general-2

[ocean robin]

Looks at "die Frau der Katze" nervously 👀

[quasi merlin]

Hunde haben Herrchen, Katzen haben Personal.

[shy bobcat]

@quasi merlin oh no doubt, since I just dictionary through everything so I can focus more on grammar 😅

well

[fair iron]

I don't think you're too far off, though, Arizona.
Sure, you make some silly mistakes sometimes, but at the same time you also manage to impress when talking about certain concepts and ideas.

[shy bobcat]

in these translation things

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

your grammar is pretty solid

[shy bobcat]

I don't try to use a dictionary when I talk

[pine ginkgo]

(most times)

[shy bobcat]

ok I butchered phrasing in english

😅

"I try not to use a dictionary"

well I can barely speak my native language so bye bye german

anyway

[silk locust]

hm?

[shy bobcat]

translate time 😄

[ocean robin]

and meh can I get B soon

;u;

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust you butchered some german, I pinged you

way back up there

[silk locust]

serieuser = more serious

i thought

yeah

[shy bobcat]

serieus

[silk locust]

in dutch we use 'serieuzer'

[pine ginkgo]

if you stop making mistakes

yes flops

[silk locust]

for the comparative

[ocean robin]

;_;

[shy bobcat]

the german spelling is "seriös" tala

and idk if it's the most common word for it

[silk locust]

wut

seriös?

[shy bobcat]

yes

[silk locust]

so 'seriöser'?

apparently it is

[fair iron]

Yep.

[shy bobcat]

yeah, I think "ernst" and "ernsthaft" exist though

and IDK if they sound better

[whole rapids]

have you taken a test before, @shy bobcat?

[ocean robin]

Can I have short sentence?

[shy bobcat]

I've never taken anything official

@fair iron would you say that "ernst" "ernsthaft" or "seriös" is the best word

[whole rapids]

I think you could pass B2, I haven't done C1 yet, so don't know

[shy bobcat]

I'm fairly sure I'm B2

[fair iron]

You're at least B2.

[ocean robin]

I am fairly sure I am A1

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin

[whole rapids]

are you in speaking like you are in writing?

[fair iron]

I wouldn't really consider one better than the others, Arizona.

[sudden panther]

Ari is definitely B2.

[fair iron]

^

[shy bobcat]

@whole rapids I'm a little slow when I speak but eh

[fair iron]

You're A2, Flappy.

At least.

[whole rapids]

I mean

[ocean robin]

Woooo.

[whole rapids]

do you derp on grammar or whatever

[shy bobcat]

IDK how much of that is genuine sucking and how much is just nervousness

[severe oyster]

Speaking of those tests. I've done some digging around and I can't find anything so I figured I could ask. Does anyone have a link to any practice tests for the A/B levels?

[sudden panther]

At least.

[ocean robin]

[shy bobcat]

because I talk faster to myself than when I'm in VC

[fair iron]

Nervousness, probably.

[shy bobcat]

in german

[sudden panther]

The thing with Flops is that she has lots of tiny holes here and there that are holding her back and need to be patched up.

[silk locust]

hm

[whole rapids]

Search for TelC or DaF when you are searching @severe oyster

[silk locust]

i dont know what i'd be tbh

[ocean robin]

Nervousness, probably.
story if my life when speaking english

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust Idk you make some pretty hilarious mistakes

[silk locust]

I'm somewhat conversational, but i fuck up cases

[sudden panther]

@severe oyster Check the topic of #resources

[silk locust]

and that makes me feel bad

i'm dutch, i should be able to do those easily

yet somehow i fail 😦

[shy bobcat]

"Dieses Server ist doch geannexiert dem Deutscher" actual @silk locust quote

[severe oyster]

Ah thanks!

[silk locust]

^ can confirm

unfortunately

[whole rapids]

cases aren't very important for tests, as long as you are understood

[sudden panther]

Ban dem Deutscher.

[shy bobcat]

lel

[silk locust]

i wanted to say ''This server is annexed by the germans, however''

there

[ocean robin]

[shy bobcat]

yeah @silk locust we know what you meant

[sudden panther]

Eh, any grammar mistake will cost you points in the official tests.

[shy bobcat]

the grammar is just so bad

[silk locust]

Imo, the cases are the most important part

[shy bobcat]

"Dieser Server wurde jedoch von den Deutschen annexiert"

[silk locust]

look, dutch and german are extremely similar

the only 2 things that really differ tbh is

that german has more germanic vocab

• cases

[ocean robin]

Now I must master Genitive.

[whole rapids]

well, in the B1 tests it seems not greatly important

[silk locust]

dutch doesn't really inflect much anymore in adjectives and nouns nor articles

[shy bobcat]

tl;dr dutch is just stupid german

[silk locust]

ye

actually, i did some research though

on what germanic langs were most conservative

[sudden panther]

tldr; dood zijn hond

[ocean robin]

🤔

[silk locust]

turns out middle dutch was more conservative than middle high german!

[twilit garden]

www.gls-berlin.de/2449.html @severe oyster that's another one

[whole rapids]

my German seems to fall apart when I speak, but I still passed the B1 est and could probably pass the B2 test too, from what I hear, but I don't want to pay for it

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust yeah but then the germans got it back and y'all went into De Hell

[silk locust]

i did the test as well

from goethe or something

the free online one

[whole rapids]

I did an official one

[silk locust]

but because i couldnt understand everything due to my deafness i lost some points i think

[whole rapids]

with people and shit

was horrible

[silk locust]

somehow i got a b1 tho

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust understands german better than he speaks it tho, because dutch, but his own grammar needs fixing

[silk locust]

but i'd call myself a2, though i can conversate with germans

if it's calm and there are no others talking

[shy bobcat]

tala genitives 😩

[whole rapids]

"conversate" lol

[silk locust]

i once was in a burger king though

[whole rapids]

makes you sound like a roboto

[silk locust]

and then asked for a burger

biggest mistake

i couldnt understand shit

so i got as red as a communist

my whole face etc

[twilit garden]

Wad will je hebben?

