general-2

[pine ginkgo]

translate it, because you think you know this is the way

[ocean robin]

yes but it came to my mind first and I was like "whai dative there" and then gave up

[thick charm]

Adding Dativ here technically could be pulled off, though. It would just sound weird.

[ocean robin]

Oh so it's right and wrong.

lol okay

[thick charm]

It's more wrong than right

[ocean robin]

Good thing I didn't do so then

[thick charm]

I should add that it would sound weird without context.

I can explain it once we're done with the sentence

[ocean robin]

oki dokie so let's see once again

"Krypto will, dass Flappy ein paar von Sätze zu übersetzen, obwohl er keine Hilfe nicht liefert"
Those negations make me so skeptical 🤔

Wait what.

[pine ginkgo]

no

[ocean robin]

Phone stop.

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy

tell me all the subjects

[thick charm]

We're slowly inching closer.

[ocean robin]

subjects of which clause?

[pine ginkgo]

any

[thick charm]

the subjects of the sentence

[ocean robin]

Ah, okay

[thick charm]

there are two

[ocean robin]

So Krypti and Flappy?

[thick charm]

three, actually. nvm

[pine ginkgo]

okay

[thick charm]

I'm blind

[ocean robin]

what

[pine ginkgo]

read your first subordinate clause again, flappsy

[ocean robin]

Er is Krypto as well

[pine ginkgo]

now with this information

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

do you notice something

[thick charm]

Yeah okay it's either two or three

you're right

depending on how you wanna count

[ocean robin]

ummm wat is wrong with thjs clause hmm

[pine ginkgo]

okay try this

write the simplest complete sentence in german

that you can

[ocean robin]

Whoa what.

[thick charm]

Just any sentence

[ocean robin]

What could it be. 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

just write it

dont think

just write one sentence

[ocean robin]

just lemme think of a sentence that i could do without mistakes and that have a subordinate clause

[pine ginkgo]

no

flappsy

simple

just a simple sentence

dont think

[thick charm]

Subjekt, Prädikat, Objekt.

[pine ginkgo]

stop overthinking

[sudden panther]

Mmmm sentence memes.

[ocean robin]

AH JUST LIKE "ich bin Flappy und ich bin 14" 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[ocean robin]

what.

[pine ginkgo]

now look at your subordinate clause again

good job

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy

when you look at a sentence

do you analyze it?

look at what case they are, what tense, what kind of verbs they are?

[ocean robin]

wooo, no conjugated verb? But in the translation it's like...

where is the translation again

but the verb must come in the end, and since it's infinitive

[thick charm]

What makes you think it's infinitive here?

[ocean robin]

"sentences to translate"

I think, wait that I have the whole translation again

like Krypti wants Flapssy to translate some sentences, although he doesn't provide any assistance.

[thick charm]

Okay, let's dissect this thing slowly.

The "to" part of "he wants her to do something" we've already got covered by the "dass"

That's why that is there, that's why it's a subordinate clause in the first place.

[sudden panther]

I'd highly suggest parsing it as he wants that she does something in your mind. That way it's quite obvious that you don't need a "to".

[ocean robin]

AH.

Oh my god seeing a Flops writing is like seeing myself writing.

[thick charm]

Yeah it's confusing, right?

Flops, Erin

[sudden panther]

Unsettling, isn't it.

[thick charm]

It's like they cloned you

[hot cloak]

Yep

[ocean robin]

Yeah god lmao

Anyway let's see.

I should conjugate "übersetzen"then?

[thick charm]

You should

[pine ginkgo]

why would you need an infitive?

what is the reason for an infitive

what did you think, flappsy

[thick charm]

We just went over that

She translated the "to translate" as "zu übersetzen"

[pine ginkgo]

no

[ocean robin]

lul but to answer solet

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[ocean robin]

Didn't know that "dass"covered "to do sth"

[pine ginkgo]

you have to remember

[ocean robin]

So I put the infinitive ther e

[pine ginkgo]

you need a conjugated verb anyway

and always remember

just because a word is a certain way in english

doesnt mean it has to be in german

[ocean robin]

yes so i see that now I must conjugate übersetzen now

Yes I know Solet.

[hot cloak]

This seems like a job for somvun who know jurman

[pine ginkgo]

why do you need to do that?

[thick charm]

We do know German

[ocean robin]

What should I do then what.

[hot cloak]

I'm kidding

[pine ginkgo]

why do you need to conjugate the verb in this case?

[ocean robin]

No infinitive ia wrong, and I still need to say that she have sentences to translate

[pine ginkgo]

no

just tell me

a basic reason

grammatically

[ocean robin]

oh my god how

[pine ginkgo]

why do you need to conjugate the verb in this case?

[sudden panther]

Didn't know that "dass"covered "to do sth"
We're rephrasing a bit here Flappy. You can't do "wants X to do Y" in German, which is why we're using "wants that X does Y" instead. A "dass"doesn't cover "to do sth", a "dass" is simply "that" here, and you should think of it as such. Just translate
"Krypto wants that Flappy translates a few sentences" completely ignoring everything you've thought about until this point. Because you're just confusing yourself at this point imo. 😉

[ocean robin]

:0

[pine ginkgo]

you are way overthinking every question, flappsy

[thick charm]

Arrem once again with the godlike help.

What would we do without you, my dude

[ocean robin]

Dammit, I am the type of person who can literraly confuse herself at every question

[hot cloak]

[pine ginkgo]

what is the reason

in german

[thick charm]

That's fine, Flappy. Don't worry about it, just know that we're all just trying to help you. You need to be able to answer these questions at some point, so might as well do it now.

[pine ginkgo]

that you conjugate the verb

and not use the infinitive

why is it wrong to use the infinitive?

[sudden panther]

Also we might have the problem that Flops hasn't really looked into grammar that much to know or be able to explain the logic behind certain things. Most of her learning here has really just been by example without going that in depth on the whole grammar part.

