lost-ark-help

[bold ibex]

yup its the inherited will quest

[tender flicker]

yeah don't worry about that, we'll get more msq progression later

[bold ibex]

oh alright, okay ill just work on the other things u listed. Thanks

[tender flicker]

?quickstart

[buoyant dock]

Quickstart Info

So you just powerpassed?

1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
2. Skills (K Menu)
3. Skill Runes
4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
7. Dismantle settings here

---

8. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
9. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
10. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

---

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

[tender flicker]

Some more info to get you started

[bold ibex]

how complicated is the whole stronghold thing, and how do i start "doing" it

seems pretty important

how do i fix this or must i do the quest on THAT character?

[hearty kraken]

you either do the quest on the other character or you give up the quest on that other character and accept it with this one

[bold ibex]

got it, and any tips for the challenge express valtan solo? hes unbelievably tanky and i straight up just got bored and left midway

[steel goblet]

i did a lot of the earlier raids then watched a video

then i setup my spec using nexus lost ark

and i 1 shot it

[livid fossil]

It means you have it on another character

[bold ibex]

i was at minute 15 and he still had like 89x hp left i just gave up

[steel goblet]

o wow wth

[livid fossil]

lol

[steel goblet]

are you breaking his armor properly in phase 1 O.o

[bold ibex]

i think..?

[livid fossil]

Did he go bezerk and gain health

[bold ibex]

yea thats about when i gave up

[steel goblet]

ye i think my first kill was around 5 minutes as a shinning blade valk

[bold ibex]

how im the same class

[steel goblet]

did you get the build from nexus?

[bold ibex]

what am i doing wrong lol

[steel goblet]

or maxroll

[bold ibex]

yeah but i havent completed it i need more points

i am working on it tho

[steel goblet]

are you pressing buttons on cd

also i think i fnished the arkesia tour b4 i did anything from that

which gives you a heap of skill relic things and a heap of skill pots

[bold ibex]

oh fr, okay im on the last page of it ill finish it first then

[steel goblet]

but ye i had a heap of trouble on kayangel because i had no idea that shadows actually protect you

which is the next one

[bold ibex]

How did u go about killing valtan tho

[vast oriole]

Did you watch any guide?

[bold ibex]

i cant find a guide for express challenge valtan but i beat him finally

[vast oriole]

Make sure your gear isnt broken aswell

Oh

Nice!

[bold ibex]

its all about the valtan raid which is not what i was doing

[bold ibex]

yeah...

i didnt realise this lmao

[vast oriole]

Its basically g2 valtan solo but easier

Well that explains a lot xD

[bold ibex]

yeah 😭

[vast oriole]

[steel goblet]

that explains everything 😄

[mellow granite]

the spearfish merchant outside kurzan just randomly has the #5 bloodclaw piece?

not always?

[hearty kraken]

yes

[earnest wasp]

i have a problem, i was in kazeros raid, first gate i got DC. team replaced me from gate 1, raid menu doesnt dhave a tick on neither of the raids. and its been 3 days and i didnt get a raid ticket in mail. googled to submit a ticket says to come here. dunno what to do

[astral root]

?support

[buoyant dock]

Reminder for our new users, we are NOT affiliated with Amazon nor Smilegate. Please stop asking mods for in game support/help.
Contact customer support: https://help.id.amazongames.com/hc/en-us Create a ticket via the AI Chat button bottom right of the page.

Amazon Official Discord: https://discord.gg/playlostark

https://i.imgur.com/VlNTyma.png

[balmy plank]

Use the link above to submit a ticket but its unlikely they will do anything. Support doesnt give out re-rentry tickets. No need to spam every single channel either

[earnest wasp]

thank you so much

[raw heath]

where is valkyrie?

[vast oriole]

Female warrior

[raw heath]

rip i used the pass

can i delete it and get the pass back?

[balmy plank]

No

You only get 1. Youre locked in now

[vast oriole]

Wait 2 weeks for another free one

[raw heath]

rip

can i buy a pass?

[vast oriole]

You have 60$?

[raw heath]

60 ? gg

[vast oriole]

Just wait for the free one

Next time ask question before using it xD

[raw heath]

y

[balmy plank]

Additionally they are 1 use per region. You can power pass a char to play around and quickly check a character 1 time in NA before committing to your main region in EU

[raw heath]

what is the best thing to start with now?

its pretty overwhelming 😄

[balmy plank]

Start with this

?quickstart

[buoyant dock]

Quickstart Info

So you just powerpassed?

1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
2. Skills (K Menu)
3. Skill Runes
4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
7. Dismantle settings here

---

8. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
9. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
10. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

---

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

[balmy plank]

The steps above will help you get your char build refined for tackling content. Arkesia Tour will keep you busy for a couple hours and teach you a bit about navigating the game

[raw heath]

my charakter is level 60 form the boost the recommended build looks good so i start at point 8

and how can i inv friends to my party? 😄

[balmy plank]

The game gives you a solid build to start but I would still go through each step to double check everything. Especially after we just got a big balance patch a couple weeks ago some things might be different

You can party up with people in the overworld if theyre in the same server as you. Just ctrl+right click them and invite to party. U menu is friends list and you can add them there too

Friends are region wide. If theyre on a different server you can still do group content together through party finder

[raw heath]

ok thx

[primal herald]

is mordum gonna get a gate removed anytime soon

[vast oriole]

no idea

just be 1710 and in april, you wont do mordum anymore

[primal herald]

is the solo mode chill?

or does is still take a fk ton

[astral root]

solos pretty chill

[steel goblet]

solo is very chill

[astral root]

just very boring

[steel goblet]

its the easiest solo ive done at the unlock ilvl

1670 brelz raid was intense at 1670

[livid fossil]

Mordom g3. Can you explain lighting tile mech I know to not be on them but do I go back on the one that was hit with lightning

[astral root]

The puddles?

[balmy plank]

Which mech is lightning tile mech?

[livid fossil]

Not puddles

[steel goblet]

blue and yellow

[astral root]

what are you talking about

[primal herald]

once im done with cleaning the mokoko shop

[steel goblet]

in solo mode he throws his hammer up and blue and yellow tiles fill the arena

[livid fossil]

Floor gets light up lighting

[primal herald]

im just gonna limit myself to act4/5 on all chars

and then just solo mordum ig

[livid fossil]

No color

[primal herald]

maybe even solo brelsh

mordum just takes too much time

[livid fossil]

Ball that rotates

[primal herald]

feels like such a waste

[steel goblet]

o dont stand in the ball

[vast oriole]

was always chill

[balmy plank]

There is multiple times the floor lights up.
What healthbar mech is it listen here?
https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/kazeros-raids/kazeros-raid-mordum-gate-3

[vast oriole]

its the patterns that you need to not be electrocuted by the ball and the tiles

[balmy plank]

There are the ring around the rosey things early on. Then the red left, blue right and rotate around ones

[slate spear]

Hey everyone, how's it going?

