"klein" hehe
#general-2
hot cloak
runic rain
lilac dew
hannah montana still in germany
mystic oxide
German tour
runic rain
Yiik yojk-huud het neko.
runic rain
- Person singular vs Plural
runic rain
Ich fand neko ganz cool.
quasi merlin
Heißt "Yiik" "ich"?
sudden panther
Deine Sprache? 🤔 😮
quasi merlin
Arrem, wann bemerkst du eigentlich, dass ich dir auf dem anderen Server nicht nur mit random Buchstaben antworte?
runic rain
Du kannst sie gerne miterfinden doggo
quasi merlin
Phountix, gib mir ein Wort für Nacht :D
runic rain
neko ist meins...
sudden panther
🤔
sudden panther
Wie wär's mit arrem? 😄
quasi merlin
Ich mach Lumas
sudden panther
😦
quasi merlin
Oh Gott, ich hab vorhin Zahlen erfunden
Das sieht richtig chaotisch aus
"Heòl" sieht hübsch aus
Jetzt musst du dem eine Bedeutung geben 😅
Naja, bin müde
Idi zaðemi le. Iko apran deðki naise lumase!
(Ich werde schlafen. Dir wird eine gute Nacht gegeben.)
runic rain
Fuck alter. Deine Sprache kennt schon Zeitformen?
runic rain
Damn guurl
quasi merlin
"le" ist ich
runic rain
Eigentlich wollte ich Türkisch lernen
quasi merlin
Wieso nur eigentlich?
runic rain
Zumindest ein bisschen ...
Naja, mal schsuen ob sich unsere sprachen noch entwickeln
Wäre doch ein cooles experiment, vielleicht können wir in ner Woche einander schreiben, und keiner außer uns versteht's
Heòl!
runic rain
Yiik gu-komp'ka idi
Ich leihe mir dein, weil ich noch nicht weiß ich ich mit zeiten umgehen soll.
quasi merlin
Ich hab's mir mit Zeiten einfach gemacht
runic rain
Im Zweifel durch einfache vokabeln am satzende/anfang
quasi merlin
Ich packe ein Wort vor das Verb
runic rain
Nais!
#lehnswörter
Ich glaube ich setze einfach ein wort ans ende.
Und ich glaube Komma und nebensätze wird es erstmal nicht geben
One by one
quasi merlin
Meine Art Nebensätze zu machen ist schlimm
Daran muss ich noch arbeiten
Ja, setz einfach ein Wort ans Ende oder so
Verbkonjugation ist blöd 😅
Hab ich deswegen auch nicht :p
runic rain
Wird es wohl auch erstmal bei mir nicht geben :D s
Es gilt ja auch erstmal die vokabeln selbst zu lernen.
Words-jumblen kann jeder
Die kunst ist es - sie sich zu merken
quasi merlin
Ich muss so viel nachgucken manchmal
Und ich hab seit vorhin Adjektivendungen und die kann ich noch nicht
Es hilft auch, ein paar Lehnwörter zu haben
"lingo" "gramaðik" "histori" "kanêl"
runic rain
-!bærol- 1
Heòl
Yiik - ich/mir
Gu - Du/dich
Yojk - ihr/euch
Neko - nacht
Ich versuche möglichst wenige Sonderzeichen zuhaben, aber ist natürlich cooler
runic rain
Wenn ich jetzt im Chat nach "-!bærol-" suche finde ich meine 'memos'
quasi merlin
ð für englisches th
runic rain
revive the th
quasi merlin
ðððððð
Ok, nächste Woche können wir uns unterhalten, ohne dass jemand was versteht.
Gehe jetzt wirklich schlafen. Gute Nacht! 😅
runic rain
Amstsprachen von #general-2 sind fortan bærol und Lenze.
quasi merlin
Bærol und Lenze, ja
still hazel
@lunar moss there are plenty of people on here (like me) that are just starting to learn german... if you've just begun, maybe just listen in and ask questions on #questions 😃 we're all learners here, just ask if you dont understand something 😃
lunar moss
@still hazel Ich werde 
still hazel
😄
ashen beacon
Kann jemand die Grammatik erklären, warum das Motto der Uni Heidelberg "Dem lebendigen Geist" lautet, aber nicht "Der lebendige Geist"?
Ich habe gesucht, ob der Satz weitergeht, aber es steht eigentlich immer allein
hot cloak
Sie erhielt die von Friedrich Gundolf formulierte Widmung „Dem lebendigen Geist“, die, nachdem sie während der NS-Diktatur durch die Widmung „Dem deutschen Geist“ ersetzt worden war
hmm
ich gehe davon aus, dass es so ähnlich wie was auf dem Bundestag steht sein sollte ("dem deutschen volke")
Syntaktisch betrachtet ist die Inschrift „Dem deutschen Volke“ eine Nominalphrase im Dativ, wie sie sich häufig als Widmung am Beginn eines Buches finden lässt. Diese Ellipse muss implizit durch Subjekt und Akkusativ-Objekt (wer widmet was) ergänzt werden.
coarse jungle
I should hit the gym
plush shoal
coarse jungle
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hot cloak
@ashen beacon hilft das dir? 😄
opal sequoia
What are they like?
sudden panther
Crowy.
hot cloak
yeah i don't think they exist in TX
so i only knew them from children's songs and stuff
opal sequoia
We have magpies but they're totally different birds.
opal sequoia
They're black and white so kinda.
twilit garden
Are they known for stealing things outside of Germany too?
