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so in the beginning i brought up the fact that some mods have been rude to me on here which is why i said what you just quoted
and i believe it was you who said "that means you wont ever be a mod" which was insulting. and i dont think i have to explain why.
it was pretty obvious you meant to say that as a way to hurt me
if that was you of course
and there have been other instances, but the dialogue in this channel has overflowed since my last suggestions and i dont feel like scrolling to find everything
me saying this is a way to inform you of the situation, what you decide to do with that is on you
and this isnt just me whining, there have been others I have talked to on here who dont think the mods on here are friendly. theyve used harsher terms but i wont repeat them lol
some mods**
tbf, you won't find a server online where people aren't complaining about the mods
actually you should encourage them to offer criticism
it's about as certain as the sun rising in the east
without being rude ofc
okay ill take you up on that
agreed with syro btw, it certainly has a different impact when you hear others' voices too. I can't say I've seen much (if any) complaining about the mods here except for this very conversation, but I'm not in calls a lot
right
ive heard from others that they think the mods arent very competent (ofc they didnt use those words). and im generalizing because they did so.
particularly there was one guy that was annoyed with the fact that when he @'d a mod it would take forever for someone to show up
all of them// and my response to that is if that is going to be the excuse not to do your job very well, maybe you should consider hiring someone else
not meaning to be mean but practical
I don't know how their internal buerocracy works but from experience, mod teams above about 7 members become hard to manage
you end up getting bogged down in buerocracy no matter how you try to handle it
at least every way our server tried to ended up that way, in the end we just cut the team down to 7 (from about 10) and now it's fine
mm, i cant speak on that because i have no idea how that stuff works lol
they have a two layer administration here tho and I don't know the internal workings of that
we tried that too
you keep saying we are you not a mod fr?
there are other discord servers
I have about three years of modding experience on a medium sized but very active server
ohh okay so you are a mod in other servers. thought you just knew about it from researching, etc
thats cool
I also moderate a 20k subscribers subreddit, which again, isn't big but it's not nothing either
i was in a very large server and they had like 10 mods and only about 5 were very active
ofc there were admins as well and only 2 were really active
and thats pretty sweet
(going to sleep now bye)
gute Nacht~
I gotta admit having a mod in another timezone is really needed rn tho. Since all of them are in +2 and some aren’t very active anymore (or at all).
well rn they're all in +1
We are working on that, and a few other things as well. For me personally it's a bit hard to stay motivated with only 2 to 4 (at best) people working on it, so things have admittedly been slow. Still, I realize it's a silly reason and will do my best to get things going again.
1 and 2 are almost the same anyways 
Yeah, maybe you should ask others if they still want to be mods?
One slot is even free rn. 👀
👀
@gritty geyser mods don't have lives stfu
Well slots have never really been a thing, we just go by how many mods we think are needed. We'll sort things out.
Hopefully we'll finish the user survey soon and let that run for a bit, then use the feedback to freshen up info and the rules, then get a mod or two.
The survey's almost done anyway so that shouldn't take long.
🤔 are there many active non-eu folk anyway?
Base and krypti
Ohye
I'm still drunk and am on four hours sleep
Good luck
Oh suzie did you go to Edinburgh for a party as well?
Yeah, i was stalking you there
Stupit callum I thought he'd grow a brain at uni but he's now an even stupiter drinkman.
I would meme with you but we’re in #suggestions 😔
good point
^
user survey? 🤔
We've discussed it briefly before.
A "what do you think do you like us what do you want changed please thanks" thing.
do you like us
Fooking no who would like you memes 😒😒😒
what do you want changed
The mods
Is it anonymous?
Of course, but we'll get rid of any meme entries.
When do you think it will be done?
Well if you yell at us enough it could be done in a few days. 
FOKIN aRROM JUST FINNISH 🇫🇮 THE ÞING
@sand bramble WTF ARREM WE DEMAND THE SURVEY NOW!!!!!!!!!
Suggestion : Music bot Channel?(:
👀 wdym inactive the only mod on this server is Arrem

Bik thonk
Ban Umu.
We'll discuss the matter internally and ask them if they plan to come back or leave in favor of someone more active. Ideally, the new moderation guideline will be a bit more strict about inactivity.
Wormic is there for memes
Wormic uses this server to pick up chicks because otherwise I have no idea why he's here
Even more berzi
I think he was there the last time I was in voicechat lol
Yeah he joins a voicechat once every 2 months but that's it
Thats like before the dinosaurs era, berzi
t-berz noises
the bot can be summoned to the afk channel.
I'll fix it soon edit: fixed
suggestion: make the bot show more detailed compliation errors when it fails with latex
Latex rendering failed: Argument of \align* has an extra }.
Good nul
Can we get
on
just like on 
why must people crave unsightly things
What about a "German in the wild" channel where members can share photos of stuff they find irl that is in German? Even just stuff like item packages, signs and other text that could give mundane vocabulary or be simply cool or interesting to see
I feel lik ehter’s simply not enough of that and #archived-media
also it’d just be memes aka people living in germany showing photos of surprisingly german stuff
We need a German food channel
We need a German food channel
Finally a good suggestion, Essen über alles!
Great idea. I saw some German in the wild just now.
Oh wow now I'm hearing German in the wild as well. Maybe make a voice channel too.