I just started playing Lost Ark but I'm completely lost. I watched a video and started the game using the power pass mode, I used up all my HP potions and I don't have any in-game money to buy any lol, what do I do?

[balmy plank]

There are 2 types of potions. Ones you can buy for silver to use in the oveworld as you run around & battle item ones from chests you can use in raids. Dont every use battle item ones when you can use the generic ones

There are potion npcs all around areas where you can buy generic ones

Battle item ones get given out all the time for free from event shops and daily log in rewards etc

[livid fossil]

Lighting pizza

Mech

[balmy plank]

Use the maxroll link and pick the mech

[slate spear]

Yes, unfortunately I ended up using all the raid potions. I didn't understand the game mechanics and thought it was unlimited, lol.

[balmy plank]

The whole fight is lightning & pizza

[lavish mortar]

it's not a mech it's one of his normal patterns

[balmy plank]

You get a couple free from the playtime rewards each day. A few weekly from event shops accessed from an icon beside the minimap. Start saving them up and dont chug em

[lavish mortar]

the single rotating ball + yellow pizzas

[balmy plank]

Or the one where he slams down and there are alternating red/blue pizzas that maintain an electric grouns for a bit?

[livid fossil]

Mordum spreads his arms to the sides while shooting lightning everywhere.
4 Pizza slices emerge 1 by 1.
Simultaneously, orbs spin around, shooting lasers periodically.
Remember the order and dodge accordingly.

[balmy plank]

The whole fight is lightning. The whole fight is pizza

[livid fossil]

Think it’s that one

[lavish mortar]

what problem are you having with it

[balmy plank]

You just have to keep rotating to the safe color & avoid the periodic shocks from the balls. The floor pattern changes randomly every time. Same color is safe, opposite color will stun you & yellow will damage you but not stun you. If you cant make it to a safe spot, yellow is an okay backup

[candid lake]

https://youtu.be/mlWuwZYTCc4

this one?

[craggy hedge]

I need some help. I'm trying to get myself and a couple friends into the game. We all power passed and I have 541 combat power after power passing and was able to beat Vartan on my Valkyrie. My buddy is a Striker but only has 335 combat power and is basically timing out on Vartan and trying to beat him for 30 minutes. Any idea what he's missing? He seems to have cards, engravings, and equipment equipped.

[candid lake]

im guessing it is because lich said no color

and the hand spreading

i dont think mordum does that during carosseul

[balmy plank]

Probably a skill issue tbh. Raids arnt exactly easy if you just headfirst into it without any knowledge of you char or whats going on. Have you guys done stuff like set up your build & Arkesia tour?

[vast oriole]

well striker is like 5 times more difficult than valkyrie

is he using the back attack card buff

or is he trying to back attack at all

[balmy plank]

at 1640 doing a 1415 raid running the timer out should be impossible. If theyre scared running around the boss and not attacking tho

[candid lake]

it might be the buffed event one

[craggy hedge]

The Vartan raid or whatever on challenge express is 1640 I believe

[lavish mortar]

probably timing out the challenge express one
which i could see if you're new

[craggy hedge]

We just used recommended builds they give you when you start the power pass. He hasn't done Arkesia Tour.

[candid lake]

@craggy hedge what is their ign?

[craggy hedge]

Celrystixx

[vast oriole]

do the arkesia your

depending on his build, he will wants the wealths and the skill points

[balmy plank]

Id recommend following this next thing Ill link to get started

?quickstart

[buoyant dock]

Quickstart Info

So you just powerpassed?

1. Visit Lostark.nexus to find your class guide. Using that guide set up...
2. Skills (K Menu)
3. Skill Runes
4. Engravings (P - Engraving tab)
5. Ark Passive (P menu - Ark Passive in bottom left)
6. Gems (Refacet for free at Gem NPC)
7. Dismantle settings here

---

8. Complete Arkesia Tour (Icon Beside Minimap)
9. Use Tour rewards (skill points & runes) to improve on your class build
10. Collect & Read Engraving books (20 Yellow Legendary books x5 engravings)
    Engraving books can be obtained various ways through many various NPC exchanges, event shops & event handouts

---

The Arkesia Tour will have you complete a number of simple quests and reward you with a large amount of horizontal & collectable completion including more skill points & addition skill runes to help your build.

If a Mokoko Express is ongoing, activate it from an icon beside your minimap. It will provide free items to help with the process above as well as provide things like honing support to make progression easer. There is only 1 Mokoko Express per region so choose your character carefully!

Congrats, you now have a functional build to start trying activities like daily Chaos Dungeons, Guardians & weekly Solo Raids.
For any questions you can visit: #lost-ark-help Check the pinned comments!
Pick up class roles from id:customize to get access to class specific channels and info.
Use command /class name to link any class guide from Lostark.nexus. (Example, /slayer)
You can use the ?guides command for a variety of video & written guides.

[candid lake]

oh

[balmy plank]

No runes & they replaces 2 accessories

They should have accessories for all 5 slots with effect lines

[vast oriole]

the ark passive is also wrong

[lavish grove]

Striker Guide

Click here to view the full guide

Jan 25, 2026, 5:43 PM

[vast oriole]

tell him to follow this guide

[craggy hedge]

Gotcha, thanks

[balmy plank]

Send them this list of steps and that guide above
#lost-ark-help message

Do all that and it should make a big difference

[candid lake]

i think his ark passive is alrightish for where they're at

b/c i dont think they have enough for blunt thorn

at the moment

[balmy plank]

For step 10. Getting engraving books. You will get those free from beating Valtan

[vast oriole]

they wont have bt line till aegir

[candid lake]

actuallyhmm

[candid lake]

or if they get to 65

and run bt1

although idk how worth that is

[astral root]

doesn't the pp give accs?

[livid fossil]

Dammit i got shocked after jumping and i couldn’t get the stagger check

No

Gold shop hell

[candid lake]

by they wont have enough i meant evo points

[vast oriole]

btw, equip only 67 quality or youll miss enlightment points

[candid lake]

but if they follow it still i think they'll be fine

[astral root]

i'm pretty sure something in the express/powerpass gives relics

[vast oriole]

the style thing i guess

[keen compass]

Guys i just came back. did the power pass and joined the overture for kazeros raid. The raid failed and im now on gate 2. but i cannot join any groups now "gate progress does not match". And i cannot do it solo mode either because entry req not met "progress difficulty". Can anyone tell me what to do 🙂

[somber steeple]

anyone knows what this error means?