[silk locust]

and then i uttered in semi broken english

[shy bobcat]

if you're deaf + foreign people would probably be pretty forgiving though

[silk locust]

''uhmmmmmmm'' burger''

[whole rapids]

just say "Ja" and hope for the best

[silk locust]

;-;

[shy bobcat]

😄

[silk locust]

most traumatising moment tbh

Wat* @twilit garden

[shy bobcat]

but yeah, you had this funny idea of how genitives work

[pine ginkgo]

funny

as funny as flapps?

[shy bobcat]

"Des Hauses meines" for "my house" for example lel

[silk locust]

how do you mean funny?

[pine ginkgo]

or even more funny?

[silk locust]

oh yeah lol

[twilit garden]

That was bad fake dutch Niederbauer

[shy bobcat]

@pine ginkgo you decide if that's flöppl level or not

[silk locust]

i thought both nouns and adjectives had to agree

but it wasn't

only the adjectives and articles need to really agree

always, that is

[pine ginkgo]

they are different level of funniness, teeeisle

[shy bobcat]

niederbauer's kinda been a meme in other servers we're on for his interesting grasp of german

[silk locust]

der die das die
des der des der
dem der dem den
den die das die

right?

that's from memory though

[whole rapids]

interesting order

[shy bobcat]

yeah those are fine

nom gen dat acc

🤔

nom gen acc dat please

[silk locust]

it's masculine-feminine-neuter-plural

also, nom-gen-dat-acc is how we learn it in dutch schools

and iirc they do so in germany too

[whole rapids]

yeah, I meant the cases like the beverage man said

[silk locust]

ah

[whole rapids]

really? unexpected

[silk locust]

ye

[shy bobcat]

tbh nom gen acc dat just looks better imo

[silk locust]

i have a niece that speaks german natively

so yeah

but she lives far away

[upper geyser]

is there a language learning compulsion?

[shy bobcat]

probably

tbh

[silk locust]

leider weiß ich nicht wie es ist, zu Klardeutsch reden

[pine ginkgo]

klardeutsch

🤔

[quasi merlin]

nom gen acc dat

What kind of order is that, Arizona?

[shy bobcat]

zu Klardeutsch reden

🤔

[silk locust]

''clear German'' aka easily understandable

[shy bobcat]

the order I've been ordering cases with since forever @quasi merlin

[quasi merlin]

I know know: Nom., Gen., Dat., Acc. or Nom., Acc., Dat., Gen.

[silk locust]

i'm writing a doc btw

[shy bobcat]

meh, why do people put such emphasis on what order cases go in

[fair iron]

Om Nom Nom.

[shy bobcat]

it transmits the same info no matter what

[pine ginkgo]

because some people

fail

if they see another system

[pine ginkgo]

oh dutch

how cute

[quasi merlin]

Because some people number them and it gets confusing.

[silk locust]

^

[pine ginkgo]

haha

[shy bobcat]

yeah he's dutch, that's why I think his german fails are really hilarious

[silk locust]

uhu

[pine ginkgo]

me whenever people talk about the 2nd declination in latin

😦

[opal sequoia]

Onzijdig?

[silk locust]

neutrum

it's dutch for ''neuter''

[opal sequoia]

Wow.

[silk locust]

it literally means ''un-/neither-side-ish''

[opal sequoia]

I didn't know Dutch is like that.

[whole rapids]

it's so different

use Latin more pls

[silk locust]

De Nederlandse taal is wel vergelijkbaar met het Duits, maar het is ook weer 'n eigen wereldje op zich.

@opal sequoia

that's dutch

[sudden panther]

Nice test Nemosause. I should add it to #resources.

[opal sequoia]

I like it.

[silk locust]

it can get worse though with declinations @pine ginkgo 😉

[shy bobcat]

Dutch is funny

[silk locust]

this is from pgmc

from my own document

that's the a-stem btw

there's another case, the vocative in that language

but usually it was the same as nominative

[shy bobcat]

Dutch is funny because half of it is like "oh I can read this it's just weird German" and then half of it's like "guikelijkgeguissen"

[silk locust]

ikr dreng

Gelijkenissen

maybe you search that word?

[pine ginkgo]

you much do you like

new kids

[silk locust]

oh yeah

[shy bobcat]

what @pine ginkgo

[silk locust]

i've watched new kids

of course

i've yet to encounter a dutchman that doesn't know our show

[shy bobcat]

oooh

[pine ginkgo]

well, we don't know the origins really

but germans did really like the movies

[silk locust]

it's from the netherlands

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust does that mean "likeness" or anything similar übrigens

[silk locust]

produced there

[pine ginkgo]

yep i know

but not a lot of people "care" about that let's say that

[silk locust]

it was from a serie called New Kids, there's also New Kids Nitro

ahw :(

@shy bobcat it means ''similarities''

[pine ginkgo]

i guess our stereotypical idiots are kinda similar

[silk locust]

so yeah, close

[pine ginkgo]

:D

[silk locust]

those people are brabantians tho

in the new kids show

[pine ginkgo]

kinda wished i knew dutch

so i can compare the original with our dub

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust do you have no word like ähnlich in Dutch

since Ähnlichkeiten would be "similarities" in German

[silk locust]

ähnlich is cognate with 'alleen' + -lijk in dutch iirc

and that means something different

it means 'alone'

the -lijk means the same as -lich tho

[shy bobcat]

ähnlich is cognate with alone 🤔

what happened to allein 😛

[silk locust]

wait

nvm

look

[sudden panther]

Mmmm updated resource list.

