#lost-ark-help

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tender flicker
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But better if I wait

vast oriole
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if i dont wait, i just get eac'd

tender flicker
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You can enable steam fps overlay to get an idea of when fps levels out

neon rivet
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-novsync -useallavailablecores -notexturestreaming should use all these 3

vast oriole
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i dont use novsync

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its useless

neon rivet
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need to be on fullscreen aswell?

vast oriole
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im using borderless

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but iirc, fullscreen gives more fps for people

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i just hate it

tender flicker
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Same, makes tabbing out awkward

neon rivet
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ye didnt change much

faint cedar
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some games i notice a huge difference in game quality between borderless and fullscreen, but this isnt one of them

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especially nice since i run 3 monitors

rose wren
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fullscreen isnt spreadout like borderless in performances

silver bronze
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Guys whats the difference on bracelet perk between crit HIT dmg and crit dmg?

lavish mortar
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Crit hit good
Crit dmg slightly less good

silver bronze
amber grove
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is there any use or exchange for adv honing scrolls or books that can no longer be used?

balmy plank
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There is not no. If they are roster bound just hang on to them for a potential future alt

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If theyre char bound, store em or toss em

untold hound
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How do I increase my gear lvl from 776 to 805 if I cannot hone my stuff yet

bold geyser
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just by continuing the story

buoyant dockBOT
lucid axle
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this chest is one time only right?

shadow pasture
lucid axle
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only middle chest isnt reoccuring?

bold geyser
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are there in-game clues to point to where to get nukman stones?

shadow pasture
lucid axle
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fack i knowledge transfered one of my alts without knowing Sadge

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ty though

shadow pasture
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yeah its giga worth to just manually do

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takes like 30ish mins anyways

lucid axle
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was joining a learning party in a discord server and completely forgot to do the story didnt want to keep them waiting

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completely forgot about the rewards lol

untold hound
lucid axle
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ark grid is mostly done on it anyways so nothing to bad

shadow pasture
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check below her message

azure isle
bold geyser
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not a lot to go by πŸ˜„

untold hound
bold geyser
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thanks

azure isle
faint roost
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Is there a list of all legendary cards that wandering merchants sell? All i know is galatur, beatrice and vsrarkan

azure isle
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@gentle fiber

gentle fiber
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i guess i should focus on main quest right

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no ideea how to start it, looking it up on the internet

azure isle
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ask anything, if i cant help someone else will

gentle fiber
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i used a powerpass

azure isle
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itll lead u to the msq

gentle fiber
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🀍

azure isle
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the echidna picture you showed in dm

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is express event

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you do overly simplified boss fights in order to reach the end

rose wren
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should have like [guide ] : rimeria

gentle fiber
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bro so i memorised all the attacks, i spent a lot of time in there barely got her to die then died... and the guide video melts her health bar so bad .....

azure isle
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hes probably overgeared

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maxroll has guides for health gated patterns

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but express bosses are simplified enough you should be able to yolo

shy chasm
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And I think alot of new players don't use sidereal they help alot

gentle fiber
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well that's funny. i followed the quest and it has me spending aura of resonance. and i can't progress untill daily reset XD

azure isle
gentle fiber
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guess i have to wait

azure isle
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do you have anything here

gentle fiber
azure isle
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how tf did that quest start chat

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i forgor

gentle fiber
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i've seen a video claiming the exact same spot you showed

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but ehh, it seems that i must do an aura of resonance thingy first before, which i already done so ugh,, gotta wait i guess

livid fossil
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What quest

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Kuzazan front

azure isle
livid fossil
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172

azure isle
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not related to msq

livid fossil
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1620 chaos dungeon

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That’s not msq

azure isle
gentle fiber
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right so it seems i have to focus on other things

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no ideea where to start/what to do XD

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i hope i have set my specs well following a guide

azure isle
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whats ur ingame name

gentle fiber
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Xafenblazeit

azure isle
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you said you wanted to play RE

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ur on surge

lavish groveBOT
rose wren
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?quickstart

azure isle
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follow the guide and apply everything applicable at ur ilvl

buoyant dockBOT
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Quickstart Info NOTED

So you just powerpassed?

  1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
  2. Skills (K Menu)
  3. Skill Runes
  4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
  5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
  6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
  7. Dismantle settings here

  1. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
  2. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
  3. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

gentle fiber
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thanks! i'm focusing on arkesia tour

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but i've hit a wall, so uhm

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i need this item

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which i seem to have claimed definitely a while ago but seems to be nowhere :/

rose wren
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check ur inventory?

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or see map if u already done it

gentle fiber
gentle fiber
rose wren
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world map press m, zoom out

gentle fiber
azure isle
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you can see if youve completed it here

gentle fiber
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i haven't

rose wren
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do u have more than 1chara?

gentle fiber
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i do

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should i try on other char to grab it? XD

azure isle
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check each inventory

gentle fiber
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right- on it

rose wren
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its a roster item, so u can store and swap to get it completd

gentle fiber
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well fml it's nowhere to be found

lucid tendon
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Can i use this pass for a new character and then transfer knowledge on my main to avoid the quest?

rose wren
gentle fiber
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YES

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mail it was ty :D

azure isle
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doesnt rimeria pass autocomplete rimeria

rose wren
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no north rimeria? i havent been on to see lol

lucid tendon
rich verge
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msq kinda worth doing atleast 1 time imo but can respect this line of strategizing kekW

loud crystal
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Anyone willing to come run Argeos with me and my two new friends?

