#general-2
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yep
i was just wondering f, if you knew what you did there
or if it was just a mistake
:D
wonderif
lel
In case it was what you meant, what would it mean, @pine ginkgo ?
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What does Konjunktiv 1 mean in that context?
indirect speech, berg

Shouldn't it be 2 though?
wondering f
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yep
Like, if she hypothetically made a mistake
she did
no
konjunktiv 1
is indirect speech
so it would work, when she reported what korea said
is it indirect speech ? 
But wouldn't 2 actually make sense in that sentence?
so using of Konjunktiv 1 is a mistake
but you have just to justify it
?
in this case yes
but if she had a proper explanation for using it
it would be okay
Because Solet, I don't know abour Konjunktiv 1 and 2 yet
yep
ok thanks 😉
So I can't use them 🤔
that's why i was asking to make sure
@pine ginkgo Well, my justification for using 2 would be that it's talking about what happens if she hypothetically makes a mistake
sure
I did a mistake there though
it's similar to the english if constructions
If she makes a mistake, I will ban her
etc
of course you can also express the same in konjunktiv
but that changes the mode of the sentence a bit
Third sentence is still wrong, right?
I dunno
It is 👀
It's not grammatically wrong
lel
I read the one before that
😂

went too far up on the convo
the word berechnen does not fit there.
ah ah ahhhh
oh nvm xD
It's etwas berechnen.
wat
There's nothing they are calculating in that sentence.
🤔
True, my bad
As a result, etwas berechnen does not fit
Rechen? Errechen?
It sounds weird without an object
lol I did the typo 2 times
oh cool
"berechnen" works without an object, but it sounds like I know what they're calculating, but I don't .. nobody does 
TIL I didn't know it was a grass rake in English.
errechnen is also transitive
Mika that's sed 
sadderino 
This one was intentional 
o: She's a spy!

LOL
Ich hab natürlich nur gutes über den Genossen Generalsekretär zu sagen.


manchmal verstehe ich gar nicht, worüber Leute hier reden

Über Memes und Spione.
@hot cloak gleichfalls
^
Fläppers, der Satz
1.Flops hat heute gelernt, dass es Teile von der Autobahn ohne Geschwindigkeitsgrenze gibt. 2. Flops wird gebannt sein, falls sie einen Fehler mache. 3. Die Computer errechnen im Rechnerraum.
Flops wird gebannt sein, falls sie einen Fehler mache. 
Ok, Flops, und jetzt mach die Fehler weg.
gebannt
yus gebannt 
flapps
I see the mistake I did again on mache >_>
You also can't really use errechnen because it also takes an object, same as berechnen
1.Flops hat heute gelernt, dass es Teile von der Autobahn ohne Geschwindigkeitsgrenze gibt. 2. Flops wird gebannt sein, falls sie einen Fehler macht. 3. Die Computer errechnen im Rechnerraum.
Oh please.
moin leute
Hai Creepy! 
ich habe eine Frage
Jep?
but which verb do I use
Was ist
ihre lieblingsgarnierung fuer Toast
had to dict.cc that one incase it's the wrong word
Oh, it said that one was for Pizza
You could also add an object, then you don't need to change the verb
but cool
https://www.dict.cc/?s=calculate @ocean robin
Lieblingsbelag für Toast, then
How can you not know how to translate the 3rd sentence.
IDK Arrem.
You literally read it out loud for us. 😐
D__ _______ _______ im Rechnerraum.
🤔
Are there any books with half english half german pages? i saw one from Hegel's Science of Logic, each page split in half and they were english on the left german translation on the right
Is that the infinitive?
@vale moon Try googling for a text originally written in german with the feature"bilingual edition"
Paralleltext.io or something
rechne-
Something like that 🤔
flops-