[candid lake]

sometimes event shop bugs

and refreshes stuff that should not have been refreshed

if u bought it in the past that is most likely why

[balmy plank]

You cant change from solo to group or from group to solo. If you start solo you have to do solo

[somber steeple]

does it update later or?

[keen compass]

so how do i continue from here? wait for a group that wants to do gate 2 only?

[candid lake]

i think reopen shop @somber steeple

[lavish mortar]

yes
so you're probably screwed

[candid lake]

it might fix itself

[balmy plank]

If you did group for gate 1, yes. You have to find a group starting in gate 2

[keen compass]

wtf is that design man.. how can ppl just get stuck here

[vast oriole]

so thats why you do solo only

so you dont get jailed

[keen compass]

imagine wanting to play an mmo but the devs are forcing you to play it solo.. what a horrible design man

[vast oriole]

well they arent forcing you

but theres a chance you get jailed if you join an inexperienced group

[keen compass]

that is true but i cannot continue :/

[astral root]

the gate design is made to prevent people bussing

[somber steeple]

that didnt work but i found a way, you select another shop then select the shop back and it updates

[keen compass]

or can i get mats for honing some other way maybe and then just skip it?

[vast oriole]

either you join a good group or you solo it

[astral root]

but the fact that we can't swap to solos is bs

you'll likely just have to wait next week

reset is in a few days anyways

[keen compass]

why does it reset or soemthing?

[balmy plank]

The game keeps moving forward. Old content becomes irrelevant. To alleviate some of that issue solo mode is made as an option. If people were FORCED to do group Valtan, Vykas etc it would be an absolute impossible barrier to entry

[astral root]

raids reset on wed in NA

[balmy plank]

Weekly resets on Wednesday and all your raid entries reset

[keen compass]

aah then i will be able to do it solo or start over from gate 1?

[astral root]

correct you start over

[keen compass]

ah okay then its not THAT bad.. thought i was locked out forever

[vast oriole]

start over at gate 1

since you play euc

i can get you into echidna hm next week

you are a mokoko so its a good way to get carried

since you give tokens to vets

[candid lake]

imagine if it worked like that 💀

[keen compass]

what is echidna hm? xD

[candid lake]

stuck forever in limbo

echidna hard mode

[vast oriole]

overture ahrd mode

[keen compass]

well was long in the conversation before anyone said anything about a reset xD

[vast oriole]

boss inside is called echidna in gate 2

[keen compass]

ah ty!

i see

[vast oriole]

thats why we call it that way

same for act 1, we call it aegir

etc etc

[keen compass]

right ok

[vast oriole]

did you do your 3 weekly raids?

what ilvl are you

[keen compass]

is that the guardian raids you are refering to?
im 1645

[vast oriole]

no

kazeros and legion raids

you have 3 weekly gold earning raids to do

at your ilvl, you should do echidna thaemine and behemoth

but behemoth is kinda shitty to get in

i would suggest to do thaemine

solo mode

[keen compass]

im looking for them

[vast oriole]

you will get some gold and some honing mats from it

you should watch a guide tho

g3 is a bit harder

[keen compass]

to me it seems its tier3

will i get mats for honing then? the ones i need

[vast oriole]

it got changed to tier 4 last patch

[obsidian valve]

?advhoning

[buoyant dock]

Optimal Advanced Honing Order
+12 -> 1-10 -> +14 -> 11-20 -> +18 -> 21-40 -> Continue to normal hone.
Calculated with no additional materials (Books & Solars) and full on grace for advanced honing (Scrolls & Solars used on full grace only). Personal costs may vary when using an abundance of these items should you have them. You can estimate your costs using Maxrolls Honing Calculator https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/upgrade-calculator

[keen compass]

i wrote u a pm

[raw heath]

how do i get to "rethramis" cant sail there

[balmy plank]

Dock at East Luterra and you can triport/fast travel to anywhere in that whole continent

[raw heath]

ah ok

[primal herald]

how do i get to the new guide section on nexus

the updated website

[livid fossil]

Isn’t just certain classes that got the new look

[balmy plank]

You need a link because its a work in progress. The current domain will be updated to the new site when its finalized and everything is done. Not all guides are done/started

https://nexus-guide-site.pages.dev/

[primal herald]

i see, ty

[warped ibex]

Do I just redeem cube tickets and use them? Or is it better to convert them to hell keys and do that?

[livid fossil]

Hell is random chance and cubes for gems it up
To you

[balmy plank]

If you want gems do cubes. If you want potential hell rewards you do hell. If you have the 1720 cube tickets I would always run those cubes tho tbh

[warped ibex]

Ooh okay thanks

[livid fossil]

So ah if I red and I try to counter on blue it won’t work

[stoic junco]

hi im playing pred slayer which bracelet is better? do i just trust the combat power system?

[livid fossil]

What spec pred

[stoic junco]

i believe standard swift

50/50 ssb it says on the guide im following

[warm marten]

hi guys, i have relic items from challenge express event ,and now i hot 1680 and have chance to swap to ancient accesories, but new dropped accesories dont have that many enlightenment points as relic accesories... its any chance to get same points, or should i stick to relic accesories?

[livid fossil]

67% quality

Or more

[balmy plank]

You need 67+ quality as a bare minimum to get the most Enlightenment points for your ark passive to start. So that ancient earring is trash. But after you get ones of higher quality you can refine them at an npc to roll 3 lines which also add more enlight points

[warm marten]

Thanks a lot guys for help

[balmy plank]

These are mine. you can see the +13/12/12/12/12 enlight on em

[vale gate]

For deathblade, which one do i go: surge or RE?

[rose wren]

whichever u prefer, tho most r RE iirc

[tender flicker]

Something like 95% people play RE. Up to your personal preference, but tbh dps valk is like a better surge blade imo.

[livid fossil]

So that would make Dragon knight the better breaker

[candid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

[raw heath]

can u do every content as a party?

[shy chasm]

You can but you wont find any for early raids

[raw heath]

and how can i see what items i wanna wear?

https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/build-guides/support-paladin-raid-guide#identity-gameplay-header cause this guide doesnt cover items

[candid lake]

wym items?

[lavish grove]

Here's the guide for Paladin Guide, @raw heath!

Paladin Guide

Click here to view the full guide

Jan 25, 2026, 9:12 PM

[bold geyser]

shame on you bot, bad link

[raw heath]

link not good?

[bold geyser]

take it, then click the link to the new guide slightly below the top

[raw heath]

if i press p i wear items i always wear them and wont change them?

[bold geyser]

just hasn't been updated to the new site

[raw heath]

https://nexus-guide-site.pages.dev/guides/paladin this one?

