lost-ark-help

[rose jewel]

tripods are these

[rose wren]

press k and u see the middle section, thats what we are on about

[rose jewel]

the things on the right

[untold gulch]

Okay so actually I have a question about that.

[rose jewel]

you can freely move, add and remove them

[azure isle]

i think 0-50 is better to experience blindly than getting overwhelmed with guidance

[untold gulch]

So what am I missing that your SS shows no skill above 14 and yet you've got that third thing unlocked. Doesnt that say you need 20 pts to get to?

[rose wren]

each to there own

[vast oriole]

we get a lot of skillpoints

with levels, and potions

that will be way later

[untold gulch]

Sorry 48 actually

[rose jewel]

14 is the max for combat lv70, you'll take a good while to get there

[vast oriole]

youre missing points noob

[rose jewel]

just focus on one hard hitting skill as you get more skill points

vairgris roster idgaf its full of supports

[untold gulch]

But right now the Skill Tree changes for each skill I select it seems. And it says I need 48 points in that skill to reach the end of the tree. Buts thats not possible.

[rose jewel]

you think im gonna do that? fuk no

[untold gulch]

Does it track more than one skills points together?

Or is it from Gear giving you +skills?

[rose jewel]

combat level and potions

you will get more and more as you level up

dont worry about anything right now, youre just starting

[azure isle]

if youre 0-50 just press recommended button

[vast oriole]

i just wrote it

im getting ignored

[untold gulch]

Yes but look at your first move the one selected in your SS. You have Normal Paint: Ink Well selected and you have it at level 10

[rose jewel]

you can also, as i just said, move them around freely, its not a permanent choice

[vast oriole]

;__;

[untold gulch]

How does it show the Carp King unlocked for that ability

Shouldn't you be 38 levels short?

[vast oriole]

thats not how it works

[rose jewel]

at lv4, 7 and 10 you can add a row of tripod

[untold gulch]

YEAH I KNOW THATS NOW HOW IT WORKS LOL

I'm trying to figure out how it DOES work

[vast oriole]

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/skill-tree-system-guide

[rose jewel]

the "max" for tripod unlocking is just 10, anything above (14 max) is just for more dmg

the points go up each time you level a skill

well, the points needed

etc

thats why i said to focus on one, up to lv10 first, so you can nuke bosses

[untold gulch]

So the skill level is not linear with the points spent

It has been so far because I'm like level nothing.

[rose jewel]

you later need 8 then 12 skill points for a lv up

but each skill has its level and requirement

[untold gulch]

Okay. That feels slightly more complicated than it needs to be but who am I to judge

[rose jewel]

nah just focus on one

its easy once you like, do it yourself

[untold gulch]

But I have been getting each to 4 and getting my first orb

[rose jewel]

it feels weird coz youre new

[rose wren]

could go through tutorial to learn the basics, if u wish

[rose jewel]

yeah you can do that, as long as you kill stuff fast

[untold gulch]

I went through the prologue thank you.

[rose jewel]

but some tripods later help you a lot sometimes

[vast oriole]

unlucky that maxroll doesnt have the progression leveling guide for classes anmore

it was nice

[untold gulch]

I could easily just play blindly and figure it out as I go but thats not really my style

[rose wren]

its more than prologue

[rose jewel]

like dealing a lot more damage to trash monsters or increasing the AoE, lowering cooldown etc

[azure isle]

recommended button does that cuz early game enemies die if you stare at their general direction

[rose jewel]

what you can do is

[untold gulch]

I'm not struggling with this story mode content

[rose jewel]

check the "Chaos Dungeon" skill recommendation on lost ark nexus for your class and going for what may be better for trash clearing

thats mostly for your wife

coz a support going supporting skills will be rough

instead just go full ungabunga and she will kill stuff much faster

supports in the farming dungeon have most of the time faster times than a dps

[untold gulch]

Okay that feels like a solid takeaway. Thanks gang and a special thanks to you Sig.

[rose jewel]

i say farming but its once a day

[untold gulch]

/salute

Time to play more mmo

[rose jewel]

check out lostark.nexus for class builds

check chaos dungeon for mobing skills and tripods

but the builds are mostly aimed for endgame

so you will see a lot of weird stuff that you will not have

[untold gulch]

Yeah my build is surge meta so I'll be just fine

[rose jewel]

so chaos dungeon will suffice for now

[rose wren]

if no1 around to post the class build website #1113635777004445768 has

[rose jewel]

surge is anything but meta

[azure isle]

idk ur class but bard page has skill codes your partner can use every time she hits an ilvl threshold

[vast oriole]

oh no, a bard and a db

gl

[untold gulch]

For Assasin its meta

[azure isle]

its not

[vast oriole]

its not

[rose jewel]

its actually Remaining Energy

[untold gulch]

ugh

[vast oriole]

surge is dogpoop right now

[untold gulch]

Okay fine

[vast oriole]

remaining energy is good

[rose jewel]

but

[untold gulch]

Fine

[vast oriole]

but again, you need to be good

[rose jewel]

at your level you dont even have the ability to pick the surge stuff

so dont worry

[vast oriole]

last time a new player was playing db, he crashed out and quit after 2 weeks

[rose jewel]

just enjoy the journey

[untold gulch]

Yeah I literally dont have anything.

[rose jewel]

going commando eh?

[untold gulch]

But my char haf ngl

:P

L8r

[rose jewel]

have fun

[azure isle]

i wonder how that went

[tender flicker]

ngl you guys picked some of the harder classes to start with

[rose jewel]

yeah he like, couldnt beat valtan for a week

[vast oriole]

he was trying to kill valtan solo for 2 weeks

[azure isle]

DAMN

[rose jewel]

when he finally did he went for vykas, he just threw the towel

[rose wren]

o i missed that person

[vast oriole]

thats what it does when you follow tierlists

[azure isle]

was surge SSSSS tier

[rose jewel]

we even gave him free motivational speeches, teraphy and all that shit

[azure isle]

[rose jewel]

he just left, defeated

[vast oriole]

he was playing re and yes

[azure isle]

i dont understand people that decide their fates based on dogshit takes presented in tierlists

[vast oriole]

but it was only ssssss tier if you could play it

[rose wren]

every mmorpg ive played, ive never used tier

[rose jewel]

thats why you suck

[azure isle]

only time i can remember where surge was miles better than RE was vykas release and even then you still had to have 6 fingers on each hand

[tender flicker]

Next month we'll get more power passes and expresses, you guys can feel free to try out other classes at that point if you want. This game tends to be a bit of a step up in difficulty compared to some others games due to the lack of tanks/aggro control in raids and how bosses just run around.

