#lost-ark-help

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balmy plank
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Only 1 for all of NA

bold geyser
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guide i sent you might take some time to get through, no need to rush, but if you work out your ark passive and skills that'll go a long way towards getting you sorted

lucid axle
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is there a easy way to check on bible for when brawl happens?

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other then 10s dps window

bold geyser
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afraid thats likely a question for the church discord

brisk socket
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Does ark passive are the karma thing? I need some 20 items to unlock them

balmy plank
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There is Ark Passive and then there is Karma used to improve your Ark Passive a bit

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You need Karma Battles from brel

bold geyser
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(later brel, much later)

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i think you may already have basic ark passive unlocked, though maybe not

brisk socket
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There was a little square above skillbar that said something about passives but when i clicked it it took to the character panel of passives and everything was locked cuz no 20x item, btw not at pc atm so all is from vague memory

balmy plank
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It pops up when you have point available to assign somewhere in the 3 trees

bold geyser
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yeah the 20x potions are karma, but the main skill tree on that page may still be interactable

tender flicker
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To clarify, we mean t4 Brel not t3 Brel

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ilvl 1670

bold geyser
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(she's back with a brand new rap)

cunning haven
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Do serca gear start at +0?

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So my ilvl would roll back to 1675 from 1730..?

lucid axle
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when you transfer you go to +11

cunning haven
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Ohhhhhh okay

lucid axle
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yeah when you craft its base but transfering ur old gear gets it to +11

cunning haven
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Ahh that makes sense thank you!

grizzled smelt
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Hi, i don't know if i can ask about this here but is there a safe way to send gems across servers ? A friend of mine is leaving and want to give gems to another friend.

cyan kiln
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Nope, gotta sell and send gold.

amber grove
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there was a tracker for raids that calculates how much gold your roster generates anyone knows what is it called?

rich verge
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You could also just maths it out from the other one that shows how much gold every raid gives

amber grove
sacred zinc
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gettin these shadow coins from raids, but dont see anything to use them on

sacred zinc
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i saw that, and as far as i can tell i was getting shadow coins, not superior shadow coins

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from Kurzan Front raid

sacred zinc
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ah, i c now, soo many places to look in this game

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thankx

minor phoenix
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Which chest should I select?

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?Paradise

buoyant dockBOT
minor igloo
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Special honing if you wanna try lucky taps
Bracelet if you're 1680 and don't have a decent one yet

minor phoenix
minor igloo
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Then just special

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Your game plan until 1680 will mostly be
Fusions
Special
Bound Gold

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Everything else in that ilvl is secondary

timber musk
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Returned player from 2023 anyone up to help whats going on this game?

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Lol in 2023 1600 was almost impossible to reach now i feel so weak with few 1600 character...

vast oriole
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yes the game changed a lot

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?guides

buoyant dockBOT
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Helpful Guides mokokoThink

Maxroll's beginners guide: Website
Lost Ark Nexus class builds & additional guides: Website
Stoopzz new player guide: Video
Mattchupicchu Combat 101 game setup/mechanics: Video
ImDefild Returning player guide (2026): Video
ImDefild Fresh account express guide (2026): Video
Deathboi Raid Guides: Channel
Dubya ark passive guide: Video
Maxroll's written ark passive guide: Website
Johnpal Lost Ark Dojo guides: Playlist
Maxroll's written class selection information: Website

Refer to #guides-and-info for full list of resources.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!

vast oriole
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can prob watch those guides, especially the ones about ark passive

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but we dont have a free powerpass and express event running right now

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?quickstart

buoyant dockBOT
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Quickstart Info NOTED

So you just powerpassed?

  1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
  2. Skills (K Menu)
  3. Skill Runes
  4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
  5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
  6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
  7. Dismantle settings here

  1. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
  2. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
  3. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

timber musk
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on me

vast oriole
timber musk
tender flicker
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Accessories do not affect engravings anymore

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You pick the engravings now, books make them stronger, they get bonuses from stones

vast oriole
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everything changed

timber musk
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Wait we was doing only few books slot then maxed them out with accs and stone now we have to do all engravings with books how the hell imma farm that much legend book?

vast oriole
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also, leg books are very inexpensive

timber musk
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Ah i remember i paid few K for each book back in 2023 like grduge and kbw was expensive ones

vast oriole
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yes

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game changed xD

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now relic books are expensive

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but you can ignore them

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for a while

timber musk
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Quick question

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starting from 0 will be better with expresses?

vast oriole
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you dont start at 0

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but yes

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its way better to start with powerpass and express

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you can always get some gold from solo raids till express comes tho

timber musk
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And reaper still useless?

vast oriole
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no

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it was never useless

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you just needed hands to play it

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and its still the case

timber musk
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yeah i was bussing brel hard and akkan hard with lunar back in time

vast oriole
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im not sure how lunar is rn

timber musk
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but was so much work we need we have to get in

vast oriole
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yeah, bad rep from floor pov reapers

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reaper isnt a popular class rn

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so bad players arent going on that class

timber musk
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and why my characters in the unversal stroge i had to pick em lol servers merged or something?

buoyant dockBOT
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The servers have recently merged. This has moved around some items, but they are not lost.
Step 1. Reclaim your characters from the Universal Storage on the character select screen.
Step 2. Login and claim your cards on the Universal Storage tab on the card menu using ALT+C.
Step 3. Reclaim your roster storage by using ESC and opening Universal Storage.
Step 4. Re-equip your cards as they were reset and must be re-equipped.