Bäfe-
Swear to God we should dump this whole German thing and let her play memory games instead.
thanks
please no
@vale moon The app beelingua is also useful
Memory games like .... Memory
yes
Precisely.
wow TIL.
She just needs to play skribbl. We'll modify the game so that she has to draw Rechnerraum, every time
LOL
we gonna evolve her goldfish memory
Is flappy done with the 2nd sentence so I can ask some questions about it?
Flops wird gebannt werden, wenn sie irgendwelche Fehler macht.
- Does it make sense to use the future passive here?
- Can I use
wenninstead offalls? - Does
irgendwelchework?
- yes
- yes
- yes
Would you prefer falls or wenn?
in this case, i would prefer falls
german wenn is both if and when combined so it is easier to use but falls is a bit more formal
i'd personally go with wenn here but both fit here equally
Thanks!
By the way, is there a word that only means when (in the same context as wenn)?
wann
wann is only for time I thought
That's why I specificed it should be in the same context as wenn
Something like that, but that avoids the meaning of if
you could use "sobald" here but it implies that Fläppers is definitely going to make a mistake at some point
a bit like "as soon as"
während = while
grammatically speaking it would fit here as well but the meaning gets distorted
i don't think I understand this:
Obwohl der fremde Mann dadurch nichts erfahren haben konnte, was er nicht schon früher gewußt hätte,
Kafka, he said
wait
dadurch = therefore, as a result?
Yes.
but how did you get the part after that
In a way. How did you get the "as a result of exprwaopfaf yeah that
the part after that isn't in your quoted sentence part
rip
erfahren means to learn in this context not to experience
By the way, making mistakes is perfectly fine, you don't have to delete the whole thing, since that just makes it harder to help. 😉
Even though the foreign man could not get to know anything, what he had not known before, through it
as in: to learn new information
that's what I got from the sentence @twilit garden , but I guess I still don't understand it
ahaha
okay well 🤔
simple
He learned nothing, which he hasn't known before
he couldn't learn aynthing new from the question, but he is still asking anyway.
Ooookie 👍 ahaha
@hot cloak do you listen to audio books in german?
Damn, that's a shame. You could have just downloaded more RAM.
@hot cloak Storage? Do you want a HHD or a SSD?
SSDs are more expensive but they're faster
I see, what I did was, I got a SSD for my windows, just like mika
and chrome and stuff that I use a lot
Buy a big rope, tie up a cloud above your house and upload all your stuff there.
@tribal warren check #resources
free text + audio book for kafka
warning: it's extremely hard lol
@hot cloak that looks too hard, though, yea
i'm writing it all out page by page myself, and picking it apart.
@hot cloak It's just that I'm going on a trip and I want to do some audiobooks while I'm at it, but I don't know what to start with, I'm thinking Grimm Brothers
Your laptop has a hole where you can insert another hard drive? 🤔
anyway mitch
i've heard brothers grimm is hard too actually
@hot cloak are you reading it on paralleltext?
you are a brave man for trying kafka at your level
@JustNemoses yes
sorry 🙈
uh
@hot cloak It's hard, but I think I can understand it, after doing Rumpelstilstikin (gosh it's hard to type this name) last night
That's an SD card slot.
Reading an SD card from your phone with an adapter.
Rumpelstilzchen?
@pine ginkgo i mean its not impossible, just takes longer.
But I feel my weakest points right now are hard/long Satzbau, separable verbs, pronouns that may refer back to sentences or paragraphs earlier ahaha...
all of that kafka uses extensively
@twilit garden yup
still, looking at how thin it is
is Kafka a particular book or just the author?
i don't think you can add storage
Any recommendations for a audio book that I could try?
at most you can only replace it
The author.
Franz Kafka was a person
@whole rapids Franz Kafka
@whole rapids Der Prozess / Die Verwandlung are on parallel text / youtube free
He was that weird kid who wrote stories about people turning into bugs.
sounds familiar
his style of writing was kafkaesque 
What app?
@ocean robin try starting with the beginner level stories, they're pretty hard already and very entertaining.
👀
@sudden panther beelingua
Kafkaesque
ˌkafkəˈɛsk/
adjective
adjective: Kafkaesque
characteristic or reminiscent of the oppressive or nightmarish qualities of Franz Kafka's fictional world.
"nightmarish" jesus, sounds fun
might see if I can find it in the local library
like real life
@viscid cape does that app have Hörbücher? xd
good to hear yer scottish accent though @whole rapids
@tribal warren It can be used as such I think
lots of old books are on youtube @tribal warren
i mean sure, you can use SD cards to increase your stoarge
but that will be quite... volatile
oh, you heard it?
loife
and now you use a zero for an O
it's really unsafe to have important data on your sd card :D
that was delibr4te tho
jas' loike rael loife
FTFY
especially how easy it is to pop it
ar ya follin ento a Loch?
no idea
i would replace it myself anyway
if you only use it to store photos and data
sure, use a sd card
but don't install stuff on it
naw pal, ma Haem is th' Loch
/r/hardwaregore
or just consider getting an external hard drive
🔥 🦊 🔥 -> Burn Flappo.
@hot cloak the thing with old books is that they are very hard for me to follow when just doing an audio book, that's why I'm trying to look for something more simple, do you know if Frankenstein is a hard book in german?
Sorry I'm bored
@tribal warren i've heard its hard in english so lol
but if its on youtube, it most likely has the text on the internet too
"young adult" books are great for adult 2nd lang learners @tribal warren
no, not really
@hot cloak Like Harry Potter?
yh
wha we can tell you
sd cards are the cheapest
just make sure to have a dictionary at hand when you read such books
you have vastly different prices
theyll have more words than just kids books, but they won't have mind bending vocab or sentence structure
especially if you look at australia or SEA
like old, adult books
The thing is I'm going on a trip and I kinda get motion-sick reading stuff, so the plan was mostly listening xD
idk man only listening is realy hard
no
and you won't learn much
just look it up yourself
k I'll do Eine Reihe betrüblicher Ereignisse
Yup, I've watched it
But in english cause dubbings for a live-action thing are ehh
1. Das ist das Buch meines Bruders. 2. Das ist das Auto meiner Schwester. 3. Das sind die Freunde meines Kindes. 4. Das ist Paulas Tasche. 5. Das war Boris Beckers Fehler.
genitive 
It was Boris Becker's mistake
did it happen in a closet room? 
what 
he had an affair in a closet once
See, no need to be too scared of it
FINALLY FLOPS MASTERED GENITIVE