rose wren
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?lfg use

buoyant dockBOT
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We have lfgroup and lfstatic channels in each of our region categories (requires region role).
You can filter the postings by clicking on content relevant tags or even 'Learning Group'.
#1051258008853807174/#1051276943619792948

Also check out some LFG/Learning dedicated Discords:
Mokoko elp (EU Central): https://discord.gg/mokokoelp
Loot Heroes (NA East): https://discord.com/invite/loot-heroes-992030480633442315
Lokokos (EU Central) https://discord.gg/lokokos
Lost Ark Mokoko's (NA/NA West): https://discord.gg/6jSfqB3ugA
Mokoko Mentors & Co. (German): https://discord.gg/mokokomentors
Lost Ark Achievement: https://discord.gg/J62pB4qJGq
Hell Academy: https://discord.gg/hell-academy-993327417504583751

livid fossil
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It still long but at least you don’t have to hone for each continent

rich verge
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im only talking about that rimeria one tbh

oblique prism
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inannas blessing is roster or char?

rich verge
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its like 1h30 if you skip everything

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inanna is roster but the chaos dungeon per day you only get on 1 char

rose wren
bold geyser
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diaspero takes how long to speed run?

balmy plank
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The raid?

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The totally depends on your group

bold geyser
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the pre-serca thing

balmy plank
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The Kazeros Epilouge? 35mins if youre quick

bold geyser
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o thats not bad

faint roost
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Can someone help explain how astrogems work, i thought epic was the highest rank, but i see people with ancient astrogems

balmy plank
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There is green, blue & purple astrogems. When you cut them they can become higher rarity depending on how successful it is

bold geyser
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legendary, relic, or ancient

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anything relic+ is usually quite good

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...but you could have maxed out side nodes and bad main stats that make it not worth πŸ˜›

minor briar
minor grail
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how to change my meter into this?

balmy plank
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You can change the 4 metrics being displayed

minor grail
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can i do it from outside a raid?

balmy plank
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Pretty sure. Just open up any old log

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I found that UI out of raid

elfin nymph
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im new 1680. which is better?

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valk

azure isle
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dps?

elfin nymph
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solo raid, so ya

azure isle
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right

elfin nymph
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just hit 1680, so i guess i switch my accessorys out for the new ones?

azure isle
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you should get baseline ancients from waymark missions

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but to upgrade those... you need to spend a lot of silver if ur not lucky to cut accessories from paradise with silver

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specifically a high mid % stats, anything below isnt really an upgrade to waymark mission accs

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alternatively if you got pheons and that is your main youre playing, buy accessories from a.house

azure isle
elfin nymph
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ill just use waymark ones

azure isle
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theyre high low right im not misremembering

tender flicker
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aren't waymark like...mid nothing or something?

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maybe some flats

azure isle
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i might be confusing waymark ones with express ones

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or solo shop ones

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in my defense its 7am

tender flicker
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solo shop is high and some flats

azure isle
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can we get a screenshot

mellow mauve
azure isle
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hm

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then get waymark, work on to getting solo shop accessories

tender flicker
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waymark is more than fine if you're doing mostly solo and honing up

mellow mauve
azure isle
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and only then upgrade if you can

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which you dont really need to

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at 1680 atleast

elfin nymph
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should i level up karmic evolution

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its alot of gold

azure isle
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is enlightment and leap 6.21

elfin nymph
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what

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i havent unlocked karmic leap

azure isle
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is your enlightment and leap rank 6 level 21

elfin nymph
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no

azure isle
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then dont touch karmic

elfin nymph
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ok ill do those first

azure isle
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its the last upgrade

elfin nymph
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need more gold PepoCry

azure isle
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we all do

nocturne burrow
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anyone know the best stat to dump points into for fmh souleater?

tender flicker
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fmh is spec main stat, then crit. So 30 points spec, 10 crit.

azure isle
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fmh dont have nexus too?

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oh damn

tender flicker
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their .dev updated thing isn't quite updated

azure isle
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i see it lacks crucial info HuTaoKekPlosion

nocturne burrow
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yea ive been trying to follow that guide

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kinda packed for a newbie

tender flicker
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Could check out maxroll if it feels a bit much

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Community guide is generally more thorough, but can be a lot to work through

nocturne burrow
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im just chatgpting my way through this run lmfao

tender flicker
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ai uh tends to get confused with this game ngl

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with updates and stuff

nocturne burrow
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ive noticed lol

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thats what brought me here

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so much to stay on top of

wide flume
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There's a souleater specific channel here you should ask things in.

faint roost
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How do i differentiate between a class, and a common astrogem?

azure isle
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a what

rapid fiber
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I guess red would be for classes while blue is general cores

tender flicker
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Order = class/red, chaos = blue/generic. They have different names too.

azure isle
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how much cp is one level of brand power and ally damage enhancement ?

azure isle
bold geyser
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i'm certain it scales w/ your gear like most things

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but i should have enough duplicates lying around to try to guesstimate

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sec

bold geyser
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at ~2600 cp dps bard

  • 1 level of additional damage is a little over 1.5cp
  • 1 level of atk power is a little under 0.8cp
  • 1 level of boss damage is a little over 2cp
azure isle
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alot adding up

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ty for the testing

bold geyser
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yeah sorry πŸ˜„

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if you perfectly swapped them

azure isle
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i added my lv19 ally damage enh to attack power and 35 brand power to additional damage

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thats ALOT

bold geyser
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yeah =X

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even if you just put them into attack power

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at least 40cp

azure isle
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43.2 yeah

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81 if additional damage

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and thats just from gems

bold geyser
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really hard to get perfects

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my valk is some sorta witch

azure isle
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if youre using all relic, what do you want from gems in a perfect world

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can a relic fit 5 ancient gems?

bold geyser
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no

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still just the 4

azure isle
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oh theres 4 slots

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myb

bold geyser
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but if you cut a bunch of 5/5s

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damn i was gonna look atm y valk but now i gotta swap back

azure isle
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so a relic can fit 4 ancients?

bold geyser
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can fit 15 wp worth

azure isle
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whats ancient, 17 to 19?

bold geyser
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and 8 gem can be a 3/5p, 9 a 4/5p, 10 a 5/5p

tender flicker
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17

azure isle
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hm

bold geyser
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so i guess an ancient could fit 4 9s?

