lost-ark-help

[slate zephyr]

also what you mean by this?

[broken trellis]

i think the skin in the beta was 23usd, came with weapon and full set,

[vapid sand]

How was it in KR and RU?

[slate zephyr]

beta are just test prices fyi

[broken trellis]

ofc, but its all we have to go off of,

[slate zephyr]

about 20-25usd for the basic stuff, can go as high as 40usd packages.

[vapid sand]

I see ok thanks! But probably not gonna be like 5-10 it sounds like 😂

[slate zephyr]

hmmm

that probably will just be for 1 thing, like a wep skin or a hat

there will be free skins anyway, from events

at least the animal/creature ones were always free from events, not sure if AGS will be generous to include even more

[valid badger]

since bard is such a slow start in the beginning, is it better to go with another class until a little later then go back to bard?

[maiden locust]

Story isnt long to begin with so ull be finr going bard

[slate zephyr]

it doesn't matter, supports just naturally a bit slower to start thats all

[maiden locust]

It juat takes a little bit more time but thats not the end of the world

[slate zephyr]

and yeah going back later won't help you needing to still do the msq/zones

[valid badger]

ohh ok tyty

and one tricking is fine in this game right

[slate zephyr]

one char?

[valid badger]

yeah

[slate zephyr]

not super optimal, best to still have at least 1 other alt

[scenic falcon]

you can buy extra character slots right

[valid badger]

oo okok and alts i heard are easy to build up right?

[candid flicker]

which server do russian speakers go to?

[slate zephyr]

like for the weekly questing, you'll miss out on the best reward with only 1 char @valid badger

[maiden locust]

Not really, if you dont care about falling behind then it is

[slate zephyr]

yeah, but you get 6 slots free already.

[scenic falcon]

do we know the character cap for una's tasks?

[valid badger]

ohh i see

[scenic falcon]

is it 10 like KR

[slate zephyr]

for AGS launch? check the doc.

[valid badger]

thanks guys

[maiden locust]

Theres no cap for una right?

[slate zephyr]

there is no character cap for it

[maiden locust]

Its why having more alts the better

No cap on chaos dungeon guardian raids and una

[candid flicker]

Thank you

[subtle compass]

if i buy the foudners pack with a vpn, can i play it without a vpn or do i need it to have on constantly?

[scenic falcon]

i thought there was a weekly cap on una's tasks

[slate zephyr]

unknown yet for launch, but most likely still need vpn active

[maiden locust]

Need it constantly

[subtle compass]

damn okay

[valid badger]

oh wait so if you do weekly stuff on multiple accounts its pretty much duping loot?

[maiden locust]

On multiple characters and yes

[slate zephyr]

oh you mean completing the weekly quest, that's for per character.
and it's only for the daily, not weekly, since each char only has 3 chances for the weekly

[valid badger]

ohhh makes sense and you can give the stuff thats corelated to the character

[maiden locust]

Alts kinda become mandatory if you dont wanna slow down super hard in t3

But if you dont care about that u can vibe with 1

[valid badger]

and you can transfer loot

[maiden locust]

Yep

[slate zephyr]

multi accounting is not actually that useful, since you gotta grind everything again lol, so no "duping" lol

[maiden locust]

Upgrade mats most impoetantly

[subtle compass]

have you guys bought the founders pack? and if yes, which one?

[slate zephyr]

can trade if they aren't char bound

[maiden locust]

Plat is the most popular one according to steam

[valid badger]

i meant like getting gear for bard on a different class for example you can give that gear to the bard act

[subtle compass]

ohh okay

[maiden locust]

The actual gear u get wont be as important as upgrade mats

[slate zephyr]

those gear are char bound, and each class uses their own gear.

usually just grind them for mats

[valid badger]

ohh damn i see

[maiden locust]

Gear can go up to +25

[valid badger]

mats for upgrading stuff correct

[maiden locust]

And just upgrading once adds alot of gear score

Yep

[valid badger]

holy okok

[maiden locust]

Theres people with 24 characters doing that

[valid badger]

LOL

[maiden locust]

Tjeted people w more than 24 too actually

The rest system makes it possible to have a shitton of alts and still be able to make use out of all of them

Bless the rest system 🙏

[slate zephyr]

move on, stay on topic please

[atomic orchid]

will GvE be available right away?

[slate zephyr]

yes, but it's a weekly event

[atomic orchid]

right but only guild leader can participate, can he in theory do GvE before the first weekly reset to get credit for the week by himself?

[slate zephyr]

no a set numbers of guild members can participate(or even required), as long as they fit the requirement, and it usually happens on weekends, so frankly no one will get anything done for the headstart reset.

[atomic orchid]

isn't there some that 1-50 people can participate?

so himself being the 1 can do?

[slate zephyr]

that's for like far future content

they usually are much smaller

don't exactly remember, but somewhere around 16 v 16

there's many different ones

[atomic orchid]

GvE not GvG

[slate zephyr]

sadly I'm not exactly sure if it can even start with just 1 person....though unless that person is a MEGA whale and knows all the ticks, it's still impossible to win against a guild with more ppl

[atomic orchid]

no guild will have more than 1 person is my point

for the very first week

[slate zephyr]

there are gve that's group content too, but I guess the whale logic still applies

[atomic orchid]

because no one else can participate due to 3 day lockout but guild leader

[slate zephyr]

hmmm yeah I guess that's a first

[sly moss]

it only happen in the weekend anyways no?

3 days lockout should be gone by the time you can do em

[slate zephyr]

yeah, unless he's thinking about other stuff the guild master can do

[sly moss]

atleast for head starter

[maiden locust]

The reset is on thursday so ye not humanily possible to even do

[atomic orchid]

yes but if guild leader is 50 before thursday, can he do or is it just only on weekend?

[maiden locust]

Its in weekends

On*

[slate zephyr]

the actual events are not tied to weekly resets, if that's what you were worried about, only other guild stuff are tied to the reset.

[maiden locust]

And plently if people will be 50 by weekend and lockout will be gone

So there will be alotta participants

[worthy shale]

Can toxic players or communities affect a particular server in any way?

Or does the cross-server instances and all that make it so that your server doesnt matter in the long run

[summer gyro]

youll see it in the overworld chat more. but you can sidestep most of them by virtue of cross server systems

[scarlet sedge]

I was reading a guide about gear progression online. I am a bit confused. Do we have to get new gear when there is a new tier, and is the upgrade material something we should save and not use in tier 1?

[summer gyro]

you do swap to a new set of gear when you get into tier 2 (after + 15 tier 1), i believe most of the materials arent interchangeable, but some might be. Dont know for certain

[scarlet sedge]

ah okay thanks

[hexed moon]

i wanna ask can i get 50 without doing any side quest in eu version?

[slate zephyr]

different mats

[radiant ether]

can anyone here give me a clear answer on where to farm materials consistently? and how much you get of said materials

is that where alts come in?

[summer gyro]

likely, tho it hasnt been confirmed

[slate zephyr]

yeah, but might still need to do a few side quests at the last zone of Arthetine

[hexed moon]

thank you

[slate zephyr]

for upgrade mats, endgame content, and yes more alts will net you more mats overall

[radiant ether]

the guide on papunika is very confusing lol

[slate zephyr]

this https://papunika.com/material-resources/ ?

[radiant ether]

https://papunika.com/growth-guide/

this one, it says to just run chaos dungeon until you have a full set but I thought u can only do it once a day

[slate zephyr]

yeah, it's expected for newbies to have some confusion without seeing what it's like ingame.

twice a day for normal drops, but you can still run unlimited if you want.

[summer gyro]

thats for the set of gear, you still need upgrade materials (which you see where they are from in the growth resource page)

[sly moss]

2 runs is enough to get a full set 90% of the time

[slate zephyr]

what that guide meant is keep doing it everyday till you have full set, if you're unlucky on the first day, try again tomorrow.

also for T1, just finish the continent Shushire, and you'll get a free full set

but for T2 & T3, you'll need to grind manually.

[fallen mirage]

Should i upgrade every equipment (Weapon/Gloves...) individually first or all at the same time?

[kindred token]

All at same

The only exception are at 1415+ where weapon as priority sometimes +2 more than the rest of the equipment

[fallen mirage]

Ty!

[fresh patrol]

I heard that the class prologues were changed, haven't played lost ark in forever. is there any reward for actually doing it or is it pointless to not skip it

[oblique dove]

Bunny ears cosmetic

[slate sphinx]

Googles. You can level an alt with same class than your main, trade the googles and delete it.
If you are not worried to speed run. Complete the prologue

[fresh patrol]

is it bunny ears or goggles

bunny ears are worth it

[vast copper]

is it best to do shushire for a gear set or just chaos dungeon?