How tf can you make memes on your phone you memey memeboy.
Screenshot -> Zoom -> Crop -> Upload
Works thanks. +1
so "a meme" == "a zoomed photo" nowadays? 😮 😄
I wonder if I've been on the same train as Senpaii >~<
I'm gonna apologize if this has been suggested before, but how about a random word function for the bot
Like an automatic pferd that can be accessed while he's sleeping
Anyone can make contributions like to the faq, it's more accessible to contribute for early learners
Would be nice to hear thoughts ab it
With something like that you'd have varying levels of vocab
Of course, but in my opinion all new vocab is good vocab
We've had a shitton of word of the day suggestions yeah, kinda scared me to ask
Would this be different than what pferd does atm?
I'm against a word of the day feature but in favour of a pferd-like command
Perhaps u can make the vocab it gives dependent on the cefr role the person asking has?
It would be difficult to judge that though
I don't know if it would be different because it depends on what everyone else would like to see from it
The idea in my head was
randomword
Bot @user: Wirtschaft - [noun] [fem] economy
Maybe a link to duden, dictleo, dict cc
It certainly sounds interesting. The functionality and usefulness of this feature would heavily rely on the community though
Yeah of course
But it only improves over time and as I said, it's a lot more accessible to contribute to for any level
One big problem is the approval of entries
Someone is going to have to look over every word and entry and it would be a pain in the ass unless it's a shared responsibility people were willing to undertake
It's one big flaw
well the faqs are created by the community as well
if you find some people who wanna do it it should be okay i guess
It should be a reasonable size since otherwise it runs into the same problems as to why wotd would never work
You could try something like, for each level, just add all the words that are officially required for that level's test.
But the problem is finding people who would want to check consistently
That's also a good idea base
Then you can have the command for those level vocab lists. Like >randomword A2
i'd do it 🤗
Base so smort
Words outside the specification would be more difficult though and might need more work which is discouraging sadly
If you put it into level a,b,c like the server instead of specifics like a1,2b1,2 I think it would be better
But of course my opinion doesn't have to be the right option for this
i agree, we don't need super precise levels, it would also get in the way of categorising words correctly
But the levels of the server are not the same as the levels of the official tests.
You actually do need different vocab requirements. The official lists are different.
If you're going to implement that feature at all, it should be accurate for people studying for the tests.
I wanna say in case it doesn't feel like it from my answers, thank you for all the replies and suggestions, whatever opinion they represent, it all means a lot
I agree with you base, most people here choose level on feeling
You can also make the command so if someone just puts "A" it includes both level lists and "A1" or so on for a specific, official one.
What about #voice-chat-2? i see people from diff vcs talking over each other lately
an idea: could the bot catch some most frequent mistakes and suggest corrections automatically? e.g. klingt mir -> klingt für mich ? Nothing complicated, a few regexps should do the trick, I think
"a few regexps should do the trick" I see that you have very much experience in coding cough
Depends on what you call "very much experience", but it's my daily job for about ten years...
I don't think making a simple "mistakes catcher" would require much effort. Sure it won't be perfect, but that shouldn't be the goal anyway
It depends on how he handled the command parsing
I asked him once to add something like $$\example$$ which would render some latex. But I've heard that he would need to edit the command parsing etc. And then again, everyone makes different mistakes. You would need quite a lot of regexps to cover all of the mistakes, and people may not need a bot continuously looking and catching their mistakes.
If you then would like to disable that for certain people you would need to add a whole config system which is just unnecessary
I am p sure that there a lot of nice natives who are willing to catch and mention those mistakes
a lot of nice natives
yeah like 5
I hope you're not counting yourself 👀
I was making the mistake with klingt mir for a very long time and only today it has been caught & corrected by the nice natives here
i swear germans have a kink for correcting grammar mistakes lol
if by "kink" you mean that they do it only in private and after getting consent - then you're right
you don't need a native to correct mistakes
you need to somehow find out that you make a particular mistake. natives here are one way. finding it out yourself somehow is another. a suggestion above by me, would be yet another
my usual way is to doubt myself at each and every step
makes me slow, but it lets me explore the most even of those things I tend to take for granted
I only wish I had the memory to only make each mistake once
That's also my way. I obsessively (tja, a bit) cross check my sentences with Google and other places to ensure everything is correct
but anyway, there're mistakes that still sneak through and then it's great when there's someone to correct
it would take such a lot of effort to implement
and sadly both of the mods who can do anything for the bot have uni
I like it, I think its good, however it is an awful lot of work to ask one person to take on
Meh. In theory if you wanted a simple regex based solution, it wouldn't be much work since we pretty much already have the system in place.
Every message is being scanned for the spam filter entries already, the only change for the mistake thing would be making it yell at you instead of deleting your crap (which would admittedly be hilarious, "fuck you have good grammar").
What I'm a bit skeptical about is how many common mistakes you'll be able to catch with a regex bc. some things like cases or word order memes just can't be expressed so that there are no false positives. Also would it be a meme to have a bot yell at you for mistakes?
it wouldn't have to be comprehensive. What you can catch, you catch
Yeah, that's what I meant. To catch the most obvious, simple cases
like "klingt mir"
another possible thing that is easy to catch are dative or genitive prepositions followed by articles like die or das that can never happen
the more comprehensive solution would be to push all the posts through https://languagetool.org/ , but I don't think it makes a lot of sense
LanguageTool is a free proofreading software for English, German, Spanish, Russian, and more than 20 other languages.
i didn't know the site :0
languagetool is bae
although I used their downloadable server
OTOH LT is relatively slow, I am not sure how good will it be with all the messages.
