#general-2
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Finding the official translation took longer than I thought.
@red pewter thus is like "therefore" I think
mit ist immer mit Dativ. Kannst du dir merken.
Consequently, with a kiss, I die.
The German translation took some liberties, to say the least.
:/
Deine Tränke würken gut - - Noch diesen Kuß.
😒
Jep. 👀
yeah I'd have to translate that one. google says deshalb
Deshalb sterbe ich mit einem Kuss
"würken"?
that's my attempt at actually translating it
let me add these words to anki
würken?
well
thous and thees and prithys
that's basically shakespeare speak
^
yes
not really an indicator of what other olden poets wrote
Moving on: To be, or not to be, that is the question: [...].
but just shakespeare
okay....to be means in this case to live, ja?
i think the actual translation just uses "to be"
well, it's german equivalent but shhhhh 😏
^^
Leben oder Leben nicht....das ist die Frage
It's to be (exist) in a more literal sense.
^
😛
jetzt bin ich gespannt
Sein, oder Nichtsein, das ist hier die Frage: [...].
Nichtsein
nicht sein is close enough too, though. ^^
why all togethe
das Nichtsein
^
"Existence or nonexistence" essentially
i had no idea that was what sein meant jfc
Seinsein.
when you translate something that already has a translation and the natives tear into you for not getting the exact same translation 😩 
i've seen this word and i thought it was a functional word
well, sein is also "his" and "its"
but there's no place where those two could be confused
But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?
It is the east, and Juliet is the sun.
^^
Enjoy.
i thought that was what ihr was for
are you trying to kill me
Gentle.
"ihr" is "her" and "their"
ok, this is not gonna be Schäkespeere phrasing, in fact it will be very ugly
Diese Juliet ist echt beautiful vong prettigkeit her, Alter
Modern day Shakespeare would have been fun.
😄
"Aber sanft, welches Licht bricht durch jenes Fenster? Es ist das Osten, und Juliet ist die Sonne"?
Again, sorry very very sorry for not-very-Shakesperian translation of Shakespeare
😅
I like mine better.
das Osten
Gets straight to the point instead of bantering about this whole sun thing.
🤔
what's Shäkespeere's official translation 
bad teeeis
😦
you get a minus point
Aber Stille, was Licht durch Ihren Fenster? Es ist der Osten, und Juliet ist die Sonne
Closer to the official translation, but not quite.
Aber stille! was für ein Licht bricht aus jenem Fenster hervor?
Es ist der Osten, und Juliet ist die Sonne
@pine ginkgo word genders I still mischen up a bit lel
Juliet ist heiß wie die Sonne. <- my translatioatn.
i had it in my head for the better part of 2 years that it was Das Witz (I figured it out)
i've been learning german for less than a month
but you just flirted!
"She's at least a 9, Mercutio." - Romeo, probably.
:P
Go Base.
difference between saying was für ein and welch--?
Luna ist heiß wie die Sol.
this is good, I'm getting all kinds of Anki words
Soliet.
I wanna buy memes.
hir verkaufem wir k1e maimais tut mir leit
Schade
"Oh Romeo, why are you Romeo? I'd much prefer to marry Memer McMemeington. Then my stupid ass dad would have to call me Ms. McMemeington and that would meme him up because he hates memes just as much as he hates ur guts loool."
Go.
Better.
Good question. I'm not that good at swearing.
1. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
2. Is this a dagger which I see before me?
3. A horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse!
Go!
^^
Oh Romeo warum heißt du diesen Scheißname? Ich werde lieber mit Memer verheiraten sein. Denn wird mein Scheißvater auch mich Ms Memeington nennen müssen.
Was für ein Meme ist das?
Solet would literally murder you for that denn if he were here.
"O Romeo, warum biste Romeo? Ich würde viel lieber Memer von Memington heiraten. Dann hätte mein blöder Vater mich Frau von Memington nennen müssen, und das würde ihn vermemen, weil er Memes hasst, genauso wie er dich abgr&tief hasst lool"
Aye. Denn is a conjunction.
