lost-ark-help

[inner lintel]

got to r4 lv15 before i ran out of gold

i guess its worth more than honing tho atp

[rose jewel]

Welcome to endgame

[inner lintel]

1700 wall is crazy

[vast oriole]

It is more worth

Its expensive because it was designed to be a gold sink

But it gives a shitton of damage

[rose jewel]

All of this was done way before we even hit close to 1700 back then

[inner lintel]

wait i had pity

that tap is 100% success

aight we gucci

[azure isle]

can i pose npcs in photo mode?

[vast oriole]

Yes

[azure isle]

how

[vast oriole]

Not home, i cant show

[azure isle]

[inner lintel]

is there anything else that i might be missing

[rose jewel]

In what context

[inner lintel]

i dont really know some of these system which is why i didnt have them

[rose jewel]

Well

[inner lintel]

like if u look at my char on bible

[rose jewel]

Arna all yours

[azure isle]

why all arna

[rose jewel]

Coz shes green

[paper walrus]

you're more green than any of us

[shut pasture]

I can fix that for you.

[rose jewel]

I took a bath last week so no I'm not

[shut pasture]

You can be green too.

[rose jewel]

Yeah no I pass

[errant pendant]

do you still get a chance for soul of magma drop if you change channels

[paper walrus]

no

[shut pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/399269-cat-middle-finger-cat-cat-meme-cat-funny-gif-7145826872122606660

[inner lintel]

someone said something about my gems earlier

i forgot

[rose jewel]

If I go green I will be as toxic as y'all

That's a nono

[rose jewel]

What's your ign again

[vast oriole]

Youre re or surge?

[rose jewel]

Nvm arna is here

[inner lintel]

https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Shaked

[inner lintel]

RE

[vast oriole]

Then it doesnt matter

Just make sure you have your correct gems

[inner lintel]

im pretty sure i do

[vast oriole]

Idk if you have the right ones, i dont play db

[paper walrus]

the gems wont matter until you get full 8 cd

[vast oriole]

But make sure you have your surge gem

[paper walrus]

level 8*

db also needs all the wealth runes, check codex for what you're missing

[rose jewel]

You don't have a surge gem

That's a big red flag

[vast oriole]

https://nexus-guide-site.pages.dev/guides/deathblade

[azure isle]

i thought he was the bard one and signum just used arna cuz shes support main or something

[rose jewel]

Your Z skill is the most important and it has a dmg gem

Yet I don't see it in your gem tab

Unless I'm blind or the site is outdated somehow

[inner lintel]

you right about surge gem

[rose jewel]

You may really want to either ask for a skill setup code or give nexus guide a visit

Idk if you can grab one from bible tho haven't toyed with the codes yet myself

[tender flicker]

maelstrom cd should be on a higher lvl gem, should have wealth on twin shadows for standard RE

[azure isle]

codes are universal/convertable he can get one from bible

[inner lintel]

ok i fixed my gems

and i swapped out

optimized training for keen sense

that was also wrong i think

[paper walrus]

you should probably keep 1 optimized

your gems are kinda low

also that bracelet is pain

[inner lintel]

im broke

[rose jewel]

20k for the bracelet chest

Go do your raids

Or life skills

Otherwise tomorrow will be after reset

[paper walrus]

isnt that bracelet chest kinda

dooky

[rose jewel]

Would you rather have THAT or the box ones

[paper walrus]

get hell bracelets

hell is going away this reset so unfortunate

[rose jewel]

Yeah sure, let's just wait some extra weeks for next season shall we

[paper walrus]

it is just buy the 20k bracelet and just

hope

[rose jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-jjk-nicevagg-anime-gif-22368283

[paper walrus]

toxic signum

tfym green is going to make you as toxic as us

[rose jewel]

Wow watch your words

Such toxicity

You went from ugly green to shiny ugly green and immediately went toxic, see what I'm trying to avoid?

[paper walrus]

it was you who corrupted me

[rose jewel]

Such lies

Y'all just showing your true colors

[gray verge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1080027299551924287/1470768145219326141/media-iv-text.gif

[inner lintel]

but it will be replaced anyway no?

might aswell save the 20k gold

[rose jewel]

How long will that take tho

Personal story, my main still doesn't have a good bracelet years after

[inner lintel]

idk but i was told not to buy it because its not that much better and gets replaced anyway

[rose jewel]

And the current one which is barely good* was obtained a couple of months ago

So you do you, 20k is not the end of the world

[inner lintel]

yeah ill see after my raids

what i wanna do

[rose jewel]

And since hell will have some rest time well, even longer

[paper walrus]

i mean yeah just cut a decent bracelet from drops

[rose jewel]

Personally I would buy them, serve as CP boost early on

[paper walrus]

my mains bracelt is still kinda shit

[rose jewel]

Weapon power is good early as well

But again you do you

[paper walrus]

wait does the 20k still at least come with spec

[rose jewel]

Bruh

It has all 3 combination of bracelets, with both stats

Crit swift / crit spec / swift spec

[paper walrus]

dude all i heard was it was shit so i never even bothered to look at it

[rose jewel]

It was shit IF you had a good one already

A new player won't

Especially when the express doesn't give you a decent usable one this time around

And yes, the express gives one, but only on the paid track, not the free one

[faint cedar]

Is the baby blade set up correctly now

I almost had an aneurism looking at the uwu

[rose jewel]

No, it's worse now, go check it

[supple shoal]

i tought im low with my 1.4k cp

at 1700

[rose jewel]

It is

But you have been here much longer

[azure isle]

why are astray crews so much more expensive than everything else

[rose jewel]

Coz it's the fastest ship in the game

Want a shiny fast boat? Pay up

[vast oriole]

asstray

[azure isle]

[inner lintel]

i mean

been playing for less than 2 weeks

[supple shoal]

same

[rose jewel]