You are all good to go!
For more information on the merge read this.
If you are looking for visuals than checkout the pins in ⁠#lost-ark-help.

timber musk
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oh cool

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what card set we equip LOS30 ?

vast oriole
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yes

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some bosses are weak to other things

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but dont bother with those

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it will take a while to gather cards

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these are the new card sets

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wind = water, that set isnt used anywhere

timber musk
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oh yeah i remember theese sets

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but mostly at endgame we was using los30

vast oriole
timber musk
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only thing i didint get ark passive tho

vast oriole
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fire is used in act4 g2
earth was used in act 3 g3 (cna be used in final day but doesnt matter much, its just for the stagger bonus)
thunder is used in brel v2 (1670ilvl)

vast oriole
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its just 3 trees

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first tree is your stats and your old relic set
second tree is your class engraving
third is additional damage

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pretty much

timber musk
vast oriole
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its way easier than before to understand

timber musk
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here's the another question

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gatekeep is real?

vast oriole
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yes

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never changed and never will

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solo raids exists tho

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and also guilds

timber musk
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and as i rooster level cap increased

vast oriole
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yea, 400

timber musk
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so even 150 rooster and some titles i'll be gatekeeped...

vast oriole
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people dont care much about roster level anymore

tender flicker
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Lunar is pretty punishing/difficult to play

vast oriole
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again, guilds exists if you get gatekept

timber musk
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What about amulet stuffs we was adding them to skills as i remember now they are on my inventory

vast oriole
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deleted

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they are all lvl 5

timber musk
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and what is the actual power level is consider norm now? back in day 1625 or 1640 was cap and 1580 was enough for almost everything now whats the base for every content ?

pure basin
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was there a dps chart req for the serca modes?

tender flicker
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There is combat power now, which is a more accurate gauge of a character's strength than item level

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Current end game raids at normal difficulty start at ilvl 1710. Powerpass takes a character to 1640, express event usually helps you get to 1700 in around a month give or take.

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^dps reqs

timber musk
dim pulsar
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well

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yeah

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anyway ur game will start at 1620 and then u transfer gear to T4, boom ur in current player zone

tender flicker
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They're a bit outdated, yeah. 1640 is the new baseline for tier 4, with most end game players hovering 1700-1710+.

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You can still hone them up and start getting paradise value on them for free starting in t4 (new system, free mats weekly)

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Game is trending towards a less alt centric game in general

nocturne warren
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sounds like a silly question but what are the name of the go to astro gems people cut?

dim pulsar
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depen

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starting with Stability/Corrosion (8willpower start) or minmaxing with Solidity/Distortion (9willpower)

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as its easier to cut usable gem with 8wp starter than 9wp

nocturne warren
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ty

tender flicker
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Prioritize order/red before chaos/blue if give the choice

faint cedar
dim pulsar
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i will 99.99% not cut any 10s to get to that type of minmax

livid fossil
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do i cut thses

azure isle
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whats wrong with the screenshot

livid fossil
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I circle the area

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Instead of showing my messy inventory

balmy plank
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Greens? No
Blues? If they are the 8 cost ones

azure isle
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i'd fuse greens with 8-9 blues

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but im clinically stupid idk if you should listen

livid fossil
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Blue 8

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Dismantle green

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Dismantle high green

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Like 10

azure isle
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fuse 8s trash else

livid fossil
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?cards

buoyant dockBOT
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Recommended Card Pack for each Card Set _

celest grove
balmy plank
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You get dust from dismantling to recraft new gems for potential purples

celest grove
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unless youre really poor, but i just don't touch them and save them to fuse. Ark grid is the best source of power to gold. a little silly to troll and delete the gems

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yeah, isnt it 2 dust per green? and you need 50 dust? i might have numbers off its been awhile

minor briar
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40 dust but also ur just gonna get another green so ye, i dont like dismantling myself

celest grove
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i assume those boxes have the same odds as others, which is a 5%~ for epic, and it can be a 10 cost

livid fossil
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did i do something with the astro gems

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They went from small to bigger

balmy plank
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That inventory is filthy
Anyway, DID you do something with your astrogems? They look like astrogems to me

livid fossil
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I mean I cut them

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The 2 green are bigger was that a good thing

balmy plank
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These?

livid fossil
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Yes

balmy plank
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The sparkly glow means you fused them and they became roster bound. You can move them between your characters and they only use silver to cut instead of gold

livid fossil
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Ah okay

dim pulsar
livid fossil
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do i open theser boxes

balmy plank
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Only if you want/need to

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There is no magic right or wrong answer

livid fossil
balmy plank
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You can delete your old tier 3 accessories though

dim pulsar
livid fossil
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No the Astro gem boxes silly

balmy plank
brisk socket
livid fossil
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do i pick sub core first ?

balmy plank
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You want the 2 red cores used to activate destiny first

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assuming you have no cores at all yet

livid fossil
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I have some from act 4 but I don’t think they count

balmy plank
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Well I suggest you consult the class guide to be certain

livid fossil
balmy plank
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Yea, those are nothing. But you should check which cores you need on the class guide when you open the chests

azure isle
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if ur hellfire you have 2 options

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nevermind you dont have options i didnt see their rarity

livid fossil
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Yeah I really don’t have any yet

dim pulsar
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u just need to open some shit

azure isle
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if it was relic selector you'd have an option

dim pulsar
azure isle
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legendaries dont provide much

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just get destiny offender/defender

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or wait for pity

livid fossil
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I have relic selection

azure isle
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what is your grid goal

livid fossil
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Think 111 is probably the better one

azure isle
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ok you have 2 options with 1 relic 1 legendary

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  • get relic sun and legendary moon, 17p 14p gives you damage
  • get relic star and legendary moon, 17p star grants push immune on 2nd highest hitting skill, 14p is self explanatory but you cant use it unless you get atleast 14p on sun
minor igloo
azure isle
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it is super nice to have

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but its up to you

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this gets push immune

livid fossil
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before i pick wrong one this top one right

azure isle
bold geyser
cunning haven
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Hello does serca gear give any cp gain?

vast oriole
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Only if you hone

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Or you had 24-25 gear

cunning haven
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Trying to plan when id be ready for 1730

cunning haven
vast oriole
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Yes

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Since you dont gain ilvl from it

azure isle
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does stimulant fill mana bar on classes that use it?

lavish mortar
azure isle
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i guess embers are considered specialty meter

cunning haven
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According to the Raid Gold google sheet, chest costs for all t4 raids are now cheaper than market prices.. Should we be buying every single chest now if we plan to push the char?