small relic
Never heard of Australian magpies stealing stuff
Mainly just trying to kill everyone during breeding season
hot cloak
we know them in america as thieves but i think that's english influence
also getting baked into pies
small relic
I thought the blackbirds were the ones that got baked into pies
fair iron
😋
pine ginkgo
or by german pizzas yet?
hot cloak
attacked by german pizzas 🤔
twilit garden
Dr. Oetker
shivers
fair iron
Hot-Dog Pizza Burger
twilit garden
pine ginkgo
nichts gegen hot-dog pizzen!
hot cloak
this is not a drill
twilit garden
i told him about that one
opal sequoia
🤔
twilit garden
this is what they look like irl
hot cloak
LOL
after i took that pic a woman reached in and bought it
D:
i can't imagine how gross they taste
twilit garden
*groß
hot cloak
macht schokopizzen wieder groß
torn kindle
ewwww
quasi merlin
Das sieht absolut widerlich aus.
hot cloak
@sturdy shadow it's full of Turks and I live in the same building as a kebab place and I discovered I can get by better than I thought and the Düsseldorfhauptbahnhof is a mess
fair iron
You have learned much already - you'll do fine.
sturdy shadow
Döner is good for you tho
sturdy shadow
Remember:
As an old person, you have to shout "MITTAGSRUHE!" out of your window for everything that makes noise
glossy sparrow
@sharp hound You mentioned in #introductions cs. Do you mean Csound with that?
rapid tiger
@glossy sparrow I believe he means Computer Science.
glossy sparrow
ah sure
quasi merlin
Eierschalensollbruchstellenverursacher
runic rain
Liar! Sowas gibt es nicht
quasi merlin
Und ob es das gibt
hushed bough
Ich habe gewusst, es war falsch
quasi merlin
Eier-schalen-soll-bruchstellen-verursacher
pine ginkgo
mikah-dorf-kind-identifikator-protokoll
hushed bough
I was saying I tried to read it and died, sorry if that didn't come out right. I don't want any of you to die ♥
Es war nur ein Witz
twilit garden
sudden panther
No, but some totally deserve it.
See: Bosnia in 2004 (Ithink.youllknowwhenyouseeit)
cringes
slender oyster
oy vei
hot cloak
Hey guys I need some help with rubbish disposal. How does it work here in Dortmund? I think it's the same for all the towns around Essen but...
So:
- are the bins always out and we just have to put the right kind of stuff in the right bin?
- are these colours right? Grey for general, yellow for various containers, blue for paper, brown for bio stuff?
- where do we put plastics? And what about glass?
plastics go in yellow
glass can either go in black or there should be special "glascontainer" where you can sort by color (green/brown/white)
but you shouldn't use them after 22:00 or on sundays/holidays
this is a germany-wide system so at least if you ever move you won't have to relearn it
batteries can be recycled in any store that sells them
twilit garden
sometimes the colours are a bit different though - my paper bin is green
hot cloak
small appliances etc can be thrown away usually in your local rathaus
ah really? weird
quasi merlin
Mine is green too
hot cloak
everywhere i've been it was always the same
quasi merlin
And our plastic doesn't go in bins here.
hot cloak
where does it go?
quasi merlin
Gelber Sack
hot cloak
yeah it's the same here except some people have a matching tonne
twilit garden
or just completely yellow
hot cloak
lots of people throw the gelbe säcke in the tonne
twilit garden
yes, but you're not supposed to do that
hot cloak
yeah my neighbors are also morons
twilit garden
you can always just put a "Gelber Sack" next to the Tonne
hot cloak
the kind of people who throw literally everything in the restmüll without sorting it
enrages me
all the ausländer in our building do it correctly, the germans don't bother reeeeee
hot cloak
wat
lilac dew
idk it's the german verb to throw shade
hot cloak
was haben wir dir angetan
quasi merlin
ICH OPFERE DICH DEM TODESGOTT
lilac dew
TUN SIE ES MEHR
quasi merlin
BLUT FÜR DEN BLUTGOTT! SCHÄDEL FÜR DEN THRON!
lilac dew
red is the child who was born first
hot cloak
what i'm a idiot lel
quasi merlin
Nah
lilac dew
borne to me
hot cloak
i drove through dortmund twice today
i tried to wave loud enough for brzi to hear it but i dunno if it worked
hot cloak
yeee
hot cloak
zats ze joke
twilit garden
we are doing a Rudelgucken in the voice chat
lost dagger
does one need to get a lerner's permit before a drivers license in californio?