But you've been here in the discord asking for much longer than him

You have the advantage of knowledge

[inner lintel]

its not even that bad anymore

[rose jewel]

So yeah unfair advantage

[inner lintel]

and u prolly p2w the premium express accessories

[supple shoal]

yeah thats nice

dw

just park at 1700 and get cp

then hone

thats what im doing

[rose jewel]

Don't hone

Until Moko event is done

Just park

[supple shoal]

in my whole time playing i spent 0 money

[supple shoal]

yh

[rose jewel]

Focus on all the stuff that youre missing

[supple shoal]

i mean

getting reasonable cp and horizontal

takes time

https://lostark.bible/character/CE/Boobaandguns my char

its bad

but not THAT bad

surerly

[azure isle]

bro

3 digits at 1700

[faint cedar]

It says 457

[azure isle]

it is THAT bad

[inner lintel]

it shows his chaos dungeon thing

i mean yeah ur ark passive levels are really high compared to mine

makes sense

[supple shoal]

its 1409 cp

[strong moat]

you're missing enlightenment potions

get them.

[supple shoal]

yeah

go do bloodclaw field boss and una task to get enlightement pots

and north kurzan adventure tome

very good

do things like this for skill potions too

[inner lintel]

yes i know im missing the worst ones

[supple shoal]

im missing just 2 now

got 2

[azure isle]

wanna bet how long itll take him for merchant chart

[supple shoal]

depends how much he checks

[inner lintel]

missing these

[azure isle]

start the una task asap

[supple shoal]

the wisdom isle sp is really easy

[inner lintel]

yeah im already doing the unas

[supple shoal]

just time gated

and the ignea token even i dont have

[azure isle]

you can probably forget about the ignea tokens

rapport sux

[inner lintel]

nah im on it but it takes time

rapport / collectibles pain

[azure isle]

you dont have "enough" silver to care about ignea

nor gold for the collectibles

[supple shoal]

theres a pity for the 6 enlightement pot on field boss

[azure isle]

unless u gonna farm those

[supple shoal]

its like 15

[supple shoal]

[weary oyster]

can u show me north kurzan tome

[inner lintel]

missing 3 rapports there so im prolly gonna skip that one

cba

[candid lake]

the rapports are really ez

[weary oyster]

okeoke

[candid lake]

only 54k each or something

and no quest

[inner lintel]

i dont mind the quests its not even a factor

[candid lake]

north kurzan is one of the easiest adventure tomes

[inner lintel]

i just have other rapports close to done

or done

[weary oyster]

54k what

[candid lake]

rapport

they are REALLY low requirements

stares at thiran needed something like 200k

wait i dont think it even needs 54k each

lemme check

[azure isle]

what

thirain is 103k

[candid lake]

is it ?

[azure isle]

if maxroll isnt misinformationing

[candid lake]

o

[azure isle]

its 1k more than Mari

[candid lake]

doesnt he have an additional like

level?

i forget how much that was

[azure isle]

you dont need it

Affection tier

[candid lake]

north kurzan in total is only 78k rapport points

[azure isle]

tome needs Trusted

which is nice

[candid lake]

which is one of the cheapest rapport points for a whole region

east luterra is a yikes tho for amount of rapport points required..

[inner lintel]

anikka(100%)
rethramis
Yudia
west luterra
tortoyk
shushire
arthetine

all of these are only missing collectibles

[azure isle]

yudia is cheap

[candid lake]

oo

[inner lintel]

i need to choose one more

[candid lake]

oop tho collectable prices are a yikes

[azure isle]

you got procyon?

[inner lintel]

yes ive been farming them cuz of that

[inner lintel]

i dont see that on tome

[azure isle]

elgacia

[inner lintel]

oh

0/6 rapports, i rather die irl tbh

[candid lake]

idk why but the procyon breath is omega exp

[azure isle]

its 17k rn

[candid lake]

oh

[azure isle]

eu

[candid lake]

that is cheaper than i thought

i bought them for like 30k each in na

[azure isle]

40k is insane

[inner lintel]

they really need to buff the drop rate

im suffering

[candid lake]

but yeah the more recent adventure tomes are pretty easy

and dont take long to do

plus the rapports are usuallyqucik in terms of points required and the food items are much quicker than the old regions

cough prenerfed mushrooms, prenerfed snails from rohendel, and oysters from south vern cough

[azure isle]

wait oysters got nerfed?

[candid lake]

or i tihnk they did?

[azure isle]

i was ignoring them for how bad it is

[candid lake]

i forget if they did

but still

fk the oysters

oh you failed, sucks to be you. Gain more experience

[mellow mauve]

kinda

still annoying to do

[candid lake]

and oml the foods that have a set period of time before they like Expire

there was one where u had to get on every 2 hours or something

else it would get rotten and u would have to restart

[livid fossil]

Actually the food that needs prep and has timer lol

[tender flicker]

brisket

[livid fossil]

Good old brisket

[candid lake]

YES

OMFG

[livid fossil]

Better not be working or sucks to be you go Andy make it again

[azure isle]

how do i get relic shovels and stuff

the toolbox tooltip for source says excavating but i only get purple ones

[supple shoal]

droprate?

ill go farm that

[lavish mortar]

Crafting with toolkits you get from excavating

[supple shoal]

for 40k

[lavish mortar]

Or go buy off ah

[azure isle]

lower than the odds of pulling a 5* in genshin

[azure isle]

[supple shoal]

i pulled like 20 in wuwa

bring it on

thats 800k

[azure isle]

but how do i get higher than purple toolboxes

[lavish mortar]

Get luckier

[coarse vigil]

when do paradise/tfm leaderboards lock? when servers go down, or before that?