Ach Romeo, warum bist du Romeo? I würde bevorzugen heiraten Memer McMemeington. Dann meinem blӧdem Vater würde heiẞen Frau McMemeington und das würde meme sein denn er hasst memes wie er dich hasst looool.
"Oh Romeo, warum bist du Romeo? Ich würde es eher bevorzugen Memer McMemeington zu heiraten. Dann müsste mein dummer Scheiß-Vater mich Ms. McMemeington nennen und das würde ihn ärgern, denn er hasst Memes genauso sehr wie deine Visage."
deine Visage
lovyer mika
^
JUST GIVE ME A REGULAR ONE AND I'LL SAVE IT
ß.
I WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRANSLATE YOUR MEMES
Künstlerische Freiheit :>
so how shite is my attempt at translating his maimaiation
Brilliant.
Mein is no good?
warum biste Romeo?
"bist du" please. 😛
It's brilliant in a Casca sense.
You both did hätte nennen müssen.
Wieso bischt Romeo?
also, how is "arrem" pronounced, I just realised I have no idea whether it's "air-em" or "are-em"
Weiß nett, wor me' Vadda.
Which is a bit eh. Müsste nennen is bettererer.
I didn't write that.
Oh. Then I read Arizona's sentence twice.
It sounds out of place.
Enjoy some vague somewhat far off "official" translations:
1. Die Dame, wie mich dünkt, gelobt zu viel.
2. Ist dies ein Dolch, was ich da vor mir sehe, den Griff mir zugewendet?
3. Ein Pferd! Ein Pferd! Mein Königreich für ein Pferd!
hmm
Wird nennen müssen is okay as well.
what were the originals again @fair iron
Most A1 students: "Say 'I walked the dog'" Me: "Translate Shakespeare and memes"
Wow, it's okay? 😮
1. The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
2. Is this a dagger which I see before me?
3. A horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse!
1. Die Dame, wie mich dünkt, gelobt zu viel.
2. Ist dies ein Dolch, was ich da vor mir sehe, den Griff mir zugewendet?
3. Ein Pferd! Ein Pferd! Mein Königreich für ein Pferd!
Why is müsste preferred, specifically?
To be completely accurate, Friedrich Schiller's translation was: [...] *Den Griff mir zugewendet?, which I find odd.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Oh Romeo warum heißt du diesen Scheißname sounds a bit off. You could replace heißt with trägst. And don't forget the -n declension. 😉
The capitalization, Casca?
Maybe it is written on a new line or something like that?
Oh yeah. Thank you Arrem.
Ah, I mean like, in a poem format.
hmm
Preceded by a comma.
Yes, but new line?
Sleep well.
I'm confused.
It's not in a new line, but in poem format, which means it's in a new line.
NEW LINE
And thanks actually for the correction. I was sort of intentionally not thinking about what I was writing, just being silly a bit, sorry about that. 😄
ok, so it is on a new line
The Google search result(s) showed it on one line.

Not my fault. 😦
😦
It's okay.
^^
Okay I'm going back to learning lessons within my scope of understanding
anyway
turn that frown upside down!
:(
):
Thank you for the fun ❤
the transl8erooni must go on
Blame Google for not formatting better.
@thick charm you have the right idea lel
I know, I'm the best.
Anytime, cbell.

Flappy flopped away as usual.
Fläppers is sleeping.
Anyway I can't find the exact question but base asked about the müsste.
Hätte machen müssen is a past conditional, and what we need is a regular one. Thus, we chose müsste machen instead.
Had to have to do it vs had to do it?
Oh.
though wasn't the original "then my dumb dad would have to call me" 🤔
Hätte vs hatte?
oh I see it
I didn't learn those yet.