[slate sphinx]

Googles. Bunny ears is the prologue once you use the ticket to level up a char from start to 50 instantly

[fresh patrol]

but they are in the game, so I'll be able to get them on an alt?

[slate sphinx]

Sushire rewards you a full set of 302 items. You skip the first chaos dungeon and enter the next one.
If daily reset is close or less than 1-2 hours. You should do chaos dungeon. It will give you 302 set and extra mats.

[vast copper]

is the shushire set quality 100?

[boreal compass]

So what happened with summoner? It was in the beta but now we get sorc? Was summoner not ready?

[delicate meteor]

No, sorc was better choice

[slate sphinx]

In the end, you will need Sushire to unlock story and tps. Some una's tasks ask yo to go there

[boreal compass]

oh ok

[slate sphinx]

If you check popularity polls. Sorceress went to top

[delicate meteor]

Yea, she is way more fun to look at than Summoner

[boreal compass]

is sorc a strong pick? Or is it just preference of the skills?

[delicate meteor]

It's the visuals, classes are pretty much balanced. West players love their pure magicians and summoner is like ... a half breed.

[slate sphinx]

It's a good pick as Main or alt.

[boreal compass]

makes sense

[fresh patrol]

for people who plan to main classes that don't shine until pretty late in the gear progression process, what do you vet players think some good choices as a first to 50 class would be?

something like shadow hunter maybe?

[slate sphinx]

Level the class and get into tier t3 asap

[fresh patrol]

I thought you got a free skip or something

[granite hull]

Knowledge transfer

[slate sphinx]

You will need 600 golds

[boreal compass]

speaking of the whole early vs late game classes, What are some of the early game classes that shine earlier on?

[granite hull]

It hasn't even confirmed 100% yet eithe

[slate sphinx]

And it' not from scratch to T3 instantly.

[potent shoal]

do higher levels of chaos dungeons give more rewards?

thank yew

[granite hull]

Depends what you mean by early and late tbh. Some classes are easier/cheaper to build earlier than others but all classes are relevant throughout t1 to t3

[scarlet sedge]

For gear progression, t1 mats can't be used for t2 gear right? So no point in saving them(?)

[delicate meteor]

How would you save them? You will use them to upgrade gear, as soon as you upgrade into t2, you will not be receiving them, unless you run t1 with alts

But then you use them to upgrade alts

[scarlet sedge]

Ah I see, that's what I was asking, ty!

[delicate meteor]

You should always do the highest content available to you, so you will always be getting relevant upgrade materials

[maiden locust]

is there name change ticket later on?

[burnt dirge]

hello, actually I have no idea which server I have to enter or the guilds, can someone tell me a little?

[maiden locust]

are you na east or west?

[delicate meteor]

You can buy one from cash shop

[maiden locust]

ah okay thanks

[delicate meteor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/sgxuab/unofficial_server_guide_updated_31_jan_2022/

[burnt dirge]

east

[pale cypress]

i know this question may be asked several times but what exactly can i do and which i cant with friends from other servers
i know pve for queueing stuff is no problem but what about the rest

[delicate meteor]

you can do a lot of things, the only limitation you can't make parties across servers and invite people

but you can play with them using the group finder

[burnt dirge]

West, sorry

[maiden locust]

azena is going to be populated by half the server and there are rumours that asmon will play in that server. Una a lot of streamers that are noticeable are going, regulus is the 2nd largest server but no news on any big time streamers. avesta seems like a good option 2 but why join avesta when you have regulus?

[maiden locust]

are you oce? valtan is unoffical oce server. other than that you will see one server being more popular than the other one. So join the more popular one

[burnt dirge]

I understand, will I have some noticeable disadvantages by not being in a guild?

[maiden locust]

yes some mats

[burnt dirge]

hmm, how can i join a guild? I have noticed that many people already have one and are prepared

[pale cypress]

check #guild-recruitment or the specific channel, eu has one like this #eu-central-guild-recruitment

[obtuse wigeon]

Hi are there any benefits to making alt characters the same class as your main? Like items or points.
From my understanding, parties generally do not have 2x of the same class due to bonuses not stacking or something. So would it be worth making alts on different classes just for flexibility in parties, and if so how long does that take to work up to?

From my understanding you cannot change classes either

[cedar wharf]

It’s worth making alts of other classes so you don’t have to play the same all the time

[summer gyro]

usually people recommend having alts on different classes because its funner that way, get to shake things up with different classes. On the flip side, its technically more efficient to have alts on the same class cuz of engravings and other things. length to work up to depends on your current progress

[ornate dove]

how many char slots do we get at the start?

[cedar wharf]

6

[ornate dove]

im assuming you can get more?

[cedar wharf]

24 max

[ornate dove]

thanks

now my second question, how bad of an idea is it to make 6 bards day 1

[obtuse wigeon]

thanks this is what i was wondering, if farming stuff on alts helps the main more efficient if everything is the same class

[ornate dove]

cause thats all i plan on playing till artist is out

[summer gyro]

making them all is not a terrible idea because they will build their rest even at low level. making 6 bards sounds pretty monotonous

[cedar wharf]

Depends on you, you can make them, you should still focus on 1 for a while. You would save a bit of money on engravings. Artist might be a year plus away so it just sounds like a boring year

We can’t the name would be locked

[ornate dove]

ah its fine, i like bard as well, just wanted to know if its inting if i make only bards

[summer gyro]

by more efficient, i mean like 5% more efficient. its really not worth the lack of fun imo

[median dew]

No, the name will be locked

[maiden locust]

I know but you can delete the alt character when the game is released for all

[ornate dove]

so focus 1 and use the alts to get extra mats for my main yes? @cedar wharf

[pale cypress]

pvp arena/premade, basically with rng involved i can queue into my mates but i cant queue with them together?

[obtuse wigeon]

ok i c

[cedar wharf]

The name won’t free up

[ornate dove]

im coming from being hardcap gear on bdo, im fine with monotonous ;3

[summer gyro]

fer sure, i know people with 6 alts of the same class. i think its funner to play with different classes but its ultimately up to you

[cedar wharf]

Yes I’d still recommend you mix it up a bit. Never know if you find a class you enjoy and the benefit is not really there

[ornate dove]

gotcha, ill probably make 4 bards day 1 and save the 2 slots just in case i like something else

tryna learn as much as i can from videos before it releases so i can get to t3 n shit

[obtuse wigeon]

Say i start with one class and put like 300 hr into it but then work on an alt and decide I want that dfferent class to be my main, how long is the catchup? same amount of hours?

[summer gyro]

depends more on where you are in the content, since swapping mains requires pumping engravings and ilvl up to and past your current main. it can take anywhere from like a couple hours to weeks

[ornate dove]

oh yeah, are there like, daily caps for everything or is there something i can grind 24/7?

[summer gyro]

both, there are things you can only do daily/weekly and other things you can farm infinitely

[ornate dove]

what are the infinite ones specifically?

[summer gyro]

first one that comes to mind is chaos dungeon

[ornate dove]

iirc thats the one where its just a shit ton of mobs and you kill them yea?

[obtuse wigeon]

is this game controller friendly? been looking at gunslinger and im seeing a lot of weapon swapping and not sure how difficult that is on controller

[summer gyro]

yes, im not sure of other infinite options. usually people will just have another alt to run more efficient stuff than farming infinite chaos dungeon (except for some niche cases, like legendary engravings i think)

[ornate dove]

so what im hearing is i want like 20 alts so i can play efficiently and not have to run out of alts to run?

[summer gyro]

it does have native controller support, cant really comment on how it plays vs KBM

[summer gyro]

if you have 10-20 hours to play a day, and nothing else to do, yeah? although there is a lot of horizontal content to enjoy as well. this game isnt all about the vertical progression

by that point, just have multiple accounts so you atleast get gold from all those alts

[maiden locust]

quick question, when you join a guild is it with all the characters on your account or is it per character?

[ornate dove]

i usually grind 15-20 hours a day, so yeah thats most likely what ill do

[ornate dove]

whats that mean exactly?

[ornate dove]

per char iirc

[summer gyro]

only 6 characters generates gold from daily/weekly content currently per account

[ornate dove]

oh

how would multiple accounts work then?

[summer gyro]

there are also card runs now that i think about it, those are a great way to spend time once you have maxed literally everything else

[ornate dove]

and is that allowed?

