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[solar bear]

Ok when I said couple I actually meant 1

More left trick, shroom 1 frame later for better boost distribution, and earlier reo drift

[olive totem]

is going wider when exiting the cut faster

[warped geode]

sometimes you can't go super tight at the exit miniturbo

you get some weird QM to do with your roll

[solar bear]

Getting the earliest mt and going wide to tight seems to be fastest

I was able to release the mt at 84.614 instead of 84.01 which helps a lot with boost distribution too

[solar bear]

Look what luke did lol https://youtu.be/R31vCU_DFnA?si=PSeaNbjoXPLCppG6

[warped geode]

no credit to Campbell

[solar bear]

Weren't you talking to rta players about the new shroomspot

[warped geode]

yes

it's fine i left a comment

[warped geode]

nice job btw

is that rkg the latest?

you sent the video 25 mins after the ghost so idk if you improved further

[solar bear]

I have

37.793

[wooden tapir]

oh shit sub .8 did happen

i havent done anything here really cuz as soon as i save time someone else has saved so much more 😭

happened like 2 or 3 times already

[olive totem]

792, tried improving more but im getting qm locked by the bridge

being anymore ahead before the bridge results in 1 less frame of boost

[solar bear]

Yeah I noticed that

It might be helpful to not full chain on the boost panels in order to start the mt further left

[solar bear]

What did you actually change here

Because I know I was very close to the next ms saved and you must've changed just one frame somewhere

Ok I found it lol

You changed 7, 7 to 7, 0 and saved 1 ms on the last turn with better turn qm

[olive totem]

yeah the single input i changed before the cut basically didn’t save anything, maybe 0.07ms at best. all the timesave basically came from a better last turn

[olive totem]

791

[warped geode]

Delaying the wheelie as late as possible at the mt release after mud cut is faster

[heavy pawn]

I also noticed that

why does that happen?

[solar bear]

Low roll rotation

[olive totem]

oh you beat the qm lock

nice

[warped geode]

nah

didn't use improvement before bridge

787

[olive totem]

wym

did you not use this later wheelie strat then?

[warped geode]

No

[olive totem]

oh, then where did 4ms come from

[warped geode]

37.786

new slipdrift strat last turn

[olive totem]

785

[olive totem]

tried to beat the qm lock earlier bur couldn’t, you need to be >1.1ms ahead atleast

[warped geode]

this is more than 1.1 ms

[olive totem]

i got the same thing but by the time i got to the end of the bridge, for good alignment, i was only ~1.1ms iirc

maybe i did something wrong, but in any case i think you'd need about 2.5-3ms total, going from what i remember on the mc3 boost panel

[warped geode]

alright

regarding last turn, it should be faster to shroom a couple frames earlier (cause we aren't releasing the mt as soon as possible rn)

but i was unable to get a good stick on the grass for the slipdrift

[olive totem]

yeah that's a good point, i'll try that now

[warped geode]

with this pre-bridge improvement i also tried to carry it somehow

by using the improvement to change yaw at the end of the bridge

(losing time to keep the good qm)

in the hopes that having more left yaw would let me release the following miniturbo 1f earlier, by getting rid of a countersteer frame in the drift

but i struggled with the chain drift at the grassy corner, couldn't do much

[olive totem]

there's no way that pre bridge improvement is faster, you get 1f less boost panel and end up like 2ms behind

[warped geode]

changed yaw by doing a half chain to swivel the vehicle a bit

let me explain myself better hang on

so instead of using the improvement to just be more forward than the ghost (we know this doesn't work), i tried making use of it by using it to change my yaw before the end of the bridge. doing this (needs a half chain) loses a bit of time, so you end up even with the ghost forward-wise, and get the good boost qm

does that make sense or no

[olive totem]

makes more sense but im not seeing the vision on it being faster

i do tend to be wrong on a lot of things as i favour simpler things so do try this out

[warped geode]

the idea is to release the mt 1f earlier

but because of the layout of the next turns, that could be slower idk

[quartz swallow]

wait are you implementing a tech on this turn

just remembered that it existed

[warped geode]

Which turn

[quartz swallow]

exiting dirt cut

[warped geode]

Campbell forgot to use it but I was messing with it earlier and QM seems to make it useless

On the last turn we turn left in the 2nd half of the miniturbo boost so idk if it would do anything

^ to be more perpendicular to the finish line

[solar bear]

I always forget about a tech

[olive totem]

@warped geode how hard was that slip drift strat you did in the 786

[warped geode]

I got it first try

But then couldn't replicate it with other shroom timings as I said

[warped geode]

Either didn't get a stick, or got a stick without a 1f airtime pocket

[solar bear]

What’s so bad about more airtime

[warped geode]

Wdym

You need airtime

[solar bear]

Oh I misread

[warped geode]

Well you either get 1 or you get like 7

which severely delays your mt charge and ruins the turn

[olive totem]

i got a 200ms improvement before the final shroom but couldnt resync

shrooming 4 frames earlier is sort of close to the current fastest ghost if you delay it by 1 frame

[warped geode]

??

