You do raids with people
#lost-ark-help
vast oriole
If youre a mokoko, you get mokoko tokens
If youre not a mokoko but you get into a raid with one, you get expert tokens
A mokoko cant get expert tokens
rich verge
what if u just have 2 mains ðŸ§
bold geyser
what if u just have 2 mains ðŸ§
making an alt now will still cut into your resources a lot
rich verge
SE highrolled those free taps though 😢
rich verge
yoinking this gif instantly thank you
obsidian valve
i haven't seen a good tradeable relic book in so long 
me realizing i have to cook dinner tonight
rich verge
need a rat on elpon to help me farm punika banana for ignea any takers 
vast oriole
me realizing im still living
rich verge
been here 45 mins for 2 FACKING bananas
lavish mortar
me realizing im still living
Relatable....
vast oriole
yeah bananas are very terrible if you dont farm multiple spots at the same time
molten grove
Bro if ur spending 4.6k on this game u dont really need to worry about alt char efficiency until 1730+ lol
rich verge
yeah bananas are very terrible if you dont farm multiple spots at the same time
if i had more of me i would
was just bouncing between the 2 close ones but its abysmal
molten grove
U could buy azenas on every char in ur main 6 u do dailies with, every ark pass, every special package
It’s a giga boost
rose wren
if i had more of me i would
takes some hours atleast, could be longer, rng shits
vast oriole
watch a tv show on the second screen XD
molten grove
I played this game since release and still couldn’t be fked doing punika banana farm lmao
vast oriole
my bf did my bananas
rich verge
i dont really have anything left that isnt a huge pain in the ass to farm tbh
vast oriole
i did yorn mushrooms tho
molten grove
my bf did my bananas
No wonder y he’s ur bf then
rich verge
yorn feiton elgacia rowen voldis punika svern
vast oriole
and is till think they are more awful XD
well at least back then
now, bananas are prob more awful
rose wren
shroom still ass
molten grove
If the horizontal is gonna take more than 1hr I avoid it like the plague
vast oriole
because dont have people farming with you
molten grove
I still use green purify coz of how much I hate horizontal
:3
edgy mason
Main 1699 ( below 1700 for mokoko event)
Alt 1 1684 with express event ( finished all challenges except mordium i cant get in lobby)
and 5 other alts level 1640-1645.
i have alot of mats on each like 1k fusion and 2k leapstones.
do i push them to 1660, do i push one of them to 1680 or what is the plan here. this is to be able to earn more gold per week from the raids.
molten grove
Yeah that’s the catch
edgy mason
i got 90k gold rn to spare and 40k waiting to get
molten grove
If u wanna push ur alts r fked
vast oriole
you can do solo for the mordum express
molten grove
If u wait ur main is fked
edgy mason
dunno if i should push evenly 1660 or one at a time to 1680
vast oriole
get better cp on your main
molten grove
Either way it’s a catch 22
vast oriole
stop touching alts
you hone alts with char bound gold
thats it
his main has 1200cp...
rich verge
i can understand where these people that keep coming in here asking these questions are coming from though
molten grove
Coz when u push main u could fk both main and alts depending on what ur cp and exp of raid looks like
rich verge
if you dont have atleast some sort of established roster ur gold income per week is trashmonkey
molten grove
If ur main is like 1700 1700cp and below with no title and no raid exp
molten grove
It’s very difficult
vast oriole
hes way more fucked if he continues honing alts instead of focusing his ressources on main
vast oriole
If ur main is like 1700 1700cp and below with no title and no raid exp
hes 1200cp...
again
molten grove
Yeah that’s why the koko event is kinda shit coz it incentivises u to not hone main it should be at 1730 that u lose icon imo
molten grove
If he’s 1200cp and he tones to 1700 he’s fked lol
rich verge
like turbo fucked
vast oriole
mokoko event finishes next month
molten grove
He needs to push to 1700cp with title to get a party in pf
rich verge
he doesnt need any CP until mokoko event finishes
can go in nakey and its fine
if all you have is 90k gold u dont have enough to do anything though 
dim pulsar
vast oriole
ok but it finishes in one month
molten grove
Yeah he needs to
- Start increasing cp to 1700
- Get learning raid party ready as soon as he’s 1700 and rdy
- Learn the raid asap and buy astrogem box to try maximize his cp asap
molten grove
Buy bracelet gems accessories
molten grove
Personally I’d be getting alts rdy until I have a plan for my main so I’m not in some fked situation where I hone to 1700 and can’t get a party anyway and now I lost koko icon ontop
vast oriole
everything
molten grove
He didn’t buy his gold shop items
vast oriole
prob no gems
molten grove
And didn’t do karma
vast oriole
no ancient accs
edgy mason
well the main issue is im missing gold income
vast oriole
no karma
edgy mason
huh?
vast oriole
gettign alts wont give you gold
edgy mason
i have ancients
vast oriole
it will give you gold later on
but not now, it will take gold that you need on your main
vast oriole
i have ancients
from gold shop? why your cp is so low then
rich verge
nono
vast oriole
nobody gets engravings at 1700...
rich verge
full leggo engraving is fine
molten grove
Karma is like 150k 5 l7 gems 100k accessory set another 100k, 40k for astrogem box with legendary selector, then bracelet
vast oriole
gettign 1600cp isnt hard at all
if you did advanced honing instead of normal honing
like i told you earlier
edgy mason
bro i was told to do that like 2 weeks ago when my levels was already at 18s xd
and i went from none to 20s
wihtin 2 weeks
rich verge
ok but u dont need 30AH to get 1600+ cp
molten grove
Adv hone gives more cp regular hone cheaper after ah is at 20
vast oriole
because of this
edgy mason
ok so probbaly my accessories need to be improved then
vast oriole
yes
did you or did you not buy the gold shop accessories?