[vast oriole]

SURGE WAS BETTER THAN RE TILL T4 CAME OUT

oups

[edgy valley]

Yup

[rose wren]

chunky paw hit caps? lol

[rose jewel]

balances came, surge was suddenly not meta anymore and people crashed out, a lot left

[azure isle]

toxic db mains

[rose jewel]

and i laughed, a lot

[azure isle]

thats like leaving a discord server on april fools because owner pinged everyone

[bold geyser]

or shutting down a discord for a week because your class got nerfed 😬

[rose wren]

thats such a weird area people massively freakout when owner pings everyone, u join to get notified lol

[sacred zinc]

any way of getting high seas coins fast

like 1500

[rose wren]

?sailingcoins

[buoyant dock]

How to obtain Sailing Coins

• Adventure Island rewards.
• Sailing Co-op.
• 300 can be purchased daily from Merchant Odelia for 900 Adventure Seals in your stronghold market.
• Chest of 3,000 from Yornujan Island (One time purchase).
• Chest of 10,000 for 7 Nukmans Illusion Stone collected (One time reward).

[sacred zinc]

thankx

[livid fossil]

Some people just not good

[bold geyser]

some people pure evil

[rose jewel]

some people

[azure isle]

some

[indigo breach]

some people are phine

[cunning haven]

Hello does trixion show my cp somewhere?

Id like to know how much cp is gained from changes to my engravings

[balmy plank]

Your profile

[cunning haven]

Or gems

[cunning haven]

Ohhhhhhhh woww i did not know this!!! Omg...

Thank you!! This is so useful

[cunning haven]

Does weapon quality transfer over to serca gear?

[weary oyster]

no update mt?

no game file update?

[strange viper]

just a server mt, no updates

[weary oyster]

[tulip falcon]

Heyoo guys! ^^ i'm kinda new here, anyone know how can i get trusted title on account ?

[spring spruce]

?trusted

[buoyant dock]

Amazon changed how trusted status is obtained, the old way is "You need steam trusted / non limited and enabling 2fa on steam guard app", it's now an in-house system not reliant on steam. All the info they have given us on how to get it is "Play the game and you get it eventually".
Amazon Games Trusted Info

[tulip falcon]

yes

to be able to collect the rewards from the time i spend on the game

[spring spruce]

its right there, you get it eventually, just lucky

[faint roost]

Cant log in rn, whats the book prices looking like in na?

[wide flume]

You can check market prices here:

https://loa-buddy.pages.dev/market

[faint cedar]

They haven’t changed much

[jovial bobcat]

is there a way of getting accessories early in the mq? im at punika rn and the accessories i have are still the ones from north vern

[azure isle]

punika msq gives you accessories

[jovial bobcat]

thank you

[fervent mauve]

what's minimum dps for serca g2 normal

[vast oriole]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19r5A56C8USONYF3AHfCZ8TLgrHuzenEuYH9I21OpTQo/edit?gid=1158253087#gid=1158253087

[fervent mauve]

thank you long time

[coral perch]

what stone is bis for dps valk?

[tender flicker]

Try searching the valk channel. That question comes up in pretty much every class channel. Choose the role at the top of the channels list to see class channels.

[azure isle]

does LOA still have restricted Royal Crystal purchases?

or in other words how many times can I purchase 12k RCs in one day/week, if there is a restriction

[rose jewel]

The 3-day restrictions I think are lessened the better your account is in terms of trusted, as of the limit of purchases I don't think or at least I haven't heard they changed it, so it's like 5k a day or something? Or was it less

Maybe 1.5k idr (dollaroos)

[azure isle]

5k in irl money?

in what time span

[rose jewel]

A day

I'm no whale so I can't really verify anything, it's just what I heard years ago

[azure isle]

that implies there is no "3 purchases per day" hmm

[rose jewel]

No, it's just a specific amount of cash, or should be

[azure isle]

i see

bow

[rose jewel]

Now top up 5k on my account to test it ty

[azure isle]

https://tenor.com/view/denia-denia-wuwa-wuwa-wuthering-waves-bleh-gif-7194130459021845157

[rose jewel]

Well I tried

[livid fossil]

For science you should give me 5k to test it out

Must verify

Chaos stones(have purple quality) destruction stones or shards

[bold geyser]

probably destro unless you're flush

chaos is good but always a longshot 😄

[faint cedar]

There is a daily spending cap

That is all

I don’t know what it is, I just know that there is a daily one

My assumption is that if you’re locked out for any longer than a day your accounts probably getting reviewed for fraud or something lol

[tall wolf]

hi, does anybody remember the video of a mokoko berserker with a watermelon weapon getting compared with slayer?

i cant find it.

[bold geyser]

like compared playstyle between the two classes, or by hotness

[tall wolf]

playstyle

[bold geyser]

damn

[tall wolf]

i mean by hotness the mokoko wins 100%

it was when slayer was released and im sure the titel was korean.

[bold geyser]

was the audio?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62-KCylrhx4 here's my best guess ima get lunch rq 😄

[tall wolf]

maschine

https://tenor.com/view/mwaa-cat-kitty-muac-mwac-gif-1791956218851101712

[lucid axle]

is legendary pet abililites exclusive to legendary pets or can epic pets get them too

[vast oriole]

first

[lucid axle]

ah so thats why i havent seen them yet

ty

[bold geyser]

i didn't get any paradise keys? came in the mail while i was in crucible

[tender flicker]

sometimes it takes like 15-20seconds after logging in

[bold geyser]

was like 10 mins 😄

[worthy oxide]

if I join back with my friends in next power pass how long will it take us to unlock all raids on normal mode?

[bold geyser]

a month?

less if you have mats and gold saved

[worthy oxide]

I had 20k gold but I don't think that will help

[rose wren]

hardly

[worthy oxide]

[bold geyser]

it will, the same way $20 helps pay the rent 🙂

[rose wren]

u can start gathering until event to hone

[candid lake]

did our pp end already?

[worthy oxide]

is there and active event now? I don't want to start all over

[vast oriole]

no

finished last week

[candid lake]

daamn

[worthy oxide]

I quit around clown release so basically I'm starting all over right?

[bold geyser]

you can do story to catch up w/o needing to hone up til 1580

[worthy oxide]

how long will that take

[bold geyser]

the express will (assumedly) be 1640-?? and run through 1700+, the highest NM right now is 1710

[bold geyser]

from south vern? day or two if you play a lot. from scratch a lot longer

[worthy oxide]

that's a lot i think it is better to wait till next month and come back

[bold geyser]

up to you 🙂

[worthy oxide]

one of our friends is busy with a new baby and don't have much time

is it true that normal mode raids are easy now?