[pine ginkgo]

updated flops ban?

🤔

teeeis

[sudden panther]

Deal.

Is Flopso dead?

[pine ginkgo]

how well did flappsy do today

she is sleep

[shy bobcat]

I wasn't paying attention

[pine ginkgo]

good job

[shy bobcat]

I don't remember her doing much of anything

[pine ginkgo]

you keep your sanity

if you pay attention to flops

you gonna lose

[sudden panther]

She might have translated 2 sentences or something.

[shy bobcat]

@silk locust so in total "ähnlich" means "one-alike-like" 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

wow

and she wanted a pluspunkt

🤔

[silk locust]

uhu

test

[pine ginkgo]

rip pic

[silk locust]

yea lol

here is it back

[quasi merlin]

I can read the first sentence and then ... keinen Bock mehr.

[silk locust]

Bock?

[shy bobcat]

Bock literally means like "goat" but it's one of those things they use in phrases a lot

[quasi merlin]

https://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Ich+habe+keinen+Bock.html

[silk locust]

ah

''geen zin meer''

''kan me 'n reet roesten''

anyways it is genesis 1.1-1.5

i wrote that

as a fun experiment

[shy bobcat]

🤓 🤓 🤓

what do those two dutch phrases literally mean @silk locust

[silk locust]

''no desire anymore'' - ''can me an arse rust''

[shy bobcat]

can me an arse rust

dutch confirmed

[pine ginkgo]

LMAA

[ancient spade]

@tribal warren I'm answering you here

General1 is pretty hectic lol

[tribal warren]

yea

[ancient spade]

It's not as good as it could be, but it's getting better

[tribal warren]

what are you studying currently?

do you focus at one thing at a time or just do general stuff?

[ancient spade]

I don't really have a focus at the moment, since I still need to cover some of the foundation

But I'm almost getting into the aprofundamento phase

Where I'll focus on some specific subjects

[tribal warren]

I see

I was studying Trabalho da Força Elétrica today

the exercises are too boring tho

I'm so fucking hyped for calculus in UNI lol

[ancient spade]

Hahha

It's really cool

I'm studying electrical circuits, getting into capacitors

[tribal warren]

capacitors lol

Q=C*U, right?

[ancient spade]

Yep

Pretty easy to remember lol

[tribal warren]

yea

[ancient spade]

I mean, with the mnemonic

[tribal warren]

yes I know

Que Cu

best mnemonic is that one for Gauss' Lens Equation

also known as Equaçao da Fimose

fuckinig genius

[ancient spade]

Lol

I don't know it

I know the equation

[tribal warren]

Uma fimose é igual a um penis mais uma pelinha

pelinha = p'

[ancient spade]

Hahauhaa

Never heard this one

[tribal warren]

its so good

now you wont forget it

[ancient spade]

Yep

[tribal warren]

I like how straight forward ITA is

like questions with 3 lines

[ancient spade]

Yeah

Three deadly lines

[tribal warren]

ENEM is my enemy

[ancient spade]

ENEMy

[tribal warren]

haha nice

like I rather do ITA and be destroyed

ENEM just tires me up, makes me miss a lot of dumb stuff and get mad cause I need to do dumb math

[ancient spade]

Hahaha those huge texts are awful

[tribal warren]

yea I'm only doing this year cause it's the biggest one and it's kind of my plan B

good thing I'm going for USP

[ancient spade]

Yeah

You're gonna get it

[tribal warren]

I have confidence 8)

Not too much though

Just enough

[ancient spade]

Haha I see

I have exactly zero expectations

[tribal warren]

how did you go last year?

how did it go

[ancient spade]

Math was surprisingly good

Physics was a massacre

Chemistry was pretty crazy too

[tribal warren]

but overall, do you think you got close to getting it?

and was it better than 2015

[ancient spade]

No

It was better

But there's a reason for it

I didn't manage to cover all the content in time for the exams

And I had mostly focused on math

I barely studied chemistry tbh

[tribal warren]

what fucked you up?

organic?

I don't really know what's usually on their test 🤔

[ancient spade]

Everything

Lol

[tribal warren]

ah man but there are some topics that always repeat themselves

[ancient spade]

Yes

[tribal warren]

you know what I mean

from those, which ones fucked you up, do you remember?

(in chemistry)

[ancient spade]

Organic chemistry was prob the worst

[tribal warren]

I see

I'm pretty good at it, I think

Like there are probably stuff that I don't know cause ITA wants you to know some dumb organic specific knowledge

[ancient spade]

Yeah

[tribal warren]

but like for the most of it, and what fuvest wants

I'm pretty good at that

[ancient spade]

Let me show something from last year's test

[tribal warren]

sure

lemme see if I know it 8)

[ancient spade]

Question 25

[sudden panther]

no hablo français

[tribal warren]

kind of a biology sorta question

[sudden panther]

plsdontbanme

[tribal warren]

hahaha

[ancient spade]

Lol

[tribal warren]

ácido lático

[ancient spade]

That's Spanish, you dummie

[tribal warren]

does it want the reaction

or the process?