[azure isle]

ah

[supple shoal]

i go sleepge

or deadge

tmrw i wake up at 5

to go study for a test i have at 7

[tender flicker]

Waking up early to cram for a test never worked out well for me

[candid lake]

same

i usually like to

rewrite all my notes and the important parts

into like a condensed form

and study that

[still prairie]

I'm new and started on a Powerpass character, what do I do daily/weekly other than Chaos Dungeons and Solo raids?

[shadow pasture]

paradise would be another weekly once the season starts again

[mellow mauve]

before that

[lavish mortar]

Daily: adventure islands, chaos gate/field boss, chaos dungeon/kurzan front, guardian raids
Weekly: raids(solo or group), buying out a bunch of different shops, waymark missions, paradise (starting in a week),

[still prairie]

Guess ill figure out what that is later

[dark sable]

Season 3 paradise will be released tomorrow or there will be a 1 week without paradise at all?

[lavish mortar]

1 week gap

[coarse vigil]

should be 1 week downtime again

[still prairie]

Thanks! What about those events that pop up in the top left of the UI? Those are field bosses?

[lavish mortar]

Yea

[shadow pasture]

do those as well

[lavish mortar]

Well, Sevek Atun is

[shadow pasture]

wednesday we wont have one tho

[lavish mortar]

The other ones used to be, but now are just available every hour to farm for horizontal

[shadow pasture]

you can also do life skilling like logging when you have spare time

good amount of gold made from doing it

[still prairie]

I'm just trying to figure out what to do since there is like 100 systems lol

[lavish mortar]

Oh right life skills

Forgot about those

[worthy iron]

Learn them, one system at a time, you got a lot question just ask here

[inland pebble]

Anything recommended to spend blue crystals on to get gold in return? only direct thing seems like life energy pots

[still prairie]

The powerpass gives you +10 gear right away , do i need to hone that gear or is there another set i go for first?

[shadow pasture]

just hone that gear

[inland pebble]

If you're 1640 then you need to hone that gear

[lavish mortar]

Life skill pots mostly
Sometimes a strong hold item is worth it (for crafting fusion materials)

[still prairie]

Sweet, I probably should have done that earlier

Solo raid kicked my ass

[lavish mortar]

?progression

[buoyant dock]

Jump to Gear Progression Steps: #lost-ark-help message

[inland pebble]

is there a modern/up to date thing for how much crafting cost reduction I should have? I think some furniture/outfits might not be available anymore

[lavish mortar]

Only 1 structure isn't available I think?

[candid lake]

the snow cannon thingy

was temporarily available structure

#bringbacksnowcannon

[inland pebble]

right now I have this

[lavish mortar]

Agreed my honing addiction needs it

[still prairie]

Thanks this is perfect

[lavish mortar]

Ummm I think kap is like 17% without cannon?

Im not home or id check... sorry :c

[still prairie]

Is gearing up in this game super rng heavy or more so just timegated?

[inland pebble]

time gated

or wallet gated

[still prairie]

Perfect

Not perfect

[lavish mortar]

Both

[inland pebble]

it's basically time but you can spend money to somewhat speed it up if desired

[still prairie]

As long as I can do most content without opening my wallet

I prefer that for costumes

[lavish mortar]

You can, but dont expect to be at latest content soon

[inland pebble]

you can, just maybe not the pinnacle high difficulty content without playing for quite some time

[lavish mortar]

That'll take awhile

[still prairie]

No problems with that. I been midgame in Maplestory for 2 years

[inland pebble]

definitely less time than maplestory

[candid lake]

if u do spend, i highly recommend the 15 dollar usd ark passes

they are really efficient

although not necessary

[inland pebble]

maplestory is the king of all time vacuums

[candid lake]

wym

u dont like spending 8 hours a day?

[still prairie]

Is your pfp a Rappy from pso2?

[inland pebble]

[lavish mortar]

Yea then you can just hangout and do solo raids here and be content

Currently all but our latest 2 (soon all but 3 in april) raids have a solo mode

[still prairie]

I saw people have like 20+ chars but I thought you only made gold on 6? Is there another reason you make alot of alts other than for fun

Like progression wise

[lavish mortar]

Just 4fun

[mellow mauve]

more character = more playtime

[lavish mortar]

Even more than 1 char is just 4fun

[mellow mauve]

you only generate roster bound/tradeable gold from 6 gold earner characters

[inland pebble]

there are some things you can get other than gold past 6 characters but it's extremely inefficient timewise... and will likely cost materials/gold/silver to play those characters

so mostly for fun

there are people that make alt accounts to get more gold but that has a roster of issues

[still prairie]

I see I see

How do I get that gold to be tradable? Like rn I have 32k but most of it is account-bound

Is this where the wallet part comes in

[inland pebble]

do raids, sell items

[lavish mortar]

Group raids give tradable gold

Thats the main source

?gold

[buoyant dock]

Gold Sources

Click here for list of gold and mats from raids & dungeons

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

• Legion Commander Raids
• Kazeros Raids
• Abyssal Dungeons
• Adventure Island Gold Reward
• Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
• Life Skills
• Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
• Content Bids
• Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)

Roster Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

• Chaos Gates
• Mokoko Express Event
• Solo Mode Raids

Character Bound Gold

Same as Bound Gold, but per character

• Seasonal Rewards from Paradise Crucible
• Paradise Hell Chests
• Certain Legion raids, Kazeros raids, Epic raids partial gold is bound
• Abyssal Dungeons partial gold is bound

* Withheld gold is restricted from Auction/Market/Trading for 3 days.

[mellow mauve]

running non-solo mode raids, gold fate embers, and gold islands

[livid fossil]

Q I don’t remember this double dungeon bright moon forest and the other one in origin island. Do I need both and does it matter what I pick

[still prairie]

Oh damn okay

[mellow mauve]

once you have tradeable gold, you can sell stuff for gold

[still prairie]

Thanks alot for the info

[lavish mortar]

Lots of commands pinned here as well with tons more info

[still prairie]

I was under the impression people dont group raid unless its the newest content

[mellow mauve]

the highest 5-6 raids are still ran in groups

[inland pebble]

people do group raids for all content besides old irrelevant stuff

[livid fossil]

Raid you. Can get into as group would be Brel mordumb and up

[mellow mauve]

past that, most are just ran solo modes cause people don't party find them as much

[still prairie]

The raids seem pretty intense mechanic wise. I was trying solo Akkan and there was like 5 gimmicks in that alone. They get even harder?