actually just send your name
molten grove
Ur accessories should be single high at minimum
edgy mason
not yet no.
vast oriole
well there you go
edgy mason
kiwibbc
molten grove
Lmfao
vast oriole
yeaaaah
rich verge
approved name
molten grove
0-3 stone kek
rich verge
it literally does nothing for him
lavish mortar
accessories suck
stone sucks
gems suck
bracer is.... okay for now
rich verge
hes leaf he gets free boost in all raids for another month
edgy mason
for some reason i get more lucky on gems on my alts than main xd
vast oriole
this triggers me so bad
edgy mason
i bought over 20 gems
rich verge
by gems i think he means stone or
lavish mortar
those are stones
lavish mortar
you need to do some more horizontal for enlightenment points
molten grove
+24 pants from free taps?
vast oriole
+24 pants from free taps?
ah
vast oriole
i mean
what he could do is getting the lvl 7s from bound gold shop rn
since it gives more cp than accessories
its 20k per gems
edgy mason
there was no way to get any of them to level 30. so i just improved as much as i could from there 😄
molten grove
It just comes down to how much gold he’s got
It’s basically pointless until he had enough for everything
But aim is 1700 cp
rich verge
but it feeds into the issue that his gold income every week is very limited
because he has no alts to help farm gold
molten grove
Otherwise giga gatekept coz u have no title
vast oriole
there was no way to get any of them to level 30. so i just improved as much as i...
it would look better to have one piece ah+28 instead of this
rich verge
cus theyre stuck at fucking 1640
molten grove
It’s gonna be brutal
lavish mortar
1640 is a good spot for solo raids to farm gold tho
and half the gold he needs to spend is in the new gold shop anyways
molten grove
1660 is prolly better coz it’s so cheap to get to now
rich verge
1660 is 20k extra on 1640 a week per char
vast oriole
its not cheap for a new player that terribly needs to get better cp on main asap
lavish mortar
1660 is easy to get with paradise and a little time
vast oriole
yeah paradise like i said
edgy mason
i mean getting lvl 7 gems wont help me get into act 3 raid yet. im not looking into doing act 3 at all. im just arguing for if its good or not to go for 1660 /1680 alt one at a time for the act 1/2 instead of behemoth gold income .
vast oriole
use char bound gold on alts but thats it xd
molten grove
Issue for him is I don’t think he had enough gold for his main to be rdy so he could invest a little to get more per week
vast oriole
i mean getting lvl 7 gems wont help me get into act 3 raid yet. im not looking i...
no its not good
rich verge
i mean getting lvl 7 gems wont help me get into act 3 raid yet. im not looking i...
1680 definitely not, 1660 you have to weigh it imo. I personally never do thaemine on my rats so going from 1640>1660 is a literal full raid's worth of gold extra
drifting cairn
Is there a relic version of the T4 ancient + 3 accessory chest from the gold shop
edgy mason
let me do my calculation
molten grove
My alt at 1700 1.6k cp has full single highs lvl 7 gem x5 leap and enlightenment done mid bracelet
lavish mortar
Is there a relic version of the T4 ancient + 3 accessory chest from the gold sho...
nope
molten grove
So he’s gonna need a few hundred k
rich verge
but you have to realise honing 1640>1660 is like 100k gold per char so it's definitely an investment that will not pay off for atleast 1 month
thats assuming you have enough books etc to juice every tap
molten grove
1640 to 1660 depends on paradise and honing rng
minor briar
just free tap alts for a month to focus on main
rich verge
ye if you can paradise RNG some free taps and whatnot you're chilling
vast oriole
almost 300k gold AVERAGE
molten grove
Nah u special tap norm honing and only hone adv 0-10
molten grove
And for adv honing u scroll every tap if u have enough
vast oriole
a new player doesnt have that much scrolls
molten grove
If ur alt is like gimped on mats then don’t bother
rich verge
If ur alt is like gimped on mats then don’t bother
this is the real crux
vast oriole
like yall say the same ive been saying sicne 10 mins
use paradise mats for alts
and with time
molten grove
With funneling lvling alts is more efficient than main but this logic only applies if ur actually good at game
vast oriole
it snot about good at the game
molten grove
Coz a new player can’t just get into a lobby and play well so ur basically paying school fees
molten grove
Me for instance coz I know the raids I would do it differently coz I don’t need my main at high ilvl to learn raids etc
rich verge
Coz a new player can’t just get into a lobby and play well so ur basically payin...
Cus a new player just can't get into a lobby and play so well ur basically paying school fees fixed
cept mokoko event is on so its free boost lul
vast oriole
its not about needing high ilvl to learn raids
its about having an actual main char to push
molten grove
Coz the higher u get ur main the worse the efficiency is
Since each ilvl and cp is so much more exp
edgy mason
5200 from ivory tower
16 000 from overture HM
13 000 from behemoth
34200 gold x 4 chars = 136 800 gold
80 000 x 2 chars = 160 000 gold
averege of 300k a week from the raids
if i upgrade each alt to 1660 that would become an increase from 5200 to 24 000 around 19k gold per week extra.
edgy mason
how is it 200k?
vast oriole
watch the graphs i sent
rose wren
doesnt seem like #lost-ark-help anymore...