lost dagger
some people have told me it's only if you're under 18
hot cloak
or worked when i was a young riot
lost dagger
and others have said you still need it
lost dagger
i've always been terrified of driving
lost dagger
if you mess up you could end up crashing into a bunch of people
i'm not sure exactly
hot cloak
but if you have control of the car you have a lot more say than being a passenger
being a passenger is being a sitting duck
lost dagger
I guess
I always just take the bus, but last time the driver was making fun of people who ride the bus
it was kind of weird
he spent half an hour talking about how antisocial and sad he was
hot cloak
...the people who keep them in a job? lol
quasi merlin
bus driver
making fun of people who ride the bus
hot cloak
idk i hate riding the bus
quasi merlin
That's some illogical shit
hot cloak
being a free floating sack of meat in a huge vehicle usually piloted by a psycho
lost dagger
but then if it crashes or something you're not at fault
but bus passengers are sometimes weird
lost dagger
yeah
quasi merlin
What kind of bus passengers do you have? :o
hot cloak
fair
lost dagger
well the bus station is downtown and there's a lot of homeless/drifter types
and sometimes they'll just talk non stop
hot cloak
i mean mistakes can be costly, money wise and potentially life-wise
lost dagger
even though nobody's really responding
hot cloak
i watched a lot of people do a lot of stupid shit on the autobahn today
germans are insanely aggressive drivers
saw a guy try to tailgate a guy to bully him into getting out of the left lane
going 160 km/h in the rain
lost dagger
that's ridiculous
hot cloak
so the front car put on his hazards instead of moving over
the back car swung without signaling into the middle lane
at the same time the front car did exactly the same
and i watched them nearly sideswipe each other
people are so stupid
lost dagger
eek
hot cloak
but i watched this all happen from the safety of several hundred yards back in a different lane cause i saw them starting to be stupid and got the fuck away lel
you have a loooot more control about what happens when you're driving and not blindly trusting others
(leave it to the french to be the only ones speaking not-english during point dispersal in eurovision 🙄 )
twilit garden
hey, it was a french contest originally ¯_(ツ)_/¯
crystal delta
Germany 0
just right 👌
crystal delta
lol
sudden panther
Hahaha. Meeeeeeemes.
lost dagger
where do I watch eurovision?
fringe tundra
pls 4chan this
quasi merlin
It's not meant to NOT be cringy.
hot cloak
it's over basically
sudden panther
lost dagger
oh
sudden panther
there's a huge party
hot cloak
Really beating that dead horse.
sudden panther
this is the best part
hot cloak
oooh
sudden panther
and it's over
hollow cloak
Hallo
crystal delta
awww 😦
lost dagger
aw it's not available in the US
fringe tundra
lol
hot cloak
you're not missing anything
fringe tundra
true
lost dagger
Not to fear, VPN is here!
fringe tundra
👌
quasi merlin
Da, Arrem
sudden panther
CAMEL
quasi merlin
Bitte
crystal delta
lol 😄
quasi merlin
xD
lost dagger
it's loaded now
sudden panther
BULGARIA LITERALLY THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT'S NOT ROGGLING
lost dagger
PORRRTUGAL
sudden panther
FOK PORTUGAL
hot cloak
i didnt see a single act/song this year
quasi merlin
PORTUGAL IT'S ENOUGH ALREADY
hot cloak
why are we still calling it eurovision if australia, israel, and azerbaijan are in it?
are we just lying to ourselves?
quasi merlin
Because
hot cloak
that's the fakest background ever tho
fringe tundra
we can
quasi merlin
Why change name?
hot cloak
of the sydney opera
pine ginkgo
Australia are guest actors
pine ginkgo
Also israel is in cause they can't go anywhere else
quasi merlin
Not that it'd matter :p
sudden panther
GERMONY 2 POINTS WTFF ROGGLED
quasi merlin
BARBARA SCHÖNEBERGER
hot cloak
wildcard 😏
lost dagger
hello
sudden panther
TANK BAYS PORTOGOL
hot cloak
95% teef
sudden panther
Though they could have done 12.
quasi merlin
Bulgarian sollte mal mehr Konkurrenz machen!
lost dagger
👍 👍
toxic urchin
This contest is making me cringe hard
crystal delta
as long as Spain sits at the bottom with us it's alright ^_^
sudden panther
camel lets nuke portugal
hot cloak
Sure.
quasi merlin
Bulgaria vs. Portugal, please get more points Bulgaria <.<
lost dagger
i'm chewing this chewing gum and it tastes like black tea
sudden panther
pls bulgaria
crystal delta
OMG
hot cloak
for europe and australia
crystal delta
3 POINTS
quasi merlin
BULGARIA PLS
crystal delta
lol
hot cloak
fuck off israel is not europe
sudden panther
tank irland
quasi merlin
🇧🇬
sudden panther
🇧🇬 🇧🇬 🇧🇬
hot cloak
🇬🇪
lost dagger
🇧🇪
hot cloak
the german dub over this is infuriating
lost dagger
moshi moshi
quasi merlin
Moshi moshi?
lost dagger
I didn't see any of the songs 😦
fringe tundra
🇩🇪 🇧🇪
hot cloak
i didnt either
toxic urchin
these guy's dressing sense is bad
quasi merlin
Yes, but Bulgaria has »generic gay twink«.
hot cloak
you should be able to youtube em snakie
All you need to know is that Bulgaria should win.
lost dagger
oh yeah
sudden panther
Meh. I'm not too impressed with Portugal. dontmurderme
lost dagger
do i get to vote then?
sudden panther
GO BULGARIA
hot cloak
2late
sudden panther
BASED BELARUS
quasi merlin
PORTUGAL ROGGLE
toxic urchin
that lag
crystal delta
Sweaten 😅
pine ginkgo
Yeah, they all should speak french 🤔
quasi merlin
^
hot cloak
katrina and the waves what an unfortunate name now hahaha
lost dagger
haha
hot cloak
In my completely unbiased and objective opinion I agree that Bulgaria should win.
czech republic
czechia!
sudden panther
Yes Croatia, don't give more points to the smelle portugallads.
hot cloak
[a u s g e l ö s t]
sudden panther
2 POINTS
quasi merlin
In my completely unbiased objective and fuck-portugal opinion I agree that Bulgaria should win.