god I am proud :^)
so are we
Now nicht placement 
here 🍪
Let's see if you really mastered it.
christ
😏
i don't either lmao
please halp
possesion one of them of course...
i don't understand that either 🤔
is the other the use by prepositions?
Yeah but
1 and 2?
während, z.B
@viscid cape explain ur chart
and i didnt really spoil anything, flaps knows both
It's an exercise, you're supposed to answer it
yeah it was pretty vague
it's hard to answer
What part of it?
The 1st question
"determine the use" should be worded something like "in what cases should it be used?"
"two factors"
Don't they mean the same 🤔
christ I only know 1
sort of... but the 1st is really confusing lol
Okay, but that's what I meant.
Yeeeeees.
Possession is one of them.
OH YEAH
that use the genitive
<_< Mitch I'ma kill you
what are the two most common
Trotz/während
gj
👍
@viscid cape i already said the answer, was going to make it into something lmao
2nd questeronni
2. Do modifier endings change for all nouns for the genitive case?
They mean the article?
If so, yus
endings of the noun
Explain

okay well that is easy @viscid cape
noun endings is a better question
and 🤔 is that right?
But what is #2 then?
are there cases in fem/plural where the noun changes? (idk)
I don't think so 🤔
me either
Only neuter and masculine
Good.
Good.
And nouns endings, well I already said it
Yeah, I think we got everything covered.
let me do a drawing
Alright.

Are you sure nothing is missing there?
except the Sonntag, den 1. Oktober nope
Maybe an article?
🤔
flops hat der Genitiv schon beherrscht? <---- not correct, rip
TIL Genitive has an article
der Genitiv
'ayy
All cases are der.
for a direct translation, it isn't missing, but since it should have a "the" in English as well
You end up missing an article
Mastered Genitive. Bold claim. We'll see about that.