Okay so first of all, "klingt mir" is fine. I'm not sure who told you it's wrong but things like "Das klingt mir nach Ärger" are acceptable. Second of all, imo, a regex based solution that autocorrects mistakes seems quite robotic and barely helps anyone as it can't provide an adequate explanation for why something is wrong
Plus I'd just end up filling it with memes like >correct "0x1" "cowman*"
@gritty geyser no, it was meant as in "das klingt mir falsch"
anyway i'm quite agnostic as to this suggestion myself. I think it could work but it could only be foolproof in limited cases without making a ML model to learn correction to make, which would in turn be a lot of work
yeah, and my suggestion was anyway meant to be limited to the most obvious and common mistakes. Especially since, as Syro described it
"サイロノイドheute um 19:13 Uhr
fast schon einen eintrag wert.. "klingt mir" lese ich gefühlt 100x am tag"
https://i.imgur.com/mGhos5s.png
We can thus conclude that Syro has been here for a day and a half.
qwik maff
LIGHTTHEME 🤢
I feel like with robot corrected mistakes the problem is that it feels kind of impersonal and rude. I don't think it's very positive. 👀
Hello boitemcboiface
i'm sure arrem would be able to make it feel just as if he himself was behind every remark
😄
Fucking facist mod
any music channels ? where one can play german songs to impress the other members of this server of his amazing taste of german music
Wow so you're telling me there's no place for bots here, that's racist
and thanks for the link i understand now
Swap inputs in >lk so it's used as >lk <input language> <output language> <word**s**>
ie >lk de en kleines Würstchen instead of >lk "kleines Würstchen" de en
Good suggestion, done
yeee iḿ not an entire meme
yee
For that extra transparency, how about making the audit logs visible to everyone?
Does this include like, showing the actual messages people have deleted and so on?
Okay, I see.
Why would we want that
I mean, don't get me wrong, but I trust that these mods do their job pretty well
Only thing is that they log literally everything but that's needed for those cases when people to do not keep to the rules
logs are automatic
enabling them to be seen by everyone is pretty trivial and to be honest, I see no reason why it would hurt
Eh. I kinda agree it's not that hard to do, but if mods don't want to, it's up to them.
I don't see us using said openness all that much tbh. I kind of trust mods here tbh.
But, I mean, if it will make life better for some members, Iunno. Ok?
Thank gods for that.
Well, logs also contain things like every invite someone makes, role changes, nickname edits etc. For bans, we already have the >bans command which lets you see the most recent bans. That one could potentially be made public, but idk, we'll see and talk it through. I'm talking non-officially here. 
The ban command would be cool, we’re running out of juicy gossip 
Just get yourself banned and we'll have some more, Suzu.
Brb getting banned
what about voluntary roles for naative speakers as to their region, so that users can always keep in mind where one is from if they notice some antipattern or peculiarity in their way of speaking? Not to mention accent, for what concerns voicechat
I know it would at least motivate myself to enter voicechat sometimes, were I to notice a native speaker of some area I don't know the accent of. But of course it could be useful to others too, even if they're less curious than me when it comes to accents
would be nice if one could add custom emoji and such to usernames
no one ever checks roles anyway
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nobody can say you cant be a mod if you meme too much when you exist
not enough gacha, arem
it should be 10% chance to earn an emoji drop instead
emoji lootboxes
i'm not going to buy any then
Your nickname has been changed to Srk. Enjoy.
that's a nickname of a nickname of a nickname
jokes on you, rrm
Suggestion: wtf fix the bot
Changes are only computed in bulk because inserting JSON is a heavy operation
Sounds likr an excuse 👀
it runs every 60s because it's hooked to the event loop. I don think waiting a minute for these to update is too bad :^)
wtf a minute thats like 60000 milliseconds
Can we pls get a food channel for sharing food pics and recipes?
Food channel!
I'd like it as a subgroup maybe
Heckie wants to keep all the recipes to herself

I’d like a channel with roles like #gaming or #science but anything is fine tbh
Tho subgroups are supposed to be for one-time use so it wouldn’t be good for storing recipes i guess 👀
well, you have to actively end the group with a command so, as long as nobody does that, the group just stays there
Then i dont get why you wouldnt create a channel with lower possibility of accidentally getting deleted
well, creating a permanent channel and role with hints to it in #282831147942281216 is a bigger hassle than just creating a group
^ and it's really really off topic
Tbh, you should hint groups too 
We could write recipes in german 
And how is gaming and science not off topic? 
We are planning on re-doing #282831147942281216 anyway and mentioning groups more is definitely something that we want to do
Since you will be redoing #282831147942281216, adding one sentence about a food channel shouldn’t be too much of a problem 
Gaming and science are off-topic, yes, but they involve such a big part of the community that these channels free a lot of space in the other channels. We don't just create new channels, we only do so if we see a need for it. If you want to found a group and we see 50 people in there sharing german recipes every day then we could still create a channel for it, but as of now i don't see the demand for it. So, if you want a group for it, ask for it, but we don't make big changes like that because of one request.