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er, 3 9s and a 10?

azure isle
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not a 10

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4 9s make 16p

bold geyser
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right

azure isle
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you cant even fit 4 10s in an ancient

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wthelly

bold geyser
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newp

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10s arent great

azure isle
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are 9s the best

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subs wise

bold geyser
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looks like 10s would be for dps

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not sure for sup

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not a huge difference but i imagine it adds up

azure isle
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is ally attack vs ally damage too big of a difference tho

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well 9 gives both

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but i assume sups want brand

bold geyser
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thats where im not sure πŸ˜„

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i can do the same for those if i can find the gems

azure isle
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im happy with the dps test

bold geyser
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already here may as well

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-ally damage about 1.4cp
-ally atk about 3.4cp
-brand about 2.2cp

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ymmv

azure isle
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truly bloated

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dps max is 2cp

bold geyser
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just better shrug

elfin nymph
bold geyser
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but fr my supp set is way stronger than my dps

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and even the ratios between them might be off based on what i have

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just ballpark perfect-world sidenodes as ~1-2 cp per level

azure isle
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even if you had 1:1 exact lines ur supp still wins because of those numbers

bold geyser
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i mean it might be multiplicative with the rest of my gear πŸ˜„

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my gems and jewelry are weay better for supp

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but, no more math i'm passing out

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good luck πŸ˜„

azure isle
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i told u i was happy with dps lines

bold geyser
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(i did it for me WeSmart)

inland pebble
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what do I do with these

shadow pasture
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make a whole lotta corvus shadow battle items

tender flicker
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Is it better to do that vs make the farm ones using bound grenades?

azure isle
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think farm is better if u got a lot of bound wws PepoThink

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could use the logs somewhere else

inland pebble
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what do I do with them for fusions

shadow pasture
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theres an exchange guy in the stronhold

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in the farm area

inland pebble
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is that the optimal thing to do with them for gold/fusion returns?

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and which npc

azure isle
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market area, top right npc in the circle

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roster material exchange

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if its optimal probably depends on ur stock

shadow pasture
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well if you craft your own fusions yeah

inland pebble
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I do make my own fusions

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but I just know they sell for a lot so people must be using them to make fusions or something

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if that's what people are doing with them then I should do it too

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they convert to the other blue logs or something else?

tender flicker
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You can check the conversion vs straight up selling value

inland pebble
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is there a calculator

tender flicker
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With market tax

shadow pasture
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you can input the market prices in there

azure isle
inland pebble
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I'll poke around at it

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ty

elfin nymph
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peck

inner shell
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Is there a "tank" class in this game? Or only dps and supp classes ?

tender flicker
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There are tanky classes, but no dedicated tanking role

inland pebble
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there is no tank role, the closest thing to tank is Gunlancer which has shields for the party, a taunt that works on some bosses

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and the ability to give party super armor sometimes

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but it is a DPS

faint roost
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What does upgrading my relic weap to aegir weap do, given weap dont give evolution points?0

tender flicker
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Lets you hone past lvl 20

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Not needed for a while

faint roost
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So it doesnt give any sort of stat boost?

tender flicker
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No

inland pebble
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literally zero dmg, stat, or cp gained

tender flicker
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I guess it might be needed to transfer to Serca gear, but then again thats at ilvl 1730 anyways. So not for a while again.

inland pebble
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you do need it to convert it at item level 1730

azure isle
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could it be a strategy to save aegir balls and use relic weapon till 1730

inland pebble
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all my alts did that of course

faint roost
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Curious how much gold are we looking at too get one char too 1750, and 4000cp. Very rough estimates

tender flicker
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I guess depends on where you're starting from and with, and with Serca gear? Kinda low cp for that ilvl imo, what are we looking at 1750 for?

inland pebble
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it's really tough to have any kind of estimate because everyone has different amounts of materials already saved up

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you get materials every day from dailies, raids, etc

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and some things like shards are not meant to be bought in full, you get the majority of them from dailies

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if you say "well how much is it if I bought literally everything" and then it's going to be a bad number that is not really what anyone pays

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you just do your dailies, weeklies, and everything else on whichever characters you have and use your resources to go for what you want

tender flicker
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...is that a pso rappy?

inland pebble
minor briar
minor briar
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buying all mats for honing, new h/m accs, new full 8's, non min max'd ark grid

azure isle
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whos stupid here me or the game

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none of them have 2 favorite engravings yet all survive the if check

minor briar
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u r

azure isle
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explain

minor briar
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opened from paradise boxes?

azure isle
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solo shop

minor briar
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did u click the blue button

azure isle
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the what

minor briar
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"batch select"

minor briar
azure isle
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it trashes all of them

azure isle
minor briar
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also u should go alt+i

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and change the noti settings there