[bold geyser]

i feel like they're easier than normal modes were for older raids

but as always ymmv 😄

[rose wren]

normal difficulty is always simpler

[worthy oxide]

i quit in late 2022

[lavish mortar]

Easier than say, clown yes

But easier does not necessarily mean they're easy

[worthy oxide]

tnks folks

[candid lake]

^^

i feel like the dps checks are like

low atm compared to before except serca

[lavish mortar]

Even serca (normal) isn't that high with like 14x3 grid

[vast oriole]

I would suggest just doing the arkesia tour

Its like express horizontal

[candid lake]

*laughs in 300mil dps with just 1 10 point core *

[rose jewel]

300mil total raid dmg

[candid lake]

😠

🖕

back to my paper

[worthy oxide]

okay I'll see what the other guys say thank you

[bold geyser]

better to use specials on ilvl once my weapon is 19?

[rose jewel]

Last place on the group haha

[lavish mortar]

Can check max roll for mat values no?

[bold geyser]

weapon is better value but not very many taps 😄

just wondering how much value in pure ilvl rn is all

wanna get +19 everything right?

[lavish mortar]

Youre 1740 no? Ilvl meaningless unless you want to do nightmare church raid, or hm extreme aegir (both at 1750)

[bold geyser]

17....41.66 now

getting there

i wanna do hm kaz 👉 👈

[vast oriole]

then do it

[lavish mortar]

Just need a group that doesn't implode
Youre more than ready for it yourself I think

[bold geyser]

yaya i know

[vast oriole]

people are happy when they get a 3k cp support lol in kaz

[lavish mortar]

People are unhappy with deadge supp tho
Which i think is his worry

[vast oriole]

just use ce

[bold geyser]

people were unhappy with me alive even with mvp

i'd like to figure out why my nums are low

[vast oriole]

iuse it because theres always one fucker that will kill me xD

[vast oriole]

well

time to install the meter

[lavish mortar]

Id have to play with you to find out
Unless you have 3rd party meter

[bold geyser]

ughhhhh

lags my shit but ill try one

[lavish mortar]

(One fucker named darek)

[vast oriole]

never did

[vast oriole]

how does it lag your pc??

it doesnt lag mine or darek's pc

and we have old ass pc

[bold geyser]

operator issues

likely unrelated

[vast oriole]

did you test the newer one

or the older one

[bold geyser]

didn't know there was a newwer one

new version, or different thing altogether

[vast oriole]

new meter

well it snot new

but

if you have logs in the game

can check it i guess

[bold geyser]

will look into it

[vast oriole]

im a bit rusty on bard but im not completely lost

[lavish mortar]

Can send some ingame meter logs for now yeah

And work from that at least

[vast oriole]

would be interesting just to see in trixion if the rotation is fucked or not

or its just on bosses that moves

[lavish mortar]

Unfortunately hard to know why something like identity is low without seeing your skill cpms

[vast oriole]

also if hitmasters are being dumb and away from your circle

[bold geyser]

yeah of course

[vast oriole]

`like whats low

ap brand

identity

[bold geyser]

which are the analyzer fields to use as a baseline

[bold geyser]

brand eff, attack bonus eff?

[vast oriole]

damage bonus efficiency 1 is z
damage bonus efficiency 2 is T

[bold geyser]

will try a run with those then 🙂

[lavish mortar]

It should have at least a couple older logs saved i think?

Idk how often it clears them out

[vast oriole]

go do a guardian

[bold geyser]

i'm sure i do but only in-game meter

[vast oriole]

then link

[bold geyser]

uhhhh

[vast oriole]

FASTER

jk

[bold geyser]

heres drex a few ago 🙂

[vast oriole]

i mean

its not that bad

[bold geyser]

[vast oriole]

you have meter neck or no?

you play womwom?

[bold geyser]

only mid

and no

[vast oriole]

its more than enough

well

im guessing thats why your z is meh

[bold geyser]

damn

i mean i can change things up

[vast oriole]

for info, thats my bard in guardians

and i have lvl 6 gems

[lavish mortar]

Basically have to go womwom for fat buffs

[bold geyser]

but i imagine it comes at the cost of something else

[lavish mortar]

You lose shieldinf

[vast oriole]

serca hm

[lavish mortar]

But in guards who cares

[vast oriole]

(yes my brand is criminal)

[bold geyser]

the nums are what?

[vast oriole]

ap brand z t

[lavish mortar]

Ap brand z t

[vast oriole]

in order

[bold geyser]

k

may as well make those my 4 tracked then

wait i cant nooooo

[vast oriole]

yes and do same order as external meter

you can

you can rearrange

[bold geyser]

assist damage seems locked?

[vast oriole]

yea

doesnt matter that number

[bold geyser]

if its locked i can only have 3 others 😄

[vast oriole]

t is whatever

[lavish mortar]

T is kinda random if its high, unless youre in comms with a burst class, and save it for them

[vast oriole]

https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Arna if youre curious about my absolute criminal bard

[candid lake]

AHH

IM BLINDED

[lavish mortar]

Ive seen worse

[bold geyser]

and if some rando is complaining about some number of uptime it's the ht/sv uptime i assume?

[vast oriole]

can be anything

ap brand or z

[bold geyser]

which was...shy of 90 in that pic?

[lavish mortar]

Usually yeah? But not always

[vast oriole]

are you sure

[bold geyser]

going back to solo raids

[lavish mortar]

Yeah some people get if below 95

[vast oriole]

just install meter...

[lavish mortar]

Yes

[vast oriole]

meter ingame is dogshit to improve

[bold geyser]

alright alright

[vast oriole]

ah my accs are fucked

oh well

[lavish mortar]

Yes but you see it as a problem so youre better than alt roster bitches with negative investment

[bold geyser]

okay but i'm basically perma weaving ht/sv so i couldn't tell you how im missing 10% until i get meter running again 🙂

[vast oriole]

[vast oriole]

na i meant my accs were mny dps ones xDD

[lavish mortar]

Probably boss running away from ur SV
Make sure you HT off CD, with as high a gem as you can manage

[vast oriole]

my accs on this rat are better than a lot of people

[lavish mortar]

Yep...

[vast oriole]

well its not a problem since i dont play her

i do guardians

and thats about it

[vast oriole]

bard has the chance that even if boss runs away, ht has a very low cd

you can use ht way before sv stops

can close the gap

you have lvl 8 right? and full swift?

[lavish mortar]

I think HT alone can push 80-85% uptime with good gems (8+)

[vast oriole]

yes

[lavish mortar]

Broken ass class

[bold geyser]

probably just being too cute w/ sv

would loooove more customization on my ui

[vast oriole]

you can almost ignore sv as a full swift bard

since mana is from ht

cant do that on artist XD

i play some spec but yeah

[bold geyser]

(there isn't a way to move ui elements around, is there?)