sudden panther
THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD CALL THEM CZECH REPUBLIC
silver panther
sudden panther
So und etz fick ich dich richtig!!! Ich hab niemandem was getan und du gibst mir nur 2 Punkte!!! HAS T HALT LEIDER SELBST NICHTS VORTUWEIßEN AUSSER NE FETTE WAMPE!!! HAB DICH IMMER REPEKTIERT OHNE KOMPROMISSE ODER!!! GIB MIR NUR EINEN GRUND!!! ABER DU PISST MIR OHNE GRUND ANS BEIN. Wie der kleine Bademeister mit gerade mal 2 kilo muskeln aber immer hulk spielen, war doch klar das es klattscht nur ne frage der Zeit. SELBER SCHULD!!! IHR WOLLT SHACKE HANDS DOCH JETZT MÜSST IHR MIT DEN KONSEQUUENZEN LEBEN. FICKT EUCH JETZT HABT IHR DAS TIER IN MIR ENTFACHT UND ICH BIN NICHT ALLEINE. SCHON MAL BULLRIDING GEMACHT? ICH HAB STIEREIER!!! Und etz pass mal uff 70kilo Rasendes Tesrosteron eiergesteuertes, 10% Korperfett und ein einziger muskel der sich nicht mehr von euch PRIVOZIERENDES PAKT STRESSEN LÄSST. FICK EUCH KOMMT DOCH ICH HAB SCHICHT VON 10 SO LANG WIE ICH WILL ALSO 21UHR KOMMT DOCH!!!!! 🇧🇬
crystal delta
urgh Kopiernudeln 😐
lost dagger
are there going to be 42 of these?
silver panther
XD
sudden panther
Hast du mir wirklich 2 Punkte gegeben, du kleiner Hurensohn? Ich warne dich: Ich bin einer der Besten meiner Profession bei den Navy Seals, und ich war an mehreren geheimen Razzien gegen Al-Quaeda beteiligt, und ich habe schon mehr als 300 Leute getötet. Ich wurde in Guerillakriegsführung ausgebildet und bin der beste Scharfschütze in der ganzen US-Armee. Für mich bist du nichts als ein weiteres Ziel. Ich werde dich mit einer Präzision vernichten, die die Welt noch nie zuvor gesehen hat, merke dir das. Denkst du, du kommst davon, mit der ganzen Scheiße, die du im Internet über mich erzählt hast? Denk noch mal nach, Wichser. Während wir uns unterhalten, kontaktiere ich mein geheimes Spionagenetzwerk in den USA und deine IP wird gerade zurückverfolgt, also sei bereit für einen Sturm, du Made. Einen Sturm, der das kleine, mitleiderregende Ding auslöscht, dass du dein Leben nennst. Du bist verdammt noch mal tot, Junge. Ich kann jederzeit überall sein und dich auf mehr als 700 verschiedene Arten umbringen – und das nur mit bloßen Händen. Ich wurde nicht nur intensiv im waffenlosen Kampf trainiert, ich habe auch Zugang zum gesamten Waffenarsenal der Marine der Vereinigten Staaten und werde es komplett dazu benutzen, deinen bemittleidenswerten Arsch von diesem Kontinent zu fegen, du Stück Scheisse. Wenn du nur gewusst hättest, was für Folgen dein kleiner, “cleverer” Kommentar für dich hat, hättest du vielleicht deine verdammte Fresse gehalten. Aber das konntest du nicht, und das hast du nicht, und dafür wirst du jetzt bezahlen, du gottverdammter Idiot. Ich werde in meiner Wut auf dich scheissen und du wirst darin ertrinken. Du bist verdammt nochmal tot, Junge. 🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬
WOW
pine ginkgo
Hab die 12 gesehen
hot cloak
are the hosts standing in a toilet?
sudden panther
RIGGED TELEVOTING
pine ginkgo
Daumen runter
silver panther
na
sudden panther
TELEROGGLING PLS
lost dagger
how can they not vote for bulgaria
silver panther
quasi merlin
BULGARIA YOU FAILED ME
quasi merlin
I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER PORTUGAL'S SONG
hot cloak
😢
silver panther
meh
quasi merlin
🇧🇬 😢
safe yacht
So glad Bulgaria didn't win 😄
quasi merlin
Banned
safe yacht
It's ok, just banter, right? 😃
hot cloak
yeah
safe yacht
But really, I thought it was very generic. Maybe not as much as some others, but...
hot cloak
I found them all generic, I'm just obligated by blood to support my country.
runic rain
Habe nach dem lied einen ohrwurm von moon river
fair iron
There was only one song I found worse than Portugal's, and that was that of Spain.
runic rain
Belgien war beschde
lost dagger
spargel ❤
fair iron
Interesting year as always, though ^^
runic rain
Vielleicht hat belgien von deutschland auch 10 punkte bekommen wegen des Lenaeffektes
fair iron
Belgien hat mich nicht so überzeugt.
quasi merlin
Spain's song was soo bad
fair iron
^
crystal delta
still hoping that more countries sing in their language next time 😮
hot cloak
Hey, Bulgaria didn't lose. That's like the best score we ever got...I still can't believe the support we got both from juries and other europeans
We should've won.
fair iron
I really enjoyed France's song, if I'm honest.
crystal delta
Bulgaria was a good song c: Portugal hit the emotional nerve of most of the people I guess ^_^
Belgium's singer had a nice voice but... ehh
if everyone sings in english, it gets boring for me 😦
fair iron
Romania's "Yodel It!" was surprisingly catchy ^^
sudden panther
Now that I hear Portugal's song again
I still don't like it very much(bearbeitet)
NOW MIKA KNOWS WOT EES TALKING BOUT
hot cloak
That's why I wanted Belarus to win
fair iron
But I agree - always hearing English gets boring.