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to 2+

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so the rocks with 1 engr dont have the icon

azure isle
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ty for that

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should this stay 3 or go 4

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idk what makes a 5

minor briar
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probs 4 for 2/2 or 3/1's

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3/2 4/1+

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9 7 or 10 6+

azure isle
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3/2 also 4?

minor briar
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thats 5 total

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3+2

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=5

azure isle
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oh is it that easy to math

minor briar
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it dismantles < BELOW

azure isle
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this question mark is ahh

minor briar
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so if u want to keep 2/2 and 3/1, u put it to 4

azure isle
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arigato

silk tiger
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Quick question about ark grid:

When I want to fuse astro gems in this tab, does it make a difference if the chosen gems have more or less willpower + order/chaos points or is it completely rng and doesn't matter at all?

spring spruce
silk tiger
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Oh sorry, was explicit wondering about the processed astrogems.

plain ermine
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Processed is by rarity, e.g. 3 legend has chance to get relic or remain as legend

While 3 relic has chance to get 1 ancient, or remain as relic, or downgrade to legend.

It should show you the percentage everytime u put it up on the catalyst

silk tiger
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Thanks. So I'll dismantle legendary gems in the future

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Kind of hoped that fusing e.g. 3x 5 wp 5 order/chaos will give me a better chance to yield a good new gem regardless of the rarity

normal rivet
azure isle
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you can dismantle processed ones

silk tiger
normal rivet
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damn i didnt know that, thanks

silk tiger
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In the ark grid menu

rich verge
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Today I learned

spring spruce
minor briar
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but also, the rates for 12+ points r 17% so still worth

silk tiger
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I think I've never gotten a single got gem out of the fusion

minor briar
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better odds than shard exchange

normal rivet
minor briar
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random

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stats too

errant pendant
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What are the odds of getting ancient core from core chest

rich verge
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copium/10

warm sleet
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any way of actually checking which tool is forbidden? or i just need to dc from time to time without knowing whats going on ?

minor briar
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never seen that one before

warm sleet
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fun fact is that when i was using autofishing script i never saw that error. It only happens on guardians for me xD

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like once or twice a week, just my patience ended now

minor briar
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geforce now?

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idk

warm sleet
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nah idk its not too regularly to know whats going on, i can play month without this error, sometimes it may happen 3 times in a day

untold hound
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How can i quickly get gold

dim pulsar
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?gold

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Roster Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Chaos Gates
  • Mokoko Express Event
  • Solo Mode Raids
  • 10 Nukmans Illusion stone (30k gold one time)
Character Bound Gold

Same as Bound Gold, but per character

  • Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Crucible
  • Paradise Hell Chests
  • Certain Legion raids, Kazeros raids, Epic raids partial gold is bound
  • Abyssal Dungeons partial gold is bound
sand hinge
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anyone know what this means

faint cedar
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It’s likely warning you that you’re hitting the threshold of honing where you should probably transfer to the new gear for better honing rates

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Before continuing

sand hinge
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ahhh

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well i cant really get the new gear anyways

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so does it matter too much if i still hone it

faint cedar
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What ilvl are you

thorny heath
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it's just not efficient

sand hinge
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1724

faint cedar
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Is ur adv 40 done

sand hinge
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nah not yet only weapon is done

thorny heath
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you can keep doing serca nm and transfer gear once you hit ilvl 1730

faint cedar
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Finish ur adv 40

thorny heath
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finish AH40 on everythin and get to +20AH on regular honing

sand hinge
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yeah everything is +20 some are 21

faint cedar
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To answer the question, do not continue to hone

sand hinge
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ahh okay

faint cedar
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If you were at 24 going to 25 with some pity, sure

thorny heath
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you'll turn your +20 gear into +11

faint cedar
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But 20-21 doesn’t make a dif

thorny heath
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and honing chances are much higher again

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1.5% -> 5% base

sand hinge
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oh yeah fat jump

thorny heath
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so instead of 4.5% max you could reach 15% with support mats

balmy plank
sand hinge
#

my only issue is getting these thunder globes cause i cant get any act 3 parties

#

im purely going off the growth shop

thorny heath
#

well you gonna hit a roadblock either way

#

question is you wanna do it efficiently or inefficiently

#

and what do you unlock by pushing right now

faint cedar
#

Nobody’s doing act 3 before the weekend

sand hinge
#

true nothing really besides

faint cedar
#

It’s most likely a Monday Tuesday sidereal fishing raid angle

thorny heath
#

I'd take it slow if i were you πŸ‘

faint cedar
#

Or some people are straight up not doing it because we were force fed the raid for a hot minute

sand hinge
sand hinge
faint cedar
#

People doing extra raids for the chance of a sidereal energy tradable drop

#

They can drop from any raid

sand hinge
#

ahhh right

thorny heath
#

also you can try tuesdays, since most people are done with their stuff

#

they might take anyone just to fill the lobby up

sand hinge
#

yeah will try that

faint cedar
#

At 1726 you shouldn’t have much an issue getting into an act 3

#

Unless ur char is butt

thorny heath
#

you got a link to your char?