[mellow mauve]

yeah

[still prairie]

I figured that i just wasnt too sure

[mellow mauve]

akkan is also giga nerfed in solo mode mech wise

[lavish mortar]

Harder and more fun

[strong moat]

he's missing 80% of his mechs

[still prairie]

Thank God I got through to the final part and quit when I saw ANOTHER gimmick to get thru

Ill learn the easier stuff first

Im too new

[mellow mauve]

just comes down to needing the time and experience

[still prairie]

Also Sorc maybe wasnt the best class to start

[mellow mauve]

class doesn't really matter

[still prairie]

Cast times and stuff

[mellow mauve]

play what you enjoy

[vast oriole]

Sorc isnt that hard

Play reflux if you find igniter hard

[mellow mauve]

you're also just missing horizontal that improve gameplay

wealth runes, galewinds, spec potions, etc etc

[still prairie]

Im on reflux yeah. Shes enjoyable just that im getting used to the game still. Im more of a melee enjoyer but I liked her skills

[rose jewel]

Spec pet most likely, engravings, atk speed and the like

[still prairie]

True I have no idea what these are

[lavish mortar]

?quickstart

[buoyant dock]

Quickstart Info

So you just powerpassed?

1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
2. Skills (K Menu)
3. Skill Runes
4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
7. Dismantle settings here

---

8. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
9. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
10. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

---

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

[vast oriole]

Ranged is fake in this game btw

Even ranged classes prefers to play melee

[lavish mortar]

Id suggest going through these steps

[rose jewel]

Some classes are just scuffed when you're starting the game out, you will lack a lot that makes your class play correctly*, so switching to reflux style will make your life easier by a long shot

[still prairie]

I noticed in solos raids you cant really sit at a distance or anything

Always on the move or close to boss

[rose jewel]

But still will kind of struggle even on an easy class, coz the game ain't easy

[vast oriole]

Yep its true

[rose jewel]

People (either dumb or veterans, or both) tell newbies game's free, no it isn't

[vast oriole]

But reflux wants to be close to the boss

[mellow mauve]

there's only 1 target for the boss to agro in solo mode

[rose jewel]

Takes a while to get used to everything at once

[lavish mortar]

Only games I've played that are harder are elden ring and sekiro tbh

This game is very rough when you start out

[still prairie]

I find those games easy but I struggle hard with some KRMMOs

[lavish mortar]

Well rn youre basicsllt doing elder ring with starter weapon and no buffs/upgrades

[still prairie]

Lmaoo

[lavish mortar]

Youre missing a lot of power from horizontal

[still prairie]

Im used to it. I played every other KRMMO atp

I regret the money ive spent on Elsword and Maplestory over the years

[rose jewel]

Elsword

[candid lake]

relatable to elsword

[rose jewel]

How's the current state of it

Played it like a decade ago

[candid lake]

terrible

so much money grabbing

[still prairie]

Dont

[candid lake]

gotta +11 so much shit over and over

like holy shit

im glad we dont have to hone weapons in this game from 0

[rose jewel]

Otherwise unplayable?

Like dmg dealt to boss not enuf

[candid lake]

imagine upgrading from aegir gear to serca gear

and having to hone it from + 0

no transfering allowed

[rose jewel]

Don't the weapons break as well or something

[candid lake]

u cant dps until you're decently funded and forced to play support in my experience

[vast oriole]

I have ptsd pls no

[candid lake]

or be a good synergy

[rose jewel]

Or at least they are unusable then gotta buy. As roll to fux

[still prairie]

Awful community, awful monetization, awful rng, expensive, timegated, and the game changes too much between balance patches so your main can be good one patch and bad the next

[rose jewel]

I played RO for like 8 years so

[still prairie]

I Uninstalled it last week

[candid lake]

and omfg erp farming

gotta get another page for erp farming

[paper walrus]

erp...

[candid lake]

used it awhile ago on a char i hate now and gotta use 27 dollars to fix it

[still prairie]

You get a free page on your first char only and they just dont tell u

So yea 27 dollars if you didnt make your first character your main

[candid lake]

i used it on innocent and now i dont like inno

feelsbadman

[still prairie]

Oh yeah LuCiel is just bad rn its funny

Other than the support job

[candid lake]

i cannot imagine tho how bad erp farming is for a new player iwthout erp boost to 200 and the 3x event for below 350

like holy shit

erp is basically just like levels past regular level capping @paper walrus

that u can invest into various stats

[still prairie]

Theres a 4x event until 350 and its still too slow.

Easily 10 dungeon runs per level up

Maybe

[candid lake]

i was grinding trosh and a full stam bar didnt givem e back

[rose jewel]

And dungeons late in the game are massive I assume

The last one I remember (there were more but I stopped around there) was a big ass lady with a scythe

[candid lake]

you know what made me wanna kms @still prairie gold palace taking me 8 minutes to solo

that boss is so fuckign annoying

[candid lake]

karis

kekw

[rose jewel]

Or the scythe was massive idr

[still prairie]

Hmm nah most dungeons are like 5 mins long its just your damage is uh

Bad

For a long time

Unless you whale or play with a party

[candid lake]

and now sups will prob have to be funded... @still prairie

[rose jewel]

So gotta farm a million dungeons before raiding and not be a dead weight

[candid lake]

since they will do dmg now

and the normalization of all sups

[candid lake]

or just play a support til it's normalized

kekw

[rose jewel]

[still prairie]

So not only is it a dying game but ur forced to make 3 friends to play with or find a whale friend

Good luck to either

[candid lake]

and the game is just mostly potion spamming and spamming skills

[rose jewel]

I mean not much dif. From here but at least solo raids are cool here

I stopped coz my hand was getting hurt from too much dash spam

[still prairie]

Theyre being uniformed, so there will be less differences between supports and also simultaneously nerfing them because support skills wont stack with other support players

Dumbest fucking move

[candid lake]

rip to the chars that need the cd acceleration tho

[still prairie]

How do supports work in LA? Is there one support per party?