[summer gyro]

log out of steam, log into new account, run it back. youll need to redo everything multiple times over, so its absolutely not worth realistically. but a great way to spend time

as to whether its allowed or not, i havent heard any comment one way or another. in KR its fine

[ornate dove]

oh no i meant how would i get the stuff on my main, and im just worried if its a grey area if i was able to get the stuff from the other acct to my main

on the other hand, if i dont get anything on my main from the alt acct, then i probably wont do it

[summer gyro]

i havent seen it too much, so i dont actually know. mail or maybe someone else knows a better way

[delicate meteor]

I think you can mail stuff

[ornate dove]

gotcha

ill find out if i get to that point of needing more to do ;3

[summer gyro]

just so you know, mailing accessories and gear would require pheons which can get real pricey

[ornate dove]

ingame pricey i assume?

[summer gyro]

yeah there is a lot of collectibles to get as well, youll be tied up with 1 account for months prolly even at those gametime levels

[ornate dove]

gotcha

[summer gyro]

in KR, its bought with blue crystals, the gold-exchanged-kinda-premium-kinda-not-currency. dunno how its going to be in na/eu

[ornate dove]

also how's the lifeskilling/is there an energy system like bdo?

[ornate dove]

gotchu

[summer gyro]

there is an energy system for lifeskills, yeah

[ornate dove]

sorry for all the questions, im v excited for somethin new to grind lmao

[ornate dove]

so you're capped, daily or does it recharge faster?

[summer gyro]

when legion raids drop, youll prolly end up doing those on your alts + dailies most of your playtime if you have more than like 3-4 alts

[summer gyro]

daily cap i believe, im not sure how it recharges exactly

[ornate dove]

gotchu so i shouldnt need another acct if im running 6 chars, theoretically?

[ornate dove]

ah ok sounds good

[summer gyro]

at only 6, nah you are fine with 1 account. and really thats the sweet spot for anything other than whales or giga try hards

[delicate meteor]

6chars will consume 4-5h a day with daily checklist, fyi

[ornate dove]

so theoretically ill need multiple, cause im categorizing myself in the giga tryhard area

[summer gyro]

6 characters is like... 3-6 hours of dailies every day + whatever time on weeklies (which can be 2-3 hours per character per week, iirc) so plenty of time spent on non-infinite stuff

[tight nexus]

for some reason I just confused myself right now, are sidequests account/server wide? meaning you do them once and never have to do them again?

[delicate meteor]

Yes, if you want to have more than 6, another account is better

[summer gyro]

really depends on your daily rotations and whatnot

[delicate meteor]

You can do them for quest rewards, but they only contribute once to adventure book and legacy

[summer gyro]

some rewards are server wide, but i think you can do the sidequests themselves on every character?

[ornate dove]

my plan is to be as sweaty as i am on bdo, so im assuming ill need multiple accts

[ornate dove]

gotchu

[tight nexus]

ahhh ok there it is ! the adventure book and legacy, knew i missed out something xD thanks for answers ! 😄

[delicate meteor]

check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLgmcoNfcfA

[summer gyro]

now currently in KR the ratio of alts to mains is about 6:1, you (ideally, or optimally, or try-hardy) want to have 5-6 alts per main. so if you can keep 12 alts running you could technically have 2 mains

[ornate dove]

yea i watched that one already

i dont remember seeing too much about alt accts, unless im high

[ornate dove]

gotchu

[delicate meteor]

Zeals himself said he as 3 other accounts

[ornate dove]

my plan is to have a bard/artist as my mains so 12 alts would work there

[summer gyro]

kanimaxiv is a f2p streamer with multiple accounts i think, might get some good answers from him

[ornate dove]

i remember that, but there wasnt much detail on having multiple accts, so unless i missed smth that doesnt tell me much unfortunately

[ornate dove]

ah ok sounds good ill check em out

[summer gyro]

now most of the late game content is mechanic heavy, so its not mindless grinding

[delicate meteor]

He or Sywo or someone talked about it, but it was like half a year ago

[ornate dove]

gotcha ill try and find that

[ornate dove]

yeah thats whats been happening with bdo as well, its nice not being full braindead grind lmao

[delicate meteor]

It wasn't a specific topic on a video, so you probably won't come across it.

[ornate dove]

i believe in the gods of rng, ill find it somewhere

[delicate meteor]

Came across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqBG4QU1u4I

[ornate dove]

gotchu i’ll watch that in a sec

i’m tryna think of other questions i had earlier and i’m blanking

[delicate meteor]

No rush, 6 days left 🙂

[ornate dove]

true true

[maiden locust]

even if you squeeze out max alts, can you maintain them? getting them all to t3 ... sounds painful

[bronze lance]

benji is great

[ornate dove]

unfortunately, im gonna have to say yes

[delicate meteor]

Well it's a matter of how many hours a day you play so

[ornate dove]

because im stupid and have nothing better to do, so yknow, 20 hours a day of grinding lost ark doesnt sound half bad compared to the same 20 hours on bdo grinding

[maiden locust]

wow how do you have so much time

[ornate dove]

disabled so cant go outside/work so i just play games 24/7

[delicate meteor]

I'm sorry to hear that

[maiden locust]

who pays for everything? sorry to hear that 2

[ornate dove]

and dont feel bad, im perfectly content with how it goes

[ornate dove]

im 20, so still with my mom :D

[delicate meteor]

I'm 36 and still with my mom 😛

[summer gyro]

not to shutdown the conversation, but this is more #lost-ark-discussions or #general-chat

[ornate dove]

this is true, so ima start askin more questions ;3

aight bois

day 1 whats my best min max lifeskill to do

[delicate meteor]

none

[ornate dove]

once i finish all the dailies n shit

[delicate meteor]

lifeskill is something to do later

[ornate dove]

ah okay

[versed dove]

what's later tho?

[delicate meteor]

here https://preview.redd.it/jn48jjdwhcf81.jpg?width=5589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9beef02c77a949aa4ef67ec3c50176c205787601

[ornate dove]

so day 1 is just gonna be get all chars to 50/able to grind the dungeon stuff?

[summer gyro]

you should prolly drain that energy bar before the day is over, doing mining/logging for stronghold

[lean river]

I thought you should do enough to upgrade your stronghold?

[ornate dove]

thats what i was thinkin

[lean river]

I don't know anything though. Totally new the game, just regurgitating what I heard on youtube guides 😛

[ornate dove]

valid ;3

[ornate dove]

tysm

[lean river]

Nice, thanks!

[ornate dove]

gotcha, anything specific for that or will i figure it out easily?

[summer gyro]

not really, there are technically some farming places to get through it fast. in #info-dump there are some guides by smart people on things they plan on doing

[ornate dove]

could i theoretically get all 4 chars to 50 and do all dailies day 1?

or does it take long to get to those points?

[summer gyro]

getting to 50 takes 8-20 hours depending on your speed. depending on your region you might not have that much time

[kindred token]

It a marathon the thing that matter is what you do in the next months or even year

[ornate dove]

see im planning for day 1 because im gonna be doing the same thing every single day till i cant anymore ;3

[summer gyro]

personally, early on i plan on not having too many alts so i can work on account stuff, since that is important as well

[ornate dove]

gotcha

[ornate dove]

what dyou mean depending on region?

[kindred token]

Eu have only 2days

[summer gyro]

since game launches at 9am pst, if you live in europe you just miss the daily timer i think

[ornate dove]

ah im US west so ill be fine

i think the play is to make the 4 bards day 1 but only play 1 so i can learn what im doin before leveling the others

[shut canyon]

how important is character creation phase? can i edit my look after

[delicate meteor]

You need a ticket for it

[summer gyro]

with a paid item, yeah

[shut canyon]

oh yikes

[maiden locust]

i wouldnt build 4 of the same character... esp not support... if you think about the team composition, you only need one support and 3 dps

[ornate dove]

im p sure i only wanna play bard/artist so idk

[kindred token]

People has alt so you are ok

[delicate meteor]

there are events that give you one for free, on ru I got two in half a year (might be a rare thing for NAEU)

[ornate dove]

how cringe is it gonna be to swap to artist from bard once shes out btw?

[kindred token]

Wdym....

[delicate meteor]

'cringe?' no such thing

[summer gyro]

depends on where you are in the content

[ornate dove]

well if all goes to plan ill probably be at the highest content at the point of artists release

or, not probably, i will be

[kindred token]

If you play from the beginning and play consistently nothing really matter too much. You will have enough of resources

[delicate meteor]

If you plan to main artist, you can preplan for it, especially if you run multiple alts

[summer gyro]

then itll be awful tho thankfully you could save resources

[ornate dove]

gotchu

yeah i wanna have an artist and a bard at the highest i can possibly get, then 4 alts for running dailies probably

[kindred token]

Plenty of f2p veteran in ru pushed their sorc to their main ilvl with no problem

[ornate dove]

so 3 artists 3 bards most likely?

