gotcha, did you lose time anywhere? i estimated ~15ms but i might have been wrong
#rBC NG 3lap
lunar ginkgo
topaz sierra
4th turn felt qm locked frustratingly but i'm not sure
nocturne lynx
oh wait yeah i forgot we dont want the mach optimal combo misinformation to spread
lunar ginkgo
mach is the optimal combo it just needs to be optimised more 
final tangle
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hollow igloo
@topaz sierra how late can time be saved to be useful?
and what lap are you working on?
topaz sierra
we saved 15 ms between end of l2 and middle of l3. atm the lava room bridge gives bad qm into the stairs. the first bridge is qm locked too. need to try to save 1.5 ms anywhere in the first half of l3
lunar ginkgo
saved about 1.5 ms i think
what did you improve with this ghost
did you redo the 3rd turn to hop later
topaz sierra
no that's slower
lunar ginkgo
you sure? you spend less time accelerating from the rewheelie before the 4th turn
topaz sierra
yes
topaz sierra
honestly you're making me double guess it so try again if you want but it felt slightly slower
lunar ginkgo
it just seems logical to me + it's what alego did when he was working on this. you might be right though but i'll play around with it later
topaz sierra
hopping later loses time for the turn itself. maybe delay by just one frame maybe 2
lunar ginkgo
btw did you get the bridge stick?
topaz sierra
i had to avoid it it's slower than big airtime
lunar ginkgo
lol what, the bridge stick is slower? thought it saved 1ms
topaz sierra
i don't even known anymore, i just know the best qm is the small airtime one
lunar ginkgo
0.9ms ahead after 5th turn. couldn't improve the 4th turn itself. quick hop on 4th turn, and the 5th turn can be improved more but i have to go for a bit and couldn't spend much time on them
dull compass
got really close to 1 f ahead (0.066 f behind) before the castle turn before the shroom sc
dull compass
0.9ms ahead after 5th turn. couldn't improve the 4th turn itself. quick hop on 4...
was not working of this one
lunar ginkgo
if i’m not mistaken my ghost is only 0.7ms away from a full frame (or 0.04f)
lunar ginkgo
got really close to 1 f ahead (0.066 f behind) before the castle turn before th...
what setting lets you see distance player-ghost
lunar ginkgo
i couldn’t find that on the ini
cerulean shell
0.7ms and then the track is done
dull compass
what setting lets you see distance player-ghost
this ?
topaz sierra
getting there
lunar ginkgo
you got the full frame?
topaz sierra
i'm too far ahead at the stairs with no easy way to slow down
lunar ginkgo
you’ve hit the point where you’re too far ahead now?
what if you earrape a bit on the bridge?
lunar ginkgo
uh
try going the tiniest bit wider on the turn before the bridge by using -7 vertical inputs
topaz sierra
nah i can't lose any time at all without losing the quick bridge landing
lunar ginkgo
oh i see
topaz sierra
i'm trying to relearn the stairs to see if i can match the shroom from this. it's been a long time
lunar ginkgo
if you can’t get anything i’ll try take a look when i get home. maybe it wouldn’t hurt to agc the flap / marths run for a slightly different alignment or something
lunar ginkgo
so, just to clarify. we are ever so slightly too far ahead for stairs, but we can’t lose time because we won’t get the bridge stick (which saves some time)
if i’m wrong please correct me
topaz sierra
if you lose any time you will get 18 f hop from the bridge instead of 13
lunar ginkgo
ah my mistake. ty
will take a look when i get home, hopefully redoing stairs doesn’t lose that much time
wait 13f hop? every other lap was 12f no?
dull compass
slowed down a bit before stair and resynced the rest .973 last turn can still be improved, i'm i think a ms slower than the .989's one
topaz sierra
ty alego i was trying again and still couldn't figure it out lmao
topaz sierra
972, last turn is 0.2 ms weaker than before, but it's 0.5 ms from 971 which i doubt is possible
lunar ginkgo
on the 989 we were 0.3ms away from another ms and couldn’t improve it, so this is done i think
topaz sierra
yeah i agree
i am pretty surprised this l3 frame was doable, i brushed it off completely at first. thanks for helping everyone
lunar ginkgo
so what’s the plan, now that mach and flame runner are finished?