#

or name we can look up

sand hinge
#

yeah

#

it probs is buns hard getting into lobbys

balmy plank
#

I cant imagine anyone is fishing for side drops

faint cedar
#

Cards, sides, etc

thorny heath
#

ah yeah 2.1k at 1726

#

is uhhh

#

low to say the least

sand hinge
#

yeah its way too low

#

i also cucked myself cause i lost mokoko before getting any of the rewards

thorny heath
#

sick bracelet tho lmao

faint cedar
#

You’re just missing a lot of ark grid

sand hinge
#

yeahh was so hyped when i got taht

#

yeahh teh ark grid is killing me

thorny heath
#

you should hit about 3k when you git 17p on everything

#

the problem with honing so far ahead like you did

#

is that it shows that you are clueless

sand hinge
#

yep which i am

thorny heath
#

wheter you are or not

#

there are certain cp expectations at certain levels

#

2k is about 1710 nowadays i would say

#

for the average player

sand hinge
#

yeah i was way under 2k when i was 1710

faint cedar
#

This is my SE for comparison

#

Look how much I’m getting from ark grid alone

#

Everything else is ass

thorny heath
#

yeah that's a very comparable char

#

a couple books

#

low gems

#

single high accessories, nothing amazing

#

the event accessories are mad good tho

sand hinge
#

yeah ark grids are a real set back

thorny heath
#

keep them for the rest of your life

#

if you are just starting out with ark grid prepare for it to take months

sand hinge
faint cedar
#

The rings are the only things you should really look at class V class

thorny heath
#

as an experiment i didnt buy chests after raids on one of my alts

#

and i still didnt finish it now

faint cedar
#

To make sure you hit your crit thresholds

thorny heath
#

about 5 months in

sand hinge
faint cedar
#

Going from mid mid to high low crit rate is actually a necessity on some classes

#

But I’m not familiar with that ark grid set up SE

thorny heath
#

tl;dr

#

it takes time

#

get your ark grid done

#

1730 unlocks some new solo content like new chaos and guardians

#

but you are miles away from doing serca hm even if you do reach 1730

#

the pug expectations are at about 3.5k for dps

sand hinge
#

yeah just needa focus on my ark grid

thorny heath
#

act iv hm is relatively easy you gonna get most of your ark cores from that

#

MAYBE consider inanna's blessing as a p2w option

#

since you can buy chests twice

glossy swallow
faint cedar
#

There’s no point in going for HM serca, it takes 2 weeks of NM to get your weapon, and then you’ll get an armor piece a week on normal

sand hinge
#

yeah i got inannas aswell but its hard for me to get into act 4 parties cause all the teaching sessions are out of my timezone

faint cedar
#

The dmg check in HM serca is incredibly high

#

For a fresh 1730

sand hinge
thorny heath
#

oh yeah finish karma

#

(get everythiung to lvl 21, then to 25 at the end, done)

#

besides that not much to do honestly

faint cedar
#

For ur main you kinda want rank 6lvl25 but if you’re tight on gold you can stop at 21

thorny heath
#

whenver you get hell bracelet options, maybe consider a couple

obsidian valve
#

21 is da sweet spot UwU

thorny heath
faint cedar
#

Bracelets, stones, high mid plus acc

#

They all take time and rng

obsidian valve
#

soooo much RNG 😩

faint cedar
#

(Unless you’re whaling out on the market)

#

Worry about the things you can control

thorny heath
faint cedar
#

I cut my only 2 high mids

faint cedar
#

Just wore them

#

Saved me a million or so

thorny heath
#

don't arna me or I'll arna you

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

my view might be a bit skewed being more on the endgame side of things, but imho what I consider "good" is:

  • 1700-1710: 2k
  • 1710-1720: 2.5k
  • 1730: 3k
  • 1740: 4k?
faint cedar
#

Is that dps or support

thorny heath
#

kinda same same

silk tiger
#

Way too high

thorny heath
#

imho supports reach same cp but it stops at 1730, getting past 3.2k on supports is insane

mellow mauve
silk tiger
#

Act 4 and Kazeros nm is easily done under 2k cp

thorny heath
#

yeye what "can" be done isn't the question tho

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

but I'd say that's the average expectation of a decent lobby

faint cedar
silk tiger
#

99% are just delulu and dont want to play the game

mellow mauve
thorny heath
#

really depends on who you wanna play with too

faint cedar
glossy swallow
#

act 4 normals weren't problem for now somehow, it was first non behe raid i got after returning.

I still don't know non solo 1-3 acts, yet act 4 was cleared 2/3 times

faint cedar
obsidian valve
#

actually they have a point πŸ™‚

glossy swallow
#

support privilege of people just getting anyone after some wait time, because weak support > no support

faint cedar
#

It’s a help channel, be helpful

thorny heath
#

I've been trying to pug serca hm on my 3 support alts yesterday and oh my god

mellow mauve
thorny heath
#

haven't been there in a while artistcaught

mellow mauve
#

Lot of dps alts compared to support alts at 1700/1710

vast oriole
#

ah low end

mellow mauve
#

1730+ is kinda swimming in supports

vast oriole
#

nvm

#

im dumb

#

cant read

mellow mauve
#

ye'

vast oriole
#

gg

mellow mauve
#

Dumbna

#

jkjk

vast oriole
#

valid

thorny heath
#

and get gems to 7

#

given you have the gold

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

everything else will take time

#

well there you go

vast oriole
#

nice gold

faint cedar
#

1700-1720 is a supp drought. All the good supp players way up there now 😒

glossy swallow
#

sold grudge and rank 10 t3 dps gem basically,

thorny heath
#

if you have some pheons to spare try some bracelets

#

otherwise dont rush

glossy swallow
#

So i have resources to invest,

I have no idea what to invest on

thorny heath
#

if you get 100 cp more

#

it ain't gonna make a difference

#

1500 or 1600 both are low

obsidian valve
thorny heath
#

and most importantly, make some friends

mellow mauve
faint cedar
#

Make sure you hit your horizontal systems. Your karma, your ark grid, your accessories