We should do a translation with 10 nested genitives
Also go with endlich. Schon = already.
christ
But first: Fix the translation!
It sounds harder than it is Flops
One thing is for sure: She mastered drawing😄
so dont worry
Flops beherrschte endlich den Genitiv 
Falsch.
muuuuuh
Why beherrschte?
Wait am I a cow to say "muuh"
must be hat beherrscht, no?
Yes you are. 
she can use the past tense mitch, that's not the problem here
oh didn't realize that was präteritum
I'd use present with beherrschen
I don't know what the problem is to be frank lol
Because past sounds like she no longer knows how to use it


Oh I see Korea
Then let's stick with past 😛
=D
probably more accuraye what with goldfish flops memory
With etwas meistern past would work


Okay Flappy
So Flappy, fix your sentence for more exercises
😉
WHAT THE FUCK
Go.
I need sentence first. 
k
god I am afraid
i am too
Don't be

It's literally repeating the same task 10 times flops
You're supposed to write your own.
And I am sure it'll be with the verb and noun "flops"
(might sound really bad in english, idk) The steak of the cow of the rancher of the ranch of the town of the district of the state of the nation of the continent of the world of the solar system tasted good.
WTF
Wonderful.
10x nested genitive
Prove your mastery Flips.
GOD WHAT
🙃🔫
This will teach her to never say she mastered something again.
i tap out
You tell us.
oh my god please
You said you mastered it. So you get a hard challenge.

The solar system's world's continent's nation's state's district's town's ranch's rancher's cow's steak tasted good
Does that look better 😛
inhales
Flaps, here is an easier alternative:
Thanks to the farmer's hungry army of pigs, whose snouts were injured because of the woman's evil legion of cats, the leftovers of the man's dinner were not eaten by the group of black crows.
what
I have another uber-genitive sentence lel
^
korea's original is the easiest
I blame Mitch.
LOL

Ok flappy, do you know what to do if you had 3 nouns?
I HAVE NO IDEA
Give us an assumption
🤔
V[2]
YEAH V2
so, something must be in [1]
DON'T FORGET ABOUT THAT
what is that?
ALL THAT GROUP OF GENITIVE
^
Is it true that there will be a reading session ? 👀
Yep!
Wann ?
It's really easy especially since Korea was kind enough to use the "of" genitive which puts em in the right order
Again flappy
If there were only 3 nouns
what would you do?
We know that if there are 2 nouns, then one goes into Genetive
Das Steaks der Kuh des Farmers der Farm der Stadt des Statteils der Beschaffenheit des Volkes des Kontinents der Welt der Solaranlage schmeckte gut.
dies
@ocean robin As it was so easy, I did it for you, but I will give you a harder one if you want.
Thanks to the farmer's hungry army of pigs, whose snouts were injured because of the woman's evil legion of cats, the leftovers of the man's dinner were not eaten by the group of black crows.
Dank der Arme der hungrigen Schweine des Bauerns, deren Schnauzen durch die böse Legion der Katzen der Frau verletzt worden waren, wurden die Essensreste des Abendessens des Mannes nicht von der Gruppe der schwarzen Krähen gefressen.
Solaranlage Lol lol lol lol lol
Ikr
It literally gives you the context next to the word. And you didn't bother reading it.
No she did the second word is the good word. But she didn't bother reading the part that said
Solar system [for solar heating etc.]

@pine ginkgo ^ /r/flopsbeingflops
I think she actually died
At least we didn't get Zustand.
True
You guys were too hard on her to be honest lol
HOWEVER she didnt butcher any of the genitives themselves so her claim is ok
someone should throw in words with weak declension as well in the next sentence to fuck with her help her more
You're supposed to be hard on someone who claims to have mastered a concept. 😛
But but she made a cute drawing
@ocean robin to be nice: das Steak der Kuh des Farmers der Farm des Dorfs des Bezirks des Staates der Nation des Kontinents der Welt des Solarsystems hat mir geschmeckt. 😉
Well next time the drawing will say that she solidified her knowledge instead. 😄
lol arrem
ikr
"The steaks of the cow of the rancher of the ranch of the city of the city quarter of the condition of the people of the continent of the world of the solar heating system tasted good" to translate back fløps german
So. Also gabs eine Übersetzung zur Beschaffenheit der Solaranlage?
Jo
Die Solaranlage ist vorzüglich. Allerdings müssen Kranplätze verdichtet sein, und Flops muss beschäftigt sein. Flops = RIF?
good morning friends
Echte Poesie 👏
I will continue to not exist 💔
I
'd. Totally not just now, but like 10 minutes ago.
@red pewter moin
❤ 😄
And I am
ing from the past.
❤ ❤ ❤ hope everyone is having a good sunday
As are you, I hope! 😃
As good as I can without coffee, ATM 😫
oomph
I AM BACK
^^
flaps ❤
Wb Solarflopplage
LOL
Flop!
I slept for 6 hours last night ❤
you memed up your word choice again
You shouldn't always put yourself down, Flappy. Your translations are getting better and better. ❤
yeah they're getting better
Nice typo, Flappy. ^^
LOL
We just like to fuck with meme with you
just saw that
💙
👀
But it's a friendly torture 💙
And yeah, I took a shower, that's why I wasn't here. I should have warned you. 😦
no you died from translating but God Arrem revived you
when you make a typo while in a flops session 
@ocean robin why did you even bother coming back if you weren't gonna fix your translation 

