in your third clause before the und

and you should check the case for für

[sudden panther]

Just include the things he's regularly failing at, henbri. 😛

[ocean robin]

wat Krypti

[true fractal]

oh is it herzlich

[cold vessel]

he's

[ocean robin]

^

[pine ginkgo]

the rest might be a bit more difficult for you to recognize yourself, so we can talk about it after you fixed the rest :P

[ocean robin]

👀

[viscid cape]

Flappo, wanna translate some sentences?

Btw Arrem, the book was removed from the website. :v

[ocean robin]

YES KRYPTI

[cold vessel]

@viscid cape Base found it on drive

It's linked in #resources

[viscid cape]

Oh okay, thanks @cold vessel

[ocean robin]

By the way guys I have only 15 mins left. So translationni please.

[cold vessel]

I have to leave in 15 minutes, so hurry up and give me a sentence to translate

[sudden panther]

Are you implying that you can finish a translation in 15 minutes? 🤔

[ocean robin]

yes

[sudden panther]

Prove it then.

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin 😂

[cold vessel]

@hot cloak ?

[viscid cape]

Stop

It's for flappers

[whole rapids]

It was not long before they grew to hate the forest as heartily as they had hated the tunnels of the goblins, and it seemed to offer even less hope of any ending.

Es dauerte nicht lange, bis sie den Wald so herzlich hassen, wie sie die Tunnel der Kobolde gehasst hatten, und es sah aus, dass der Wald sogar weniger Hoffnung jeglicher Endung bieten würde.

I am not sure what the last clause of the English sentence is supposed to mean exactly, so got a bit caught up in it.

[viscid cape]

....

😂

[sudden panther]

Flops already has something to Flop with.

[viscid cape]

Oh okay, I didn't see that

[ocean robin]

Ich muss in 15 Minuten abfahren, also mach schon und gib mir eine Satz zu übersetzen please, don't ay that is actually right

[cold vessel]

Don't worry, it's not

[ocean robin]

dammit

[whole rapids]

hmm, what gender is sentence?

[ocean robin]

Der? wait woopsie

forgot Akk

[viscid cape]

@whole rapids I can't spot mistakes, only weniger*

good night @hot cloak

[ocean robin]

Ich muss in 15 Minuten abfahren, also mach schon und gib mir einen Satz zu übersetzen.

[viscid cape]

What are you translating, flappo?

[whole rapids]

oh yah, "weniger", good sp0t

[ocean robin]

There. Akk put.

[cold vessel]

I have to leave in 15 minutes, so hurry up and give me a sentence to translate

[viscid cape]

Mach schon?

[pine ginkgo]

abfahren

[ocean robin]

yes

[whole rapids]

why "mach schon"?

[true fractal]

Is nicht lange correct?

[viscid cape]

Don't know, never heard it

[placid heath]

abfahren geht, klingt aber seltsam xD

[ocean robin]

I don't know, first translation I saw

[viscid cape]

There's a reflexive verb that means to hurry up

Do you remember it Flappo

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

Die Eile means the haste

[ocean robin]

Gimme a hint plox.

Ah.

Eilen?

[viscid cape]

Almost

You need a prefix

(I think)

[whole rapids]

yeah

a sticky prefix

[viscid cape]

An inseparable prefix

[cold vessel]

You can search for "hurry up" you know 👀

[ocean robin]

that's what I did 👀

[cold vessel]

And then you picked the 7th result 😛

[sudden panther]

She did. And then she used the 4523452345th result. 😛 https://i.imgur.com/OGEthrt.png

[ocean robin]

[true fractal]

what site is that btw?

[cold vessel]

dict.cc

[ocean robin]

dict.cc ™

[viscid cape]

So Flappo

What verb is it, based on arrem's pic

[ocean robin]

Beeilen?

[viscid cape]

When you memorise reflexive verbs

Memorise them always with the reflexive pronoun

sich beeilen

[ocean robin]

ahhh

so wait

Ich muss in 15 Minuten abfahren, also beeile dich und gib mir einen Satz zu übersetzen. I must go.