[bold geyser]

your armor will only change when you craft new levels of it, but you will preserve most of the stats and effects going forward. your jewelry you will replace rarely

[raw heath]

ah okay

[cyan kiln]

Unless they’re doing story without power pass

[raw heath]

and how do i see raid skills in the guide?

its just for chaos dungeon?

[bold geyser]

the new guide is only set up for support and for chaos rn it seems

if you're doing solo content use the dps build from the old guide

[raw heath]

but for support raids?

[bold geyser]

for support raids it looks like it has everything laid out

chaos is its own little section everything below that is for raiding

[raw heath]

ahh okay

[bold geyser]

there isn't a big demarkation between them, but the immediate next section is switched

[raw heath]

didnt saw that omg 😄

[bold geyser]

(i still like that and a few other things about the old layout, but )

should also get the paladin role from id:customize so you can see whats in #paladin

[raw heath]

makes sense yy 😄

thx

[bold geyser]

theres some good stuff in the pins

[nimble sapphire]

is there a list somehwere naming reccomended cp for each raid?

would liove that for reference

[lucid axle]

not really a list

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/stats/combat-power

[bold geyser]

https://uwuowo.mathi.moe/stats/combat-power this is probably the best there is rn

jinx

[lucid axle]

but yeah just try to always be at the average

[bold geyser]

looking at it, that's actually pretty accurate for at least the suggestions ive seen

[lucid axle]

yeah though PF always wants at least a decent bit over the average

but the average is usually enough to be able to clear

[nimble sapphire]

thanks guys

[warped ibex]

Is the only way to get pheons with crystals?

[lucid axle]

or real money

[warped ibex]

Yikes okay

[lucid axle]

can convert gold in blue crystals for pheons

but it’s a lot

[astral root]

Sometimes they get chucked out by events

There's lots of stuff a new player can do to circumvent needing them early

[lucid axle]

the only real reason to use them now really is to min max

actually maybe for braclets

the one from gold shop isn’t very good

[astral root]

I'd just do paradise ones

[lucid axle]

well yeah if u have the patience

even u open a braclet chest sometimes u don’t get any usable ones

for alts i would only wait

if ur new and ur trying to rush things maybe sometimes its worth for braclet

[warped ibex]

Would switching out my accessories for different ones make a difference that's worth the investment right now? I'm shining knight valk

[rose jewel]

not a huge one, depends on what you have or lack any investment is better placed elsewhere

but since we got no idea of what you have or lack...

whats your ign

we can check uwu

[warped ibex]

My ign is Ajiyeun

[vast oriole]

thats like the worst shit to do

telling new players to buy bracelets...

[warped ibex]

I think I have a decent one? so I'm not too concerned about the bracelet

[lucid axle]

like i said it’s only really to min max

not that u have to

[rose jewel]

lacking some karma i believe but thats kinda time gated

finish that last adv hone on the weapon for the extra stats

qual seems fine

books seem fine, they expensive af

[warped ibex]

Yeah I'm doing the dailies right now for one of the enlightenment potions

[lucid axle]

and of the options to spend ur pheons braclets probably ur best option

[warped ibex]

I'm also abidos capped right now for my weapon that's why it's not honed all the way

When buying bracelets I'm only buying for the 2 locked slots then I have to gamble the rest right?

[lavish mortar]

Yep so expect to get nothing for your money

[lucid axle]

it’s really shit but once u get a decent one as of rn you’ll be keeping it forever

[vast oriole]

get better accs instead of gambling for bracelets...

if you have pheons

[lucid axle]

well accs ur always replacing

[vast oriole]

no you can go high nothing and not replace it till 1730

[lucid axle]

you can get high nothing from gold shop

[warped ibex]

Should I spend 3 reroll tickets to replace the 4th line? or better to wait for a better bracelet?

[vast oriole]

they are cheaper in ah

way cheaper

instead of paying 30k for gold shop, he can pay 5k in the market

[vast oriole]

wait for better bracelet

[lucid axle]

well 35 pheons to gold is also pretty expensive

[vast oriole]

its worse to buy bracelets

since you will prob get nothign from the pheons spent

sure link it here

[warped ibex]

So spend pheons to upgrade my accessories

[vast oriole]

personally i would go for accs and fuck bracelet

[warped ibex]

At my current state should I only aim for high-low or high-mid?

[vast oriole]

its a dogshit system that maybe you will never get something good

high nothing

[shy chasm]

Would be huge the other way around

[warped ibex]

Is high nothing better than mid mid?

[astral root]

I second this especially if we are talking about supports

[vast oriole]

you dont have mid mid

mid mid is when two mid are %

flat doesnt count

[warped ibex]

Ah I completely misunderstood then

[shy chasm]

Y

[warped ibex]

Okay I'll try looking for some

[vast oriole]

yea

[lucid axle]

getting rerolls i feel rn isn’t to hard so 6 rerolls per braclet it shouldn’t be to bad

[vast oriole]

focus on the second ring, earrings usually are around same price as gold shop

[lucid axle]

but yeah if you don’t have many pheons to work with in the first place probably go do accessories first

[astral root]

Imo the solo shop ones are nice too because you can spend roster bound gold

[vast oriole]

yeah

no recent prices aswell ?

[astral root]

With how the mokoko event is ending people are going to start clamping down

And tradeable gold is valuable for oreha crafting

[vast oriole]

im opening the game to check if theres prices on euc

bootcamp should start not long after this one ends

thats what they said

[warped ibex]

How important is strength? Would the left still be better than the right?

[vast oriole]

quality doesnt matter, its the main stat that does

[vast oriole]

focus on ring

also, depends for earrins

do you want to play supp at some point or you want to only dps ?

because if you want to only dps, get atk power%

if you want to sup sometimes, get weapon power%

[warped ibex]

I'm probably only playing dps

[lucid axle]

as long as it’s above 67 quality

[vast oriole]

then check atk power%

if its cheaper

[warped ibex]

Okay so earrings atk power because of dps but prioritize ring right now?

[vast oriole]

yeah

one ring

the other is already high crit dmg

so you only miss one

[warped ibex]

Hmm okay

Would you say theres a strength number I should aim for?

Or just highest possible

[lucid axle]

doesn’t matter but of course the higher the better

[rigid lark]

Is there an area where Hit Master is better than Cursed Doll? Cursed Doll seems to me that its better in just about every scenario.

[warped ibex]

Persay is a 1000 strength difference significant?

[vast oriole]

12k main stat like you

you can try this price and lower little by little if it doesnt sell

[shy chasm]

Theres a differently but it isnt tgat big

[vast oriole]

hit master doesnt have the heal penalty and books are cheaper
thats about it

well books *were cheaper, idk now

ok still are

[rigid lark]

Is that healing reduction just your own health regen? Or just 25% of healing from your support less?