topaz sierra
i would like to upload the flame run, you can upload mach
i can record this evening
lunar ginkgo
sounds good, didn’t you mention something about wanting mach bike to briefly be the bkt since it was started first
or did i make this up
topaz sierra
yeah, what i meant was that i wanted it to be included in the official bkt history that people care about. contrast to the first ryf auto run, which beat the manual bkt of the time, but not the improved manual tas which was made at the same time
having one or two separate bkt pings, i don't really care, maybe one showing both runs makes more sense to avoid spam
lunar ginkgo
could just upload the mach bike to mkwtas so its in the bkt history and only ping for flamerunner
cerulean shell
just do 1 ping and post them at the same time
topaz sierra
no if it's one ping it should have both
cerulean shell
if people check the channel because of one ping then they'll be forced to see both videos
lunar ginkgo
1 ping and have both runs in the same message. people will see flame runner as the faster time anyway
topaz sierra
should the flame runner upload be multighost?
lunar ginkgo
multighost against marth and the mach? sounds good to me
cerulean shell
agreed
topaz sierra
okay
lunar ginkgo
bro thinks he’s part of the team
cerulean shell
i think i loaded up ghosts at least like 5 times and couldn't improve anything
lunar ginkgo
i can record this evening
wait record both and let me upload mach or record just the flame
topaz sierra
you can record mach
lunar ginkgo
alr cool, what resolution to people typically frame dump in, 4k?
lunar ginkgo
@dull compass can i please have your config.ini for framedumping? your settings are good
dull compass
yeah sure here it is
topaz sierra
the flame vid is uploaded and unlisted, need to make a thumbnail
is the mach vid going to race against the old flame tas or the new?
nocturne lynx
surely both
topaz sierra
i really don't think that foss knows how to set up multighost though
nocturne lynx
@lunar ginkgo
topaz sierra
btw this is a big stretch, but is there any possibility of making a pycore script for manipulating the freecam?
dolphin's controls are pretty bad. i wish i could simply tell freecam "rotate yaw 90 degrees right" or "go in this position and start moving to the left"
lunar ginkgo
i do not, i haven’t had a chance to dump the mach bike either yet since im still figuring it out
lunar ginkgo
is the mach vid going to race against the old flame tas or the new?
thought it was just going to race against marth
racing the new flame tas doesn’t make much sense to me because it’ll lose
topaz sierra
i do not, i haven’t had a chance to dump the mach bike either yet since im still...
you need like 3 more things it's anoying
topaz sierra
racing the new flame tas doesn’t make much sense to me because it’ll lose
i thought it would be interesting to see the race from the mach pov, it's arguably more interesting
but i don't care very much you can argue with other people about this
lunar ginkgo
i thought it would be interesting to see the race from the mach pov, it's arguab...
true, but also the player shouldn’t lose to a ghost (in the main video imo)
could always upload a second video where it’s mach vs new flame or something
lunar ginkgo
you need like 3 more things it's anoying
couldn’t advanced live replay + agc work
or no
topaz sierra
for multighost no but if you just want to race marth yeah
lunar ginkgo
idm having multighost in the end but that will obviously require some configuring. if we want to upload these runs quick someone else could record the mach runs
i’m pretty busy all day so won’t be able to do much until tonight
topaz sierra
if you are sure that you are okay with multighost i could record it for you it'll prob be easier
lunar ginkgo
yeah it's fine. it's technically not the bkt so it doesn't matter that much
topaz sierra
okay, do you want vanilla music or no music to add your own?
i'm assuming input display and speedeometer
lunar ginkgo
okay, do you want vanilla music or no music to add your own?
i think the song 'flamewall' would be good for rbc
song dies down for a bit when the run is finished too
gotta have input and speedeometer too ofc
lunar ginkgo
i think the song 'flamewall' would be good for rbc
oh i read this wrong mb. no music so i can add my own thanks
topaz sierra
@lunar ginkgo would you rather have the video with these tags or without?
lunar ginkgo
without, it’s sorta self explanatory which ghost is which, no?
topaz sierra
yeah. i just learned that's a feature
lunar ginkgo
wait do most videos keep them on or off?
topaz sierra
off
lunar ginkgo
ah okay then, let’s keep them off
topaz sierra
lunar ginkgo
awesome, ty. will edit tmr
topaz sierra
@lunar ginkgo update on the editing?
lunar ginkgo
sorry, i’ve been swamped with stuff lately. i’ll record as soon as i get home
editing shouldn’t be too hard right, just add a fade out and bgm, right?
thumbnail too ofc, i’ll find a clean shot in the run and add text with the time or something in the thumbnail
lunar ginkgo
i will now record as soon as i wake up
sorry once again for not having this recorded sooner
topaz sierra
what the fuck man i shared a recording in google drive and thought you downloaded already so i got rid of it
dull compass
could it be bc i downloaded it to see the comparison ?, if that's why, i'm really sorry
topaz sierra
no definitely not. i was running out on google drive space so i moved it to trash can and emptied
lunar ginkgo
i’m throwing this so hard i’m sorry
lunar ginkgo
@topaz sierra since i fucked up by not downloading it and also taking ages to start editing, you or someone else can record. i'd like to have these runs up asap if that's okay
topaz sierra
i can upload it unlisted on my channel. or i guess alego did download the video, so if he wants it on his channel that's fine by me
appreciate that you're okay with not delaying. you'll have another chance in the future i'm sure
topaz sierra
i can upload it unlisted on my channel. or i guess alego did download the video,...