[candid lake]

ye

[rose jewel]

3/1

3 DPS 1 sup

Raids are either 4/8/16man

Only one 16 exists tho and it's a piñata

[candid lake]

its kinda like elsword where they have a sage set too

that buffs the party

[azure isle]

16 is crazy

[still prairie]

Ah okay

[candid lake]

they also dont do dmg

[still prairie]

In Elsword supports do damage funny enough

Some of them did too much

[candid lake]

although they do have a dps build

[still prairie]

Like Deus

[candid lake]

actually?

[azure isle]

even ffxiv supports are obligated to do damage

[rose jewel]

Sups are meant to shield and amplify dmg, if they heal they are either bad or their group is very bad

[candid lake]

although i do remember surya does okay dmg tho, right?

[still prairie]

Deus is nuts

[azure isle]

la sups are lackluster

[still prairie]

No pun intended there

[still prairie]

From what I was told shes mid now

But idk I never played her

[rose jewel]

A sup doing supporting is like 0.3% of the total boss hp

[candid lake]

i hate how most of her bossing is her secret arts

[rose jewel]

But they can go full DPS if they want

[candid lake]

tryna do berthe solo mode was a pain in my ass

[still prairie]

Are supports rare then..?

[rose jewel]

Uhh not really

[still prairie]

Or does everyone just have one to get into parties

[rose jewel]

It's kind of weird

[candid lake]

not necessarily

some people have 0 sups in their roster, some people have rosters full of sups

[rose jewel]

Some times there are a shortage in some item level brackets, some times there is an extreme surplus of them

[vast oriole]

[rose jewel]

Usually when classes are released

In the past we had a very very bad shortage of them, nowadays it's kind of stable in some way or another

Your call if you wanna make one or not, but if you don't really enjoy supporting in other games please don't do one here, sups are extremely overpowered and a bad support is worse than a bad dps

[strong moat]

factually incorrect

[azure isle]

funny theyre overpowered but the line between a good and a bad one is so thin

[strong moat]

there is no surplus of supports

[still prairie]

Idk if you ever played Maplestory but I main a Lynn in that game. Shes a support

But shes also got good DPS

So not the same as it works in LA but I have played support

In mmos

[rose jewel]

Yeah supports don't do that here, not at the same time

You either go full sup or full dps

[vast oriole]

Na has a supp shortage, eu isnt in that case

Btw

[still prairie]

The problem with supp in other games is they usually require more knowledge than the dps

Which makes them worse for newbs

Like me

[vast oriole]

Its kinda the case in loa

Depending the raid

But most supports are shit in this game

[inner lintel]

lynn abuser spotted

[still prairie]

Caught

[rose jewel]

Those numbers don't show the times where there were 30 lobbies lf sup for a couple months, like, it's not all "just see number you wrong", you have to go to the game to get the feeling

[still prairie]

[azure isle]

thats how these guys told me not to play support ignoring the fact that if i cant play it then i cant get better at it

[rose jewel]

Also na and eu are different

[strong moat]

my feeling is that there is an overall support shortage

[rose jewel]

See: arna

[strong moat]

if we're going by that metric

[rose jewel]

I mean yes it's an MMO, it's a classic thing since forever

[tender flicker]

[lavish mortar]

vod review other people to learn

[rose jewel]

But sometimes there are a lot of godam dpses and not a lot of sups due to people switching roles to the new shiny class

[vast oriole]

I play supp and i would be happy if there was a supp shortage

But theres not

[rose jewel]

I don't think the graphic shows that as well

[azure isle]

im not that type of learner

[rose jewel]

But also that

[still prairie]

Probably because pubs are like a total gamble on if theyre gonna get mad if youre still learning or not

[azure isle]

which is sad

[rose jewel]

The graphic shows the numbers, but not the whole spectrum

[still prairie]

With friends you can usually play anything in any mmo

[lavish mortar]

Its not a gamble
They 100% will get mad

[azure isle]

whether ur good or not support is always to blame anyway

[rose jewel]

Lol, no

[strong moat]

well we have black on white that there is a GLOBAL support shortage i wish you could differentiate between EU/NA

[still prairie]

True..

Who am I kidding

[rose jewel]

If the sup is good and the DPS is a total dumbass, the sup calls them out

I do at least

I'm not gonna heal spam an idiot if the other 2 are doing dmg

[azure isle]

they have every right to do so

[still prairie]

Is this Overwatch

[candid lake]

@still prairie ngl tho im glad it's not like maple where u gotta coordinate bursts every 2 mins or w/e

[still prairie]

[tender flicker]

people tend to get upset with support if anyone. You can carry a bad dps, harder either a bad support.

[azure isle]

its not hard to press random buttons to do dps

[still prairie]

Its not even that bad anymore unless its endgame endgame content

In pubs everyone just dumps their whole kit onto a boss

Repeat

[candid lake]

true

[rose jewel]

And will always have, but yes we don't have a specific tool to take data on ccu and to look at lobbies on X or Y raid to check which one has shortage and which doesn't, region ecosystems are also at play

[still prairie]

And in MS you have to wait a year to get that late in anyway unless u grind like a monster

By then everything changes

For certain bosses

[rose jewel]

Stuff changes a lot overtime and can at anytime

[strong moat]

well we do have data on what global % has supports for what ilvl bracket

just not for each region

[still prairie]

I chose reflux Sorc partly for this reason

[candid lake]

only if we had one for each patch @strong moat

[still prairie]

No strict rotation

[candid lake]

[azure isle]

atleast the shortage isnt as bad as when bard was the only support

[rose jewel]

Yeah but we need to take into consideration groups, or in this case sups, that never pug, only do static runs, so those are out

So yeah no data, just game feeling

[candid lake]

wym, we had pally

or i mean na

do you mean kr?

