Can we say ich mag dich ?
#lessons
boreal zealot
boreal pier
Ich mag Angela Merkel.
boreal zealot
What's the difference with ich liebe dich then ?
boreal pier
Like / love
dark garnet
Liebe sounds stronger
thorny tiger
(yeah, I think most people wouldnt even use it with their family)
frank quartz
Liebe is really strong in german i think. much stronger than the english word love am i wrong?
thorny tiger
Ich liebe Tanzen // Ich liebe es zu tanzen.
Liebe is really strong in german i think. much stronger than the english word love am i wrong?
@frank quartz yeah
wary atlas
Ich habe dich gern/lieb.
frank quartz
Warum ist es "es zu tanzen" in diesem Satz "Ich liebe es zu tanzen"?
boreal pier
I like it to dance
upbeat fossil
Vielen danke!
round oar
Thank you!!
wanton sandal
Danke
wary atlas
>sessions
frank quartz
cya
upbeat fossil
cool, no homework then 😛
boreal zealot
Danke und guten nacht
wary atlas
gute Nacht*
frank quartz
Vielen danke!
@upbeat fossil Vielen dank*
nimble oxide
@tacit mauve is there a meeting or something? Where can I find the link to it?
graceful island
bulli lesson
high mantle
session info 22
tacit mauveBOT
nimble oxide
Vielen dank 👍 🤗
high mantle
The lesson will be held in the lessons vc on this server here. Join in 20min to participate :3
next fractal
@high mantle hey sorry whats the verb to buy again?
high mantle
kaufen
wary atlas
@high mantle Neuter.
ebon parrot
and the war has begun
graceful island
lol
ebon parrot
tardy prawn
ne ich mach nicht mit
graceful island
tardy prawn
ich weigere mich dazu
sacred meteor
Is this where we talk about the lesson being taught?
wary atlas
Yeah.
gritty smelt
Katze?
wary atlas
Diminutive doesn't mean all small things. Only specific types of things like talking about babies and so on.
ruby ocean
und was ist denn "Band"? 
wary atlas
e.g. das Kätzchen = kitten (baby cat)
ebon parrot
both a male cat and a female cat are "die Katze", right?
graceful island
yea
ebon parrot
oh k
green pebble
unless you want to emphasise the gender, then it is der Kater for male one
burnt scaffold
Male cat is der Kater
ebon parrot
oh, thanks!
burnt scaffold
There are some patterns but you will have to learn them mostly
graceful island
lillie #1 = kein chen, lillie #2 =chen. ez.
burnt scaffold
Check out >ex gender patterns in #botchannel
gritty smelt
I dont understand the word "diminutive"
ebon parrot
I like to make crazy reasons why a word is Feminine/Masculine/Neuter. For example: I remember that "Kenntnis" is feminine because for me it looks like "miss Kennt" or sth like that c:
graceful island
Bullichen :3
graceful island
cutie
green pebble
cat kitty
ruby ocean
ja genau
graceful island
b-
green pebble
die Hundin
or you say sie ist weiblich if your vet asks you
ruby ocean
-y und -ie werden meistens verwendet, um ein Nomen im Englischen in ein Diminutiv umzuwandeln
graceful island
der ist ein weibliche hund uwu
nimble oxide
Hunchen and Huhn
graceful island
weint auf keine umlaute
high mantle
*Hühnchen
burnt scaffold
I don't think it's necessarily rude, usually you still refer to female dogs as der Hund though
storm turret
and when you can't write an umlaut you can do the following substitutions: ä - ae, ö - oe, ü - ue
graceful island
do they speak denglish and everything?
"you havw a nice katze" top denglish
Meine katze ist ein strong boi
storm turret
bulli always has top denglish. i wish i knew him when i was writing my thesis
graceful island
thats cuz bulli has top english
storm turret
on the socio-cultural influences on code-switching of which these examples of denglish come under
graceful island
CS? 
graceful island
shshshshs its all coming full circle
me when no appropriate 3rd person sigular pronoun in german for nb people
sacred meteor
I drink juice.
heady whale
Du trinkst Wasser.
sacred meteor
Sie trinken saft ?
gritty smelt
||Du trinkst Saft||
heady whale
i was told to remember
est. 1010
graceful island
and formal you
sacred meteor
Okay
high mantle
(die) Mathematik
gritty smelt
i like math
graceful island
CS
graceful island
which is mafs
sacred meteor
CS as in Computer Science?
heady whale
maffs
heady whale
||Ich lerne Mathematik.||
sacred meteor
'I am trying this math numerical'
graceful island
||ich lerne Polynominals||
gritty smelt
||Du lernst Mathematik||
high mantle
PRONOUN {lernen} MATHEMATIK
gritty smelt
||Wir lernen Mathematik||
heady whale
||Wir lernen Deutsch.||
graceful island
polynomimals are cool
sacred meteor
How do you guys do the above spoiler ?
green pebble
||Ich lerne Python||
gritty smelt
||Lernst du Mathematik?||
high mantle
||this is spoilered||
green pebble
two || before and after
heady whale
||double pipes||
graceful island
polynomials
green pebble
🐍
gritty smelt
||Ich lerne C#||
nimble oxide
Ich hasse Mathematik aber ich liebe programmieren
modest hull
how can i say i learn methematik too ?