safe yacht
I loved Belarus
crystal delta
yeah 😐
hot cloak
Belarus, Bulgaria and Moldova was my top 3
quasi merlin
But France sang in French, right?
hot cloak
at least Moldova did really good
fair iron
Mine was:
1. France
2. Romania
3. Azerbaijan
crystal delta
France sang in Frenglish
crystal delta
most of it was French, the refrainw as english
fair iron
I quite liked it.
crystal delta
idk that makes it so awkward
opal sequoia
How was Australia?
fair iron
Not bad
crystal delta
if you already sing 90% in french then maybe keep the refrain in french too (?)
fair iron
One of the better ones, I thought.
lost dagger
australia isn't europe though 😦
opal sequoia
😦
crystal delta
Today it is 😛
lost dagger
they're south america or something
sudden panther
Croatia knows where it's at. Those random bits of Italian out of nowhere. 👌
fair iron
😄
@crystal delta Yeah - there's too much effort to appeal to an English audience. It's somewhat tiring.
Some of my favourite Eurovision songs aren't in English.
crystal delta
^^^^^^^^^^
lost dagger
this is the only non english eurovision song I know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cv9NIzGmSI
crystal delta
I hear english songs nearly everyday, for something like Eurovision I'd love to hear different music for once
lost dagger
it's so good
twilit garden
elle l'a elle l'a
Qu'est-ce qu'elle a?
opal sequoia
😔
hot cloak
Assuming people come with the intention to win, non-romance/English languages don't really have mass appeal.
But yeah it'd be cool to hear them.
twilit garden
they could introduce something like "at least one verse needs to be in the native language"
fair iron
Two of my recent favourites:
De La Capat by Voltaj - Romania 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZF8jCgUQFI
Adio by Knez - Montenegro 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4giAO-2aICo
sudden panther
New plan: Make all the songs in German.
twilit garden
Germanovision
sudden panther
And send 🔥🐫 to represent Bulgaria and we'll all vote for her.
twilit garden
Lucy Diakovska (No Angels) will represent Bulgaria
quasi merlin
Make every country sing in every language 42*42 songs, yay
hot cloak
I can't sing.
fair iron
Brilliant, Len!
sudden panther
And send Juan to represent Mexico Spain Columbia Colombia, and we'll spread rumors that he's racist and he'll lose, ha!
quasi merlin
1764 songs
opal sequoia
They should just have a random draw for which language to sing.
Everyone's native language goes in a hat.
fair iron
Also: I don't know how to feel about this having been Israel's last year.
I don't know any of their songs, but it feels strange knowing I won't see them again.
sudden panther
Shh Caramel, singing isn't important, you just have to be a huge werido and you'll win.
hot cloak
That I already do.
mystic oxide
"Today, everyone will be singing in English, but with a Glaswegian accent!"
sudden panther
Haha! Well there ye have it! 🎉
fair iron
Anyway:
Goodbye Israel, it's been fun. 👋
sudden panther
Wat?
twilit garden
their participating broadcasting union got dissolved
fair iron
^
The Israel Broadcasting Authority has been a member since '57. As a result, they can stream Eurovision and the FIFA World Cup.
A new broadcaster might be able to join Eurovision - it's just unsure right now.
twilit garden
their moderators got the news 2 hours before their last show
sudden panther
Lol why?
fair iron
The Government wants to replace it.
More specifically, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Their longest running TV news program has also aired its last stream.
After 49 years of existing.
sudden panther
Wot a sille cunt.
lilac dew
me
lost dagger
dry lynx
@hot cloak @quasi merlin if I win one of my next 2 games, I'm diamond
sudden panther
^^
hot cloak
@dry lynx the fuck are your builds
dry lynx
?
hot cloak
what is that botrk every game
dry lynx
the only thing you should be building
dry lynx
it's to make the early/mid game a bit better
hot cloak
well I just played a game and the enemy cait didn't build it
so I guess I didn't miss out on too much
dry lynx
if I were to play cait, I'd probably build it
btw, I was playing vs a cait the other day, we won the game and shen then told me that I don't know how to play ADC, that I only know how to play Jinx
she said "I can play every adc, but cait is my best"
"but you still lost" :3
sudden panther
Booo.
sudden panther
talk to me when yuo diamond vi
dry lynx
soon
fair iron
That's the spirit!
dry lynx
#roadtomasters
dry lynx
54 lp at the moment
last game tho, gotta show u some stats
which made me go :"rito y?"
seems normal, but wait
what's this?
the enemy brand was 1/10?
shy bobcat
@twilit garden hey I have a bit of an interesting question.
So, a user named Sumericus who is on several other language Discords is trying to collect every single language and decently-documented dialect’s translation of “I am twelve years old and what is this?”. They already have Schwiizerdütsch and Boarisch as well as a couple other German dialects, and so I thought I’d ask, since you seem to know Kölsch, what’d it look like op Kölsch? I tried to translate it, and got »Ich ben zwölef Johre ald un wat es dat hee?« based on Kasalla/Klüngelköpp lyrics and lots of Googling (lol 😄 ) and the German translation in Sum’s document (Ich bin zwölf Jahre alt und was ist das hier?) but I thought I’d confirm rather than send wrong translations.
twilit garden
looks good to me 😄
shy bobcat
doc for proof lol https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wNsidxxONvzG6TguoPP3GtYaBJtmClcQFsJa9umudJY/edit
just so you don’t think I’m just insane 😉
thx btw
😄
so what’s been going on lol
jaunty vine
@shy bobcat You seem to be missing lojban, would you like a translation of it from me?