[azure isle]

bro who plays that shit

[candid lake]

???

[rose jewel]

I do

Like what

Bard sucks fuck bard

I dropped her

[tender flicker]

Lot of people

[still prairie]

I thought Pally did damage ngl

[candid lake]

old bard had so many fucking issues

[still prairie]

That dude is a supp?

[rose jewel]

And even if I hate pala he doesn't destroy my fingers

[azure isle]

paladin is just inferior valkyrie

m*n

[candid lake]

woah

chil lthe fuck out

😠

[rose jewel]

Fuck bard

[still prairie]

Wouldn't Valk be just Pally 2.0

[azure isle]

nah

[still prairie]

I know she came after

[vast oriole]

Yes and no

[azure isle]

better personality

[vast oriole]

Her support is same ish

Dps isnt same

[rose jewel]

Gender unlocked

[vast oriole]

Shes actually a good dps

[still prairie]

It was rlly hard choosing a character to powerpass

Everyone seems fun

[rose jewel]

But since valk is newer, she got a lot of qol lacking in old chara

[azure isle]

gender unlock except she does more damage

holy sword :praygi

[candid lake]

ok? valk was designed with a dps spec in mind

pally was not

[rose jewel]

Lot of stuff to take into consideration

[still prairie]

Will they do revamps?

Or is no one that outdated yet

[candid lake]

they do

constnatly

[still prairie]

Ah cool

[azure isle]

2 classes getting rework soon

[candid lake]

kr just got a dps paladin, demonic impulse shadow hunter

[rose jewel]

They do a lot of number tweaks and some reworks here and there

[candid lake]

and legacy evolution scouter revamp

[vast oriole]

And evo scouter

[candid lake]

3

[azure isle]

who 3rd

[rose jewel]

So the meta** constantly changes

[candid lake]

paladin

[azure isle]

yea 2

[candid lake]

di sh and evo scouter

[rose jewel]

Except for a few enlightened kids

[candid lake]

???

?misinfo

[rose jewel]

Which are like the favorites

[buoyant dock]

Spreading Misinformation is against the rules!

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[still prairie]

Lmao

[rose jewel]

Arcana, death blade are the first ones to come to mind

[azure isle]

[candid lake]

that one breaker spec

is doing so well rn

i forget the name

[rose jewel]

Burger kong

[candid lake]

they finally feel loved

[shadow pasture]

burger king

[candid lake]

after being neglected in t4

LMAO

[still prairie]

I was very close to picking Shadow Hunter

[tender flicker]

I don’t think dbs are that great atm

[still prairie]

Like extremely close

But i thought in my head she would be too hard

[candid lake]

ye re is kinda mid tier rn from what i see

feelsbadman

di sh is not too hard actually!

[shadow pasture]

shadow hunter is a good newbie class

and even better with rework

[candid lake]

@azure isle ngl tho

[azure isle]

hi

[candid lake]

the one problem i have with valk sup is their attack skill sounds

i just dont like them

[still prairie]

Next powerpass I guess

[candid lake]

they dont feel impactful in my opinion

[tender flicker]

Yeah, I think I get a good run in my RE and notice my reflux does more

[candid lake]

but her dps sounds are satisfying

[azure isle]

hmm

[shadow pasture]

you can make her rn and slowly level her up

honing to 1640 cost 0 gold

[azure isle]

you mean the 2 red skills you have

[candid lake]

and her buff skills

[azure isle]

i like the rain sounds

but the other red skill is just bad

[candid lake]

ori mean her ap buff

[azure isle]

leap and oath are deadge

no sound wouldve been better

[candid lake]

and why df did they darken her skill icons?

like bruh

[azure isle]

idk about that

[tender flicker]

Idk why they removed 1585 hell after reworking story and t3 honing

[azure isle]

i only know her current skills

[still prairie]

I played this game for like a week a couple years ago but have like 4 chars sitting at level 50 .. I know for sure I did not level them naturally

Can you buy passes

I probably did that lol

[candid lake]

u get some for free @still prairie

from events

[still prairie]

Oh okay

[candid lake]

and before, after u got to level 50 the first time, u got another level 50 for free

[tender flicker]

Yeah, it costs less the more story the character has done

[candid lake]

but that was awhile ago

[faint cedar]

There’s a waymark journey thing on top right that gives char exp

[still prairie]

The only char I naturally leveled was Slayer and I quit when I saw the endgame LOL

Im having fun with chaos dungeons and solo raids tho

Rn

[faint cedar]

Chaos dungeon…. Fun…

[still prairie]

Im a huge Diablo fan

I got the plats for D3 and D4

So this feels like Diablo but korean

[faint cedar]

All d4 did was burn a hole in my pocket

Shame what they did

[still prairie]

I do prefer D3

But D4 is actually good now

Only took them like 2 years to fix it

And next expansion is bringing even more systems from D3 into D4

If that tickles ur fancy

[still prairie]

I read up on it a bit cuz I couldn't remember how long it took to level a character and people said 25 hours to cap

So I thought I should just wait

For a pass

[tender flicker]

North kurzan Vern knowledge transfer takes you to lvl 50 for like 800g

[rose jewel]

Kurzan?