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O_o

lavish mortar
cunning haven
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Wtfffff

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🤯

dim pulsar
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i mean, depen, if u RLY want to push ASAP then yeah

cunning haven
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Wow i been missing out

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I wonder how long its been like this

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O_O

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But i guess if i do that, ill have mats but no gold to hone

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😂

azure isle
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does blocking not block global chat messages

fervent mauve
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when fusing like 3 green astrogem together and another green gem comes out but it's not silver what happened to it

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requires less willpower?

lavish mortar
lavish mortar
fervent mauve
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fiddy fiddy ok

cunning haven
bold geyser
brisk socket
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so im doing brelshaza but im getting killed cuz of a mech, i need touch pentagon or star depending on what astaroth draws, but after i take the same shape i get hit with 5x20k waves that kill me

bold geyser
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tryna remember how solo goes, are you destroying all the shapes?

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then getting a big circle around you?

brisk socket
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just looked at a vid and he did the opposite

bold geyser
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depends on what you get 😄

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lemme pull it up

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ah you dont get the circle the mannequin does

brisk socket
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ffs

bold geyser
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but thats the mech, right? x42 in gate 2?

brisk socket
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i cant read the raid text that fast

brisk socket
bold geyser
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right, so its just a question of if you get diamonds to kill or squares

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thats not altogether different from how the mech is in normal and hard, just less crowded

brisk socket
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since i now understand what i need to do than i will just try again for the 5th time

bold geyser
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thats learning 😄

brisk socket
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one more question tho

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should i have with passives more crit or more speciliaztion? if i use 30/30 crit and 10/30 spec then i have 60%crit with no demon mode

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or should i go more for the spec?

bold geyser
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demonic is a spec class you should be taking all the spec you should get

brisk socket
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whatever that mech is, it doesnt work for me but i did win by using potions

bold geyser
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the mech after that, or still the shapes?

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grats nonetheless 🙂

brisk socket
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the pentagon or star mech

bold geyser
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yaya

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dont worry, more shapes to come

bold geyser
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oh oh ohhhh i forgot about that sorry

brisk socket
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that shiled of ligth never appeared to me

bold geyser
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you have to kite the correct shape into her for the shield to appear

brisk socket
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ah

bold geyser
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if its not chasing yo you have to get a little closer to bait it

brisk socket
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she needs to get hit with the other?

bold geyser
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the other you can just hug or leave it if its still

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if she has a star over her head you make sure the star flies into her, or penta for penta

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that completely slipped my mind sorry 😄

brisk socket
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the ingame text just told me "collect same shape as astaroth draws"

bold geyser
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yeah sometimes the translations are not great

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sometimes they're actively bad =((((

brisk socket
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not to mention

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the text was for like 2-3 sec

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which is very short since for me its intense moment and cant focus

bold geyser
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yeah the UI leaves something to be desired a lot of the time

brisk socket
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basically took an hour to clear gate1-2

bold geyser
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thats prog, sometimes, especially if you're out of practice

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wont say thats a lot, or a little, its a solo raid, so its just between you and the mechs

brisk socket
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out of practise is a very mild way of putting it

bold geyser
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you beat it, and now if you do it again, on this character or another, it should be easier the next time

brisk socket
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new question

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im looking at engravings

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are these not enabled?

bold geyser
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they are

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you can see the active bonuses on the right side

brisk socket
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shouldnt these be like more than 0?

bold geyser
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those are the levels you increase by reading engraving books

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so to raise that you read legendary cursed doll

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if you mouse over the engraving you'll see it list a handful of ##/##/##/## bonuses, as you increase that number it goes up

lucid axle
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is there odds TFM will be extended since the bug has yet to be patched?

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or are we just gonna have to deal with it

tender flicker
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This is pretty much the tfm info we have. Maybe fixed next reset? Tbh extending 1month was longer than I expected in the first place.

brisk socket
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@bold geyser thanks to you i have more than quadrupled my dmg output in 24 hrs

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my road to success begins here

rose jewel
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Soc pulling the hacks

lucid axle
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is the bug bad or still playable

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haven’t gotten to it yet

vast oriole
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Its playable

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Just need to do mechs

vast oriole
tender flicker
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mechs Weirdga

vast oriole
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Im actually surprised they bothered ngl

lucid axle
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swnd?

vast oriole
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Send

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Sorry

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On phone

lucid axle
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ah lol

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maybe i’ll do tfm then who knows mokokoHmmm

tender flicker
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might as well get in there if you finish your raids 👍

azure isle
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@bold geyser can you quadruple my damage too

rose jewel
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He'll make it 1/4th instead

azure isle
lavish mortar
azure isle
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cant afford

bold geyser
rose jewel
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Johnpal just cooked a 7h all classes showcase vid

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?guides

buoyant dockBOT
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Helpful Guides mokokoThink

Maxroll's beginners guide: Website
Lost Ark Nexus class builds & additional guides: Website
Stoopzz new player guide: Video
Mattchupicchu Combat 101 game setup/mechanics: Video
ImDefild Returning player guide (2026): Video
ImDefild Fresh account express guide (2026): Video
Deathboi Raid Guides: Channel
Dubya ark passive guide: Video
Maxroll's written ark passive guide: Website
Johnpal Lost Ark Dojo guides: Playlist
Maxroll's written class selection information: Website

Refer to #guides-and-info for full list of resources.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!

balmy plank
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He posted it?

tender flicker
rose jewel
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4h ago? I'm checking it

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That one

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My thumbnail said 29 but whatever

balmy plank
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Nice, Ill ask to have it added to the guides

tender flicker
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shruge thumbnail does say 29 classes on my end

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Except on here

rose jewel
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It says 58 right here on disc, that's some black magic stuff

balmy plank
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Not putting class specs beside eachother in the video though is a crazy choice

azure isle
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first time seeing a class showcase per engraving per ark grid on each and every class

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fucking poggers W cutest streamer

balmy plank
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Cautty had one until he became a Marathon streamer

rose jewel
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And marathon is like, about to die

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Unfortunate jump of content

azure isle
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one dead game to another

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stream destiny next

rose jewel
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Lost ark is more likely to live compared to marathon

azure isle
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did it flop

rose jewel
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Lost ark makes money, I doubt marathon does

balmy plank
azure isle
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i never followed marathon stuff