shy bobcat
It’s not my doc but I’ll send it to Sum 😉
jaunty vine
Also, I think the Swedish would sound better with "jag är tolv år gammal"
shy bobcat
what’ve we got written there?
jaunty vine
Jag är tolv år och vad är det här
shy bobcat
I swear I wrote “tolv år gammal” Sum been doing some editing :/
(I wrote pretty much all the Scandinavian ones lol)
anyway, bring forth the Lojban 😄
jaunty vine
.i mi nanca li pare .ije ti me ma
shy bobcat
dankeschön
shy bobcat
what question mark?
jaunty vine
I mean, it was intentional to not add one
shy bobcat
oh ok
dry lynx
Ask him and pm me if he wants it, I'll write them to you then
hot cloak
Ok so
I'm already having problems with German bureaucracy
Apparently to get a job I need a bank account, to get a bank account I need a German address, to get a German address I need a bank account
Wtf should I do first?
lost dagger
oh dang
my bank account got shut down because I accidentally entered my social security number wrong
twilit garden
I woul get the address first, so they know that you're gemeldet in Germany
opal sequoia
Can you use someone else's address and then change it later?
hot cloak
Yeah but don't they ask for a bank account to get the rent?
Should I just use my temporary address where I'm currently staying and then change it later?
What if they send stuff here and it arrives once I'm no longer here?
Use your temp address and note that you're going to move in the future. Having an address in the first place is far more important
I see
twilit garden
you can go to the Post and tell them that they should send anything addressed to you to a new address - i did the same when i moved because it gives you time to notify everyone
sturdy shadow
You know we're here to help
hot cloak
What do you guys think of 1822direkt?
twilit garden
what is that?
hot cloak
an online bank apparently
twilit garden
ah a bank - i have never heard of it before tbh
hot cloak
No monthly fee if you get at least one incoming transaction per month, apparently
hot cloak
Anyway will I be able to just give them my temporary address or will I have to go to the bürgeramt and register it first?
lavish saddle
Impossible
There are 2 different types of anmeldung formulas
One where a family signs that you can stay with them
the other where the vermieter signs that you're renting the place
You will probably have to register yourself no matter what
twilit garden
until you are registered here you are bascially just a tourist here and you have no option of opening or using anything as a person living here
hot cloak
Yeah but how do I register the address I'm renting if I can't rent without an account, for which I need an address?
lavish saddle
Some places are chill and say you can take the stuff to them after you're situated more, but you'd have to ask them
Where are you staying now then?
My bank was chill about the anmeldung
They said I can just bring it to them later
hot cloak
A place I rented through air bnb
lavish saddle
(Like I said, just gotta ask them ((first explain)) and they might be cool about it)
hot cloak
Hmm
lavish saddle
They just wanna know where to track you down if you go into debt
hot cloak
What if they're not cool
twilit garden
Sparkasse is a kind of standard bank in Germany
hot cloak
Yeah there is one some 200mt away
lavish saddle
Just tell them you need it to get a place to then register yourself
But make sure you give them your adress for the time being
twilit garden
the one that Brzrkr suggested works together with them though
so you could use all the Geldautomaten from them
hot cloak
The 1822 you mean? Will I be able to do that before the anmeldung though
comdirekt is a pretty good online bank
never heard of 1822
sparkasse is garbage though
they work in "kreise" and if you make an account in a dortmund sparkasse you have to be physically present in dortmund to close it or change it
i learned this when i opened a Sparkasse Düsseldorf account and moved to Wülfrath
where it's Kreis Düsseldorf
Ouch
not the same and you can't do shit
twilit garden
Sparkasse is for people who have lived here all their lives and got their account from their parents
hot cloak
someone opened a bank account illegally in bochum in my husband's name and we couldn't do anything about it without traveling to bochum
Lol
it was pure insanity
twilit garden
https://www.sympat.me/de/wie-deutschland-anmelden/
#3 Muss ich meinen Wohnsitz anmelden, wenn ich in einer Zwischenmiete oder überall nur kurz wohne?
Wenn du in einer Jugendherberge/Hostel, Hotel oder etwas Ähnlichem hausierst, dann musst du dich nicht anmelden. Eine Grauzone stellt das AirBnB dar, dass ja eigentlich in Deutschland auch verboten ist. Als Übergangslösung bis man eine eigene Wohnung gefunden hat, stellen diese Portale oft eine gute Lösung dar.
Für die Anmeldung braucht man ja einen Mietvertrag. Den bekommst du natürlich nicht in einem Hotel oder bei AirBnB. Daher kannst du das auch nicht als Wohnsitz anmelden. Für einen Wohnsitz brauchst du irgendeine Bleibe, bei der dein Name an der Hausklingel steht und du einen Mietvertrag hast.