[lucid axle]

everything i believe

idk if regen counts

ur pots get affected too

[vast oriole]

pots and support heals get affected

own regen also

[rigid lark]

Hmmm. So it might not be optimal for progging raids.

[lucid axle]

if u can swap yes

[vast oriole]

usually people use ether predator for prog

[lucid axle]

how long does ether pred take to match legendary CD?

if relic

[vast oriole]

barely

its really fast now

and progging takes more time than home work raids

think its done in like 2mins

[lucid axle]

maybe i’ll get it maxed

[vast oriole]

its really good on prog

[rigid lark]

My main goal is just trying to get some points in books to push my combat power. So I am just trying to learn a bit more about engravings

[lucid axle]

engravings i wouldn’t work on until ur like 1730

[tender flicker]

what class? most dps engravings are pricey

[lucid axle]

it’s just not value in most cases

[rigid lark]

I am 1732, so yeah. I am at that point.

[rigid lark]

DPS Valk, sadly

[vast oriole]

whats your class?

maybe stab status?

can go hit master on valk

and books are way cheaper

its 75k instead of 130 for cd

yes its still expensive

but a bit less

[noble garden]

im trying to do the quest A Poet's letter but i cant find it at luterra castle. i have checked and i completed all the pre requisites, can anyone help ?

[rigid lark]

Yeah, but its the only "cheap" book option. The others are 200k+

[vast oriole]

yeah i know the feeling

well i dont

but i sympathize

[lucid axle]

support engravings should also be 100k each

[vast oriole]

i mena sure

but they would need to be useful for that

:')

[livid fossil]

Can you screenshot the quest

[vast oriole]

maybe its in guide tab in your J ?

i dont remember ngl

[livid fossil]

Classic 🐈

[noble garden]

Its not @vast oriole

[vast oriole]

https://lostarkcodex.com/us/quest/7000100/

hmm

oh its the quest for the music box

[noble garden]

Yes

I wanna get thatmount

[vast oriole]

it says guide tab

are you sure its not there ?

[noble garden]

I can screenshot if you want

[vast oriole]

yes please

[west onyx]

Go to luterra's castle and go to the portal where you register your song of return

There should be an npc there that doesnt have an icon on the minimap that you can interact with

[vast oriole]

then follow what yuuri said

[warped ibex]

@vast oriole Is atk power still better? This is what the nexus says for shining knight google doc

[noble garden]

yea i cant find that npc @west onyx

[west onyx]

If you press locate button and it shows Luterra Castle then

It's there

[warped ibex]

Weapon% is around 30k~ cheaper so just wondering if atk% is worth the investment

[bold geyser]

i would trust the google doc over generic dps advice, since ostensibly it should be geared toward your specific class

[vast oriole]

wp% value decreases whenenever you hone, thats the issue

[noble garden]

it says she should give it, but i cant interact

[vast oriole]

what?

what are you checking

[warped ibex]

Ah I'm checking for the earrings right now

Just looking at the cheapest high-low

[vast oriole]

atkpower% nothign is cheaper than wp%

ah

well iw as talking about high nothing

not high low

if you want to go high low, yes wp% is cheaper

[warped ibex]

Yeye I'm just considering high low cause I don't really wanna buy more pheons hahah

[west onyx]

Check that you have these completed

If you completed those then the npc is interactable

[vast oriole]

make sure you have good main stat if you splurge on that

[lucid axle]

i just say fuck the cheap options and go for the cheapest BIS that works for my whole roster

[warped ibex]

Should I consider anything less than 13k main stat then?

[vast oriole]

no

well if you find one cheap at 12.8 its fine

[warped ibex]

Hmm okay

And if I'm doing high low it should be wep% atk%?

[vast oriole]

yes

[warped ibex]

Okay sounds good

[noble garden]

weird, all 3 compelete, i still cant interact

[west onyx]

Can you show screenshot

[vast oriole]

little ref for you

[noble garden]

of all 3 yuuri ?

[bold geyser]

you def didn't already complete it, did you? 🙂

[noble garden]

def not @bold geyser

[west onyx]

Of the npc that you can't interact with

[warped ibex]

65k for a high low 13.55k is that overpriced you'd say?

[noble garden]

i assume its Bard Shannon @west onyx

based on the quest

[vast oriole]

watch for recent prices to give you an idea

[vast oriole]

but i dont think it is

[rigid lark]

Yeah, thats what I have been thinking about. Most my alts can make use of HM and Cursed Doll together. The problem is that Valk seems to only want one of them. I didnt consider the recovery penalty, and seeing that I want my ilvl to be high for the Serca raid, I might just go HM instead

[bold geyser]

there are multiple zones there, check the catacombs

[warped ibex]

Also for ring it'd be crit dmg% and crit%?

[bold geyser]

i believe you, just gotta ask

[vast oriole]

yes

[warped ibex]

Alright I'll keep a lookout thanks for the help

[midnight nimbus]

what does it mean to sacrifice in final act g2?

[vast oriole]

no problem

[vast oriole]

you go to the spot when sacrifice mech happens and rest of the lobby will do stagger to save you

did you watch a guide

[midnight nimbus]

what does the sac'd person do after entering black hole? are the cc'd the whole time?

[vast oriole]

yes

you just wait till you are saved

[lucid axle]

if ur prepping urself for serca just do what’s most efficient for CP gain until then so yeah HM

[midnight nimbus]

thanks

[rigid lark]

Yeah, I think I am at the point where I just wanna max out books anyway. My weapon is +23, Armor +20. I am almost fully at H/M accessories. Full lvl 8 gems with one lvl 9 for splendor.

I just hate it that my combat power feels so low with 3400.

[vast oriole]

what about your ark grid ?

[vast oriole]

tbh weapon 25 gives a shitton of cp, but i udnerstand you dont want to go for it when soft reset is coming

well can get a bit more cp from it

when youll get cores

[lucid axle]

i’m 3300

[rigid lark]

I need a high combat power to somewhat compensate my lack of hands

[lucid axle]

and my cores are significantly better

my accessories are poop though

single high rings with high/low earrings and neck

[shy chasm]

Wow full relic

[vast oriole]

your class is poop

[lucid axle]

t3 lvl 10 dmg on transformation too

[vast oriole]

oh my

get a lvl 9 t4 pls

[lucid axle]

it really is

[vast oriole]

xD

[rigid lark]

No wonder why my combat power is higher then xD

[lucid axle]

i have many many cubes to go through

and 1 lvl 8 sitting in storage

i don’t wanna buy it but lazy to do cubes lol

[vast oriole]

shouldve bought before prices goes even more up

[rigid lark]

I do cubes mainly for lvl 7 gems for my alts so they arent too ratty

[vast oriole]

you didnt buy the ones from gold shop for them ?

well if you have char bound gold

[rigid lark]

I want full lvl 7's tho. Which isnt the most intelligent thing to do, but hey

[vast oriole]

oh

i see yea

[noble garden]

can someone show me the ring of tuning mount ? i wanna see if its worth chasing

idk how to preview it

[rigid lark]

But my alts are doing fine for now. So I wanted to make sure my main is ready for the Serca raid. I wanna aim for around 4k combat power but that still seems a bit unrealistic. Maybe if I use every single gold on buying books or try to yolo the weapon anyway.