[pine ginkgo]

sure

but she can still say

"i dont know"

and then we tell her

[viscid cape]

Don't shatter Luna's view that everyone is a Latin PhD

😏

[pine ginkgo]

krypti

shut up

[ocean robin]

Well Arrem, I can safely say that I also have that problem in English. 😦

[thick charm]

You have a lot of time to fix that

You're much more fluent in English than I was at 14 and look at me now

[pine ginkgo]

so, do you have an answer, flaps?

[ocean robin]

Where what?

For English it's just automatically now

I don't feel like I am C1 but I don't feel like I am A2 either

[pine ginkgo]

no i mean

[ocean robin]

Yes Solet.

[pine ginkgo]

do yo have an answer for why in this case

[hot cloak]

Is it true English is one of the hardest languages to learn?

[pine ginkgo]

you conjugate the verb and not use the infinitive?

[viscid cape]

@thick charm is right, when I was 14 I was completely retarded. Well, more so than nowadays.

[sudden panther]

Well, then do listen to Solet Because knowing why things are like they are is how you actually learn them and how you learn to identify them in the wild and use them correctly. Just translating won't cut it, you have to be sure about everything you write as well. Which is why people ask you if you've understood your translation after you're done. And you shouldn't shy away from asking questions.

[ocean robin]

I wasn't shying away. :0

[pine ginkgo]

then answer the question?

[ocean robin]

To be honest

Frankly, I have no idea whai.

[pine ginkgo]

please just tell me that

when i ask it

not 10 minutes after

[exotic mesa]

thats good advice, making sure you understand the grammar of what you're saying

[ocean robin]

I am sorry, will do.

[pine ginkgo]

okay

now

the easy answer is

cause every complete sentence or clause requires a conjugated verb

[ocean robin]

Well, I learnt a bit of grammar, but at this point, I just learn grammar by sentences

AH.

[hot cloak]

[pine ginkgo]

next

since it's subordinate clause initiated by dass

it requires a conjugated verb

[hot cloak]

Why can't we all just speak with grunts

[pine ginkgo]

@sudden panther can you do something

[thick charm]

Because German is a much more beautiful way to communicate

[sudden panther]

Who do I ban?

[pine ginkgo]

everyone

[thick charm]

not me

we're brothers

[pine ginkgo]

there are a few exceptions, as you should have seen in a few translaions already, flaps

[hot cloak]

Grunts are beautiful to

[pine ginkgo]

where you don't conjugate the verb and use "zu machen"

[ocean robin]

I should write that when we'll be finished

[thick charm]

tuten tun

[ocean robin]

Mmmh

[sudden panther]

So, do what? 🤔

[thick charm]

Never use tuten tun

[ocean robin]

lol what was that

[whole rapids]

Ich tue machen

[unkempt flower]

??

[pine ginkgo]

it's important to know why you are translating it a certan way, flaps

so you can either know you are correct or, if it's a mistake, you can fix it and then learned from it

[unkempt flower]

I pop out and pop in and so much has happened

[pine ginkgo]

if at any point

you wanna translate something

and you actually do

but you don't know the reason for it being correct or wrong

ask

the worst is just doing something without any reason

without knowing why

cause that's not how you learn

(unless you are intuitively super talented)

[ocean robin]

Oh my god you're the best teacher I have ever met.

[pine ginkgo]

i mean

i would like it if you'd listen to me

[ocean robin]

But I am

I just need time to memorize it fully

[pine ginkgo]

it's alright

we'll get you further

you can think a bit about the questions

but it's easiest if i ask if you know something

you just say "yes" or "no"

[ocean robin]

oki dokie

In fact I think that is because of my main personality, hating the fact that I say that I can't do it because x reason

So I am searching and it takes forever because I actually don't know

[pine ginkgo]

you are learning

don't forget it, flappsy

unless you call yourself an expert

it is never wrong to ask

[ocean robin]

lol no me isn't a expert

[pine ginkgo]

if you are searching for an answer

instead just say no

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin If you have any questions, feel free to ask. There's no shame in asking. Everyone here is learning, even natives

[thick charm]

^

We're shit at grammar

[pine ginkgo]

if you have to search (for longer than a few seconds) then probably you are unsure or you don't know

[thick charm]

We just know that something has to be a certain way.

[sudden panther]

Also do feel free to decompose your sentences and translate part by part if you're not sure about things, instead of just spewing out one giant sentence with a bunch of mistakes.

[viscid cape]

@thick charm You know German way way better than I know Portuguese 😂

[sudden panther]

Anyway how about less talking more translating?

[ocean robin]

[thick charm]

You can do it Flöpsel

We all believe in you

[ocean robin]

Aww thank you.

[pine ginkgo]

arrem has good tips too

[exotic mesa]

Also, I'd like to say when you ask questions people that also dont understand are reading too, and asking about it help more people to learn as well, so thank you for talking about it in the first place

[pine ginkgo]

good arremm

[sudden panther]

How about we just go with
Krypto wants that Flops translates a few sentences. Preferrably from scratch, don't peek at your sentence above.

[pine ginkgo]

if you are reading and dont understand something, you are also free to interrupt :)

[ocean robin]

Sure thing.

[viscid cape]

Can I interrupt with a question?

[ocean robin]

Well let me translate that Arrem

[exotic mesa]

thank you! if I feel like I should, I will

[viscid cape]

Nvm

[ocean robin]

Krypto, is it trolling?

[torn kindle]

I FOUND YOU

[ocean robin]

WHO WHERE

[viscid cape]

No, but it's unrelated

[torn kindle]

you here.

[viscid cape]

I'll ask it in #general

[torn kindle]

with clothes on

shame on you

[sudden panther]

#questions is a thing too. 😉

So Flops. Translate or 🔪.

[ocean robin]

Krypto will, dass Flappy ein paar von Sätze übersetzt?

[viscid cape]

True, good idea

[hot cloak]

How do you say it's good to so you

In German

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

*see

[ocean robin]

To so you. Woo new idiom.