[viscid cape]

😂 Very good

See you soon

[pine ginkgo]

abfahren :D

[viscid cape]

Is that wrong

it's like depart no

[ocean robin]

Thought it was the most accurate one tbh

[pine ginkgo]

if you are a bus

maybe

[ocean robin]

ah

[cold vessel]

😂

[viscid cape]

Lul

[ocean robin]

maybe

[viscid cape]

So the vehicle fährt ab?

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

[viscid cape]

Cool

Just use gehen then

Or weg

[true fractal]

weggehen

[cold vessel]

There's one more mistake right, Solet?

[pine ginkgo]

dunno

a bit busy atm

probably

[viscid cape]

What mistake do you see

[cold vessel]

I'd assume it should be:
Ich muss in 15 Minuten gehen, also beeile dich und gib mir einen Satz zum Übersetzen.

But then again I can't be trusted on infinitives

[viscid cape]

Yeah the ending sounds better

[sudden panther]

I'd certainly trust you more henbri. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

sounds nice henbri

[viscid cape]

But I don't know why to be fair

[true fractal]

is Übersetzen a noun too?

[sudden panther]

Yes.

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[viscid cape]

Any verb can become one

[sudden panther]

Any verb can be made into a noun by sticking a das in front and capitalizing it.

[true fractal]

cool

[viscid cape]

but why zum Übersetzen is better than zu übersetzen I don't know

zum + noun has a purpose ring to it

[fair iron]

Give me a sentence for the act of translation.

Here, translation is a noun.

[cold vessel]

It's called a gerund, Emil

[viscid cape]

Thanks @fair iron , starting to make sense

[ocean robin]

B1 not soon

[viscid cape]

You did well Floppzor.

[ocean robin]

wHat

[viscid cape]

-pats her and rewards her with fox cookie-

[ocean robin]

yaaaaay!

[placid heath]

Flops is probably C2 and just deceiving us.

[ocean robin]

Excuse me?

[placid heath]

You are C2 and you are just trolling us probably.

[ocean robin]

Ich denke nicht, dass ich C2 bin. 🤔

[cold vessel]

No one could fake such a perfect French accent

[ocean robin]

LOL

[placid heath]

Vielleicht hat sie jemanden entführt der sie im VC vertritt..

[hot cloak]

that's true

[cold vessel]

I looked up "entführt" expecting it to be something like "hired" 😂

[placid heath]

:P

[ocean robin]

lol

[hot cloak]

what does it mean

I'm too lazy to open a dictionary

[cold vessel]

abducted

[hot cloak]

lol

Bad flapps

[ocean robin]

Okay guys, I am going to go to eat a big dinner tonight.

[hot cloak]

we know the truth

[ocean robin]

Nou. 😦

[placid heath]

Don't forget to feed your hostage.

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

Send food pics.

[ocean robin]

Will do. I have a lot of people to feed.

[placid heath]

🥖

food pic

[ocean robin]

There have fun.

[placid heath]

Pains au chocolat!

Je les veut manger

oder so

[hot cloak]

I was doing my homework and it's 2:11 by me, so I passed the moment when I usually go to sleep. so now I can't fall asleep goddamn

what can I do

[sudden panther]

Go to bed and stay there until you fall asleep.

[lavish saddle]

drink a warm tea

[fair iron]

A political conversation is only permitted if it centres around the DACH-nations, and only in #german-only or #voice-chat.

[viral thunder]

:heavy_check_mark: Given you the Level A role.

[proven cedar]

hello everyone

how are you all

[opal sequoia]

Hello.

[faint void]

Fantastic after finding this pearl of a thing "Gleissschotterbettungsreinigungsmaschine"

[hot cloak]

Ich habe eine Frage

[viscid cape]

@hot cloak Say it

[hot cloak]

When does one say im as opposed to in der/die/das

[viscid cape]

im = in + dem

[hot cloak]

oh jesus it’s one of those noun cases

[viscid cape]

so you use it when you want in + dativ in singular or neuter

[hot cloak]

I have no clue how to use dative

[viscid cape]

in can take both accusative or dative

it takes dative when it doesn't imply motion

e.g. when something is inside something else

[hot cloak]

I don’t know what any of that means

oh, hm

well my language learning program said es ist in der Küche, but er ist im Garten

[viscid cape]

These are both in dativ

Because there's no motion implied

it's in the kitchen, he's in the garden

[hot cloak]

how is motion implied in either

[viscid cape]

You use 'in der' Because Küche is feminine

You use 'in dem/ im' because Garten is masculine

[hot cloak]

I don’t understand

[viscid cape]

If the person were walking into the kitchen

You'd use accusative

[hot cloak]

but it isn’t a person

it’s an object

[viscid cape]

It's just an example

[hot cloak]

so why is an object in the Kitchen implying motion?

more importantly, how?