Also, um es kurz zu fassen: Wenn du von Hotel zu Hotel reist, KANNST du dich gar nicht anmelden. Und solange deine Aufenthaltsdauer weniger als 3 Monate beträgt, musst du das ja auch nicht. Wenn du länger bleibst, solltest du dich theoretisch anmelden. Aber natürlich ist das gar nicht so einfach, wenn man nichts Permanentes findet...
twilit garden
couldn't you open a bank account with your temporary address and then notify the bank over your permanent residence?
hot cloak
not as a non DE citizen probably
banks are very very unkind to non citizens
especially so to americans but i can't imagine they're much nicer to italians
lavish saddle
All the banks are like that in Austria
hot cloak
so how the everloving fuck does one immigrate in Germany then
because americans require much more paperwork
you find an apartment first? haha
twilit garden
http://www.kontofinder.de/ratgeber/girokonto-fuer-auslaender
this seems to be a step-by-step guide for opening a bank account as a non-citizen
hot cloak
before moving
lavish saddle
You can't withdraw over 200 euro from a sparkasse/raffiesen that isn't the one you signed up at
hot cloak
lol
lavish saddle
Can't do anything about them
twilit garden
Sie kommen aus einem EU-Land: Seit 19. Juni 2016 gibt es das Basiskonto. Dieses Girokonto für Jedermann kann jeder Verbraucher eröffnen, der sich rechtmäßig in der EU aufhält. Die Banken sind gesetzlich zur Eröffnung des Basiskontos verpflichtet. Sie brauchen in diesem Fall keine speziellen Ausweispapiere.und haben als EU-Bürger freien Zugang auf den deutschen Arbeitsmarkt.
Raiffeisen
hot cloak
ah yeah they declared bank accounts a human right
lavish saddle
**raiffeisen
hot cloak
long after i'd been turned down by every bank imaginable
twilit garden
Volksbanken - Raiffeisenbanken
hot cloak
ah
hot cloak
why
how long is your airBnB for brzi?
Till 22
oh fuck
What
that is not rly enough time to secure a mietvertrag probably
lavish saddle
It took me a week and a half for the mietvertrag to be made
hot cloak
I'll find a way to lengthen it if needed, that's not the biggest problem I feel
that's if you find a place and get chosen as a foreigner with no income
which probably not
and you have no SCHUFA
i didn't realize this was as time sensitive
what kind of place are you guys looking for? like size/viertel/price
lost dagger
what city?
hot cloak
dortmund i guess
No more than 600€ or thereabouts
warm i assume
any preference on where?
At this point, not really. Nrw and somewhere close to connections
oh not even necessarily in dortmund?
dortmund is cheap as hell tho
Preferably
you can get pretty central apartments for cheeeeap
But not necessarily if it ends up problematic
http://www.immobilienscout24.de/expose/89800883 "ideal für ein studentenpärchen"
449€ kalt
584€ warm, 55 q m
comes with a kitchen installed which is a godsend unless you have 3k you want to spend on just building a kitchen
make sure on sites you're checking that its only searching for places with an einbauküche
lost dagger
do people ever steal kitchens?
lost dagger
oh yeah that makese sense
hot cloak
deposit is usually 2 months rent of whatever
Tbh I'd prefer it möbiliert
ahh yeah
I don't think I have the money to buy everything
yeah apartments are so much money
theyre like a black hole you just chuck money down
The one you linked looks like it has furniture from the photos but there no mention either way in the text
thats almost certainly the furniture of the former tenant
I have some options saved up that I looked up yesterday that should all be furnished
ah nice
But this having to have a thing in order to have a thing to have a thing is driving me insane
welcome to bürokratie
it's a series of ridiculous gatekeeping
twilit garden
Your experience should not be as bad as riots though because of EU
hot cloak
I can deal with general nonsense but this is circular, there's no way into the circle
yeah it's a teufelskreis
Yeah I expect that to be true, but I still am unsure af
i think your best move right now is to open a basiskonto somewhere
and then try to secure a mietvertrag ASAP
then take these things to get angemeldet
twilit garden
is it really necessary to have a German bank account? Shouldn't you be able to do it with an italian one?
hot cloak
Because I'm not even confident enough about my German to be able to explain everything properly when needed, like in the bank etc
yeah banks will not speak english with you
even if they can
they are usually barred from it
i had to enlist german friends to come with me
Wow ok
bank employee english is bad enough that it becomes a legal liability for them
(what if they misrepresent something/tell you wrong?)
Do I have to feel bad if I hold them for a long time because I occasionally look for words on the phone lol
nah
selber schuld for them tbh
Good
So basis konto then rent then job
Then better konto
yeah im concerned you wont be able to find a mietvertrag without income
because most vermieter are gonna insta-turn you away without being arbeitstätig
But I also can't go back to Italy before I get a job/rent because I need to be physically present to do that
Brilliant
glossy quail
sudden panther
No, that would be ikdachthetniet. Berzi is in Deutschland, though.
hot cloak
Yeah I'm in deutschland
And I was loving it but my life is currently on hold until I solve all these problems
can i ask you something
My love*, not my life lol. Although I suppose that's also true
I sense some embarrassing situation incoming but sure, ask away
did you organize any of this from italy before leaving?
or did you just save up for plane tix and find an air b&b and hope for the best?
sudden panther
One day Berzi was like "Man I'm sick of all this pasta. I could use some Wurst and Bier." And then he came to Germany. 🎉
hot cloak
Fifty fifty. I did research for something like two months but everywhere I looked said that I had to be here to solve things
most people find jobs before moving i think
if they've got permission to work
Most people have a resume full of stuff
that is entirely untrue lel
And apparently I need a German account and address to work here so
well you use the arbeitsvertrag to secure the rest of it
because thats the gatekeeper for a lot of it
Also setting up all this shit to life here and find rent is pretty time consuming, I'd prefer finding a job later so I don't have to commit suicide for the stress
¯_(ツ)_/¯ just asking based on my experience moving to germany twice
I'm pretty stressed already, imagine if I also had to work
Yeah I'm not dismissing you
pseudo vortex
For me being a real estate agent
I can tell you that I need some proof of income and a schufa-auskunft before I give away flats
hot cloak
yup
hot cloak
you're a makler?