[hot cloak]

Wut

[unkempt flower]

@fair iron both

[fair iron]

^^

[ocean robin]

LOL WHAT

[fair iron]

Also, hey.

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

My freundin is also learning deutsch

[ocean robin]

lol i love that language switch

[pine ginkgo]

flappsy, why did you say "von"?

[ocean robin]

because maybe it was fokken litteral translation

[thick charm]

Hey Casca!

[sudden panther]

We should really consider doing this in #questions, so that I can yell at people for going offtopic.

[fair iron]

Hey Chuck!

[pine ginkgo]

of what? 🤔

what is it the translation of? :o

[ocean robin]

What is the translation of of?

[hot cloak]

I vunt YOU to lurn jurman

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

what did you translate von from

[ocean robin]

Of.

[fair iron]

What translation am I missing out on?

[ocean robin]

Wooo wait that I scroll up.

[pine ginkgo]

where did finf that arrem's sentence

[ocean robin]

like Krypti wants Flapssy to translate some sentences, although he doesn't provide any assistance.

Actually there.

[hot cloak]

Wait were are you from flaps

[sudden panther]

You don't usually use ein paar with von. Just use the plural of the noun you want in the case that it would normally go in if the ein paar wasn't there.

[thick charm]

Flappy is from France

[hot cloak]

Whattttt

That's cool

[torn kindle]

everyone is naked under their clothes

[fair iron]

True.

[ocean robin]

I thought about it Arrem.

But then there's no "von"?

I'll need a looot of time to be used to this.

[pallid kelp]

it's like "a couple things" instead of "a couple of things"

[hot cloak]

At least I know sign language

[sudden panther]

No. Ich muss ein paar Sätze schreiben. (schreiben requires accusative, so Sätze is in accusative here, no vons required.)
Ich habe ihn vor ein paar Monaten gesehen. (Vor requires dative, and we put Monaten in dative too, again no vons or anything.)

[ocean robin]

Wow, I must print that in my head.

[sudden panther]

There are some cases when you use von with ein paar, but we can ignore those for now.

[ocean robin]

SO YEAH THAT'S WHY I THOIGHT DATIVE

withoit knowing whai

[pine ginkgo]

(ein paar von denen sind doof) rennt

[hot cloak]

Mein katse nibbler is a wenig sheisse

Just kidding

Ich liebe mein katse

[ocean robin]

*Katze.

[sudden panther]

Anything else, Flipperflopper?

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

uuuh

[hot cloak]

See thank you

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

I wouldn't have known if you didn't correct me

[sudden panther]

With your correction, we end up with ich liebe mein Katze.

[fair iron]

What do nouns have, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Things about the first clause?

[fair iron]

What do they have.

[thick charm]

There are a few more mistakes, do you want us to fix them as well?

[ocean robin]

well they have articles

[fair iron]

Let Flappy try.

[thick charm]

No I was talkling to Flops

Not Flaps

[ocean robin]

Wait, what do I do now?

[fair iron]

What do nouns have, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

A gender

[fair iron]

Yes.

What gender does Katze have?

[sudden panther]

Find the mistake in ich liebe mein Katze, and then we can fix your sentence too. Though we really shouldn't be drifiting away this much. 🤔

[ocean robin]

"Ich liebe meine Katze." Katze -> acc.

[thick charm]

"Meine Katze Nibbler ist ein wenig scheisse."

[fair iron]

👌

^

[hot cloak]

Ohhhhhh

[fair iron]

We wanted you to correct *meine, Flappy. ^^

[ocean robin]

Yeah I saw that lul

I was like "afgstaf accusative"

[fair iron]

^^

[hot cloak]

Watch me say something bad to a German on accident and get beat up

[sudden panther]

So Flopper,

Krypto will, dass Flappy ein paar von Sätze übersetzt?
Is aaalmost correct now. See what I said about ein paar again if you have to, and give us the correct version or we'll send Casca over to eat your baguettes and drink all your wine.

[ocean robin]

"on accident"

WTF WHAT

[hot cloak]

So Flappers you speak fluent french right?

[ocean robin]

I don't need wine but yeah will do

Yes I am a French native speaker.

[hot cloak]

Doppeeeeee

[viscid cape]

Lol

[hot cloak]

So your like

Trilingual now bruh

[ocean robin]

Si tu veux je peux switch comme ça mais bon la plupart du temps c'est dans #other-languages qu'on fait ça

There proof lul

Okay Arrem let's go.

[fair iron]

That doesn't prove you're native, Flappy. ^^

[ocean robin]

"Krypto will, dass Flappy ein paar Sätze übersetzt."

what lol

[thick charm]

👌

[fair iron]

^

[viscid cape]

You did it guuuuurl

[ocean robin]

I rememeber this.

[pine ginkgo]

to prove you are a native speaker, you have to write such garbled grammar, that a learner would think you can't speak the language, but a native speaker will recognize, you fucked up the sentence, only a native would

[sudden panther]

Goood. So now let's add that other part.

[ocean robin]

yeah, I dunno if I can prove it now

[sudden panther]

, although he doesn't provide any assistance.
Hint: don't use liefern unless he's delivering the assistance in a box.

[ocean robin]

What should it be then.

There are so many verbs for it.

[sudden panther]

lookup provide en de

[viral thunder]

Showing translations for provide:

- etw. anbieten
- etw. bereitstellen
- liefern
- bieten
- abgeben
- verschaffen
- jdn. beliefern
- vorschreiben
- besorgen
- versehen
- bestimmen
- vorsehen
- beschaffen
- vorsorgen
- beistellen
- verordnen
- verleihen
- bilden
- etw. zur Verfügung stellen
- etw. beibringen```

[ocean robin]

What did I say.

[thick charm]

https://www.dict.cc/?s=provide+assistance ahem

[ocean robin]

No, I mean that there are so many that I dunno which one I can choose.

[sudden panther]

Nice, dcc can do phrases too.