molten grove
Ideally if ur good at game u wanna be at the minimum cp to get into a party but not overly strong then spend rest on increasing alts to do higher ilvl raids to get more weekly income up to a point where u lose that efficiency which atm is 1680 imo
rich verge
im not sure that calc is fully updated btw
rich verge
it definitely didnt take me 200k to hone the DB to 1660
vast oriole
its with express that its bugged
vast oriole
yeah but you had probably lot of books
rich verge
he actually makes more gold than me with his alts because i cba doing t3
thats another thing
being forced to do all that for small payoff just feels awful
molten grove
Just do ur calculation like this
Tally up the gold cost
- 150k for karma
- 100k for gems
- 30k bracelet
- 100k accessories
- 40k for core selection with astrogem box
- +30 ah honing costs for wpn
vast oriole
well february will help since wont need gold anymore to upgrade XD
molten grove
That list should get u rdy for 1700
vast oriole
doesnt even need to be 100k accessories
can get cheaper accs in market if they have pheons
molten grove
At his 0 grid 0 title state accessories is a good method to gain cp
vast oriole
i made someone buy yesterday 2 rings for 5k each and a necklace for liek 7k
yes im talking about high nothing accs
edgy mason
i got 600 pheons ready. didnt wana spend any on acessories untill i know wtf i was doing. since when icame back i got overwhelmed by all new upgradings
molten grove
But yeah if u got pheons buy from market
edgy mason
but ye ill work on access for now. on after reset i will see the upgrade or not
molten grove
Definitely buy accessories from market if u got 600
vast oriole
let me log onto na
rich verge
arna the real homie
vast oriole
let me check prices of everything
rich verge
shes gonna get u some good accs
rich verge
i made someone buy yesterday 2 rings for 5k each and a necklace for liek 7k
i was there when this happened
edgy mason
thats going out your way. so nice
vast oriole
i think sorc wants crit dmg tho on rings
molten grove
What u do is buy accessories on main with pheons then cut free paradise accessories and transfer the bought ones to alt once u get a good paradise accessory
edgy mason
im doing crit yes.
vast oriole
yeah
edgy mason
i normally change to swiftness when i do party raids. and switch back to crit when im doing low ilvl solos raids.
molten grove
I bought 3 sets of accessories from market then transferred them to my 3 alts once the 3 got similar ones from para
edgy mason
on the ark passive
molten grove
After my 3 alts r done with them im dumping back onto market
vast oriole
i normally change to swiftness when i do party raids. and switch back to crit wh...
uhhhh
no
you need to always play crit
full crit
XD
do this
molten grove
i normally change to swiftness when i do party raids. and switch back to crit wh...
For reflux use the crit build not sw
vast oriole
get that one , its high main stat
molten grove
Reflux cycles so fast sw just makes u unable to move coz u need to spam so much nonstop = dps loss
edgy mason
i do 10-30 and 26 - 14 i switch between the 2 depending on the raid . for guardian raid i need the swiftness else i just die
molten grove
Nah go crit build
molten grove
Sw reflux is a trixion build
molten grove
If ur dying from going crit then ur just bad at game and need to improve not tweak build lol
shy chasm
Oh scorpion is easy unless they aren't doing the staggers
vast oriole
if its 26 crit 14 swift its okay
if its opposite, nOT OKAY
molten grove
I know Scorpio is annoying when ur not exp at it but my reflux is at 1400cp and full crit, its def a skill issue not build issue
vast oriole
also guardian raids gets nerfed af in feb patch
molten grove
And I do scorp with no sup 4 dps no pot
edgy mason
26 crit 14 swift ye
molten grove
Just dodge with ur X movement blink, get every just guard and learn his grab pattern
Don’t get grabbed
edgy mason
ok so 1290 to 1317 with that necklace
vast oriole
ok let me check earrings
rich verge
it dont seem like alot but if youre sitting at 1500cp instead of 1290 its gonna look alot nicer nj
for 7k its actually kinda gucci
vast oriole
ok earrings are a bit more pricey
its not too bad but in recent prices, you can get for cheaper
molten grove
At 1700ilvl ur gonna need 1700cp to get into a grp with like 20% succeeds rate
edgy mason
i got 78k gold to spare i got time
vast oriole
are you comfortable to check accessories from time to time in market to see if price go down
molten grove
At 1500cp ur entry into party is like 0.5% or less
edgy mason
ye just lemme know what im looking for 😄
molten grove
Esp coz u don’t have gold title
My 1750cp zerker alt with title is only getting in like 33% of the time
vast oriole
you can put the research crieteria here and save it there
molten grove
And my other alt at 1550cp is like taking 2 hrs to get pt
edgy mason
you should seen my CP 4 weeks ago. i was at 550, someoen told me i should be tripple that much during argeos raid and i got a heartattack
vast oriole
i would say this one is good to buy, very good main stat and can be traded later to alts 2 times
rich verge
My 1750cp zerker alt with title is only getting in like 33% of the time
he has leaf buff tho 
molten grove
he has leaf buff tho <:mokokoJuiced:1263003174718148618>
Leaf disappears at 1700ilvl so doesn’t count
vast oriole
it also disappears soon
molten grove
If u could keep leaf at 1700 then u can enter raid with just leaf
Even if u were 0 cp wont matter
edgy mason
ok 1332 cp now 🙂 its rising definitely
molten grove
That’s only if ur leap is done, otherwise prioritize release potential over unleash
vast oriole
yes but you go instant spell 2
vast oriole
ok maybe uwuowo isnt updated
edgy mason
im just missing that last 1 on frost mastery
vast oriole
molten grove
im just missing that last 1 on frost mastery
Yep that’s alot of cp and very expensive
vast oriole
for the second ring, i dont like that the others only have 1 trade left
so you can check
i like the fact that its pretty high main stat
thats what i check a lot
if you want to know what are high or low main stat
this one is crit rate, wont hurt you and you will still gain cp, since you have lot of pheons
since you said you like to go a bit more swift
could be nice option for you