[ornate dove]

[kindred token]

The only problem they had was accessory cuz new class

[ornate dove]

gotchu

[kindred token]

But artist is a support

She use awakening specialist ,/heavy armor like any other supp

Dps is harder

[obtuse wigeon]

so there is absolutely no way to change your class at all, not even with IRL money? just wondering cuz what happens if i choose a class and end up not liking it but really like my character name

[delicate meteor]

You are pretty much done

[abstract crystal]

Just....make a new name

Or suffer

[summer gyro]

or get lucky with a name change ticket. they mentioned one incase they change the naming policy

[idle zinc]

How does DE's counter work?

[worldly pollen]

how good is artillerist lvling speed and daily rushing?

[cedar wharf]

I dont think the leveling speed will really matter if you need to ask that. it's not like there are crazy differences, only a few classes are a bit faster. daily rushing i mean you just have your bifrosts setup and teleport there or if its an alt you have it parked somewhere to do the same route of dailies for reputation.

[carmine salmon]

i shifted the chess piece over, but it keeps resetting....

[sly moss]

try moving black pawn in first

[forest oak]

Is being in a guild actually an advantage? Should I find one, or can I avoid it?

[delicate meteor]

It is an advantage

You donate to guild and in return guild gives you crystals you can spend in guild shop

Indirect way to convert shillings into something usefull

[sly moss]

also you're placing it in the wrong spot

go 1 square above it

[carmine salmon]

actually, where is the line of symmetry? it doesnt make sense to me

shouldnt symmetry means mirror each other?

wth

the game just solved the puzzle for me or something

[sly moss]

LMAO

failsafe

think it prob just require the black pawn first

[delicate meteor]

When the game is just like 'ugh I'LL DO IT MYSELF'

[worthy dagger]

hi guys, im new to the game and i just got to 600 gear 🙂 ive got a whole lot of the personal upgrade stones though and im not sure what i can do with them. if i go to a hardening material exchange then i can only exchange citrine and big crystal. am i doing something wrong?

[carmine salmon]

and the boss before this, there is the black and white flickering tiles

and the game says to look out for "tagging"

what do i look out for to determine if the white or black tiles explode?

i cant seem to understand when the cue is given

[astral relic]

Is there an open world pvp in this game? Can you attack other players out on the field?

[carmine salmon]

only some areas

[worldly pollen]

okay thanks

[delicate meteor]

No clue man, I just winged it XD

[misty tree]

Are u saying ur at t2 but u have t1 mats and ur not sure what to do with them?

[worthy dagger]

exactly this, got loads of the personal ones

[misty tree]

Well if they are character bound than its useless. U throw it away
If they are not bound, than u can use them on another character

[worthy dagger]

aw damn thats a shame, thank you 🙂

[deft palm]

which class requires less keypresses when fighting please? not sure if its a good question

[gilded wedge]

slower classes like the warrior

[deft palm]

ok thank you

[faint pagoda]

Can I Help my friend doing Guardian Raids / Weekly Dungeons when im at a higher GS and have already done my runs

[gilded wedge]

artillerist is also pretty slow

[wintry cypress]

Guardian if you already did your run, you still can help

but not with the weekly dungeons

[faint pagoda]

ok ty 🙂

Is it scaled down GS wise?

[wintry cypress]

For training dummy, if you have a level 60 character, the maximum level your alt can be trained to passively is Level 58.00 or 58.99? Thanks!

[red lichen]

you're looking for low "APM" (actions per minute). Warrior classes usually fit that bill.

[deft palm]

ok thank you

[lucid grove]

What do people mean by rice farmers in this game?

[lapis gale]

People who play 50 alts and haven't showered in the past 2 years

[trim void]

No, so you will just go in and rekt it.

[delicate meteor]

NPC's in fields doing manual labor

[bronze lance]

people who play like its their job in a factory

[sly moss]

its unironically a decent money maker for people in certain area

[bronze lance]

would make me hate the game if i had to do that

[tight nexus]

So I was wondering about one thing,recently I found out that most things in the game are time gated meaning I can't really farm the crap out of them. My question is, say I have a day off where I can play like 12+ hours, is there anything that I can farm that is productive in the game or not really?

[slate sphinx]

Chaos dungeons. And buy upgrading materials

[delicate meteor]

There's a ton of things that are not time gated. Islands, side quests, etc.

[slate sphinx]

it's slow, boring as fuck though it could be more productive to level up an alter

[tight nexus]

hmmmm

[frozen storm]

what is the una token weekly limit? like how many chars per day will make me limit?

[tight nexus]

I take it completing all islands and sidequests takes a tremendous amount of time?

[bronze lance]

there's also a lot more in the game than just your daily/weekly content grind

yea you have a lot of collectibles

islands, giant hearts, mokoko, cards, engravings, rapport, bosses, life skill, gates, ghost ships, guild content, pvp arenas

[delicate meteor]

Yes, especially since some islands are limited in time of appearance and some islands take dailies to grind for numerous days

[tight nexus]

ahhh well all good then, I'll start with completing all of the stuff mentioned above before worrying about farming chaos dungeons etc. xD thanks for clarifying !

[delicate meteor]

something you should focus on https://papunika.com/skill-points/

[slate sphinx]

chaos dungeon farm is the last thing you will do. Once you have all the isles complete or timers are not aligned. And you complete all the dailies with your alts
Though there is the option

[trim void]

Below ilvl 1415 it's 70 / 70 / 95 / 95 / 145 for a total of 475 tokens a week, this can be done over the week but if you want to reach the cap sooner about 3/4 characters could reach the cap in a day

[abstract crystal]

When you name your char can you capitalize letters other than the first?

Example: AngusMcZongo

[trim void]

No, as per amazon's news update you can only have one capital letter

[abstract crystal]

@trim void

[trim void]

I know I wanted to try and nab OnlyFans

[abstract crystal]

I have a few nice one word names ill try to grab

Those go fast

[peak gust]

Hi, I have another question. Does anyone have a table for levelling guilds. How much exp is needed for each lvl ?

[violet elk]

Is there a walkthrough that lists what quests you absolutely should not skip while leveling? Like stat potions, guide quests, etc.

[spiral thistle]

You skip everything except x2 quests for skill Potions

At least if you want to get to 50 ASAP and start doing dailies.

[violet elk]

Are the skill potion quests obvious and different in some way so I won't miss them?

[robust thunder]

[spiral thistle]

No. One is from king Thirain after you've finished East Luterra main story iirc and second is from Cadri NPC in Anihic which is a chain quest in multiple zones.

Third one is hidden quest from rats in Shushire harbor post Lv50 when you actually do Shushire.

[violet elk]

Cool, thanks. Is Berserker desirable at all in raids? I was leaning towards Scrapper or Demonic, but I really enjoyed Berserker a lot last beta. I just don't want to pick something that isn't going to get groups.

[spiral thistle]

All dps are interchangeable. No class is unwanted.

[violet elk]

Does the Berserker do anything really well in raids compared to other classes?

[spiral thistle]

They have above average stagger/impairment and destruction

Beside that not really. Not a lot of dps offer unique things for a group. They all have something.

[delicate meteor]

DPS job is to DPS without dying, I believe all classes bring some sort of utility

[violet elk]

I keep seeing things about upgrading. Is there a down side to upgrading gear I get early after hitting cap?

[bronze lance]

Except paladin

[delicate meteor]

Paladin is not DPS

[bronze lance]

:)

Ik

[delicate meteor]

Don't go out of your way to be smart just to confuse people.

[bronze lance]

Just making a joke about dps pala

[delicate meteor]

The only downside if you over upgrade. So like you have +X and you can change it to a higher base item level item, but instead you try to +X+1, that's not a good thing to do, or smart

[violet elk]

Can't you transfer the upgrade to the new higher base item?

[delicate meteor]

Yea, but the higher you go in upgrades the higher failure chance

It's better to use the materials on alts or sell them

[violet elk]

So if I was to get a 302 weapon I shouldn't upgrade it to +10 or anything?

I just figured I could transfer that forever through the tier.

[spiral thistle]

I think you are misunderstanding the difference between upgrading in tiers as upgrading in T1 and T2 isn't the same as in T3. +15 is soft cap in early tiers and it's completely useless going past that while going beyond +15 is a must for T3

[sage crow]

Upgrading from T1 to T2 requires a +15 upgrade and then it resets it back to +0 right?

[spiral thistle]

There isn't any difference is base gear for for T1 and T2.

[violet elk]

Ya I'm kinda confused about the recycling and upgrade dynamic. I just don't want to waste money, but also don't want to slow myself down lol.

Trying to make sure I don't do something crazy

[delicate meteor]

You only upgrade to meet the criteria to receive next item in chain. Like Fogelstrom said, until you have the final item in the patch (t3 for us) you don't go over certain number of upgrades

[violet elk]

So going to +15 on a 302 item is ok?