Big German milking language learners by changing the language rules so you need recent dictionaries 🤦
So long as your dictionary isn't older than 2006, you should be fine. ^^
Although the oldest I'd get is from 2007, to be safe.
i bought one from 1998...........
was four dollars though so
and it's just a little beginner one
so just really basic vocab kek
👀
@ocean robin I hope that Flappy will sleep well tonight.
but probably want Nacht instead of abend :p
weeeee thanks for cookie
Either works fine.
oh really?
There. A mouth to eat your cookie.
haha
But I agree, Nacht fits a little bit better.
LOL
ich will ein Cookie haben 😦

Heck
I just got a flat tire on my bike and I'm 2 miles away from home and 2 miles from the closest bike shop, which is also closed, and I have no spare inner tubes or pump or anything
There's a german sentence
Wer sein Rad liebt, schiebt.
If you love your bike, push it.
yea push it off a cliff
I like that!
ROMANI ITE DOMUM
@cold vessel alle Sprachen 😍
Ahem
Why the comma?
Also when we call something 'x time'
we say 'La hora del/de la x' or just 'Hora de x'
Depending on the situation
@unkempt stag because my spanish is no bueno
No gracias 
😦
Qué eh ehpañol
necesitamos torturar a koolaid con el español horrible 
pero nablo ehpañol
Estas hablando enserio o es una broma...?
🤔
Oh yeah
my spanish is too bad to actually keep up a conversation
Thought we were there
Okay that's actually all the spanish I can manage
your german fits right in there, teeeislein, don't worry
But why the random spelling?
@pine ginkgo 
I thot people eat all the s's
cause in Harlem Shake it's like colloterrorihtah
🤔
anyway I'll need a lot more Duolingo before I can actually say anything apart from Hola and Adiós
and no hablo español
and el pato bebe leche
someone feed me translation material
hehehe
filipo
I'm curious too
What, I am A1 in Spainish, I can say only hello and things like that 👀
I fuckin' hate the Duolingo spanish course
I kinda wish I chose spanish instead of german since it's so much more useful here
Oh right, you're french not spoonish

@shy bobcat this guy pretends to speak spanish
IDK if the duo course is good or not but I found it mindnumbingly boring
"pretends"
GG Duolingo.
I don't mind it being latin spanish but yeah, word dump :c
I feel like I'm not picking up what Memrise is putting down
for Spanish?
Memrise is better than Duo for German, imo
I feel like memrise is good for vocab after you already understand grammar
Memrise doesn't help with grammar in german at all i feel like
use created courses I mean
Yeah no
Creepy, I am going to give you translation material 
but Duolingo is fucking annoying
Do it
Agreed
they e-mail you constantly
flappsy
You can turn those off
yeah but crosses arms
please solet
dw luna is here for backup
don't.
@fair iron babysit us pls
i won't explain if you do
lol Casca come for translatioronni
Nuuuuh Solet.
And what's the theme of today? Passive? :v
Happy to be here. ^^
Ah, the hero we deserve
My theme's always passive 😢
Look hero of the day is here.
😦
How many people are taking part today? You and Creepy?
snek is a good snek today
I dunno, is Snek taking part as well?
I gotta go to school
😮
Awwww.
my bike's broke so walking will take 90 minutes 😦
🕷
😮
Damn. :/
I always take part, I just don't always post my try 🤷
Süße Spinne 😄
henbruas 😠
excuse me
Bell, care to join us? 😃
yes!
Yes they are
cbell, ?
especially the fuzzy ones
Why must you hate the smol animals
@pine ginkgo excuse me I have never "pretended I speak Spanish" I spoke bad Spanish and then admitted to it