molten grove
Just don’t go swift, it’s terrible for reflux, ur X is ur mobility, should not need swift ontop
vast oriole
its not about mobility but cdr and atk speed
molten grove
Reflux had dog base crit and crit dmg so it’s perfect to stack crit and cd on, had low cool downs so dont need more swift to make short cool downs shorter coz u wont be able to move ul just be casting 24/7 to actually have swift usable for dmg
Trust it’s dog for dps
vast oriole
on the old nexus guide, at some point there was option to have a bit more swift
molten grove
That’s for trixion when u can stand still and cast non stop
vast oriole
no they dont put guides for trixion only
edgy mason
the one last earring not replaced yet is not that bad i think
molten grove
Ul find out urself when u play the reflux
edgy mason
but im down to upgrade it still
dim pulsar
Ul find out urself when u play the reflux
thats why u calculate ur CR
no need to be 105% cr
hollow onyx
what is the easiest adventure tome to complete because i want to get the skill point
dim pulsar
- u farm some stuff or have to buy from market tho (collectibles)
dim pulsar
thought they already gave u (almost) everything up to rohendel tho ye
80% of it
doesnt include all stuff
rose wren
thought they already gave u (almost) everything up to rohendel tho ye
punika*
rich verge
na
i dont count feiton and yorn cus its gonna take u longer to do the rest of what ur missing than anything else
vast oriole
the one last earring not replaced yet is not that bad i think
already way better, do you have crit or swift pet
molten grove
thats why u calculate ur CR <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
Pretty safe on reflux since nothing in her kit gives her any innate crit buff and no back attk bonus either hence y crit and cd is so good on reflux
edgy mason
i think crit but i dunno havent changed it for like 2 years xd
tropic arch
anyone know why in act i get insta tap after 60x
dim pulsar
act1? stagger check
tropic arch
act2
dim pulsar
g1/g2?
tropic arch
g1
edgy mason
oh lol why do i even have htis hshhahahah
edgy mason
wait the pet bonus are all just +160 xd
dim pulsar
yep, all set in stone
rose wren
yep they adjusted it
edgy mason
i did some upgrade training in the stronghold but i have no idea what im upgrading they all seem pointless imo
rich verge
only thar gives actual stuff
rose wren
only piece is gaining the slight dmg increase from pet ranch
molten grove
It’s so dumb that the mechs between solo and nm differ way to teach new players the wrong mech then they go into nm and grief pt coz got taught the wrong thing
rose wren
sending dispatchs=adventures seals=cards whiles trying for bloodclaw from dispatch missions
edgy mason
i like the way they did it in the brelshaza raid where its the same mech just have bots doing the remaining areas.
rose wren
adventures seals could be used for training pet ranch aswell
edgy mason
they could have done it the same for the solo modes
dim pulsar
its HARD to do bots (it might be ue3 problems or just they dont want to do it that way)
vast oriole
oh lol why do i even have htis hshhahahah
make it crit and it will be better xDD
opal merlin
Not sure if this is the right channel to ask this graphic-related question in, but I'd like to ask how does an i5-12400 w/ RTX 3060 fare with Lost Ark? I'm assuming it should be at least 60 but i'm only getting 40fps in town(the town after you use the 1640 power pass) and in fights it goes lower
dim pulsar
easy 60-80 fps for 1080p
vast oriole
Not sure if this is the right channel to ask this graphic-related question in, b...
the game is optimized like ass, its mostly cpu bound
idk whats your cpu, im dumb as shit
dim pulsar
but IF SHIT cpu (12400 isnt great) its gonna be WAY less
edgy mason
interesting
opal merlin
Aahh it's a cpu intensive. Gotcha
vast oriole
yep
opal merlin
Yeah that might be due to my 12400
vast oriole
(ue3 and eac are deadly for pc btw)
rose wren
Not sure if this is the right channel to ask this graphic-related question in, b...
if the code isnt a pile of spaghetti, ull reach insane frames
opal merlin
Okay good to know hahaha I thought there was smth wrong with my gpu or w/e
vast oriole
(i have around the same fps as you with a 1070 btw, so yeah XD)
dim pulsar
ue3 is fine itself, the fact we have it WITH EAC (it uses 20-30% of whole resources in game)
vast oriole
i would play aroudn the graphic settings
makes sure you dont have all pets showing
etc etc
dim pulsar
make ur gpu work more (settings to high)
opal merlin
Alright will check on it
opal merlin
make ur gpu work more (settings to high)
Are the in-game settings dependent on the GPU?
vast oriole
remove those shits
opal merlin
I set them all to low cause I thought that was causing the low fps
dim pulsar
Are the in-game settings dependent on the GPU?
lower settings = less gpu in usage and More stress on cpu
vast oriole
i have more fps in full high than full low
tropic arch
damn finally did act2
rose wren
supposedly its better to set power manager in the gpu app to max instead of it letting it decide, people get frame drop from cutscene switch
vast oriole
i still dont understand the logic
dim pulsar
i have more fps in full high than full low
ur cpu isnt great also sooo
vast oriole
ur cpu isnt great also sooo
yeah but my gpu too xD
edgy mason
1375,78 CP using pet for crit, 1375,78 with swiftness pett. i turn it to endurance pet and it becomes 1338 cp for some reason. dunno why swift and crit is same cp
dim pulsar
yeah but my gpu too xD
damn 1070 is still GREAT gpu
vast oriole
1375,78 CP using pet for crit, 1375,78 with swiftness pett. i turn it to endura...
because cp is fake sometimes XD
vast oriole
damn 1070 is still GREAT gpu
yeah thats why i bought it, iw anted the 1080ti but it was way too expensive for my budget xdd
opal merlin
lower settings = less gpu in usage and More stress on cpu
Never thought of that and never would've figured that out haha i'm not very techy. Thank you for this
vast oriole
(and i also dont have the power supply for it)
dim pulsar
yeah thats why i bought it, iw anted the 1080ti but it was way too expensive for...
meh 1080ti is great but it takes WAY too much power
opal merlin
supposedly its better to set power manager in the gpu app to max instead of it l...