sacred meteor
auch
cinder flicker
how to put spoilers?
graceful island
||ich will c# lernen||
heady whale
||double pipes||
cinder flicker
okay
graceful island
pipe boiz
modest hull
auch
@sacred meteor ich lerne mathematik auch ?
green pebble
how do you write double pipes and that it does not become spoiler?
gritty smelt
||Ich mag Mathematik, weil es Spaß macht||
indigo patio
||sie hasst es, über Mathematik zu lernen||
heady whale
i actually have a thing i use to remember this
sacred meteor
I guess so :x, i know the word 'auch' stands for 'too' , but not sure the word order
cinder flicker
||Sie kann mathematik machen, weil sie mathematik lernt||
high mantle
über @ hurrffoonny
heady whale
||Ich bin hier.
Du bist da.
Er ist aus Amerika.
Wir sind groß.
Ihr seid klein.
Sie sind an den schönen Rhein.||
idk this is just what my teacher taught me lol and it helped a lot
gritty smelt
I am not, I just meant that there are most likely many absoloute beginners in the vc
graceful island
||ich hasse matthe weil es krass schwerig ist, leider mag ich CS also muss ich die lernen||
modest hull
@high mantle how can i say
I learn mathematics too ?
ich lerne mathematiks auch?
heady whale
||Meine Lieblingsklasse ist Mathe, aber nicht wann es ist langweilig und einfach.||
indigo patio
danke danke
modest hull
can we download lesson 1 document ?
gritty smelt
👍
cinder flicker
Well wanted to checkouit a bit for lesson, need to go from here but maybe next time will on full 😛
high mantle
https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/224227249002381313/726489175758602330
or in pinned messages here
graceful island
if you want to improve your german vocabulary then download our app Seedlang
high mantle
https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/676090288275587072/741417682942820462
Schedule for these beginner lessons here
heady whale
identity theft is good yall
high mantle
Ich bin das Pferd
heady whale
||Pferd ist nicht hier. Er ist süß.||
gritty smelt
||Er ist ein Pferd||
heady whale
||Ihr sied süß.||
modest hull
Pferd ist groß.
graceful island
Pferd ist pferd
sacred meteor
Can you please pronounce 'Pferd' once?
gritty smelt
||Wir sind große Pferde||
sacred meteor
Oh it is 'Ferd' but 'p' is silent?
graceful island
its like an f that starts on a P
sacred meteor
oh so 'p' plays a very small role in pronunciation but it is indeed present
indigo patio
||ich bin neben dem Pferd||
heady whale
its redundant
graceful island
i don't think its too wierd
sacred meteor
So if 'You' is used formally we use Sie and we use -en than -t?
high mantle
Sie +-en, exactly
graceful island
i bully bulli
gritty smelt
How do you say "than"? Like: "I am better than him"
nimble oxide
Wir essen Lebensmittel .Is this right?
gritty smelt
Danke
graceful island
Wir essen w a s
nimble oxide
Wir essen die ganze Stadt
gritty smelt
Wir essen Essen in Essen und wir mochten das Essen, das wir gegessen haben in Essen.
graceful island
yes
nimble oxide
Ich habe eine Hund
gritty smelt
||Du hast ein Pferd||
heady whale
||Ich habe einen Tisch. Ich will den Tisch essen.||
high mantle
PRONOUN {haben} NOUN
gritty smelt
||Sie haben ein Fisch und Sie haben auch ein Vogel||
heady whale
||Das Geschäft hat Lebensmittel.||
green pebble
||Ich habe zwei Katern||
graceful island
||ich weiß dass ich freunden haben weil meine freunden mir 'wir sind freunden' gesagt haben||
nimble oxide
Ich hätte das Frühstück
sacred meteor
||Wir haben Kaffee||
||Ich habe ein Apfel|| (Thought it was only for haben)
gritty smelt
So you in formal "Sie" is capatilized?
graceful island
yez
green pebble
👍 danke
graceful island
||ich habe einen kater /s ||
gritty smelt
||Sie haben ein Fisch und Sie haben auch ein Vogel||
Like that?
||Sie haben einen Fisch und Sie haben auch einen Vogel||
graceful island
brottt
modest hull
ich habe einen Apfel
heady whale
||Ich habe viele viel Brot!||
graceful island
bulli ignores my memes
gritty smelt
||Ich habe Fische als Haustiere||
heady whale
est. 1010
buoyant osprey
Very sorry to be annoying: I joined late, what are we doing?
graceful island
🔋🔋
graceful island
do >sub grammer
buoyant osprey
England
gritty smelt
Same, ich komme aus Schweden
buoyant osprey
oh right, so you've been going for a whole hour and ahalf?