[ancient spade]

Probably just the reaction

[tribal warren]

shit

[ancient spade]

With a very good explanation

[tribal warren]

that's a very specific question tbh

[ancient spade]

Maybe I'm just bad at chemistry though lol

[tribal warren]

not really

but I think it's biology

[ancient spade]

It's a chemistry question

[tribal warren]

fermentacao alcoolica

acido latico = C3H6O3

[ancient spade]

There's no biology test

[tribal warren]

oh yea right

[ancient spade]

Yeah, it's crazy

Anyway

I have to go

[tribal warren]

okay

I should aswell but this discord is so fun to procastinate haha

[ancient spade]

Yeah haha

But remember

[tribal warren]

I did like 25 exercises today..

only

[ancient spade]

We're practicing English

[tribal warren]

meh

english is easy on vestibulares

[ancient spade]

That's right haha

I got 95 last year

But the texts in ITA are pretty hard

[tribal warren]

well ITA's always next level

haha

[ancient spade]

Yea lol

Anyway, see you

[tribal warren]

cya

maybe vc tomorrow, if we have time 😄

[ancient spade]

Yeah

In the evening

[tribal warren]

k then

it's set

[ancient spade]

Cool

[obtuse forge]

no habla iiiiingles :3

duuuuu und iiiiich

du och jag för alltid o3o

[jaunty iris]

hallo leute! what does bock mean? in like a slang way I think, I"ve looked it up but all I get is goat

eg du hast auch keinen Bock | I also have no goat ?

[thick charm]

https://www.dict.cc/?s=bock+haben

[jaunty iris]

so like motivation?

[thick charm]

It's an idiom, only works with 'haben'

Ich habe Bock = I'm down

(for something)

[jaunty iris]

danke!!

ich habe vielen goat

[sudden panther]

Are you trying to be formal or not?

[placid heath]

Formal: Ich wünsche Ihnen einen guten Tag!
Informal: Guten Tag! (or: Hallo!)

[frail oak]

It was more than one. Do plural "you"

@placid heath

[placid heath]

?

[ocean robin]

Ihr? Sie for formal?

[fair iron]

Korea did do plural you.

[shy bobcat]

translateroonoo?

@ocean robin come on let's have fun

[ocean robin]

Can't, I will have to go soon to eat a magnificent tacos.

[dire sentinel]

I wanna play

[shy bobcat]

a magnificent tacos

grammar

yo anyone got some stuff to translate

[dire sentinel]

i'll give you some if you give me some

[shy bobcat]

I don't know where to find stuff

[dire sentinel]

make somethin up

Oh casca is here

he will care for us

[fair iron]

Arizona: It came as a surprise to me that my own father wanted nothing more than to visit France before he died.

Creepy: After giving the man enough money, I went home with my Halloween decorations.

^^

[dire sentinel]

oh boy 🎃

[shy bobcat]

"Es war eine Überraschung für mich, dass mein eigener Vater nichts mehr wollte, als Frankreich zu besuchen, bevor er gestorben ist."

🤔

that last verb tense is probably wrong

[fair iron]

Well that was fast.

Replace mehr.

[shy bobcat]

there wasn't any funky words I had to look up

with what

[fair iron]

*weren't. 😛

With weiteres.

[shy bobcat]

you're correcting my native language now 👀

with that "weren't"

[fair iron]

I help where I can. ^^

[cold vessel]

@shy bobcat Somehow saying "tacos" as a plural doesn't sound that bad to me 🤔

[shy bobcat]

it sounds fine

but >a tacos

[cold vessel]

err

I meant as a singular

Else what I said would be pretty obvious ...

[dire sentinel]

Nachdem hatte ich dem Mann genug Geld geben, ging ich nach Hause mit meinen Halloweendekorationen (?)

[fair iron]

What gender is Dekoration?

[dire sentinel]

fem?

[fair iron]

Yep.

So what should meine be?

(It's plural.)

[dire sentinel]

Meinen

[fair iron]

Correct. 😃

The only thing left to do is to place hatte at the end of the first clause.

And to change the conjugation of geben.

(It should be in the past tense.)

[dire sentinel]

Nachdem ich dem Mann genug Geld gegeben hatte, ging ich nach Hause mit meinen Halloweendekorationen

eeeeee doesn't feel right

[shy bobcat]

hatten 🤔

why did you change it

[fair iron]

^

[dire sentinel]

misplay

[fair iron]

Now it's perfect. 😃

[shy bobcat]

😄

[dire sentinel]

So in this case in the second half, Ich is nom, home is akk, and the decorations are dative 🤔

[thick charm]

There's one little thing

Time, manner, place

It's technically correct, but I'd write "ging ich mit meinen Halloweendekorationen nach Hause."

[shy bobcat]

well I guess just for formality's sake (though it was only one word off) I'd better write the right version of mine too

"Es war eine Überraschung für mich, dass mein eigener Vater nichts weiteres wollte, als Frankreich zu besuchen, bevor er gestorben ist."

[dire sentinel]

guess that sounds better

yeah ok now I understand the cases

in that sentence

particularly

[fair iron]

Arizona: The investigating officer sat the apprehended suspect down, turned on the recorder, and interrogated him.

Creepy: I am looking forward to Halloween, as I enjoy carving pumpkins.

[shy bobcat]

I see you've taken the "there weren't/wasn't any weird words" thing as a challenge 👀

[fair iron]

I just wrote down the first thing that came to mind.

[shy bobcat]

bc I have no idea how to say the transitive version of "sit down" like that

[fair iron]

Use haben.

[dire sentinel]

Ich auf Halloween wartend, weil ich Kuerbisse schnitzend gern ??? I tried to look at how to translate "looking forward to" but I wasn't sure how to use anything dict.cc had for me

[shy bobcat]

no I mean the verb itself, how do you say "to sit smb. down" in that context

[fair iron]

Jemanden hinsetzen.

Ich freue mich auf Halloween, Creepy.

[shy bobcat]

thx 😉

[dire sentinel]

Oh, well that's just too easy

lunch time

ping me if the rest was wrong

[fair iron]

@dire sentinel Sorry. 😦

Enjoy your meal!