"müsste" => "would have to", Konjunktiv II
my brain is a bit fried today
Ello
le
Makes sense.
And what is it with the wird müssen nennen?
😦
"would have had to do it"
vs "had would have to do it"
"wird müssen" - "will have to"
@viscid cape have a cookie as compensation
Okay, makes sense.
wird nennen müssen though. 😄
Oh.
Du musst es so nennen.
Then we throw in a wird and it pushes the müssen to the end.
Yeah, I was thinking of the infinitive being written in the other order, for no real reason.
next sentence, let's translate something with already horrific grammar so our mistakes don't show up as clearly because of all the other ones 
The real fun starts when you throw in
hätte machen müssen vs müsste gemacht haben 
"Ich hätte das machen müssen, aber ich war zu faul."
"Aber mein Kollege müsste das gemacht haben ..."
Mika müsste das gemacht haben, er ist doch nicht so faul, sagte der Kollege und war eher enttäuscht.
Would have needed to do vs had to have done?
Mika's first sentence says that he should have done that, but he didn't.
Mika's second sentence is an assumption that his colleague did it.
And mine is his colleague's [false] assumption that Mika actually did it.
Wow, cool.
That's pretty cool indeed
rip
2x cool
1x rip
rip mika
Let's do it in our own sentences.
Arizona müsste meinen Tee getrunken haben... Meine Tasse ist leer.
Wow I reacted to my own sentence
DER WIXXER!
👀
Arrem hätte unsere Übersetzungen lesen müssen, aber er könnte die nicht leiden.
Demoted to A0.
Was meinst du? 👀
*konnte sie
Nah
Wait
I think
You can keep the "könnte"
Depending on meaning
konnte sounds more natural though oder
It's meant to be that he would not be able to if he did it, hence he doesn't do it.
Quiz time: Dammit Base, you should have know that!
No, the sentence says he wouldn't have had to do it
"er könnte sie nicht leiden" - "he wouldn't like them"
Yeah.
I mean that he wouldn't be able to stand it, not that we wouldn't be able.
@opal sequoia Do your quiz and quit Fläpping
Oi. Memelords. The first one to translate You should have known that, Base gets a cookie.
Darf ich mitmachen? 😛
Nö.
😡
Warum nicht? :'(
Das hättest du wissen sollen, Base
weil du 1 kluger 🍪 bimst ❤
You get two cookies for calling him Basement. 🍪 🍪
I don't know why but müssen sounded good to me lul
Müssen is a bit stronger I guess.
Yeah it's like you would have had to know that! >:v
You would must know that.
You were supposed to
Yeah
ok yeah
Had to go away for a while, did I miss any funny floppyisms?
naw
Flopper is ded.
We're Flopperising Base instead
flops ist weggefloppt 😦
müssen in Konjunktiv II can work like "should"
Oh god, konjunktiv
konjunktiv 😍
Wait
See, I was right all along... even though I didn't know.
kryptik just bullshits his way through all of german 
I need to get fläpperisiert a bit
That's the secret. We all do.
I'm feeling too confident today
Hmmm.
go 🌝 on the next round of transl8eroonis 
Arrem should have been working on his fokken presentation, but he decided to meme here instead.
What is the presentation?
The
one.
Oh yeah.
Arrem hätte an seinem Vortrag arbeiten sollen, aber er hat sich stattdessen dafür entschieden, hier zu memen.
🤔
Nou, it's an actual presentation. With slides and powerpoint memes.
Powerpoint memes lol
I don't know the difference between referat and vortrag to be honest
I was about to ask that 😅
This is one for you, Kyriptip and Arizona: "By the time I'm finished with my work, I will have become hungry."
Hm. I'll let Mika take this one because I had no idea that a Referat can also be mündlich. I've mostly associated it with a written piece about something until now.