[delicate meteor]

Think of it as 'only upgrade the bare minimum and go to next item'

[bronze lance]

https://papunika.com/growth-guide/

[delicate meteor]

if +14 is enough to get next item, it's not ok

[spiral thistle]

It's a must otherwise you'll never get to T2

[violet elk]

What do I do with my old gear after I move to a new tier?

[delicate meteor]

You transfer it's power into new one, afaik

[violet elk]

I thought recycling was limited to the same tier?

[delicate meteor]

because, 302 +15 (I don't know the real numbers, using example) is 420, but new base is 375, then you sacrifice the 302+15 and the 375 becomes 420, but it's still +0, so you again go +15 and repeat

[stoic aspen]

T1 chaos dungeon gear +1 to +15, then recycle your +15 T1 gear to +1 T2 chaos dungeon gear. Then recycle your +15 T2 gear to +3 T3 chaos dungeon gear

that's it

T1 chaos dungeon gear = 302 gear

[violet elk]

Nice, thanks.

If I don't use the old tier* items to recycle do they have no real purpose?

[delicate meteor]

You will use, otherwise your ilvl drops

and higher tier items need higher tier upgrade material

[spiral thistle]

No it won't because he specifically ask between tiers

[stoic aspen]

You can directly upgrade your T2 chaos dungeon gear from +0 instead of recycling your T1 gear to T2 gear

[spiral thistle]

It's just free levels when you enter new tier because old tier gear is useless

[stoic aspen]

it's a small difference, most people just recycle

[violet elk]

So I can't break previous tier stuff down for materials, or move it to alts, etc?

[stoic aspen]

You can't move it to alts. Just recycle

[spiral thistle]

Recycling in same tier is just because you craft set items and ofc don't want to upgrade your newly i302 or w/e piece just transfer levels

[violet elk]

Sounds good. I like the sound of the gear progression system in this game. Seems pretty player friendly and flexible.

Is it really expensive to instantly go from T1 to T2 through upgrading? I see guides saying it's a thing, but is that an actual affordable and efficient method?

[delicate meteor]

Until you fail 100 times in a row

[delicate meteor]

People have to be selling materials in order for you to buy them

[spiral thistle]

It's not expensive in any way. Costs have been cut substantially from what it used to be.

[violet elk]

I can't personally gather enough stuff to get it all to 15?

[spiral thistle]

You easily can

[delicate meteor]

You talk about affordable, I assumed you wanted to buy from AH

[violet elk]

As quickly as just grinding gear?

[delicate meteor]

You can't grind gear, in a normal sense.

[spiral thistle]

You can't grind gear. Everything is just timed content.

[delicate meteor]

You need to grind materials.

[violet elk]

So I could realistically not hit T2 before weekly reset with bad luck?

[delicate meteor]

Boss A drops X ilvl gear, to fight boss B you need higher ilvl, to achieve higher ilvl you need to upgrade gear from boss A, eventually down the line, boss Z drops new gear and you repeat the cycle

[violet elk]

I suppose I should rephrase it and say would I be better off selling materials and doing content for gear, or buying?

[spiral thistle]

No because everything is locked behind daily and weekly content. You can just endlessly farm anything in LA.

[delicate meteor]

You use all materials on yourself, you only sell once you no longer have a use for them

[spiral thistle]

No one is going to buy or sell materials at start since everyone needs their materials.

[violet elk]

What's a realistic goal for week one gear score without buying gold or living on the game for a week?

[delicate meteor]

There is no such thing

It's all luck, really.

[violet elk]

Is there a cap on how much stuff can sell for? I'd imagine selling stuff first week would rake in cash.

[delicate meteor]

You can only sell anything for as high as someone can pay for it

[spiral thistle]

1 week for me isn't same as 1 week for you. I'll probably be in T2 but you most likely will not.

[violet elk]

What dictates that exactly?

[delicate meteor]

You are new so you don't know how to do it efficiently

[static delta]

knowledge

[spiral thistle]

My knowledge and understanding. I already know everything and where to get everything to progress faster

[bronze lance]

Fog is one of our guide masters

#info-dump

[violet elk]

I see. I played for a few weeks in Korea at launch but most of this stuff wasn't in the game.

[spiral thistle]

Too bad my guide is pretty much useless now

[bronze lance]

Ehhh

Still helpful

[delicate meteor]

I was on RU, didn't use a boost, leveled to 50, unlocked chaos dungeons and guardian raids. To upgrade my gear +1, single item, I needed to do the daily things for 3 days (that was way back when)

[spiral thistle]

Yeah it still has relevant info. I will most likely update it once more before launch too as I've done more planning now.

[bronze lance]

Yea that was season 1

[violet elk]

Ya I just looked at the bosses and I did up to Nacrasena before I got paranoid about my account being recalled and stopped.

[bronze lance]

A lot has changed

[violet elk]

Ya these systems feel like a whole new game to me lol.

[bronze lance]

I remember I did hellgaia before quitting

[spiral thistle]

System wise it's pretty much a new game since S1

[violet elk]

Way better though. Upgrading was a disaster in S1, I hated the RNG on chaos dungeons and other stuff. Spent forever hard stuck due to bad luck.

Had like no source of progressing

This seems infinitely better

[spiral thistle]

Grinding Shushire dungeons. Good times

[violet elk]

Pretty much my life ya

What is with the raids that have health bars? They didn't have any of those before.

Or are those not raids?

[spiral thistle]

It's only Guardians that don't have health bars and that is how it has always been. Everything else always has HP bars

[bronze lance]

Legion raids?

[violet elk]

Is that jester guy a legion raid?

[spiral thistle]

Yes

[violet elk]

Looks absolutely bonkers

[bronze lance]

Kukul saton

Yea

[violet elk]

Do you get really good stuff from those compared to Guardian? They seem light years more difficult.

[bronze lance]

Oh yea

Guardian raids are like your chaos dungeons

Use them to get daily resources

[violet elk]

So the "true" end game is Legion stuff?

[spiral thistle]

Yep

[violet elk]

Is there a big power difference between people with Legion loot and not?

And what gear score do I need to do my first Legion?

[misty tree]

legion loot? as in legion gear?

[violet elk]

Ya, the stuff off the jester and the new crazy chick.

[spiral thistle]

Sets created with Legion drops are good stuff Ye. Definitely a ton better than no set dudes

[misty tree]

obviously, its a huge damage upgrade

[violet elk]

Are there a lot of legion raids?

[spiral thistle]

Currently 4. Valtan is first at i1415

[violet elk]

Damn so it's super late in the gear progression.

[hollow anchor]

I have a quick question to ask about servers? Am i gonna have different ping on every server i go, or is it unknown yet?

[spiral thistle]

We don't have any Legion on release anyway. It will be added post launch with updates.

[bronze lance]

Not every server. Ping will differ by region

[spiral thistle]

All servers for each region are at same location.

[violet elk]

If I play on a West realm and I join a raid group, what determines my ping?

[hollow anchor]

Oh okay.

[bronze lance]

As fog said, all the servers are at the west data center

[spiral thistle]

Your distance to Oregon

[violet elk]

So if I play on East I still get the same connection no matter what.

[spiral thistle]

No matter what server you play on yes

[bronze lance]

If you play different servers in east

[violet elk]

That's just fantastic.

[bronze lance]

But your ping between east and west are different

[hollow anchor]

So im from Europe and if i go to any server in that region, i will have the same ping?

[bronze lance]

For EU region servers yes

Frankfurt

[hollow anchor]

Ok, thanks.

[violet elk]

West is Oregon and East is where?

[bronze lance]

Virginia

[spiral thistle]

Ohio?

[bronze lance]

You can test your ping

!cloudping

[midnight flax]

Test your ping to Amazon servers:
https://www.cloudping.info/

[violet elk]

40 vs 80, not a big deal at all.

[half geyser]

🙂

[violet elk]

K so if I create a character on the West server and join a group of three people all from East, I'll still get 40?

[spiral thistle]

You can't play with people from other regions

[bronze lance]

You can't join cross region

[violet elk]

I thought there was crossrealm raids?

[bronze lance]

Cross server

[spiral thistle]

Cross server, not cross region

[violet elk]

Ok so I guess there goes the US West dream

[bronze lance]

!region

[midnight flax]

Cross Server (Region wide)
Raids, Dungeons, Cube, Plat Fields, Auction house, Character name, Boss Rush, PVP arenas

Server Specific
Guilds, Friends (list), Islands, Open world, Strongholds (cross in KR), GvG, Life skills (professions), Arena Premades (queue as party, this is cross server in KR)

Nothing is Cross Region

[violet elk]

I thought region referred to country

Wow and a ton of stuff I can't do across server either. That narrows things way down. Almost everyone I know is East.