thorny heath
#

you'll reach 2k in a couple weeks

obsidian valve
#

mhm just keep on truckin πŸ˜„

glossy swallow
obsidian valve
thorny heath
#

i gave you a list based on priority i'd work on it in that order

glossy swallow
#

yeah.
taking notes

thorny heath
#

everything else is gonna take time

obsidian valve
#

just up to when/how you wanna use it

thorny heath
#

meanwhile go make some friends so they carry you through the first couple weeks

faint cedar
#

There’s a couple support books that are on the cheaper end as well

#

Might give some cp there

#

If you end up having leftover gold

mellow mauve
thorny heath
#

yeah drops of ether is dirt cheap

#

and gives the most dps

obsidian valve
#

drops of ether is good mokokoThumbsup

thorny heath
#

magick stream is also good and it's even cheaper rn

#

you can probably max out both immediately

obsidian valve
#

honestly, i also use disrespect on my supps, don't hate me please πŸ˜…

faint cedar
#

Like 60k to max drops on na if they’re still 3k a pop

lavish mortar
#

Please god max out Magick stream or I will gatekeep you

glossy swallow
#

Also i don't know if i want to Throw away all this gold i have, or how much i should keep as "healthy minimum"

thorny heath
#

idk idgaf i went down to 0 after

lavish mortar
vast oriole
faint cedar
#

Me looking at my single digit gold at the end of every week

vast oriole
glossy swallow
#

Well
magick stream is gonna be like 100k

vast oriole
#

to upgrade your char

mellow mauve
#

120k for MS

thorny heath
#

you got a million gold

#

think to yourself

#

what does that gold do

#

sitting there

vast oriole
#

like idk

#

fix your char

obsidian valve
vast oriole
#

and dont think about the gold you will spend for it

thorny heath
#

there ain't no interest in this game

faint cedar
#

You could argue to keep around like 50k gold just to be able to list a good book if you get one on the market

thorny heath
#

that sounds reasonable

#

but you don't need massive amounts of gold

#

i got a couple friends that do the same idk why

glossy swallow
#

Blushie i originally was thinking about "100k gold for crafting purposes so i can keep crafting fusion mats even if prices will fall down and i won't sell instantly "

faint cedar
#

Feels bad getting a good tradable drop and not being able to list it with all your raids done

mellow mauve
thorny heath
#

that too idk how the rest of your roster looks like

mellow mauve
#

So even though you're spending 120k and like 240k. You're getting 4x value on that gold spent

glossy swallow
#

If only my supports were gonna leave 1640 anytime soon outside of free paradise mats

thorny heath
thorny heath
#

well it'll certainly be usefull either way

#

it's super cheap

#

in comparison to dps books

obsidian valve
thorny heath
#

don't overthink it

obsidian valve
#

i'd say it's more of a "non-negotiable" for supports KEKW

glossy swallow
#

pepoG

Alright.
gems lvl 7
then checking accesories,
then basic* engraves, like drops and magick.
then, i'll ask further i quess?

mellow mauve
#

yea

faint cedar
#

It’s actually super wild to think about

glossy swallow
#

vph worth it?

mellow mauve
#

not really

glossy swallow
#

i recall it was a necessity for supports back in the days,

faint cedar
#

Being able to max a book for under 100k while I need to spend 7MM to do one

mellow mauve
#

It doesn't give cp and the raids you are currently doing aren't stagger heavy

glossy swallow
#

or at least it was a good custom to have it,

obsidian valve
#

vph used to be considered viable but not so much anymore

glossy swallow
#

Crushing fist let's go

vast oriole
#

i would go books before accs personally

thorny heath
#

maybe look at it from another angle

#

not having a lot of things to work on

#

can also be a good thing

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

you're blessed with a cost efficient class

glossy swallow
#

looks at igniter at the end of the roster

vast oriole
#

doesnt matter the lats

#

focus on main

thorny heath
#

yeah

obsidian valve
#

main ftw mhm

thorny heath
#

you can just do solo raids honestly

glossy swallow
#

igniter is giving me the most dopamine while playing tbh

#

Liek i would mentally cry if it was my main

obsidian valve
#

igniter is fun smilemk

glossy swallow
#

untill you miss 2 meteors

#

can't do 3 for now in my case

obsidian valve
#

dis is true KEKW

vast oriole
#

for igniter, the cheapest book is all out attack but i wouldnt buy it since youre only 1650 on it

thorny heath
#

absolutely nothing is needed to clear anything below 1700 tbh

#

(regarding solo raids)

glossy swallow
#

if not vph then what, heavy armor?

#

Sigh
off to bard chat wish me luck

vast oriole
#

max mp or heavy armor

#

no need to ask bard chat

#

icee plays bard as a main

#

and i was playing bard for ages

glossy swallow
#

I used to play heavy armor when i was playing spec bard in "errors of the past" phase.
now with swift i kinda feel like it's less of a necessity,