Just see what Chuck posted. 👌

lookup "provide assistance" en de

[viral thunder]

Showing translations for provide assistance:

- Hilfe bieten bei
- (jdm.) Hilfestellung geben
- abgeben
- beistellen
- beschaffen
- besorgen
- bestimmen
- bieten
- liefern
- verordnen
- verschaffen
- versehen
- versorgen
- vorschreiben
- vorsehen
- vorsorgen
- jdn. beliefern
- etw. zur Verfügung stellen
- Assistenz
- Aushilfe```

[pine ginkgo]

it's always a good idea

to see if it is a set phrase

or just randomly placed words

[ocean robin]

"Hilfe leisten"

when you see in 3 secs that the sentence you did is fokked up

[thick charm]

you has the right idea

it started with an L

That's something

[ocean robin]

woow

I think that is only a coincidence

[viscid cape]

On a side note, @copper pecan 's gif is so adorable, I want it for me

[sudden panther]

Less thinking, more translating.

[ocean robin]

Yes.

[copper pecan]

nuh

[ocean robin]

I just need to do sth and then I am here.

[copper pecan]

its mine

[ocean robin]

I SWEAR THIS GIF IS CUTE AS HELL

[sudden panther]

Just keep in mind that it's Hilfe leisten and that you shouldn't double-negate, and there's no way you'll make a mistake. Unless your true talent lies in mistake making. 😛

[ocean robin]

Everyday I was looking at it

Oh geez Arrem.

[hot cloak]

I remember seeing a study saying alot of Germans hate their own language

[ocean robin]

"obwohl er Hilfe nicht leistet"

[fair iron]

After seeing others struggle with our language, I think we're quite pleased to speak it already. ^^

[ocean robin]

I remember seeing that everyone hates their native languages

[hot cloak]

Why?

[ocean robin]

Because reasons

[hot cloak]

Well English sucks ass

[ocean robin]

I don't hate French but

[hot cloak]

It sounds boring

*English

[pine ginkgo]

after i learned english

[ocean robin]

I love German and English idk whai

[pine ginkgo]

i found new profound happiness with german

[ocean robin]

woooo

[hot cloak]

German sounds cool

[ocean robin]

^

[hot cloak]

And like it knows it's cool but it plays it off

That's German pretty much

[ocean robin]

I don't care what people say, whether it's hard or not, I'll still do my best

[hot cloak]

That's all that matters

[viscid cape]

Is @ocean robin 's sentence correct?

[ocean robin]

It is now.

[viscid cape]

Hum

[ocean robin]

Are you thinking about another one?

[viscid cape]

One could also say obwohl er keine Hilfe leistet, right? Which one would be more common?

[hot cloak]

[ocean robin]

I can safely say that I don't feel like I am near B1, really.

[quasi merlin]

"keine Hilfe" is better.

[pine ginkgo]

yes

[whole rapids]

B1 isn't that high

probs close to it

[viscid cape]

I see, thanks @quasi merlin

[ocean robin]

🤔

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin Worry about making progress, not about stages

[ocean robin]

wow tru

[whole rapids]

wise words

[ocean robin]

^

[whole rapids]

now translate his sentence

[ocean robin]

👀

[whole rapids]

take that as "okay, sofort"

[ocean robin]

Sofort?

[whole rapids]

aussitôt

[ocean robin]

Ahhhh oki dokie

+1 more word in English vocabulary

[whole rapids]

that's French

and "sofort" is German

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin Are you really 14?

[ocean robin]

Yes I am really 14.

[cold vessel]

I wish I knew 2.5 languages at 14

[ocean robin]

Do you want a hug? D:

Also that 0.5 in German hahahaha no.

[fair iron]

*yes.

[ocean robin]

What where.

[whole rapids]

"no"

[ocean robin]

Okay now my mind is blown.

What are you talking about? D:

[fair iron]

Give yourself more credit, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

You say that I am underestimating myself?

[whole rapids]

Little ones seem to be learning English faster these days, soon all 10 year olds will be fluent at it across western Europe

[ocean robin]

Well, I am almosy fluent in English. 😎

[fair iron]

You are fluent.

[ocean robin]

Wait what.

[whole rapids]

You are fluent.

[ocean robin]

I am fluent and I am 14.

Wait what.

[whole rapids]

Your vocabulary might not be as large as ours but you can express yourself, in almost every concept or context, which I would consider as fluent.

[exotic mesa]

👍

[hot cloak]

Omg you're so young and have so many aknowledges Fläppers !

[ocean robin]

Yeah, sometimes I feel like my vocab is meh but then I can see all the things I can say

[whole rapids]

Yes, good, good, shower her with praise so she doesn't have time to self-deprecate.

[hot cloak]

Hi !

[ocean robin]

Acknowledge? Isn't it only knowledge?

And hai!

[whole rapids]

presumably typo

hello Pet

[ocean robin]

Oh oki

[exotic mesa]

hey pet

[ocean robin]

English class is way too boring for me by the way.

[whole rapids]

easy grades

[ocean robin]

We are "learning" about pronouns

gid fokk i already know those

[whole rapids]

I, YOU, HE, SHE, IT, WE, THEY, Y'ALL, YOU GUYS

[hot cloak]

French's level may be boring indeed

[ocean robin]

"test tommorow" "okay i don't care gimme today"

[hot cloak]

What's your grade ?

[ocean robin]

10th grade.

Or 2nde.

[hot cloak]

Pfiuh thanks xD

[exotic mesa]

yeah flappy i think i get you. My boyfriend said how he slept through english class because he knew it already and it was pretty boring for him

[ocean robin]

The level of 10th grade is A2.

I am C1.

problem.

[exotic mesa]

but getting a high grade in it at the end of it all will be really good for your future

[hot cloak]

Where did you pass the C1 thing ?

[ocean robin]

Well, just for showing you how the hell I am bored in English

Last year, I didn't learn all my lesson etc, even the ones with little stories etc.