[vast oriole]

no

[bold geyser]

so dumb

i would do 40% better if i could move my buff tracker

[vast oriole]

youc an always make them larger

and did you play with the priority

[bold geyser]

once upon a time

i'll look at it was just hoping fo ra miracle

[vast oriole]

use that

and this

should help

dont copy the rest, i dont play dps

[bold geyser]

those were set, at least 😄

and buffs are already as big as they can get, which is to say, itty bitty

messed with the other buff prios tho

i miss weakauras in wow i literally wrote over 100 of them my UI was so pretty

the things i could do if loa gave me just a little freedom 🥲

[sacred zinc]

I finished all the lvls for the Arkesia thing, but i do not see all the loot i was supposed to get, it always made me finish each lvl in my stronghold

[rose wren]

mail?

[sacred zinc]

nothin

[rose wren]

whats in ur chat windows? should show what happen

[vast oriole]

stupid question

did you claim it on the interface

[sacred zinc]

i claimed it in the Arkesia window the event was in

also, i claimed it the past few days, and didnt look into it thinkin it was in my mail and i would sort thru it another day

seeing as it always made me go to my stronghold, is there somethin in there that would have it

[vast oriole]

shouldnt be

it shouldve went to your inventory

or universal storage

[rose wren]

what r u missing?

[sacred zinc]

seemingly everything, i know lvl 4 gave gold ruins and i dont see those anywhere, like i had empty spots in my inven, and nothing got filled

[rose jewel]

screenshots, is what hes missing

[sacred zinc]

i dunno even what i would take a screenshot of at this point

[bold geyser]

and they dont already exist in your skills menu? codex?

[sacred zinc]

other than showing the arkesia event is no longer present in my UI

[rose wren]

mostly likely auto redeem on runes, press k

[sacred zinc]

i dont think ive ever had a gold ruin, and i dont have any equipped on my skills

purple is the highest ive had

[rose jewel]

gold what

[sacred zinc]

oh wait

[bold geyser]

dont have a list of what tour gives

[sacred zinc]

they are there

[bold geyser]

😮

[sacred zinc]

so they skipped my inven.........

[lavish mortar]

Runes, I think

[sacred zinc]

ya runes

[rose wren]

some things do

[sacred zinc]

i have runes i havent done anything with in my storage still

[bold geyser]

consume them, no reason not to 🙂

[rose jewel]

they wouldnt be able to give everything in a single go, you dont have that much inv space, so some stuff has to be auto used

is my guess idk its been forever since i did it

[rose wren]

usually all the overflow goes to mail, seems they updated it somewhere

[sacred zinc]

for artillerist, is there a particular card set i should be going for, i have all of light of salvation that ive been using, i have others but dont ever use them

[bold geyser]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSWomwEyQkLe53mTsULQLDWyY5vjDa5PJFeRNSQaWRrynPG50bKvO8EFACQUo-2aUU1ilJyjSu4P4Ea/pubhtml

[sacred zinc]

but dont have it fully lvld up

[faint cedar]

The important card sets aren’t per class it’s per bonus

[rose jewel]

just use los forever

[faint cedar]

Use LOS forever

[sacred zinc]

k thanx

[faint cedar]

The real answer is that there’s a few late game dps card sets to go for based on the boss you’re fighting, but as a returning player there’s no reason to worry about them, so use LOS for everything until you’re more experienced with the game

[rose jewel]

not even experienced, until you actually have the sets

returnees aint gonna have any

[bold geyser]

maybe they'll be generous with an upcoming express 🙂

[vast oriole]

prob not

took them years to give los/lwc30 for free

[torpid marsh]

gold or fusion?

[vast oriole]

what ilvl

[torpid marsh]

1754

fusions?

[vast oriole]

yeah

[torpid marsh]

ty

[bold geyser]

basically a wash unless you need fusions badly

1730 wealth is really good

[sacred zinc]

i remember seeing island souls in the arkesia event, like a lot of them, i did all 4 lvls, went to lonely island and touched the statue, had only 2 souls in my inven, and checked the rewards, im now at 48 and it gave me only one reward meaning less than ten were submitted, i suppose there could have been duplicates, but it says 48 is my total, does that seem like the right amount after completing the arkesia event?

[rose wren]

yep

[sacred zinc]

that sucks, i def had one island soul before doing that event so i think i actually only got one more that I didnt have

*still to submit

[rose wren]

yea and its quite easy to get dups

[vapid bluff]

is it still worth buying boxes for act 4 and final act if the goal is only for a chance at ancient core?

[bold geyser]

are you beyond using any of the materials at all?

[vapid bluff]

yes ;x

[vast oriole]

i personally dont buy them

well i buy kaz hm and serca hm boxes but more for the new mats (on main only)

[vapid bluff]

ahh i yea i better stop buying act4 boxes then

[errant pendant]

how accurate is the cp system when it comes to bracelets

[vast oriole]

weapon power line is inflated

rest are fine

[errant pendant]

no i meant the bracelet that gives more cp is better? 😅

[vast oriole]

depends your class

theres a dps calculator pinned in the class channels

can always ask them which bracelet is better also

[sonic holly]

does it matter if its willpower 8/9/10 to get an astrogem with boss dmg?

[vast oriole]

9 and 10 can have boss dmg

[sonic holly]

so they kinda the best to cut

[vast oriole]

yes

[sonic holly]

if ur goal is to optimize boss dmg

[bold geyser]

if you can fit em

[lavish mortar]

You likely will need 8s to get 17p bonuses

[sonic holly]

this is ridiculous

just dumped 150k in astrogem cutting

not even a 3/4

let alone a 3/5

[faint cedar]

[lavish mortar]

Pretty avg

[sonic holly]

what's the best tech for fusing already cut astrogems?

[bold geyser]

weapon is the only chaos star worth a damn for supp right?

[sonic holly]

go with 3 legendaries, or 2 legendaries 1 relic?

[lavish mortar]

Uuhhh iirc yes

[gray verge]

Yes

[bold geyser]

full relic now, but only a 62.5 score / 100 🥲

[lavish mortar]

Welcome to hell

[bold geyser]

nothin new there

i'm not actually sure how much of a gap that is

ballpark 500cp?

[lavish mortar]

At most probably yeah

[neat estuary]

that's not too bad is it? i'm only at 74 on main, and cba doing anything more than fishing on double good side blues/purples anymore

slows down a lot once a 3/5 with 1 side isn't an upgrade anymore, rip

[bold geyser]

dont even think i'm that far i've got a buncha crappy side nodes equipped rn

but i also haven't cut anything on my main in a minute

tryna get some alts up to "serviceable" so that, at the very least, they can start accumulating grid stuff

rather have them with a buncha uncut gems than liket hey are now with everything cut and nothing activated 🥲

[plain ermine]

Idk if it makes u feel any better i been buying the 43k random purple chest from fisherman and i cut all my astrogem epic only , spent about 1.3m gold, got an increased of 50 cp, very happy though

[plain ermine]

Opps i replied to wrong guy sorry hahaha

[wise juniper]

What's the math behind those advanced honing 30-40 scrolls? Are they worth buying and using on every single attempt? Or just with the pity attempts?