[shy bobcat]

Der Ermittlungsbeamter hat den verhafteten Verdächtigen hingesetzt, das Aufzeichnungsapparat angemacht und ihn befragt?

[fair iron]

Impressive as always.

[shy bobcat]

caught that und-komma before you could say anything 😉

[fair iron]

I miss the Oxford comma in German. :/

[shy bobcat]

:/

[pine ginkgo]

i miss casca

[shy bobcat]

🤔

[fair iron]

Awww. ❤

[sudden panther]

Ban everyone.

[shy bobcat]

The meme has entered the building 😄

[fair iron]

Even the alphabet says NO, Arrem.

It also says HI, but that's irrelevant.

[shy bobcat]

Arrem für Deutschlernserver 💙

I know full well what that spells out before anyone mentions 😛

[pine ginkgo]

how was floppel torture today

[shy bobcat]

nonexistent, mostly

[pine ginkgo]

unfortunate.

[shy bobcat]

well, you're the Flops-Quälkönig, so.... maybe get on with some Flopsquälen?

😛

[fair iron]

Don't forget that she's currently busy eating a tacos.

[shy bobcat]

oh true

hope it's the best single tacos she ever had 😛

[sudden panther]

Taco are the best.

[shy bobcat]

casca corrected my english and now I'm asking myself how I'm supposed to learn german 👀

[pine ginkgo]

by doing it

[sudden panther]

Alternatively just accept the fact that you suck.

[cold vessel]

"Taco" in plural also sounds fine to me. My English Sprachgefühl must be completely off 👀

[shy bobcat]

"A tacos" sounds fine to you?

[cold vessel]

Somehow

😳

[thick charm]

A (n unhealthy amount of) tacos

the stuff in parentheses is implied

[fair iron]

That must have been it.

[shy bobcat]

🌮 🌮 🌮

if anyone's gonna eat a ... tacos, it's gonna be me 🤠 🇲🇽 🌵

[dire sentinel]

Not if I beat u there pardner

🌮

[fair iron]

Creepy's back. 🎉

Hope you enjoyed your meal.

Ready to continue? ^^

[dire sentinel]

Sure

[fair iron]

Ich freue mich auf Halloween, weil ich Kuerbisse schnitzend gern.

[pine ginkgo]

creepy torture time, but not really

[fair iron]

^^

The second clause needs correcting, after weil ich Kürbisse.

[dire sentinel]

Ich freue mich auf Halloween, weil ich gerne Kürbisse schnitzend

?

[fair iron]

Almost!

schnitzend is still wrong.

[pine ginkgo]

i wanna bully creepy

but i let casca do it

[fair iron]

What you wrote is the state of carving (a pumpkin).

Except we're looking for a conjugated verb.

[dire sentinel]

-d ?

[fair iron]

What would I carve be?

[dire sentinel]

Or should

Schnitze

Hold on I'm on a phone now

[fair iron]

Yep. 😃

[thick charm]

+z

👌

[fair iron]

(I took the missing z as her being on a phone.)

[thick charm]

that was most likely it, yeah

Wanted to mention it just in case

[fair iron]

Ich freue mich auf Halloween, weil ich gern(e) Kürbisse schnitze.

We're now finished. ^^

[shy bobcat]

✅

[dire sentinel]

Why is it gern(e)

[thick charm]

can be either one

[fair iron]

It can be either gern or gerne.

[thick charm]

gern or gerne

[dire sentinel]

Depending on?

[fair iron]

The dictionary often lists it as gern(e) for that reason.

[thick charm]

your mood

[fair iron]

Depending on preference.

^

[dire sentinel]

Oh dope

Gerne is way cuter

[fair iron]

I also prefer gerne. ^^

[shy bobcat]

I like gern better lel ^^

[fair iron]

More often than not, anyway.

[dire sentinel]

I would ask for another one but I need muh dictionary window for figuring out most new sentences

So, in a bit

[shy bobcat]

I really do need to do more work on vocab than grammar at this pt lol

[fair iron]

I'm rather tired, for some reason.

Is it too early to go to bed? 🤔

[knotty pagoda]

me too bro

[dire sentinel]

Same tbh

Drink a coffee

[fair iron]

I'm not a fan of coffee, personally.

[knotty pagoda]

and i have to be up late since my marching band is going to perform @ a hs (american) football game

[fair iron]

Ooh, have fun!

[shy bobcat]

not a fan of coffee 😦

but coffee is amazing

[dense rivet]

That reminds me

[dire sentinel]

[thick charm]

I'm a big proponent of loud music

[dense rivet]

I want some coffee

[thick charm]

If you're tired but don't want to sleep

[sudden panther]

Man I'm tired. But in Wien. Totally worth it.

[lavish saddle]

I feel ya

Flights are exhausting ^^ glad you made it back to paradise safely

[sudden panther]

We drove. 😛

[pine ginkgo]

fuck arrem

[lavish saddle]

Ew, driving

😄

[sudden panther]

Driving. ❤

[lavish saddle]

well, driving is exhausting too xD

(jk, I miss driving man :D)

[hot cloak]

Jesus christ

How did you even survive

[sudden panther]

My parents are staying in the guest rooms of my silly Wohnheim, and the smelly memers didn't clean out the rooms before giving them the keys. So I had to talk to the Indian janitor to get that done. I'll no longer say bad things about anyone's accent on here. 👌

[pine ginkgo]

please continue saying bad things

[sudden panther]

Eh it's not that bad. It's a ~5h drive. I've been through worse.

[lavish saddle]

didn't even clean it? rewd

[sudden panther]

A friend of mine drove to fucking Belgium last week. BELGIUM.

[hot cloak]

[sudden panther]

Yeah they forgot and I had them send someone over.