[bronze lance]

Regions are Na east, Na west, EU, South America

[violet elk]

Are there titles/rewards for being server first for anything?

[cedar wharf]

@bronze lance can u edit and say "unraked Arena Premades"

[violet elk]

I thought there was no ranked premade?

[bronze lance]

Premades aren't ranked tho

I can edit tomorrow

I'm on phone

[cedar wharf]

yea but it leaves the option open and new player dont know that or will keep asking

[bronze lance]

In bed

Lol

[cedar wharf]

[cedar wharf]

there are no ranked premades 🙂 there are just unranked premades but i've answeres this question around 40 times in the last 2 month 😄

[violet elk]

Are there any major guilds going to specific servers that are noteworthy? I remember people wanting to be on T-Party server when the game first came out, for example.

[cedar wharf]

i think its fair to say that most ppl are still waiting for AGS or are just going to Kadan

[worldly pollen]

is the inventory space in this game behind a paywall or you can expand with ingame currency?

[spiral thistle]

Lots of high profile guilds keep server selection hidden

[violet elk]

What's AGS?

[carmine salmon]

real world cash to unlock inventory

[spiral thistle]

In-game can unlock everything

[violet elk]

Why's that?

[spiral thistle]

They probably don't want their high profile making a server too popular to cause queue times.

Is my main assumption anyway

[violet elk]

Makes sense. Queues were just absolutely INSANE in Korea.

Think I had a 4 1/2 hour queue on day 2.

Alright here's one question that has been bothering me for a while. What in the hell is GvG for in this game?

I didn't even touch PvP cause of the lag in Korea so I haven't thought about it at all.

[cedar wharf]

you get some rewards after a GvG based on your ranking, the usual stuff and you can control when certain islands are active if you hold them

[violet elk]

Is there a big incentive for being involved with a dominant GvG guild?

[cedar wharf]

also epeen. there is also GvE so a Boss Raid timed so you dont need to pvp

[cedar wharf]

i have to say its pretty niche imho but some people are into it.

[violet elk]

Like in BDO if you wanted to be top tier, had to be in a stomper PvP guild.

I like PvP but I don't want that ever again.

[cedar wharf]

nah its not like that you dont get taxes or access to special stuff in that magnitude.
just some upgrade materials and stuff like that and you can time some random pvp island spawn

[violet elk]

Is there seasonal ranks for PvP or anything? Something to chase for big incentives?

[worldly pollen]

thanks

[cedar wharf]

like i said its pretty niche and it wouldnt be niche if it was super important

[cedar wharf]

there are season in ranked arena

[violet elk]

So this is absolutely a PvE first type of game still?

As in the majority of people focus on that aspect.

[cedar wharf]

No GvG is just niche since it’s not normalized like arena

[violet elk]

Do you get anything special for being like top 100 rank in the end of the PvP season?

[long prawn]

You get a avatar for your rank

I think plat+ you get the whole set

[violet elk]

Also thanks for answering all these questions. You're all very helpful.

[cedar wharf]

Yea there is a ranking and everything and you get PvP exp and stuff based on your rank plus an grandmaster avatar for the top

[long prawn]

And auras for gm and masters

[violet elk]

Are they permanent?

[long prawn]

No

You also get pvp tokens based on your pvp level which can be exchanged for goodies

Nothing to do with rank tho

[violet elk]

Aura looks pretty bad ass. Everyone can see it?

[cedar wharf]

I mean it’s xserver so people usually just know the names of their top PvP rankers and the best players of each class the leaderboards especially if the class is off meta

[long prawn]

Yes

[violet elk]

Alright, that's a nice flex.

[long prawn]

And your title too

[violet elk]

Since the ranked PvP is solo are the rankings based on class, overall, mix, etc?

[long prawn]

Ranked pvp is 3v3

Not solo, it is team deathmatch

[violet elk]

I meant solo queue.

[dawn scroll]

Could someone explain if class engravings are the same as inscriptions? As in the ones that define your class? (i.e. Esoteric Skill and First Intention for WD/BM)

[long prawn]

Oh I see, the ladder is overall

[cedar wharf]

Ranked PvP is 3v3 solo queue with elo and it shows the classes you play

[violet elk]

So you could have 1 class make up like 70% of the top 100 in theory?

[long prawn]

Yes

[violet elk]

Ok that seems rough lol

[long prawn]

But thats if it is unbalanced, usually you see the meta stuff high up more tho

[violet elk]

If you're literally the #1 ELO for a specific class there's nothing to distinguish that?

[cedar wharf]

That’s the real flex everyone knowing your name for being in the top 100 with an off meta class. Not some avatar

[long prawn]

Nope

Unless someone goes out of their way to look at the ladder

[violet elk]

Any of you play Battlerite (this is not off-topic I promise)?

[long prawn]

I did

[violet elk]

Ok, how does the PvP compare to that in terms of difficulty?

Or is it not a good comparison.

[long prawn]

Much more complicated, and different as well

[violet elk]

Would you say the PvP is closer to a MOBA than Battlerite?

It just feels more in line with Battlerite to me.

Combat wise

[cedar wharf]

No closer to an MMO

[long prawn]

Hmm I wouldnt say it is a moba combat, I mostly play league and it is very different

[cedar wharf]

With all the cc rules, DR, etc

[long prawn]

The cc is the key difference

[violet elk]

Ya CC times seem crazy long vs. Battlerite

[long prawn]

It feels like isometric smash

[violet elk]

Awwww ok

Now that makes sense

[umbral mauve]

imo pvp feels a lot more like wow than battlerite but it's still a mix between the two.

[violet elk]

What one do you think is more difficult? Of the three.

[long prawn]

Well the cc times arent long since there are immunities and stuff but the chains are kinda crazy

[cedar wharf]

@violet elk https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGBz9gbh1JyQQsSOpCJNreV63dQLqvCWu

[worldly pollen]

is there a guide for stronghold/estate? like what to do first when we get it

[cedar wharf]

Follow the quest

[violet elk]

TY gonna check those out. The people I'm bringing with me are new to Lost Ark but are all Gladiators from WoW. So I want to be able to explain stuff.

[umbral mauve]

Battlerite was definetly harder and more sweaty compared to wow and lost ark.

[violet elk]

Did you hit GC in Battlerite?

I'm trying to gauge the level of investment I'm going to have to put in for that Aura lol.

[long prawn]

The entry barrier for pvp is big so expect a hard learning curve

Most of the time you wont be in control of your char

[violet elk]

Is Berserker a decent choice for PvP? I was sold on it but now I feel like I need to pick something that excels in raids and PvP equally.

[cedar wharf]

You will complete with ppl who have 3y exp so every minute you have for pvp is beneficial

[violet elk]

Ya that's a fantastic point. Didn't even consider that.

[long prawn]

You can pvp at level 26, so you dont need to select one class

[violet elk]

Are the rewards account bound or character?

[cedar wharf]

I would say not top tier but our meta can be different. You just make low lvl pvp alts

[long prawn]

Server wide

Making a pvp alt is like a few hours of work, nothing crazy

[violet elk]

All the classes I really want to PvP with aren't coming at launch 😦

[long prawn]

Just play what you like for pve

[violet elk]

Lancemaster and Destroyer are what I want to PvP as, but I absolutely want Scrapper/Zerk/Demo for PvE.

Of the latter three that actually are coming out, do any of those standout in PvP?

[cedar wharf]

No

[violet elk]

Welp that makes things simpler I suppose

[cedar wharf]

Most Infighter will tell you they are not in a good spot in 3v3

[umbral mauve]

I did

[long prawn]

If you want to play a warrior for pvp then holy knight is top tier

[violet elk]

Cool then you have a good perspective. Have you played high tier PvP in Lost Ark too?

[violet elk]

I demo'd that last night and it felt so nice. Skills look super clean too. What makes it good in PvP? Shields and reach for melee?

[long prawn]

In a 3v3 team deathmatch his support is hella nice

[cedar wharf]

Support with high damage reduction for group and still good dps potential

[violet elk]

I imagine good supports have a ball in PvP

[long prawn]

Bard and hk really good for 3v3 td

[cedar wharf]

Also Paladin DR has a great radius

[violet elk]

@cedar wharf I see you're an infighter main and that's what I played exclusively in Korea. Would you say melee struggle compared to ranged at all in higher difficulties?

[dapper nebula]

What level for Guild Creation?

[prime steeple]

GvG is also from 26?

[cedar wharf]

There is a poke meta going on so classes that can poke u down before going in are dominating atm. Also Infighter is just less protected and can’t brawl like Blade or Lance

[cedar wharf]

No GvG not normalized

[violet elk]

How about in raids?