I think I set mine at prefer maximum performance with the nvidia control panel- if that's what you're talking about?
vast oriole
yeah
rose wren
its wild how much 1080 series require so much power than nowadays
dim pulsar
I think I set mine at prefer maximum performance with the nvidia control panel- ...
no
set it like here
rich verge
how does it make sense that making your gpu work more will throttle the CPU less XD?
vast oriole
personally i have like this
edgy mason
but ye arna thanks for personally looking for the access for me and all for this great convo. thats almost 1400 cp now. 😄 now i continue my alt raids.
vast oriole
but ye arna thanks for personally looking for the access for me and all for this...
no worries!
i did it because i was bored haha
opal merlin
Gotcha. How about that "Real-Time optimization"? Should I leave it at middle or lean a bit more into prio quality?
dim pulsar
how does it make sense that making your gpu work more will throttle the CPU less...
it does lower textures quality = gpu work "less" and u gotta compute that frames with cpu to output it with logic of game
vast oriole
idk if the real-time optim do anything
edgy mason
i been talking about and upgrading char for 2-3 hours now so xd
dim pulsar
Gotcha. How about that "Real-Time optimization"? Should I leave it at middle or...
its "yes" and "no" it works and doesnt work sometimes
vast oriole
also close your game from time to time, it helps my pc
dim pulsar
it was like real time dlss but meh its more like "fake"
vast oriole
when i see my frame being lower than usual, i just close and reopen
rich verge
it does <:Weirdga:905213052276862986> lower textures quality = gpu work "less" a...
surely the computing of frames will happen regardless of what the GPU is doing, just that the GPU needs to work harder to render stuff ?
dim pulsar
also close your game from time to time, it helps my pc
yeah mostly cuz memory leaks
rose wren
really sucks i missed my chance to get a decent pc setup
rich verge
also close your game from time to time, it helps my pc
actually didnt know this 
mine stays open all the time cus it takes 5 mins to re-open hah
dim pulsar
surely the computing of frames will happen regardless of what the GPU is doing, ...
ue3 games are cpu bound mostly, more stress on gpu makes it to "get" more work on gpu then ur gpu doesnt wait for CPU job to be done
vast oriole
actually didnt know this <:pepolaughingcry:1307904984402104390> mine stays open...
well i guess it depends your pc ?
but when i raid on weekly reset, i spend like 10hrs in game
so im starting to see fps drops XD
dim pulsar
oh right, we get dlss in feb right ?
we should get it 
vast oriole
again, my pc isnt great at all
dim pulsar
again, my pc isnt great at all
still better than some of pc's here
edgy mason
it depends what raids you do. i can spend 20 hours doin legion raids. i join 1 single raid in act 1 and my pc goes to heaven
vast oriole
we should get it <:Susge:1065387133990355014>
you think a ryzen 5 5600 for 160$cad is worth ?
dim pulsar
meh, how much is 7 5700x?
vast oriole
meh, how much is 7 5700x?
almost 300$
vast oriole
yeah the diff in price isnt XD
rose wren
x series better worth, see what 5600x
vast oriole
x series better worth, see what 5600x
220$
dim pulsar
x series better worth, see what 5600x
not in r5 5600
vast oriole
i checked that first
dim pulsar
u can just oc it and its 5600x basicly
rose wren
o thought u cant on non
vast oriole
btw 160$cad is 115$us
dim pulsar
btw 160$cad is 115$us
its worth then
vast oriole
i was thinking about it maybe
because even if i start working, buying pc parts rn is a no-no
dim pulsar
remember to update bios before new cpu tho
vast oriole
yeah i would need to find the verison of my bios for that
rose wren
i get stuck at finding the correct/useful mobo
dim pulsar
u can use any AM4 mobo (maybe not the CHEAPEST possible) and ur fine
rich verge
does this game have an fps tracker?
rose wren
every game on steam, use steam counter
dim pulsar
rose jewel
eww
rose wren
oh yeah steam added more extras infos
dim pulsar
oh yeah steam added more extras infos
only if u want
molten grove
I was gonna upgrade my pc but my current pc is alrdy more than good enough for LA
vast oriole
yeah my pc is okayish for loa
rose wren
just 1game...
vast oriole
its just annoying the freezes sometimes
dim pulsar
its just annoying the freezes sometimes
i have freezes too, on a fucking 2500$ pc
SHIT UE3
livid fossil
So in g2 Brel after the last mech which is the x pattern I die to big explosion
rose jewel
videos dude, videos
rich verge
memorizer92 stay gigachad
rose jewel
we can exactly tell you how to avoid whatever youre doing or not doing if we get video footage
vast oriole
im not
rich verge
come banana farm on elpon
dim pulsar
rich verge
vast oriole
its not that cold
vast oriole
come banana farm on elpon <:UwU:922621420163448913>
i play gienah, sucks for you
dim pulsar
its not that cold
rich verge
it actually sucks that you cant server transfer
livid fossil
Why what are you missing ?