heady whale
btw, if your time zone is in daylight time now it would be really cool to call it daylight time instead of standard! its really confusing for me cuz my time zone does not have it
gritty smelt
go to sleep lillie
buoyant osprey
sub grammar
graceful island
with the carrot too
burnt scaffold
🥕
graceful island
you should be pinged
buoyant osprey
The lessons chat is sort of over populated so I miss the pings
high mantle
graceful island
don't 🐝 late
burnt scaffold
You can always check pings in your discord inbox
heady whale
i thought i heard it
graceful island
its daylight time now
buoyant osprey
You can always check pings in your discord inbox
@burnt scaffold ty
heady whale
so like, EST isnt EST rn. its EDT
graceful island
central daylight time
opaque flicker
i think you sent an edit link
heady whale
||Ich esse Kinder.||
sacred meteor
I am eating my lunch
graceful island
bulli how long is left?
buoyant osprey
ummm
gritty smelt
||Wir essen Essen in Essen und wir mochten das Essen, das wir gegessen haben in Essen.||
buoyant osprey
wir essen Orangen
heady whale
Nein! NIcht die Katze!
nimble oxide
Wir essen zu viel Brot
graceful island
okay imma go to bed now c: its too late rn
heady whale
Das ist okay.
sacred meteor
||Ich esse mein Mittagessen|| ?
graceful island
gn bulli!!!!!!
gritty smelt
||Sie essen Essen||
heady whale
||Wir können Kinder zusammen essen!||
graceful island
gn everyone uwu
heady whale
oh yeah!
sacred meteor
Tchüss
gritty smelt
||Ihr esst Essen, es schmeckt gut!||
nimble oxide
Ich kann ein Pferd essen
buoyant osprey
Kannst du meinen Hund isst?
^ does the "isst" get conjugated as so or does it stick with "essen"?
heady whale
the alt code for ü is alt + 0252
gritty smelt
the alt code for ß is alt + 225
buoyant osprey
If we are talking about a person eating like a wild animal, can we use fressen??
heady whale
oder alt + 0223
nimble oxide
Jeden Tag wir fressen ein Schläger
green pebble
afaik fressen is when you basically want to insult someone
gritty smelt
i just set up the german laungauge in windows and then i switch using Win + Space
buoyant osprey
Would it be used in a contect of describing a feral person, like someone raised by animals??
buoyant osprey
Okay, thanks
sacred meteor
Umlaut is normally used for making plurals and has different pronunciation?
green pebble
||Ich schlafe jedes Tag||
burnt scaffold
Umlauts have nothing to do with plural but they are pronounced differently yes
gritty smelt
||Du schläfst zu spät ein||
high mantle
*jeden, Red
nimble oxide
Jeden Tag Ich bin schläfrig
green pebble
ist taglich täglich oder taglich?
high mantle
high mantle
Flasche, Obst, Computer, Kamm, Bürste
gritty smelt
||der Computer||
heady whale
i like funny words
raw laurel
||die Flasche||
high mantle
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/14MPdMqPTH9XVocvy__Hw7cMz5jSXZux-
^The lesson, homework, some words
*Danke schön!
Bitte schön!
nimble oxide
Vielen Dank
modest hull
Bitte schön! means tankyou ?
ivory thorn
Hallo leute/Banned and Bullied, please which lesson is that ? 8 ?
green pebble
1
ivory thorn
Ok ok lol kein problem
I was just asking
Verb charts ?
oh no
yh i'm on it, i was just confused about which one you're studying. Vocab begginer 1 ?
green pebble
currently we are looking at homework file
buoyant osprey
Danke!
high mantle
Kein Problem!
nimble oxide
Keine Frage .Thanks a lot for your time 🙂
heady whale
Danke!
sacred meteor
Thanks for the lecture
green pebble
Thanks!
ivory thorn
mir geht ist schlecht
nimble oxide
Wie ist das Wetter dort?
ivory thorn
for not being there for the lesson lol
heady whale
Mir auch. Ich schlafe nicht weil ich ein Kunstwerke mache.
ivory thorn
Ya Ya ! I've seen it
heady whale
do you have any books that you would recommend to read for practice?
for like a2 level
or like... easy to read if i snag a dictionary
ivory thorn
have you done the complete homework sheet ?
nimble oxide
How to remember all the articles ?
high mantle
No, everything in that drive is from Basementality
heady whale
my german teacher also had a mnemonic for articles should i share that?
nimble oxide
Especially ..when there are all the cases
heady whale
i remembered it as RESE because der die das die
gritty smelt
Ich gehe jetzt, Auf Wiedersehn und Guten Tag!
nimble oxide
So..to repeat, repeat until it gets familiar
ivory thorn
sorry I meant, did you actually get throught the complete file ?
heady whale
its the last letter of each article
also is doodle allowed to talk or is everyone not mute by choice
nimble oxide
Weak verbs and strong verbs ..different conjunction?
green pebble
I think it's a lof of effort if you try to think about the gender
best approach would be to learn that dog isn't hund but der Hund
ivory thorn
I think doodle got it right..
hearty horizon
This is probably posted somewhere already, but is there a place where lessons are announced beforehand?
heady whale
green pebble
when you're talking you don't have that much time to think - remember the word then remember the gender then do declension
so if you are able to train yourself that all nouns in german are basically made of two words maybe it would be better
so you automatise it
hearty horizon
okay, thank you
high mantle
wackelig
green pebble
@hearty horizon also, you can go to bot channel and use >lessons and you'll see what's already planned and announced
heady whale
i think its >sessions tho right?
green pebble
yup, and probably some more 😄
ivory thorn
@high mantle If I do the exercises, Can I forward them to you ?