[lavish saddle]

They're visiting paradise though 😮 whoaa

I gotta force my dad over here to look at Wien one of these days, but that old fart is hard to convince :T

[sudden panther]

Paradise is where the is. 😍

Dooooiiiiiiit.

[lavish saddle]

He says he wants to visit me over here

but all I hear is ''but the dog''

😠

people dogsit

you must see wien, get your booty over here!

🤔 are there any places in particular that I should take him in Wien

because one day, he wil be forced for sure

(I haven't done that much exploring there yet)

[fair iron]

Schönbrunn Palace, Hofburg, Belvedere, St. Stephen's Cathedral.

[sudden panther]

There are tons of cool thingos to see.

[lavish saddle]

Creepy and I are going to check out some places together

including a cat café 😄

[sudden panther]

Wait you got Creepy to come to Wien? 🤔

[lavish saddle]

She has another friend in Wien, but it's such a short train ride and she knows I'm here too

so we just kinda decided to meet up 😄

Since it was already her plan to go there ^u^woot

[ocean robin]

I am ready for translatrionni.

[lavish saddle]

The child sits in the mother's car

😛 go

[hot cloak]

and don't use "von" :^)

that's easymode

[lavish saddle]

^

[ocean robin]

"Das Kind setzt in das Auto der Mutter"? Or "Auto" should be dative?

[hot cloak]

yup, it should be dative

[shy bobcat]

Das Kind sitzt in der Mutter ihrem Auto (ignore this entirely)

[ocean robin]

[cold vessel]

If you use setzt akkusativ makes sense, doesn't it? 😛

Although the meaning is different

Well, it lacks something

[ocean robin]

So uuuh waito.

"Das Kind setzt in dem Auto der Mutter."

There. Perfecto.

[lavish saddle]

no

[shy bobcat]

im

[ocean robin]

Wew yay.

Ah hah ahhhh.

[hot cloak]

whats the proper conjugation for the 3rd person of sitzen

[lavish saddle]

what is the setzt 😒

[ocean robin]

lel

I must go for a 20 mins.

[cold vessel]

Is "Das Kind setzt sich ins Auto der Mutter." grammatically correct?

[lavish saddle]

wut 🤔

[hot cloak]

what lol

[cold vessel]

That doesn't work then?

Just doing some literal translation from Norwegian again 😛

[hot cloak]

it does

no worries

it just conveys a different meaning (to sit down -> the process of sitting down)

[cold vessel]

Right

That's why I used the akkusative

[lavish saddle]

Right

[hot cloak]

"auto der mutter"... 🤔

does that imply its the kid's mother?

[lavish saddle]

wut

the car of the mother

the mother's car

[hot cloak]

right

[lavish saddle]

the kids sitting down in the mothers car xD

[hot cloak]

right

does that also imply its the mother of the kid?

or just.... "Mother"

[lavish saddle]

I'd say it implies it's the kid's mother 🤔

[cold vessel]

We have the "sitzen"/"setzen" and "liegen/legen" distinction in Norwegian too, so I'll hopefully never confuse those 😄

[thick charm]

Grammatically, it doesn't. You'd use 'seiner Mutter' to make it 100% clear

but a kid wouldn't sit in another mother's car.

[shy bobcat]

Liegen and legen are distinguished in English too :p

Lie lay

[cold vessel]

@shy bobcat Yes but in ENglish the spelling is so weird that it's impossible to remember the difference

[sudden panther]

Man. Kels got an American to come to Vienna. 😦 Now I have to get Base to come to beat your distance record.

[shy bobcat]

past tense of lie is lay how hard could that be

[hot cloak]

yh seems easier than sitzen/setzen tbh

only 1 vowel change... with the rest the same...

🤔

[ocean robin]

Okay so I am backie. So it's *sitzt.

[sudden panther]

Wow Flops, you suck.

[ocean robin]

Wow thanks Arrem.

[sudden panther]

But you have a perfectly understandable accent. You should be proud of that.

[ocean robin]

I know right, thanks again. ❤

[sudden panther]

Now what's your sentence?

[ocean robin]

"Das Kind sitzt im Auto der Mutter."

[sudden panther]

Orrible. What's wrong with it?

[ocean robin]

IDK.

[sudden panther]

Really?

[hot cloak]

nothing

next sentence

[sudden panther]

BOTTO NO

[shy bobcat]

Arrem stop being a meme

[ocean robin]

YOU MEME.

[sudden panther]

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE HER DOUBT EVERYTHING SHE KNOWS

[ocean robin]

WHAT

[hot cloak]

meh that doesnt help though

[sudden panther]

😦

Fiiiine.

[hot cloak]

:^(

[shy bobcat]

[ocean robin]

IS THAT SUPPOSED TO RAISE MY SELF-ESTEEM

[cold vessel]

To raise your self-esteem, we first have to crush it

[ocean robin]

Wow rude.

[cold vessel]

That's how it works, right? 🤔

[ocean robin]

solet's way

[sudden panther]

ich glaube, dass 0x1 hat zu sein bestafen mit schlechten Grammatiks

[dire sentinel]

I wonder if I should like, buy houses and flip them

someday

[pine ginkgo]

i don't think there's anything to crush for flappsy

[shy bobcat]

bestafen

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

since i have yet to so see some

[ocean robin]

JESUS CHRIST ARREM IS IN VC UNMUTED

I MUST COME

[shy bobcat]

yes IK that it's a meme sentence but

@sudden panther what does bestafen mean

[sudden panther]

It's like bestrafen but with less r's.

[shy bobcat]

[sudden panther]

Having fun in there Flops?

[ocean robin]

Yes?