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what happened to it

balmy plank
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Huge boom because its Bungie and looked unique, but its ultimately just a sweaty pvp shooter thats also an extraction shooter

rose jewel
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It's not about hating marathon in itself, it's about Bungie, Sony, and how horrendous the game looks, it's literally a rainbow puke

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And the skins are super ugly

azure isle
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oof

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and they abandoned destiny for that shit

balmy plank
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Oh it's also a hero shooter extraction shooter. Everyone loves hero shooters these days

rose jewel
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Suuuuurely

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Heard they added a PvE game mode or something, after the player base went to like 8k~

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720 views is also not that good ngl

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3d ago

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Wish him the best but I don't think the sudden game jump was smart, not to marathon at least

bold geyser
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everybody liked sunset overdrive

rose jewel
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not the same style, far from it, marathon is just ugly as fuck in any angle you see it

rose wren
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?quickstart

buoyant dockBOT
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Quickstart Info NOTED

So you just powerpassed?

  1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
  2. Skills (K Menu)
  3. Skill Runes
  4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
  5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
  6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
  7. Dismantle settings here

  1. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
  2. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
  3. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

sacred zinc
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what should i be claiming for the weekly wayward missions?

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ive just been getting glaciers breath for lvling up my gear

cunning haven
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Is there a limit to how much mail i can have in my mailbox?

sacred zinc
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i have a lonesome stone of soaring that cannot be dismantled or sold or dropped, how do i get rid of it?

lavish mortar
rose wren
sacred zinc
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also have a barrage enhancement engraving recipe, but i dont see an engraving for it, just barrage enhancement in my enlightenment

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basically the recipe is in a selection chest where the only other applicable one for an artillerist is the firepower enhancement, but dont want to select anything til i know what to select

rose wren
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does it have like [class]?

lavish mortar
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If its a class engraving selection you can toss it

sacred zinc
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ya thats what it was

sacred zinc
bold geyser
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can we get a pic

sacred zinc
bold geyser
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left one can be dismantled or tossed, right one has to be tossed. drag out of inventory and destroy

sacred zinc
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sorry, i thought i tried to drop it out and it didnt work

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but it did

bold geyser
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no worries 🙂

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some things really do have triple immunity

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and the only way to get rid of them is to delete the character 💀

lavish mortar
rose wren
bold geyser
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whats the other one?

#

or you just mean char bound

sacred zinc
#

is there a way to farm circulated leapstones or concentrated leapstones?

rose wren
#

related to marker/AH like tradeable

bold geyser
bold geyser
#

...does anyone else keep getting one shot by the crucible boss this week

tender flicker
#

sometimes on a squishy class like sorc/bard, yeah

cunning haven
#

Hello, if i block a toxic being, will it block their whole roster?

lucid axle
#

think so?

#

honestly i dont really block ppl but at least for adding friends adding one adds the whole roster

minor briar
#

unless they join lobby off invite

cunning haven
#

Ohhhhh i see thank you thank you

cunning haven
pale light
#

Help act 4 NA gate 2 unjail need 1 more people

gusty kraken
#

hi guys, want to ask about lifeskilling, ive jsut been doing loggin for so long, wondering if its worth for me to re-do my tools as it didnt have the kick attempt attributes on the tools. thoughts?

gusty kraken
#

sweet, thankyou Tylo for the link!

cunning haven
minor briar
#

no

#

all slots

tall wren
#

is a mid/mid better than the accessories from the boxes?

astral root
#

if you're speaking about the solo shop ones yes

outer mason
burnt pendant
#

I've got LoS and KLC maxed for card sets. I've got a dick ton of legendary selectors. Which card set should I max next?

rose wren
#

u have like 50?

burnt pendant
#

.... like 16 😭

#

But everything else is like... 6-10 away from maxing

rose wren
#

?cards

buoyant dockBOT
#

Recommended Card Pack for each Card Set _

rose wren
#

hmm posts somewhere which to up

burnt pendant
#

Hmm

#

What's the raid's cardset?

vast oriole
#

serca is holy and next raid (cathedral in june) is dark

burnt pendant
#

Okay, so I'm covered for serca and cathedral. If I want to do Xbrel, thunder. Otherwise earth for stagger. Alright.

vast oriole
#

i personally never use earth in kazeros because my class just deals no stagger

lavish mortar
#

people are recommending water for extreme aegir Ackshually

balmy plank
# burnt pendant What's the raid's cardset?

I got the full thing

Lightning - Krathios (1720), Brel G1&G2 (1670+)
Earth - Skolakia (1680), Mordum G3 (1680+)
Fire - Drexalas (1700), Armoche G2 (1700+)
Water - Used by nothing right now
Dark - Sonavel, Lumencaligo (Only if you're 1730+ and it is the weekly rotated guardian, otherwise not used) Cathedral (1700+)

faint mantle
#

I think about buying sth from the shop with rc and sell it for a bit more gold income, anyone knows what has the best value f.e. which skin currently?

bold geyser
#

lifeskill pots are always pretty good, dunno about skins and the like

tender flicker
#

tends to be newer skins on newer classes

#

Realistically, just check the market including recently sold. Keep in mind there is a 3 day hold period before you can sell a skin.

faint mantle
vast oriole
#

everyday skin

#

the top chest

#

sells for like 200k

#

on euc

faint mantle
#

the one for 2600 rc right?

vast oriole
#

na i meant the top alone

#

700rc

rose wren
#

adjust class filter on market

faint mantle
#

ahh i see now

#

so best to go for guardian knight or warrior female i guess?

bold geyser
#

haven't heard back so i'm hazarding an update to the gold efficiency calc, anything new to add besides serca gear?

amber grove
#

I just cut thisdeadge

bold geyser
#

pretty good 😄

vast oriole
amber grove
#

I might be needing the gold to push to 1720 and 1730 but the cp will be good to not get gatekept anymore

errant pendant
#

i would sell and buy books

#

whats your gearscore and cp?

errant pendant
#

yeah sell and work on ark grid and probably get some mid/mid jewelry

lavish mortar
#

sell it

#

buy mid/mid or high/low neck and an earring

errant pendant
#

2000 cp is pretty low when you pugging serca

shy chasm
#

Theres the new abyss dungeon but idk what it gives other than more cores

mellow mauve
bold geyser
#

so potentially no real change to cost projections

azure isle
#

new currency to gamba more

bold geyser
#

currently just considering straight player power not currencies 😄

shy chasm
#

Oh

azure isle
#

theres an ancient selector but it unlocks at 1760

shy chasm
#

God forbid we get ancient cores easily

mellow mauve
bold geyser
shy chasm
#

Cod the selector?