[viscid cape]

It's not implying motion, as I said

[hot cloak]

oh

ohhhhh

well that solves one problem

but I still don’t know how to tell when something is dative versus accusative

[viscid cape]

In this case, it's accusative or dative because of the preposition "in"

Now, to know which of the two you should use

You need to ask

Is there motion implied?

In this case there isn't

So you use dative

[hot cloak]

are there any other cases where you use dative? why is it der Küche and not die Küche?

[viscid cape]

Because Küche is feminine. Dative feminine is der.

[hot cloak]

but... you just said Dative implies motion

[viscid cape]

I never said that

[hot cloak]

ohhh wait

you said the opposite

[viscid cape]

Yes

[hot cloak]

but then why is it im Garten if that is implying motion?

[viscid cape]

It's not implying motion

He's just in the garden

[hot cloak]

when can you tell if it’s implying motion? can you give examples? I apologize for asking so many questions, I’m just learning

[viscid cape]

He's cooking in the garden, sunbathing in the garden, eating in the garden, standing in the garden, playing with the kids in the garden

[hot cloak]

er geht in den Garten - motion
er ist in dem Garten - position

ohhhh

[viscid cape]

In all of these situations, there's no motion to get into the garden or to leave the garden

So you use dative

[hot cloak]

everything clicks in her head

er stellt die Vase auf den Tisch - motion
die Vase steht auf dem Tisch - position

so, in dative, feminine is in der, masculine and neuter is im

[viscid cape]

That is "one" of the uses of dative though. It only applies when dative is being used following a dual preposition ("in" here)

Yes

You should see those things in a textbook, in a systematic way. You won't understand it piecemeal like this

[hot cloak]

i don’t own a textbook nor have the money to buy one

it's not "im", it's "in dem"

to be correct

[viscid cape]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4H3HOluLJOSdFBqTTJ4SC1ucTQ/view

Look at the dative chapter

[hot cloak]

look for my messages in #resources

wait, what?

there are some links to my Google drive

is it ever im?

[viscid cape]

Yeah im is perfectly fine

It's just a contraction

[hot cloak]

I have cool textbooks from Russia with love

My language learning program says im, so I will use it

yep it's fine but I was afraid that you're going to miss this part

what part

that im is the shortening (abkürzung) for in dem

like what is am then?

it's an dem

oh I knew that already

[viscid cape]

😂

You knew one but didn't know the other

🤔

[sturdy shadow]

Nur noch eine Woche bis RWBY

[pine ginkgo]

Weeb

[sturdy shadow]

Selber weeb

[cold vessel]

@hot cloak @hot cloak iirc "im" is one of the contractions you should always use, unless you want to emphasise "dem"

[opal sequoia]

@ocean robin Okay, sorry, I was busy for a second.

[ocean robin]

No problem.

[opal sequoia]

I don't think a native speaker would phrase the sentence that way, but I think it's fine for this.

Except

[pine ginkgo]

yep, we wouldn't

:D

but it's fine as is

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

[pine ginkgo]

as an example

Ich habe noch nie so etwas gesehen

[hot cloak]

Yeah

I'm thinking we'd probably phrase it with emphasis on the thing we've never seen before, so

"So etwas hab ich noch nie gesehen!" kinda thing

[opal sequoia]

Makes sense.

Okay, @ocean robin The train departs from Munich at exactly 4:30pm.

[ocean robin]

Der Zug fährt von Munich genau um 4.30pm ab. Or "abreisen" could work here too.

[sudden panther]

Wrong. Convert it to proper time.

[ocean robin]

Pleaaaase Arrem.

[sudden panther]

And maybe look up how to say "Munich" in German.