[olive totem]

200ms my ass

sorry im a bit drunk rn

0.2ms

if you delay the current 785 by 1f, and shroom 1f earlier, you can come close to resyncing

but im also getting bad roll at the mt release, so im not sure if its viable

[balmy turret]

200 microseconds 🔥

[quartz swallow]

if only mu was easy to type

[warped geode]

Cool

[paper rivet]

a bit more improvement, couldn't carry it tho, even by shrooming earlier or later

[olive totem]

i cannot replicate ejay's strat with an earlier shroom, the hop qm and wheelie qm is weird. this is the best i got with an earlier shroom

[quartz swallow]

Hey still -0.001

[olive totem]

if we ignore the 4ms loss, then yes!

im just gonna try carry alego's ghost without a delayerd shroom

[warped geode]

nooooo my beautiful strat

[olive totem]

i was actually able to replicate your strat with alego's ghost but for some reason when i strarted the drift i got like 7f of airtime and as a result went super wide

that being said i delayed the shroom by 2-3f to try and match the position of your ghost iirc

[warped geode]

i got the slip off alego's ghost with a 1f delayed shroom

[warped geode]

.782 with slip

[warped geode]

better 782 that gets rid of the frame of wheelie turning before shroom

[olive totem]

couldnt improve by anything meaningful. tried shrooming earlier but only lead to a 792, shrooming later led to a 787

[warped geode]

we should wait until corvid eventually has a look at this

[solar bear]

I have maybe a 1 ms improvement but can't carry it on last turn

[olive totem]

did you save more time before the bridge

[solar bear]

It was after bridge

[olive totem]

oh is that the uphill on the final turn

[solar bear]

I also have a much further left landing at the dockless sc but haven't been able to make it faster for now

[olive totem]

thought that was the section just after bridge

[solar bear]

Yes

[olive totem]

send both ghosts, i'll try stuff in a sec

[solar bear]

1 ms improvement before last turn

[solar bear]

Further left landing

The problem with this one is that it contacts the br wall which causes you to move 5 kmh slower for several frames

[solar bear]

It should be faster if you can avoid that

[olive totem]

might have gotten smth with this

[olive totem]

nvm i suck i cant get this last turn to turn enough

[warped geode]

Is your improvement the ghost

cause the player looks behind

[olive totem]

it's a slight improvement

only about 0.4ms ahead iirc

[warped geode]

so yes?

[olive totem]

holy shit i can't read whoops

no the player is the rkg he sent

[warped geode]

No shot the player is ahead there

[olive totem]

i think it looks behind because the ghost got a pocket of airtime or smth

[warped geode]

How

[olive totem]

anyway i think this is a slight improvement but still not much

u can probs save the 1ms if u can actually get a good turn but i cant do it

i can't get the turn to be as tight as your 782, might be a rotation or yaw issue

[solar bear]

What do you mean

You can see the ghost's back

And compare the shadows

[warped geode]

Does the ghost get airtime

because otherwise the bandana and exhaust pipes would not be visually ahead by so much

[solar bear]

The ghost does get a different bounce

[sharp drum]

781

[warped geode]

does this still use the same last turn strat

with the wheelie + slip

[sharp drum]

Yes

[solar bear]

Has anyone tried using this

I was also able to get a 1 frame sooner landing but it always bounced

[olive totem]

did you use my ghost

iirc i was like 1ms ahead after the slip

[sharp drum]

I worked off this

Saved 2 ms between dock and last turn but lost most of it to get good qm so only saved 1 ms overall

[warped geode]

i think the qm is better on mine

[warped geode]

did you try this

like, was that part of what you did to get 2ms ahead

[sharp drum]

No I just had better lines

[warped geode]

I wonder if that + whatever else you did would be enough to trigger the bridge boost panel 1f earlier

[sharp drum]

Maybe idk

[warped geode]

i can test that shortly

[sharp drum]

778

[olive totem]

did you just carry campbells improvement

from the dock*

[sharp drum]

No

I delayed the wheelie like ejay said which saved a little and removed the slowdown before the last turn

[warped geode]

W

[crisp sandal]

tried to improve the bridge - last shroom and couldn’t at all

did these attempts days ago, and seeing the inactivity here made me wanna share that in the hopes it may motivate others to try or to call it finished

[radiant kettle]

ty for trying. i would imagine that it's done since jack has looked at the ending quite thoroughly

[warped geode]

have you looked?