#

For*

azure isle
#

200 for the selector 100 for the gamba iirc

mellow mauve
bold geyser
shy chasm
#

Oh damn you still need 400 essence

mellow mauve
#

but you can price it for chaos

bold geyser
#

that can be phase 2 😄

#

right now just trying to pick apart the sheet to see how they did everything i think i have it sorted

#

once i have all the serca armor and weapons added i can try to complicate it further

#

i'll add sidereal weapon so newbies can see how bad a deal it is 😄

azure isle
#

i doubt any new player knows about esther

#

within the boundaries of the game

bold geyser
#

every once in a while someone comes in here and asks, would be good to have it on paper

azure isle
#

unless for some reason they do t3 brel

bold geyser
#

i dunno how many people actually use this sheet regularly

azure isle
#

i dont even know what ur talking about

bold geyser
#

seeeeee

#

i'll finish and one-time link it so the mods dont get on me

azure isle
#

its easy just bribe a mod in ur region with gems

#

i heard ice is close to full 10s

#

winkwink

mellow mauve
bold geyser
#

just adding these then for now, until i hear otherwise

lusty blade
#

are outgoing damage and non-directional skill damage both multiplicative? Like if all my skills are non-directional than right side would always be better?

lavish mortar
#

very minor but shrug

bold geyser
bold geyser
#

so some of these formulas have hardcoded values in them, do we know where the %s come from? otherwise i'm booting up the arsonistic sheet and making some assumptions =X

neon rivet
#

?Guides

buoyant dockBOT
#

Helpful Guides mokokoThink

Maxroll's beginners guide: Website
Lost Ark Nexus class builds & additional guides: Website
Stoopzz new player guide: Video
Mattchupicchu Combat 101 game setup/mechanics: Video
ImDefild Returning player guide (2026): Video
ImDefild Fresh account express guide (2026): Video
Deathboi Raid Guides: Channel
Dubya ark passive guide: Video
Maxroll's written ark passive guide: Website
Johnpal Lost Ark Dojo guides: Playlist
Maxroll's written class selection information: Website

Refer to #guides-and-info for full list of resources.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!

bold geyser
#

when were honing rates/costs/etc last changed for T4?

vast oriole
#

prob when they nerfed all gold up to mordum

#

dont remember when

#

?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
#

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
Standard: +12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Express: +14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

bold geyser
#

im trying to understand the vals in this sheet, says they were updated april 2025 so i suspect thats at least one major change or another since

think its just the one w/ T4 nerf....

neon rivet
#

So i just reached 1640 on my first alt... anything specific i should aim for him now?

#

Saving to buy lv 6 gems on npc

faint cedar
#

1660

neon rivet
#

isnt parking at 1640 a thing?

shadow pasture
#

yeah like back then

vast oriole
#

1640 is useless

shadow pasture
#

nowadays its pretty cheap to just hone

#

just park all your alts at 1750 for next raid

vast oriole
#

1700 is nm

mellow mauve
neon rivet
#

Stoped my main at 1700 will continue it then

faint cedar
#

Main should stop at 1730

#

Alts can go to 1710 then work them up to 1720 to park

#

But if ur mains at 1700 that’s a long time ago so I’d just focus on main so you can actually play the game

bold geyser
#

its working 😮

#

(gonna need some help w/ %s tho, sec)

cunning haven
#

Hellow

#

Where can i find the bis manor crafting setups, besides the [special] items?

#

Or are there no such info out there Sadge

bold geyser
#

there aren't a lot of items, so it doesn't change very often

#

p sure you're just stacking whatever cost reduction you have on hand, someone may be able to chime in with specifics

gray verge
#

pretty much anything with high [special] and crafting Great Success / Cost Reduction for those looking to make fusions

bold geyser
#

iirc great success is multiplicative on a vanishingly small chance and you're better off avoiding it

rapid fiber
#

10% great success will be 7.7% you're better off maxing cost first and fitting in whatever % success rate you can get after

tender flicker
#

wasn't it 5%?

#

not great either way

jovial bobcat
#

So i just finished the voldis msq, got the free 1585 gear and unlocked honing. Is this gear enough to do the south kurzan msq or should i upgrade my gear first?

marsh grove
#

its enough

#

MSQ aren't super difficult

#

and theres no potion limit

#

if you end up struggling with current gear, check your build or ask here

jovial bobcat
#

Also wanted to ask if the accs i got from punikka are enough or should i do some of the solo content first like dungeons and raids

rose jewel
#

just send it, you will replace everything asap at 1640 then 1680, nothing you get matters yet

marsh grove
jovial bobcat
#

Yeah saw the waymark mission i have currently will give me another set of accs once i complete it

marsh grove
#

it'll give you accessories

#

ye

jovial bobcat
marsh grove
#

I forget what the lower waymark gives but I mean just in general the sooner you get the next tier of accessories the better off you'll be

jovial bobcat
#

Ive been ignoring the weekly waymark missions cause i was focusing on finishing the msq

#

Should i try doing them as well?

marsh grove
#

you should be getting full weekly credit but just doing what u normally do

#

I'm talking about the tiered rewards, that have their own missions

#

for 1640/1680, and for lower as well

#

the gear you have now should be fine

#

I forget what the waymark mission gives u for that ilvl once u finish it

bold geyser
#

msq is most important, most of the waymark weekly things are things you would be doing anyway. if there are things in the non-weekly quest list that seems out of your way, you can go do that, but you will likely be fine by just progressing and not worrying about it

jovial bobcat
#

alright thanks

dim shard
#

at il131 should i be selling or dismantling all the junk gear i get while spamming quests?