[ocean robin]

lel okay

[sudden panther]

You don't use PM in German Flops. 😉

[ocean robin]

PM?

[hot cloak]

AM/PM

[ocean robin]

Ah, yeh.

16.30.

[opal sequoia]

What do you use in French?

[hot cloak]

In speech you can say 4:30 to mean 16:30 but if it's written, you pretty much need to make that distinction

[ocean robin]

Hours, that all. 12h, 14h, 15h, and then so on.

[hot cloak]

At least for schedules and stuff

[ocean robin]

16h30 in this case.

[opal sequoia]

And then make sure you check your sentence and say what you think of it.

[ocean robin]

So yeah, wait that I convert time and see the proper word for Munich Arrem

[sudden panther]

All I ever do is wait.

[ocean robin]

Please don't make me feel bad

[pine ginkgo]

just wait that she does it, arrem

[ocean robin]

Der Zug fährt von München genau um 16:30 ab. there dear Arrem. Mistakes left?

[thick charm]

time manner place

[ocean robin]

ouch painful

[sudden panther]

Chuck the spoilerino. 🙁

[thick charm]

sorry still on on screen keyboard

[cold vessel]

What about just saying "halb fünf"? Would it sound weird in combination with the "genau"?

[thick charm]

can't realky help

[stark drift]

Hi Chuck 👀

[sudden panther]

You could, but when dealing with trains and stuff, I'd prefer 24 hour time, just in case it leaves at 16:28. 😛

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

True.

[hot cloak]

With Deutsche Bahn it never leaves on schedule anyway

[thick charm]

[sudden panther]

[cold vessel]

Not like those Italian ones 😄

[ocean robin]

Der Zug fährt genau um 16:30 von München ab. Ftw Discord lags on computer and doesn't want to send messages, nice

And hey Chok.

[hot cloak]

👏

[ocean robin]

yayies

[opal sequoia]

This book is not for my aunt, but for my uncle.

[ocean robin]

Dies Buch ist nicht für meine Tante, aber für meinen Onkel. nicht placement 👀

[cold vessel]

Declination 👀

[ocean robin]

shiet 👀

on "dies" huh

[sudden panther]

The book died? :(

[ocean robin]

maybe

Wanted to put "diese" first. And then said "nah it's das Buch flops"

[pine ginkgo]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

How would you say "this dog", Flappy?

[sudden panther]

Then add something to the diese that would indicate that it's das.

Dier Hund. Duh.

[opal sequoia]

Duh. 😄

[cold vessel]

dieserener

[ocean robin]

yes

[cold vessel]

You could also add a word to the "but", flappy, which should hint at a different translation

[sudden panther]

Wat?

[hot cloak]

ah yeah

[sudden panther]

Oh I missed the 'different'. We'll deal with the but later.

[hot cloak]

we wouldn't say "aber"

[pine ginkgo]

(mlbsdrnvlsvlas)

oh, arrem got it

damn it, my puzzle is useless now

[sudden panther]

:(

I'd still like to see it.

[pine ginkgo]

well

you can see it

[ocean robin]

For the but?

mmh

[pine ginkgo]

fix Dies first

please

[sudden panther]

Flops. Ignore the but

[ocean robin]

dieses

[sudden panther]

Was (mlbsdrnvlsvlas) supposed to be a puzzle? 🤔

Okay. And the dog?

[ocean robin]

Dieser?

[sudden panther]

Okay.

[thick charm]

👌

[sudden panther]

So, what do I always say when you mess up your nicht placement?

[pine ginkgo]

yes, arrem

[sudden panther]

In particular, when you place a nicht in the middle of the sentence, when it's actually supposed to go at the end.

[thick charm]

'ban Flops'?

[sudden panther]

That too. But I give her a hint that she messed up using a nice little word.

[ocean robin]

ah

[sudden panther]

No, it's not ah.

[ocean robin]

Dieses Buch ist nicht für meine Tante, aber für meinen Onkel. The nicht at the end then?

[sudden panther]

No. I didn't say that the placement was wrong. I just asked you what I say when it is wrong. Because that's your answer.

[opal sequoia]

Out of curiosity, is there a difference for this grammatical concept in French?

[ocean robin]

Mmmh, for English? Nope, it would be the same.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, I see.