Got 19.68/20

[whole rapids]

@hot cloak Unlike French, there is no space before a question mark or exclamation mark in English.

[ocean robin]

There is a test on Internet.

Please forgive him, that's a habit that Frenchies have and it is very difficult to get rid of it. D:

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin Pronouns doesn't sound like A2

[hot cloak]

As I am in the euro section, our lessons are different, even though it's always the same subjects we're talking about, each year =v=

[ocean robin]

Lol, does it sound like A1?

[whole rapids]

I know, that's how I know he's French

[exotic mesa]

maybe they were revising at the time

[ocean robin]

I am in the European Section too.

People didn't know what "hunt" meant.

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin Yes, closer to A1

[ocean robin]

=w=

[cold vessel]

@ocean robin In the French education system do you learn a 3rd language at some point?

[hot cloak]

Oh Pferd, thanks ! Is it a problem if I type like this ? xD B-because I was taught like that and I'm used to it nownjzkebfkbgr

[ocean robin]

Though I am a little bit shy for talking. All my skills are there when I am writing about a theme, for example.

Yep henbruas! That way I chose German when I was in 7th grade.

Wait no.

German was my 2nd.

I chose Spanish as my 3rd.

[thick charm]

You started learning German before you started learning English?

[cold vessel]

I said 3rd language, not 3rd foreign language

[ocean robin]

Ah then German is my 3rd.

[unkempt flower]

Meanwhile, in the Philippines, English is one of the two main languages for education here. Sadly, we don't learn a 3rd language in our curriculum so lol

[fair iron]

It's no problem whatsoever, Pet.

[cold vessel]

You're learning English, German and Spanish?

[hot cloak]

Then Fläppers, when you'll see the normal sections' English lessons, you'll find yourself lucky (':

[unkempt flower]

(rolls)

[exotic mesa]

thats a lot of language subjects...

[fair iron]

(Pirouettes.)

[ocean robin]

I hope it'll be normal. I am doing a CEFR test in February and people want that I get at least B1.

at least

[cold vessel]

If your fellow students are that bad at English I'm not sure teaching them two more languages at the same time is very helpful 🤔

[thick charm]

You'll be B1 by then

[fair iron]

You'll do great, Flappy.

[thick charm]

I doubt you'll be B2

[fair iron]

There's lots of time until February.

[hot cloak]

Omg you're so lucky !! I wanted to take Spanish but they don't have it in my whole region :'D

[thick charm]

But there's no rush

[unkempt flower]

Go for it, Flappy~

[ocean robin]

Wait Chuck. Does that mean I am not B2.

[thick charm]

I doubt you'll be B2 by February

B1 to B2 is a huge leap

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

I mean, in English Chuck.

[thick charm]

oh

[ocean robin]

Not in German.

[thick charm]

I was talking about German

sorry

[ocean robin]

I saw that lel

[hot cloak]

Is it the Cambridge thing Fläppers ?

[ocean robin]

YES IT IS

[fair iron]

You're C1, so it's a little late for you to reach B1/2, Flappy. ^^

[ocean robin]

LOL

[unkempt flower]

Y'all are lucky that you get to learn more languages in your educational curricula

[hot cloak]

I passed it too in 2nde ! >v<

[ocean robin]

hehehe

[unkempt flower]

(internal crying bc Philippines why)

[ocean robin]

And how were the results?

[whole rapids]

@hot cloak It's not a problem per se, it just looks strange (to me) when someone always adds a space before punctuation that doesn't need it.

[fair iron]

You're fluent in two languages, Pamiau. That's something to take great pride in. 😃

[whole rapids]

At least you guys know more than one language.

[hot cloak]

I got the B1, everything was in excellent aside the oral part because I really suck at speaking lmao

[ocean robin]

I'll see for the oral part lol

[hot cloak]

Tbh I used to find it strange not to see those spaces xD Because it's like typo for me but I got used to it !

Okok I'll try for Pferd then xD

[ocean robin]

All that I know was like there was a English contest in our school and was in top 3 each yeat

*year. Brah.

[whole rapids]

thanks 💋

[hot cloak]

You're so impressive Fläppers qwq

[whole rapids]

I'd ace that contest

[hot cloak]

Can I call you Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Well ehe thank you

You can!

I have a lot of nicknames.

[fair iron]

Come April 1st, you'll have another.

[hot cloak]

Cool huh!

[whole rapids]

Floßßer is one of many names

[ocean robin]

Oh yeah that's what you said Casca.

[unkempt flower]

@fair iron The thing is that it's a bit sad, considering that it would be nice for students to have language learning support as early as high school

[hot cloak]

Aaah ß ! I'm always wondering why it has a point on the left side xD

[ocean robin]

[unkempt flower]

@fair iron especially since it's most likely that these students may end up working abroad at one point

[fair iron]

That certainly would be a great thing. As that isn't the case, though, we'll simply be the ones to support you through learning a third language. ^^

[unkempt flower]

Yes, danke~

[ocean robin]

And I don't know why I love languages so much.

[unkempt flower]

(internally cries because German is actually my 4th, but my progress with German is faster than Japanese bc fuck kanji)

[ocean robin]

I started self-teching English when I was 6. I even don't remember how.

[whole rapids]

kanji is the devil

[ocean robin]

*i don't even remember how

[fair iron]

Four is even more impressive than three. Don't beat yourself up just because progress is slow.

[hot cloak]

Haha Pamiau I feel you !

[whole rapids]

*I do not recall the manner in which this process began.

[hot cloak]

I started to learn English after German and I still can't speak German dies

[ocean robin]

Progress is slow because you already have a lot of knowledge about languages and it can be confusing.

See Pet, I made a recording of me talking German and even if I am A2 I am understandable.

[hot cloak]

Is A2 the level you get after secondary school ?

After the brevet ?

[ocean robin]

After 2nde yep.

[hot cloak]

2nde ?