[radiant kettle]

not at all. i prob should but not feeling motivated to do rds

[wooden tapir]

rDS is such a snoozer i been sayin ts

[warped geode]

@radiant kettle would you kindly examine the end of the run so that we can call it done

good to have your thumbs up

[radiant kettle]

i don't think i can be bothered after all sorry

just call it done lmao

[warped geode]

damn

[warped geode]

ok well who uploads this

[wooden tapir]

i dont think i even did anything in the final run 💔 just give it to corvid or something i guess

or mitch or foss or whatever

[quartz swallow]

You started the project though so you’re default

[jovial pond]

im gonna try for like 15 minutes bc im bored but i doubt i'll get anything

how close are we to the next milisecond?

im around 0.02 frames ahead entering the shortcut. doubt that's enough to send the ghost for lmao

[warped geode]

Not useful

[jovial pond]

ok then yeah i couldn't get anything either

[olive totem]

last turn qm locked anyway to a large degree

[jovial pond]

i can tell lmao

[olive totem]

only place i can think of something being useful is the turn straight after the bridge, maybe something to do with better boost distribution but idk

[jovial pond]

i feel like we gotta get 777 but i doubt it's happening as it stands

[olive totem]

has anyone tried working on the first turn after the bridge? afaik campbell showed the strat and not much testing was done afterwards

[solar bear]

If you want to improve before the shortcut you should try this ghost #1374041626246123581 message

[solar bear]

Seems like nearly the whole millisecond lol

[warped geode]

Wdym

Isn't that what everyone's been working on for the last multiple weeks

[olive totem]

probs wrong but i swear most of the work has been on the double shortcut / last 2 turns

[solar bear]

What exactly do you mean by first turn after bridge

The reo and first mt?

[olive totem]

yeah, and the subsequent chain i suppose

i was wondering if better boost distribution on it can be useful

[warped geode]

the turn after the bridge is part of the last 2 turns

[solar bear]

I do remember that ejay and luke used a slightly different reo strat before justin introduced the left trick dock strat

I wonder if it might be faster

[warped geode]

I improved upon it

#tas-strats message

[warped geode]

Luke didn't work on that

I thought

He just edited the last turn

[olive totem]

yeah, but i mean after campbell did a new strat where he went into the offroad slightly

did anyone try changing the strat further

[solar bear]

Well he had the last ghost before justin redid the 2nd shroom

Either way that reo had a wheelie in the middle instead of entirely drifting

Which might give a straighter line throughout that mt?

[warped geode]

I spent hours trying to re-add the wheelie and didn't have success

[solar bear]

Ok that's good to know

I'm only saying this because I haven't tried it

[warped geode]

Not to say that I'm ruling it out

Adding the wheelie starts the airtime at a different frame I think

[sharp drum]

There's a pretty bad qm lock on the last turn. It's also getting pretty tough to carry improvements past the bridge. I think it's good to call it done. 777 is probably possible if you improved the lap entry and resynced the rest of the lap but I doubt anyone cares to do that

[olive totem]

dont think a better start matters, there's some ~3ms qm lock halfway through

and before that there's another

[heavy pawn]

is the straight hard qm locked?

couldnt you enter the lap 3ms later and if possible improve first 2 turns to be equal in the town and sync

[olive totem]

i’m pretty sure the airtime for the slip after the 3rd mt is also qm locked although i have no idea how much you’d need to lose / save

[heavy pawn]

i know it is

[olive totem]

also, since you’d be delaying by less than a frame other qm could get screwed like the dock trick

[heavy pawn]

not really if you sync well enough

i dont know how improvable the first 2 turns are though and if the straight is qm locked

if it is also qm locked then its probably not possible

[olive totem]

i guess we can try

nothing else to try atp

[radiant kettle]

i am pretty sure we stick as late as possible already try it again ig

[solar bear]

Whoever gets 777 gets to upload

[jovial pond]

Thx for the motivation

[jovial pond]

update: i didnt get 777 but i got 0.003 faster 🙂

totally useful

[solar bear]

0.003 ms?