[lucid axle]

i’ll probably just x3 my cubes and pray i don’t get “lucky”

[noble garden]

ooo i like

[balmy plank]

Functions similar to bubble mounts. Rings rotate like a gyroscope

[noble garden]

thank you

[vast oriole]

yeah i have poop settings

[rigid lark]

I have HDR active so my screenshots would probably burn out everyones eyes

[vast oriole]

yes

[lucid axle]

4k is a bit of a crazy jump but if u manage to get full relic cores by then it’s possible

[bold geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/nub-nub-cat-silly-cat-kitty-gif-12133323231430499415

[lucid axle]

though cores itself will probably get u like only +300 u probably need better engravings too

[rigid lark]

I am 100 points away for my next pity. So I think getting all cores to 17+ should be doable. Also getting that H/M neck and some points into books should probably get me to 3.7/3.8k maybe. I think that should be doable.

[vast oriole]

just freetap +24

[rigid lark]

I free tapped my entire way from +18 to +22. I think my luck is exhausted

But that means I still have like 460k (character bound) destruction stones

[lucid axle]

only good luck i got on my main was 100 quality weapon

full pitied 19-20

[rigid lark]

Ooof

[vast oriole]

wtf lucksack

[rigid lark]

I think I tilted a few people in my guild when I hit like 3 freetaps on my weapon in like a week.

[lucid axle]

gimmi

[west onyx]

Does anyone know how much cp relic engravings give?

[lucid axle]

i think it’s around 60-70 from 0 to 20

you can check in trix

[west onyx]

O ty

[rigid lark]

I think one point was somewhere around 15-20 combat power

If I dont pity, +24 might be doable. But I'd also rather wait for the soft reset. But if I can get to around 3.8k combat power plus, I should be fine dmg wise

[lucid axle]

yeah i’m at +20 so i doubt i’ll go for it

[vast oriole]

tbh i dont think youll be accepted with a +20 weapon for hm XD

[lucid axle]

i cannnn go for +25

[vast oriole]

no dont

just go for like 22

[lucid axle]

but i’ll need to buy a decent bit of mats

gold isn’t really the issue

[vast oriole]

it should be fine at 22

[lucid axle]

yeah 40% already to 21 so i’ll do 22 then

[rigid lark]

Also +24 looks interesting for the extra lvl you get on converting

[vast oriole]

i went 25 for the glow lol

[lucid axle]

yeah that’s why i want 25 too lol

[rigid lark]

I have the glow turned off because its too flashy for my taste lol

[lucid axle]

new glow coming so maybe you’ll like that

still kinda flashy though lol

[vast oriole]

eh

its same shape but red

[lucid axle]

but the glow will only show if i play PS and not DI

[vast oriole]

purple is better

[rigid lark]

Saw it and its kinda meh

[lucid axle]

my glow looks so shit i feel so imposter everytime i join a lobby on my main

seeing everyone with purple and i’m there with my red and white

is the conversion for the new mats also 5:1?

[vast oriole]

yes

[lucid axle]

gonna be a while before i get 25 then

what’s the new cap for ilvl with new gear?

[vast oriole]

1800 i think

[lucid axle]

jesus

just hoarding on gold rn but will probably spend it on books and ig now some weapon tapping

[bold geyser]

tryna get cheap books but they rarely go on sale 🥲

only other way to get more cores this week is do final day right?

[vast oriole]

ye

[bold geyser]

foiled again

gonna try next week

[lucid axle]

best to find learning party but shouldn’t take to long

[bold geyser]

thatst he plan 🙂

[lucid axle]

one with teacher helps a lot

i think mine took 3-4 hours cumulative

[bold geyser]

how are astrogems rated?

i feel like i have one quite good one but im not sure if it's like...decent or quite good or lowkey garbo

[vast oriole]

lowest willpower best order/chaos points

[bold geyser]

(the rest are straight garbo 🥲 )

uhh sec

[lucid axle]

side nodes don’t matter as much

min maxing stuff

[bold geyser]

5/5/5/0?

however you'd describe it

[lucid axle]

sad the side nodes aren’t good but very good

[vast oriole]

your goal is to get 17p

then its the minmax of stats

[bold geyser]

noooooo

[lucid axle]

full 17P first then u can nit pick

[bold geyser]

whihc is what, a bit higher side node?

where does the 17p come from

[lucid axle]

atk power < additional dmg < boss dmg

[bold geyser]

i'm bard i'm hoping the top line is okay =X

[lucid axle]

chaos points

oh wait bard

good

very good then

you’ll probably be using it for a while

[lucid axle]

comes from chaos points

[bold geyser]

5 is max no?

[lucid axle]

5 is max per

ur limited by ur willpower on how many astrogems u can equip

which 3 is the lowest for a gem

[bold geyser]

oh 17p on the core

[lucid axle]

so 3/5 very good

[vast oriole]

yes

[bold geyser]

i thought you were talking about the "astrogem points" on the gem itself

which im guessing is just...a sum of the levels

[lucid axle]

yeah

[lavish mortar]

Yep

[vast oriole]

yep

[lucid axle]

but ur limited by how much willpower the core lets u use

[bold geyser]

yep

yayay

i got lots of bad gems

im just tryna understand 🙂

all quite moot this week cause my cores are ass

[lavish mortar]

Most gems are bad ngl
Then you get super good ones sometimes and it feels nice

[vast oriole]

^

[bold geyser]

i figured 😄

no rush

[lavish mortar]

Ya 0 rush just get what ya get and chill with it

[lucid axle]

yeah if ur doing NM i would expect good cores for a while

[vast oriole]

every rarity of core have diff willpower aswell

[lucid axle]

i think i’ve gotten 3 relic cores from only doing act 4 NM for 3 weeks now

[vast oriole]

lowest is epic and highest is ancient obv

?????????????????