[cedar wharf]

Right at the start once you have the silver

[abstract crystal]

So its p2w rip

[dapper nebula]

Noice! Thanks. 😄

[long prawn]

For pve all classes are good

[cedar wharf]

What about raids?

[dapper nebula]

Dat platinum doh. 🙂 So I'll be golden

[long prawn]

Some better than others but all viable

[violet elk]

Do range outperform melee in raids, or are preferred?

[prime steeple]

So one need to max level and invest in char to be competitive in gvg. What I personally like

[violet elk]

I didn't play far enough into the game to see people really forming a bias at launch.

[cedar wharf]

Depends on your group not on a class as long as you have two supports it’s whatever

[long prawn]

Supports are the super preferred the rest all good dps

[violet elk]

I guess I should clarify and say pugs and not premades.

In other raid games melee are literal pariahs.

[kindred token]

In this game melee has harder time than ranged or semi range

[cedar wharf]

Pugs care how good your character is setup/build like the gear, engravings, that you fit what they already have

[autumn horizon]

Are the side quests worth doing?

[kindred token]

But if you are good then just play the game

[violet elk]

So gear/build > class, in general?

[pure yacht]

6 days

[long prawn]

You will have to do most of them at one point

[cedar wharf]

I mean if you play to get a PvP aura you have to be actually good at the game

So some random ass raid won’t stop you

[autumn horizon]

So rushing at level 50 isn't that important?

[kindred token]

Different objective.... People usually want to do it backtrack cuz rushing for daily etc

[long prawn]

I personally am going to rush to 50 and then use knowledge transfer to get another level 50 char and then play on my third alt and do all the side quests with it

But thats my plan, if you have time go for it

[violet elk]

What's knowledge transfer?

[autumn horizon]

Do you only need to do the side quests with one character or with all of them?

[cedar wharf]

#announcements

[long prawn]

You do the quests for affinity stats, skill potions, collectibles, and etc. And all of those are server wide

[cedar wharf]

So many new players are putting the cart before the horse, talking about grandmaster rankings, best class, leveling routes etc. but worry about some classes in pugs and don’t read the publicly available information on stuff.

You guys have your priorities kinda fucked up

Just play the game and have a good time

Stuff will make sense eventually

[violet elk]

I think a lot of people are like me and want to get off on the right foot, or go in with some degree of tempered expectations.

[long prawn]

True, I am going to play blade cause it is fun

[violet elk]

No one wants to waste time or be inefficient. I'm playing something I like so far and not stuff that's high on a tier list.

[half geyser]

how is wardancer ?

[cedar wharf]

You need to understand if you don’t know this stuff and need all these theoretical information spoon fed to ya, you just need to play the game and learn it

[violet elk]

If for example every ranged was 3x better than melee, I'd still not play ranged.

[pure night]

i ll have to disagree with u there

idc about being slower/less efficient if it means more fun for me

[violet elk]

I mean some people might be masochists and want to waste 100 hours of time out the gate. To each their own.

[long prawn]

Viable for pve

[violet elk]

I've dumped so much time into a certain class, activity, etc. and regretted it because I had no idea what I was getting into beforehand.

[cedar wharf]

If this was the case it would be in the publicly available information for everyone to read. All this theoretical knowledge is not going to help you as much as you think.

[violet elk]

Going in "blind" is real fun for certain games and things. Wasting a weeks worth of work on the wrong thing due to materials and whatnot is just...not a good time for me.

[pure night]

ye that how you see it and thats fine but youre not everyone

[violet elk]

I just like discussing games I'm interested in is all. I'm not looking to get some fast track to supremacy or anything lol.

[violet elk]

Never said I was :). I like some doing things with 0 prior information but MMO's aren't one of them.

[pure night]

why not? as long as its fun

[violet elk]

Have a finite amount of time and I also don't like wasting someone else's time. I won't join a raid blind unless the group specifies it is a blind run, for example.

Disrespectful to other people coming unprepared. Not everyone has infinite amount of time to play the game.

[pure night]

ne neither which is why i want to have as much fun as possible which min maxing generally is not

[violet elk]

Like I said it depends on what I'm doing lol. I don't pick up a new Final Fantasy and print out a walkthrough so I can spoil myself. Same for a soulslike. MMO's are just a different thing entirely in my opinion.

However, if I don't min/max in a MMO I feel instant remorse and regret. It's no different than people that hoard certain materials in games and whatnot. I want to do the right thing when it's possible.

I don't think preparing for a launch of a game I've been waiting to play in my region for years is having wrong priorities.

[cedar wharf]

If you wanted to min max so badly why didn’t you just play RU for 6 month and learn the game

[pure night]

i cheese whenever possible even if its the objectivly worse thing to do

[violet elk]

Was in the hospital dying.

This is the first MMO I've been able to play in 18 months.

[cedar wharf]

Thats fucked up to hear

[violet elk]

I mean I'm alive so it clearly worked out 🙂

[cedar wharf]

Anyway you can log in now

[violet elk]

Didn't die before it released in NA so mission accomplished lol

[cedar wharf]

Takes you 2-3 hours to get a toon to Lutheran to queue PvP

[violet elk]

Yup I got the Russian client last night. Going to hit cap on zerker and mess around before launch.

[pure night]

i guess our approach to games is just different in the end as long as u have fun

[long prawn]

And then you can get juggled in the air for a few hours

[violet elk]

Yup, everyone has different tastes. As long as you're having a good time I never judge.

[violet elk]

Does scrapper dodges work as well in PvP as they do PvE?

Or is it different

[cedar wharf]

If you get multiple classes to 30 you can test them in the training room with engravings an all

[cedar wharf]

Watch the videos I linked they explain cc and dodge

[violet elk]

Ya I am gonna do Paladin most likely to 30 since I'm leaning heavy towards it as my first alt.

K. I got em bookmarked.

[long prawn]

I never played scrapper so idk what these dodges are

[violet elk]

Are you going to do the collectibles when you do the side quests?

[long prawn]

Yeah I plan on having fun with my third alt

I am just going to explore islands

Maybe some pvp in the middle

[violet elk]

Are the hard legion raids on par with like Mythic WoW and FF Ultimates?

[long prawn]

Have you played realm of the mad god?

[violet elk]

Nope 😦

[subtle compass]

is there like a serverlist that shows what server will be what language

[long prawn]

Hmm well mythics raids in wow have the raid wipe mechanics and stuff but the legion raids since it is 8 people seems a lot more organized but with crazier mechanics

[violet elk]

The legion stuff looks insane.

[delicate meteor]

Nothing so far.

[subtle compass]

okay ty

[long prawn]

They do look crazy

[delicate meteor]

Unofficial https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/sgxuab/unofficial_server_guide_updated_31_jan_2022/

[chrome brook]

For engravings with +dmg% like grudge at least multiplicative. Some nice guy tested that for some engravings yesterday in gunlancer channel.
Idk about different AP scaling scources, but should be easy to test since you can see the AP numbers .
And crit chance/dmg from different sources is ofc additive

But no guarantees

And i couldnt find any scources too.

[wintry cypress]

Tested a lot of variations regarding this topic. My finding is that 95% of the time it is multiplicative.

[livid thistle]

Guys sorry to bother but i have a question. Do we have any official info on wether we are going to have gvg at Eu/Na launch?

[delicate meteor]

Yes, we will not have it.

[livid thistle]

can you please share source if available?

[delicate meteor]

https://lostarkive.com/news/gvg-will-not-be-available-for-launch/

[long prawn]

https://forums.playlostark.com/t/is-gvg-pay-to-win-im-concerned/38462/2

[livid thistle]

cheers thanks

[abstract forum]

Can i funnel mats to a character on a different Server? E.g. asta to kadan?

[long prawn]

If you use the auction house yes

You cant mail it tho

[abstract forum]

So better to make alts on the same Server

[long prawn]

Making alts on a different server just negates the benefits of alts in general

[serene kernel]

What dps can be good for people and pvp to main in your pov

Pve and pvp

[long prawn]

Dont worry about pvp, it takes like 2 hours to get a pvp alt

[serene kernel]

Oh

[long prawn]

If your main for pve is bad in pvp just make a pvp alt

[serene kernel]

Then end game pve what can be considered important dps to main

[long prawn]

Everything is viable and good

[serene kernel]

I got an eye on two class, gunslinger and shadow hunter

[long prawn]

Dps not bard and hk

But aside from that all classes can dps fine

[random hamlet]

There is no meta, in the end it depends on the group synergy

[long prawn]

And they have balance patches so what might be above the edge atm might end up average later

[serene kernel]

Is there any link leaderboard for Lost ark Korean or Russian

[long prawn]

But essentially all classes are viable for end game pve

Pvp leaderboard?