[jovial pond]

i missed a few zeroes hold on

lmao

0.0003*

[jovial pond]

i did get a hopless slipdrift on the last turn

(i think its called a slipdrift sry if thats wrong)

[viscid pine]

Hate to be this guy at the end of a flap but has anyone tested if it’s faster for the bridge to be up instead of flat because the trick boost is pretty op

[radiant kettle]

flat bridge is even more op (ghost is l1 of 3lap)

[viscid pine]

Alright interesting thanks for testing

[radiant kettle]

np

[jovial pond]

Cursed comparison lmao

[wooden tapir]

me when im racing the flamboyant flying funky flamerunner and he genuninely uses his ultimate on me but still loses

[jovial pond]

.

[cold jay]

Needed another genuinely in there somewhere

[wooden tapir]

true!

[jovial pond]

genuinely me when im genuinely racing the flamboyant flying funly flamerunner and he genuinely uses his ultimate on me but genuinely still loses

genuinely

[solar bear]

Lowkirkenuinely

[quartz swallow]

@magic tide I found you a friend

[magic tide]

whatever bro

[calm bluff]

I'm pretty sure l2 bridge is faster than l1 bridge

[viscid pine]

.774 different mt strat before last shroom

last turn not super optimized and maybe the mt strat is improvable too

ill send a ghost comparison

[wooden tapir]

cant believe this is faster 😭

good shit

[quartz swallow]

Awkward lines always looking awkward

[solar bear]

Of course justin finds a new strat

[warped geode]

deceleration moment

i saved some time on the last turn

[warped geode]

772

idk if the wheelie turning is faster. you can get the same 2ms improvement without it

i tried for ages to improve the reo drift but nothing worked

[viscid pine]

770

i used a tech after the 2nd to last mt for a tighter line

[warped geode]

true!

[crisp sandal]

wow i'm amazed

seems like a Gluesing goldmine if i've ever seen one

@sharp drum save those ms 💪

[warped geode]

at 769

[warped geode]

nearly 768

[karmic tundra]

769 now?

[warped geode]

Yes

[karmic tundra]

ok

[warped geode]

Will send

768

[karmic tundra]

very nearly 767?

[warped geode]

must be

[karmic tundra]

got 767

[sharp drum]

I'll try in a few days 👍

[viscid pine]

This may seem like a confusing improvement so i hope what i say makes sense:

I optimized my qm of the last frame on the boost panel, which i did by wheelie turning on the bridge and going all the way to the right of the boost panel, so that I baaaarely touch the edge of it. This makes it so that i can cut off the grass a bit more. In addition, going all the way to the right of the boost panel minimizes the distance between the bridge and the main road, which also allows me to cut off more of the grass and save time in general.

Work on optimizing the mini turbo if possible. I haven't tested different hop timings at the moment. I think theres a chance a different hop timing is better

[warped geode]

Man I fucking tried that and I kept getting slow down from the grass at the end

Good job

[viscid pine]

that mightve been because of bad boost panel qm

[warped geode]

When you say barely touch the edge of it do you mean like, you left the bridge 1f later than the ghost

[viscid pine]

yeah

[warped geode]

maybe I just barely missed it

[viscid pine]

I think it’s ideal to start the hop earlier

[warped geode]

Surely that would also cause slowdown

[heavy pawn]

I got an improvement but I'll optimize a bit more before I send

[warped geode]

see if you can AGC the ending with this #1374041626246123581 message or at least semi match it

now that the new miniturbo strat allows us to be further left entering the last turn

[karmic tundra]

761

I think 75x is also possible.

[heavy pawn]

Yes it is

[heavy pawn]

@karmic tundra Could you try off this ghost?

I think it'd be 75x if you save 0.05f before the shroom

[karmic tundra]

When I perform the final drift, I inevitably end up hovering for quite a long time.
Before going into a last drift, I think there might be a better angle
or, I wonder if there is room for further improvement before last drift

[warped geode]

Do you mean you get lots of airtime before the slipdrift?

[heavy pawn]

yeah i think so

since that ghost gets bad QM

slightly too slow

[karmic tundra]

yes

[heavy pawn]

@karmic tundra Did you get any improvements leading up to the shroom?