Might be right, I really don't know. 😅
idk how to say "by the time"specifically
Wenn lol
Wenn ich mit meiner Arbeit fertig bin, werde ich hungrig geworden sein
That sounds wrong
yeah I was gonna say "just use wenn? or is there a phrase"
p.s. I stole it from the current #questions discussion.
Maybe there's a prettier way of saying it
The difference between "Referat" and "Vortrag" ... err, I guess ... you don't call it a "Referat" in uni, do you?
@sudden panther
I basically got what kryptik did
No, we most certainly don't. 😅
But yeah, we stole that word, and we only use it for written things.
Interezting
Really?
@opal sequoia You gotta give the answer, mate
A "Referat" is like mündlich with Powerpoint for me.
I don't know it. 😮
@quasi merlin Arrem thinks the opposite no?
Ye, but Arrem lives 800 km away from me.
Arremians.
anyway, me and kryptik both got "Wenn ich mit meiner Arbeit fertig bin, werde ich hungrig geworden sein." for that sentence base gave
So the usage of terms differs.
I see, I'll just use then as synonyms then 😂
Just remember not to use Referat in uni
Bis ich meiner Arbeit fertig bin, werde ich Hunger haben.
No, not Austrians, sorry. The Bosnians stole that word and use it exclusively for written things. 😛
That is slightly different in meaning, isn't it?
In place of nach?
Nah, not after "bis"
Chuck answered at #questions
Bis ich mit meiner Arbeit fertig bin, werde ich Hunger bekommen haben.
Yep
Dankee.
can you say "hungrig werden" 'stead of "Hunger bekommen"
I'd remove the "bekommen", maybe
Wait
No, maybe we need the "bekommen".
I confused myself.
'gehabt haben'
@quasi merlin hungrig werden, Hunger bekommen?
"Ich werde hungrig geworden sein."
"Ich werde Hunger bekommen haben."
aye
@ancient spade you said you were also worried about vestibulares
are you doing em this year?
No
oh have you done them already?
ach so
ooooh shiit
Yeah
good fucking luck
Exactly
you're crazy
3rd time I'm trying
I hope so haha
I have a friend studying to that aswell
he's fucking nuts
my goal is either USP or UNICAMP 😃
Woah, that's pretty hard too
Good luck with that
I should be studying right now tbh
Cool to know someone that's also fucked this year
did you know they got books now?
they added books to the test
omg I hate literature
Physics is just crazy
yea I've seen it
if you do get approved though, you'll be basically in the best of the best
but you'll be fucked again
I've heard of people who didn't survive there
Electronics engineering
äh we're close I guess
I want Computer Science, IME-USP 😄
I think I have good chances
biggest problems: geography, history, literature portuguese questions
so basically 2nd phase, day 2
Lol
are you trying IME, AFA aswell?
Luckly I don't haveto worry about that
other military institutions
Yeah, I'm trying ime
First phase is next month
I'm not sure if I can make it though
Yeah
it depends on how hard you practice tbh
I mean, they're about the same level
cause even though it's really fucking hard, it's got a pattern
Lol
Yeah
it'll be worth it...
oh nice what did you do
Electrical engineering
I see
I had a pretty crappy/ok education until high school
and then my parents started working their asses off to pay me a good high school
and with good teachers and good math teaching
comes love for math
Sure thing
so I guess we're kind similar
although I don't really trust myself to ITA
and I don't want shit to do with the military
so I'll just stick to the other good unis haha
yea you can choose to not get involved I guess
but ppl say you dont get the same benefits
like the wage
Yes, but you still have to serve one year
❤
Basic training and all
fucking hell
2018 is the year I'll do the alistamento (idk how to say that in english)
i'm scared
aaaaaa
Don't worry
There are enough volunteers so you won't be forced if you don't want it
You mean the one every one gets naked
Lol
cause no one wants a soldier that's like that
Cut a leg off.
Or an arm. You definitely can't shoot people with only one arm. 🤔
You can use a pistol
we don't shoot people, we're brazilians, we play soccer whoever wins, wins the war
Ivan disagrees.