rich verge
i come from wow where guilds actually mean smth
livid fossil
Wrong game
dim pulsar
i come from wow where guilds actually mean smth
here we have ds's communitys
and WoW is huge game
rich verge
coping that the only reason my guilds dont do anything together is cus im in elpon 
livid fossil
Yeah go join discord
vast oriole
it depends the guild
my guild plays together
but like most people that wanted to do horizontal are done with it since ages so XD
rich verge
pug stuff rando stuff w/e
vast oriole
time to get another guild
vast oriole
whats your ilvl ?
rich verge
1705 on main currently
vast oriole
#eu-central-guild-recruitment message you could try dming that dude
idk if they still search people
some guilds (like this one), accept people that plays other servers
so can still try some other ones
rich verge
i was actually looking at that channel every so often but noticed elpon adds were very sparce 💀 didnt scroll back to october but will definitely give both suggestions a go
vast oriole
try to check other servers aswell
sometimes you can try to see if they can accept you in their discord
vast oriole
i just did that, i didnt go up till october XD
vast oriole
ohyeah
xD
sometimes its just a community
i see deniz also have an announce for his
can always join his discor,d im sure he wouldnt mind doing parties with you in them
rich verge
sometimes its just a community
but yeah i was actually just looking at this from the wrong perspective
guild is just so baked in from playing wow for 20 years
edgy mason
i used to be in guild long ago. now i just use it to farm cubes
rich verge
i literally would not play the game if i didn't have my guild or was forced to look for another
known those peeps for almost 10 years XD
vast oriole
you cant really compare wow to a mmo that has like 3k players per region
rich verge
i dont care about the rest only my 30~ odd guildies kekw
vast oriole
also wow is a very old game
rich verge
pop size is not relevant here really
vast oriole
so i guess mentality changed
most people just use discord
i was using mumble and teamspeak back then with my guild on aion
XD
rich verge
ts3 was the shit
dim pulsar
well, if ur guildie is 99% vets they 100% did most of ignea tokens already soo
vast oriole
(i still hate writing ingame, i dont mind on discord byt idk i have an issue)
edgy mason
in my guild we used to split up our mains to help others alts and new players in our guild:) sadly the leader and his gf went play other things . never been fan of going into another community just do publics
livid fossil
Back in my days we used yahoo chats
plain adder
what ilvl is hyper awakening?
dim pulsar
banana is fine, oysters is trash
dim pulsar
what ilvl is hyper awakening?
1540?
vast oriole
what ilvl is hyper awakening?
1540 lvl 55
rich verge
1640
livid fossil
If ain’t dropping go do something else I use to just do different day
plain adder
oh i meant t skill actually sorry.
vast oriole
months ago
vast oriole
oh i meant t skill actually sorry.
same answer
rich verge
huh
vast oriole
hyper awakening quest gives T skill
rich verge
i couldnt do hyper awakening quest till 1640 on my alts and this is end november/start of dec
plain adder
ah whats it called hmm
vast oriole
i couldnt do hyper awakening quest till 1640 on my alts and this is end november...
it was bugged at some point
edgy mason
nearest area to start quest is in north vern near the home teleport
livid fossil
Same here
rich verge
sg trolling me hard as fuck
vast oriole
smilegate is always bugging patches
split kayak
your client bugged
edgy mason
try going to trixion might fix it then
rich verge
like the only reason i pumped my sorc from 1600-1640 was to see if the hyper and t skill made the class more fun
vast oriole
F
rich verge
plain adder
does the quest have a name
vast oriole
its a purple quest
half wraith
yo bard pet should be swift or spec?
vast oriole
yo bard pet should be swift or spec?
swift
plain adder
1611
vast oriole
ok so
vast oriole
go elnead
plain adder
i dont think i can yet
rose jewel
you dont need to be in elnead
rich verge
its in every capital
rose jewel
how can you get it at 1540 if you cant go to elnead
its on every major continent
or at least t3+ ones
vast oriole
yes but idk where it is in other continent XD
vast oriole
thats why i asked for elnead
vast oriole
dont
split kayak
half wraith
swift
and the other pet stat is there any preference? (the more hp pyshic df magic df ...)
lavish mortar
and the other pet stat is there any preference? (the more hp pyshic df magic df ...
More vit
rose jewel
hp always
dim pulsar
and the other pet stat is there any preference? (the more hp pyshic df magic df ...
u pick hp
vast oriole
and the other pet stat is there any preference? (the more hp pyshic df magic df ...
hp, supp shield scales off your max hp
plain adder
ok ty i jsutr wernt to elnead f
rose jewel
you dont even pick hp, its on by default
half wraith
ty guys
plain adder
my 3rd main is 1560 but i feel like its not even worth playing that char at this point
half wraith
and on pet hability i was chosing the one i got with the mp restoration thats the best right?
vast oriole
and on pet hability i was chosing the one i got with the mp restoration thats th...
doesnt matter
its giga shit proc rate
and giga long icd
half wraith
doesnt matter
well u never know
vast oriole
i do know
actually
the proc rate is abysmal
and cd is more than 3mins
its dogshit
half wraith
but it may proc just the moment u are out of mana to shield and the attack kill a teammate
half wraith
vast oriole
like unless you ahve a pet summoner
you will be oom constantly, needing to use mana food all the time
(and yes i know, i played bard since ru release)
(today my pet summoner got dced in a raid and i was oom all the time, i was crying)
lucid axle
is it just me or is mordum hard to find party on ilvl?