Even small ones?

Feel free to send any since I might try again soon

[karmic tundra]

I couldn't find any improvements.

[heavy pawn]

@sharp drum @pale vault @radiant kettle could you try if you have time.

[karmic tundra]

761 now.
I think this one is just a fraction faster than the 761 I sent earlier.

[heavy pawn]

I won't be able to try til night time so maybe someone else can pick up on it. Nice job anyhow!

[shy eagle]

are these improvements like viable for 3lap?

or is it still better to just double mt

[pale vault]

3lap doesnt have a flat bridge

[shy eagle]

at no point?

[heavy pawn]

no lap has flat bridge

[shy eagle]

a

i thought it had it

[cold jay]

When is 3lap getting redone

[sharp drum]

I will this weekend and I'll look at the 3lap as well

[olive totem]

got the 75x

i'll send soon

[olive totem]

758

earlier shroom, also 0.1ms away from a 757 but i gtg somewhere

[warped geode]

Great work

[olive totem]

757

[sharp drum]

756

[pale vault]

745

[warped geode]

??

[sharp drum]

Lmao nice job

[jovial pond]

Paul is the goat 🪑

[warped geode]

744, close to 743

[pale vault]

When resyncing I did also notice that the previous run slowed down more than it needed to before this slip. Can prolly start optimizing from here

[warped geode]

What is the improvement then?

[pale vault]

wdym

[warped geode]

in numbers

[pale vault]

do you mean what i did differently in the 745

fym in numbers -11ms ig 😭

[warped geode]

What is the ghost you just sent

It sounds like you found an improvement to the slipdrift but couldn't carry it or something

[pale vault]

Yeah the 745 is just the 756 resynced instead of actually optimizing everything

[warped geode]

I never looked at Jack's ghost, would that explain why I'm confused

[pale vault]

I just wanted to put it out there that we can save some time on the slip and start optimization again form there

[warped geode]

Did he do something other than save 0.001 on the last turn?

[pale vault]

idk either

[warped geode]

what did you resync exactly

i worked on your ghost earlier and it looked like you just improved the reo drift section to save 0.011
didn't compare your ghost to the 756 because it takes quite a while for me to do that with my tasing setup, so i was just going off of memory

[pale vault]

The 756 from this slip before the first shroom onwards

[warped geode]

didn't notice anything else

[pale vault]

wait..

this is what I did

[warped geode]

Ok let me boot up my pc and load the ghost you just sent

wait what???

the whole flap setup changed

oh that's the improvement LOL

i didn't fucking notice it when I sent my ghost above because I was afk while it loaded and returned to the screen mid-way through the flap lmao

[radiant kettle]

how the fuck do you do flap entries

[warped geode]

Ok I see now.

The ghost you just sent is an attempt at saving like 1ms at the dock. May or may not be usable depending on if it can be successfully carried or not

The QM at the last boost panel could prevent it

yeah even being ahead of the ghost by a fraction of a millisecond means you don't get the final frame of boost

[pale vault]

pick a good ms and pray that the qm isnt shit

I only got the full stick on the straight before the fountain 4ms later again and that was too far behind to catch up.

[radiant kettle]

NO LIKE IGENUINELY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU'RE STARTING AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE

why am i screaming

[pale vault]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[radiant kettle]

i swear i tried to improve the entry and i just couldn't get anything viable, i can't fathom there being 10 ms i missed

[pale vault]

Going tighter to the wall gives you air again

[radiant kettle]

you can go as tight as possible and still stick

can you start the flap with a line like that? then it's still improvable but you will need to start the setup at a different place to change qm

[pale vault]

ik thats what I did when I tried a lap entry at 53.024 (didnt work out)

[radiant kettle]

(i didn't watch your ghost i'm on lc)

[pale vault]

743

[warped geode]

did you carry the ms

bring back posting information alongside rkgs....

[pale vault]

I just optimized the end

[warped geode]

of my ghost?

[pale vault]

yes

[warped geode]

it's really weird I have no intuition for what path is best during the shroom

you can just get such a variety of turns with the slipdrift

and then sometimes the best line is ruined by QM at the corner so you have to take the next best line

[olive totem]

is this run done then

[sharp drum]

Saved 0.2 ms on the last turn

[pale vault]

Given the qm lock on the boost panel this run should be finished

Who's uploading? Justin perhaps?