Just say you have Magenschmerzen. They'll think it's one of those super exotic illnesses.
But in Brazil, soldiers use hoes to clean the battlefield instead
Ich nix verstehen Brasiliano
AHAHAHAHAH
Lol
I love this meme.
that's a great meme macaco
macaco we have to chat someday
about physics
calculus
and fucking brazil
Hahha yes we do
I'm usually here at night
And I gotta study some physics
I'm just procrastinating tbh
Yeah, on weekends
I always have simulados (simulated tests, fuck translating brazilians things) on mondays
but I have none today
so it's procastinating day
Yeah lol
I'm just tired of spending all day at home, alone, studying
For years
That's pretty depressing tbh
Not really haha
Yes, that's what makes it so good right? High standards allow only for the best to succeed
well
but it doesn't really reflect the best
like there are tons of ppl that have really cool talents but can't be sucessful because only a few things are valorized you know
like I have this friend who's a fucking genius for everything
but he wants to do History
so basically = 0 money
I see what you mean
I actually considered being a math teacher
but then I thought: I like computer stuff and math teaching equals poor
so Computer Science
🤷
But dude
I don't intend on studying my entire life only to teach
but maybe I'll change my mind, idk
It's the first thing that came to my mind haha
also the other thing that's dumb in the system
you gotta choose so early
like most of my friends know they like math/physics/chemistry more than biology/geography/history/portuguese/etc
but they don't know what field they want
"what engineering"
and you gotta choose when you're fucking 17
I chose when I was 15 lol
Yeah, I understand
but there are sooooo many people trying doctor's school for years and then, after years of struggle and failing, change their minds
my dad has a friend that did a cursinho for 10 years..
imagine if that guy didn't like it after getting in
suicide material
Yea, it's crazy
It was really nice talking to you again man, but I have to go now haha
Sure
also we spammed the hell outta this channel
and no one probably knows what we're talking about
anyways, thanks so much
Hahaha just another day at the office
@viscid cape knows for sure
It was a pleasure
See you on the top of the world
@ancient spade Yo no hablo su lingua. 
spanish D=
kyptikosis where are you from?
now I'm curious that he said that you know for sure what we were talking about
Yo soy della Illa della Santa Cruz
Lol I'm back
Solamente MacacoVerde sabe, donde fica la illa.
am I supposed to know that? Macaco?
well geography isn't my strongest suit
my guess is california
but he speaks spanish
Should I tell him, @viscid cape ?
Puedes confiar-lo? 
it's not Brazil, it can't be, I've never seen him speaking portuguese in this discord
Hahhaahaha
Si, =c
Who did you talk to in #other-languages a couple days ago?
In Portuguese
Aside from me
Fulano
Rekt.
So Kryptik speaks Portuguese?
Yes
okay so we have about 5 options then
That should give you a hint
Portugal, Brazil, Moçambique, São Tomé e Príncipe, Macau
I don't remember, there's more
it's very unlikely to be Moçambique or São Tomé
Macau aswell
So Portugal
or Brazilian
Fifty-fifty
Estou a pensar o que este mancebo está a falar.
it's in a peninsula
Hahhah
MANCEBO HAHAHA
You nailed it
I mean
I like portuguese from portugal, it's very fancy
I was referring to his enactment of a Portuguese accent
When I said you nailed it
Omnom
What are broas?
São pãesh d'minh terra.
HAHAHA
Lol
😂
kkkkkk.
Hashauahushuahus
Lol
It was Macaco's idea
🙊
is this a huge troll
I'm from São Paulo 👌
Exactly
oh is it?
"Spanish" though lol
"da"
Yeah lol
Portuñol at it's finest
I've never gotten proper spanish education anyway

did you know that são paulo's actual name was Sao Paulo de Piratininga
Me neither
DUMB HISTORY FACTS
Really?
yea
No, I didn't
Cool
Yes
Thank inclusão digital for that
... We want a duel first. ⚽
Whoooaaa
;)
Rekt. 