A second just passed by lol
you need more ?
green pebble
@ivory thorn I think it's usual way to write google doc, and then share it on #writing channel and then look for feedback/corrections on #corrections channel
also, when sharing doc, ensure that commenting/editing is enabled so that people can correct your work 🙂
ivory thorn
@green pebble vienlen Dank fur diese hilfreich Information
green pebble
😉
ivory thorn
See ya
ivory thorn
I'd like to try to do the exercises but it says i need access for that. Am I just supposed to download it in any available form and then upload it on google format again ?
nimble oxide
Sorry I stayed on call so long.Isn.t it closing automatically after finishing lesson?
Not using discord for such a long time..sorry for knowledge gaps
wary atlas
@ivory thorn Yes, you can make a copy on your own Google Drive and use that.
File > Make a copy
ivory thorn
Thank you mate. I appreciate.
maiden abyss
Where's the materials from today's lesson?
wary atlas
Which?
maiden abyss
The one after yours.
wary atlas
Bulli's one?
maiden abyss
ja ich glaube schon
wary atlas
He just used my slides from lesson 1.
maiden abyss
Oh, so it's all the same thing?
wary atlas
Yeah.
maiden abyss
Ah, okay
gritty smelt
@high mantle I finished todays homework 🙂 👍
high mantle
Nice 👍
fickle flint
Morning everyone
green pebble
@boreal pier @gritty smelt just a reminder to please use #botchannel for such requests, so that we others don't get a ping about some post in lessons that isn't about lessons :)
gritty smelt
Sorry, I saw that he wrote that and I thought I was in the bot-channel lol
jolly canyon
Swag
delicate vortex
Ich hoffe auch, dass ich all diese Zahlen gut gerechnet berechnet hab
compact hemlock
*berechnet.
delicate vortex
Ich bin sehr schlecht im Rechnen ;-;
compact hemlock
Ich glaube an dich. 
hushed abyss
MOMO!
delicate vortex
MOMO ❤️
Lies mit cowz! Sie ist eine so unglaublich schöne Geschichte
Beim letzten Mal lasen wir das erste Kapitel vor, also dies Mal geht es ab vom Zweiten
hushed abyss
Wie liest du?
Ich habe die ersten Kapiteln angehoert, mit Audiobook
fuer schlafen
aber es ist eine lange Zeit seit dann
delicate vortex
also wir lesen etwa einen Absatz vor, dann fassen wir auf Deutsch zusammen, was drin passiert ist. Wir können auch nach den Bedeutungen bestimmter Wörter, die wir nicht ganz verstanden haben, fragen und eine Erklärung wird dann geteilt
die ganze Stunde soll ausschlißlich auf Deutsch geführt werden
compact hemlock
MOMO ❤️
@delicate vortex Mit der Schildkröte?
compact hemlock
^^
trim lava
@delicate vortex juhu mehr Momooo 😄
lyric goblet
hey, ich brauch grad noch so ca 5min
stable spoke
ist es nötig, aktiv zu partizipieren? ich mein so, ich würde lieber einfach zuhören
storm turret
gar nicht nötig
lyric goblet
du kannst auch zuhören
cobalt forum
die [D]/das [CH] E-Mail, oder?
stable spoke
yay, danke
lyric goblet
stable spoke
ups, wrong emoji
cobalt forum
han mer auch
lyric goblet
Ii kaufa zwai Büacher.
Ii kaufaⁿ as Buach.
boreal zealot
Bin ich zu spät?
lyric goblet
ich hab kurz alles zusammengefasst, aber wir haben noch nicht mit den Aufgaben begonnen