[bold geyser]

calculator angle

[lavish mortar]

Id buy for grace, probably not use otherwise

[bold geyser]

almost certainly worth on grace, depends on current prices for every tap

[tender flicker]

don't think maxroll has the 20-30 and 30-40 scrolls, unless there is another calculator floating around

[bold geyser]

if you set the "show material values" business you can see the value of one, which is basically the same thing

[tender flicker]

maybe I'm blind

[minor briar]

both

u won’t have infinite relics

and 12+ points on leg isn’t too low chance either for 3x leg fuse (17%)

[bold geyser]

not blind, looks like it works for regular honing, not AH, ignore me

i'll try and calculate it for next time but i'm headed to bed

should be able to come up with a rule of thumb or so

[minor briar]

u would check when blue breaths become optimal and then multiply that by the amount u use (24x?) roughly to see when scrolls r worth (they give diff boost rates) but it’s close enough

but also if ur using mostly bound mats, it’s almost never worth

cuz ur mostly just spending gold and not buying mats

[sonic holly]

so ive just ran the calculations and the answer differs depending on ur situation.

1. Do you want to ah and lack abidos? then yes because if you were to buy abidos you would spend more.

2. Do you have a big stock of abidos and dont care about saving resources? then no.

for short, following max rolls average results, doing 10 lvls on all 5 armors you end up doing 262 taps.
with scrolls on every tap the amount of taps you do reduces to 155.

Ive tested this myself and its accurate enough.
if you want i can send you the prompts i use on AI and u edit the market values of things and figure out for yourself

this is a pure example at abidos priced at 160g and scrolls priced at 2700 each (AH 30-40)

For short, I got it done in 142 taps (counted) with a bit above average luck

[wise juniper]

Ok thank you that's extremely helpful.

[sonic holly]

In my case I would've to buy all abidos as I want to force push one of my chars.
So for me, it was ideal to buy scrolls

Message me privately and I can share with you the prompts i used

Also that's only taking into account abidos as gold value.
I left shards, blue stones, leapstones out of the "gold valuation" but the prompt also lets you know how much of those materials you're saving on average.

128,868 Blue Stones, 2,469 Leapstones, and 859,120 Shards - that's what you save for boosting every tap, on top of what's in the imagine.
Keep in mind that im solo scrolling, no juicers (only use juicers when 6 orbs are full)

[wise juniper]

Yeah that makes sense. I have basically all bound shards, blue/read/leap stones so those are non factors.

I'm only considering the cost of abidos+raw gold. So it seems like if you're buying abidos, then it's worth to buy the scrolls for every attempt, but if you're not(say you have enough bound abidos from paradise or something), then it's not worth to buy the scrolls for every attempt.

Correct?

[sonic holly]

Exactly

[wise juniper]

Honestly that's a super good rule of thumb, thanks for looking into it.

[sonic holly]

Funny enough I looked into this just today cause I wanted a char to 1730 so they could start farming upper t4 mats asap 😄

Here are the numbers for when you have enough abidos for fully scrolling, but lack abidos to do it without scrolling

Keep in mind that these are averages in accordance to maxroll. If you get spammed chisel its gonna cost more 😄

[sonic holly]

we can cry together. Are you doing gem optimization? Or just trying to activate stuff.
In the end of my astrogem cutting session I managed to get 17/17/14 on my chaos cores for a grand total of 350k (just cutting values)
I guess that wasnt too bad

[sonic holly]

how do you check ark grid score?

[plain ermine]

Gem optimize yes, i was using stability for everything, now im slowly moving to whatevers better bd / ad

[sonic holly]

welp i was going to optimize

had already like 20 solidities ready

but im mainswapping so screw that

[bold geyser]

from https://airplaner.github.io/lostark-arkgrid-gem-locator-v2/ , they simply divided my +% by my max possible%, so i just did the same the other way. removing all astros loses me a little over 800 cp, so i'm ballparking bis astros as 1300 (though ancient cores could raise that)

there may be a more rigorous way but im too tired to deal with it rn i'll try tomorrow 🙂

[gusty solar]

how much difference in cp from 7 lvl gems to 8 lvl gems ?

[faint cedar]

Like 20?

Per gem

[tender flicker]

should be able to check in trixion

[gusty solar]

Thanks 🙂

[supple shoal]

should i buy cursed doll or hitmaster books i got mostly hm classes (2xgs arcana artillerist Sh) but i use cd on them could use relic hm tho

its 40k vs 62k for cd

also i wanna make one back attack class (slayer) but not like it matters that much

[minor briar]

buy the cheaper one

[supple shoal]

okay so hitmaster it is

i think ill get it full 20/20

and leave grude kbw be for now

[minor briar]

not sure which builds ur playing but also mpe could be cheap alternative

[supple shoal]

MI too becouse i will most likely swap to PM in future for gs

[supple shoal]

i play tth as of now

[minor briar]

ah, then u cant

[sterile lance]

how much cp is a "good" bracelet?

[strange viper]

400

[minor grail]

can i know what cp the best bracelet gives?

[minor briar]

it scales with ur gear so

[minor briar]

4 liner+

[hearty glen]

I have a friend, 2 even without nitro that still have this decoration

[celest grove]

yeah i do too, i feel like it should be nitro only but not sure what happened

[minor briar]

maybe it makes it perm if u had nitro when it was about to expire and usable even after u lose nitro

[marsh grove]

It'll cost 6-7m to complete my books, but I checked in trixion and even if I do that's only 9% more CP

would it not be better to just hone more alts to 1730?

6-7m for 9% cp seems kind of nuts

even though prices are the lowest they've ever been

[faint cedar]

The answer is that it depends

[minor briar]

will those alts get accepted w/o books?

[faint cedar]

Like are your alts rats? Will you be able to do all of the 1730 content even if you push them there? Books effect the whole roster so while yeah if you’re starting from nothing it’s a hefty cost, but it’s a one time buy

[minor igloo]

There's a reason players try to hit books that cover most of their classes.

[minor briar]

sounds like he doesnt have any/not a lot of books tbh

tho alts to 1730 is pricey

[faint cedar]

He’s looking at maxing 2-3 of the big books plus some smaller ones by the sound of it

That’s about the quote I had for adren kbw grudge hm and cd

With a little progress done already

[marsh grove]

yes

[marsh grove]

I wanna start getting 1730 keys and hourglass mostly

• better embers

[faint cedar]

Embers hardly change

Not enough to justify the gold you’re gonna spend for that push

[minor briar]

^

[marsh grove]

gold needs to go somewhere

whether it be books / gems / honing

[minor briar]

books then

doubt theyll go much lower than they r now

[faint cedar]

I’d personally spend on books now while they’re cheap, otherwise you pay twice as much once you get to them

[marsh grove]

I mean realistically I'll just

not have them finished*

when new books hit

[faint cedar]

Just go to 15

[minor briar]

might as well not play the game then..

why do ppl think like that..