Problem is that it boils down to the same thing we told that girl who suggested a bunch of random offtopic channels. It's a bit of a meme for us to provide a dedicated channel for every little thing.
I know it depends on the demand, that’s why I won’t accept “being off-topic” as a reason to dismiss this suggestion. 
I just felt like we’ve been sharing food pics and talking about food long enough to make this suggestion but sure.
i kind of agree with Nemo and arrem on this :c
4-5 people talking about food for a few minutes a day is not much tbh
To add to what other mods said: we usually create new channels if topic XYZ literally clutters #general and #general-2 to the extent where others can't have a normal conversation anymore. Back in the days, this was the case for #science and #gaming which is why they were made in the first place. While I enjoy cooking and good food, there's maybe 3-6 people talking about it on and off. Sadly this doesn't warrant for a new channel. If there's more people interested in actively talking about food and sharing recipes, we'll definitely reconsider your proposal. For now, we'll have to turn it down due to lack of interest on a broad scale
I mean a food group will be just fine. I just wanna see and share good recipes without spamming #general too much.
but you can do it in #archived-media or #general-2 too
seems that so far it does not spam allgemein too much, which is why there is no channel :V
OTOH channel bloat would be meh too so I kinda see the point of nemo and oxi
I’m fine with either one, it just ticks me off when the suggestion is dismissed with sth unreasonable like “being off-topic” or “it’s a hassle to write it in #282831147942281216”
it’s a hassle to write it in #282831147942281216
that's not what nemo said thowell, creating a permanent channel and role with hints to it in #info is a bigger hassle than just creating a group
But sth “being a hassle” is not a reason not to do it.
If there aren’t enough people then just say it directly.
nemo isn't the only one who said something
I know. You and arrem said there’s not enough interest so i didn’t comment further
Suggestion: der Server soll einen deutschen Namen haben
DuD
(alle Kanäle übrigens auch, aber das ist nicht so dringend)
it‘s for a school project i swear
my 2 cents:
While I enjoy cooking and good food, there's maybe 3-6 people talking about it on and off. Sadly this doesn't warrant for a new channel. If there's more people interested in actively talking about food and sharing recipes, we'll definitely reconsider your proposal. For now, we'll have to turn it down due to lack of interest on a broad scale
I was once a mod with that exact complaint when prompted about the same thing
my voice was overturned and the channel got very active
and remained so
also role reaction would solve all role issues but idk how hard that is to implement
like, having a message where you can react to to get/remove roles
I know there’s bots with that function but the only one I know of is closed source
thats not too hard
i think it would have been appropriate to ping @_all for the survey in #announcements
message = await bot.get_channel(id).get_message(id)
roles = {'😂': 'id 1', '😭': 'id 2', '❤': id 3'}
msg, reaction = await bot.wait_for('reaction_add', check=lambda m, r: m == message)
role = bot.get_role(roles[reaction.emoji])
await reaction.user.add_roles(role)
there u go
that should work
no that wouldn't work because you have to take runtime cache maintenance into consideration
sure, but that would have been a meme to moderate and without pinging everyone, the people who are active here - the ones who are affected and most credible to make comments - see it
besides that, reaction loops like these time out quite often
actually
make it into an event
@bot.listen()
async def on_reaction_add(msg, reaction):
message = await bot.get_channel(id).get_message(id)
if msg != message: return
roles = {'😂': 'id 1', '😭': 'id 2', '❤': id 3'}
role = bot.get_role(roles[reaction.emoji])
await reaction.user.add_roles(role)
not sure if its actually (msg, reaction) but ig check docs on that
I FORGOT TO MENTION IN THE SURVEY: dont be so fucking scared to ping people, those that leave because of it would've left anyway, and I think its more important that users know of new things because we're usually dumb as fuck and dont realize
^ we have 7k people of which only like 2k at most are active anyways. Who cares if half of the server leaves.
Where's this 2k active? For me this server has at most 20 active users or so
do you count level As as humans?
also: I’m with Nemo on this one
tho if you want to ping everyone anyway, feel free but pls while I’m asleep
Or you could just turn off the notifications instead of making us check when you go to sleep
Also,
do you count level As as humans?
Really isn’t a nice thing to say.
We most likely won't ping everyone for the survey. We'd like genuine responses from people who are active enough to see it themselves and we think that pinging everyone would just bring a lot of people who'd randomly tick some boxes for the heck of it
not about the notifications suzu, it's about the fact that I don't wanna be around when chaos happens
also that was very obvious sarcasm and if you believe I meant that at all seriously you have a rather distorted view of me
Thank you, lovely modteam for your desire to make the community better
💙
Suggestion: a "JUST ASK" emoji to react to "can I ask a question" questions
my Photoshop skills are inadequate to make it happen tho
My proposal
maybe make the lines a bit heavier I feel like this might be hard to read as a reaction
i dont think he was serious lmao
🇯 🇺 🇸 🇹 🇦 5⃣ 🇰
how about with reacting with this instead
in opposition to one emoji, you can actually read it 
idea: two emoji, with Just and Ask on it
math server I’m on has this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/371662163489718273.png?v=1
but then that would be ripping it off :P
We should add a voice channel and text channel for reading practice. A native speaker could give you a paragraph to read in German, and then they could correct your pronunciation. Another server I am on has this. They do it once or twice a week I think.
that’s a thing, they’re temporary groups tho
You can just use any of the VCs for that.