Spiders are lovely.
crêpu, don't lose to the challengers 
no pressure i guess
Okay I am the only one who thinks they are meh. >_>
i don't pretend i'm anything over B0 😰
"No pressure" okay I am triggered 
Are you better in Esperanto than Spanish, ari?
Yes
_>
spiders are adorable
please no
Spoder ❤
I am nit afraid of them but UGH AGH
casca is preparing for a huge wave
O_O
ich liebe alle Spinnen
I know righto
Creepy: Even though many people don't like them, I think that spiders are great.
Flappy: Toto, I've the feeling that we're not in Kansas anymore.
Henbruas: My Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates.
Bell: You never know what you're gonna get.
I pressed enter by mistake.
I would join but I'm in math class 😦
extra points if people can tell the source of the translation
Should I use Trotzdem or Obwohl here
And also when seeing "Toto" I was like "God is this a french reference"
What's the theme of this lesson :? last time we did adjectives :?
Obwohl.

The theme seems to be (film) quotes. ^^
Movie? 🤔
yep
Yeah of course that someone talks about spiders in a fils 
Like a picture, just animated, and with sound.
Not every translation is a quote.
Only the last three are.
yep
Bonus points if you can name the film. ^^
Toto, I've the feeling that we're not in Kansas anymore.
We're in Africa now. Time to bless the rain.
👌
Man weiß noch nie was man werde bekommen. (forrest gump)
🤔
What's the conjugation for One knows?
....you saw nothing 😄
Better. 😄
Toto, ich habe das Gefühl, das wir noch mehr ins Kansas sind. 
lel
i thought noch nie was never 🤔
very interesting
[...] that we are even more in Kansas, Flappy?
noch nie is never ever
goddamn 🤔
kinda like that
oh
Implying not yet
that seems sometimes more adequate :P
....well you never ever know 😂 I'll take it out. I thought niemands was never ever :?
flaps
So which one of those is it
read the sentence
^
🤔
Man weiß nie was man werde bekommen.
read casca's sentence
Thought about nicht mehr ar first
and then please stop flopsing
Anymore is not the same as not anymore.
So what should it be, Flappy? ^^
why werde bell?
^
Obwohl viele Leute mag ihnen nicht, Ich denke, dass Spinnen sind toll.
Is the answer right in the front of my eyes?
agh agh
I interpreted "what you're gonna get" as "what one will get"
Why ihn, Creepy?
now bell
Almost.
what happens to the verb
Syntax.
in subordinating clauses
Meine Mama hat immer gesagt, dass das Leben wie eine Schokoladenschachtel war.
I hope you weren't expecting Konjunktiv 1 😬
Man weiß nie was man bekommen wird.
Toto, ich habe das Gefühl, das wir nicht mehr ins Kansas sind. Tell me it was only flopsing, I would be happy 
uhm
Viele Leute mag sie nicht ?
I was not, Henbruas.
where is your konjunktiv
So well done. ^^
exactly?
Technically konj I works though I think, but coming from Forrest Gump it would sound weird I think
Creepy, zu mögen, third person plural.
@pine ginkgo The second clause is reported speech, isn't it?
but why war
Because that's the quote, Solet. 🤔

oh, I thought mag was one of those you could stick anywhere.
Obwohl viele Leute mögen sie nicht, ich denke, dass Spinnen sind toll
Where should mögen go?
Is the quote not "life is like a box of chocolates"
The quote is actually life WAS like a box of chocolates.
wow
@pine ginkgo I said I wasn't doing Konjunktiv
It's one of the most popular misquotes. ^^
This is like "Luke I am your father" lol
Wut @fair iron
i thought you were snarky
Man weiß nie was man bekommen wird. am I done :?
Yep. ^^