[marsh grove]

cause I can feel it in my bones

new gems or books this year

[minor briar]

just hoard gold til 1 month before eos and buy everything when prices drop 99%

[faint cedar]

You do remember

That you have to have current books maxed to go to next tier right

If you’re contemplating pushing ALTS to 1730 you’re at a point where you should sacrificing some gold for progression for book upgrades during this event

[gray verge]

if anything there'll be ancient books tied to all the horizontal activies in new ocean map

like how the older oceans used to give book sacks

[errant pendant]

Why go to 15 and not finish?

[vast oriole]

Because you can get books from hell

[faint cedar]

^

If you get untradable hell books for things you already maxed it feels like wasted gold

And at 15 you’ve gotten most of the power out of your engravings

Or you can buy to 15 and hold out for selectors to finish the expensive ones

[pure basin]

going from AH 30-40, is buying the lvl4 scrolls always worth buying

to use on grace

[faint cedar]

Believe so

If you have the gold to do so, you should fill juice every tap on grace

I want to say that it’s more cost effective to scroll every tap now in terms of mat saving and etc since scrolls are more widely available but I haven’t done the math

Bare minimum full juice the grace

[pure basin]

i have more than enough in terms of reds/blues/leaps/shards i guess its moreso the raw gold cost

[faint cedar]

Ultimately it’s just rng on what your grace hits tbh

Is a scroll as much as a tap?

[pure basin]

sorry wdym by grace its?

[faint cedar]

6 bubbles

[pure basin]

armor scrolls: 2.6
armor tap: 2.4
weap scrolls 1.9
weap tap: 4k

0, they're all at 30

[faint cedar]

So with very base level math, you would need to hit a great success x2 with the scroll tap for you to save money on an armor piece

On just a normal tap

Otherwise you lose out 200 gold. If you hit a normal success, you’re -2.6k

Weapon if it goes great success on scroll hit you’re +2.1k, and giga profiting from great success x2

[pure basin]

i see thanks

[faint cedar]

At least I think that’s how the math is working, I’m on my first coffee

[pure basin]

that makes sense from what i can see

[faint cedar]

I think to save the most gold here you raw tap armor til grace and juice it fully. Weapon you can probably buy scrolls every tap since the cost is so low compared to the payoff

(If you’re buying every scroll)

[pure basin]

yea mostly buying all the scrolls, have a few but no where the amount i need

[faint cedar]

Maybe just log gold spent vs outcome on the armor pieces for a little bit

See if buying the scrolls is netting you cheaper progress

Could do one cycle of 6 with books, and one cycle without

[viral bronze]

what is the difference for looking for raid and looking for static?

[vast oriole]

raid can be once

static is

well

static

every week

[viral bronze]

okay

thanks

[jovial bobcat]

is it worth doing this quest or should i just do the other quests normally? will i miss anything?

[rose jewel]

Is that the Arkesia tour or something

Wait, uhh

[dim pulsar]

well uh its REQUIRED quests to start elgacia

[rose jewel]

That's Elgacia, it's a main story you have to do to keep going

Not like you have a saying if you wanna keep progressing

Sometimes it kind of scares you by adding all that nonsense but those are quests you should have already done in the first place

Unless they changed it and it let's you skip all those but idr that being the case

Coz I remember a lot of people having troubles with tabula quest (I never had any issues but people allegedly bricked it)

Tldr just go ahead

[bold geyser]

looks like it skips those old ones instead of requiring them

thats new 😄

[rose jewel]

Getting to Elgacia was always really convoluted, even more so after you had to do everything in one go instead of having some time to explore and whatnot before Elgacia even arrived

They may miss some quests but if it's true that tabula is still causing issues he's better off not bricking his msq

[pure basin]

is it worth converting serca mats to the first 2 options? if the craft amount < the sell amount for the normal books

[dim pulsar]

u want to get Super LUcky roll to get x2 books (2x the artisan) thats the real deal of gold, thats up to u

[livid fossil]

Do I risk again i died once on frost was single digit jump so i jumped again and still in single digit

[bold geyser]

i do, it's a 50/50 🙂

but sometimes its just not meant to be

[rose jewel]

Then you die and complain you got nothing

It's always the same

Literally a question of "what do you want to do"

[bold geyser]

i just dont ever settle for single digits

sometimes i die

[livid fossil]

Which I did die lol

?cards

?cards

?CARDS

?advhoning

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

Bot dead

[vast oriole]

yes dyno is in maintenance

[livid fossil]

Dang

[rose wren]

also it got uglier, uses ai art

[livid fossil]

Wrong channel

[bold geyser]

when the robot uprising happens i wont have any sympathy for you ai haters

[livid fossil]

lol

[bold geyser]

i was tryna figure out how to make an updated card graphic anyway maybe i should just get on that 😛

(what was the question)

[livid fossil]

Ah

[elder anchor]

!honing

hmmm

[livid fossil]

🤖 in maintenance

[elder anchor]

whats the honing tech for 1720?

[bold geyser]

tech?

[livid fossil]

?advhoning

[bold geyser]

like the adv honing order?

1720 is +18 and +40

[faint cedar]

You should be free tapping armors from paradise and doing ADV honing if you’re trying to get there

[elder anchor]

yeh Im doing that for alts

wasn't sure if to do my 30->40 adv or raw tap

[vast oriole]

#lost-ark-help message

[river sun]

hi all any mokkoko or vets know if trusted status is bugged or how long that takes

[dim pulsar]

?trusted

[bold geyser]

dont have the bot working for the copypasta

[dim pulsar]

[bold geyser]

there isn't a known way to accelerate it you just gotta play

[rose wren]

just play, no eta ever

[dim pulsar]

"wait, play u get it" and to ask 2nd part of it, WE DONT KNOW how much time

[azure isle]

Amazon changed how trusted status is obtained, the old way is "You need steam trusted / non limited and enabling 2fa on steam guard app", it's now an in-house system not reliant on steam. All the info they have given us on how to get it is "Play the game and you get it eventually".
Amazon Games Trusted Info

[dim pulsar]

we got the bot

[bold geyser]

always knew zyla was a bot

[azure isle]

You hurt my feelings

[bold geyser]

nice try bots dont have feelings

https://tenor.com/view/rage-uncle-grandpa-enraged-robot-demolition-gif-27402314

[azure isle]

[river sun]

ok thanks everbody my account is a month old no market sucks man.