Practice Room would be perfect in fact.
@gritty geyser we already have that, it's called Reading Group
you can subscribe to it via >sub Reading
or something like that
sub Reading
but it doesn't work in this channel
Danke
Wtf they're speaking foreign òwó
while it’s nice to greet people in both german and english, I always feel like twice as many people joined
like in #general rn it looks at first glance as if the bot was greeting four people
I could remove one of the #282831147942281216 mentions if that'd make it better
Suggestion: make the even words English and the odd words German.
dunno if it would, maybe just remove the newline?
so it’s all one thing
rather than looking like two messages
well, that's kind of the nature of translations
I've personally never had that problem, got used to it fast
sadly I gotta agree with sasha, it does look kinda bulky and ugly still
I think it would be better to have it entirely in german personally
Yeah deutsch the greeting ein 👀
But it is terrible to come to a forreign language and not being able to read it at first sight. A high percentage does know English well enough to have the English greeting.
^Yeah that's a good point as well.
Tbh just shorten it to
Hello, welcome, read #282831147942281216 thanks. 😄 | Hallo, willkommen, #282831147942281216 lesen danke 😄
*bitte danke
Please consider changing the color of mode role. It looks very aggressive since we have 6 mods now. Our mod team is very nice and cute 
for me it was always confusing that the mods have "strong" red color, while admins (higher in hierarchy) much less "strong" green...
less stronger
feel free to correct my shitty English as well ;P @atomic pilot
ok
Counter suggestion: send two separate messages for greeting them, pinging them twice. Send each of these messages some random time after joining
how about an english greeting in #general and a german one in #german-only
(not serious)
(well, maybe like 5% serious)
wo kommen eigentlich plötzlich die neuen Mods her? rieche ich hier Nepotismus, dass es keinen Bewerbungsprozess gab?
We've never done applications. We just ask people who the community deems ok and have been here for long enough. In this particular case, people in the general channels and some in the survey have suggested the two mods we've chosen and we've personally felt that they've been here for long enough and know how things work already.
change it to brown
change what to brown
I do agree on not really liking the red; I also still find the mod-admin distinction super weird and pointless
like every server seems to do it and no one's ever been able to explain why
is it a trust thing? surely not, if you didn't trust the mods then you wouldn't have made them mods
so every mod should have access to everything
Make mods green and make admins teal.
teal is too close to "no role" colour
Delete Learning German role.
^
new suggestion: make "no role" colour #ffb3da because its awfully piggy pink
and will humiliate us learners 😩
but then everyone would be white, and it's hard to differentiate between those who have simply left the server
and if everyones white arrem couldnt know what theyre called 
a nice brown colour would look great tbh
god fox is so right
Please don't make admins teal teal is the worst color aaaaaa.
i agree with u hecko
its bc you love me 💁
Keep admins the same color, I could never get used to Arrem not being green
But yeah, brown mods sounds good
I too, like Sascha, see no reason why mods should have two different colours amongst them. Red looks fine to me though
anyone who says otherwise is probably using bright mode 🤢
No I'm not asking about the colors
if there are different roles, they should be differentiated
my question is why there are different roles
And, in the usual fashion, the question is being ignored
as far as I remember, there should actually be no difference between green and red mods, unless that changed
The question is being overlooked, which can of course happen, in which case you're free to ask it again and even ping for attention if needed.
Generally there's no difference. The reason it exists is mostly "if these newer people go rogue, these older people can act immediately without having to wait for the owner".
Now with the new mods, we've taken away manage channels / manage server since we consider those to be the most "dangerous" but will end up switching them back on in a couple of months anyway and then what I said above will hold.
I did ask it before
like, at least twice
so it is a trust thing
except it doesn't actually work, because if one of the new mods was planning on going rogue now they're just gonna wait until you do the aforementioned
Also, manage server was just like, rename server and change voice region, right? That's a permission you want to have someone online to have to they can move the region if discords servers crap out in one region
I think the matter of trust and role divisions in the mod team is their own business, it doesn’t really involve nor affect us members tbh.
Ultimately it is, but it's confusing to at least one member of the server
And if they did go rogue we could still deal with them and minimize the damage. There will be damage should not imply that we should allow it to go as big as possible. 😛
Please dont ignore the color change
Sure we'll talk it through I suppose but the current high priority task is redoing info. Though I must say that I really like red and am personally against changes aaa. 
really likes red
is green
aye only red folks can like red :<
Or just switch the colors of mods and admins if you like the red so much
@sand bramble
red looks very threatening :C
I didn't get to choose the color. It's been green since day 1. I would have gone for red no doubt. 
I'm not against changing the colours either
Idk. What do the rest of you think about switching them?
@sand bramble just change yourselves to red! Mods can have the beautiful green and be less aggressive unlike you two
We could also make it a bit darker/lighter/desaturated. The current red is literally pure red with 0 green and blue.
I’m against darker >.>
That's why I listed all options to let you guys decide. Idk man I do numbers not colors. 
what about these colours?
Yeah looks good
🤔 can you stick those colours next to the level role colours?