[cold vessel]

Now you've gone and distracted her again

[shy bobcat]

t r a n $ l a 8 e r o o n i s por favor 😩

[dire sentinel]

"I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world Life in plastic, it's fantastic You can brush my hair, undress me everywhere Imagination, life is your creation"

[ocean robin]

LOL WHAT

[dire sentinel]

Come on Barbie let's go party

[pine ginkgo]

is there anything in the world

that flopsy doesn't LOL WHAT as a reaction

[ocean robin]

🤔

Good question

[nocturne spruce]

Sad movies

Probably the only thing

[dire sentinel]

lol what

Jack, there's a boat

[mortal hound]

Tag

[shy bobcat]

Ich bin ein Barbie-Mädchen in einer Barbie-Welt Das Leben aus Kunststoff ist erstaunlich Du kannst mir die Haare bürsten und mich überall ausziehen Die Vorbildung, das Leben ist deine Erstellung

Komm schon, Barbie, gehen wir feiern

@dire sentinel I'm now seriously questioning why I did this, but I already did it and not posting it would be a waste.

[pine ginkgo]

Vorbildung

rofl

teeeis

übersetze

I imagine this

[shy bobcat]

"Ich stelle das mir vor"

Vorstellung

[pine ginkgo]

übersetze

Imagination

[shy bobcat]

die Vorstellung

[pine ginkgo]

VORBILDUNG

YOU FUCK LOL

[shy bobcat]

ja ich weiß

[pine ginkgo]

wie :o

[shy bobcat]

my brain been draw a blank

😓

[pine ginkgo]

D:

armes putput

lern deutsch 😦

[cold vessel]

I love it when luna is correcting someone else

[hot oriole]

Vorbildung stell ich mir so als Bildung vor der eigentlichen schulischen Bildung vor. Also Kindergarten?

[shy bobcat]

liebes gehirn,
bitte vergiss die wörter nicht, sonst werden wir beide dumm aussehen. danke!
-Eisteeeislein

[pine ginkgo]

gute einstellung :D

[shy bobcat]

tee-eeis
ups

[ocean robin]

Anyone up for translating game or exercises here?

[opal sequoia]

Maybe.

What lesson did you get up to?

[ocean robin]

We didn't have structured grammar lessons yet.

[opal sequoia]

What do you mean?

Weren't you focussing on specific topics?

[ocean robin]

We were but on a vocabulary term. Like here we are just presenting families and saying who they are; it's oral expression.

[opal sequoia]

I don't really get what you mean. What were the last sentences you were translating in here?

Or, what kind of things do you want to translate now?

[ocean robin]

🤔

Ah, but I thought that you asked ehat I was doing at school!

Uuuh here. The last thing we did was cases.

[opal sequoia]

Oh. 😄

Sorry about that.

Cases... hmm...

Can you help me? I can't find my dog. I think he ran away. I'll show you a photo of him so that you know what he looks like.

Try to translate that, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Kannst du mir helfen? Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden. Ich denke, das er wegrannte. Ich werde ein Foto von ihm vorführen, dass du weißt, wie he aussieht."
AGH I AM EVEN NOT SURE.

[opal sequoia]

Why aren't you sure? Which parts are you worried about?

[ocean robin]

The last part "ich werde [...] vorführen"

Dunno, it looks... uh.

[hot oriole]

he is english 😕

[opal sequoia]

Okay, let's look at each sentence individually.

atlas. 😄

[ocean robin]

Sure thingy.

[opal sequoia]

I didn't even see that.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Okay: kannst du mir helfen?

What do you think of this one?

[hot oriole]

the position of nicht in the 2nd sentence is wrong

[ocean robin]

Well, it's jdm helfen, so uuuh.

AGH NICHT AGAIN.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, atlas, but I'm trying to help Flappy learn to diagnose her own mistakes too.

Because she depends too much on other people telling her what's wrong instead of understanding it herself.

Don't be so flustered though, Flappy. If you know the rules, then you know the rules.

So does your first sentence follow all the rules you know?

[ocean robin]

Well, that helfen is a verb which is followed with dative?

[lavish saddle]

Ohh, base is the bully now 😄

[ocean robin]

lel

[opal sequoia]

Yes, Flappy.

[lavish saddle]

😄 is your first sentence completely correct then?

[ocean robin]

Now did I pick the right pronoun? 👀

Yeah, mir.

Then yeah, it's right.

[lavish saddle]

yes :3

[opal sequoia]

Okay, how would you write it if you were talking to a group of people instead of one?

Just as a test.

If you can't do it easily, don't worry. I was B before I could even remember how to do 2nd person plural. 😄

And I still mess it up.

[ocean robin]

Ah, so waito, I must rewrite the sentnece with using ihr?

[sudden panther]

Flops can't even flop properly.

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

as expected

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Könnt ihr mir helfen? Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden. Ich denke, das er wegrannte. Ich werde ein Foto von ihm vorführen, dass ihr wisst, wie he aussieht.

[sudden panther]

Orrible.

Especially the fact that you literally used "he".

[opal sequoia]

Oh, I just meant the first sentence.

[pine ginkgo]

vorführen

eheheheheheehehe

[opal sequoia]

Anyway, now let's look at the second sentence.

Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden.

[shy bobcat]

oh, what's this uspposed to say

[sudden panther]

Guide to flopping

1. type word into dcc
2. pick the very last result
3. flop

[opal sequoia]

Can you help me? I can't find my dog. I think he ran away. I'll show you a photo of him so that you know what he looks like.

[shy bobcat]

ok

[pine ginkgo]

4. write the word very differently

5. frenchify the word

6. flop again

[ocean robin]

@sudden panther thta was the fokken first word.

[shy bobcat]

yeah, if you only go up to 3) you'll just get "Ari a few months ago"

tbh

Pronomen nachlassen 👀

[sudden panther]

You're not doing it right then. 😛

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

Flappy? Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden.