[warped geode]

he found two major strat changes, appropriate

and then maybe you can upload 3lap when it's done

[wooden tapir]

i wanna say good job but you never know when justin shows up with another timesave 😭😭

[pale vault]

Corvid started the project and he put more hours in I'll assume, so I'm leaving it up to him

[heavy pawn]

corvid has been working on 3lap since he started tasing almost

though im curious does ryan have inputs in the 3lap?

[wooden tapir]

who is ryan

[pale vault]

sorry

[heavy pawn]

sorry

[wooden tapir]

ohh

[radiant kettle]

no problem

[pale vault]

would need to search in the depths of tas files prolly

[radiant kettle]

rds fucking sucks man i don't care lmao

[wooden tapir]

i agree!!!

[radiant kettle]

i can take rds and you have dks and our ultra secret thing later ig

[heavy pawn]

i feel like corvid would know off the top of his head if he referenced his ghost L1

[radiant kettle]

you and ryan should have inputs at the start of l1 still yeah

i just started trying to improve your ghost, got stuck trying to figure out slip qm, ragequit for a year+

[pale vault]

@wooden tapir btw I'm sorry for voiding ur inputs here 😔

[wooden tapir]

? wdym

oh they werent important dw lmaooo

[radiant kettle]

wait do i even have inputs in this flap after all

[wooden tapir]

i dont know why i bothered tryna do this ESPICIALLY back in may 2025 or whenever i started this

was not equipped at all

[pale vault]

town section probably since I resynced that from the new l2 of the 3lap

[heavy pawn]

voided? He still drove the lap leading up to the flap

[radiant kettle]

makes sense. i'm not sure i even have inputs for the stairs there lmao but at least the slip i did

[pale vault]

wasnt that luke

[wooden tapir]

that was luke

[heavy pawn]

oh maybe

[wooden tapir]

i quite literally have nothing yeah

its okay though its better that way

[heavy pawn]

How long til its uploaded? I wanna look at the ghost when im home

is there time for that

[pale vault]

we dont even know who's uploading atm

[heavy pawn]

ok ill look at the ghost in a couple hours then if theres anything left

[pale vault]

we could probably upload all the finished runs on april 1st

[calm bluff]

so all of the town section got voided? Or what was the 3lap town section built off of

[olive totem]

who currently has inputs then

[jovial pond]

is this considered fini;shed?

[heavy pawn]

just got home ill try for a bit

[heavy pawn]

I saved an extra 0.15ms but nothing useful

pretty sure its done yeah'

[olive totem]

only thing i can think of to save more time is shrooming earlier for better boost distribution but im pretty sure theres no way to get good qm for the slip

[warped geode]

corvid said this but i couldn't find any file of this sent by him in the thread

Currently I have:

Pre-town:
Corvid
Sorry
Paul
Luke

Town:
all authors of 3lap's l2 town section, which referenced this flap itself: Luke, Alego, Corvid, Paul

Post-town:
Campbell
Ejay
Justin
Aoiro
Alego
Foss
Ego
Jack
Paul

[warped geode]

to note: the lap 2 of the 3lap was based off of the lap 1 of the 3lap, which was based off of the NG flap

[solar bear]

Was the town section entirely rewritten and replaced by the 3lap?

And was any of the 3lap's inputs taken from the flap

[warped geode]

#1374041626246123581 message

There were kind of two flap beginnings. A WIP by Luke (which was then edited by Alego and (maybe?) Corvid), and ninxout's one (had multiple other contributors, but never used cause it was slower)

the 3lap town used Luke's version as a reference

And then after Paul improved the flap entry, he resynced the rest with the 3lap town, which itself was synced with the flap. so it's circular

[quartz swallow]

was it not luke+cesar? or was cesar's ghost never used

[warped geode]

uhh I didn't see anything about Cesar in this thread

[quartz swallow]

it was a separate thread

[warped geode]

cesar loses time to luke after first turn

so he wouldn't have had inputs here

Luke's wip was a solo one that went up to the slip afaik

[quartz swallow]

ninxout made this one for his own project and cesar's was meant to be the main bkt thread but then ninxout let everyone in on his and so this one became the main thread

but yeah youre right i think

[pale vault]

Absolutely for anything starting from the stair stick, but before that tho... Every hop timing on the 3 turns before the slip are different. The line into the slip is also much wider while the 3lap goes tight w/ a quickhop. I aint catching up 5ms until the town slip by just doing the same thing as before

[viscid pine]