Pastels are kinda nice
I like it Nully :3
That’s not pastel reeeeee
those are the other colours:
But yeah, pastels would be nice
showcolour #e67e22
showcolour #9b59b6
showcolour #3498db
Those aren't red smh.
I suggest this color
But it's not red. :(
It’s cute red
imo it would be nice if the two complemented themselves
looks good
Blue doesn’t complement red tho, green does
It looks good Nully
i like the ones in that picture
Wot bout admins memeboy?
#redbestcolorsmh
#2f3136 is the discord bg.
In chat. 
Hm. I did sample that off your screenshot, how did you get a different one. 🤔
not sure lmao
Your bot doesn‘t work it shows nothing Nully 
Yeah lmao.
:^))
don't do blue for mods, we already have it for C levels
But a different blue smhh.
I'd say make it a little less saturated but keep green and red. Personally I don't care if you switch mods' and admins' colours around or not
Though I suppose it is pretty close lmao.
@gritty geyser if you're actually working on different colours, could you also take "Learning German" into consideration please?
oh okaz

howbouddose
fozon pls make admen red ill pay u 3 good memes and 2 perspective box drawings that aren't shit if you teach me how to make them not shit tnx biglove<<3
look ok for me
@gritty geyser i like the one from 28 past
28 past?
Just you wait till fozon comes up with completely different colors that aren't even red smh.
tf r dose
Very good suggestion. :^)
Tbh I like the two I posted. It's just red and green with a bit less saturation and a bit less brightness. But lets see wot fozmon does. 👀
arent even red
i mean if differences between mods and admins are not that big
itd be logical to make them look similar
also learning german role looks disgusting
so no one will like to keep this color of vomit
and there is a logical gradient between A to C
level c is a bit too bright tho
yeah I was about to say. I love everything so far (although its not red) but I'd change level b and c
if that makes sense
due to its brightness
level B to what?
Still should be some purples there.
switch them
And I think learning german and level a are too similar.
there is no cool gradient then
:^(
well, if foxxo is willing to make more changes to it, I'd prefer it if the admin role was red :^(
I dont wanna push this onto you though
if you dont want
i made them similar on purpose cuz they usually have the same level
D:
sure lets make more variants
ty foxxooo
pls red ill pay good money for red
you can just make it two different shades of red if you want them to look similar lmao :^)
Thanks for doing this btw. ❤
and you wanna keep admins green then
?
nah, we just want admins to be red
essentially
👀
oh then both admins are mods red but different shades
ye
Yeah I'm fine with that best fozon.
Foxxo you're gonna get SO much exposure from this 😩
Lmfao.
I think something like this is still best for these roles.
And keeps the gradient.
lets wait for foxxo as well :)
Base's proposal looks solid tbh
Pinko colmo
though I understand many would not like to be pink 🤔
That's racist.
Then how about with the Learning German red foxxo had in the other one?
As the Level A colour.
bd6a78? Looks nice
Btw I don't know the colours I used because I just made it in paint. 😄
rofl the mud colour of learning german :')
^ I LIKE
I like too, except that pink problem remains
what is the pink problem
he hates it bc its gay :(
I personally don't have anything against it, but many (like that meme Callum) don't like it. And I like to play devil's advocate
the devil here being Callum
honestly if people dont like it, it'll just motivate them to go onto level B 
because its a girl color or what
I think its fine 🤷
Base suggested bd6a78 as an alternative which imo looks way better, but it may conflic with mod colour
Tbh, the green looks nice, I’ll prolly remove my b role lol
suzu 
0x1#0001 asks: Should we use these colours
1⃣: Yes
2⃣: No
i have another objection
I love them.
Poll closes in 5 minutes from now
oh yes, ping 6k members lmao
why does B look darker than C colour? It seems counterintuitive from a gradient perspective
you want it to be more saturated?
and may i ask to please not cockblock discussion with a sudden premature vote? :P
sorry i cant see the poll link
in pins
thanks
For reference, look at Base's proposal https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/258608634575978496/502801740731514880, I like what he did in respect to how the roles and colours scale
I really dont like the sudden switch into mustard yellow personally
this is about the reworks in general. if we still want to discuss Level A, I have no objections in doing so
?
yeah, I don't like the learning german color on base's proposal otherwise, it's nice
I like that better, foxxo 👍
I won't further argue for A specifically as I frankly have no horse in this race
we would if pferd was here :(
Pink is a colour for girls and im a manly man 😤
he still wouldn't be my horse
i like pink here tbh
Manly, pink man
callum I have more muscle mass than you
Men can wear pink too
pink used to be for bois 🤔
@hexed halo i think it’s supposed to look not nice, kelsey
pink, the colour of a medium rare steak 😍
i think that "pink is a bad color" is a meme discussion
what's not supposed to look nice?
is it bc callums the one having the discussion 
👀
thanks everyone for voting. Could we get a final version now or is there still any need for further discussions?
yeah, I don't like the learning german color on base's proposal otherwise, it's nice
I agree with this but I'm perfectly fine with fozons colors too.
if we're talking looking nice vs not nice, I'd argue that green for learning german is too nice and might actually motivate users to not get a specific role
Actual callumism
@hexed halo the learning german role in bases proposal
I'm not so picky, tbh, they almost all look nice
maybe learning german should be some form of grey
haha
Then you cant see who left, kelsey
ngl that made me laugh, in a good way :')
Why don't you guys like the learning german colour? It's just like a sand/gold kind of colour and there's like a million shades you could choose that are similar but that you might like.
ngl? Is that some cthulhu cultist slang?