bold geyser
#

ilvl 131 as in early early early story?

dim shard
#

yes i started the game on monday xd

bold geyser
#

then yeah thats fine it wont matter much, its just gonna turn into scrap you can sell

dim pulsar
#

yeah, dismantle/destroy all shit items u dont need

pearl kettle
#

why i cant trade it to Donia in South Kurzan?????

tender flicker
#

Wandering merchants don’t always carry the same loot table

#

I guess rather, they’ll sometimes carry different stuff

pearl kettle
#

its true?

bold geyser
#

Just try again next time they're up 🥲

dim pulsar
#

its not 100% up trade, gotta snipe it

weary oyster
#

this frog event is crazy dude Susge

marsh grove
#

is there any way to turn off skill chat macros for certain presets?

#

I want to keep it for support pally, but dont want it to go when I'm on DPS setting in hourglass or something

dim pulsar
#

well

#

no

marsh grove
#

sad

sage tusk
#

how do i do this? i checked on youtube and the person follwowed quests ect but i dont have anything popping up

#

ohhhh the merchant has it now

dim pulsar
sage tusk
#

omg per week

#

ty

jovial bobcat
#

what should i prioritize buying here first?

marsh grove
#

<@&938198046896955542>

dim pulsar
gray verge
#

Need that landing page "dont post or get banned" stub

marsh grove
jovial bobcat
timber light
#

thre's no disadvantage to soloing cube, right?

tender flicker
#

skipping queue time basically

timber light
#

that's an advantage 🙂

marsh grove
#

group is faster due to hp scaling

#

but queue times are rough so

#

usually solo is best

timber light
#

I just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing out on rewards.

#

I normally wait on queue, but not happening this morn

gray verge
#

but if its on-level, grouping can be smoother, especially if sup

timber light
#

gotta save 80k gold for frog! 🙁

marsh grove
timber light
#

I'm always broke.

#

I'm stupid and am trying to maintain to many characters, i enjoy alts, and this game DOES NOT support that habit.

#

trying to change out my valk for scrapper right now, which isn't helping, but I just dumped 200k into aero for like, 3 1 lvl gear upgrades.

#

cause that's freakin expensive.

dim pulsar
#

swaping chars without express Weirdga

#

and without stacked shit from hell

timber light
#

I've got stacked shit, just gold ios always a problem

#

think we are getting a pp next month, and probably one with the new class i won't make cause it's male.

tender flicker
#

Should be on the powerpass, doubt we're getting the new class so soon though

timber light
#

no, probably not for awhile, I think the only thing we know about it is that it's gonna be male?

tender flicker
#

Ah, I can't read

timber light
#

blame the education system

tender flicker
#

Male, gender unlock instead of entirely new class, from a southern continent and apparently popular with female player base (people are assuming yoz)

timber light
#

male aero?

#

that would be kinda a wash, considering it's not the best DPS?

#

maybe male Artist, but that'd be wierd.

tender flicker
#

shruge Dunno. Though I thought windfury was somewhat popular/liked in KR.

timber light
#

it's fun, just not great DPS

#

think it's like A+ or something

grand osprey
#

hello for dps, is it better wp or atk power for Earring ?

balmy plank
#

the % lines work out to be about the same overall damage increase

timber light
#

WP by .02 %

#

🙂

jovial bobcat
#

what reward is the most worth it to get here?

timber light
#

err, .01%

#

@jovial bobcat gonna kinda be whatever you need most at the time?

balmy plank
timber light
#

I gnerally go for the solar crystal area, but I also don't reallly need the others.

jovial bobcat
#

still in t3 and this is my first char, still doing the south kurzan msq

timber light
#

the processed stone thing is the only really worthless one, and that's because someone made the stupid descision to only give you 1 😛

balmy plank
#

If your quality is bad, the chaos stones are good. You can choose between armor or wep too

#

It mostly just depends on what you need most

timber light
#

I mean, you'd haveta be below like 50% though, like 1 stone just isn't worth it 99% of the time.

marsh grove
#

@jovial bobcat ingame name? ill send you some 16-19 t3 books

marsh grove
#

@jovial bobcat sent

jovial bobcat
marsh grove
#

13-15 are mad expensive, worth getting from solo shop imo (depending on your other mats)

jovial bobcat
#

this one?

marsh grove
#

no

#
  • the weapon one
#
  • leapstones + fusion
jovial bobcat
#

1585-1640 costs gold to enhance?

marsh grove
#

no

jovial bobcat
#

btw is it worth buying this?

balmy plank
#

Nah

marsh grove
#

not really

jovial bobcat
marsh grove
#

the books I meant, off of AH

#

for 13-15

jovial bobcat
#

in enhancement mats?

marsh grove
#

compared to 16-19

jovial bobcat
#

im not following you haha

balmy plank
#

at 1620 you'll transition to Tier 4 and your old tier 3 stuff will become obsolete. No need to get stuff like bracelets or accessories. Focus your solo tokens on honing stuff to get to 1620 faster

marsh grove
#

there are tradable ones that go on AH

#

and untradable from solo shop

#

I sent u a lot of 16-19

balmy plank
marsh grove
#

u should get 13-15 from the shop

jovial bobcat
#

ahh i thought by books u meant engraving books haha

#

aight now i get it

marsh grove
#

ideally you wanna be honing booking every tap

#

can be worth to brute force 13-15 if you run out tho

#

depending on other mats

#

really sucks that they gutted t3 paradise

#

it was enough to almost fully carry a char

jovial bobcat
#

well pp is coming soon haha just doing the msq just so i can experience the story

#

but ill try to progress this char as much as i can in the meantime

marsh grove
#

if u wanna play more each week then just make new pp char your main

#

and slow push current char to t4

timber light
#

this would be such a waste, I have 4 cube keys I could turn into a gold hell key, and I thought about it 🙂

lavish mortar
timber light
#

you can't with high cube tickets.