I don’t really feel like uploading it myself plus I sent like 2 ghosts

If no one feels like uploading it to their channel either then I suggest making it a taslabz upload

[solar bear]

I'm somewhat interested in uploading it considering that I've worked on this more than I have other tases, but I know that doesn't necessarily make me a primary author here compared to some of the other contributors

[quartz swallow]

you did come up with the shroomstrat change so it makes sense for you to upload if you want imo

[warped geode]

Sure

[solar bear]

Alright how do I use the pycore framedump scripts

Is there a written document somewhere

[zinc compass]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTXoEveB_1MZ3WizOpEWvZ-oyJMgg-3pRLGiNu-5vo853BMcrr8RY69REcTsheurI9qS2kfqrx1BZkT/pub

[solar bear]

Thanks

This should really be added to #resources somewhere

[zinc compass]

yeah

[solar bear]

It will read settings from the file config.ini in the Scripts/FrameDumps folder. You can also drag and drop any .ini file onto the encoder.py script, to use it as the config file.
If you don’t have a config.ini file, a default one will be created and used.

?

Do I need to make my own config.ini with all of the parameters

Or can someone share their config.ini so I don't have to manually write everything in

And the tutorial doc mentions some parameters aren't going to be mentioned so I kinda need that

[solar bear]

Running the framedump script appears to just do a regular framedump for me

Without creating the ini

[solar bear]

Thank you

Have any bgm recommendations?

[radiant kettle]

let me think

[zinc compass]

hollow by pantera

or a game bgm ig

[solar bear]

There's one pokemon theme I'm trying to find but I forgot the name

[radiant kettle]

https://youtu.be/L_eoG5cRyiI?t=28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY_NqrM-d5g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8cPDpXnQa0 indie roguelike pick one of three edition

[zinc compass]

i like the first one

[solar bear]

https://youtu.be/Bt81qPORKrk?si=YXN-3An2PicsrHuC

Kass's theme is good too

[solar bear]

Or the ultimate remix https://youtu.be/diCG3S2GgVE

[solar bear]

Ok new problem

Even with config.ini, I can't get the framedump script to do anything other than a regular framedump

[balmy turret]

the youtube setting should make it into an mp4

[solar bear]

Where is the mp4 dumped?

[balmy turret]

uh I think the path is specified in the config?

I'm not certain though actually it's been a while

[solar bear]

There is an output filename

The config corvid gave me just has "output.mp4" so I don't think the directory is specified there?

[balmy turret]

um if no one responds I'll check my config when I get home

[zinc compass]

this will just put it in the root

/FrameDumps

[zinc compass]

but also not sure why this is happening

can you send your encoder.py

[zinc compass]

it doesn't match https://github.com/Blounard/mkw-scripts/blob/main/scripts/FrameDumps/encoder.py

which i'm pretty sure is the latest one

try to copy &paste that one

[solar bear]

Yeah it looks like I have some outdated scripts

I'll try this

Same problem :/

Still dumping avi in the normal frame dump folder and with no onscreen settings

[balmy turret]

I think by default it dumps to this folder, which is different user/dump/frames iirc

[zinc compass]

that's for normal dumps

for the encoded One, for me atleast, It puts the mp4 in the same folder

[solar bear]

Going to try a fresh reinstall of pycore

[solar bear]

Also if this is the latest set of scripts, then this means that the latest pycore available to download (beta v245) has outdated scripts

[pale vault]

ok hold on

[pale vault]

in the Scripts folder there is a script called update_scripts for this

[pale vault]

This is not the latest one however

The latest scripts are on my repo since Blou didnt want to update his for whatever reason. So you can replace the url in that update_scripts script to link to my fork.
url = 'https://github.com/xAntares17/mkw-scripts/archive/refs/heads/main.zip'

[zinc compass]

oops

my bad

[solar bear]

Ok

[pale vault]

btw the encoding happens after the framedump is created. your encoder script probably crashed instantly because Corvid's config (which is up to date) doesnt match what the old scripts expect

[solar bear]

Ok that sounds more promising

I'll try again in a sec

[solar bear]

Unfortunately, same issue

All of the scripts are up to date, but I still only get normal frame dumps

[solar bear]

I do notice that a terminal window opens whenever I stop the frame dump script, but I can't see what it says before it closes

Which is when the encoder script is supposed to run

[pale vault]

run the encoder script again and tell me the error

I'm betting 10 citrus coins that this is another audio related one

[solar bear]

Ok this is interesting

I'll try doing it without authors?

