Help with Load order/ any other recommended mods

[gaunt lark]

I am pretty new to modding and asking if someone could tell me the best load order for these mods to minimize my crashes/load time. any help/tips on ones I should load first would be appreciated. Thanks.

[vagrant widget]

Scrap Everything will crash the game, it's not a load order thing

It disables the precombines system, which will make the game unstable

I see you're using BASS as well, are you downgraded?

[gaunt lark]

yea i downgraded Fo4 f4se and mcm

[vagrant widget]

AWKCR and AE are in the same boat as Scrap Everything, they will cause crashes because they're old.

ECO and it's complementory mods are a better option

[vagrant widget]

Use Buffout 4 then

It will help with general stability a little bit, it will also give you a crash logger and other stuff like Achievements on modded saves. Which will nullify the need for the Achievements mod

I would also suggest looking into replacing DefUI with FallUI

[vagrant widget]

And by extension, Weaponsmith Extended is also void since it's using AWKCR

[gaunt lark]

Thanks so much man I will replace. Load order wise what should i place towards the top. I do have SS2 but other that that i dont have a clue.

[vagrant widget]

Look at the descriptions of the mods you download, most mod authors will tell where something goes, combine everything from every description and you should have a bare bones idea to go off of for your load order

Generally speaking, and I will say this, this is by no means perfect or a hard rule. This is just the general order I put my mods in. And it typically works, with some specific mod exceptions

Though you will almost always have to jump into xEdit and resolve conflicts there. Load order although crucial, isn't the only thing that you need to look out for

[gaunt lark]

I did clean all the recommended ones by LOOT. I did see that nvault1080 and combat zone restored have navmesh problems which seems complicated to fix.

Either way man Thanks so much for the recommendations

[vagrant widget]

LOOT is useless for Fallout 4

The LOOT masterlist for Fallout 4 is outdated, and thus leads to plugins getting sorted in weird ways which just leads to issues

You're better off sorting your plugins manually, for fallout 4 atleast

A handy tool is the plugin checker from Wrye Bash, that will tell if a master is delinquent (Master loading after a plugin that depends on said master, delinquencies can and will cause crashes) and generally some other plugin related info that you can use to give yourself an idea on what to do with your load order

Pair that with, as I mentioned before, xEdit. And you can get a pretty stable modlist. If you put the time in

[gaunt lark]

Awesome going to look into Wrye Bash. Thanks so much.