Learning german should be the discord gray 
almost all, but tbh i am a bit of opinion green admins were cool?
yep
not gonna lie
I definitely don't think it makes sense to give that nice green to a non-role.
ngl cthulhu ftaghn
SAME BASE
hrm? hello berzi
orangey more for learning german, base?
why couldn't you see them, suzu? it's the default color of not having a role
if it’s green, i will remove my role too lol
👀
Idk. Ask fozon if she can come up with a better shade. I really don't like that one.
@hexed halo that’s the point kelsey
Sure, I have no preference as to what the Learning German colour would be, except that it should be something pretty toned down and not super awesome.
wasnt this whole discussion because the moderator/admin was too red 👀
a moment
Yes heck
@gritty geyser can you try something like a 60 or 65% grey for learnign german? 🤔
i like almkst all these colours except perhaps mod red which is too red i think?
I think thats the point, to be scary
Tbh just make the bot prepend stupid to your nickname if you don't have a level role.
We should randomly change the colours every day
sand looks ok
ech, I woul like some green in there somewhere
lighter
Not so into the sand color sadly
?
me neither kels
yeah i think we lack green
i'm fine with no green, we might save it for roles we might need in the future
iunno, what about green mods and redish admins just to satisfy arem?
its too nice of a colour kels
lol
admin green is really green right now
Give that nice learning german green you had to us mods. 😻
we want mods and admins look more similar
^
Better idea: make everybody's role colour white
I like current admin green quite a lot honestly....ahh. Ok, makes sense.
so maybe ask the mods/admins what colour theyd like
better idea: ban callum from #suggestions cuz he does nothing here but memes
we already did hecke
you calling me hecke :')
False foxxo, I've had good idea
do you want me to use your real name lol
anyway
any suggestions, foxxo?
for learning german
btw this is what i have going on on my sicilian server right now and people seem to like it
not a fan
👀 oh boy
I definitely like the gradient idea
i'm not a fan either, i'm a person, but i'm not racist
Compromise. We keep what fozon posted but for Kolser and horkos birthdays we make everyone green.
haha
lmao
WOOT
this one looks fine

you're saying that bc you know its a year away 
well tbh my gradient could work in pastel instead of dark colours just as well
we cant make everyone happy, I'd like to find a compromise at some point :^)
What we use on the celtic server
i like all those colours
I think the gradients would just make them look...too similar
yeah I agree with foxxo
also I hate the....sand
@hexed halo I meant a rainbow gradient
yeah let's do 239487239842 roles so we can use all the colours
oooo make natives green
its rough, coarse and gets everywhere?

It's coarse and it's ro
oh beautiful 😩 rainbow
give natives the nice green colour
ey
Fuck yiu ctul
See everyone should just have a really small set of requirements. Like me. I just want the red.
I just want to not be piss yellow until I wanan be B
why not A then
Be A then.
i got used to the yellow for natives but if you guys really really want green to be somewhere, you could make them green. Or make learnign german green, but a disgusting shade of it
I dont wanna be A either 👀
I like colours tbh. Native gold and C level cyan(?) are particularly nice imo
Piss yellow is supposed to be a punishment for not getting a real role. :^)
Tbh I think the argument against sand colour is just as silly as the argument against pink colour.
🙄
thats sand you dolt
I like the native color too
i agree with base
to be honest I agree, just hold my opinion 👀
sand is good because it's mild and unattractive just as people without specific roles are
thanks serki :')
😄
wowie
I mean, if you really want people to put a role on
I wouldn't want to be that color for long 👀
put on pink A then
Or pass your exams before the colours are changed.
why not use the nice green shade you had before?
I cant base :') the dates are set
looks gud, foxxo. Hopefully the A one doesn't look too bright in practice
I still prefer gold natives, but i really like green colour here too.
perfect
ok I like that better
I like that.
gud
Any objections?
it's a pass for me
Off to the mod channel then. 
we'll handle it internally from here on then
inb4 none of the proposed colours ends up being in the final thing
and you two find a way to make individual letters different colours just so there can be more chaos
why berzi
why what
I want a rainbow name
why would they do that lol
because hatred
ah fairs 🤷
Okay we came to a conclusion. We'll use blue for mods and admins, purple for c, brown for b and yellow for a, while natives will be teal.
ksSHJ people here will take you seriously 
But anyway we have a majority so we'll change the colors soon. 
Bik love fozon for making cool colors
the colours are so relaxing to the eye
tbh
I like the red though.
admin red too dark
I'm gonna start talking to Bro today and hes gonna ask me why I'm native
no?
I dont think so
Meh im fine with it.
I like it personally
me too
I wouldve preferred an even darker red in hindsight 👀
well if arrem and botto like it
can someone level A type
Man it'll take some time to get used to these.