cobalt forum
|| an Anfang und Ende
lyric goblet
||dieser Text ist versteckt|| ||dieser Text ist versteckt||
1. Ii kaufaⁿ as Buach.
meager tulip
||ich kaufe ein Buch||
storm turret
||Ich kaufe ein Buch||
stable spoke
||ich kaufe das Buch||
glass rune
||ich kaufe das Buch||
cobalt forum
||Ich kaufe ein Buch||
stable spoke
||ich kaufe ein Buch||
lyric goblet
2. Sii gset dr Ma.
meager tulip
||Sie sehen den Mann||
storm turret
||Sie sieht den Mann||
glass rune
||sie sieht den Mann||
cobalt forum
||Sie sieht den Mann||
stable spoke
||sie sieht den Mann||
boreal zealot
|| Sie sieht den Mann (?)||
wise narwhal
||Sie sieht den Mann|| dr Buab esst an Öpfel
lyric goblet
3. Miar gen inaⁿ an Öpfel.
meager tulip
||Wir geben ihnen einen Apfel||
glass rune
||wir geben ihnen einen Apfel||
storm turret
||wir geben ihnen einen Apfel||
stable spoke
||Wir geben ihnen einen Apfel||
wise narwhal
||Wir geben ihnen einen Apfel||
lyric goblet
4. D’Müatera lesen da Kinder Gschichta vor.
glass rune
||die Mütter lesen den Kindern Geschichten vor||
stable spoke
||Die Mütter lesen den Kindern Gischichte vor||
cobalt forum
||Die Mütter lesen den Kindern Geschichten vor||
meager tulip
||Die Mutter lesen die Kinder Geschichte vor||
wise narwhal
||Die Mutter lesen den Kindern Geschichten vor||
storm turret
||Die Mütter lesen den Kindern Geschichten vor||
lyric goblet
5. Iar vrkaufen üs z’Mittag.
stable spoke
||Ihr verkauft uns Mittagessen||
glass rune
||ihr verkauft uns Mittagessen||
storm turret
||ihr verkauft uns Mitagessen||
meager tulip
||Ihr verkauft uns Mittagessen||
wise narwhal
||Ihr verkauft uns das Mittagessen||
boreal zealot
||Ihr verkauft uns (ein) Mittagessen||
cobalt forum
||Ihr verkauft uns [was zum] Mittag||
stable spoke
ich dachte das "z" ist ein Artikel 😅
lyric goblet
ds z’Mittag
stable spoke
ist der Apostroph nötig?
lyric goblet
Zmittag zMittag z Mittag
stable spoke
danke 👍🏽
glass rune
keine richtigen Schreibregeln und so
boreal zealot
Gisch
meager tulip
||gisch||
glass rune
||gisch||
stable spoke
||Du gisch miar ds Brot||
storm turret
||du gisch miar ds Brot||
cobalt forum
||gisch||
lyric goblet
2. D’Buaba (haben) Glace.
cobalt forum
||hen||
stable spoke
||hen||
glass rune
||hen||
storm turret
||d'Buaba hen Glace||
wise narwhal
||hen||
meager tulip
buaba = buben?
lyric goblet
3. Ii (kommen) au.
boreal zealot
||kuma ||
glass rune
||kuma||
wise narwhal
||kuma||
cobalt forum
||kuma||
stable spoke
||kuma||
meager tulip
||kuma||
storm turret
||ii kuma au||
glass rune
||üs||
stable spoke
||Iar gsen üs||
meager tulip
||üs||
boreal zealot
||im||
cobalt forum
||üs||
storm turret
||iar gsen üs||
wise narwhal
||ihr seht uns||
tropic lion
ist das schweiziger deutsch dialekt?
stable spoke
||ama||
wise narwhal
||ama||
glass rune
||ama||
meager tulip
||ama||
boreal zealot
|| as ghört ama Maitli||
storm turret
||As ghört ama Maitli||
cobalt forum
||ama||
glass rune
macht man auch mit "ama" das mit dem n
also gibt's ama^n
kann das kleine n nicht schreiben
meager tulip
schwierige auszusprechen m nach einem n oder?
wise narwhal
Öpfel
lyric goblet
amaⁿ Öpfel
meager tulip
ich bezog mich auf Aris comment
lyric goblet
6. Miar gsen (es).
meager tulip
aman maitli
wise narwhal
||s||
stable spoke
||Miar gsen 's||
storm turret
||Miar gsen 's||
glass rune
||s||
meager tulip
||as||
storm turret
upsi
cobalt forum
||gsen's||
stable spoke
oh nein
meager tulip
||du gsesch mi||
storm turret
||Du gsesch mii||
stable spoke
||Du gsesh mii||
boreal zealot
||Du gsesch mii||
wise narwhal
||du gsesch mi||
glass rune
||du gsesch mi||
cobalt forum
||du gsesch mii||
lyric goblet
2. «Sie gibt dem Jungen ein Brot.»
stable spoke
||Sii git am Buab es Brot||
tawdry gorge
thanks sascha 👩❤️💋👩
storm turret
||si git am Buab as Brot||
boreal zealot
|| Sii git dr Buaba zBrot||
meager tulip
||Sii git da Buaba sBrot||
glass rune
||si git am Buab as Brot||
wise narwhal
||Si git am Buab as Brot||
cobalt forum
||Sii git am Buab as Brot||
lyric goblet
Sii git am Buab as Brot.
storm turret
wie heißt brötchen auf schweizerdeutsch?
lyric goblet
Buaba
storm turret
danke
lyric goblet
Brötli
stable spoke
ich glaube man macht das auf Hochdeutsch, weil "Junge" mit nem "e" endet
oder sowas?
lyric goblet
s’Brot = ds Brot
wise narwhal
Si git as am Professor?
wise narwhal
||hen iar an Stift?||
meager tulip
||Hen iar an Stift?||
stable spoke
||hen iar an Stift||
glass rune
||Hen iar an Stift?||
cobalt forum
||hen iar ama Stift||
storm turret
||hen iar an Stift||
stable spoke
||gosh du au?||
boreal zealot
||Gosch du au||
wise narwhal
||gosch au?||
meager tulip
||gosch du au?||
glass rune
||Gosch du au?||
storm turret
||gosch du au||
cobalt forum
||gosch du au||
lyric goblet
5. «Sie hat ein Haus.»
cobalt forum
auf standard ja auch (gehste auch?)