[bold geyser]

dont be sad i wish i could be a bot

[vast oriole]

yeah, trusted system sucks ass

sadly cant do much about it

[bold geyser]

my flesh vessel is nothing but trouble

[vast oriole]

continue playing normally

youll get it at some point

[river sun]

ill keep grinding up my b skills im the meantime

[faint cedar]

Zylabot

Botphine

I like the first

[livid fossil]

lol

Where do I find name change tick

In the F4?

[bold geyser]

welp to answer my earlier question, 100 orbs is really not meaningful

[livid fossil]

PogU

[rich verge]

150 extra coinos a week

u can finish sooner

[bold geyser]

me getting any orbs at all is a fluke this is not a readily repeatable process 😄

[rose jewel]

idgaf about them, i buff so the dps can kill faster

if i end up with orbs ok, if i dont then whatever

[bold geyser]

how longs the event go for? the amount of orbs coins you need is pretty small

[rose wren]

surely u know where to look

[bold geyser]

yeah i'll check when i get back 😄

[lavish mortar]

Till mid july

8 weeks? Total

[faint cedar]

54 days or some shit

[gray verge]

tl;dr all of Southern Hemisphere winter

[hot dock]

can u avoid jumprope in a4 g1 with skills

[rose wren]

also ask#raid-discussions

[hot dock]

done ty

[lavish mortar]

Inconsistent but sometimes

[hot dock]

wat skills work?

[lavish mortar]

Movement skills in my experience
Faster the better

[paper walrus]

better to just ask for the classes you play if you have any skills that work

sorc blink works, gl jump probably works, bard has no movement, dish jump works

[rose wren]

drizzle float/glide

[bold geyser]

i mean you should be picking up the flowers anyway, and the flowers give you extra spacebars

[lavish mortar]

But my dps window

And other greeders stealing my flowers

[pale wasp]

is there a downside to just keep honing the old gear?

[gray verge]

more expensive

[pale wasp]

what about special honing

is it the same or less mats?

[gray verge]

I mean special honing is rng anyhow.
If you have 1000s I’d save to convert up to new mats.
If you have just a few I’d tap to see if you get lucky

Since Tremor honing has higher base %

1% chance on +22
but 10-15% chance on new pieces

[pale wasp]

didnt get lucky 🙁

[marsh grove]

new pieces arent 10-15 ? they start at 5

honing to 12 and 13 were 5% and to 14 and 15 were 4% I think

[vast oriole]

nvm you meant honing chance

5% yes

[bold geyser]

once you hit 20 it is always better to transfer to serca gear before using specials UNLESS you are already at +24

[azure isle]

thats me

[bold geyser]

then good luck 🤞

[azure isle]

i think im at 9.40% so far

[bold geyser]

duno if its more worth for regular honing 😄

(probably)

[azure isle]

i dont wanna transfer from 24

feels halfassed

[bold geyser]

i wont tell nobody

but, godspeed

[azure isle]

hey if i manage

i'll have purpies

[mellow mauve]

if you pity

[azure isle]

i would never

[paper walrus]

[bold geyser]

uhhh lets see

[paper walrus]

pity please

[bold geyser]

prices are approximately right i'm not online to update

[azure isle]

but my purpy

[bold geyser]

looks as if it's similar either way, costs more raw gold to do it now, but you make up for it in saved T4.5 reds

technically cheaper to do it now

by a bit

worse if you have a shitton of bound t4.5 mats

[azure isle]

i dont have access to t4.5

[bold geyser]

then keep on keeping on 😄

[lucid axle]

is there someone responsible for the maxroll upgrade calc in this server?

[azure isle]

205k reds gonna be a problem

[lucid axle]

there still no 19-20 books to adjust there value

[lucid axle]

yeah idk thats if u hit average

i full pitied mine

[bold geyser]

just one-more tap it

[azure isle]

i dont think i ever pitied anything on GK

[lucid axle]

same here i never pitied on my main until i was going for 25

most of the time i gotten pretty close to pity but never actually

[azure isle]

i had a dream where i hit +25 weapon last night

but i dont remember if it was normal or special

[bold geyser]

pitied lots on my bard 😄 just pitied to +14 on my serca helm

[lucid axle]

wait i just realized u swapped to bard

[lucid axle]

werent u a SE main before

or am i just hallucinating

[bold geyser]

and a gl main before that

in my defense, i'm bad at all of them

[lucid axle]

ngl i feel like its harder to be a good support lol

[azure isle]

how bad at bard

[lucid axle]

ive tried support valk and all i could do was focus on uptime and i never payed attention to my party lol

[vast oriole]

it depends

it depends which support

if pug or static

if homework or prog

depends also the raid

but yeah bard is the hardest

[lucid axle]

and yeah espically the hardest supp lol

[azure isle]

i mean

[bold geyser]

[azure isle]

not that i main a support but

if your numbers match a decent pace

who cares about all that

[vast oriole]

well, sometimes people want to improve

even if their numbers are okay

[lucid axle]

yeah play what you enjoy just find it funny how u went from relatively easy dps to the hardest of the 4 supports

at least from a community perspective

[azure isle]

im also gonna swap from gk to bard

just cause bard has music and its cute

[lucid axle]

also whats the difference between the two stats?

[bold geyser]

dont try to make sense of me, even i dont know what i'm doing next

[lucid axle]

its fine to main swap if ur not feeling it and want a change just keep it mind it can get pricey the further you get

[lucid axle]

they both read the same to me which is why im asking

[mellow mauve]

uptime (how much your buffs are up) and contribution (how much your buffs make up your dps dmg)

[vast oriole]

contribution= if your dps are way more geared than you, your numbers will be lower
if youre way more geared, number will go up

[lucid axle]

oh like how much dmg is actually buffed vs general uptime?

[vast oriole]

ye

[lucid axle]

ah

[bold geyser]

this was quite some time ago i just never updated my discord, but good looks

i've always been a lousy arpg player, if i didn't like it so much i woulda quit along time ago. lacking that, i'm trying to improve 🙂

[vast oriole]

did you try to install the meter

or did you try doing more raids

[bold geyser]

no i got distracted

lemme go look now

[lucid axle]

yeah its good to not catch fomo play at ur own pace as long as you are making it into lobbies who cares

honestly like how my alts were 1700 and i only did core related raids so only had to do act 4

[bold geyser]

not fomo, just wasn't clicking with me

[lucid axle]

but now they are all slowly pushing to 1710 so im feeling the fomo of cores

wait why does support get such little CP boost with ark grid

i just set up my supp ark grid full 14 and i got like 50 CP lol

[vast oriole]

it gets a lot with the right lines

well 14 doesnt give much so

[lucid axle]

i thought i would get like at least 100 with 3 at 14 though

[vast oriole]

the important part is at 17 for supp

[lucid axle]

ah that might be why then

[bold geyser]

17 sun and moon gives a lottttt

[lucid axle]

guess im stuck on dps for a while then

[vast oriole]

so an example

my ark grid is normal, didnt optimize lines or whatever

with and without grid

[bold geyser]

mine was 2884.28 without, 3694.46 with. i'm guessing bis gems will end up being more than 500 cp then with higher base stats 😄

[vast oriole]

pretty much

main has better grid, let me link

bit more cp

[mellow mauve]

depending on your base stats, going from full 8s to full 10s is like 1.1k cp gain

[vast oriole]

yeah that also

but he meant aastrogems

xd

[mellow mauve]

ah

xd

[bold geyser]

also that >_<

zug zug

[lucid axle]

ah kk gonna be a while before i get any cores for support since i already commited to dps

hopefully doesnt take to long would like to try to play supp again sometime

[bold geyser]

was in a party w/ a >8100 cp arcana yesterday 😬

[azure isle]

he’d still be top dps if there were less zeros

arcana needs a buff

[lucid axle]

was there a mention of when the next power pass will be?