hot cloak
aha
pseudo vortex
But like... I exclusively act when it comes to my boss's property
hot cloak
yeah i couldn't get anything done here without my now-husband when i first came
because i had no SCHUFA built up
my credit in the US is pristine and very good but that doesn't mean shit in the EU
I've read somewhere that they might allow you not to need the schufa if you explain that you just immigrated
And you'll be able to submit it later on
didn't work for me trying to get a phone
You need the schufa to get a phone?
a contract
lost dagger
I think so
pine ginkgo
spiegel.de is a bit less "legit" tho
hot cloak
you're thinking of spiegel online
pine ginkgo
spiegel.de is spiegel online
hot cloak
you can see on the graph^
der spiegel is in the green bubble up top, spiegel ONLINE is in the bottom blue one
what i linked is the normal version of Der Spiegel
lost dagger
Is there a color code?
hot cloak
👍
lost dagger
And what's the difference between good Spiegel and shoddy Spiegel?
hot cloak
Der Spiegel is pretty respected i think
pine ginkgo
yeah
hot cloak
spiegel online gets a lot of flak
hot cloak
its better journalism
i would also recommend die Zeit
or FAZ
i also read Süddeutsche Zeitung
all in the green bubble up top
pine ginkgo
don't read taz tho lul
hot cloak
ah süddeutsche is slightly lower
Süddeutsche is leftish
FAZ is rightish
die Zeit is like smack in the middle
np
hot cloak
süddeutsche does local news for southern DE but they report on all kinds of stuff
FAZ is also not just Frankfurt
hot cloak
Where does dw stand?
toxic urchin
heat a spoon by running hot water over it and put it on where the mosquito bit you
or boil your leg
opal sequoia
You can also try removing the leg.
opal sequoia
You've got hands. Use them.
hot cloak
So I've tried opening a free girokonto on ing diba and it says I can't do it because I have no monthly income, but aren't they obliged by law not to discriminate by income?
i dont even know
Why does everything even need a German account? Wtf germany
sturdy shadow
Money laundering
hot cloak
^^^^^^
sturdy shadow
I had a girokonto when i was 14 tho
hot cloak
did you ask about the basiskonto/konto für jedermann?
sturdy shadow
And had no income
sturdy shadow
Prolly yeah
hot cloak
honestly it sounds like you need to take a german with you to the bank to force the issue
ive found people treat me 100% differently since my german got verhandlungssicher
Darf die Bank auch Kunden ablehnen?
Ja, aus einem der folgenden Gründe darf die Bank Kunden ablehnen:
- Sie besitzen bereits bei einem anderen Kreditinstitut ein Konto.
- Sie haben sich gegenüber der Bank strafbar gemacht.
- Es besteht noch ein Zahlungsverzug aus einem früheren Vertrag.
i assume none of that is the case for you so i think they shouldnt reject you
https://www.comdirect.de/cms/basiskonto.html try this brzi
i just realized though that the banks want an address so they can send you the card and PIN :\
hot cloak
Yeah I got there and was just about to ask
If I input my actual address won't they send the card in Italy?
yeah probably
So what happens if I use the address of the place I'm staying at
it won't be delivered to you
because your name isnt on the mail box
And I definitely don't have the time to get it delivered in Italy and resent here
So I guess what I should ask now is, is anyone here willing to accompany us to a bank to get this shit sorted out? In exchange you get to meet berzi and his bf
Also probably I'll offer you a beer or two for the trouble
i theoretically have time, being highly unemployed
Is that a yes? :D
It's so embarrassing having to ask for this, I feel like an idiot
no dude its not a problem
i dont want to force myself into a situation if you dont want to meet some stranger from the interbutt, lol
i straight up made german friends online and enlisted them to help me when i got here
Oh no that's definitely not a problem for me
My problem is having to inconvenience people for my lack of knowledge or organisation
i dont mind
:D
I'm wondering if there's anything else I wouldn't be able to solve without "inside help" besides the bank account
dude its ridiculous
if my syrian refugee friends managed this, certainly an EU citizen should be able to
do you have a preferred bank you wanna do this at?
Lol that's why I feel bad
There's nothing to feel bad about
oh they didnt do it alone lol
I was going to do it via an online bank but since I have no guarantee I'll get the card in time...
You probably would've done the same if someone were to move to Italy
any bank is gonna send card via mail tho
Yeah that's true but still it doesn't mean I don't feel bad for using people
yeah since i needed so much help the first few months i try to pay forward
Hmm
youre not tricking me into helping
its freiwillig
is it 👀
just kidding
lol
😱
I gotcha now :^)
erwischt!
but yeah, dont feel bad about it
Ok so if they're going to send it via mail anyway does that mean I'm fucked either way? xD
They normally require a fester Wohnsitz
im thinking tho
they dont know you arent angemeldet there
do you know whose name is on the mailbox and you said you can extend the air B&B?
Yeah I know the name on the doorbell but on the form there's not enough space to write it
there should be a second address line where you can put z.H. Name on Box
and it should deliver anyway
^
thats what i did as an au pair
since my name wasnt on the house mailbox
In the form for the basiskonto it asks for my wohnhaft, I don't think I'm supposed to put in the temporary address I'm currently living at
And there doesn't seem to be any other form
do you mind telling me which bank you're using
I could take a look at their online form
or PM me
sudden panther
Can you not tell them that you want to pick up your card at the bank?