half wraith
ty god im a floor enjoyer and i can restore pacefully mp on it XD
astral root
Mordum HM is weirdly gatekeepy
lucid axle
like i finally found a party full of 1700
and weve waited maybe like 15min so far for 1 more support
lucid axle
depends your cp
1768 for me
dim pulsar
yikes
lucid axle
party is 1600-2000 CP
lavish mortar
There are lots of people 2kCP++ doing mordum hm
vast oriole
^
lavish mortar
Since that's still top 3 earner raids for main
paper walrus
is it just me or is mordum hard to find party on ilvl?
mordum hm is still a top 3 raid so it isnt hard to find vetter built characters
vast oriole
with ark grid, lot of people got their cp inflated
it should go back to normal when serca will release
lucid axle
finally it filled
vast oriole
mordum hm wont be in top 3 raids anymore
lucid axle
well yeah im not expecting to find one crazy fast
but i think gatekeeping + waiting for party to fill
took an hour
rich verge
did my first mordum hard this week and its a relatively big step up even being comfy on normal so i can understand gatekeep a lil bit XD
hate g2 with all my soul
lucid axle
ppl with 2k CP on ilvl are usually full books
lucid axle
do ppl really expect you to be full books
dim pulsar
ppl with 2k CP on ilvl are usually full books
no, just good gems
rose jewel
as you do mordum over and over you will learn to hate g1 more
dim pulsar
do ppl really expect you to be full books <:Weirdga:905213052276862986>
almost NONE books
rich verge
thaemine is more than fine for me personally
lavish mortar
ppl with 2k CP on ilvl are usually full books
Or gems
Or lucky ark grid
rich verge
naitreya is just a cunt
dim pulsar
but lvl8s and 2 9s
vast oriole
i hate whole act 3 personally
g1 is boring dogshit
g2 is a bit less annoyign since they nerfed the stacks
paper walrus
g1 is boring
g2 i can counter farm and i dont get parasite so im chill
g3 giga chill
vast oriole
g3 is annoying mf that turns around constantly because everyone for fuckass reason likes to dps in the back
rich verge
im gonna get sick of it eventually but atm g3 is actually good fun for me
lavish mortar
I live to make boss spin
vast oriole
<:wahoo:1288727601032204288> I live to make boss spin
i hate you
and all valkyrie dps
lavish mortar
i hate you
Hey I main slayer
rich verge
its kinda weird that reaper X doesn't let you port behind mordum before any platform is broken
lavish mortar
I play front on my valk (unless bard/artist supp)
vast oriole
na
i have valks
because they always go away
to x
when its fukcing push immune
i hate them
lavish mortar
I walk into the circle to x
lavish mortar
Same with sorc tho ik what you mean
vast oriole
for me, it was 1%
split kayak
alrd 3w
vast oriole
for some, it was 100%
vast oriole
i think i got it at the start of 3rd week
dim pulsar
but i got it fast
dim pulsar
10am sending, 4pm sending, 10pm sending again
rich verge
do u have the bottles one
dim pulsar
we all have
lucid axle
idk the mordums been out for so long and its even been nerfed i dont get the gatekeep 
rich verge
u can spent ur high seas coins and get nothing so then u dont care so much about dispatch taking long time
dim pulsar
it was GIGA quick
lucid axle
almost NONE books
full 8s?
vast oriole
idk the mordums been out for so long and its even been nerfed i dont get the gat...
because better applicants apply
split kayak
do u have the bottles one
only left dispatch and cube
vast oriole
thats all
split kayak
vast oriole
or they want better applicants
lucid axle
oh wait i forgot u have 6 artis lol
rich verge
assuming relevant factors are the same
vast oriole
exactly
lucid axle
i have act 4 title 3-4 week
lavish mortar
i have act 4 title 3-4 week
Thats not kazeros title
vast oriole
yes but you have low cp
lavish mortar
dim pulsar
act4 =/= act3
dim pulsar
and act4 is WAY WAY WAY easier
rich verge
i have sea wanderer and i dont get gatekept ngl
vast oriole
act4 3-4 title is kinda sus tho
rich verge
they know im here to pump
lavish mortar
I put random shit like chaos turtle on my main
plain adder
i cant auto dismantle ancient..?
dim pulsar
plain adder
so u cant and it only auto dismantles relic?
dim pulsar
u can, its based on ark points
plain adder
o i see
vast oriole
unless youre a lucksack
dim pulsar
i should cut, but meh 1200g and scrappies? its too much
rich verge
i took like 1680s today in aegir hm
huge appreciation to the unsung heroes who invite my 1640 rats to behemoth so i can make my 13k gold 
plain adder
idk what char or new char/class i want to use power pass on in feburary hmm
lavish mortar
huge appreciation to the unsung heroes who invite my 1640 rats to behemoth so i ...
In behe I kust take the first 15-friends applicants
plain adder
are these grwoth quests thats like do chaos dungeon/guardian raid worth it..
dim pulsar
yes
lavish mortar
are these grwoth quests thats like do chaos dungeon/guardian raid worth it..