[bold geyser]

i'd like to at least fill out the 6 cores 😄

[lavish mortar]

If you think thats bad my valk would like a word kek

[vast oriole]

thats lucky af lol

[lucid axle]

5 alts

[vast oriole]

yeah

its lucky

[lucid axle]

so 15 runs 3 relics

[vast oriole]

i dont even get relic from hm

XD

[lucid axle]

really?

[vast oriole]

yes

XDDDD

[lavish mortar]

That'll take awhile if you dont do kazeros

[vast oriole]

its lucky af

[lucid axle]

2 of them were flashy attack too

[vast oriole]

......

lucksack

[bold geyser]

to....to just get 6 different cores?? 😭

[lavish mortar]

I got 2 ancients this week must be normal

[bold geyser]

tryna do kaz this next coming week

[lavish mortar]

To get 6 that aren't useless to you? Yeah

[bold geyser]

ughhhhhhh

[lucid axle]

watch my alt drop a ancient core before my main

[lavish mortar]

Cuz if you play supp bard half the cores are worthless lol

[vast oriole]

thats exactly what happened to me XD

[bold geyser]

yeah i have two good ones, a single red for ninebard, and a dps dupe on chaos star

"good" as in a legendary and epic of my bis

[lavish mortar]

Nice

[bold geyser]

common bis tho 😄

[split kayak]

this format induces the elixir ptsd

[lavish mortar]

Less nice xD

[split kayak]

[vast oriole]

EXACTLY

i dont watch the stats, i just want the points rn

literally exact same as elixirs

[split kayak]

removing elixir and introducing elixir v2

[bold geyser]

...is attack better tahn wp for dps if the wp core is higher qual?

[bold geyser]

elixir you got to choose from a buncha choices this is just random bullshit 😄

[split kayak]

[lavish mortar]

Yes

Unless its like 14 vs 17p

[bold geyser]

dont particularly care that much about it but i may as well set up optimally for my dps spec

[lavish mortar]

But ancient wp manages to be worse than relic atk

[bold geyser]

nope, i have a leggo WP (yay!) and an epic AP (boo)

since theyre the same slot i was just wondering which is better for dpsbard

since i have to wait 8 minutes for the chaos gate anyhow

[lucid axle]

for now until u can active at least 10P i’ll just equip whatever cores u have at highest rarity to allow u to fit more side node stats

[bold geyser]

wait i thought the only diff was the amount of levels it has unlocks for

[vast oriole]

no, the willpower is diff too

like i said earlier

NOBODY READ MEEEEE

[bold geyser]

whaaaaaaat

[lucid axle]

more willpower slots

unless you can activate a point it’s just whatever highest rarity

[lavish mortar]

9/12/15/17 will power i think?

[bold geyser]

you said it but i didn't understand

so yeah forget that i'm using the WP for dps cause i can use 3 cores gems, whatever

[vast oriole]

yes

[bold geyser]

so purple cores cant even activate their first 10p line?

[lucid axle]

they can

just very hard

[lavish mortar]

You can slap 3 diff 3willppwer 5points gems

[bold geyser]

mines kinda ass anyway

[lavish mortar]

You could activate 14p effect, if it had it 🤣

[bold geyser]

only have the one so far, so that's a later project 😄

actually...

[lavish mortar]

for astros kekw

[lucid axle]

realistically you only really need good 4/5 and some 5/5 cores if ur looking to min max since ancient allows for 17

[lavish mortar]

Iirc bis ancient is 2x 10 cost 1x 9 cost 1x 8 cost all 5555

[lucid axle]

get to fish for the boss dmg

[lavish mortar]

But uhm
Good luck with that one !

[bold geyser]

ezpz

yeah i have the wrong dps core 🥲

so it doesn't matter anyhow

[turbid apex]

does anyone still do Behemoth with 1640 alts? Have some chars i wanna push after the honing nerf from 1585 but looks like you really only get solo echidna gold at that level right?

[lucid axle]

ppl rn do it for mokoko event

but probably will see a lot more lobbies with the T3 honing coming

[balmy plank]

I did 4 Behemoths today to farm mokoko tokens

[turbid apex]

kk are they refreshing the mokoko event

[vast oriole]

probably

[turbid apex]

cause it looks like it ends at the new patch

[vast oriole]

we dont know when it will go up again, but they did say they will try to bring it back faster

[lucid axle]

last time it was down I think it was only a few weeks

I honestly dont remember

Just wasn't that long

[lavish mortar]

Its an "evergreen" event in thay itll be gone for a little bit but will always come back with fresh rewards

[lucid axle]

so if this time it will even be faster just assume a week or two

[turbid apex]

ok new player experience in this game is getting better but still has soooo far to go

if you come back and want to eventually get to pinnacle content on release you are basically forced to swipe

or farm for a year

[lucid axle]

I think with the Feb update it'll be pretty much a good point for any new player to come

a lot of what makes this game bad is it's own toxicity

[turbid apex]

ya just starting from a roster of 1 with all the required gold is kinda rough

[lucid axle]

to do NM it's not hard especially with boosted event

but yeah HM will take a bit

[turbid apex]

ya i mean HM

like if i want to be ready for Serca HM for example

[vast oriole]

i woudlnt say farm for a year

[turbid apex]

i dont think theres any world where i could do that

[vast oriole]

i mean

i dont think expecting to reach endgame instantly in a mmo is normal

[turbid apex]

ya for sure i agree w that

[split kayak]

will still get gatekept due to roster level

and title

[turbid apex]

ya exactly

[vast oriole]

yeah fomo titles are very terrible

[turbid apex]

my roster is 209

[vast oriole]

for new players

[turbid apex]

idk how that stacks up

but i played a lot on release and came back a few times over the years

[vast oriole]

roster 209 is pretty good

[split kayak]

i dont think the community will ever change

[vast oriole]

0 chance it will change

[split kayak]

so i just gave up on titles

[vast oriole]

it will just go worse

[lucid axle]

yeah it's a community issue so it'll never happen unless they remove frontier titles

[turbid apex]

im honestly not too worried about gatekeeping - im happy to just join learning lobbies and sit there for hours

its more just being able to try the content

[lucid axle]

yeah for sure it'll exist it just starts to get annoying when it starts becoming HW

[turbid apex]

ya well guess it depends on the number of characters you play

[lucid axle]

true

if u only push alts to 1680 and just run solo and only push ur main

it probably won't be as bad as a experience

[turbid apex]

even that seems imporssible w gold costs though

[lucid axle]

I personally think it's only worth pushing alts to 1680 rn gold wise

[turbid apex]

its like 2mm gold per char or more right

[vast oriole]

its not impossible

just do alts with express

we all did that

[turbid apex]

yup

[vast oriole]