I didn't pass any language test in German in 2nde ovo

Sorry Pferd I somehow managed to forget for the ? :'D

[whole rapids]

😢

[fair iron]

Either *2nd or *secondary, Flappy. ^^

[hot cloak]

I think she's talking about the grade ?

[fair iron]

Then 2nd.

2nde doesn't exist.

[hot cloak]

In French there's a grade called "Seconde" which is the 10th according to her ^^

[ocean robin]

French Casca.

[fair iron]

Oh.

[ocean robin]

Seconde = secondary. I said that to Pet that way he isn't confused because he doesn't know the US grades.

[fair iron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hot cloak]

I-I'm a girl xD

[ocean robin]

By good thought. 👌

wooo another girl come here

[whole rapids]

A grill.

[hot cloak]

Exactly !

A grill

[ocean robin]

Ues if you want to, Pferd.

[whole rapids]

Ich bin auch ein Mädchen.

[hot cloak]

Let me grill some Pferd

[dire sentinel]

girls don't exist

[ocean robin]

NO

[dire sentinel]

sorry guys

[ocean robin]

my dreams are destroyed

[fair iron]

Creepy!

[ocean robin]

[dire sentinel]

cascat

flippo

[whole rapids]

Ja, deshalb habe ich ein "Grill" gesagt.

[ocean robin]

Look another nickname for Casca that I should have thought of.

[whole rapids]

Es gibt überhaupt keine "girls"

Cascablanca.

[ocean robin]

Oh that was erm.

[fair iron]

I should also note down all of my nicknames at some point.

There are more than I can recall.

[ocean robin]

I can't note down mine. Too many. 😅

[thick charm]

I always went with Chuck for as long as I can remember

[fair iron]

Let's see. 🤔

[thick charm]

time to go to the theatre

[ocean robin]

By the way that reminds me something

[thick charm]

Have fun you guys

[ocean robin]

Have fun.

[fair iron]

Casca, Cassi, Cassie, Cascasause, Cascat, Cas. I probably forgot some.

Enjoy yourself, Chuck!

[unkempt flower]

Take care, Chuck

[dire sentinel]

seeing IT?

[ocean robin]

Flappy, Flops, Flopps, Flappsy, Flappers, Fluppsi, Flop, Floppy, Flapouille, Flappou, Flap, etc.

[hot cloak]

Flappy <3

[valid ice]

Flepperhecker is by far my favourite ^^

[ocean robin]

YES LOL

[hot cloak]

Floppy ça me fait penser à Tsuyu de BNHA >w<

[ocean robin]

Wow BNHA.

I must see that.

In fact the nickname Floppy came from a typo

[fair iron]

Just wait, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

Wait.

[fair iron]

You'll have another nickname next year. ^^

[ocean robin]

hehehe i wonder what that will be

Flappegg

And I am also looking foward to December 11th. Chok said that there'll be a party.

[valid ice]

Dr. Flappegg

[ocean robin]

OMG

I LAUGHED SO HARD WHAI CALLUM

[valid ice]

.

[cold vessel]

Flæppy

[ocean robin]

There is Flappè too.

[cold vessel]

[4:50 PM] Pamiau (パミアウ): Y'all are lucky that you get to learn more languages in your educational curricula
I had 3 years of Spanish and 2 years of German during school, but I didn't actually learn anything ...

[ocean robin]

Remember when I first came here?

[hot cloak]

Flapé

[ocean robin]

That's how my German was when I was in school.

Aka 8 errors in a sentence that wasn't difficult.

[whole rapids]

Only 8?

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

I wish I had been @ocean robin 's teacher in school

I'd make custom, more difficult tests for her

🤔

And have her translate them on the blackboard in front of everyone

[ocean robin]

hoyl

But you can make them online

[viscid cape]

True, I shall

Now go to the principal's

You annoy me, little brat

[cold vessel]

This is already in front of 400 people, so 😄

[viscid cape]

True 🤔

[fair iron]

I'm the principal.

I declare that Flappy is not a brat.

[viscid cape]

Dayum

Should've checked who the principal is beforehand

🤔

[fair iron]

I started today, you couldn't have known.

[viscid cape]

Oh

[ocean robin]

Oh wow.

[cold vessel]

Nun, da Casca der Schuldirektor ist, die Spiel und Spaß vorbei sind

[viscid cape]

@grand seal Go back to whence you came

Bloody alien

[grand seal]

👽

[ocean robin]

[fair iron]

Ich würde doch den Spaß nicht verbieten. 😦

[grand seal]

Forsooth, thy comment hath madeth me cross.

[fair iron]

The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn.

[grand seal]

Such offence require settlement by fisticuffs

[cold vessel]

Du sollst nicht passieren!

[fair iron]

These be fighting words. What say you, Kryptik?

[placid heath]

Na, ihr Rhabarberbarbararhabarberbarbarbarenbartbarbiere?

[fair iron]

Wer soll nicht passieren?

[grand seal]

Der Balrog

[fair iron]

I can't help but smile at the brilliance of your pun.

[ocean robin]

That word.

[cold vessel]

Did I write it incorrectly?

[ocean robin]

you shall NOT passss

[fair iron]

I didn't realise you were referring to my reference, is all. ^^

[grand seal]

Fly, you fools

[viscid cape]

He killed a balrog, man... A BALROG

[ocean robin]

Is this Jawzie teasing me for a fight? >:)

[viscid cape]

A balrog is like, a bloody God

[ocean robin]

[cold vessel]

He technically died in the process though

[grand seal]

Fight me, small French girl.

[viscid cape]

Yes but it's ridiculous, he's just a human wizard

[grand seal]

I'll destroy you.

[viscid cape]

A Balrog is a maiar

[cold vessel]

Gandalf isn't human

[viscid cape]

He's practically a god

[ocean robin]

Lol small girl.

[grand seal]

Yes not a wizard

[viscid cape]

What is he then?

[ocean robin]

Yer don't know me well

[grand seal]

And not human

[ocean robin]

He's a ghost.