Only if you like free stuff
vast oriole
you dont need to kill guardian btw, you can just enter and it will validate the quest
tho theres a guardian event starting wednesday and you want to do it
split kayak
skolakia hell
cancer mf
btw what's the site to calc whether to sell life skill mats or craft then sell?
rose jewel
skolo is chill
assuming youre the dps
if youre the sup and have 3 headless chickens gl
lucid axle
yes but you have low cp
it really isnt that low
but yeah ofc theres gonna be more higher CP just didnt expect to be gatekept this hard halfway through the week
vast oriole
yes but
dont forget
not only 1700ilvl are doing mordum
like i said its still top raid
even for way higher cp
lucid axle
im getting gatekept by 1700 ilvl parties
im not every trying to apply to the 1720-1730 ones
vast oriole
yes because again, they want better applicants
1700ilvl wants the most the better applicants
while the 1730 lobbies dont give a fuck
lucid axle
idk i just had a lot easier time finding parties with my other characters with around the same CP earlier in the week
which is why i got confused why it took so long tdy
pretty much no wait
vast oriole
Well its also end of the week xD
rich verge
I like applying when there's 1 or 2 higher Ilvl people cus they can make up the damage while I focus on not being executed on mechanics like a dog in the street
Does that make me bad maybe but I will return the favour eventually
lucid axle
Well its also end of the week xD
ive experienced heavy gatekeeping both end and start of week so i really never know now
unique fox
I ended up doing some color options for the fight to help me see the mechanics. I held hyper and that ended up helping me a lot.
half wraith
how the bracelet box from the growth shop works?
lavish mortar
how the bracelet box from the growth shop works?
You get 3 nearly identical bracers
One with crit/swift + weapon stuff
Another with crit/spec, and a third with swift/spec
half wraith
its random or which is which
split kayak
unlocked pet ability is active all the time even when not equipping the pet?
rose jewel
yes
rose jewel
in the past you had to pick 3 of every category
they changed it to a perma boost regardless of summoned pet and you can have them all
ofc you need a lot of pets
bold geyser
just a few more ðŸ˜
rose jewel
so focus on the good ones first unless you have a lot of pets, then just collect them all
jagged hazel
Can anyone help. I used to be able to play the game, from the UK and play on Central Europe servers. However, I moved to Japan and now it says the server is "closed". Is there anything I can do?
lucid axle
vpn i think
marsh grove
Can anyone help. I used to be able to play the game, from the UK and play on Cen...
you can play on NA without vpn
not sure about EU restrictions
jagged hazel
So I'd have to throw away my character and start again?
marsh grove
well there might be some workaround
to play on EU
keep trying out some stuff
ping to EU is horrible btw
from japan
jagged hazel
If it let me keep my character and all the progress/money it would be worth it.
tender flicker
How much progression are we talking?
marsh grove
yeah either way I'm sorry to hear that
try out a vpn or ping reducing services
might be playable on EU
jagged hazel
How much progression are we talking?
Can't remember exactly as it's been about 2 years, but it was all thr story content that there was at the time. Took a break to wait for new stuff and...
marsh grove
do you remember the char name?
current powerpass completely skips all main story
and puts u at 1640
idk if you'd show up on uwu player search
tender flicker
Powerpass + arkesia tour gives a good chunk of progression if its been 2 years
paper walrus
we are way past the story content from 2 years ago
tender flicker
Unless you were a heavy horizontal enjoyer
jagged hazel
Would rather continue from where I was. I liked playing the story. Don't wanna skip. Or collect all the makeup seeds etc again.
lucid axle
u remember how long you played for?
because doesnt hurt to restart if you were still running through the story
did u start doing chaos dungeons?
jagged hazel
Restarting would be a couple hundred of hours.
rose jewel
if he wants to play his original roster and watch the story just let him
i dont think japan is a region supported on the west release so you may be forced to use a vpn, thats about it
jagged hazel
Ok, thank you. I'll try a vpn
marsh grove
if he wants to play his original roster and watch the story just let him
I mean I don't fully understand the inner workings but
idk why there'd be a difference
in needing a VPN between regions
if its all managed by the same client
makes me think its something else with his settings or ISP or something
rose jewel
some regions are not legally supported because whatever reason
so if their ip is from X region that is not supported, they won't ever be able to connect
marsh grove
but I'm saying you don't need a VPN to play on NA from japan
rose jewel
if he already had the game on the list then he can open it
marsh grove
so why would you need one to play on EU
rose jewel
doesnt mean he will be able to get into the game
are you sure
are you living in japan
marsh grove
yes
rose jewel
do you know someone who is
well fuck then, its his isp or one of the many stupid reasons
with one or two stupid fixes
marsh grove
cause I understand what you're saying, I've heard of some countries that are actually just like
straight up blocked
split kayak
ye my country straight up region blocked by steam 
lucid axle
if he wants to play his original roster and watch the story just let him
well yeah thats what i was trying to recommend them to do and just create a new character for when they want to use the pass
split kayak
but can bypass it by using non-blocked region steam account
tho some isp still blocked too resulting in "closed" region even with the said bypass
so maybe it's isp
rose jewel
since jp had its own region not too long ago* i quite literally assumed (due to how sg treats regions) that it was automatically booted
marsh grove
I played back in 2022 and didnt think that JP had its own region then
how long ago did it have its own region?
tender flicker
shut down close to 2 years ago
hearty kraken
should I bother doing the old legion commanders solo just for the cards?
marsh grove
what are the best stronghold effects?
apparently great success scaling is garbage so
whatever maxes out crafting cost reduction
and the snowblower thing if you have it (I dont)
tender flicker
yep
rose jewel
i woulda stay with the archdemon since its legendary, he already has epic add dmg
but
also there are not a whole lot of archdemons out there
unique fox
Yeah but there's no avoiding that. US is far, too.
Play on Korea?
Or do they require an address or something?
timber mauve
Or do they require an address or something?
Playing on kr requires a Korean phone number to make an account.
A Korean phone number is linked to your Korean ssn.
unique fox
dang
ancient abyss
marsh grove
also there are not a whole lot of archdemons out there
kazeros is archdemon on some (one?) of his gates