#

only lets you convert to gold.

#

never mind, wasn't showing me the other options

#

duh

#

strict filtering for some reason only shows the highest key 😛

#

I wouldn't convert anyway, since gems are worth more to me then anything outta paradise.

#

well, except engraving books, but they don't offer that key 🙂

#

20% chance my a**, go though 20 crystals and get 2 upgrades is not 20%, forgot the 3 ancient grade.

livid fossil
#

lol

bold geyser
hot dock
#

do you get less rewards if you do anythin gother than plat for boss?

paper walrus
#

100 less silver

#

rank does not matter, just hit the boss

livid fossil
#

Why no elisyum ticket

#

I hit the dam boss a lot

dim pulsar
#

ur not lucky

livid fossil
#

I thought it was expected reward

#

From sev

#

Or RnG drop

dim pulsar
#

Weirdga ofc its not 100% chance

livid fossil
#

Oh okay

#

I must gotten lucky 2x lol go figure

bold geyser
#

its at least 30% though i've gotten several

#

usually once a week or so

vital cypress
#

is act 1 hard worth the struggle or should i just play solo im at 1691 power

livid fossil
#

This has been 3time I didn’t get it and the boss was hit

#

Well so you have enough people to do act 1 hm

#

Cause I don’t know if there is group for it

vital cypress
#

there is sometimes

#

but im wondering if its worth it overall or should i just skip it

vast oriole
#

i know hard gives more gold than solo

#

but its not worth the chance of jail

livid fossil
#

Solo would be faster

vital cypress
#

im just wondering cause i also noticed that the gold i get from solo raids compared to even normal gold rewards that it on maxroll then even the normal gives more

livid fossil
#

You won’t get hm gold but there is still gold in solo version which is better than getting jail

dim pulsar
#

dunno if maxroll is updated with gold values

livid fossil
#

You could also check on actual raid

#

On each gate for each mode

tender flicker
#

You’ll have to learn mechs and trust other people will perform them too. Up to you and whether you need tradeable gold I guess.

vital cypress
#

also im not rlly in an uncomfortable position with gold i have 60k roster 30k normal and 10k character

vast oriole
vital cypress
#

and im not planning to spend it to buy 1 fusion material for 100 gold each

vital cypress
vast oriole
#

yeah

tender flicker
#

You can check gold values in game

#

Gate info

vital cypress
#

but you cant solo

tender flicker
#

Huh?

vast oriole
#

the sheet pinned in this channel is getting updated every time theres a change

vital cypress
#

oh wait nvm

vital cypress
livid fossil
#

If you want the struggle for hm gold hope find 8 people that won’t jail you

#

But if you want fast gold do solo

amber grove
#

at what cp do we stop getting gatekept for nm kazeros/serca/act4 ?

dim pulsar
#

thats neat

#

u would need to be 9k cp

#

some ppl will gatekeep even if ur 4k cp

#

the "baseline" would be something like 2k at 1710ilvl

amber grove
#

and I cannot get into a freaking raid for the life of me

#

I ve been playing lobby simulator atp just to get my weekly raids done

dim pulsar
#

is ur ark grid usable?

amber grove
#

somewhat

dim pulsar
#

what u mean by somewhat?

amber grove
hardy sleet
dim pulsar
#

well u need those relics at 17p like ASAP

amber grove
#

ark grid has been a pain in the butt

#

I get perfect side stats and perfect order points just to get no willpower efficiency

vast oriole
#

you dont need perfect side stats atm

dim pulsar
#

well overall its fine char, ppl will always expect MORE

amber grove
dim pulsar
#

14p is min, u need 17p

tender flicker
#

If you don’t have a decent title you’ll probably need more cp to compensate

dim pulsar
#

thats also true

#

rat char with title > fine char without

#

thats fucked up we know

vast oriole
#

well thats why you join lfg discords or try to get a guild

amber grove
tender flicker
#

People are usually looking for 10x clear titles on hw

vast oriole
#

nobody cares about serca title

dim pulsar
amber grove
dim pulsar
#

well

amber grove
#

I haven't cleared it 10x yet

dim pulsar
#

thats a NO TITLE

tender flicker
#

Yeah not that one

vast oriole
#

boom is useless

dim pulsar
#

boom is just come do g1

amber grove
#

oh boi

tender flicker
#

Tbh arch demon is kinda iffy too

vast oriole
#

banana would be better atp

dim pulsar
amber grove
#

how am I supposed to clear it 10x if I cannot get into the damn raid in the first placeKEKW

vast oriole
#

get a guild

tender flicker
#

Picking a title for flavor would be more trustworthy

vast oriole
#

do your own lobbie

vast oriole
#

and have patience

dim pulsar
#

its not rocket science in serca

faint cedar
#

The only blue titles I’d accept are the 10x serca and born from death

vast oriole
#

i mean serca theres no sidereals

#

but not like kaz side are hard

amber grove
dim pulsar
#

u can fail x120 and still clear

amber grove
faint cedar
dim pulsar
#

just dont gatekeep like idiots that are 2k cp and gatekeep for 2500

amber grove
dim pulsar
vast oriole
#

thing is youre 2k so its not like you can gatekeep a lot to get better characters

faint cedar
#

Im just saying for relevant blue titles those 2 are the only ones I really look for

vast oriole
#

my title is very relevant

faint cedar
#

Fine a strong friend and have them apply

amber grove
faint cedar
#

Whales bring whales

dim pulsar
vast oriole
vast oriole
dim pulsar
#

u can see ppl with 4k cp but they do like 120m dps

vast oriole
#

yep

vast oriole
#

yes, technically illegal one

faint cedar
#

120m dps on 4k is so illegal

amber grove
dim pulsar
vast oriole
#

whats your dps in serca usually

#

you can check on the ingame meter

#

thing is

#

supports in nm are terrorists with 0 uptime

#

and poor gear

faint cedar
#

But support privelege

azure isle
#

just ping everyone or here in my server

vast oriole
azure isle
#

i said my server

vast oriole
#

ah

amber grove
faint cedar
#

Is he eu

azure isle
#

there are 17 people

vast oriole
#

then there you go

#

find people to play with on zyla's discord

amber grove
vast oriole
#

if youre not storng enough, you need friends

azure isle
#

idk why you complain about getting gatekept here when i invited you exclusively so you dont get gatekept

faint cedar
#

Nvm I woulda offered

#

But NA

amber grove
vast oriole
#

better to complain

amber grove
#

but this week I couldn't make it before everyone finished their raids

azure isle
#

im an exception, i only have 2 characters that are on serca ilvl and i finish fast