• with paradise its really not that bad

[lucid axle]

if it's through story express it's like less then 1m

less then 500k maybe

[turbid apex]

paradise only gives materials though

[vast oriole]

i have alts outside top 6 that are almost 1680

[lucid axle]

and you'll be increase ur gold income by almost 100k

[vast oriole]

and i only use char bound gold from paradise

same for fusion mats

[turbid apex]

wait you get char bound gold from paradis

how

[vast oriole]

yes

from hell

[lucid axle]

hell

[lavish mortar]

Hell keys

[turbid apex]

ah

[lavish mortar]

Gotta get lucky

[turbid apex]

ok still havent gotten any of those

first week back

but i did paradise on all my chars alreayd

[lucid axle]

Just unlucky ig

[turbid apex]

i think its the best new content ive tried

[lucid axle]

its for sure

[vast oriole]

its by far the best content they added

sicne the release of the game

[lucid axle]

fucking amazig

alts feel like so much less of a chore to push

[lavish mortar]

I find it highly boring
But its very rewarding which feels good

[turbid apex]

not just rewards tho

[rose wren]

playercount wont raise at all

[turbid apex]

kinda cool to have to play a naked char w no engravings etc

[lucid axle]

boring kinda but rewards

[vast oriole]

oh i find it giga boring too

[turbid apex]

in a diff way

[vast oriole]

but i love the rewards

[turbid apex]

how do you get hell keys

are they a weekly thing

[lucid axle]

I only enjoy it on my main

[vast oriole]

after doing crucible once

[turbid apex]

or just random drop from paradise

[vast oriole]

yes its weekly

keys are from ranking

[lucid axle]

every week as long as u have a time on the boss you get 3 blue keys

[split kayak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nostalgia-P7zGLXGPUhS6s

[vast oriole]

i dont even do crucible every week

[split kayak]

3 blue eyes?

[vast oriole]

i did once on first week of the season

and now i just need to log my alts every week and i get keys

[turbid apex]

ah i see ok

[lucid axle]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-redeyes-dark-magician-dark-dragoon-card-gif-17093613252308223653

[obsidian valve]

yeah so basically the keys have rarity/grades to them, but lowest grade is blue - they kinda force you into competitiveness to get the higher ones - that's the gimmick

[turbid apex]

ya

[vast oriole]

i get better floors with blue than purple keys

[split kayak]

i want the banner

[lucid axle]

it's all rng barely any skill once you figure out a rotation

[obsidian valve]

same

[turbid apex]

i was only able to get my zerker and blade to like lvl 5 but my sorc is level 10 already

[obsidian valve]

it's all rng unfortunately 😭

[turbid apex]

guess its easier/harder on various classes

[vast oriole]

db kinda sucks on paradise

[split kayak]

it is

[lucid axle]

sorcerer is op i believe in paradise

[split kayak]

stupid class

no engraving db is so cancer

[obsidian valve]

sorc is alright, summ is cool there, maybe it's because i'm main summ idk

[lucid axle]

Aero I find brain dead

Just spam T

[turbid apex]

sorc was so easy

and it seemed to snowball when i somehow got a bunch of mana regen

i still dont know how

[lucid axle]

everytime u lvl up a piece they give u some sort of buff

[turbid apex]

its ranking by char right

[lucid axle]

mana regen is one

yeah

I only really chase for better time on my main

alts I just get into top 30% and call it a day for a purple key

though it honestly isn't any better

[split kayak]

purple and orange keys are scam

[lucid axle]

fr

[split kayak]

my farthest descent is blue key

[obsidian valve]

mhm it's a scam

[turbid apex]

its still a lot of fusion mats to push t3 chars or are they nerfing that w gold cost as well

[lucid axle]

t3 will cost no gold

no nerfs in terms of mats needed though I believe

[vast oriole]

well you dont need to hone till 1585

and 1580 to 1620 will cost orehas but its way way less than before

(i think they should remove the fusion cost but smilegate is slow)

[turbid apex]

oh so they are nerfing the orehas too

[vast oriole]

no

[lucid axle]

you get a decent bit from solo shop weekly

[turbid apex]

i see ~2200 required

ya ive been buying them

[lucid axle]

full books?

[turbid apex]

i have more than enough on my sorc but i need more on my zerker

[vast oriole]

i mean it got nerfed multiple times

[turbid apex]

ya

[lucid axle]

I swear it was only 1200 ot something

[vast oriole]

but they arent getting nerfed now

[turbid apex]

k maybe maxroll isnt up to date

[vast oriole]

its not 1200

with express event its 1400

[turbid apex]

i didnt put full solars

[vast oriole]

but express starts at 1640

[turbid apex]

and these alts would be non express

they are just parked at 1585 adn 1600

[lucid axle]

ah yeah 2200 with full books

[turbid apex]

ok i guess ill see if it makes sense to use some fusion chests

idk

[vast oriole]

no

just wait for paradise loot

[lucid axle]

paradise will literally fund all the mats you'll ever need for your alts

it just comes down to wanted to spend gold to push them

even main unless ur pushing it really fast

dont even think I bought abidos since paradise released

[turbid apex]

you get abidos from paradise too

[lucid axle]

yeah

[vast oriole]

i dont buy, i craft them

yes

[turbid apex]

wow

[lucid axle]

free taps too

[turbid apex]

thats a lot of stuff

[vast oriole]

hell is really giga

xD

[turbid apex]

if 1640 isnt a thing i guess ill just keep the alts at 1620 in t3 and advance hone w t3 mats?

i have so many

can still do echidna

[lucid axle]

yeah literally no complaining from me

it's insane

[vast oriole]

i mean usually its better to not stay in t3

[turbid apex]

why

[vast oriole]

but if you have a tons of shards and solars, you can

because its wasted t4 mats

and t4 time

[lucid axle]

the conversion of mats from t3 to t4 is really bad

[turbid apex]

ya thats true i guess

[lucid axle]

and AH is hella cheap nkw

no reason to stay t3

[vast oriole]

if you can tap all advanced honing with the t3 juice, its nice tho

but yeah

[turbid apex]

ya i have enough shards for ah for sure

just feels like a waste to not use them

[lucid axle]

yeah ig if ur sitting on a lot of mats already sure burn them up

[turbid apex]

ok will see how it looks on patch day

thanks for all the help

[lucid axle]

[vast oriole]

i just transfered back then my alts asap to t4

[obsidian valve]

[vast oriole]

without doing ah

doesnt really matter

[split kayak]

wtf

[turbid apex]

ya i did the same w my blade

[vast oriole]

shards are quite fast to get in t4

[turbid apex]

but thats a lot of shards

[vast oriole]

i think my bard is worse