[fair iron]

The German translation of fly, you fools seems incorrect to me.

[grand seal]

Run, morons

[ocean robin]

[fair iron]

It would be flee, you fools. However, that doesn't hint at the eagles that are waiting behind the misty mountains.

Unwatchable.

[cold vessel]

Gandalf is a Maia, same as the Balrogs

[viscid cape]

Oh shit

[cold vessel]

(I had to look that up, I remember nothing from Silmarillion)

[viscid cape]

Why did you spoil that

:v

[ocean robin]

I thought first that you were talking about the fly animal

[fair iron]

The Balrogs are not the same as the Maia, although they are on the same level of the hierarchy.

[grand seal]

To fly also means to flee or to run away from

[cold vessel]

@fair iron Is wiki wrong? 😮

[ocean robin]

I am the only one who didn't watch that movie.

[fair iron]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

They were maias I think, Melkor seduced them

[cold vessel]

"According to The Silmarillion, the evil Vala Melkor corrupted lesser Maiar (angelic beings) to his service in the days of his splendor before the making of Arda.[3][4] These became known as "Demons of Might": Valaraukar in Quenya, and (with an anglicized plural) Balrogs in Sindarin."

[fair iron]

*Trilogy, Flappy.

Huh, TIL.

[grand seal]

Sindarin. The prettiest conlang

[ocean robin]

Wow it is a trilogy.

[fair iron]

I recall thinking that at one point, but thought I got corrected on that. Guess not.

[viscid cape]

If they add it to duolingo I'll learn it

[fair iron]

^

[grand seal]

Sounds like speaking Finnish during a little death.

[ocean robin]

LOL

[viscid cape]

@grand seal How would you.... even know that...

😏

[ocean robin]

wait what.

what...is this.

[grand seal]

How would you not?

[viscid cape]

No inappropriate language here

[ocean robin]

Like I?

I am really satisfied to have a pure vocabulary.

[viscid cape]

Better

[grand seal]

There fixed it

[ocean robin]

There better.

[grand seal]

Now no one will be offended

[ocean robin]

I don't know what the word meant, anyway.

[whole rapids]

you're too young to know

but one day

you will understand

[grand seal]

You'll understand if you learn Sindarin

And/or Finnish

[whole rapids]

Eines Tages wird alles Wissen deins sein.

[fair iron]

Enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4hA-u_eMMQ

[grand seal]

Une petit mort

Or something

[ocean robin]

*une petite mort.

c:

[grand seal]

I don't speak that nonsense.

[ocean robin]

[grand seal]

Oh right. Declensions are a thing

[ocean robin]

By the way guys, for the story I am making.

I did the English one first to have all the ideas and blahblahblah

And then the German one will come.

[grand seal]

@fair iron all my hairs are trying to leave me body

I love that song

[fair iron]

That scene is my favourite.

Especially the "My friends, you bow to no one." part.

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin Post post post

[fair iron]

I always get goosebumps at that point.

[ocean robin]

It's not finished yet.

~600 words at that point and it's the beggining.

[viscid cape]

Am I a Godlike character in it

[ocean robin]

Not yet.

[grand seal]

Yeah. Sort of like Dionysus.

[ocean robin]

But you'll recognize yourself right away,I assure you.

[viscid cape]

Scary 🤔

[grand seal]

He'll be the character staring at everyone

[ocean robin]

LOL

[grand seal]

Making them uncomfortable

[ocean robin]

"I am looking to yoooou."

[viscid cape]

[grand seal]

If everyone doesn't get abducted by aliens in the end

It won't be worth reading for me.

[ocean robin]

WTF

[grand seal]

👽

[ocean robin]

But I swear it's hyping me.

That story is AHHH I MUST WRITE IT

[viscid cape]

"And everyone gets abducted. The end."

[grand seal]

Art.

[ocean robin]

You know the theme. Right.

[viscid cape]

No

Flappy's adventures in Flappyland

[ocean robin]

Then... surprise.

Don't spoil you all.

[fair iron]

Go with the original: Flappy's Adventures Under Ground.

[grand seal]

The flapping flap flapped flappily, while Flaps flapped in her flap. The flap was flapped, but Flaps was flapping the flapped flap.

[cold vessel]

Meine Freunde, ihr beugt sich für niemand

(How wrong is that? :P)

[grand seal]

I have no idea

I get it though

[ocean robin]

Flappy's adventures Under Ground.

[cold vessel]

Why didn't it convert the emoji 🤔

[ocean robin]

Let's take the tube.

[grand seal]

The bracket probably?

[viscid cape]

You use dative instead if 'für + akk'

And the reflexive is wrong

[ocean robin]

Woo sich is for er sie es.

[cold vessel]

Oh duh it's euch

[fair iron]

Meine Freunde, ihr verneigt euch vor niemandem.

[placid heath]

Meine Freunde, knickt vor niemandem ein! or something

[viscid cape]

Oh

[grand seal]

Omg fight

[viscid cape]

Can't you say sich beugen? 😂

[ocean robin]

Casca is always faster bois

[placid heath]

Verneigen would be bow

[ocean robin]

Don't deny it

[placid heath]

I understood it like dont give up

[fair iron]

Einknicken klingt weniger lustig.

[cold vessel]

@placid heath Nope

[fair iron]

^

[placid heath]

:(

[fair iron]

^^

[placid heath]

:((

[grand seal]

The actual thing he's trying to translate is

My friends, you bow to no man.

[ocean robin]

What.

[fair iron]

no *one. ^^

[grand seal]

It might be no one.

[fair iron]

It is. 😄

[grand seal]

It means the same thing

[ocean robin]

hahahaha.

[cold vessel]

It's "I am no man" though 😄

[grand seal]

Yeah. Maybe getting those confused though.

[placid heath]

Über was für ein Zitat redet ihr gerade?

[viscid cape]

Monty Python

[grand seal]

I hate that she beats the witch king because of a grammar loophole.