[sudden panther]

Looking for the correct thing also gives you the correct thing as the first result. Which I won't reveal now. Enough flopping off. Do what Base says.

[shy bobcat]

how about you just make flaps look the weird words she chose up in the dictionary back to english @sudden panther that ought to illustrate

[ocean robin]

Y-you mean that nicht js agch ugh.

[sudden panther]

Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden, sondern...

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin nicht-Stellung

[ocean robin]

Sondern?

[opal sequoia]

Does the sentence follow the rules that you know, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

I am still not sure about that nicht...

[sudden panther]

Sondern we don't know. You imply that you could find something else, but didn't tell us what. 😛

[opal sequoia]

Where do you put the nicht if you want to negate a specific thing inside the sentence?

[ocean robin]

Does I don't find the dog or I don't find the dog?

🤔

[opal sequoia]

Like when you say "I don't like the blue, but I like the red."

[pine ginkgo]

WELTORDNUNG

[ocean robin]

WHAT

[opal sequoia]

You have to tell me what it means, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Uh oh.

[sudden panther]

Put some nouns in there Base. Flops can't substantivize yet.

[opal sequoia]

Sorry. 😄

"I don't like the blue car, but I like the red car."

[pine ginkgo]

stop getting distracted, flaps

[sudden panther]

Nicht ich nicht mag nicht das nicht rote nicht Auto nicht.

[pine ginkgo]

arrem

are you sure you don't want to spend your first night in vienna

[shy bobcat]

arrem

[pine ginkgo]

with something else

:D

[opal sequoia]

At least one of those nichts is correct.

[ocean robin]

Ich mag nicht das blaue Auto, aber ich mag das rote Auto. hoppng she didn't floppzed on declension

[sudden panther]

Eh, I'm having my late dinner. Then I'll take a nice shower. And sleep. In Vienna. Awyiss.
Flops is just a thing to keep me entertained for a while. 😛

[ocean robin]

LOL

[opal sequoia]

Okay, so where do you put the nicht for that, Flappy?

[sudden panther]

"LOL" said Flops, completely ignoring her horribly wrong sentence.

[ocean robin]

Wow.

[pine ginkgo]

i gonna bet

flappsy gonna learn this

[ocean robin]

oh bets

[pine ginkgo]

before the century ends

since she will one day

not forget this after one day of teaching her

[ocean robin]

what is he takling about

Declensions?

[pine ginkgo]

the position of nicht.

[opal sequoia]

We're talking about the position of nicht here.

[ocean robin]

Or the nicht placement?

YEAAAAAH.

[opal sequoia]

Don't worry about what Arrem said. Only think about what rules you know.

Where does nicht go if you want to negate one part of the sentence? And where does it go if you want to negate the whole sentence?

Just tell me that much.

[ocean robin]

AH. I GET THE POINT.

If you want to negate a part of a sentence, then -> nicht is before that part.

If you want to negate all the clause -> nicht is the last word.

[shy bobcat]

In general.

[opal sequoia]

Yep.

[shy bobcat]

😄

[opal sequoia]

So what do you think of Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden?

[ocean robin]

'Orrible.

[sudden panther]

So how long will Flops take to forget what she just said? Place your bets.

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

next month

[dire sentinel]

To the cat Cafe

[opal sequoia]

Drill it into your brain, Flappy. Write it on a piece of paper while you're sitting in class.

[ocean robin]

Already did @_@

That way I also learnt my prepositions

[opal sequoia]

The quicker we go through these sentences, the sooner you can translate another one, Flappy!

So quickly, what's the sentence?

[ocean robin]

And THEY were actually drilled in 1 day 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

feel free to consult your written notes

before you post your translations

[sudden panther]

people thinking they know their prepositions
Cute.

[ocean robin]

AH AH AHHHH.

[pine ginkgo]

And THEY were actually drilled in 1 day
and drilled out after 2 days

[opal sequoia]

Don't think about it, Flappy. Just write it right now, straight away!

[hot cloak]

Ich kann nicht meinen Hund finden? XD literally Dutch and English thrown together

[clear pebble]

First day in German class just ended. Is there something I absolutely absolutely absolutetly should do right away?

[pine ginkgo]

sleep?

[ocean robin]

Ich kann meinen Hund finden nicht.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, Newbie. Always learn the gender of nouns when you learn nouns. That's the one newbie rule.

[pine ginkgo]

i think sleeping is a good thing to do

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin 😓

[ocean robin]

[clear pebble]

Nope, SoletLuna. I'll get bitten by bugs and get itchy.

[ocean robin]

Nicht finden? 🤔

[shy bobcat]

where do infinitives go, like 99 percent of the time

[clear pebble]

Might as well get something done.

[ocean robin]

UGH.

[shy bobcat]

Ich kann meinen Hund nicht finden. Yes.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, don't forget your verb rules, Flappy. Verb rules are the most important rules of all.

[shy bobcat]

Write it 100 times. @ocean robin

[sudden panther]

There close I myself to you on.

[hot cloak]

Verbs just go to the end because we can't have our way 😦

English verb order is so much better

[clear pebble]

I can my hound not find?

[opal sequoia]

So anyway, what do you think of the sentence now, Flappy? Ich kann meinen Hund nicht finden.

[ocean robin]

When you are too popular ™

[opal sequoia]

😄

[pine ginkgo]

stop getting distracted

flaps

[hot cloak]

MLP server?

[sudden panther]

PINK HORSE

[ocean robin]

nope.

[shy bobcat]

@ocean robin don't worry I just pinged you to say something nice 😉

[quasi merlin]

If you want to negate all the clause -> nicht is the last word.

Oh, you already figured out this is wrong.

[ocean robin]

LOL