@dull compass thoughts? i have no preference
dull compass
<@927245453064568912> thoughts? i have no preference
do we want to do a name display for the mach one ?
i'm down to upload it if you want
topaz sierra
yeah if you can set it up sure. i would not go through the effort myself lmao so maybe it's best you upload
lunar ginkgo
do we want to do a name display for the mach one ?
i do actually have an authors.txt file for the mach (that im 95% sure is accurate)
dull compass
i do actually have an authors.txt file for the mach (that im 95% sure is accurat...
oh cool
could you send it ?
lunar ginkgo
dull compass
ty !
lunar ginkgo
i think that's accurate, pretty sure you did the syncing alone
dull compass
i think that's accurate, pretty sure you did the syncing alone
of l2 yeah
dull compass
corvid i assume?
yes
lunar ginkgo
ah then you need to edit it a bit
nocturne lynx
Wait is foss not uploading what?
If it’s an issue with getting files transferred you can just give people permissions to upload on your channel
lunar ginkgo
i figured since i delayed recording (and consequently the upload) it’d be more appropriate if someone else uploaded the mach instead
lunar ginkgo
bit late for that now i don’t have the recording and im pretty sure alego has finished / is close to finished editing 
nocturne lynx
If it’s an issue with getting files transferred you can just give people permiss...
like i said here you dont need to be the one to record, edit, or have the video file
you can give whoever has the video restricted access to your channel and then they can upload it for you
If you go to YT Studio > Settings > Permissions > Invite you can add an email and then give it "Editor" permissions
You'll need to dm alego to get his email since thats probably not something that should be shared in public
hollow igloo
lunar ginkgo
If you go to YT Studio > Settings > Permissions > Invite you can add an email an...
oh what i didn't know that's a thing, that's cool as hell
if alego is fine w it (Since he spent time editing and whatnot then this works)
dull compass
if alego is fine w it (Since he spent time editing and whatnot then this works)
yeah sure
btw which music do you want ?
dull compass
i think the song 'flamewall' would be good for rbc
this one ?
why do running the encoder script almost crashes my pc ?
i'm gonna do the name display manually then
crude ermine
i think the song 'flamewall' would be good for rbc
Omg yes please. This song is actually so fitting for this track and it’s so peak🙏🏻
lunar ginkgo
yeah flamewall is good for this track
topaz sierra
is this video going to be done soon?? i would quite like to upload
lunar ginkgo
i assume alego has finished or is close to finishing, so maybe later today (or whenever you wake up)
dull compass
i assume alego has finished or is close to finishing, so maybe later today (or ...
yeah i finished two days ago but you didn't read/missunderstood what i said in dms
hollow igloo
this journey to upload the video is gonna be more fun to watch than the actual TAS
lunar ginkgo
yeah i finished two days ago but you didn't read/missunderstood what i said in d...
oh wtf i didn’t get a message in dms
lunar ginkgo
@topaz sierra i got some fantastic news that you're gonna love
i want to link the flame runner tas in the descriptiuon though so do you mind sending me the link quickly please
topaz sierra
lunar ginkgo
aw crap gimme a sec forgot to get a thumbnail
lunar ginkgo
@topaz sierra ok i was busy, video is ready to upload whenever https://youtu.be/bdAY2fiptJ4
ok thumbnail looks worse suddenly but whatever
i'll set the vid to public now
sorry this took so long
topaz sierra
oh usually i wait until the evening europe time so that more americans wake up lmao
alright whatever i'll just make the other one public too
topaz sierra
i made it public
lunar ginkgo
videos are up and finished and things are still going wrong 🤦♂️
lunar ginkgo
doesnt matter its all good
topaz sierra
making the fucking videos was harder than the tases themselves holy shit never again
nocturne lynx
I take it Monster didn't end up having input in the TAS after all?
topaz sierra
idk up to you really
we were struggling to get the rfh on l1, so at first we copied the input from the flap, still didn't get it. i changed the rfh inputs around a whole bunch, and only after improving the spiral i got good qm. does that count as copying input or not
nocturne lynx
ah i see yeah thats tough
i would say yes though
you still had to base those inputs off something
topaz sierra
the inputs in the rfh ended up not mattering at all for the qm. just happened to be leftover, i could as well have just had random rfh inputs. idk where the line for basing off something is drawn. for once i don't care to argue one way or another lmao