[tender flicker]

…Vern

[still prairie]

Im not home so i cant look myself rn

[rose jewel]

And it's 600

[tender flicker]

Same difference

[still prairie]

So basically no one levels chars from level 1 anymore

[rose jewel]

Misinfo :<

Yes they do

Either manual or knowledge transfer

Or if you got cash just buy a rimeria

Saves you gold and time

[tender flicker]

You can if you are a story enjoyer, but generally speaking not really

[still prairie]

Yea im thinking about trying Shadow Hunter or something instead

Before I invest too far into Sorc

[rose jewel]

Depends on your play style preferences

But well, all classes are kinda unique

So

[tender flicker]

Reflux is probably my most comfy dps character, but yeah depends on what you want

[still prairie]

I play a completely different class in each mmo

So yea its random

[rose jewel]

Well fuck

Throw a roulette I guess

[azure isle]

im stuck

[still prairie]

I would love if LA had a class like Witch from DFO

[tender flicker]

Ngl the class tester kinda sucks

[still prairie]

Random bullshit go

[rose jewel]

Stepbro here I'll help

[still prairie]

It doesnt let you change skills i think, or at least i couldn't get it to

[azure isle]

the title is not tipsy in game
i didnt get the green item

[rose jewel]

I won't help fuck horizontals

[azure isle]

there is nothing to interact

[azure isle]

[tender flicker]

Even if you could, it’s not representative of having karma or ark grid done (end game systems that can change class play style significantly)

[azure isle]

halp

[still prairie]

I see im not even ankle deep in these systems yet

I watched that one guys 2 hour long guide on LA

Still wasnt enough lol

[livid fossil]

Do you even have 48 masterpiece

[azure isle]

you are so smart

however not smart enough to notice i wouldnt be able to accept the quest if i didnt have the masterpieces

[livid fossil]

Thanks boss

Then I dfk

[lavish mortar]

Show your current title?

[azure isle]

i search Tipsy it shows Buzzed

[lavish mortar]

Buzzed did it get changed wtf

[azure isle]

ye apparently

the achievement awards Buzzed

[lavish mortar]

Maybe they never fixed quest after changing it

[azure isle]

aintnoway

im going to the shadowmoon market

if there is no quest

[lavish mortar]

Wonder why its even censored tho

[azure isle]

i mad

[tender flicker]

What’s that play like? Not familiar with dfo.

[still prairie]

The class is based on classic Witch fairy tale type stuff but with some silly shenanigans. Summons, candy, comically sized weapons, inventions, witch brooms

Its pretty random but its a fun class

Also kinda OP in that game specifically

[azure isle]

this game is stupid

is this the only level i need to do to get the scenes

[paper walrus]

max it anyway

do your tokens

[azure isle]

i only need trusted for token

[paper walrus]

skill issue

are you sure you finished everything on sunflower

no extra quests accepted on another character

[azure isle]

i did that quest

but the game

for some reason

showed the next quest on the map but didnt ping it when i click rotate

and maxroll is vague

so i had no clue where the 2nd quest was

also none of this needed title

i saw and accepted that first quest with No Shot title

[bold geyser]

...wait does special meter bonuses actually do anything for GS in crucible

[lavish mortar]

Gs? Nope

[bold geyser]

awk

[tender flicker]

Do resonance effects in paradise proc in a predetermined order or is it random save for resets?

[faint cedar]

Im not sure I fully understand the ask but the “time” category under resonance should be relative to how long it takes to activate

[tender flicker]

I'm kinda stuck with a censer with electrocute on humidity for -magic res% when I want my chalice to proc frostburst on humidity for -phys res%. Just wondering if it was rng enough that if I bash my head into this crucible boss for long enough, I can get it to proc favorably.

Or if they will just proc in a fixed order

[dark sable]

Whats the best to buy with pity core essence ? Upgrading order core from leg to relic or getting a chaos relic core(i currently have 3 order core 1relic 2leg and 0 chaos) if chaos, the best to get first is the flat atk power stats right?

[shy chasm]

If you have leg moon for your class/spec you wanna play core get relic sun core for your class/spec and if you have leg sun core I think its ok to get relic moon core but ask your class channel regardless

[candid lake]

which class ru

because it really depends

some classes really need the moon core at relic such as like igniter triple doomsday

[dark sable]

Gk 333 dr i have relic sun

And leg moon and star

[shy chasm]

Ye id ask class channel

[dark sable]

Class Channel is ded rn xd

[shy chasm]

Wait ig

[candid lake]

what percent of your dmg is quake smash?

[dark sable]

19-20% approx on guardian

On raid its more 25% approx

[candid lake]

quake smash is increased by 15% for relic 17 star

while 17 p on moon for 333 is 4% increase in z

🤔

[lucid axle]

can be all leg

relic is just more dmg

oh wait asking which relic to get first

probably sun i’d assume

I CANT READ

[dark sable]

Star seems the best to go for first

[lucid axle]

HE HAS SUN

[dark sable]

Xd i was asking myself if i was too tired or if u were drunk

[lucid axle]

there seems to be no dps distribution for 333

if we just look at the pre ark grid version quake is doing around 19%~ dmg

[dark sable]

Chaos core rlly give a good upgrade cp/dps or trash tier?

[lucid axle]

i’d just say go moon

better cp increase too

[astral root]

Most classes can somewhat flex chaos cores too

[dark sable]

Would’ve said star is a bit better no?

[astral root]

Not all classes can flex which red cores they can use

So it's harder to get lucky for order but a bit more workable for chaos

[dark sable]

15% increase on quake smash that is 25% of my dps vs 4% on 70% of my dps

[dark sable]

Yh Thats true

[astral root]

Imo I would just hold if you're still getting into raids

Especially if you're trying to hit 6 x 17

[dark sable]

2.1k cp is enought to get in act 5 nm?

[astral root]

For serca

[lucid axle]

for sure

[dark sable]

Ok i will eco for now

[astral root]

But for kaz HM you might want to find hookups from a juicer friends or something

[lucid axle]

why 70% aren’t you only throwing dmg in trans?