boreal zealot
|| sii het ama Haus||
meager tulip
||Sii het es Hüüs||
stable spoke
||Sii het as Huus||
storm turret
||si het as Huus||
glass rune
||Sii het as Huus||
cobalt forum
||Sii het an Huus||
wise narwhal
||Sii het as Huus||
glass rune
||dKatz jagt drHund||
stable spoke
||d'Katz jagt dr Hund||
meager tulip
||D'Katze jagt dr Hund||
wise narwhal
||D'Katz jagt dr Hund||
storm turret
||d'katz jagt dr Hund||
cobalt forum
||d'Katz jagt dr Hund||
lyric goblet
D’Katz jagt dr Hund
meager tulip
||Sii het es Hüüs||
@meager tulip Liegt das falsch wegen Hüüs oder es?
aber es statt as wäre akzeptabel?
ok
wise narwhal
D'Katz jagt dr Mensch oder Menschen?
storm turret
vielen dank sascha. war gut <3
meager tulip
Ds het miar au gfallen
wise narwhal
Ich finde das kleine N nicht fancy, denn ich kann's nicht schreiben
storm turret
muss noch viel nachschlagen aber das ist nicht unüblich für eine neue sprache
cobalt forum
(wär bisschen besser wenn du die Tabellen auf ner extra pdf gehabt hättest (zum einfacheren nachgucken))
glass rune
^
lyric goblet
cobalt forum
sonst gut
glass rune
ich fand die aufgaben sinnvoll von schwierigkeit her weil es alles neu ist
stable spoke
@lyric goblet du kannst eine öffentliche Dokument auf Google Docs mit den Tabellen machen, und die Link hier posten vielleicht
storm turret
trim lava
👋
glass rune
ja danke sehr
stable spoke
danke Sascha! schöne Lektion 🙂
lyric goblet
I think the guy is a pretentious asshole and I don’t really care to engage in a conversation with them
the English name is Swiss German btw, and the German name is Schweizerdeutsch
hollow narwhal
Maybe he meant schwieriger Deutsch
delicate vortex
Ups hab Leider zweimal benutzt
maiden abyss
Is this going to be a short or a long lesson?
wary atlas
Hopefully short.
maiden abyss
Alright!
mystic dune
@maiden abyss Wo kommst du her?
trim ferry
Nope
maiden abyss
wait theres weak verbs
vapid thicket
Hallo und danke für das pdf, where the leesaon is gonna be held? And where can i find lesson 1 to 8 pdfs??
Thank you!!
maiden abyss
Are we supposed to learn weak noun declension by heart?
@vapid thicket it's held right now in the lessons voice channel
Are we supposed to learn weak noun declension by heart?
is there strong nouns
no.
trim ferry
nope
wary atlas
Was ist dein Name? Mein Name ist ...
trim ferry
there we go
wary atlas
Kennst du meinen Namen?
maiden abyss
Er fragte nach deinem Namen.
?
vapid thicket
@vapid thicket it's held right now in the lessons voice channel
@maiden abyss thank you
maiden abyss
np
tardy prawn
people in Germany say "Wie ist dein Name", not "was"
in my experience everyone said that
maiden abyss
the policeman?
boreal zealot
helo base
trim ferry
your background noise sounds like something dying
maiden abyss
Base, is it alright if we don't know case declension perfectly by now? Cus I still have to look it up
👌
i got some
i use this.
maiden abyss
Base, did you make a mistake with genitive's version of "der Polizist" isn't it supposed to be "des Polizistens"?
maiden abyss
but corona 👀
outer vector
learner, someone who learns
tardy prawn
np, sorry not trying to interrupt the lesson, I forget that that's what this is for sometimes
mystic dune
Oh
maiden abyss
it's CEFR
wary atlas
That's fine, Nate. It's always welcome!
outer vector
sir
trim ferry
sir/mr/gentleman
tardy prawn
I was personally kind of surprised about "wie" being used like that tbh when I first started noticing it, but then I just started copying it eventually
wary atlas
Sehr gut.
vapid thicket
Sehr gut
trim ferry
is there a pronounciation difference between Herrn and Herren
vestal apex
What is actually the point of this lesson?
vapid thicket
Basic lesson for beginners
vestal apex
what is a weak noun?
maiden abyss
There's a specifically polite way to address someone
vestal apex
yeah
mystic dune
No
wary atlas
Ich bin ein Junge.
Ich sehe einen Jungen.
vestal apex
Are there many weak nouns?
vapid thicket
Ich einen Jungen sehen
vestal apex
So they're basicly all masculine forms, right?
vapid thicket
From what I’ve learned, verb is placed at the end. Correct me if I’m wrong.
outer vector
@wary atlas duden says sing. gen. of Name is Namens
vestal apex
I came later, sorry
tardy prawn
Ich sehe einen Jungen*
From what I’ve learned, verb is placed at the end. Correct me if I’m wrong.
It does happen but not in this case
vapid thicket
Ich einen Jungen sehen
So this is wrong
tardy prawn
yes
tardy prawn
that is not a valid sentence
outer vector
@vapid thicket the conjugated verb typically goes in the second position
also, conjugate your verb
tardy prawn
Da ich einen Jungen sehe...