[limpid sonnet]

or 8 if u use knowledge boost

[half spindle]

hi, im very new, is the combat in lost ark similar to league of legends?

[long prawn]

I got D1 in league so I have a lot of experience and the short answer is no

[delicate meteor]

Depends on what you played in lol

[elfin surge]

There is still no full info on monetisation yet is there?

[long prawn]

Imagine everyone is playing riven

[elfin surge]

Or have I missed it

[half spindle]

Ah I see, i got diamond. But I asked because on most the videos I watched people use QWER for their spells it seems like

[long prawn]

You can change it whenever you want for free

[delicate meteor]

you are pretty much free to change skills however you want

there are limitations like in raids, though

[limpid sonnet]

@half spindle if u want to get a short preview it'd probs be best to just search up a raid such as abrelshud phase 4 for example

[long prawn]

The animations for skills a longer and there is hella cc, it is similar to how riven, yone, yasuo play

Chain cc and animation combos

[half spindle]

ah oki

[delicate meteor]

The control scheme is the same as league, in a sense. You use mouse for movement and you use skills on QWER and ASDF, BUT the camera can not be moved.

[subtle steeple]

Ability Stones are available at lvl 50 ?

[delicate meteor]

Yes

[half spindle]

I see, thank you

[long prawn]

Engravings are based off your jewelery as well as your own engraving points

So yes some of it is

[half spindle]

also, the abilities shoot the direction your mouse is pointed right?

[long prawn]

Yes

[delicate meteor]

There are also abilities you select an area to attack, with.

[long prawn]

There arent any permanent changes that you can make to your character and regret later

Unless you dismantle your gear or do something troll

[delicate meteor]

Subclass is permanent

[subtle steeple]

how many engraving can we take to 15 at first ?

[long prawn]

Yep

You get to test it out and then it asks if you are sure

After that gg

[half spindle]

when you get the option to test it out before you choose. You get to have the test will all the abilities?

[delicate meteor]

Only select few

[long prawn]

Only 8

You cant test out the awakening abilities

[delicate meteor]

Don't use that small test to judge if the class is right for you.

[long prawn]

You have 1 char, so you can do 1 set of dailies. If you have 4 chars you can do 4 sets of dailies and get 4 times the mats and progress faster

[delicate meteor]

This question pops up daily https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLgmcoNfcfA

[half spindle]

how do you guys know all of this when the game is not even playable haha

[delicate meteor]

it is playabled since 2018 I think

[idle zinc]

other servers are available

[long prawn]

You dont need like 6 alts tho, but as stated in that video you cant progess in a good pace with only 1

[idle zinc]

like im playing on RU rn

[delicate meteor]

Yea, learning rotation on RU myself as well

[half spindle]

can i play on RU even tho im in eu?

[delicate meteor]

T1 is easier to think in a form of 'expansions', awakening is just an extra skill with HUGE animations

[delicate meteor]

Yes, with VPN

[long prawn]

Awakening skills are like your ultimate abilities

[delicate meteor]

Correct

[long prawn]

Long cooldown big dmg

[half spindle]

ah oki, and the game is gonna be in english?

[delicate meteor]

Every class has 2.

[delicate meteor]

In RU? No, you need fan made translator

[long prawn]

You can swap awakening abilities tho

Blade has a dash one and a flurry of swords for example

[half spindle]

I see thanks, are you also from EU?

[delicate meteor]

Yes I am.

You probably missed it.

[hard wing]

can i share avatars from wardancer to future lancer since they’re both female martial artists?

[delicate meteor]

Depends if the avatar is class specific or not

[long prawn]

Depensa

Some are character bound

[half spindle]

What server are you going to play on? I have very difficult time selecting a correct server since I dont want to play on dead one or on one where people speak different language.

[hard wing]

ooh so some avatars are able to

[long prawn]

Yes

[delicate meteor]

I plan to play on low pop server, you do you https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/sgxuab/unofficial_server_guide_updated_31_jan_2022/

All instances are cross server, so server pop doesn't really matter THAT much

It's a good indicator, but things can change last minute.

[halcyon snow]

i would like to choose a server where i know my language community will kinda gather but can you trust that post?

[hard wing]

my friends wanna play on azena

[half spindle]

oh i didnt know that. Thank you!

[delicate meteor]

You need to find your community and ask them

[long prawn]

F

[delicate meteor]

Juts a reminder to keep discussion in #lost-ark-discussions this is more for questions and answers

[spiral thistle]

It's a community effort and all we have. You either use that or pick at random at this point. Do note that Kadan is also heavy och English and so is Zinnervale

[halcyon snow]

i see. thank you very much everyone for clearing my doubts.

[normal estuary]

There is a card set that increases dark resistance and holy damage. How do I see what mobs do dark damage in the first place? Also what is holy damage, will that effect all my skills? Are certain mobs weak to holy damage?

[long prawn]

Some skills do different types of dmg, tripods can change it. You can see it on your skill tooltip the type of dmg it does

As for mobs, idk probably would have to wiki that

[delicate meteor]

When you select a guardian, on top left it will say what damage it does

[spiral thistle]

It's not something that really matters at all in the game anymore anyway.

[normal estuary]

so the holy damage increase in that card set is completely useless unless I have some skill that specifically does holy damage

[delicate meteor]

Yea, just some leftovers from obsolete systems

[normal estuary]

oh ok

[long prawn]

Yeah basically

[spiral thistle]

There used to be resistance runes and elemental weapons in S1

[half spindle]

I see many people using term TIER 1,2,3 progression. What are these tiers pls?

[delicate meteor]

Think of them like expansions

[long prawn]

Tier 1 and 2 are small compared to tier 3

T3 is like a fat dlc

[half spindle]

So when the game launches we will only be at tier 1 and then we will get updates every 6months or so?

[long prawn]

We will have up to t3

But not all of t3

[maiden locust]

Does anybody have pics of life skill icons and quest icons

Or knows where I could find them

[spiral thistle]

T3 has pretty much tiers within itself. Low mid high/late

[spiral thistle]

Papunika and Lostarkcodex

[maiden locust]

Tyy

[half spindle]

And as the game goes on they will be adding more tiers?

[delicate meteor]

https://papunika.com/beginner-guide/#quest-icons

[half spindle]

for now tier3 is the highest?

[maiden locust]

Yes

[long prawn]

Yes

[half spindle]

okiii

[slim plover]

that set converts all your dmg to holy, and then later awakenings increases the holy damage you do

certain mobs are weak to holy damage, you do 10% more dmg to them with it

for example, shadow yoho, belganus, biakiss p2 and 3, abrel p4

[normal estuary]

Nice! And is there a wiki that shows which mobs are weak to what? Or pehaps some way to see in game?

[slim plover]

im not sure about a wiki but

[half spindle]

How many tiers are live on korean servers

[slim plover]

for guardians, on the top left it says what element theyre weak to

[slim plover]

3

[normal estuary]

Awesome thanks!

[frozen storm]

how long would it take to farm 600g on a fresh lvl 50 without using cash conversion or the auction house to use knowledge transfer asap?

[slim plover]

a day

[maiden locust]

Not long

2-3 max depending on how much u play

[frozen storm]

2-3 days?

[maiden locust]

It can be done in 1

Idk ur playtime per day

[delicate meteor]

You can get lucky with gold room in chaos dungeon

[frozen storm]

my ideal scenario would be 5h of grind so I can leave them training before going to bed on wednesday 9-10am CET

if it can't be done I'll give up on the idea

[delicate meteor]

I thought you had to unlock the NPC first at stronghold

[maiden locust]

U need to be 50 and have stronghold ya

[long prawn]

5h of grinding leveling + gold?

[maiden locust]

With 5 hours u wint pass level 3p

[frozen storm]

no 5h grinding after reaching lvl 50

[slim plover]

thats np

[maiden locust]

Ohh ye u should be fine

[frozen storm]

and what are the gold sources I'd be using?

[slim plover]

1 time quests

[frozen storm]

purple chains?

[slim plover]

guide quests, estate tutorial

yes

i cant tell you specifics, but youll manage to get 600 without problem

[frozen storm]

yes please

[slim plover]

no i mean

[frozen storm]

oh nvm haha

[long prawn]

https://papunika.com/gold-sources/

[slim plover]

i dont have all the sources at hand

[long prawn]

I got you

[frozen storm]

ok yeah misread

[slim plover]

but as a fresh 50 you have tons of random small sources that add uo

in the beta i was running around with 2k gold not «chasing» it

[delicate meteor]

that list is misleading, pretty much just 'sell things on auction house' you need someone to buy those

[slim plover]

i can tell you though that a t1 gold adventure island is 300g

[delicate meteor]

on RU all I did after 50 is chaos and guardian raids, sitting at 1k gold