#

there are no rules in the server

faint cedar
#

Whatever min to clear is, people usually want 500cp higher, if you get gatekept you make lobby

azure isle
#

ping here or everyone and ask people

dim pulsar
azure isle
#

nothing is stopping you

dim pulsar
faint cedar
#

Since sub 1730 is still nm, there’s a lot of people with juicy 1720s sitting around that can make up for your lack of dmg

azure isle
#

at one point im going to schedule my characters and take 1-2 homeless people per my characters

dim pulsar
#

yeah a bit juicy

azure isle
#

instead of going full static

faint cedar
azure isle
dim pulsar
faint cedar
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carried by 10/7 stone

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xdd

azure isle
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ur not either

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bozo

dim pulsar
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Weirdga but ok

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just a little bit higher than u

azure isle
dim pulsar
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tha BOOOOOM, tha ultra RAT

azure isle
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its 3080 with cursed doll

faint cedar
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whats ss

azure isle
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wdym

dim pulsar
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el cheapo

azure isle
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same bonus as cursed doll with different negative

dim pulsar
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works, but doesnt work in serca

faint cedar
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just buy book forehead

azure isle
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say that to my

amber grove
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I think the game heard me complain and gave me keen blunt weapon book in chaos gate

faint cedar
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i actually specifically bought cd to get rid of SS

dim pulsar
warm field
amber grove
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do I sell it now or keep it for after frog event?

dim pulsar
dim pulsar
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we dont have crystal ball

amber grove
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market going brr

faint cedar
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books will go up after frog is over

dim pulsar
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money now > market crash later

faint cedar
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but how much is a question

dim pulsar
faint cedar
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yeah but simple supply and demand, supply goes down, book price goes up

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not saying it skyrockets

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but chances are it raises again a bit

warm field
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I'm almost done with adrenaline then I just need KBW.

faint cedar
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i need 2.25 engravings

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but thats still about 6m in books

mellow mauve
hot dock
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guys what's the cheapest way to get to 1700 if i have all pieces at 18 with adv hone 20 minus weapon and another piece of armor at 17

faint cedar
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?advhoning

buoyant dockBOT
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Optimal Advanced Honing Order
Standard: +12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Express: +14 -> 1-10 -> +16 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

mellow mauve
faint cedar
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sounds like the 2 17s to 18

tender flicker
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^ books are probably worth buying if you ran out

faint cedar
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armors are 300 and weapons are 240 on na rn

hot dock
dim pulsar
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ofc

hot dock
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ok ty

dim pulsar
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its way cheaper to tap 18 than full send ah30

hot dock
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i mean i would just need 1 piece to reach ah 30

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but fair

dim pulsar
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but u would need to go full juiced to make it cheaper

faint cedar
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since one is ur weapon id recommend doing the tapping

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your game tho, play how u want

hot dock
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would 2k fusion be enough?

faint cedar
hot dock
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oh nice

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i tought it would be worse without books

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would it be worth if all this account do is solo stuff?

faint cedar
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is it an alt account?

hot dock
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no it's a friend account

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im takin care of it when i have time

faint cedar
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some golds better than no gold

hot dock
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some gold where?

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u get more gold at 1700?

faint cedar
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1700+ is all group raids

hot dock
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bruh he has 1100 cp he will never enter armoche

faint cedar
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solo mode it is

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value depends on goal

livid fossil
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Mordom Brel agier

hot dock
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ye that's why im askin if it's worth since 1680 is last solo raid

livid fossil
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Solo

hot dock
faint cedar
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if ur just maintaining it then do those 3 solo

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not any point pushing any further except for next level chaos dungeon to start stacking astrogems

livid fossil
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It’s fast and you don’t have to wait for group

hot dock
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not even for the uptick in gold for island?

dim pulsar
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u gain more

hot dock
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it's roster bound gold

dim pulsar
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but its nothing BIG of gold

livid fossil
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Gold is gold

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Least to me

hot dock
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maybe startin to him to collect astro is good?

dim pulsar
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assGems> no assGems

hot dock
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yea lol

faint cedar
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if hes 2 taps off of 1700 its worth doing

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even if not doing armoche

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the passive astros over time

hot dock
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also better cube and chaos gate too i think

faint cedar
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the gold being roster bound doesnt matter since hed be using the gold to hone anyway

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wouldnt be getting anything otherwise

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some>none

livid fossil
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Waiting for full character bound gold only game

hot dock
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what about waitin for special honin would that be better?

faint cedar
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paradise?

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you could

hot dock
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ye

dim pulsar
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free taps > gold ofc its "worth"

faint cedar
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its not your acc it doesnt really matter

dim pulsar
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but that all depen on RNG

hot dock
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1680 doesnt give many special tou

faint cedar
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an extra week of sub 1700 chaos wont make a dif

hot dock
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he has 12 blue keys

faint cedar
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just run them then

dim pulsar
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run them, dont wait

faint cedar
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run enough to hit 1700

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then save the rest for him

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if u dont wanna do them all

hot dock
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yea

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ill do that then thanks

hot dock
faint cedar
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at 1700?

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yeah

hot dock
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damn that sucs

faint cedar
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doesnt really matter much rn

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koko isnt an insta accept with no event

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and 1100 cp at 1700 means hes missing some pretty important horizontal power progression

bold geyser
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Post your char for inspection mokokoNodders

faint cedar
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my guess is karma

livid fossil
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My guess is why we caring about someone piloting someone else’s account

hot dock
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he s missin karma aand potions

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also bracelet

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and has stock accessories

azure isle
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where is this supposed friend