Some conjunctions, such as "da" will push the verb to the end
vapid thicket
Oh i see, not in every case applies it
vapid thicket
Thank you so much
outer vector
nate i don't think base is teaching this yet
tardy prawn
Uh
trim ferry
we did conjunctions a few weeks ago
tardy prawn
But I don't think it hurts does it
vapid thicket
Nop. It doesn’t 😆
vapid thicket
It helped me, thanks.
tardy prawn
np
vestal apex
You know I'm like C1 level and I didn't know these rules? xD I used them accidentally. It's nice to come back to things like that.
tardy prawn
How long have you been C1 for tho
vestal apex
Idk, I live in Germany for 7 years now, I don't remember
tardy prawn
also you know you can get the blue role when you are C right
bruh lucky
I wanna move there some day
outer vector
i think you guys should use a different channel so base doesn't have to read all of this
remember, he is doing a lesson right now
tardy prawn
yeah you're right aden
hollow narwhal
We should just ban Nathaniel
tardy prawn
maiden abyss
I needed water
vestal apex
@tardy prawn I remember writing 50 pages long thing for my German class and that was the mistake I made, cause I didn't know weak nouns exist
maiden abyss
ja im here
mystic dune
Yes
maiden abyss
did you learn german by just living in deutschland
maiden abyss
Do native speakers just shorten it to S?
👌
my ears just officially died
Is this what you're talking about? I think I missed that lesson.
outer vector
aren't these possessive adjectives as opposed to possessive determiners?
wouldn't the difference be my vs. mine?
ach danke
maiden abyss
When using a English word, like Hobby/ Hobbys
Is there an apostrophe?
Yeah
Oh, okay.
vapid thicket
Dang, ig2g but thanks a lot for this lesson. Hope you can do it more times. See you guys from Mexico! Tschüss
maiden abyss
gute nacht
tardy prawn
In English it’s hobbies, base might’ve already said that tho
trim ferry
so the genetive noun posessed the accusatiive noun
maiden abyss
Would a phrase [This is of utmost importance] be translated with genitive?
🆗
[deepl says: Dies ist von größter Bedeutung.]
boreal zealot
von + dativ
raw agate
why wegen instead of weil?
boreal zealot
wegen is basically for nouns
outer vector
"because of" vs. "because"
boreal zealot
yep
maiden abyss
ah i kinda hoped it'd be Staat 😄
outer vector
he was quoting the slide
maiden abyss
nope
boreal zealot
so wegen + noun (genetiv) and weil + phrase
coarse stratus
quick question: is "trotz" like "trotzdem"?
boreal zealot
yeah so trotz + noun
maiden abyss
sorry, which ones to learn straightaway
What's the difference between anstatt and statt
wary atlas
Statt Spanisch lerne ich Deutsch.
outer vector
des Spanisch, Spanischs Duden
raw agate
What about " I want bananas instead of apples."
maiden abyss
google example: Statt Anton hat sie Peter geheirate.
trim ferry
I need to leave early today, thanks for the lesson!
boreal zealot
geheiratet*
wary atlas
Statt nach Deutschland fliege ich nach Australien.
tardy prawn
What about " I want bananas instead of apples."
Anstatt Äpfel hätte ich gerne Bananen.
maiden abyss
tbw I found this
coarse stratus
ok makes sense to me
tardy prawn
Yup that is very accurate @maiden abyss
boreal zealot
Statt Äpfel möchte ich lieber Bananen (?)
mystic dune
If you don't use the genitive talks how do you know if it's possessive? @wary atlas
tardy prawn
Also works @boreal zealot
maiden abyss
@tardy prawn what does the author mean by saying "When using the unshortened form we may intend a higher register of German but in this case this is of not much siginficance." ?
wary atlas
an seiner Stelle
outer vector
formality
mystic dune
If you don't use the genitive case how do you know it's possessive
If it doesn't have an article
boreal zealot
context usually
tardy prawn
I think it’s basically saying that anstatt can potentially sound more formal but honestly Idk that’s a very minor thing
People use both a lot
wary atlas
Statt Spanisch lerne ich Deutsch.
maiden abyss
English isn't my native language, so I have no idea what he meant by "higher register of German"
wary atlas
Statt des Hundes möchte ich die Katze.
vivid dagger
@maiden abyss just talking fancier
outer vector
@maiden abyss a register is the "kind" of language you use, influenced by who you're speaking to, or what environment you're in
maiden abyss
ah
outer vector
informal vs. formal in simplest terms
maiden abyss
danke
tardy prawn
Yup
boreal zealot
it's not gonna die in our lifetime lol
outer vector
we can't really predict linguistic evolution
i think genitive being associated with formal tone might be why people think that
maiden abyss
this is kinda unrelated, but maybe in the future you can do a lesson on slang words, chatting abbreviations and stuff like that?
vivid dagger
^^
coarse stratus
"was geht ab alda" 🙂
maiden abyss
ah okay cus i tried understanding german memes and failed 😂
boreal zealot
yeah probably a native speaker is more "geeignet" for that
maiden abyss
suitable?
maiden abyss
i was like why is this man making me use the translator xd 😦
Can you give an example of such a sentence where genitive wouldn't work?
boreal zealot
an example for von that doesnt work for genitiv?
finite raven
My teacher (native German, in Berlin) also said not to worry about Genitiv (even though we learned it well), because it was dying out. You said that's just a myth that's not supported by data.