[pale vault]

maybe ur authors.txt isnt formatted correctly

can u send whats in there

[solar bear]

I still get that error if I turn off author list in the config

I'll try commenting out the code and running it?

Actually wait this is referenced many times

[pale vault]

yeah thats correct. is extra display on? (that shouldnt be in the config by default but it is in corvid's)

[solar bear]

I managed to get the config to auto generate now so I'll try that

[solar bear]

This is true in both corvid's and the auto generated file

I didn't get any better results with it false

[pale vault]

lmfao ok I reproduced it

and removing the newline at the end in the authors.txt fixed it

so that should be the fix for you as well hopefully

[solar bear]

Wait

That actually worked lmao

[pale vault]

[solar bear]

(Test frame)

[pale vault]

actually u can go back to corvid's config since that wasnt the issue

you dont need to redo the dump everytime btw

you can just do the dump once and then just rerun the encoder to test stuff out

[solar bear]

Thanks so much for helping

[pale vault]

no worries

[warped geode]

added to resources

[solar bear]

This a good setup?

I will redo with the minimap and without the ghost tag of course

[quartz swallow]

i would recommend making sorry, paul, foss, and ego's names lowercase

also maybe make names smaller (you want the gap between the item frame and the first name to be the same as the gap between input display and the last name)

[warped geode]

Make the input display a bit smaller and the names smaller

See how small the names are here, yet still very readable

[solar bear]

Better?

I can get the names centered a bit better between the item frame and input display

[balmy turret]

I think names being left aligned with the left edge of the shroom box could be good tbh

but the size looks great to me

spacing is good too imo

[warped geode]

the spacing could be better tbh

Luke's name is overlapping with paul's

ego's name is a lot closer to jack than foss

actually i would do the following:

put everyone's names in a single text block, so that they're all automatically aligned in all aspects

then duplicate the text block to make 12 copies on the timeline

and mask each version to only contain 1 name

from there you can adjust opacity individually as desired

[balmy turret]

I think he's using the framedump script which automatically adds the names lol

[solar bear]

^

I'm not sure if there's an option to change the spacing between names

[balmy turret]

yeah you would probably have to dig into the actual code which is a lot

[solar bear]

Other than changing the font

I'll put paul and luke on different lines though

No letter overlap if paul is above sorry

[warped geode]

what frame is 4695

is that the slipdrift before dock

[warped geode]

oh well, my method is the superior one for manual naming then i guess

[solar bear]

Yes

[solar bear]

I made the the author list based on this message

"Town" starting at just before the second turn and ending at the slip drift before dock

[warped geode]

sounds good

[olive totem]

looks good to me

[solar bear]

Can anyone explain this?

Not exactly a problem but it's strange how the video is 4/15ths larger than specified

[solar bear]

https://youtu.be/eFR4L1nP3NU

[wooden tapir]

good job yall

[solar bear]

Damn I forgot to include "flap" in the title lol

[wooden tapir]

unironically learned a lot from yall doing what i was doing better than i could :D

[solar bear]

I'll mention you in the description

Helped keep this project going

[wooden tapir]

cm will be my ng tas fr fr ong

[solar bear]

I'm glad I finally got to try out pycore encoding at least

[viscid pine]

It’s .743 not .473

[wooden tapir]

loll

[viscid pine]

(In title)

[solar bear]

Shoot

At least I got the thumbnail right

[warped geode]

You tagged the wrong channel for aoiro

[solar bear]

How many aoiros are there lol

[warped geode]

@karmic tundra

oops

[karmic tundra]

@ aoiro_mkw

[solar bear]

Nice

[warped geode]

i meant to say @ Aoiro_mkw

looks like the notification updates to reflect title edits? that's good

edit the message in #bkt-feed by adding an ampersand or something to the end of the url

it will update cache

@solar bear

[solar bear]

Done

[warped geode]

cool

thanks for uploading

gj everyone

[pale vault]

i'm relatively sure this is bc resize_style (one option below) is set to none

[warped geode]

Love the thumbnail btw Campbell

[gritty oak]

Crazy to see this finally being finished

[sharp drum]

Forgot sorry's channel in the description

[solar bear]

Fixed

[wooden tapir]

i think you owe him an apology

[solar bear]

True

I might have to say sorry

[rose mantle]

But don’t say “I’m sorry” cuz they are sorry

[terse python]

Are you sorry?