[viscid cape]

Jk I don't know

[ocean robin]

Wow I found German exercises.

[grand seal]

So dumb. Mankind includes women.

[cold vessel]

What's the difference between beugen and verneigen though?

[ocean robin]

You know what I'll do now

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin Do them and post them here

[ocean robin]

Will do.

[cold vessel]

@grand seal Thank God Westron is gendered

[ocean robin]

Wait, what gender is Tee already? D:

[cold vessel]

der

[ocean robin]

Thank you.

[grand seal]

'No man can slay me' and 'no one can slay me' mean the exact same thing.

[fair iron]

Unless you take genders into the equation.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grand seal]

I mean, the first could mean only males if that's what's intended

[viscid cape]

Give up @grand seal , @fair iron just lectured you in English

😏

[grand seal]

But why would he do that?

Seems like a vast oversight to me

[fair iron]

I lectured him? When?

[viscid cape]

Just teasing

[ocean robin]

[viscid cape]

'Man' can be used in general though, it doesn't have to refer to males

[grand seal]

It's derived from mankind

Which means human

[ocean robin]

Holy shit I see an exercise who can help me as fok.

[grand seal]

Which means everyone

Not just men

Exactly

[ocean robin]

Acc + Dat in a sentence. Challenge accepted.

[grand seal]

In that context it would normally mean everybody

[viscid cape]

@ocean robin Do it

:v

[ocean robin]

clam down teacher

[viscid cape]

Like "He was the first man to step on the moon"

[grand seal]

How dumb would she look if she said 'I am no man' and stabbed him and he was like 'lol nope learn English, moron'

[ocean robin]

I'll write it and then I'll underline Dat and Acc.

[grand seal]

Westron* sorry

[fair iron]

It should have been Merry.

[grand seal]

I mean, I like the whole powerful woman kills the boss thing. It's awesome.

[fair iron]

True.

[grand seal]

I just wish it was on her own merit rather than a cheap grammar loophole

Like how awesome would it be if she just straight up killed him in battle

The whole grammar thing cheapens her victory imo

[cold vessel]

She couldn't beat him in battle though

[ocean robin]

Enjoy handwriting. ^^

Now teacher I wait.

[cold vessel]

Can you link the exercises Fløppy?

[grand seal]

And then Sauron looks dumb because he's like 'oh whoops I forgot women were a thing when I was writing the magic rules for my witch king lol.'

[ocean robin]

Sure, that was a translation.

[placid heath]

He was the first man who stepped on the moon?

[ocean robin]

Yus.

Wait no.

[grand seal]

onto*

[fair iron]

Are Datif and Accusatif French?

[ocean robin]

Yes they are.

Respectively for dative and accusative.

[pine ginkgo]

go make her suffer, casca

[grand seal]

on just sounds like he's squishing it with his foot like a bug.

[cold vessel]

@grand seal It was Glorfindel's prophecy

[ocean robin]

hoyl solet

[pine ginkgo]

anyway, flaps

you remember what we said about sein

[ocean robin]

seems like I forgot a subordinating

oh shoot yes

no declination

[grand seal]

I haven't read the book or Silmarillion. So I'm going straight from the movie.

The books probably explain it a lot better.

[pine ginkgo]

i wish the silmarillion wouldn't read so much like a history book

:D

[cold vessel]

I'm just reading wikis

[ocean robin]

wow that is fun

[pine ginkgo]

the second part is better tho

the first part is kinda boring

[ocean robin]

recommend it 10/10

[fair iron]

I need to read the books at some point.

[pine ginkgo]

man

when i was super hyped about lord when i was younger

i tried to read the books

[grand seal]

It's basically the only nitpick I have. Other than the op eagles.

[pine ginkgo]

and i don't think i even got out of the shire

[grand seal]

I love those movies dearly

[fair iron]

Me too.

I'll never get tired of rewatching them.

[pine ginkgo]

well, the eagles are god's assistants

praised be manwe

[grand seal]

I've read part of LotR. Because I definitely know Tom Bombadil

[fair iron]

I stopped shortly after that.

[grand seal]

And he isn't in the movie

[fair iron]

I don't own the other LotR books, though. :(

[grand seal]

The gods didn't want to assist destroying the ultimate evil?

[fair iron]

They were busy singing.

[grand seal]

Ah. I get that. Basically me.

[fair iron]

😄

[pine ginkgo]

well, that too

and they basically had a contract

that the gods leave middle earth alone

[fair iron]

I think the first war would also have been awesome to witness.

Sauron's powerful, but he doesn't compare to Melkor.

[ocean robin]

"Look omg magnificent there's killings"

[grand seal]

See that makes sense. Mention that once in the movies and BAM plothole closed.

[pine ginkgo]

well

it was in the silmarillion :D

not in the lotr books iir

c

cause well

only few people are even alive

who know about it

(galadriel cough)

gandalf cough

saruman cough

[grand seal]

'Why can't the eagles just do it?' 'they dun wanna lol' 'oh ok'

Perfect movie

[fair iron]

I like the theory that they were meant to.

Hence the Fly, you fools. part.

Except Gandalf fell, and the plan collapsed.

[grand seal]

But they slept in

[pine ginkgo]

gandalf has no power over the eagles

they are friends tho

[grand seal]

Fly just means flee. Not literally fly though.

[pine ginkgo]

also

even if the plan was to come

they could "only" get to mordor

not into mordor

granted some people wouldn't have died

[grand seal]

'bro help me off this tower' 'k' 'bro help us destroy this ring' 'neh'.

[pine ginkgo]

but they would still have to sneak into mordor

[fair iron]

True, but I find it to be an amusing idea.

(That they were meant to fly part of the way, at least.)

[cold vessel]

But why would they cross the mountains and THEN fly

[grand seal]

That would make some sense

Because eagles are racist to dwarves maybe

[pine ginkgo]

well

the gods don't really like the dwarves

since they were created due to melkor's whispers