Tbh since it only affects you two, feel free to adjust it I guess. 😄
wtf those colors mean lmao
Oifa
make it black 
haha callum gay
@crude orbit haha gay pink
Ew wtf can j be level b yet
learn with me :^)
Men wanna be me, not with me 😤
study moar
Callum likes men xD
rip cal
Callum cute lol
wow I'm the colour of icecream that has no taste and an embarrassingly low amount of food colouring
it does seem to represent me correctly 🤔
I like the B color more than C tbh, now i have an excuse to stay B forever 
Nope?
Honestly ban calman
Didn’t see anything
i agree with suzu
i will now start working to make my german worse
it may actually be shit enough already for me to revert to b
yeah, the pastel purple does look a lot better 💔 😢
Wow, i said the colour suits you soo 
I miss my yellow already
like it's a nice green but the yellow went so well with my avatar and the swiss flag
and it's also my color on my home server (where it's the mod color) :P
you can have my yellow 👀
i don't see the swiss flag anyway 'cause windows
what's the name of that KH character again
thats the main character himself, Kingdom Heart
it's Roxas
oh so that thought i had in the back of my mind was correct
why not making level a dark yellow or brown or orange?
it would make sense, like an upgraded version of "learning german role" .
Or you could make the "learning german role" brown like poop and the level A Role this Sand color, so people will want to become A to not be Scheiße color 
or keep it in this way tbh that's the last of my concerns
@lucid ledge why are you native
Ew
:/
I personally prefer less pastel colors, but I don’t care too much.
You should give us your colour scheme recommendation, Bro. I would love to see it.
I sense sarcasm
I just think that more clear cut colors would be better, pastels are kinda faint and hurt my head a little bit
@gritty geyser ❤
I'm actually not a fan of how they look on a white background either but meh, mine's fine so whatever. 
I suppose I'd like C to kinda stand out a bit more. It's too pale. 🤔
Swap A and C? Pink is fairly bright colour.
Meh. We'll. A colorblind user complained about the current scheme so we're gonna rework it a bit.
no pink for C, it's not intimidating enough
Bright red for Level C. 

Can I recommend bringing back a nice gold or yellow for the natives? :P
I'll see if I can find a nice colorscheme if nothing's been settled by the evening
Does Learning German even need a color?
Like, there is not a single uncolored role
Yes so we can tell it apart from people who left.
Just click the name?
Effort. :(
have a bot track traffic, in a potentially private channel, then
I think it would be good to have native yellow if we end up having no other role similar once you guys are done rethinking the colours.
But otherwise the green is good.
please dont make learning german grey lmao
In general I'd say in order of visibility you'd want
Staff > Native > C > B > A > Learning German, right?
visibility as in high saturation and more distinct or sth
like, standing out
klassismus reeee
i think grey is good for learning german cuz it has no other meaning
I think grey is good too. Or some off-grey if there's a good choice, I guess.
Staff should probably be completely outside the color scheme, and then a gradient-like thing, perhaps
ABCNative going Dark Blue - Teal -Green - Yellow?
I really dont wanna blend into my background discord colour :')
and staff can have sth in the reddish or orange area
How about we just make everyone pink
Or you could build on flag symbolism, but Black doesn't make for a good role color
so only red and yellow hues would remain
lads, I really dont wanna have grey :')
Oh yes, let's make mods red and every other role a shade of yellow. I love it.
And then black for native speakers.
Alternatively give everyone the dark theme background color. Make them see the light.
I don’t even find light theme bad
I use light theme everywhere else
but I got a fierce headache when I tried it for a day
Soft colours better
🤔 3 more roles
ah
as sasha requested
I thought "callum likes men" is a new role
example text
im fine with it and i prefer the first option
the one that doesnt have puke green
lmao
:^)
B and C are pretty close to older ones. I like one with pink A more, although some people dislike pink for some reason?
Also, grey Learning German is ehh
Why grey
B n C kept almost the same, but now we have pink to make it more logical
Like no that even I have to wear it, it don't look good
Aigh
Why not make alt!A into one of main line colours?
instead of grey LG, for example
or instead of A
and make LG pink
I really don't like it I'm sorry, I don't wanna change to B yet but hey
IDK, IDK all 7000 people
alt!A?
so, how about,
B->A
A->LG
alt!A->B?
Okay soo eh
alt!A is like
not the pink A
And I'm not about to ask them all
iunno what the colour name is
what if we were to use one of those for Learning German
There are roughly 14 to idk the margin of error on this study colour blind people on the server
Yes exactly
it wouldnt fit that much but it would be a compromise
These are fine :^)
ye makes sense
yeeee we have changed nothing but girly pink and admins ahahha
Isn't that what we already had? 👀

Does it matter
Tbh maybe we should just make it all the same as before aside from the mod changes.
Aigh, is this an agreement then?
I like Fozon's proposal and 0x1's suggestion regarding learning german.
I'd like the blue-ish version for learning german then
aigh
@gritty geyser one last final version?
4 hour colour discussion :')
Ive not had time to have lunch yet
Go then
with result being changes to only mod colour and A level colour?
Fuck lunch. Colors > food.
I'm literally gonna join on an alt and say i can't tell the difference between two of the colours when this changes :^)
Well, if we use the blue-ish one for LG can we use the teal for Level A? That pink is pretty horrid to look at.
And then we're gonna say that we can't tell the difference between you and a banned person, hooooooo.
I like pink.
+1 for base
How come pink is horrid?
I'm ok with it
Pink isn't horrid. That shade is.
Heh