#

suprisingly swiftness allows me to dodge hits i was earlier superarmor'ing through

thorny heath
#

a lot changed and even without heavy armor you're tanky as shit

glossy swallow
#

always has been,

vast oriole
thorny heath
#

you're still just gonna stand there and push immune most shit

#

WOMWOM

vast oriole
#

heavy armor is comfy for progging

glossy swallow
#

Without full spec and igniter i don't feel urge of having womwom anymore

vast oriole
#

but personally as an artist, i just use max mp

vast oriole
#

people are still standing in narnia

#

or not close to you

glossy swallow
#

that's good argument

vast oriole
#

wom shield is nice for progging

supple shoal
vast oriole
#

but yeah

#

thats about it

thorny heath
#

"unfortunately" @vast oriole

vast oriole
supple shoal
#

for pug id run wom tho

#

for prog too

vast oriole
#

depends how good you are

mellow mauve
#

I just run womwom in pug Shrug

vast oriole
#

i was using womwom all the time in pugs

glossy swallow
#

technically womwom allows you to heal faster

vast oriole
#

was more than enough with gt, rhaps and ct

#

oh god

#

no heal please

faint cedar
#

I don’t trust any womwom pugs sub 1730

glossy swallow
#

You can't choose your teammates in pugs

vast oriole
#

unless its very very very bad and youll wipe

supple shoal
#

heal is bad

thorny heath
#

below 1730 it doesnt matter either

supple shoal
#

just use purp pots

vast oriole
#

youre fucking up your mana regen

thorny heath
#

run whatever you want

vast oriole
#

if you heal too much

glossy swallow
vast oriole
#

why you kekw

glossy swallow
#

i'm used to pain

vast oriole
#

its literally true

obsidian valve
thorny heath
#

tl;dr welcome back to the game

#

you can minmax in 2 years

vast oriole
#

3 bar dps bubble gives mroe perfect harmony stacks

thorny heath
#

once you "catch up"

glossy swallow
#

I've been playing spec bard from argos to brelshaza

#

I'm used to pain of a pugs, i 've been causing it

vast oriole
#

i was constantly playing with pugs

#

and still using womwom

#

because gt is broken enough

#

and ct

thorny heath
#

that's french for "pugs"

obsidian valve
#

ah i see mokokoThumbsup

vast oriole
faint cedar
#

Once your next upgrade is in the millions, you’re pretty much caught up

thorny heath
vast oriole
obsidian valve
#

i still love WOM πŸ™‚

vast oriole
thorny heath
#

will admit meter gen is ass like this tho

#

but who cares

#

except

#

ARNA

faint cedar
vast oriole
#

if you dont care about meter gen, dont play bard

#

lol

obsidian valve
#

my bard isn't high enough for cores yet KEKW

thorny heath
#

NOT LIKE WE EVER PLAY TOGETHER

#

πŸ…±οΈARNA

vast oriole
glossy swallow
#

While we talking here, relic magick stream got 900 gold cheaper per each

#

stonks

vast oriole
#

doesnt matter, you have 1mil

faint cedar
#

Ur gold buys me 3 books

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

finished grudge this week

#

finally

glossy swallow
#

aside of gold, i have emergency stash i've farmed on arthetine curios at game release KEKW

thorny heath
#

once I'm really finished with all books they gonna introduce ancient ass books

glossy swallow
faint cedar
#

Once I do my main swap then I’ll finally start on buying books

vast oriole
#

my next upgrades EunchaeSleep

thorny heath
#

everything inflated, only mats (if you still have any left) would've gained some worth

vast oriole
#

and sell mats

thorny heath
#

life skilling

vast oriole
#

or craft abidos and sell

glossy swallow
#

Alright, drops next i believe

#

gems lvl 7 done already, one of them is even upgrade'able further and not bound.

any other engraves, or those two and accesories?

#

why i asked i could've just check awakening price and tell myself no

thorny heath
#

honestly i bought engravings from cheapest to most expensive

#

you can just check market prices

#

expert is probably the most useless one given how much it costs and does

#

but it does inflate your cp quite a bit

obsidian valve
#

i still use expert mokokoSob

glossy swallow
#

From solo shop?

thorny heath
glossy swallow
#

ah

tender flicker
#

Expert gave me like half the cp awakening did and it’s uh not very useful

thorny heath
#

only 20k a lvl 7 gem

glossy swallow
#

I though you were talking about engrave

#

Yeah i got those already

thorny heath
#

ah good

glossy swallow
#

4 those 6 powerpass and 1 leftover from t3.

thorny heath
#

can't fuse them but for 20k a gem who cares

#

neat

obsidian valve
#

hm guess i'll be upgrading some engravings too then KEKW

thorny heath
#

also consider ability stones from paradise

#

getting a 3-1 is a decent upgrade

#

(let's not talk about 3-2)

glossy swallow
#

Should i upgrade heavy armor too tho,
it doesn't affect combat power i think

thorny heath
#

nah you're not gonna use that ever

vast oriole
#

it doesnt

glossy swallow
#

I'm not settliong for 3-1

thorny heath
#

sounds like a gambler

vast oriole
#

get awakening drops on stone btw

glossy swallow
#

This is free stone form powerpass.
i'm trying to cut better ones if they drop, no luck yet

vast oriole
#

hell can give stones

thorny heath
#

ye thats what i meant

obsidian valve
#

mhm

glossy swallow
#

I prefer to non gamble my stuff in hell if i may,

Like fusion mats and gold, if not those then special honing and destiny stones ( i quess not anymore after i upgrade my karma)

thorny heath
#

oh yeah for sure

glossy swallow
#

...

karma.
need to get 6/21 on eveerything, wonder how much it'll eat

thorny heath
#

"more than 2 gold"

#

as a guildmate would say

glossy swallow
#

6/21 is fine or i definitely want to get more asap?

thorny heath
#

btw doesnt mordum solo gives hm mats now?