[dark sable]

Other damages than my 4 boosted spells

[astral root]

If you're just losing damage and not functionality I would just hold

[dark sable]

Ill get 1710 with tomorrow shards so I have Time for 1730 xd

[lucid axle]

ok well yeah i wouldn’t rush if its just small dmg gains

if you’re are just hitting 1710 ur fine

2.1k CP is good enough

[dark sable]

As long as I can start farming Kaz nm to get 2x my weekly core income idc

[astral root]

2.1 is plenty fine for nm

[lucid axle]

yeah my alts 2.2 and i don’t get gatekept at all

[dark sable]

Whats the min for nm?

[lucid axle]

i doubt 2.1 will have much trouble

[astral root]

Unless you look jail for other reasons or are applying for juicer parties

Imo min is around 2k

You might wanna start looking into prog parties to get archdemon title

[dark sable]

Ill Watch guide and cheat sheet before tagging so I wont be a burden xd

[lucid axle]

always aim for Q3 if you want insta accepts but being average CP can still find parties and clear fine

[astral root]

G1 the biggest thing isnt mechanics it's all the bs normal patterns

[dark sable]

Its the 1x clear or 10x clear title?

[astral root]

1x

G2 NM clear

[dark sable]

I have 4hours tmrw morning to learn the raid before searching for a party

[dark sable]

Oh the title gives the juicy mount

[astral root]

I mean I think normal is imposterable

[lucid axle]

idk about that

there are some mechs where you at least should know what the norm is

if you don’t stack during the stagger you’ll just knock a bunch of ppl in the air

unless you die before that lol

for g2

[astral root]

It's just a matter of watching a vid

And just understanding if you're stacking front or back

[dark sable]

Im built different dude

[astral root]

And I'd gatekeep ppl who dont have archdemon at this point but EU might be different

[lucid axle]

i notice some parties don’t have to say i just have to follow them

[astral root]

Some parties its implied because you have all back attackers or some bs

[dark sable]

[lucid axle]

some just like stacking in front for the insta clash

[astral root]

Idk stagger is pretty easy

I just stack side

[dark sable]

Stopped playing when kaz got out cuz i expressed a char I didnt like then came back to the game with gk release

[astral root]

Cuz GS ping pongs everywhere

It's also a relative non-issue since we're getting the nerf after the 11th

[lucid axle]

all my characters are melee ranged so i can’t

[astral root]

It's easy to see where ppl stack imo

[lucid axle]

yeah coming into the game blind it’s a bit hard to tell what you would like

glad you found one though

[astral root]

I also honestly think g1 nm is harder than g2

[bold geyser]

SAME

[lucid axle]

once you get the hang of it yeah it’s pretty brain off

[dark sable]

lots of raid is the same all mech are in g1 then g2 is head roll to kill

[lucid axle]

HM though is something else though

[dark sable]

omg chat i might be dumb asf

forgot to get that shit to 14 to activate sun effects xd

[lone hamlet]

hi guys

is today the last day to run hell on paradise?

[lavish mortar]

Yeah

[lone hamlet]

ohh...

thts gona be a lot of work...

thanks!!

[bold geyser]

yeah i learned last season not to put it off

good luck!

[lone hamlet]

is the priority gold fusion and special enhancement?

[bold geyser]

for one character?

what item level?

[lone hamlet]

for like 1680 ~ 1700..

[bold geyser]

for T4 my vote is speical > fusion >> gold

for T3 its probably reverse of taht

[lone hamlet]

ok... thanks!!

[bold geyser]

bracelet and accs are good if you dont have any

but i wouldn't take them over special, nor fusions if you're out

[lone hamlet]

when is the next paradise is there a long break? 🙁

[lavish mortar]

3/11 is next season

[bold geyser]

so first keys on 3/18

(discounting any one-time freebies they give)

[lone hamlet]

oh its fast..

also is it worth switching cube coupons with hell keys?

i feel tht it isn't but not sure... in terms of value..

[lavish mortar]

Blue keys are okay value to trade

Just depends if you wanna gamble on hell, or get consistent value from cube

[lone hamlet]

ohhh tht makes sense..

[bold geyser]

on average trading for oranges is a bad deal

[lone hamlet]

does anyone know wht altar of hell is and how to use it? 😮

[livid fossil]

Altar either upgrade down grade or give fire ice keys

You put a key in there and it either is upgraded or down graded

Or fire or ice

Aka frost

[lone hamlet]

wht do the fire or ice keys doo?

does it have more descents more than the yellow keys?

[vast oriole]

No

And you can die and get no rewards

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/paradise-guide

[livid fossil]

TLDR is if you get fire key you want the opposite when you land

So if hit fire your toast

You get 1 revive and the next time you die you get nothing

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[bold geyser]

but the loot table once you get into floor 10+ is comparable to a hell key 40ish levels higher

and has some extra stuff that normal hell doesn't have like cards and bound books

i always try to keep keys on me and use the lowest keys i have

just because its way more likely to have to end the run early in the nether and then it doesn't matter whether its a blue key or an orange

[wet dagger]

is it better to use selectors on earth 30 or fire 30, i have both at 24

[upbeat mulch]

is there no current event that gives a set of usable t4 ancient accessories this time? do i have to buy them from the gold shop?

[balmy plank]

The premium path of the express event gives a good set. Or you can buy a set from the growth shop

[livid fossil]

Gold shop or ah unless you got keys for hell not sure waymark mission gives some

[upbeat mulch]

ah thats where they moved it to, thx

[split kayak]

waymark does give

mid/0

[livid fossil]

It’s better than nothing

[lavish mortar]

Neither
Wait to do both at once

Not like mordor or armoche are difficult enough to necessitate 30 set

[wet dagger]

do you know what set we need for the new raid

serca or whatever

[split kayak]

i think new gr has weak to dark, but it's gr so ye