Then where does this misconception come from? Is it purely anecdotal?
maiden abyss
I guess it started from the regions where it's not used much
coarse stratus
we learned it in mexico too in a2 level, but the teacher told us that it was dying out
maiden abyss
(?) from what Base said. That's my theory.
wary atlas
Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod (Zwiebelfisch)
finite raven
if there isn't actually a decline in the use of genitiv, is it still fair to say it's not as common as the other ones?
maiden abyss
Zwiebelfisch? 👀
finite raven
we were told to ignore it initially because we would use it a lot less
boreal zealot
also u probably use dativ and akk almost in every sentence but definitely not the case for genetiv
coarse stratus
in literature it's pretty common actually
boreal zealot
yep
finite raven
👍
maiden abyss
sind wir fertig?
outer vector
danke base!
boreal zealot
thank you so much for your efforts <3
maiden abyss
Are we kinda done with A1?
tardy prawn
Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod (Zwiebelfisch)
🤢
vivid dagger
damn this is a1?
coarse stratus
genitiv is a1?
vivid dagger
loll
coarse stratus
lol
maiden abyss
i mean its basic cases
vivid dagger
we're doing this in final year of our high school german
boreal zealot
honestly it doesnt make sense to keep it for later
u read a text and you're like why is it "des"
coarse stratus
i learned it in a2
vivid dagger
lol wtf
maiden abyss
i mean not RIGHT NOW, but last year.
vivid dagger
what country?
maiden abyss
serbia
coarse stratus
i guess it depends on the region
tardy prawn
My teacher (native German, in Berlin) also said not to worry about Genitiv (even though we learned it well), because it was dying out. You said that's just a myth that's not supported by data.
@finite raven having lived there for almost a year I can say it’s still very present in speech. However, it depends on the particular region more than anything else, or person, depending on where they grew up.
vivid dagger
im in australia haha
vivid dagger
sounds a lot better over there
maiden abyss
from grade 5 you pick another language
and learn it grade 5 - 8 + 4 years in high school
so...
vivid dagger
hahaha i think about 1 in 15 people even take a second language at all over here
maiden abyss
nah it's mandatory here (i think)
unless you go to schools for less intelligent students.
vivid dagger
lol no, i go to one of the better schools
tardy prawn
One time I actually asked my host brother if he would say „von“ or use genitive and he said he usually prefers genitive because it sounds much prettier to him.
maiden abyss
lol no, i go to one of the better schools
@vivid dagger yah you'd be doing your 2nd language by now, and english should be (well, your first foreign language) at at least B1 - B2 ish
tardy prawn
But depends on the sentence
wary atlas
sessions
tacit mauveBOT
vivid dagger
nah german is my third actually, second по-русски ))
maiden abyss
i think i'll redo some lessons on this different time
especially about prepositions
coarse stratus
it useful for reviewing also!
vivid dagger
thank you base 🙂
maiden abyss
nah german is my third actually, second по-русски ))
@vivid dagger here you have to learn English. 2nd language options are usually French, German, Italian and sometimes Russian.
coarse stratus
sessions
tacit mauveBOT
coarse stratus
ok anyone can use the bot 😄
maiden abyss
@wary atlas can you perhaps talk about something like general tips for learning? some tips, what to ignore, and what to focus on? maybe from your personal experience and etcetera.
vivid dagger
damn, i know the yugoslav school system was very good, glad to hear its still doing alright over there 😄
wary atlas
coarse stratus
i recommend the "menschen" books for anyone that is new
vivid dagger
i mean its not the worst idea tbh
coarse stratus
ok basementality, did not know that im sorry
maiden abyss
Oh, did you mean you're gonna do a lesson specifically on it? I just meant like talk about it right now haha
vivid dagger
closest thing to an international language
maiden abyss
i mean its not the worst idea tbh
@vivid dagger yeah worked good
tardy prawn
i think its fairly new for english being mandatory
One time I tested my taxi drivers English skills and he asked to please switch back to German
wary atlas
faq best way to learn
tacit mauveBOT
maiden abyss
oh god its long
coarse stratus
i do 6 hours a day in an intensiv course, and im promised to be B1 in 2 months. starting in A2
you can have an idea of time for that
maiden abyss
is this a typo?
Anything less than 5 hours and you may find it hard to keep improving steadily
oh weekly lol
oh i thought it was daily 😂
tardy prawn
maiden abyss
Yah, so I asked here and on r/German about people's schedules because I noticed that sometimes I'd be like
5 days I study nothing
coarse stratus
i got A2 in 2 years with 5 hours a week
maiden abyss
then 6th I do 4 hours
tardy prawn
That would be really way too much especially if it’s not immersion and just you alone
maiden abyss
I think I am doing good with grammar, kind of.
I'm really struggling with vocab, though.
coarse stratus
grammar+reading is, in my opinion, ideal
maiden abyss
Because for grammar I use Schenke's and your lessons, and your materials. But vocab is hard. Also kinda hard to learn the articles, even though I try to remember them
boreal zealot
Vocab is my main problem rn