Actually that was the nicest day I had had in a while.
It was priceless to listen to the game's narration.
😂
BRA71L
Yeah hahah
Lol
I went to the bathroom and when I was back they scored like 3 goals or something
Yeah
I still don't give a crap about soccer
"I earn only 200,000 euros. 😿 I just wanted to make my people have a good time."
Mimimi
Well, we are 2 guys talking through discord about ITA and math and calculus
the one thing you expect
And I don't have time to keep up with the games
to suck at sports
I suck at life tbh
sedentary at its best
Lol
I did get sedentary in 2 grade in high school
what a pathetic thing to say
Later I made a diet and lost 27 kilos
Hahha that's awesome
If you start working out, eating right and sleeping well, you're gonna get swole in no time
I'll die, but I'll die happy, eating something really good
Lol
fuck working out
I'm a fit nerd
I listen to German audios when I work out
does it help you?
you're doing an exercise
this guy yelling
SCHMETTERLING
FLUGZEUG
Hahhahah
Which is not what I'm doing right now lol
but I gotta read stupid books by stupid genius brazilian writers like Machado de Assis
dont get me wrong
guys a fucking genius
but fuck it's boring
Haha I understand
last friday I went to saraiva
saw those cool german books
and felt like: feelsbadman I can't, I gotta focus on the task at hand
Like social life
Hahah my friends are a bunch of nerds too
yup, same
We get together every solar eclipse
omg not to that level
but we're all interested on talking about linear algebra
and how the brazilian education system fails and it would be really cool to learn integrals on high school
That's awesome
and crazy theorems
I'm the only one who liked math and physics at my classroom
The only one who wanted engineering lol
well as I said I'm in a really good school now so it's good to have like a class that's basically everyone nerds
also it's weird cause everyone has so much money
like I have the discount ya know
idk how you call that in english
scholarship?
A backpack lol
ahhahaha
Yeah, it's scholarship I think
Or purse
haha
Purse of studies
hjgriuehgreq
Sounds accurate
totally
we're saying that but there're always people that like translating stuff that way
LOL legend
Yeah hahaha
btw what happened to: I gotta study?
Lol
did you just start studying and realized how great I am at chatting
and came back to your senpai?
yes or sure
FeelsBadderino
woo
I'm soaked right now
well I tried geography but then I started studying the Dominios Morfoclimaticos
and I almost puked from the total of boring this is
like geography teachers are the real heroes
But I had a really good teacher back then
cause man you really gotta love this
yea I always get the questions about that kinda stuff wrong
Props to all of those who like it
like there was one I did
there was this map of BR with a bunch of stuff on it
you had to complete the Legenda
subtitles
Aaah
I got almost everything wrong
Hahaha
haha
Where everything happens
we're i m p o r t a n t, okay?
Hahhaah
Brazilian New York
Hey
We have Nova Iorque here in Maranhão
Mine is really rusty
Hahhaha not really
change your nickname, no one will ever know where you're from, trust me
if ppl thought I was from europe by my accent
imagine you
Ugh I was gonna explain wo+prep questions today, but that requires me to get up. While I'm fighting the urge to never leave my bed for the rest of my life, you can go to gen2 and translate these.
What are you thinking of?
What are you looking for?
What are you working on?
Putting exercise here.
Maybe also consider putting your solutions there. 👌
So I think that:
- Wovon denkst du?
- Wofür suscht du?
- Woran arbeitest du?

jesus whai.
Preposition aren't 1:1.
33%. 
You actually have to find the correct one for the verb you want.
Dammit.
Just because it's for in English, doesn't mean it's für in German.

ah, prepositions
Out of the kindness of your hearts, will someone please bestow onto me a sentence?
Natürlich, eure erlauchte Hoheit.
❤