#

you minmax with 21 points

#

25 is somewhat easy to reach, thats why it's recommeneded

mellow mauve
thorny heath
#

when it comes to %

#

after that it drops off

#

(also no more points or anything)

glossy swallow
#

um,

about ark grid

#

untill i drop any good relic stones or anything, do i care anyhow about it?

mellow mauve
#

any support core > no support core. When you have the ability to pick Iden/T-Skill core > the ap core.

glossy swallow
#

Sigh 4/6/6 and ran out of juice

mellow mauve
#

Bard your star core is between buckshot and soundholic core

#

wom core is kinda eh

thorny heath
#

ye dont be me

thorny heath
#

you can cut astrogems meanwhile

#

side nodes don't matter at the beginning, think of it as elixirs

#

you want to get to 17 points asap

#

(which would be 40 set with elixirs)

glossy swallow
#

I wasn't playing at elixirs

thorny heath
#

lucky you

glossy swallow
#

It's mechanic i skipped totally
i know nothing about it aand i will never know

thorny heath
#

this is the unwanted child of elixirs and transcendence

#

then tl,dr

#

max red and yellow

#

get the cores from the pity chests

#

that say "actives destiny"

#

and "when destiny is activated"

#

that's your base setup

#

for ark grid

glossy swallow
#

alright, need to do act 2 solo and i'm fine with karma

thorny heath
#

easy

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

yup reasonable

glossy swallow
#

don't mind expert it's here because it's here

thorny heath
#

dw we still all use it

glossy swallow
#

Accesories time it is i quess?

vast oriole
#

remove this dogshit ass vph please

obsidian valve
#

mhm i still use expert and heavy armor

vast oriole
#

anything is better than that

obsidian valve
#

me just wanna chill on supp KEKW

thorny heath
#

just put in max mp

#

then you can max that out too

glossy swallow
thorny heath
#

2 points into mp furnace

#

done

vast oriole
#

even grudge is better ty

vast oriole
#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

#

ew

obsidian valve
#

loool

thorny heath
#

ew my ass

vast oriole
#

dogshit

thorny heath
#

you are

glossy swallow
#

is there any reason to go mp furnace?

thorny heath
hearty kraken
#

i like vph

obsidian valve
#

oh lawd

vast oriole
thorny heath
#

dont listen to arna

vast oriole
glossy swallow
#

like standingstrike 20 brand power at max stacks,

thorny heath
#

5k rat

#

you can spam like an animal with max mp

#

and you can turn off your brain

obsidian valve
#

bard don't need no vph KEKW

thorny heath
#

on the floor? doesnt matter

#

standing striker is good

#

but mp furnace goes well with max mp increase

vast oriole
#

yeah if you like going oom for 0 reason

thorny heath
#

(and it's great to annoy someone here)

hearty kraken
#

I know what im gonna add on my rat bard now

glossy swallow
#

conviction judgment- do i care anymore

vast oriole
#

i neevr played it

#

always hated it

obsidian valve
#

disrespect and necromancy bard ftw smilemk

thorny heath
#

sue me KEKDog

thorny heath
#

and I'm an ass support that just spams buttons

#

as long as you manage to hit heavenly tune

obsidian valve
#

i still use C/J smilemk

thorny heath
#

you're good

glossy swallow
#

Explosive expert gives combat power? Blushie

vast oriole
#

no

#

only crushing fist

obsidian valve
#

idk but my artist uses explosive expert KEKDog

vast oriole
#

cj was nice with harp but you dont use it anymore so

#

yeah ee is nice in prog

obsidian valve
#

i still use harp, i'm weird i know πŸ‘€

hearty kraken
vast oriole
#

not weird

#

just useless skill

glossy swallow
#

i recently was using harp and sound shock at once...

obsidian valve
#

i see, too lazy to change it i guess shruge

vast oriole
#

.......

obsidian valve
#

and she's an alt

thorny heath
glossy swallow
#

changed to sonatina now, got liking to that skill

vast oriole
#

i mena my bard is an alt since 1 year and i still wasnt trolling on skill choices

obsidian valve
# thorny heath

loool, i always do a side-eye every time she says that πŸ™„

vast oriole
#

soundshock is now usable as solo brand sicne its longer duration

thorny heath
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GET on the GOD DAMN terpeion

vast oriole
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but i dont like it

glossy swallow
vast oriole
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i mean spec bard wasnt that bad

obsidian valve
thorny heath
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it was special

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SPECial

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get it

glossy swallow
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Alright.

Accesories

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What do i look for on each accesory as "one high"

obsidian valve
glossy swallow
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brand power i suppose on neck?

or serenade

obsidian valve
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maybe they'll rework it one day KEKW

tender flicker
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High brand prio on neck

glossy swallow
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rings?

obsidian valve
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ally damage me thinks

glossy swallow
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"ally something damagewise not shielding" pepoG

earrings?

thorny heath
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whatever is cheaper

vast oriole
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i would go for mid mid at this point

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so you dont need to change

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for rings

glossy swallow
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i mean this one is not half bad i believe from what i have?

vast oriole
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its giga good

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its high mid

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its like 500k value

thorny heath
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bro running a high mid

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lmao

vast oriole
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whats your name

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i can check your uwu

thorny heath
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he started at 1510 today

glossy swallow
thorny heath
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exactly

vast oriole
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high brand neck, check main stat and be sure its 16k+

thorny heath
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high wp% earrings and you're good

glossy swallow
vast oriole
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also, ah will give you a lot of cp

thorny heath
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enjoy now getting gatekept because you have no title

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LMAO

vast oriole
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at 30 and 40

glossy swallow
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ah?

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Auction house?

thorny heath
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advanced honing

glossy swallow
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ah