[abstract sorrel]

does anyone know how much silver a legendary card costs at wandering merchant?

[bold geyser]

200ki

[lucid axle]

i feel like i saw there was a mention of it but cant seem to find which post

[gray verge]

June

[lucid axle]

ah yeah ty

i thought i remember seeing something saying it was coming in june but wanted to double check and couldnt find it

ty

[bold geyser]

think we were more certain of it before they pushed some stuff back

and now its not so easy to say with confidence

[lucid axle]

oh wait is it not a actual confirmation just a speculation?

[bold geyser]

almost always 😄

[lucid axle]

ah i thought they said a month ig my mind is coping

[bold geyser]

major events ending is a good guess

6/10

but they have had filler weeks in the past when something isn't ready right away

[tender flicker]

https://www.playlostark.com/en-us/news/articles/march-team-update-roadmap-preview

Should be June unless they say otherwise

[lucid axle]

ah yeah thats what i saw

ty

[bold geyser]

so if i have hundreds of blue juice, is it best to just use it on whatever the calc rates it the highest cost value on, even if they're all gonna be negative (since theyr'e bound not bought)?

seems like that'd be...reg serca taps i guess?

[brisk socket]

I tried playing again yesterday, havent played in 2-4 years, itemlevel is 1490, how to i get higher item level? The npc where i could hone items doesnt allow me to upgrade them anymore

[tender flicker]

Up to ilvl 1585 is story, then honing to 1620. Gear transfer there takes you to 1640 (T4) where majority of the player base is at currently.

We’re expecting next powerpass (1640 boost) and express event to come in June

[brisk socket]

Ah i see, i gotta do like story and stuff

[dim pulsar]

Now u do story, depen where u left u would need new gear from npc (gear merchant) in wavestrand port or do story to get next gear set for next story

[brisk socket]

Okay i guess i will go chill with the npcs for a few weeks

[bold geyser]

then we should have another powerpass in a few weeks as well 🙂

[gray verge]

tl;dr complete up to Pleccia in the MSQ, it will give you 1520 gear and then follow Voldis

[brisk socket]

What is msq?

[gray verge]

main story quest

After North Vern these are the blue continent quests like Rohendel, Punika, South Vern etc.

[balmy plank]

?progression

[buoyant dock]

Jump to Gear Progression Steps: #lost-ark-help message

[brisk socket]

Btw i could do solo valtan, but like very barely and got gold from it, if i increase my ilevel then will i not get gold from valtan anymore? And would need to start with the next boss solo

[bold geyser]

you do eventually age out of being able to get gold (or much of anything) from valtan, and a few of the others once you hit 1600+. you can get gold from 3 raids a week, at 1490 your biggest gain is from vykas + clown + brelshaza, until you unlock kayangel

[brisk socket]

Doing vykas brel and clown would be awesome if i had enough skill to win against tgem

[balmy plank]

With practice you'll learn them just fine

[brisk socket]

Tried brelshaza, but there isnt even a hp bar so no idea how that went

[bold geyser]

i believe in you

[bold geyser]

that's gate 0, you can skip it

i dont remember the original purpose of it but you dont need to do it now

[brisk socket]

Oh, i didnt know that

[balmy plank]

Just to be cinematic, when brel was the big huge fancy 6 1/2 gate raid

[brisk socket]

I just died like 30 times there and eventually gave up

[balmy plank]

You can skip over it to get to the real fights. Deathboi has solo guides on youtube too

[brisk socket]

If i have 250k dps or dpm (i dont remember which it was) could i defeat brel in about 15 min? Before she rages

[balmy plank]

Uhmmmm idk what the dps requirments are for those old raids tbh

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19r5A56C8USONYF3AHfCZ8TLgrHuzenEuYH9I21OpTQo/edit?gid=1834190365#gid=1834190365

We have this but it doesnt include solo mode for those older raids

[bold geyser]

if its up to date, its this

(dont know if its up to date)

you're playing your shadowhunter?

[balmy plank]

At those early ilvls its easy to do some questing, get stronger gear and have the benefit of being over ilvl for it too. Makes them easier

[cunning haven]

Hello, can i somehow have more than 1 gold earning roster?

Without making another steam account

[bold geyser]

gray area, especially if you're funneling

[brisk socket]

Perhaps does anyone jnow how much ilevel i can be over before valtan normal mode doesnt give gold anymore? I have several chars and will probably slowly start building them all again

[cunning haven]

Yea, i want to funnel

If that is possible.. o_O

[balmy plank]

Start all over on another server. REALLY not worth the effort imo

You start from zero again

[cunning haven]

Yeah doesnt seem worth but was just curious if its possible

[balmy plank]

Thats the only option

[cunning haven]

Another server meaning like

[brisk socket]

Yes

[bold geyser]

1600 for valtan, though even at 1490 you would stop doing valtan for gold because your highest 3 available are vykas + clown + brel

[cunning haven]

1 in Luterra and 1 in Inanna

[balmy plank]

Exactly

[cunning haven]

For example, right?

[lavish grove]

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May 22, 2026, 7:21 AM

[cunning haven]

I seeeee

Dang i shoulda created my 7th+ chars in a diff server..

Wow

[balmy plank]

You need to spend the time to do the entire story as there is no power pass or events active. You have to hone through tier 3, hone through tier 4 just to make a petty amount of gold to funnel

The the 2nd roster needs to keep up to avoid gold nerfs so you cant always funnel

[cunning haven]

Ahh actually

Yea

I see

[balmy plank]

You also have no cards, no nothing

[cunning haven]

Id prolly struggle tryna farm valtan gold

[balmy plank]

You have no characters so its only 1 funneling or you do the WHOOLLEE thing again for alts

[cunning haven]

If theres a powerpass/challenge express event

Is it 1 per server?

[balmy plank]

1 per region